Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1990 Review

Hello and welcome to The Cinema Geeks. I am one

of your Cinema Geeks Optimus Solo and joining

me after a long, long break is Movie Revolt Dan.

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but Now we're back up and running and we're going

to be bringing you a series of episodes. I think

it's going to be a series of episodes if we can

stick to it. Celebrating a geek topic that we

haven't spent a whole lot of time on. You and

me haven't. And that is the Teenage Mutant Ninja

Turtles. We're coming out with a brand new movie

here in 2023 and Dan this is kind of your idea

to kind of cover this so why don't You kind of

let us know what kind of sparked that interest

in How we got here? Yeah, so yeah, like you said

there's a new movie coming out and And I've been

you know, I was big in the turtles as a kid I

don't know if but that was like I know you were

in the Transformers and things like that So I

don't know if turtles was a big part of your

childhood But I was I I didn't get into a lot

of the older shows But seeing that trailer it

got me interested and actually went back and

I started reading The first run of the comics

for the first time it's like and i was thinking

about doing it for tiktok going through and like

watching all the movies And again, it was again

i'll probably do some stuff at tiktok But it'd

be it was like, you know what that'd be the perfect

thing to do cinema geeks is go through that franchise

and be you know, there's a Because you forget

how many movies there are because you know, if

you especially if you count all the animated

So I thought you know We haven't really done

so we've done director retrospectives and things

like that But i don't think we've ever gone through

a franchise before So I thought it'd be kind

of fun, you know, and like my oldest is like

right at the age That I kind of was when I when

I started watching those movies So it was fun

watching, you know seeing how he was interested

in and whatnot. So I thought hey Did you get

to watch it with him? Yes this one I have so

I mean He didn't sit down and watch the entire

thing with me, but he was watching it again more

than I thought he would so Yeah, Turtles came

out in the late 80s, so I was definitely still

a kid. I had been big time into Transformers

and G .I. Joe and He -Man and things of that

nature. Turtles, I think I can credit Turtles

for making me for a small amount of time forget

all of that stuff. Like turtles came out and

I was like, okay, I'm done with all of those

other shows. Like this is where it's at and I

got some of the toys. I remember I had probably,

I don't know, maybe like 10 or 12 of the toys.

Not a ton, but enough, you know, the main turtles.

And I remember having, let's see, I had, I think

Baxter Stockman and Shredder and a couple of

things. I didn't have like as extensive collection

or anything, but I remember I was definitely

into the cartoon. But not as much maybe even

as I was into this movie like I saw this movie

in the theater I You know was a hundred percent

all about it. Like I collected the trading cards

that I think there was trading cards that were

either they might have been an animated series

or the movie but there was trading cards that

were around this time that I was kind of into

I had a lot of I got a couple books that were

kind of about this movie. I had the soundtrack

I had like the the trivia book guide or something

like there was like a unauthorized God, what

was it called like the unauthorized guide to

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles the movie or something

like that like and authorizes it was too off

the book and I remember trying to and I am a

terrible artist and I can't draw or anything

like that, but I was trying to like learn how

to draw the turtles and Like definitely had coloring

books of it. I memorized this movie. It was probably

the first movie that I could Quote line for line

like almost the entire movie and I'm not that

type of person like I might remember a line here

there But there's very few movies like Princess

Bride this Tombstone like in Star Wars like those

are the ones that I can like give you line by

line probably so I was this movie and I remember

the the marketing campaign I remember it being

big I remember getting the um for it was either

for this movie or the second movie but there

was a bunch of different musical stuff soundtracks

and I think that they had like this coming out

of your shells tour that they did yes and I had

that CD or cassette tape or whatever it was at

that point like I had that physical media form

of it and I remember just like I knew all the

songs and I was so into this so it was definitely

like what made me like stop watching that other

stuff it was like a new chapter in my life and

this was probably like the last cartoon I kind

of was big time into before I got interested

in sports and not that I wasn't interested in

sports before but like where sports kind of took

more of a forefront and friends and girls and

things like that came later you know as teenagers

and you kind of I kind of shied away from cartoons

just for a little bit not for very long but for

a little bit but this was like the last like

childhood cartoon that I really remember like

just being obsessed about so and like I said

there's been a bunch of movies so there was three

in the 90s this one obviously starts them off

and then we've had I think three animated Films

that were like theater release I could be wrong

though because I've kind of lost track a little

bit. I know there was two There was two other

live -action. I mean actually right? Yeah, there

was two live actions in the 2000s to the not

the people called them on the Michael Bay movies

But he didn't track them. I think he was just

the producer of them right those two and then

there's the You know the turtles forever animated

one, which wasn't necessarily in the theaters

the TMNT One that came out I think in early 2000s.

That was a theater release the cgi animated one

There's one that came out with from netflix last

year. That's on the with which is the new. Oh,

that's right Um, so wasn't I don't think it was

I don't think they released it in theaters. They

might have been like, you know, they do it like

oh Limited releases here and there. Um, and then

there's the one this year, which will Actually

believe be released in theaters. So there's yeah.

Um, it's quite a few. Yeah, I thought I know

I remember now but I like forgot about it when

I was thinking about it And there's been TV movies

and stuff like that too because there was that

crossover with the Power Rangers and things that

not actually movies movies But I think we're

focused just on the actual movies that came out

rather than like all the you know turtles and

the awful Turtles live -action one that was made

for TV. That was just plainly just really really

bad. So we write Yeah, it's definitely been one

of those franchises though that has every like

seems like every few years. There's something

new from it It doesn't seem to go like yeah a

long long time without doing a series or a movie

or a special or something It's been really it's

crazy how much it's been able to reinvent itself

because you know The original comics came out

and they were this like surprise indie hit and

became you know This toy line and into the cartoons

And then you know, he goes away and comes back

with the early, you know It's been able to each

cartoon series has had its own identity Right

movie series as well even the comics because

you had the ones in the 90s and then currently

there's a punch -out But there's like the IDW

which I know Mike and Steve have talked a bunch

and others have talked about in Geocast Radio.

And that's interesting because it's kind of a

blend of like everything in its own recreation.

So yeah, it's a property that kind of started,

I wouldn't say as a spoof, but a take on Daredevil

because they have a foot instead of the hand

and things like that. And then it's probably...

Arguably the most successful independent comic

book franchise ever I mean it's the most this

movie is the most successful independent movie

ever at least it was as a few years ago And then

just considering how big this franchise continues

to be even though it may not count called independent

But it started, you know, just two dudes in there

You know at their house making it it started

as a small indie hit and then kind of grew in

comic book stores more and more became a huge,

you know smash sensation with a cartoon and you

know, it just it's insane how popular it remains

I think one thing that the turtle franchise before

you know before we get into this movie specifically

one thing that I Kind of respect and appreciate

about the turtles franchise is there if if done,

right? It seems like they're able to take it

a lot of different directions with still And

it still works like they can take it a completely

comedic route. They can take it very like Fun

kid -friendly comedic and it seems to work for

this franchise And then they can take it and

do a little bit more serious a little bit more

I don't know if mature is the right word, but

you know, they can do a little bit Like that

like the original comics were obviously darker

and stuff like that and it seems like it works

in both respects, which is weird for Teenage

Mutant Ninja Turtles like it seems like such

a bizarre like yeah, I would have loved to be

the person that got that pitch to originally

like Any talk about what? I mean a lot of it

just seems like the name is what kind of made

it work because for now it makes you know, we've

Forget how weird it is because you have Teenagers,

you know this insane name of Teenage Mutant Ninja

Turtles But then it led to this, you know explosion

of like people trying to do the exact same thing

Let's just mash a bunch of things together like

the killer tomatoes. Yeah, or the biker mice

from Mars. Yeah, let's do Let's do that, but

nothing really ever came to their level No, no

there was like they tried to do it with frogs.

They tried to do it with mice They tried to do

it with a lot of different things Turtles apparently

work best for so the last thing before we get

into it. Did you? See this in theaters, or when

do you first remember like what's your first

memory of like seeing this? I did not see this

in theaters I wasn't really loved to go to the

theater as much as a kid and I didn't see this

I My first memory of it is watching it at a friend's

house. I don't know if it was a VHS when it's

older on TV Uh, but I didn't watch this one as

much as a kid. I watched these, the one we'll

talk about next week, much more. So I didn't

have as many memories of this one. I remember,

uh, I don't know if it was either. I wasn't allowed

to watch it, which I could see potentially because

there are some things in here that a little bit

more, there was controversy with it. But, uh,

I did watch it, but I was, I don't have. My like

you though the way you were all about was much

more much more about the second film, which we'll

talk about Yeah, I saw but not not a great deal.

I was equally into the second movie I'll let

you know that I definitely was dropping off of

when the third movie came out. I have very a

lot less memories of that one, but I was definitely

all in for one and for two in this series and

What was your kind of so how many times do you

think you've seen this movie overall in your

life? Just like a rough estimate Probably if

I count them as kids probably like good like

15 times or so it just I rewatched it a few years

ago Thanks for letterbox. I know it was wasn't

two years ago because I logged it and this was

the first time since then so And then like, you

know a few times throughout because it was used

to be on TV a bunch So when it was on TV here

and there Yeah, I'm probably the same I've probably

seen it one or two dozen times at least It's

hard to remember all the times as a kid. I don't

know if I if this was one that we rented I don't

know how I was able to watch it as much because

I don't think I owned it necessarily when it

came out but definitely I've seen it a lot on

TV or rented it or something and It's just something

that I feel like no matter when I pick it up.

It's just it's a fun Watch and it's one of those

that I can pick it up and I don't necessarily

have to watch it from beginning to end I can

watch whatever I have time for and I know how

the rest goes It's not that I have to sit there

the whole time. So So where do you want to start

with this one? You're like, what's your what's

your initial reaction? Or do you want to start

with like the beginning of the film and go from

there? How do you want to handle this? I guess

was what's a lot when you has a bit of a lot

while since you last watched this was just like

You going in in trying to like, you know Something

and then because I know what I watched it a few

years ago I was like, oh, I really remember really

liking it and then I was I was taken back with

how much I didn't like it. Oh Which which I'll

talk about none then I didn't like I thought

I was I think I kind of set myself up for failure

right right like was Were your memories what

you remembered? What did they actually match

up with a movie you saw? Yeah, it's it had been

a little while since I've you know this last

time when I watched it this week it Has to be

at least three years since I've seen it if not

maybe a little bit longer I know it was before

my daughter was born that the last time I watched

I believe That could be wrong with that memory,

but I I have never let So many years go by in

between it It's just one of those ones that I

kind of and I don't do a lot of re -watching

of films Yeah, but this just happens to be one

that just always gets put on, you know every

so often So I think because there has never been

that big gap that it's kind of stayed with me

somewhat similar reactions similar takes to it

Obviously at different times in my life. I've

probably been more critical about movies or more

Accepting them for what they are and having fun

with them, you know, so my Way, I watch movies

might have changed, but I don't feel like my

reaction to this film has changed that much Yeah,

I said like I still think it's pretty it's interesting

watching and now that I've like I Just like I

said I mentioned I read the first volume the

first comics the first run of in HP Ninja Turtles

recently and I've never read it before and now

like watching it this with that knowledge is

it was it was a very different experience because

Like, you know my knowledge before that was a

few comics and mostly the cartoons And you can

see like how you can tell this movie was trying

to kind of appeal much more towards those original

comics in a way. I think it was trying to kind

of ride the line of doing both because it was

a bit more comedic. The comic like they was black

and white and stuff like that. So you couldn't

really didn't have the colors and things like

that. The personalities felt a little bit more

of the cartoon, but the story wise, and it was

a little bit darker here and there because there

was some pretty twisted stuff that happened,

which I think is partially why I didn't watch

it as much as a kid, especially with Shredder

and whatnot. But it was interesting watching

it because there is a lot that is taken directly

from that original run. Like their encounters

with April that storyline there's a lot that

doesn't included because like the original run

also had Baxter Stockman and like the crying

people and stuff and gets way more science fiction

and with a like this movie which clearly did

not have that type of budget that we're gonna

be able to do that, but But yeah, I think I was

kind of impressed with like if there were was

no cartoon Before this I don't know like if people

would consider this like a movie design for kids

i think it could certainly appeal to them but

yeah especially as a you know watching like uh

there's like you know rafael cursing and things

like that i mean it was oh yeah you know there

wasn't like he was giving f -bombs or whatnot

but just enough to get him in that reading class

probably and knowing how there were like parent

groups that got angry and whatnot I'm like, OK,

I can see where that's coming from. I don't have

an issue with it, but I could see like people

going in thinking they're going to get the really

goofy cartoon and knowing that like Eastman and

Laird and stuff like that, who were the original

creators had their hands in this a bit more.

You can tell. It certainly feels not nearly as

goofy as like the cartoon at the same time. Right.

I think that's something that I appreciate most

about this film is the blend of the serious and

the humor because I think it strikes it to a

point where it's able to do some of those topics

and do some of the I mean like if you if let's

face it there's a lot of fighting you know, we're

ninjas and we're fighting, you know, the foot

and whatnot. And there is obviously depiction

of all of these kids that are at risk, that are

committing crimes, that are somewhat gang, you

know, in a gang, I guess, for lack of a better

term. And so I can see all that. There's, you

know, a little bit of the cursing, not that it's

like obscene or anything like that. But I mean,

the original story in this, the Tatsu, is that

his name? The Stredder's right -hand man. gets

in a fight with a kid and I think in the original

draft of it the kid dies yeah that he that he

attacks and I think they they decided I've read

somewhere on one of the trivia things or something

that they had to add in like the sound of him

breathing and something else like later on because

it got a bad reaction the first time it was shown

and with him just like basically No sign of life

after that fight, so there is those elements.

I think he's dead, the way they're acting. Originally

he is, and I can't remember if they said it was

a French audience or some type of audience that

they did a screen test for, and it did not go

over well. I think they said they added the sound

of breathing or a line by somebody or something.

So there is those elements that are a little

bit dark and a little bit more mature. But they

mix in enough of the cartoon humor to make it

so you never get bogged down by it. Yeah. But

not so much of the cartoon humor that you just

like are like this is super childish, super cheesy

to me at least. Like I felt like the humor is

well enough place that it reminds you of the

cartoon. It reminds you that this is a for kids

and some somewhat in a kid's story. But. It didn't

it didn't go so far where like it's like the

transformers movies where robots have balls and

things like that Like it didn't go to the so

far. It wasn't like the teenage juvenile humor

It was more humor that would I think work with

parents and younger kids and it to me Definitely

and I think to it helped that it it picked its

spots much better You know, like when they get

it would get you know, we got serious at times

like that whole farm scene I get it slow down

and like, you know, oh, yeah, you know you have

that The one thing that the one image that does

remain with me with this movie There's two scenes

that I always I can't forget It's the Casey Jones

and Rafael fight that always takes in my mind

and also the scene of Leah the you know the image

of Leonardo like sitting in that chair with Raphael

in the in the in the tub Because like, you know

you at that moment like you it does seem like

there's a chance that he's not you know He's

not getting better. So it in that whole sequence

I think was maybe one of the best parts of the

film because it just it you it made things seem

Much more serious than you would expect with

a movie. That's like this I think for a lot of

people because it's like in that. Yeah Yeah,

and I think it did it I think I had a one of

the deeper moments to there because as a kid

who's probably watching this You have siblings

that you've had fights with or had not got along

with or you have friends best friends whatever

type of friends that you haven't got along with

and it was like that moment where it's like No

matter what your differences were no matter what

you're fighting about when push comes to shove

This is your friend or this is your family member

like it's like I kind of appreciated that before

we get too far into anything else I wanted to

say to that this is somewhat unique of a film

from for me as well because I didn't get to see

there wasn't live -action Transformers films

until I was an adult right so or at least college

-age or whatever if you can want to call that

an adult so I When I was viewing those I was

viewing those through an adult lens. You know

the Michael Bay Transformers films so regard

Regardless of if they're good better and different

like it was just a different perspective for

me. The only thing that I had like this As far

as the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles being a live

-action film that I saw when I was into that

would have been the live -action He -Man Oh really?

Yeah, the Masters of the universe That's the

only other one I can think of that kind of did

that and it tried to do a little of the same

You know, it's trying to be a little bit darker

And and you know appeal to a wider audience things

of that nature But what I appreciate about the

Turtles that Masters of the Universe didn't do

is that even though it's blending these different

types of elements and different levels of seriousness

slash humor, it still to me felt like a Teenage

Mutant Ninja Turtles movie. Whereas Masters of

the Universe, I was like, they're on Earth, there's

characters I don't know, there's characters that

don't... look right to me you know it not saying

that they weren't allowed to you know be their

own and create their own thing but as a as a

kid I was like this is jarring because I'm not

it doesn't match up in my head to what this universe

is for me and turtles I never got that even though

they do change things here and there whether

they're trying to be faithful to the comic whether

they're trying to add some homages to the cartoon

or whatever It still always felt like it belonged

in that universe to me. Now obviously it might

be easier to do with turtles since it is set

in Earth, you know, and things of that nature,

but I never felt taken aback like this isn't

the turtles that I'm used to watching or used

to playing with my toys or whatever it might

be. I don't know if you felt the same way or

not. No, I thought for the most part they felt

pretty akin to what I was used to. I would say

like the one the one characterization that I

felt, at least not totally was different, but

at least the character didn't feel just quite

as right was like Donatello. I don't know if

you had ever heard of Donatello was mine growing

up. And to me, like in the movie, I know he was

voiced by Corey Feldman and he kind of felt like

a lesser Michelangelo. Like he didn't necessarily

have that. Like it kind of showed it a little

bit when he's working on the car with Casey Jones,

trying to fix up that beat, you know, the beat

up pickup truck. But he felt very much, you know,

they all kind of leaned in a little bit to Mike.

They all had a little bit of Michelangelo in

them, right? Actually, like Donatello. He felt

a little lost in the shuffle, and maybe they

thought, you know, there's Corey Feldman there,

so he's the person they're going to lead into.

Yeah, they missed the geek element. And that

just could also be the difficulty of using these

puppet suits and you know They're liking like

we can't have him also like, you know build this

robot car, which I get so So yeah, but outside

of that like, you know, they had all the staples

I would be looking for the pizza, you know, that's

the course of the the key right and shredder

I thought was very You know very much what I

used to. The one thing that was a little weird

was that you know the foot were people. You know

I was used to them being robots, so that was

different, but there's no crying. Yeah, there

was no crying, but as a kid like I feel like

it was going against what I was used to. It felt

very much what I was. Yeah, and as an adult like

if it almost it. It's interesting because I feel

like I appreciate it more because I can see that

they were trying to. You know, I think they did

a good job of like covering all their bases.

Yeah, what it was your obviously one of the big

things that you have to look at when you're doing

something like this And I don't think it matters

which time a live -action turtles comes out or

even when there's an animated form I guess I

think especially in today's day and age And it's

not a good thing necessarily But what happens

is is a trailer comes out or art comes out or

a poster comes out and then you know the internet

Loses their mind because the first reaction is

always just strictly on the visual like what

is the character design? What does it look like?

What's the animation style? What is the costume

look like and it's obviously Gets way more play

today Than it would have back in 1990 But what

was your initial reaction to the look of the

turtles the suits the costume mean that you know,

obviously Jim Henson this is one of his last

projects and they like my mind like almost all

things Henson you can tell that there was so

much work and time and care I think they said

it took like 18 weeks to just make the the mold

of it and Then stuff like that. It was fiberglass

and then they did rubber and then they took like

a full body cast I think if I remember correctly,

but so there there's a lot of work that the Henson

company does but how did you think it transpired

because It's a weird concept obviously to have

especially in the late 80s early 90s to have

live -action Turtles, so how do you think they

pulled that off as a kid? I loved it like it

did seem like exactly what like it I believe

they completely they seem to You know move like

I would expect them to I'm now looking back at

it I still think it holds up really well for

the most part I think the one place where it

struggles the most is probably when it comes

to like, you know Talking and things like that.

Like I know they shot it at a different speed

to try to speed it up Right to try to make it

seem A little bit more crisp and it works for

the most part. I do think like that's the one

time when it didn't always Work because like

it's also hard to make Turtles mouths move in

general let alone, you know, like it's it, you

know, it never took me out, but it definitely

feels like That would be the one knock I would

say like the yeah them them trying to communicate

they were it was good though at a time is showing

emotion surprisingly enough like the one time

like There they have the uh, they're actually

crying because um, they're meditating and bringing

in a splinter I'm like, oh well, there's actually

a decent amount of motion there, which is pretty

impressive for a giant turtle puppet So I think

there's a lot to be impressed by it wasn't perfect,

but I like I don't think you could have done

any better than they did Yeah, I think they somehow

I don't know if they took classes or got tips

But it seems like they did did a lot of emotions

with their arms and with their bodies, you know

Obviously they were limited in what they could

do I thought splinter for me even though it's

Kevin Clash is one of the puppeteers I think

I said they took like three different people

to do splinter and that one to me was the one

that was a tiny bit jarring at times just because

it just seemed like it wasn't quite as fluid

and the turtles they seem to Either be not as

close up to him at times or they they just masked

it a little bit better But anytime I want to

be critical about any of the visuals in this

I just think about the next mutation cartoon

that came out like years later and looked like

so much worse It looked like a Chuck E Cheese

like version of this or whatever I think the

way it was shot helped to because it was a bit

darker and like had it they were able to you

know hide it pretty well, but yeah the Splinter

seems frail like he seems very I mean he's supposed

to but then when he gets into the Actually the

action later in the film it you know, it's a

bit stiff, but you know, right I think something

about the mouth movements and the eyes were just

a little bit off to me not like bad But it's

just like this doesn't look like a rat. He looks

more like yeah, that's true like a gopher. I

don't know You don't want you know, you don't

want this thing to like you scare people so you

kind of make it Right. It's got to look like

the good guy. It can't look like the villain.

So obviously you talked about how they did do

some things that were based on more of the comic

origins, some things that were more true to the

cartoon. I know one thing that some people might

have been thrown back by if they were being super

critical. As a kid I didn't know any of that.

I didn't put two and two together. But like Splinter's

backstory is different in this than what some

people were probably used to going in. Cause

I believe, is it the cartoon or the comic where

he is the adult version? In the cartoon, he's

an adult who turns into a rat. So the movie is

different. Honestly, it's weird. I can't tell

which one I prefer. It is kind of weird that

he's just as a rat learns karate. But he's just

a normal rat. That's a great scene when he's

mimicking the guy in the cage. That's fantastic.

I do like, I do think it was a shot interesting

too, like those dream sequences where it's like,

there's no background. It's just, but yeah. As

a kid, I remember as a kid being really confused

because I'm like, wait, cause you know, he was

like, he was an adult, but it didn't, it wasn't

that, you know, it didn't attract that much.

I don't know which one makes more sense, you

know, because a person turning into a rat or

a rat. Learning I think actually the IDW comic

does a really good Job with it because they kind

of bring in reincarnation as part of it as well.

So like it adds it makes it over like the It

goes back into like feudal Japan and like how

it's like these characters these people are being

reincarnated from These these other individuals

from way back So it it adds it adds a little

bit more of half to it But I could understand

why they would not do that for this. But yeah,

it's I I get it. I don't know which one I prefer

though. I don't know. Is there anything else

that was that kind of differences or something

that wasn't the same as it was and whether that

be the comics or the cartoons or anything else

like that that struck you you know on your watches?

Not not per se like I said like the the comic

gets into this iPhone realm a little bit more

because you know with Baxter Stockman and those

like rat trap things I forget what they're called.

Yeah, you know and so I Think for the most part

like it's pretty like like I said the how Raphael

and Casey Jones Come together is pretty similar

like they're The relationship with April kind

of falls in line. There's there's a there's some

stuff They don't include like which I get like

I said There's a lot of things that they can

certainly cutting around but I know as a kid

too It was kind of like where's bebop and rock

city and we can probably talk about right or

next week so But yeah, I know that originally

there was like a longer opening sequence where

they actually showed the turtles like coming

out of the swamp Yeah, and and then did like

a long tracking scene kind of taking it from

the swamp into the New York City into the you

know Whatever, whatever, but they couldn't afford

to do kind of finish that for the film. I agree

like you have April She starts off the movie

like we start with the news report, which I think

is a clever kind of way to set the stage and

to do that, you know, without it just being like

obvious. You know, like like sometimes you'll

get that movie where you just have like the speech

come out of nowhere or something like that, where

you're like, well, this is exposition just to

catch us up. I thought it was decent where they

used her as a reporter because that's what she

is in the cartoon and so we kind of set the stage

for this crime wave and stuff like that. You

have her in the yellow jacket, which is obviously

very cartoon -esque. They changed the news channel,

I don't know why. Maybe there's a reason. It

seems like a weird thing to change it from channel...

Three to six or something like that, but that's

so not important Yeah, but it's just something

that you notice but like so I like that kind

of the setting of the stage and kind of how that

goes They use the definitely the cartoon logo

kind of pops on the on the screen So you don't

have a lot of that going I didn't notice too

many other things that kind of threw me off or

that they changed or anything like that When

it comes down to scenes, I know you talked about

those two scenes the one in the bathtub and then

the the fight scene with the Jose can say go

back. That's there's so many great lines in this

movie. Look. I don't want to fight you well tough

rocks, pal A whole sake and say go back Tell

me you didn't pay money for this whether they're

cheesy or kid -friendly or whatever like there's

just like line after line that I love but was

there any other scenes lines moments that kind

of stood out to you that you really enjoyed well,

I mean the fifth It looked like that pizza shouldn't

have gone through the I know like because of

the cross beams and stuff like that I'm like,

why is there one where that pizza fits through?

Maybe one of the best special effects is making

that actually Way better than when shredder throws

the sword at the TV. That is probably the worst

effect of the movie Yeah, which I was always

watching that I'm like why you have all those

TVs and they're all in the same channel like

it feels like You know, I mean it just seems

it was a very that was a very you know comic

book movie or you know very uh sequence the other

thing that that stood out to me because I forgot

I didn't even realize that um because I when

he when rafael says he's going to the movies

I forgot that he actually does go to the movies

yeah uh you know go to go to see critters which

is of course you know a nice little nod uh but

I also think I guess originally I guess originally

he was supposed to go see batman because it was

in theaters at the same time as this oh really

And they had a line where he was gonna say something

like What was it something about like sweet car

but? Cheesy looking suit or something like that

or something bad costume nice car I don't know

it's gonna be because there was a Batman film

in theaters this year as well, but they changed

it to critters I guess yeah, it makes sense cuz

yeah, I guess Warner Brothers wouldn't allow

it or something but I was like How does no one

notice him? I think it's meant to be enough,

because with Fantastic Four and Ben Grimm, he'd

wear a similar outfit to try to hide. It's not

a big deal. But I do also love the line when

he's fighting Casey Jones, or in that sequence

when he goes over the car and it's like, I think

it's a giant turtle. And they just kind of move

on with their day. um so now that one stood out

but yeah my favorite was that that whole farm

sequence even you know kiki jones and donatello

going through the alphabet uh with insult it

worked Again, it was good at picking its humor

because you had, you know, April O 'Neill doing

the voiceover, which is a good way to like sitting

on stage. But then you had one of those moments

to like, you know, to lighten the mood a little

bit when you definitely needed it. What about

you? Yeah, a couple different like line segments

like the obviously the Casey Jones thing is great

like the Jose Canseco bat was one that as a kid

I don't say that anymore, but like as a kid that

was one that we said all the time I think when

they're watching ASAP a Rocking Bullwinkle segment

when they're talking about, you know, obviously

it's Clever they have the hair and the tortoise

race or whatever He says something about like

ninja kick the damn rabbit. That was funny There's

there's a lot of scenes and sequences like that

I was always a big fan of the farm sequence as

well because it really slowed things down you

got to see a bunch of the Turtles and a little

bit more about them a little bit more of their

personality Etc where it was, you know, like

you said Donatello and Casey you saw, you know,

the Leonardo got a lot of time Obviously there

would just see a little bit more deep of his

character. So I really enjoyed that There was

a couple of different fight scenes that were

that were cool. Obviously, there's the numb chuck

off Yeah between the foot and the turtles which

was kind of fun and some of those fight sequences

are just fun whether it's The best visual I mean

you have giant turtle suits and kids and ninja

costumes going through this I'm sure they did

what they could but there wasn't like they're

gonna train everybody on how to do all this stuff

so I but I thought a lot of it was fun with how

they use the props and how they use their setting

and surrounding and stuff like that as far as.

The house and the objects that they use and things

like that I thought that was kind of clever the

sausages links kind of like the nunchucks and

things like that were fun to me. Thought to it

was interesting It just made me think of this

because you talked about the taxi cab or the

car whatever the that Raphael runs into or whatever

and just a random trivia thing that all the Performers

that were inside the turtle suits the four actors

that were inside because they all had different

voices except for Raphael Raphael is both physically

and voice is the same person, but all the rest

were a different Person like there's one person

inside the suit one person providing the voice

But all of the guys that were in the suits got

cameos as like side characters in the film. I

thought that was kind of clever and kind of fun.

So one of them was in that car, like in the backseat.

I think one of them's the pizza delivery person

and things like that. So it's just kind of some

some nice little homages or nods to those characters.

Let them actually be seen since they're in the

turtle suit the rest of the time. I didn't wreck.

I didn't realize until like literally this watch.

that Sam Rockwell was in this book. I was actually

going to ask you that. I had no idea. Note me

either, because obviously he's really young.

Right, I had no idea. I probably watched this

three or four years ago, and it must just not

have dawned on me. And then I didn't even realize

it again like I'm like why does that kid look

familiar and then the credits popped up and it

says Sam Rockwell I was like, oh, that's why

he looks familiar. So then I had to go look and

I'm like, well, who else did I miss? And it doesn't

seem like there's anybody else big like we talked

about Corey Feldman is obviously one of the voices

and whatnot. I guess they say that Skeet Ulrich

and Scott Wolfe are in the foot somewhere. Uncredited

roles that they but they are in there, but I

don't know if that can be confirmed or not But

just another little interesting note What did

you think of the different performances different

voices that acting, you know, etc. Any comments

on that? I thought the voice like the voice actors

like I mentioned work really well. I thought

of course someone did a good job I don't know

if he really it's the character of Donatello

that well, right? I think more if it's probably

a Script issue than it was like his performance

per se see, you know, he did Corey Feldman he

also I thought that did like a really good job

like he because sometimes when you get actors

and voiceover you know roles you feel like you're

just getting the name and the performance isn't

really great but I thought here that wasn't really

an issue because this is really before You know

this is rare for you know like it's like it because

cory felton was a huge name i mean maybe by this

time he wasn't as big as he was in the eighties

but still a movie like this um that people which

was being released independently and didn't have

a gigantic budget i think he even said like he

was only paid less than a few thousand dollars

which is crazy um but but yeah other than that

i thought the performances were Good. I didn't

love the, I think the person who did the voice

for Splinter. It just felt a little bit overly

stereotypical. I don't know if that was, it says,

looking at the credits, it says Kevin Clash did

the voice, but I don't know if that was true

or not. I'm not sure. But yeah, in general, the

voices I thought were pretty strong. I mean,

you're all about voice acting, so it was great.

I mean, obviously a few of these guys aren't

like super, they didn't have like humongous careers

as voice actors, but that doesn't necessarily

mean the performance can't be good. I mean, Robbie

Riss did a lot. Kevin Clash obviously does so

much with the Sesame Street and the Muppet World.

And Corey Feldman is kind of the celebrity version

of it. I thought they did good I never was thrown

off by any of the voice work or ever thought

that like this is overacting or you know like

doesn't fit the the movement or the look or anything

like that I thought they portrayed them how they

were like I said like you said though if Donatello

is the brains or the geek of the turtles that

didn't come across in that performance but I

don't think that's Corey Feldman's fault I think

that was just how the character was written which

was just a choice I guess whether it was too

hard to Do that or whether they just decided

against it, but you like you said they came across

as various versions of Michelangelo But for me,

I guess that didn't bother me because I was always

between Michelangelo and Leonardo were like my

two favorites So like I was fine with that at

the time So yeah, that all kind of worked for

me Another thing that worked for me and I know

it's probably dated now when you watch it But

this soundtrack and this music is just so 1990

it very much is yeah And I love it in retrospect.

I mean it probably wasn't wouldn't work for like

a kid today Like they'd be like, what is this?

But it just like takes me back instantly to a

time when that type of music was popular So like

I enjoyed it like the one that when the song

comes on right at the end like as the movies

kind of closing It's just great like a little

rap 90s rap Super 90s the music I mean my my

kid enjoyed it for the most part which I don't

know if that's just more about My impact on his

musical taste in anything, but he also he kept

asking is like are those puppets? I'm like, yeah,

they're He was really impressed. It's like, you

know his most of the stuff he watches is You

know CGI so like it was that like it still worked

for him and as a kid that this came out Here's

Lee 23, you know years later still working for

kids today at least my kid. So I think that's

right Since we're talking about performances

when I thought it'd be fun to look at this and

just a little trivia spot here again But Judith

Hogue who did the role of April O 'Neil? She

only does it for this movie. She doesn't come

back. I don't believe ever For any of the other

movies, I know she doesn't come back for two.

I don't think she ever comes back, but I could

be wrong, but She said something about how she

was not a big fan of the the violence and a couple

other things regardless of what her choice was

But it just made me Interested when I was going

through some of the trivia notes of this that

there was a lot of people that they looked at

for April O 'Neill So I'm gonna throw out some

names. Tell me if you think any of these would

have worked I think Judith Hogue did great. I

wouldn't change her but they said that they considered

Marissa Tomei Sandra Bullock Melanie Griffith

Nicole Kidman Lorraine Bracco Winona Ryder and

Brooke Shields for April O 'Neill Any of those

think that are you good with what they did? I

mean, they're all pretty good. Those are all

you know, huge actors I guess trying to think

of I guess center this was before speed. So yeah,

I don't know how big she was I mean, I think

she could certainly she probably out of all those

feels like the one that would probably be able

to do that role because she has that kind of

commanding like right kick -ass presence like

taking up her roles and like what are those movies

miss congeniality or whatever So I think I think

they all could have she probably would have been

one that I would pick out of them all but like

you said I thought you'd have told was good and

she did what she needed to do I did think it

was like the like the attraction the turtles

had for her was a bit weird because you're like

you're still turtles So like this is gonna work.

Yeah, but uh, but uh, yeah, I thought she was

good And then we had Elias codeus as Casey Jones

I don't know if I said that name the proper way,

but I loved him. I wish he would have got more

Stuff that I would have seen him and he did do

other stuff and nothing that I saw But they had

some other names that they were looking at for

that as well Keanu Reeves Christian Slater Lou

Diamond Phillips Emilio Estevez Kiefer Sutherland

Jason Patrick Brian Austin green River Phoenix

and Johnny Depp Yeah, I don't think any of those

like me only yesterdays is too short So I don't

think honestly right after like it's cuz you

know, he's supposed to be this hulking figure

I mean he Christian Slater have done it Christian

I don't think they like I never I don't feel

like Christians later has much of a like a physical

presence to him Yeah, maybe I guess I don't know.

I'm fine with what they did I actually really

loved the the Casey Jones performance like I

I didn't wasn't as big of a fan of Casey Jones

in the cartoon But in the movie, I really like

that character Yeah, I don't think I can't imagine

any of them in it. Yes. I think he I mean Keon

Reeves, I don't think has like especially that

like in that era. I don't think he would I'm

obviously joining the guys John Wick. So clearly

he can Do that type of stuff, but I don't know

I don't fit that I think it come off I feel like

he would end up acting more like the turtles

in a way like and I don't think he would have

been able to For me, I wouldn't have believed

him as like a New Yorker. No. Yeah, I agree.

Yeah, I don't know So this is another one of

those movies that is It's been around forever

It was done, you know in 1990 and it's one of

those that kind of has probably a cult following

of diehard turtles fans Etc. So I like anything

of that nature You see this in Star Wars. You

see this in a lot of things This is another one

of those where there's all kinds of things to

really look for on rewatches If you really want

to like if you're a really big fan get like a

guide or get like a blooper Real or something

like a list of bloopers to look for and there's

endless stuff to look for when you're watching

this film like there's scenes where Weapons like

bend against walls like rubber there's scenes

where you can see the person inside the turtle

suit apparently I haven't caught that I've never

ever find it while I'm watching it, but I've

seen the still image of it. It's it's haunting

Yeah, and I think they say that's when Raphael's

in the bathtub In the farm scene at Leonardo's

there one of them like leans back and opens his

mouth or something and you're supposed to be

able to see the person inside and there's different

stuff like that like there's pieces of Equipment

there's a crew member hiding under a table at

one point That's not supposed to be in the shot

like so there's like lots of those like little

fun things It's kind of reminds me of the stormtrooper

hitting his head on the yeah the top of the prison

cell or whatever So there's there's fun stuff

to watch for it on a rewatch if you really want

another excuse to go watch turtles and Here's

another thing though to look for if you're a

geek and you're a big -time Saved by the Bell

fan. There's a Saved by the Bell episode where

they focus on Screech's it's at Screech's house.

They have a party and They accidentally like

break his some stuff that his parents are very

attached to and one of them's like a big Elvis

statue like lamp or Elvis statue or something

like that that exact same Elvis statue or lamp

that's in the saved by the bell episode is in

April O 'Neill's apartment I don't know why I

don't know why they made that crossover or if

it's just a prop that happened to get used twice

and then somebody put two and two together but

that's another fun thing to look for so anything

that prop newspaper that's shown in like the

people use in like so many different TV shows

Yeah, yeah, yeah totally and there's lots of

stuff that they kind of play homage to whether

it be like something that was playing on a TV

or a poster or an advertisement or a movie that

was you know different things that are kind of

like nods to different stuff that they were trying

to like Pay respects to or just be funny with

or whatever So it's kind of a fun thing to watch

for all the different stuff on the backgrounds

or the little scenes although some of them you'd

have to go like frame by frame to see it so I'll

have to look up that that that's still on the

online because I've never seen the the inside

of the turtle suit with the with the guys yeah

you see his eyes it's and it's just it looks

like it looks like he's like eight feet a person's

head weird another thing they did last thing

i want to get your opinion on before we kind

of give our closing thoughts and whatnot is i

read a couple different times where they had

to change the height of the turtles so in the

cartoon they're more depicted at like four or

five foot Shorter than most of the other humans

and most of the other things that they're up

against and obviously here in the movie They're

the same height as most humans, you know, five

and a half feet to six and a half feet somewhere

in there I didn't even think of that. I didn't

notice it. It didn't bother me It didn't like

it was a complete non -issue. But do you think?

There was a reason for that or do you think it

worked equally as well whether they'd be smaller

or larger? I think it makes more sense for them

to be the size of it because I mean I meant to

be ninjas and things like that So you're like

this big hulking figure and we'll talk about

that with the other You're not really a ninja

anymore. I mean, I guess you can be but I felt

you know there makes sense and also like turtles

aren't big, you know, you think turtles are typically

Small, you know, they're not so Made perfect

sense to me. Yeah Any other things that you wanted

to point out on or highlight or anything else?

They did also April's van that same van is the

one obviously. Oh, yeah one that's in the cartoon

and they eventually make it into You know the

turtles vehicle, but also it's the same It looks

just like the van that's in the original comic

as well in the original comic. They had this

really fantastic chase sequence and I was I was

wondering maybe if they had more of a budget

if they would have done something similar But

of course, you know, it didn't happen But but

yeah, that was the one that I saw that I'm like,

oh they have they they did show the van but and

then it quickly gets changed to the truck later

on so Right. Oh, I forgot too. They do do a nod

to Eastman and layered at the end to when the

when Sam Rockwell's telling the chief of police

where the warehouse is He said something about

like it's on the east Go to the East End or the

East Side on Lairdman Street or something like

that or Laird Street, Lairdman Street, something

like that. So a lot of that was kind of clever

and fun. I enjoy this film. I know it's not like

an Oscar -winning movie or anything like that,

but I, every time I watch it, I have fun with

it. I don't know if it's nostalgia or just feeling

like back when I was a kid and having the fun

with it back then, but I still appreciate the

humor. I still laugh at the lines, even though

I've heard them a hundred times. Is a bunch of

a cheesy when it comes to some of the action

and the fact that they're up against kind of

a Pretty tough task when they're in these turtle

suits Which are obviously not easy to maneuver

with and they're doing all these fight scenes

and they did what they could obviously like you

said with the Changing of the the frame rate

and things of that nature to make it looks like

it was a little bit better But it all kind of

works for me. There's a couple spots where you're

like Oh splinter looks a little odd or that knife

into the TV. It's totally cheesy looking But

overall, I think it works for me. And I don't

know if it was just because I was so thrown off

by the Masters of the Universe film that this

one comes out and I'm like, oh, this is how it

should have been like this works. Like this is

that universe. This is that world. And this movie,

at least as a kid, worked well for me. And it

had me super pumped about the second one when

it came out. I had a different reaction as we

go through all these films to each one of them.

But this one had me really excited about the

second one. Yeah, I think it's. It's really ambitious

when you go back and you think about this movie

that like the you know Obviously working with

henson was a huge benefit and they certainly

did a remarkable more remarkable job thinking

about what Making this actually work and you

think if this came out in 1990 the cartoon was

only like a year old it was popular but still

like who knew like considering the amount of

work that went into this before it was released

like Probably had no idea. Like what are we even

doing here? So I like it was A lot of them you

can tell there's a lot ambition. They took a

lot of chances And it also feels just genuine

genuine like it's not a movie That's like ashamed

of itself like it real slightly like it realized

what it's it what it is and it's kind of proud

of that and like in a way like I feel like sometimes

movies will Do the thing where they always try

to like make fun of themselves or be like shameful

even like with superhero films today like But

with this I never really got that and like I

said I do feel like the characterization is really

strong. Even if I had my issues with it, they

feel like actual brothers It's a fun time and

you know, it has its issues. It's not like, you

know, this is like you mentioned It's not a movie

I put up for oscars or anything like that or

say like but I would put it up for oscars when

it comes to like, you know special effects, uh,

even if they're, you know dudes stage hands in

the background, uh, but uh, but also uh sound

and engineering like that. I thought was done

pretty well. So Overall it and I think especially

if you like put this up against all the movies

that have come out based on cartoons. Yes. Oh

my goodness. Yeah That's like a whole different

list that I don't know if we ever want to really

get into but like It's a good example of how

to do it at least for a kid I think it works

and I know and I don't want anyone to get mad

at you the the cartoon Technically debuted in

87 But it was only five episodes in 87 and there

was only like 13 and 88 So it really wasn't until

89 where it really took off. There was 47 episodes

in 89, but just so none of none of our you know,

I Got in trouble once for calling something tiger

hawks instead of tiger sharks. I don't want anyone

Yeah, but so I guess so by that time it probably

was at least they at least had it was popular

I don't know, but I'm trying to think of like

how long it must take to make this movie because

of all you know i know like i said just the suits

themselves i know they said it took like 18 weeks

to make that That's just that's just one aspect

of the film. You know what I mean? Like there's

so much more to go into it It was I guess we

should mention that it was a box office success

I know you kind of said at one point that you

mentioned that it was the best in the independent

film for a while. That's grossing Yeah, and it

was just overall even without that It was like

the budget as far as like the online sources

say the budget was like 13 million. Obviously

that doesn't the the Got like a 40 something

percent on Rotten Tomatoes or something like

that I feel like I feel like when it's a called

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are gonna come out

with their you know with their knives out as

you know, but Right, right. I don't know. I feel

like when it comes to I've watched a lot of bad

bad family films I've watched a lot of like we've

watched a lot of bad video game movies Which

I think you can kind of put this in a similar

category and it's like leaps and bounds above

all the above most of those Right and some of

the it's weird when adults like take themselves

too serious or take movies too serious like a

and not judge it for what it was trying to be

I guess like I don't know some of the critiques

on that I read a little bit weird one of them

was like saying that none of the turtles had

like any personality or something like that I'm

like that's like one of the strengths of the

movie Too similar, but they're also brothers

that only know each other. So I don't know how

different right? I mean rafael rafael was always

a standout because he was a hothead, but Yeah,

right, right, right What what do you think of

their decision to add those few cuss words in

there? Like obviously he says, you know damn

like three or four times and at the end they

say bitching I don't know if that's considered

a cuss word or not But I mean, what do you think

like it seems like every movie like this does

that they all throw in? And I don't know if it's

always to get a different rating in the theater

so they can be shown at different times. I know

I've heard that before as an excuse, but what

do you think of just kind of including that and

what is otherwise a kid's thing? I think it was

probably a conscious choice in the sense of,

especially the, you know, it's one of the first

words that you can hear them say. I think as

a way of saying that this isn't going to be just

like the cartoon, like this is its own thing

as I try to like establish like this is, you

know, more based upon. The comic that it is,

you know the what came before so I don't mind

it like it It's not egregious. I would say like,

you know There's far worse things out there But

I do you think like I said totally it fits the

movie that they're making But I could see like

for some people being like I think that's probably

why we didn't own it as a family because I Watched

that and my parents were watching it with me.

It would have been an issue So I think that's

probably why we mostly stuck with the second

film Which, you know, that ended up having its

detractors as well. This is the most adult -disconnected

critique I've ever heard. So poorly photographed

that the red -masked turtle looks almost exactly

like the orange -masked one. Yeah, I mean, it

is a bit dark, and the cinematography is not

pristine, but... Well, that's what you came away

from the movie with. But also, it's funny, we're

talking about cursing, and then also the fact

that they did crush shredder in a garbage truck.

So, you know. Right. That scene always like that.

I forgot about that. That sequence did definitely

stick with me as a kid. And it was one of those

other ones too that you saw because at that point,

you know, I was old enough where I had seen like,

especially in cartoons, especially when you watch

cartoons because nobody dies in cartoons, right?

As far as when we were kids, like. Obviously

after his prime dies in the movie, but like as

far as like your actual daytime or Saturday morning

cartoons like nobody dies Yeah, and so you're

used to seeing the bad guy go through something,

but he always comes back right he gets You know

upended or he gets stopped or he gets like what

appears to be he maybe is done And it's never

true like he's always back the next week on the

next episode So I remember watching that and

seeing that the the dumpster was coming down

and then being like but it only got his helmet

is the only thing we saw so you're like is he

really dead is he coming back like that type

of stuff but it did have that it did have the

the adult karate master or whatever you want

to call their version of kung fu jiu -jitsu whatever

like just whooping the kids butt taking out his

rage on them you had like splinter like hanging

there And stuff like that. So it definitely had

your mature So I think you're right. It's probably

was like a hey, this isn't gonna be just all

fun and games They were you know, they because

I know like Eastman and Laird had Definitely

Eastman had a bit of a say when it came to some

of the movie I mean I mean ultimately like he

wasn't the person writing and directing it but

I think there were some choices where it's like

we're You know, let's try to make it. Let's let's

de -goofify it a little bit, which I, you know,

which might be. Because the cartoon was extreme.

Yeah, yeah. I've not watched the cartoon since

like, it's been about 20 years since I watched

an episode of the cartoon. So I really, I could

imagine when it's like going back and seeing

it compared to some of the more recent ones.

Yeah, it's like all the way to the other end

of the extreme when it comes to like its humor

and stuff like that So and that's just based

on memory. I don't I need to rewatch some of

it, too But I have like the whole turtle van

with all the seasons and I just haven't busted

them out yet Yeah, any closing thoughts or anything

else you want to wrap this one up with before

we close I'm looking like I said, I'm looking

forward to going because like this one I like

I said, I watched the most recently recently

only a few years ago, but The second film and

the third like I don't think I've seen the third

film more than one So gonna be interesting going

through but be curious to hear what people have

to say if they're if they have a favorite version

Of the turtles because there there are so many

Yeah, yeah I've definitely never watched them

all like in a row or anything like that So I'm

interested to see kind of how they all stack

up on this watch. I Definitely only saw the third

one maybe once and I've only seen the second

one a handful of times compared to this first

one but hey I'm excited to watch Kevin Nash.

So let's get to it. So that does it for this

episode of Cinema Geeks covering the 1990 Teenage

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Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles to the secret of

those Take me out, take me out in power Take

me out, take me out in power Take me out, take

me out in power Take me out, take me out in power

Take me out, take me out in power Take me out,

take me out in power You better hurry up, there's

no time to wait! We need help, why click off

a double? Have pity on the city? Man, it's in

trouble! We need heroes, like the Lord Ranger!

When Toppo came pronto, where there was danger!

They didn't say we'd be there in half an hour,

cause they displayed journal power! Now our ace

reporter was hot on the trail, determined to

put these crooks in jail. She spied the bad guys

and saw what happened, but before she knew it,

she fell in the trap and got caught. Yeah, she

was all alone, with no friends, and no phone.

Now this was beyond her worst dreams, cause she

was cornered by some wayward teens. Headed by

shredder, they were anything but good. Missed,

guided, unloved, they called them the foot. Take

it to a rise, and be angry, you then. They mugged

the people who needed truth, then from out of

the dark, came an awesome sound. Shouted, California,

as they hit the ground. From the field of weeds,

the heroes rescued the flower, cause they possessed

the turtle. Are we oxen, or are we howlers? Can

you stand and help you believe in? And find the

strength to do what's right? That's Turtle Power!

Girls on a half shell, they're on a mission When

there's a battle got the enemy wishing that they

stayed at home Instead of fighting these ninja

masters with moves like lightning They're once

normal, but now they're mutants Sprint is the

teacher, so they are the students Leonardo, Michelangelo,

and Donatello Make up the team with one other

fellow, Raphael Here's the leader of the group,

transformed from the norm by the nuclear beauty.

Pizza's the food that's sure to please. These

ninjas are ends of pepperoni and cheese. Back

to the story, it's not hard to find. Ninja's

not just for the body, but for the mind. Those

were the words that the master instructed, but

a letter from Shredder had splinter abducted.

That was the last straw, spring into action.

Step on the foot, now they're gonna lose traction.

Now this is for real, so you fight for justice.

Your shell is hard, so you shout, they can't

dust us off. Like some old coffin table Since

you've been born you've been willing and able

To defeat the snake, protect the weak Fight for

rights and your freedom to speak. Now the villain

is chilling so you make a stand. Back to the

wall, put your sword in your hand. Remember the

words of your teacher, your master. Evil moves

fast, but good moves faster than light. Shining

from your illumination, good versus evil equals

confrontation. So when you're in trouble, don't

give in and go sour. Try to rely on your turtle

power. Toot toot toot toot toot toot toot toot