Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows Review

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As usual is movie revolt Dan hello. Hello. And

we are back at it talking more turtles so as

you've been probably paying attention or noticed

over the last number of episodes we've been covering

all of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle movies

within the franchise we've covered the original

three live action. We've covered a couple of

the animated ones last time we covered the 2014

reboot live -action and today we're coming back

with its sequel the 2016 live -action film which

is entitled Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles out

of the shadows I know we talked about it briefly

at the end of last episode Dan but catch everybody

up with what your experience is with this movie

and what your history is This was the first time

I fully ever watched that I mentioned I try to

watch it a few other times on TV I skipped it

in theaters because I really disliked The last

one like I'm not going to spend my money. I'll

wait I came on TV. I'll try it and I just I couldn't

I I always fell asleep again and that wasn't

really the movie. I just kind of I'm really good

at sleeping So it was the first time I really

watched it through I Heard from a lot of people

that it was better into the last one You know,

I knew that Some of the I knew a lot of the storyline

in the sense of like characters that were supposed

to show up and things like that so I didn't have

huge expectations because I Really disliked the

last movie But I thought I knew that we are some

of the things you're hoping for like from the

characters from the cartoons are going to show

up and things like that so. I don't know I had

a mixed feelings going into this. Yeah I do remember

seeing this one time in the theater but I also

was not a big fan original originally of the

2014 films I did not have a whole lot of like.

Motivation or excitement for this one like I

probably went into the two thousand fourteen

one mildly hopeful and excited cuz I love you

know the original live action one so much and

I was like oh they're doing it again but that

one obviously disappointed me so I was just kind

of like and like I went to this one because I

believe there was a group of us going so and

I think Amanda was with me and I don't remember

if Ridley sent was with me or not but there was

a group of us that went and saw this one and

it was just like a popcorn summer movie but I

remember almost nothing from it As I rewatched

it stuff came back obviously, but it didn't stick

with me But I remember that I was kind of just

when I went into this the first time now this

one is Directed by Dave Green again written by

Applebaum and Nemec obviously based on the main

turtles characters and we're gonna get into a

few of the other characters that come across

so this one's following the the turtles on one

side we're gonna be joined with april o 'neill

again and we're gonna be reintroduced i guess

in this version to casey jones we're gonna have

splinter involved that's the main kind of group

on the good side and all we do also get obviously

the return of will arnett is verne the falcon

fenwick in this one so we have that and then

one other new human character that kind of is

Both good and bad, I guess at different times

depending on how your viewer is the police chief

played by Laura Lenny And then on the bad side,

we're gonna get shredder. We're gonna get cry

again we're gonna get the foot clan and then

the the new characters we're gonna get in this

one are going to be Crang bebop and rock steady.

Yes, there's no toka and razor this time. We

do get bebop and rock steady so What did you

think of just kind of the general plot for this

or the the cast of characters that they decided

to include in this film like what's your first

reaction all that. Well the first thing that

I know there were two casting choices that gonna

spit out to me. One being Stephen M. Ellis Casey

Jones because they came out in around the time

arrows really big and it seemed like. Okay that

makes sense I was I watched a little bit of arrow

and the flash I wasn't like hugely into it I

friends that are. Always interested to seeing

it. It made sense like your green arrow. I guess

why not be another comic book character? And

then of course she miss as Rocksteady you know

the WWE star and that was like of all that we

do like w stars like Sheamus isn't one like I

didn't even know he had asked acting aspirations

and I forget that he's in this so those were

interesting choices The storyline I have to say

this like one of the issues I had with the last

movie is that like like there was no Character

development whatsoever. There was like there

was a lacking of any character story or whatsoever

Here I say definitely, you know, it's a bit cliche,

but at least it's there like it you right it's

it's executed to the point of you understand

like what what's going on like, you know that

we see this drama between the turtles and you

have Donnie trying to lead them and There's friction

because Michelangelo wants to feel a part of

the regular world. So You know, it's clear and

concise and it makes sense. I think that's something

that this movie had going that the last one did

it. Everything at least makes sense for the most

part, which sounds like a low bar and it is,

but after the last movie was like, at least,

you know, point A and point B are a lot clearer

and it doesn't seem that things just randomly

happen. There are some choices that are like,

you know, a big question of all. Uh, there I

don't think it starts off the strongest per se

Like the this the scene with like megan fox where

they're like, okay We gotta get some scene where

we can have her undressed and look like a catholic

schoolgirl for some reason like that seemed a

bit derogatory and unnecessary Uh true michael

bay fashion and again didn't make this movie

or direct it but you know, like that was something

he was known for but I have to say on a sheer

just Ability to tell a story it was functional

and competent And at least when you compare it

to what we got with the first film Yeah, and

I want to get back into the characters a little

because I did miss one That was a somewhat of

a major character. I forgot that on the bad side.

You also have Baxter Stockman and then going

Yeah going into the cast a little bit just because

a few of these things threw me off right from

the beginning I was actually writing in my notes

multiple times Like is that the same person that

played this person in the first movie? Is that

the same person that played this person in the

first movie? And I was like I got a like I wrote

myself a note. Please check To see if these are

recastings or not because they seem like completely

different people so just kind of want to go through

i was right with most of them so we have a different

leonardo it's not johnny noxville in this film

like it was in the first one so there's a new

person for. Leonardo his name is pete plaza i'm

not familiar with his work but then we have the

same rafael donatello michael angelo with richard

howard and all fisher we still get tony shalhoub

as splinter motion capture is a different person

but the voice is the same. We get gary anthony

williams is b -bop shamus like you said from

wwe rocksteady we get brad garrett as the voice

of crying. Which i guess i didn't put together

right away we obviously have megan foxes april

anneal stephen amellas casey jones we have will

our net back those are all the same. We have

brian t as shredder who is not the same person

that portrayed him in the first movie that was

like the first one i noticed i'm like that's

not the same guy that played shredder. We have

tyler perry as doctor baxter stockman who is

not who played baxter stockman in the first one

i know he had just like a cameo in the first

one but it's a different person and then cry

is. Weirdly played by a different person which

i don't know that one seems like the most odd

to me because it's not like that major characters

some. Yeah, it just seems weird that that wasn't

the same person so some of those kind of threw

me off We have like the the all -state guy that

does like a cameo in the bar as a bartender Dean

Winters And then we have like a million cameos

like there's all these NBA people that show up

Kevin Eastman shows up There's like a supermodel

that shows up that some people may be familiar

with so As far as the casting goes, what did

you think of that and what did you think of the

people that were changing? Did it throw you off

at all, especially with Shredder? And did you

like the new Leonardo better than Johnny Knoxville?

I definitely appreciated the change from Johnny

Knoxville. Nothing against Knoxville, but he

did not fit as Leonardo and they were right to

change him. Yeah, the Shredder was one that was

very different because he was bald in the last

movie. They just showed his face a lot. Like

he was so surprised. Like how I was not a big

fan of that. Yeah. Front and center. He didn't

feel like shredder because of that to me. Like,

right. I get you want an actor. You hire an actor

to act. So you want to be able to see that. But

I guess it took something away from the character.

I think a little bit because that, you know,

that iconography when you have a character like

shredder, that's part of like what makes him

so menacing and like you'll have like the gauntlet

on or something like that. And It kind of works,

but it just didn't feel like Shredder in those

moments. The acting was fine. He didn't have

a bad performance, but that choice, because it

happens so little. So that one was probably the

most distracting to me, was those choices. I

did notice the voice of Crane being Ray Romano's

brother. And that, similar to Johnny Vagnoff's

voice a bit, like it... Okay, I think it hurt

it a little bit in my accent was hard to taking

prank seriously And I guess you're not really

supposed to because it's pranks. He's always

right enough But yeah, but I gotta say Tyler

Perry. I thought his dr. Stockman was it's perfect.

I thought he did a really good job Yeah, I think

I was so distracted I didn't recognize it was

Brad Garrett because I was so focused on if crank

was gonna sound like he did in the cartoon Yeah,

like I was really looking for like was he gonna

have those like high -pitched like we're like

almost like Voice changes where it's like someone

going through puberty or something like when

crank talks in the cartoon So I was like looking

for that and I feel like he did try to do that

a little bit like it wasn't quite as exaggerated

as it is in the cartoon but I was so like looking

for that that I forgot to like really pay attention

to who was the voice but Yeah, so that didn't

give me I want to get into a couple of the characters

like back stories a little bit and kind of just

briefly like their introduction so we get bebop

and rock study obviously was talked about Gary

Anthony Williams and Shamus who are these Criminals

who are in the car with shredder being transported

So they they start off as just those humans and

we kind of see like the typical story as far

as like Getting the the mutagen or the ooze or

you know the different things that we call that

to turn them into these Warthog and rhinoceros,

but what threw me there is that like the actual

humans were going by the name of bebop and rocksteady

already Like that just seemed weird to me like

Have you ever met a human whether it's a gang

name or a gangster name or a criminal name or

whatever I'm like So they're actually like just

trying to play it off like these guys were known

as rock study and be about beforehand That was

sort of little weird for me, but that's such

a minor point But the one I want to get into

and get your opinions on is more so Casey Jones

So we get Stephen Amell, which I think is fine

I like him as the cast of that I'm used to a

Casey Jones with longer hair because in every

other iteration I feel like he's had long hair

But that's neither here nor there. What I'm interested

to see is what your take is of the fact that

in all of these other iterations, I'm not as

familiar with the comics, but in the cartoons

and the other movies and whatnot, Casey Jones

has always been more of this vigilante. He seems

very anti -institution and things of that nature,

kind of this rebel, this anti -hero, so to speak.

And in this one, he is a corrections officer,

like literally working for the police. And then,

you know, his dream is to be higher up in, you

know, a detective or different things like that.

I can't remember exactly what rank he wanted

to be, but I think it was a detective for New

York or whatever. And obviously he's getting

thwarted by that. So he's like told he's never

going to, you know, make that. So he kind of

goes on his own vigilante. It was like a different

path, I guess, to the same thing, like he still

ends up a vigilante. But what did you think of

like the whole like background in the police

department? I just thought as a character he

seemed a bit too clean -cut like yes, and like

you mentioned this, you know having short hair,

but even He didn't seem to really fit the role.

I just part of it's like the voice. Okay. I don't

know like it seemed It he did not have that ruggle

aspect. Yeah Kind of rebel without a cause type

of character you strike with Casey Jones. I mean,

maybe it's him getting there, you know, it's

him like Working to that I did it did seem odd

that he would be a cop, but at least he's a correctional

cop, so maybe he's even in the outskirts of that.

I don't know. I guess you just need it... He

was clearly, I think, just there because you

need a reason for him to connect with the Turtles

and it's easier to do it that way. I wasn't a

huge fan of that decision, like you mentioned,

because it does seem to conflict with what we

know as the character, but I feel like with the

Turtles, if anything, we've always gotten different

versions of the way they approach them. But overall,

though, I just felt... I don't know. To me he

was in this movie because Casey Jones, you want

Casey Jones in the turtles movie. He didn't necessarily

feel essential to what was happening here and

like kind of felt like an add -on and he didn't

have that connection to me to the turtles or

any of the turtles that we've gotten. To me it

felt more like a stunt or just something they

felt obligated to do than something that really

made sense for what was going on. Right and like

one of the things that i've always enjoyed about

casey jones like you said is his interactions

with what you know either the turtles as a whole

or an individual turtle like we saw the obviously

a lot with rafael in the original live action

film. And they make like a conscious choice to

separate him from the turtles in a good portion

of this like. They have a whole sequence or a

whole set you know actor whatever where casey

jones and is it with april and burn and like

that type of stuff is not even with the turtles

so i feel like the. Separating him from the turtles

is not what I necessarily want like I want to

see more of his interactions with the turtles

So I kind of agree with you on that part as well

Did you notice it seems like they tried to make

some minor course corrections in the look of

the actual turtles? I don't know if it was from

feedback They got from the first one or or whatnot

like they're still hulking. They're still huge

and things like that but it seemed like they

took away most of the extra like like the chess

pieces and the different like It wasn't as busy

to me this time like I was able to distinguish

the turtles a little bit easier a little bit

more clear what did you think. I agree it seems

like they simplified them a great deal. Anyone

that seems to have just be as complicated ever

done a little bit it fit like it seems like it

they're just kind of had some key elements to

the design but. I still don't love the whole

thing look of them and everything that they can't

really be able to change that movie right but.

At least it would be, I think, an improvement

compared to what we got last time. Yeah. Another

thing that seems to be a trend here with our

turtle movies, a lot of the films that we've

gone through, and I know we shouldn't probably

expect too much from these. You know, just like

I said, popcorn summer blockbusters that are

trying to be super. I don't know what you want

to say, super complex or super whatever, but

does every one of them have to start off with

like a horrendous exposition piece? And this

one is being done via the jumbotron at a new

york's nick games like it didn't make sense like

i'm like in no world does this sequence get played

on the jumbotron in front of a. Basketball baseball

football take your pick. It's never gonna happen

like they might introduce somebody as like hey

this person Served in World War two or this person

was you know from whatever like a fireman from

9 -eleven But they're not gonna like go into

the hole with footage and all of this stuff It

seems so bizarre to me to start it in like every

turtles movie at least the last like I feel like

the last three or four we've covered have all

had like this Exposition right out the gate to

like get us where they need to be and it's just

Painfully obvious in this one, but we did not

get the painfully obvious Pizza commercial and

this one. Yeah, so I did appreciate that What

did you think of the? The turtle van because

we do get to feature that it seems like they're

doing a lot of things in this one Really specifically

for fans of the cartoon and things like that,

you know whether it be crying and beep up and

rock say but we get the turtle van as well and

I like the idea of the turtle van I don't think

I'm super sold on the giant num chucks, the giant

bow or the different like each of the turtles

weapons that are coming out like in turtle van

style. But what did you think of the turtle van

overall? I appreciated the attempt. You know,

I think this one that it seemed like, OK, let's

try to be a little bit more fun and goofy. And

it doesn't necessarily make logistical sense.

And I'm OK with that, because I feel like they're

also teenagers with That are turtles so they're

probably going to do things that just seem cool.

I can kind of believe it that they would make

big gigantic dumb shots because they think it

would be awesome to do. So yeah, I liked it.

I think that to me was like kind of the spirit

of the movie like not everything worked. It was

kind of there, but the attempt felt genuine most

of the time and at least at the end of the day

it was. It was fun, so I gave it that. What did

you think of the visual? Affects specifically

like when we're talking about the the villains

bebop rock steady and crying because they're

all gonna obviously have a whole bunch of CGI

stuff going on and from a visual standpoint for

me I really thought crank looked good like I

thought they did a good job capturing What he

kind of looked like in the cartoon but making

it a little bit much shorter and making it work

in a live -action standpoint I wasn't as old

on his body Because I thought his body was a

little bland compared to what we get in the cartoon

I'm not expecting it to be exactly like that,

but I it just seemed like kind of just nondescript

to me, but I thought crank himself was good and

Bebop and rock study there was nothing that I

like that stood out to me as like terrible. I'm

not saying it's like Award -worthy like best

special effects visual effects ever, but it didn't

seem bad to me So what did you think of the visual

effects on all three of those characters? I think

the overall movie looked pretty good. The special

effects CGI was strong. I felt the characters

were there. They had a weight to them in those

action sequences. They were able to match up

pretty well. The design made sense. I knew who

everyone was. It was clear. It had some club

acts to the cartoon and what you expect from

them. On the design standpoint, Gotta give it

the props it looks really good considering how

much of this even more so than last film. It's

built on CGI And even like, you know some of

the action sequences and things like I felt even

those look better here like so they're bright

and a lot of times with CGI they'll try to hide

it with like rain or being in the dark here like

they like it is where up in the sky The blue

sky in clear as day and that is not easy. So

I gotta give the you know, the CGI whoever it

was the special effects artist a lot of credit

because I thought they did pretty pretty sounding

stuff here Like that is certainly a huge strength

of this movie. Yeah, I agree there even if we

see bebop and rock city come out of like the

raging I don't know if that was a river or whatever

body of water that was in a tank that just like

Came out with no problem it was not affected

by that water at all but i think you're right

i think the action was good in this film i don't

think we quite got the action like we did in

the rich like it it wasn't. The original live

action we talk about how the action within that

had like all of these. I don't know not necessarily

all humorous beats but it had like this balance

of like hard hitting action but like. Comedy

mixed in and then they didn't quite go for that

Necessarily with the action which is fine because

I think they did a good job of adding in more

like one -liners and more Comedic stuff that

we would think would fit well with the turtles

like it's not like the turtles forever when they

make like the cartoon just like silly comedy

comedy like this one had like Just stuff that

the normal average everyday person would find

funny to me like there's lines about crank calling

him chewing gum And then they call him bubble

issues Like I thought that was hilarious. And

then there was a what was there something about

not being tall enough for the ride that he won't

he was wanting off of it. So I thought there

was some fun like one liners fun dialogue that

made it harken back a little bit more to the

original live action film for me at least. What

did you think? Yeah, it seemed like one of the

comments based on personality more so than like

forcing and jokes or stuff like that. Oh, you

know, It felt authentic to the characters. There's,

of course, mention the nunchucks where they hold

it up and it's knocked off. It didn't overly

undercut itself when things got serious, but

it also wasn't too serious where you kind of

like the Zack Snyder of it. It was a good balance

of both. Sometimes where you have those movies

where they're trying to have this like... Matched

important action sequence and then they undercut

it by some joke just because it's getting too

serious I didn't feel like that happened too

much. It was pretty consistent throughout So

I remember the other joke I appreciated in the

middle of the battle was when they went crying

like I think is Whatever happened to him and

he's like he made the line of he's literally

rearming like when he was putting yeah I was

like, oh that was clever the other thing they

do to really harken back to the feel of some

of those original live -action films was the

music so we have like Zoom zoom we have ice ice

baby in there and then I think the ending credit

sequence like the the credit roll is fantastic

like I don't know if you watch that or not or

if you stop before that started but they have

a lot of fun graphics they have the they're doing

the actual original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle

cartoon theme song like a variation of it but

they're doing that yeah they do so they do the

original cartoon theme song and then they take

Go from that and they transition into go ninja

go which was fun. So I think they did a lot to

try to like Capture some of that music and capture

some of that like to help the set like the atmosphere

and the kind of feel of the movie which was kind

of fun Another thing if you're like a huge Turtles

fan and I don't own this one on DVD But I looked

up some of the deleted scenes to have you seen

that any of the deleted scenes for this one?

Have that now so there is a deleted scene that

has Judith Hogue the original April O 'Neil from

the first live -action film playing Megan Fox's

April O 'Neil's is boss So yeah, so April O 'Neil

like has a meeting with her boss so it's a it's

Megan Fox and Judith Hogue sitting at a table

talking to each other and basically Judith Hogue

is offering April O 'Neil Chance to be like the

whatever you call it the anchor the main like

person for the news channel like they're gonna

build the channel all around her or whatever

and it's just kind of fun to see and there's

even a line where like Judith Hogue says to April

it says to Megan Fox like we're basically the

same person It was so well done. Like I really

wish they would have left that in the movie,

but it's available on YouTube So all you got

to do is search out like Judith Hoag deleted

scene and it'll bring it up and you can watch

it but I thought that was kind of a fun thing

that I almost wish would have been in the film.

I just happen to have some really good sources

on the stream. Well, we want to get you in the

studio full time. We want to make you the new

face of Channel 6. We're ready to rebrand behind

your image. April, there's a seven -figure salary

attached, not including the perks. Enough with

putting your life at risk with a paycheck to

paycheck. You might even have some time to meet

a man while you're still young. Rita, I don't

need a man. I talk to my career every night before

I go to bed. In the last ten years, I haven't

had a glass of water that doesn't have a slice

of cucumber in it. You and I, we're basically

the same person. Come and join me on the mountaintop.

Well, I'm honored. Well, then I'm going to take

that as a resounding yes. It's just that I visualize

this a lot, and I can't believe it's actually

happening. I mean, you know, I'm still paying

off my college loans, right? Not anymore. It

would have been much better served than the Carmelo

Anthony scene, I think. I assume so because it's

really Carmelo Anthony and there's like J .J.

Reddick's in there, Austin River. There's like

five or six like real NBA players. So I think

they had done that. the terms like you see the

number and you're like oh it's 135 million budget

and made 245 that's like 110 million but there's

other stuff that goes into that so it was not

deemed financially successful which mean that

the third installment of this got scrapped actually

and uh instead turned into an animated reboot

that's supposed to be coming out this year i

guess there's some sort of connection there but

I don't know how much of a connection that is

or if that's just somebody like creative license

like hypothetical types of so as far as the Reception

not to be surprised. It doesn't have a great

rot tomato score anything like that. It's a 38

% with an average rating of 4 .7 out of 10 and

Metacritic score 40 out of 100 cinema score average

grade of a minus which is I don't is there any

movie on cinema score that doesn't have a A or

B. I don't know. Yeah, easily. It's like a turn

like something like Mother, the Jennifer Lawrence

movie, because people didn't know that I was

going to be something else that it wasn't. So

some of those movies where it's like they, you

know, it's usually like our house films that

were were advertised as like a normal movie and

people hate it. So gotcha. It did get nominated

for some Teen Choice Awards for some Kids Choice

Awards and for some golden raspberries. You got

that going for it. It's yeah cuz Megan Fox was

signed on for three films I believe all of the

turtles guys were signed on for three films and

I think Tyler Perry might have said something

about he was supposed to be in a third film as

well So obviously none of that happened, but

what is your overall thoughts of this one just

in general? Did you wish there was a third one?

Are you happy that it kind of ended after this

one? Do you believe like you said in the beginning

that this was better than the first one like

you had heard? Do agree it's better than the

first one for sure. Like I said, it's it's competent.

It's like things move make more sense There it's

not it's like nine like the cast you towards

just make area a bit stronger I don't it still

has it like you mentioned so has this issues

It's still I think it's a bit comfy at times

but and but I did like the dynamic which mean

the turtles because we've seen You know Raphael

always be the rebel one, but here he still was

but I like I like the fact that a lot of the

dramas was centered around Michelangelo But that

was a bit different. That wasn't something we've

had before. Him wanting to feel like everyone

else and having that opportunity and having to

make that choice. Now, I do feel like the last

20, 30 minutes or so, the climax just kind of

speeds up and gets to where I need to get to.

And the conclusions aren't necessarily the most

satisfying. But I enjoyed my time here. I thought

it moved well. It did everything you need to

do. I would have probably enjoyed seeing this

in theaters. So, yeah, it was more of a period

in the first film. Not what's happened. There

were some really like cheesy moments like with

Casey Jones getting the skates and like, OK,

like I get it. He plays hockey. But they had

to take some things too far. But I thought it

was able to do what the turtle should do in the

sense of it would satisfy little kids and like

older. Fans, which is I mean you'd argue something

that maybe none of the films have done since

the first one, right? I agree that this one's

far superior than the first one Which is not

something you usually get like usually a sequel

is not doesn't surpass its predecessor But I

think there's far superior I think Krang worked

way better than I would have ever thought he

would have in a movie like if you would anytime

you ever told me like I didn't I talked about

like which characters they're using as villains

a couple different times throughout this with

the live actions and saying like, oh, there's

all these different villains that you could choose.

I know we mentioned Rat King and some different

people like that. Like, we're like, oh, you know,

why don't they do that? Crang never even crossed

my mind because I'm like, that's not even possible.

Like you can't do crying in a live action film.

And I am surprised as to how well I thought it

worked in this rewatch, having crying on here.

And it was I'm not. I forgot about the moment

where he just like immediately disposes of Shredder

in this. Like you think Shredder is going to

be somebody. And I was like, wait, what? I would

say that was my one like drawback was one. I

don't like I feel like shredder fell in line

way too quickly I feel like he'd be smarter to

realize that okay This writing is not does not

have my best interest in mind right that like

that that that was You know, it was like the

last film where? Shredder was kind of a red herring

again. So they kind of do the same thing to two

movies in a row So shredder was not represented

well in these movies, but right I agree with

that like to me that the two bad things in this

and it's not Stephen of else fault but I think

the two bad things in this is Casey Jones and

shredder like like we talked about Casey Jones

I just feel like it didn't fit the character

his backstory didn't work his look didn't work

his the way they did it just didn't separate

him from the turtles I'm not a big fan of and

shredder I think this is like one of my least

favorite shredders as well like both versions

in the 2014 and 2016 film I'm not a big fan of.

This one, it's a different person. So it looks

weird. You're showing his face all of the time,

which just like you said, just takes away the

mystique of shredder. And then you just dispose

of him immediately, like almost as a comedic

bit. And so I wasn't a fan of that, but everything

else, like I like the bits of humor they had.

I like some of the one liners. I like the music.

It made me feel more like the magic of the 1990

film. I'm not saying like, I don't know, necessarily

got to that level, but it just gave me like those

types of vibes, which I really appreciated. And

after this one, I maybe would have been excited,

at least interested to see if what they would

have done with another one or what they would

have where they would have gone from there, which

is not something I would have said just based

off the first one. I would have been like, no,

stop this, like, let it die. Let's do this again

in 10 years and see if somebody else knows what

they're doing. So. So so that's the last of the

live -action films that will cover but we do

have a couple other Movies that we want to cover

before the new one comes out and these are more

Ones that were either direct to streaming services

or thing or direct to video things of that nature

So the next one up is a movie that I have never

seen before and that is from 2019 Called Batman

versus Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles assuming

that we can both find a way to watch this But

Dan have you ever seen Batman versus Teenage

Mutant Ninja Turtles? Had none I've seen clips

online because it's uh, it gets reposted a bunch

of online like certain like the Batman of a shredder

and stuff But I've never I have never actually

watched the movie So I watched I read some of

the comics because there's been four different

comics of Batman and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

like there's a three -part series and then they

also did one where it's like the animated worlds

Cross so okay. It's on that but I've not actually

watched the Movie itself. So yeah, we're on we're

on new territory for me from this point out Like

there's nothing else in the Teenage Mutant Ninja

Turtles franchise that I've seen So I haven't

seen this one I haven't seen the the rise of

the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles the Netflix

Film and obviously I haven't seen the new one.

So it's gonna be all new watches for me So I'm

kind of excited about that And I think that's

going to do it for now. So we've covered all

the live action. We have a few more animated

to go. Dan, if people want to hear more about

what you're putting out content wise lately,

where would they go to find that? I can find

all my stuff at Comic Concierge. Most of my stuff

is on TikTok. That's my biggest focus, along

with Instagram, Twitter threads. Although I don't

really post on there nearly as much as I should,

but that's the best way to find it. You can find

most of my stuff at either optimus solo or you

can search out my youtube channel Which is the

geek showcase where there's a some variety of

different geek topics that we're covering Hopefully

I'll have some new content on there soon and

over the geek cast radio network There's other

stuff that you can listen to a lot of podcasts

especially and we're gonna be doing some fun

Content here towards the end of the year where

we're gonna be covering our top 100 toys of all

time That's a big project similar to ones we've

done in the past. So that'll be an interesting

thing to see so much wider topic than we've had

before and there's a lot of different types of

toys and they've been around for decades and

decades and maybe even centuries so it's going

to be interesting to see how that all boils down

so keep a lookout for that but that's it for

this episode of cinema geeks tune in next time

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