All Things Transformers

Transformers: Age of Extinction Review

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About this Episode

A deep dive into the 2014 live-action film, discussing the plot, character arcs, and the use of Transformium. The conversation covers the Dinobots, the return of Galvatron, and the film's place in the larger Transformers cinematic series. The episode also includes a segment on the latest toy news, including upcoming retro reissues and potential future releases.

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it's a sound hound that used to be a that used

to be a John Goodman hound Well, yeah, I know,

but Sounddown used to be a music service, and

I don't think they're around anymore. No, they're

still around. I have the app on my phone. Oh,

jeez. It works. I am not a voice actor, folks.

I just want to preface that. I have no training.

I have no nothing. So if this sucks, it's all

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is age of extinction I'm Steve Megatron and joining

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that sucked. Well, this is TFT1 Mike. No, I meant

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So, Transformers, Age of Extinction was the final

Transformers live action film. that I saw in

theaters. It's the one that broke me in 2014.

2014. Oh, God, it's been nine years since that

movie was in theaters. What's sad is it's still

aged better than a lot of the modern Marvel stuff.

Yeah, I don't want to get into that. I'm just

saying. Hey, look, I've made my my Opinions known

about that once you call your thing endgame it

ends You know Hawkeye was cool. Hawkeye was fun.

The rest of it phase four is a flop At least

in my personal opinion So right off the bat here

with the plot of this movie I start kind of sorta

started a thread on Twitter for this film I didn't

really but I kind of sorta did and so it begins

Only two films away from finishing The Winter

of Bayhem. And then I added, I've just finished

the film. Other than the mindless destruction,

is there no real plot to this? Galvatron slash

Megatron, whatever, same guy, he doesn't do anything.

He doesn't have a plan. He's not trying to bring

Cybertron to Earth. He's not trying to build

a solar needle. Again, other than mindless destruction,

the... Age different and the age difference between

lucky the leprechaun and Kate's daughter Having

the Dinobot show up. There really is no plot

to this movie There is there are no stakes and

stakes is spelled like the food or stakes spelled

like the actual wooden thing Am I missing something

here? And that's what I came away with after

watching this movie is am I missing something

other than apparently you did because I I totally

saw it like okay The government in this one is

bad. Yes. I mean, that's like life. But they

were two years early. Yeah. So. So the interesting

part. Is that this this whole film, like basically

people have created their own transformers, created

Transformium. It's stupid name. where they become

pixelated bits that don't die, unless you stab

them in the head when they're in solid form.

So what it boils down to is they have all of

the parts left over from the last battle with

Shia's character. They've apprehended all the

Decepticons. They have Megatron's head, again,

Stupid reverse engineering, you know, you throw

it in the Laurentian abyss again like don't yeah

or incinerate it something But as usual stupid

rules and The government is is using this cover

to take out the Autobots claiming that they're

hunting down Decepticons to not have this front

and They Start off by murdering ratchet Which

is why you find out prime is you know in? damaged

mode and Found by Cade which I didn't mind Cade

in this one right, but I'll get to that after

so the the main plot per se This is the greatest

advance in modern physics since the splitting

of the atom. A rare metal. Molecularly unstable.

It's what they're made of. Bring it up! All the

way! You guys have never seen a truck like this

before? Dad, you can't keep spending money on

junk. I don't think it's a truck at all. I think

we just found a transformer. Dad! I'm gonna ask

you this once. Where is Optimus Prime? After

all we have done, humans are hunting us. But

I fear we are all targets now. What is that?

Who sent you here? Help me! Help me! This is

not war. It's human extinction. must be sacrificed.

We gotta have faith, Prime. Maybe not in who

we are. But we can be. I'm not leaving my dad.

We need a new army. Lockdown is trying to get

prime. He wants him for his trophy case. That's

the gist of the main movie. But in return, he's

going to give them this Cybertron seed, which

will create all of the Cybertronium that they

could ever need by terraforming an area of the

Earth. And so as they're hunting the Autobots

and as they're reverse engineering, using them

for parts and his 50 army, drone army and then

What they're not realizing is Megatron is influencing

the Galvatron model Yeah, and giving it a lot

of his looks a lot of his persona like he's slowly

infecting everything He's slowly running the

machinations behind it And it's if it's like

as if you know the same guy. Yeah Just without

a spark Which is why there's the hole in the

chest so he can't be stabbed there again, but

but No, and it's and it's interesting cuz prime,

you know comes to that realization I thought

it was a little too busy with everything going

on between the you know lockdown the quintesson

thing and then the You know Galvatron going but

Galvatron was more or less. He was trying to

have his own rebirth Yeah, it wasn't that there

was mindless destruction and he knew the seed

was coming into play which is what he wanted

to terraform part of the earth and rule it and

so That is the main part of the plot. That's

he's running behind the scenes While lockdowns

trying to get prime for his trophy case to take

back to the quintessence So that's and they don't

actually call them the quintessence. They call

them the creators, but we all know Oh, yes, obviously,

but there's there's Tessa But so anyways, that's

the main part of the plot. Galvatron is running

the thing behind the scenes. It's not it's not

that. There's anything really else per se going

on. The humans think they're running the show,

but it's, you know, Cade and a lot of the other

ones have figured out Galvatron's been playing

them the whole time to get a new body, to build

a new army, to, you know, and then he, of course,

takes over everything. And, you know, he wants

the seed, the humans want the seed, lockdown

wants prime, the humans want prime. Seeds of

the future. Yep. So, I did like Cade. Very likeable

character. I like Mark Wahlberg anyway, so it

wasn't that big of a stretch to see him play

the action role when he needed to, but also play

the kind of like goofy, nerdy... You know dad

character that's like, oh look at this. I created

this. You know, this is cool. Yeah, uh So it

didn't bother me when he did that I didn't like

the race car boyfriend. I didn't like the daughter

like both of those were totally unneeded characters

in my opinion, but it was they were they were

more needed than Like sam's parents or or like

lucas, yeah, thankfully bit it early. Yeah And

for half of a second, again, folks, I haven't

seen this movie since I saw it in theaters in

2014. I thought, and I'm sorry, I apologize to

this actor, but I thought that was Jason Lee.

I thought that was Brody from, I'm like, wait,

that's not, no, it's TJ, whatever his name is.

TJ Miller. Yeah. Yeah. He was in Deadpool one

and two. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just, I was glad

that he was gone early. Yup, me too. Yeah, okay,

so we have a plot, alright, yeah. I don't know,

it just... Half of the scenes that were not the

three stooges, Cade and his daughter and her

boyfriend, and I'm not saying that is a bad thing,

but I'm saying like those were the three stooges,

three amigos, whatever you want to call it. Anything

that wasn't them that was just the robots half

of it seemed like Like I said mindless violence

to me and I don't have a problem with mindless

violence in general It just it seemed like this

one was over the top a little bit over the top

more so than the other three to that point in

2014 and then you have this new way of Having

them transform, which is fine. Create a technology.

Have them do a certain thing. Have them move

a certain way. And whatever. If it makes sense

for the plot, it makes sense for the plot. You're

right. The name is fucking dumb. It just is.

It transformium? Well, it's like Avatar. Unobtanium.

Oh, God. Don't even... I mean, to me, it was

that stupid. And I was like, man, come on. You

guys... You're dealing with the lore here like

you could at least make it sound more intelligent

Yeah, you could at least you know pull some sort

of Cybertronian relic out of your ass or go through

all 98 episodes of of g1 or go through all 52

episodes of piecework like go through something

and just pull some like you know The the proto

humans like it was you know Lever and pulley

or some like something like do something don't

just That's the problem when you try to make

up new shit with existing shit. It doesn't always

work so well Yep I Remember Thinking I heard

Galvatron's voice more than what we actually

hear it and then he talks And it is Frank Welker

and that's great. But when I watched this today,

literally like I, you and I both just finished

this literally minutes before we hit record.

And he doesn't talk as much as I thought he did.

And I don't hear his voice as much as I remember

hearing it. Well, I think he talks in the second

one as well. But the thing that I was still glad.

I mean, we got the Transformers Prime version

of Megatron's voice here. Yeah. Which I was totally

fine with, didn't I? Yeah, no, absolutely. But

at the same time, I was kind of like, come on.

I was hoping that we would get something more

intuitive. Yeah. I you know what I know this

is gonna be a take that most people won't agree

with me on but I was kind of hoping for season

3 crazy Galvatron voice again from Welker like

that would have been awesome. Yeah, that would

have been great something less dark. Yeah Well,

I can say is yeah, whatever it is that he goes

to shoot the camera my favorite character out

of the whole film is easily Chuck Goodman as

Hound. He steals the show. Oh, yeah, totally.

He just absolutely steals the show. What about

you? Any favorite characters or character moments?

I mean, I love any time Hound shows up for real,

but I was glad to see Bumblebee more of a footnote.

Yeah. I didn't like the one Autobot that was

kind of uppity. Was that the green one? Yeah,

I can't remember his name. Crosshairs? Yeah,

he just bothered me. I definitely liked Hound.

I liked Prime. He says, I don't normally kill

humans, but this human is going to die, you know,

and just. And he blew away Kelsey Grammer, but

that dude kind of deserved it. I like Crosshairs'

voice, because it's John DiMaggio, because it's

a cool voice done by John DiMaggio. Yeah, and

I'm fine with that. I just didn't like the character.

Yeah. I was sad that they killed off Ratchet.

Yep. They got no medic. Nope. I loved the scene

where Prime shed his busted -up armor. Oh, yes.

and skin after he'd healed enough and reformatted.

So I was like, okay, that's cool. Even though

I didn't like the truck that he turns back into.

I didn't like his robot mode. The robot mode

was okay -ish. It was okay -ish. I still prefer

and I will always prefer Optimus Prime with a

faceplate in live action because I don't need

to see robot lips moving around. I just don't.

I think it looks stupid. I don't think it adds

anything to the character. I just need to hear

his voice. Like, I don't know what the visual

effects team was doing on this movie, but every

time I saw Optimus's lips move, I'm like, that's

just creepy because he couldn't convey like the

from what Peter Cullen was reading in the script.

to what he sounded like as the character versus

what we were seeing from the visual effects team.

It didn't translate right. It didn't, it didn't

look right. It did. It just, no, just please

keep him face plated, please. I still don't understand

Mark Ryan's Bumblebee voice. Like I don't know

if I, again, I know they did a little bit of

Radio B with this, but I prefer. Mark Ryan has

locked down Between the two of them between the

two characters I just like I would love to be

able to say to mark Ryan Let me hear your bumblebee

voice, please without any Like what would your

bumblebee sound like and all as I can hear in

my head and all as I heard in this movie was

still radio be like Again, you'd like you said

B is essentially relegated to the background.

I mean even though he's supposed to be the Well,

he's he's the Autobot Scout and he's supposed

to be the new second -in -command but he's Blake

Barely in the plate Drift and and crosshairs

and Hound are the three stars of the Autobot

team in this movie and bumblebee is just kind

of like fading into the background Yeah, I mean

I understood that I just yeah, I I Wasn't totally

disappointed I the Dinobots were kind of a throwaway

But I think it was because they were like trying

to do the whole almost borderline Godzilla thing.

Yeah and Honestly, if I didn't actually see the

Dinobots Other than Grimlock. I probably wouldn't

have like So, Strafe turns into a two -headed

Pteranodon. Slug is a mechanical spiked triceratops.

Scorn is a, whose nickname is Spike, which makes

no damn sense to me, but he transforms into a

Spinosaurus, which is fine. Like, Spinosaurus

is, like, I like the design of a Spi-, like,

so, okay, so you get a Pteranodon. Triceratops

and a spinosaurus a spinosaurus is much better

than a brontosaurus, which is what slugs are

not slug Sludge used to be a sludge sludge isn't

in this thank God I want to address this and

this isn't anything major. This isn't like earth

-shattering slag slug thing. I'm over it I've

been over it ever since Somebody explained to

me and I knew this already. I just didn't Apply

it to the Dinobot character a slug is basically

what you get after you shoot a bullet kind of

thing So I kind of like it now. It's okay It's

not it's better than any other name that they've

come up with to replace slag in the past so that's

fine Grimlock I like the fire breathing, but

that's about it like that's all he does is he

breathes fire and because I Guess this is part

of optimus's character growth question mark where

he's like let me lead you let me blah blah blah

and he has to like basically tame Grimlock which

It was kind of lame. I'm not gonna lie Yeah,

I don't know how much you know you putting a

sword in the back of a guy's neck is gonna tame

him. I don't know I mean like I said I don't

I don't hate the movie I just don't I just feel

like there was nothing here form like yes you're

right Megatron wants to rule the planet that's

fine Megatron but there's no spit like and I

guess I should be happy for this there is no

space needle there is no McGuffin of a plot there

is no matrix there is no this there is no that

well the McGuffin was the The seed and then yeah,

okay on ship and then the Transformium. Yeah

like, you know, I hated the the The fact that

they could Turn it into anything like their shape

shifter Yeah I mean Yeah, and the funny thing

is is they have Not I mean lockdown uses this

but it's it's used in every other thing and he

has the the I'm gonna call it a tractor beam,

but it isn't a tractor beam It's it's the magnet

thing that he you know is pulling shit up to

his ship And I'm just I'm just waiting for optimus

primal to show up because that was the when they

started doing that I'm like, where's optimus

primal because the first thing I thought about

was that scene from Beast Wars When Megatron

is pulling him up to his island base or whatever

the hell it was, you know what it is more than

I do. You know what I'm talking about, right?

Or am I crazy? Optimus Primal? Yeah. In Beast

Wars. Where he's doing what? Where he, Megatron

is using some sort of tractor beam to pull them

up. It's in one of the, is it not low road? It's...

There there's an episode. I know I'm not I know

I'm not crazy. I know that's the nemesis part

Oh, no, you're you're talking about other voices.

Okay, that's what it is other voices Yeah, where

he's where he's coming near the Vox ship. Yes,

that's what it is. Yes. Yes So we've seen something

like my point in bringing all that up is to say

that I Kind of liked that scene of lockdown doing

that because it reminded me of what Megatron

did and other voices Again, we're Transformers

fans folks. We're gonna pull shit out of our

asses if we need to pull a reference. So this

is what it is Okay, yeah, so we have the MacGuffin

of the seed and the seed is It's kind of like

the oars that shockwave from the aw comics went

and planted all over the world I guess and this

movie Technically is the start of a new sort

of it's it was supposed to be the start of a

new trilogy of films. We never got the the actual

third because that second film. Oh, God. So it

made, you know, Revenge of the Fallen look like

a masterpiece by comparison. Absolutely. I have

this one. This one, honestly, after after we

watch, I was like on the one hand it had. Like

a couple different plots going simultaneously,

which was a little jarring But and there were

points where I was like, okay, this can end a

lot sooner. Yeah But yeah, I mean It wasn't as

bad as I remember No, the next one though, I

will say is As bad as I remember I Don't so again

as I mentioned I Made it 10 minutes. I've never

actually seen it. So as raw as some of my reactions

are normally they're gonna be even more raw like

literally I'm going to have to take copious amounts

of you think there's 300 and something sins of

whatever for cinema sin. I'm going to be Watching

that movie more than once probably I don't know

maybe it just depends on how my sanity is at

the end of course my sanity has always been in

question, but Yeah, I don't know but it just

like After this movie, I like the cliffhanger

of Optimus going after the creators. I think

that's great again We have the ending of him

doing some sort of message to something and obviously

this one is the message to the creators Like

that cliffhanger, I'm just not sure if the last

night Fills the gap of the cliffhanger. Well,

and I will say that and I've been I was thinking

about this all day today In the first film we

have them What do they do? Oh, well, we just

did. I'm trying to figure out the historical

shit that they've stolen to wrap. So in the second

film, it was the pyramids of Giza. In the third

film, it was the space race. In this film, it's

the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. And in the

last night, all is I know is that somehow Optimus

Prime and King Arthur have a sit down. Or something

like I remember something about the Arthurian

legend being in the last night Yeah, I think

the guy that was there was our Merlin Merlin

was Anthony Hopkins. Yep That makes sense and

I was like Okay, but the film was just terrible

So, you know our Our normal questions from the

other format from the other show did the film

keep your interest throughout? Yes age of extinction

like I didn't get up and do any bathroom breaks

and whatever else I just was like Mesmerized

by the mindless destruction for the most part

And the second question that we usually ask her

are we itching to watch the next film now? No,

no No I was fine with it ending with this one.

Yeah, me too. Okay, you're going to end on a

cliffhanger? Fine. There have been plenty of

things in however the hell long television and

movies and cinema and whatever else has been

around 80, 90, 100 years, whatever it is. There

have been plenty of films that have just ended

on a cliffhanger. There have been plenty of television

shows that just end on a cliffhanger and you

get no resolution. Sometimes you want it, sometimes

you don't. At this point, it's like, okay, Optimus

Prime's gone off to space. By Space Daddy Optimus

Prime, you know like that that that that's all

we need Hmm What I recommend this no, I would

not recommend this I would not recommend any

of these films to people Not even for the whole

like action film no Because there's just too

much stupid there wasn't as much stupid in this

film as there were in the first three films and

then 2007 Revenge and Dark of the Moon and I

think that's because brains has been relegated

to being you know a Slave sadly, that's that's

very sad and very depressing. But like there's

no wheelie. There's no Thank God no robots are

humping Cade's daughter's leg So but yeah, I

would not recommend any of these movies to people

Zero to five. What are you gonna give it? Well

I'm probably gonna give it I Kept it 3 .5 Just

because some of the humans were better in this

it wasn't as annoying in some areas So, on a

whole, it wasn't that bad. It almost, if it was

the next film, it would follow the Star Trek

rule of every other film. The first film was

pretty decent. Then we got Revenge of the Fallen,

which was terrible. Dark of the Moon was good.

You get this film Which isn't terrible. It's

it's a decent start to a new trilogy Yeah, the

next film is terrible. Yeah, and then they it's

so bad. They had to reboot and go bumblebee,

which is better. Yep And then they're gonna ruin

it again with rise of the beast. So I don't know

if they're gonna ruin it We will talk about that

in a little bit, but yeah for me I'm Was like

I like the whole Stanley Tucci and his I did

like him. I like him and I like his MBA Taekwondo,

whatever it is assistance, you know, whatever

girlfriend whatever I like that. That's fine

Kate I like on his own but Kate mixed in with

his daughter and her boyfriend I Think everyone

would have a real problem with them bringing

up the fact that He was 20 and she was 17 and

all that. He was 19. Oh, I thought he said he

was 20. Oh, and they started dating when he was

19 and she was like 16 or something. It's still

it doesn't matter. It's still too much of a.

I don't know. I started dating my wife when she

was 15, like she would just turn 16, though.

And I was 17. Okay, yeah, but all right you technically

under the law you're still teenagers You're not

an adult when you hit 18. You're an actual adult

kind of thing. You know what I mean? Like it's

a whole thing, but it just it just felt really

creepy at first and then by the Their situation

did seem a little creepy. Yeah Plus the fact

that she you know, you know, she says oh, well,

it's nice you guys finally met Like, well, you

could have introduced him back when you were

however the hell old you were and however the

hell old he was. So yeah, for me, like that was

a glaring thing, but yeah, I can't go, I'll go

three. I can't go three and a half. I just, so

three out of five, I did enjoy most of it. I

was confused through 95 % of it, but now that...

See, I wasn't confused, but I also broke it down

into smaller increments to watch it throughout

the day. Oh, I might have to do that with the

next one, but a lot of bathroom breaks for the

last night, folks. But no, I watched the whole

thing. And overall, I enjoyed watching this movie.

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mayhem on all things transformers We got a little

bit of news to talk about first of all. I'm just

gonna mention this this is until they release

of the full season I really do not care, but

Transformers Earth Spark there has been a DVD

Amazon listing for the first 10 episodes Please

just release it in a complete series format.

Don't release it 10 episodes at a damn time Now

that drives me bonkers. Yeah, me too And then

we have your favorite we've got some repaints

Yeah, I'm a little like Excited because they're

doing repaints. I mean, this is Takara they do

this typically what what they're teasing though

is Basically show accurate colors of Optimus

Primal and Megatron from the Kingdom line. And

they're going to, for the Megatron, use the alternate

face, the one where he's going, yes. Nice. With

the teeth showing and everything, and not the

grumbly look. Or maybe it is the grumbly look.

I don't know. It's hard to see this image. Regardless,

it's kind of cool that they're coming out with

this. Yeah, very cool. Repaints are always good.

I don't know if I'll ever pick them up, but it's

like I already got one and I got toy hacks for

it. Exactly. And to be honest, if I was going

to go this route, I would just get the masterpiece

and be done with it. So then we have transformers

reactivate I'm interested in this. I don't know

what to think about it because there's really

not been much to go on. Yeah But I'm kind of

interested to see what they do yeah Love the

logo, but like the reactivate or the transformers

text, but Yeah, I I don't know, like they're

talking about having toys for the figures of

the characters in game. Yeah, that would be cool.

Prime and Soundwave, and I'm like, okay, let's

see what they do. Yep, absolutely. And the last

thing that I have here is... Robosen G1 Bumblebee

revealed and it looks like this will not be a

transforming figure like the Robosen Optimus

Prime There are no additional details currently.

It looks like Bumblebee will just you know be

on While he was on display at some Middle East

film and comic convention thing Uh, this seems

to be a non -transformable figure, but a self

-articulating action figure. So I'm looking at

this image and I'm like, okay, fine. Sure. Great.

That's, that's awesome. The only thing is if

it's going to move, if it's going to self -articulate

and they're going to do anything and they're

going to charge us like $10 ,000 or however the

hell many thousands of dollars these things are,

you got to get Dan Gilva's and damn it. If you

can get Peter Cullen. You gotta get Gil Vazan.

Come on Robosen, do your job. Seriously. And

yeah, that's all I got. So the other stuff that

I have is they they've released information on

in the first look of the retro G1 Thundercracker

reissue. Which I've seen the Starscream in store

and I've seen the hot rod And my kid was like,

oh that Starscream looks pretty neat and I'm

like, yeah I said I had that Long time ago. I'm

like and then he's sitting next to the the the

kingdom One with his throne or the studio series

86 with his throne and I'm like, yeah, this is

the modern one This is the original and my kids

like I don't know. I kind of like the old one

and i'm like yeah i mean it's nice but you also

have to you know it's parts forming in some ways

but um i like the new one i just i wish they

would have had it without the stupid chair and

the ceremonial garb yeah um because like that

extra 20 bucks for the accessories there yeah

it's not an accessory i cared about i mean you

would have thought they would have like had two

different bundles one that comes with the accessories

and one without You would think but Yeah, or

sell the accessories separate. So somebody wants

like a king thundercracker king start, you know

Skywarp they could do it but yeah, so there's

that and then they have listings showing up for

retro perceptor shrapnel and a special edition

optimus prime which nobody really knows Yeah,

what that is? Yep I'm wondering if they'll do

Studio Series 86 Prime. Because they're doing

everybody else. I love the Ironhide and I want

it, but it's not one of those things that I'm

going to splurge on. Unless I do the core class

just because it's cheaper and doesn't take up

as much space. I wonder if they did do a Studio

Series 86 Optimus. Like, which defining feature

from the movie would they use? Like, would they

use the point where he's talking to Ironhide?

Would they use the point where he comes off the

shuttle? And then obviously what they can do

is if they did do a Studio Series 86 Optimus,

they can do a Studio Series 86 Optimus B and

make him gray. the great repaint Dead Optimus

Prime. So that would be interesting to see if

they would do that. I mean, stranger things have

happened. They have, and I guess we'll kind of

see what happens. Yeah. I really want a... What

I would absolutely love, and I don't know how

they could do this, and I don't know if they

would ever do this, but... With all the technology

and all the toy manufacturing that Hasbro has

now and all the engineering and innovation that

they've been doing over the last few years, I

want a Power Master Optimus Prime. That's what

I want. They've kind of made that though. Have

they? Yeah. Really? Yeah, they made like, I think

it was during the Power of the Primes. No, so

what I'm talking about is I So what and I will

go to my grave by saying, you know saying this

I will defend this to the day I die Kingdom Rodimus

leader class commander class what I look commander

class Rodimus Prime is essentially a modern -day

version of the original 1987 Rodimus Prime toy

or 86 Rodimus Prime toy whatever your Rodimus

Prime originally came out in toy form It's just

a modern version of it. And that's what I want

for this. I don't want something that's based

off of whatever they did in Titans or whatever

the hell. I want one -to -one direct upscaling

of the original toy with modern stuff. Yeah,

and I would be fine with that. Yeah, I don't

know if they'll ever go that route. I don't know

if they ever will either, but hey, stranger things

have happened. I mean, look, we're getting a,

which doesn't surprise me, and we kind of already

talked about this a while ago, but we're getting

a Armada Legacy Evolution Optimus. So, you know.

I'm excited for Machine Wars. Yeah, I know you

are. And I don't even know why. I mean I had

a lot of my me and my brothers bought them all

like we had all of the figures because it was

a small line there was like 12 figures in it

right and I Just I don't know. I just really

liked that that line the premise the total difference

on it and I mean it shared an aesthetic with

Beast Wars in a sense, too As far as like the

logo So I don't know I just I kind of like that

idea and then I kind of hope with them doing

you know these Cybertronian versions of jazz

and Bumblebee that they do the you know, like

the the Beast Wars characters. Yep Yeah That

would be kind of cool if they did and I know

folks if they did do that He's going to get completely

jaded just like he got jaded over the Joker I've

put all this work into this thing. Well, the

Joker, they never made a Batman Beyond. That's

true. I thought they did, but... No. They still

haven't. I still have that figure. Well, of course.

I would assume you'd still have it. I wouldn't

see why you wouldn't. I did try to sell it at

one point, but nobody bought it. Oh, boy. All

right. Anything else? No, I think that's about

it. All right, folks. Well, that's going to do

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