Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2014 Review

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It is good being a turtle, but not always good

to watch a turtles movie so. Today we are going

to be talking about the live action Teenage Mutant

Ninja Turtles movie from 2014. Was it just called

TMNT or was it called the Long Farm Teenage Mutant

Ninja Turtles? It was called Teenage Mutant Ninja

Turtles. They were you know they're putting all

the letters out there so okay gotcha gotcha so

this is a two thousand fourteen PG thirteen film.

That was the second attempt at a live action

i guess series of films from this franchise so

we had the nineteen ninety and all the ones the

three that we talked about then. We've talked

about a couple the animated ones and now we're

back to live action. I know we talked about this

a little bit at the end of last episode damn,

but just remind people what was your experience

with this movie coming into this viewing and

how long had it been since you've seen this movie.

So it's funny because we were talking about it

and like I didn't see this in theaters. I didn't

think I did, but then you know good old letterbox.

I was letterboxing back then it was able to see

no I actually did and I realized I did see it

for podcast. So it was like. able to go back

and listen to what I thought about it then, and

I still think the same here. I know going in

I wasn't super looking forward to it. I was curious,

but there was so much, I don't know if I want

to call it controversy, but the moment the trailer

came out and we saw the new look of them, you

know, there was all the comparisons to things

like Shrek. Michael Bay's name was attached to

it, so that brought with it a lot, and the casting

seemed to be questionable, so... I wasn't super

excited for it i had like a small slimmer of

hope that maybe would just be fun cuz i do like

the first transformers movie like i'm not a huge

fan was transformers fan but. I thought the first

film was at least fun like maybe it'll be enjoyable

you know maybe we know we'll get something out

of it but i did not like it in twenty fourteen

and i have not seen it since then and see if

my opinion has changed what podcast do you do

for this did i do one. No, I don't know if we

didn't one for it wasn't for something because

you're talking in circles. Okay, gotcha I probably

did talk about it on some form of a podcast somewhere

and I've just probably completely forgotten so

I had seen this in the theater in 2014 and I

Remember and this might have been something I

was just venting on Twitter or some other social

media or maybe it was via podcast I think it

might have been on Twitter. I Forgot of what

my gripes were with this film back then I remember

at the time not Being super happy about the film

and not being a huge fan I think the only reason

I saw the sequel was because it was a group of

us Going and we just thought we could have fun

with it or whatever. But so I remember What my

opinion was but I didn't remember why Until I

rewatched it here and then I was like, oh I remember

I had a big problem with this part I remember

I had a big problem with this aspect or this

plot line or this whatever whatever So it's gonna

be interesting to go back there to see if we

share some of those opinions but yeah I was not

a huge fan of this in 2014 and we'll get into

if that has changed for me as well. So my first

goes right back to what we talked about when

You are what you were just talking about which

was the visual aspect I think that's the first

thing people reacted to via the trailer and all

this other stuff You said the comparisons to

Shrek my first question I wrote down when I was

watching the rewatch here was why are the turtles

on steroids? I just I guess I don't understand

the character design at all on in this series

but I know at the time I had a bigger problem

with it probably in 2014 because it was like

New and I was younger and this any other and

I thought well, maybe I'll get past it when I

rewatch this I still Watching it. You know this

last week still have a problem with the look

of this Yeah, they don't look all that appealing

one like they don't look like ninjas per se They're

so like bulking and out of place So it just seems

like I don't know that seems like the opposite

of what you'd want I do like how they're very

distinct from one another. I'll give them that

like they don't all look The same just with different

headbands although that was kind of the point

back in the day but i get like you know trying

something new and how they have like different

aspects to them like. I don't itself a little

overblown with the glasses and at least they

just like okay let's go with the personality

as much as we can rafael being the biggest i

think is the concept i don't mind it's the execution

i find to be rather odd and. Like mickey has

a bit like his complex even with his face is

much more a moat. The other characters which

I get what they're going for but it just also

like almost like uncanny valley per se like it

just doesn't look right and They don't look like

turtles. I remember there was like discussion

about them being aliens I don't know if that

was a rumor or what it was but and I think like

them being gigantic kind of leads to a lot of

issues because them being these like they say

six feet but I feel like they're like eight feet

tall the way that they walk around and move and

then because of that you need to make shredder

into Even bigger foe so he's basically a transformer.

I mean I'm all for doing new things, but I was

not a fan of how it all came together Yes, so

I think the thing visually obviously I felt like

they were too big. I felt like they were not

as a motive as there was so much going on with

them and I know this isn't Michael Bay's fault,

but it reminds me of a similar thing that was

one of my biggest complaints with some of the

transformers films was There's so much going

on and There's It gets hard to follow like it's

hard to follow Especially with like you're talking

about with shredder like there's just so many

blades and so much metal and So much CG going

on that like it's similar to like how some of

the transformers were so Metallic and had all

these different pieces and this had the other

and in the transformers I think what they did

is that as time went on is they started adding

more of the color back in so they would give

more of the reds and the blues and whatnot so

you can kind of get some more distinct because

otherwise it was just All of these silver metal

ish things clashing with each other and you're

like, I don't know what's what I don't know where

one begins and the other ends and like this that

the other so I had like it had a little bit of

that for me I wasn't a huge fan of Raphael having

Like a bandana instead of a headband if that

makes sense Yeah Like I know that's their way

of like making it more distinct But it just made

him look weird to me Because of how it makes

like it just took less of him or took more of

him away in a way for me And and just covered

it up. So I wanted to see more Emotions from

all of the turtles i remember at the time i didn't

mind michael angelo as far as like the characters

go but i think everything is just a little over

done in a way. Like you're talking about. I don't

know I just I just was not a big fan of them

being as hulking as they were and as far as the

cast goes obviously we're gonna get a completely

different cast here so we're gonna kind of run

down everybody that's involved and then I'll

take your thoughts on more than just the visuals

but just kind of like how you feel like they

kind of fit the characters or if they worked

or didn't work so obviously we have Johnny Knoxville

as Leonardo I know that made waves when that

was announced we have Jeremy Howard Donatello

Alan Richson Raphael I'm not familiar with either

of those people Noel Fisher as Michelangelo.

We have Tony Shalhoub doing the voice of Splinter.

Most people know him from like Monk and a couple

other shows. Obviously we have another Transformers

connection because we got Megan Fox here as April

O 'Neill. Will Arnett as Vern Fenwick. We even

have a little kind of cameo of Whoopi Goldberg

as Bernadette Thompson. So they've kind of switched

a role from the from the cartoon. We have to

horo masa moon a as shredder i don't think i

need to get into too many other people will it

will you pick me as eric sacks. So what did you

think of the characters that chose to involve

in this the people they have playing on how they're

portrayed any other thoughts on that type of

stuff. I thought the casting in this is so random

it is like it is so weird like johnny noxville

as leonardo i do not understand that cast choice

i know. In any way shape or form like I think

Johnny Knoxville is fine, but he nothing about

him Even like it just it was so distracting.

It was just so distracting because it always

felt like Johnny Knoxville The other turtles

I thought were pretty strong. I thought like

especially Noah Fisher like a whole no all Fisher.

I hope I don't know anything about I thought

his Mikey was really good. I thought he He executed

it pretty well and same with the others but that

but also Tony Shalhoub is splinter like it's

same thing like I I just hear Tony Shalhoub and

And also, I think if you're gonna have like a

secret bad guy don't cast William Fickner because

it's like The guy just eludes evil like he might

be a nice guy in real life. But like he just

seems like okay He's he's he's not good. Okay,

right And then what do you think of the Megan

Fox Will Arnett combo? Man, I don't think Megan

Fox is a bad actress per se. I think you just

have to place her in the right roles. This wasn't

the right role for her. I don't think she can

carry a movie like this. And so much of this

is her movie. The first 20 minutes is the April

O 'Neil show. She does not come across as this

tough -as -nails reporter that's trying to get

the story. She does seem like maybe an entertainment

reporter or something like that. And it's really

hard to act against nothing cuz you know when

you're acting against these turtles with her

not really there or we have stand -ins and I

don't think she excelled there at all I did like

when she was working with Lauren that like a

lot they had. Some good back and forth here and

there and Lauren and I thought he played that

comedy role you know well enough I like him he

you know he's he was willing and you know he

basically was who he always is but. Yeah, I don't

want it. I think they the casting just doesn't

make sense and they didn't place the actors in

the best opportunities to be successful starting

with Megan Fox. Yeah, I think everything you

just said there was like all of my thoughts.

So I 100 % agree. I think it's just weird to

me. Like, okay, so you want Johnny Knoxville

in this movie. Cool. Alright, so there's four

different turtles with four different distinct

personalities historically and your choice is

Leonardo. It's like he's from jackass like wouldn't

you put him as Michelangelo? Like or I don't

know like would you put him as the leader like

he's the serious straight man of the crew So

that's weird to me. I agree. I like Michelangelo

I like the rest of the turtles seem fine Michaelangelo

to me was the standout Will Arnett is fine in

that role I think he does that pretty well, but

Tony Shalhoub's distracting Johnny Knoxville's

distracting Megan Fox is Megan Fox and it's just

Seems like misplacement there. I'm not it's nothing

against her. It's just she doesn't belong in

this role She doesn't belong in this movie to

me and I'm as fine with whoopee Goldberg in her

little small role I guess I didn't get what that

was kind of I forgot she was in this movie I'm

like, why is whoopee Goldberg here and this small

like if like she was doing someone a favor or

she like needed to get her sad card So it's like

I need to be in a movie. What's that? What's

playing down the street turtles? All right, give

me I don't know. It was just so random That is

kind of the thing with Michael Bay movies sometimes

like like especially like they're just random

stars that show up and Sometimes it works like

Bernie Mac as a car salesman whoopie Goldberg

as like the editor -in -chief of a newspaper

Yeah, and it was you know it was so take it The

other thing they do with this film is they completely

And unless this is somewhere in the comics that

I'm just not aware of they completely read right

the origin of the turtles Like, this is, to me,

nothing that I had seen prior to this. Maybe

it matches up with some book or comic book or

something somewhere, but I'm not aware of that.

So, the interesting thing that they do is, again,

like you're saying, it's almost like the April

O 'Neill story because they write her into everything.

This is not just a reporter that's reporting

on the Foot Clan that happens to stumble across

the turtles. No, now she is like the person that

saved the turtles once upon a time. And her dad

is... Part of the group that created the turtles,

which I don't think ever had been a thing before

and so instead of like the whole splinter shredder

thing you have this Eric Sachs and Dr. O 'Neill.

Creating for without getting into the specifics

creating the turtles and then shredders playing

a part in this as well. What did you think of

kind of flipping all of this on and like for

a second I'm. I was like okay this is a way to

make april i guess connected more with the turtles.

But how do you think that all played out i know

with the itw series like her role was changed

a bit and can't remember if like it's been such

a long time to read read the beginning of it

like if they took inspiration from that but but

they might have but they also have like a whole

reincarnation thing with that which they did

not get into at least in this in this installment.

I get what they're going for, but it felt like

a cheap way to get a connection between April

and the turtles, especially because it doesn't

really come into play until they meet for the

first time. Like maybe if it opened up on a scene,

like that's the opening scene of April being

within that lab or something like that, but it

comes so out of nowhere, like that's not ever

really brought up that much. It feels very forced.

Unnecessary, I would also say. I don't see how

it really benefits the story all that much outside

of giving her this connection to the Sax character,

but I was not necessarily a fan of it. It just

seemed a bit dumb. I think you can do that, but

it was just poorly executed in this. Yeah, and

then I think the other thing that kind of bothered

me a little bit with that storyline is that okay?

So then you have like the classic the two doctors

that are working together and they have a disagreement

or this that the other whatever So one's good

and one's evil and then like to me you shoehorn

shudder into this somehow and I didn't quite

follow or understand like The dynamics and how

that all worked and then we also have Karai again,

which we've seen a couple different times So

she's in here and it just it just seemed again.

It was getting convoluted like okay. Well, I

O 'neill and sacks were enough and now you got

all these other backdrops of things and I remember

what really really really bugged me when I watched

this in 2014 is that there's a whole set of dialogue

from William Fickner as Eric Sachs here where

he's like explaining his motivations and this

guy is being portrayed as like the I don't know

like the richest of rich guys like he's like

an Elon Musk. He's like a Like a Tony Stark like

like he's got like all of this stuff, right?

Like he has three different divisions of his

company and he's controlling all this different

like there's a biotech and there's lots of different

stuff They name them all at one point. So he's

like already portrayed as like probably one of

the most successful one of the most net worth

human beings in this universe that we've created

and then his motivation behind the entire movie

Is to become more rich. Yeah It's yeah, like

I remember when I heard that line when I was

watching the regular movie. I was like what?

Like That's his motivation. Like it's not like

there's no other depth to it. The rich guy wants

to be more rich Like yeah, and and the way they

go about it too It feels like you're gonna end

up like hurting yourself and the way you're gonna

negatively impact New York then you're like it

just seems like this is not Your best option

and right so and and to go back to the whole

cup So yeah, like the IDW comics April O 'Neill

does she's an intern? So it's not as a kid, but

she's an intern and she knew that she names turtles

So they kind of took that but they did their

own spin with it. Yeah shredder is basically

like the goon in this He's you know, you like

how James Bond villains have their you know,

the guy that throws the hat or jaws, right? That's

kind of his role. I don't see My job, I can't

think of his name. I only know that from the

game. I'm just kidding. It's not really his story

as much. He's not as connected. We don't see

that, you know, with the first film and, you

know, General Turtles, there's always that connection,

the Splinter and Shredder, and it's not really

explored here. Like, I thought the opening of,

like, how they introduced Shredder was really

cool. Like, it definitely, like, okay, this guy

is a pretty big badass. And although they showed

his face, which seems... counterintuitive to

his character, but whatever but yeah Treader

seems like an afterthought and I guess that was

kind of the point He was supposed to be red herring

that he's the bad guy, but no it sacks But then

it makes less sense and the whole plan doesn't

make any sense. It's not making sense is like

the forte of this film That should have been

on the poster Teenage Mutant Turtles. It doesn't

make sense Yeah, cuz there's just so many things

that it feels like there was more to this movie

that got cut out or like You know like it just

feels weird in the editing like there's that

you know the one action scene with a going down

the hill the mountain which i'm like what mountain

is this in new york city near new york city but

logistics don't make sense but like there's this

whole thing with like rafael hurting is his shell

and it's like okay we're actually having some

you know some stakes here like this yeah it has

to be careful but then two seconds later uses

his shell to like take on a humvee and he's perfectly

okay so it's like where. I don't like the term

plot holes or anything like that, but there's

just a lot of things that don't make sense with

this movie, that are just there and they don't

go anywhere, or it's a mess. It is a mess of

a movie. I remember, I wrote that down as well,

I'm like, so his shell is a big deal until it's

not. Yeah. Maybe he's Wolverine, that's a healing

factor, I don't know. Yeah, I personally think

this is one of the worst depictions of Shredder

I've ever seen. I'm not saying it doesn't start

cool or anything like that, but like It's again

like we jumped us to super shredder immediately

And then it's just got like these blades that

he can shoot out and then they can return to

him But then he's got blades on top of blades

and like they hype him up so much that it's like

okay Like there's no point in having the turtles

fight him nobody can beat this like you've created

like the ultimate sword machine here and I don't

know just again. It was like a red hair and it

was an afterthought it was Just thought it was

pointless like he might as well not have been

in here like just have cry with the foot soldiers

I guess but the other thing that I was wondering

what your thoughts were splinter gets depicted

a little bit different here It's almost like

they saw the Star Wars Movie when I don't know

it might have not even come out by this point

But there's the Star Wars movie when Yoda's like

all of a sudden doing backflips and jumping around

and like being like a badass Jedi Yeah, and and

it's like they wanted to do that with splinter

because now he's got this tail That's like massive

and has like all of these abilities to like pick

people up to throw them to trip people like and

I don't remember ever seen that from splinter.

What did you think of this new like I guess splinter

is on steroids too. What did you think of that?

He's like he's like the the lizard from the spider

-man movie like yeah tail can do everything Yeah,

I guess you know Clone Wars is when Yoda went

crazy. So that would have been Early 2000 so

that would have come out by now. I really just

like everything they did was printer in this.

I just like the look of him. I mean I get he's

a rat, but it was just it was just really disturbing.

The other thing they did with the turtles. I

forgot to mention this when I was talking about

this is going back to when I was talking about

how like it's hard to like. Get like to see what's

exactly going on as they all have these unique.

I guess is a word chest pieces. Like instead

of their turtle shell, Yeah, and like I guess

it's supposed to fit their personalities or whatever

but that too seemed like Going too far to me

Like I didn't quite understand why they had what

they had on their chest. I remember Raphael has

something specific I don't know if all four of

them did but it again it seems like another way

to like make it less just I don't know maybe

more you know like has like a He's like a wooden

like like sticks thing. Yeah But the others just

have, like, straps and stuff like that that are

holding the weapon. Okay, maybe it's Leonardo.

Yeah. Like, Raphael has, like, the Rambo, like,

holster thing. I mean, that's the thing with

their costumes. They're just really busy. There's

a lot there. Right. The other thing, too, with

Splinter is, you know, we mentioned how there's

really no connection with Shredder, you know,

how he learns martial arts. And in this, he learns

martial arts through reading a book. I get it

like you can learn more shorts on your own I

guess but. More books seems a little bit far

fetched a bit and you know like the reason he

does it is because they're too involved in like

pop culture and stuff like that and that to me

is less satisfying of a reasoning like. Oh just

as it you know they learn martial arts as a distraction

and then like they're being some sort of no point

to it or like they're having some sort of idea

of honor or whatever it may be here they're just

like you know we needed a hobby so we learned

to be ninjas there's another thing that uh you

talked about how they just like do something

and then forget about it so they did that with

the shell and then with rafael shell and then

they forget about it so there's like Entire sequences

in the first half of the movie where April is

trying to tell everybody she knows about the

turtles Like she is trying to tell her boss.

She's trying to tell all of the people at the

the station She's trying to tell everybody she

can tell and then apparently that didn't happen

because at the end like there's this whole like

sentimental moment where they're like thanking

the turtles are thanking April for not telling

anyone when she could have I was I was very thrown

off by that. I was like, maybe I watched the

wrong movie. Like I don't I swear she was trying

to tell everybody and their brother about this.

And now you're like acting like she didn't. That

was weird to me. The other thing was I did learn

something from this film, and that is you can

lose like almost all of the blood in your body.

But if somebody gives you some adrenaline, you're

fine. Yes, adrenaline is the key. Always. You

don't need to get any of that blood back. You

can just. Go kick ass like if you got some internal

so that was interesting. So obviously pizza is

a thing with the turtles franchise like it's

been there since For as long as I can remember

and there is product placement in the original

live -action films with the whole delivery and

you know It's free because you can't get it through

the sewer grate in time or whatever that I didn't

mind the Pizza hut product placement in this

film is so Ridiculously heavy -handed to the

point where it's a freaking commercial almost

yeah They go they go to town on like explaining

why that pizza that slice of pizza so good and

like and then and then the So so there was probably

pizza that came out that was connected to this

movie There was probably like a special recipe

or whatever But he's going and he's naming like

all of the cheeses and whatnot And then some

of it's just blatant nonsense like stuff that

doesn't even exist in the pizza hut world So

it's like, oh, it's got this cheese. I'm like,

no, they've never had that cheese. But it was

so heavy handed. It was such, it actually became

a commercial and it was really off -putting to

me. And I did not like that at all. So that was

another note I had. Anything else that story

-wise, plot -wise, or anything like that that

you wanted to get off your chest that you didn't

like about this one? I've been really negative

about this. You know it's one thing for a Teenage

Mutant Ninja Turtles 3 to not be successful,

it's just when they don't have much of a budget

they're just trying to make it work. This thing

was so over bloated with everything. The other

piece I didn't talk about was I found the sound

design in this so aggressive and everyone sounded

like a transformer. Everyone had the same type

of sound effect and everything and it was just

always in your face and always unnecessary. But

again, they're ninjas. So if you like it never

really came across that way per se. So it somehow

did really well at the box office. I mean, all

the Transformers films, I guess. But the budget

was like one hundred and twenty five hundred

fifty somewhere in that range and I'm almost

at five hundred. So obviously did well at the

box office from a financial standpoint. Not so

well when it comes to any sort of. Review or

critical response currently has if this is up

-to -date currently has a 21 % run tomatoes Not

a lot of positive things. There's you can go

online and read like a hundred terrible reviews

about this It was nominated for some golden raspberries

As well as some kids choice awards because that's

always a thing. Yeah, the golden raspberry nominations

for worst picture worst prequel remake ripoff

or sequel worst director worse screenplay were

supported actress Which Megan Fox did win? Yeah,

I get I feel like Like I said, I feel like she

was just set up to for failure and that's it

Just it doesn't wasn't she's been good in some

stuff like Jennifer's body and I think she's

you know, if you put in the right roles you can

You know, she can work but in this it's just

like she's not the type of actress to like command

the screen When everything around her is like

artificial. Yeah, and it's just too It's like

there's so many different moving parts that it's

like who like you said is it is this April O

'Neill's movie? Is it the turtles movie is it

you know, like who's the focus? I mean we have

shredder. It's definitely not his movie You know,

we have the whole thing with Eric Sachs and April

O 'Neill is dead and a lot of April O 'Neill

ask things So it's kind of like I just don't

understand like it this this to me was I don't

know how this was written. I don't know. There's

like three different writers attached to it.

That's fine. But this to me Is what i think about

when they talk about like michael bay getting

like a writing room together or like assembling

like a panel of groups are like a room full of

people to get ideas like. I can't imagine one

person by themselves. Creating this movie as

it is like it just seems so disjointed that there

had to be ideas coming from multiple people that

was just like yeah we can make that work yeah

we can fit that in there yeah we can do that

and i just does not work together. Like I said

it feels like there's a lot either missing or

like edited or like adjusted on the fly or you

know whatever it may be like they're just because

you look at it like I can't even point to a character

that had development like who was different at

the beginning at the end I guess maybe April

because. She's no longer chasing to become a

real reporter which seems like not the type of

development you want like I don't know it just

seems like nothing I mean I guess the really

like rafael being. More of a rebel or something

like that. I guess but it doesn't even that come

to a great resolution There's just like you said

you don't know whose movie this is because at

first April's but then once things start getting

going she's lost but also putting her in the

action I felt very forced like to try to make

like I think that's something the early Turtles

films did was you know April had her role She

played it well, but they didn't force her into

scenes that she didn't need to be in this like

that like Megan Fox always has to be there And

I don't think it's necessary. I will say, and

I haven't really said much positive, I do think

when it comes to the personality of the turtles,

voice acting aside, I do think they did that

pretty well. The turtles feel like the turtles.

It's not that hard. They're archetypes, so you

can't really mess that up. Although, like we

mentioned, sometimes they have. They just don't

get that many opportunities to be the turtles.

We don't get those character moments. The only

thing we get is like that one small scene of

them going up the elevator Yeah, you know what

they start like, you know beatboxing like that

was that was it and that was a nice moment But

then it's like yes, you know Then we're gonna

go fight Transformers Super Shredder who you

know puts like Kevin Ash to shame I guess because

he's like five to ten feet taller than he's like

the Yeti They must have been the guy that was

the Yeti. Yeah The other thing they did is they

tried to make everybody in the movie have a crush

on April O 'Neil. Yeah, again, that's always

weird to me. Like not just Verne or whatever

his name is, but the turtles, Michelangelo especially,

is like a big thing. So that's weird. It was

interesting watching this post -pandemic, I guess

for some sick way because they're actually, the

plot is... Unleashing a pandemic and they talk

about quarantine and stuff like that. And I was

like, oh that Has a whole different meaning these

days. So yeah, that was interesting. But yeah,

I am NOT a big fan of this film I do remember

enjoying the elevator scene. Like I said, Michelangelo

I think is good. I think you're right with the

depiction of the Turtles, I think will our nets

fine? Everything else is bad about this movie.

Yeah, it's it's so I was hoping they come maybe

Maybe it wasn't wrong. Maybe it was just too

harsh about it when I watched it originally.

I think I liked it less this time. Yeah, I did

too. And I kind of went into this not remembering

how much I disliked it to the point. I remember

like, oh, this was like a movie, but I forgot

that it had actual things that made me mad. Yeah.

It's just so sloppily done. I guess it just feels

like there was no thought put behind things.

It was just a random like, let's do this and

then do this and do this. Right. And then, like,

this sounds cool, this will be interesting, like,

let's do something different and new, like, oh,

we'll do this different. I'm OK with changing

things, but, like, the changes kind of didn't

make any sense or they were kind of silly. And

then they didn't necessarily lead to anything

different. So I don't know. I feel like we've

kind of been this bad dead horse. Yeah, for sure.

So there's another live action film that follows

this one. It comes out two years later in 2016.

That one's called Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

out of the shadows and just as a sneak peek.

I don't remember this one at all. I don't remember

what my opinion was of this one. I'm sure I saw

it because I'm pretty sure I have not. I've only

watched the beginning of it. Like, I remember

people saying, actually, it's better. It's good.

I didn't see it in theaters because I had no

I wasn't podcasting at that time, I don't think,

or I wasn't. And then I've like, attempted to

watch it like a couple of times and have always

fallen asleep. Now, that's not necessarily the

movie's fault. I'm really good at sleeping. So,

um, uh, we'll see, you know, when I, so I'm kind

of interested to see, like, is it better? It'd

be hard to be worse. So I'm hoping, I'm hoping

for some improvement. I'm, I'm intrigued just

because it's going to be one of those where I

sit down to watch it. And then that's when I'm

going to know for sure if I'd seen it before

or not. And right now I'm like, I thought I saw

this in the theater, but I'm reading the, the

main plot synopsis, which basically says that,

uh, Follows the ninja turtles who after defeating

the shredder must face an even bigger foe the

dreaded crying I am intrigued to see if this

2016 is any better or not and if you guys want

to know what our thoughts are on that one you'll

have to tune into our next episode when we do

cover Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles out of the

shadows the 2016 live -action film then we'll

have a couple more animated films to cover before

we catch up and get ready for The film coming

out in just a little bit here this year so dan

anything else that you're doing right now as

far as uh Things that people can keep an eye

out if they want to hear more of your opinions

on stuff Oh, you can just find me a comic con

to the ears on twitter tiktok instagram is where

I put most of my stuff Also on that new threads

thing, which I it's just like twitter But just

I don't know it seems kind of stupid. I don't

know why we need another one, but I guess twitter

is just Going downhill so anyways, but yeah comic

concierge and all those social media platforms

you can find me And you can search me out at

either optimus solo or you can check out my youtube

channel geek showcase You can also check out

the main website geek cast radio Network for

any other geek related topics that mike or steve

or anybody else that they have going on is putting

out lots of geeky topics cartoons Comic book

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medias and the main website as well And that

does it for this episode of Cinema Geeks. We'll

be back next time to talk more.