Talking in Circles
Super Bowl 50: Broncos vs Panthers Predictions

About this Episode
Hi, this is Dan Gilbazan, and you're listening
to the Geekcast Radio Network. You are now on
the inside of what I like to call the circle
of trust. We are all connected in a great circle
of life. You know something, Bert? I think you
and I are going in circles. It feels like we're
going in circles. The Circle is now complete.
When I left you, I was but the third. Now I am
the last. Because it's a circle. Yeah, we heard
about the circle. Yes, we're familiar with shapes.
Hi, this is Chuck. This is Greg. And this is
Dan. We are Talking of Circles brought to you
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giving you a special super mini bowl episode.
Yes. In lieu of the big game that's coming this
weekend, we thought we would do a little of a
special episode where we talk sports for a good
10 minutes, because we know sometimes it's all
geeks can handle, but we're gonna give it its
own special due. So we're just gonna give our
thoughts on who we want to win, our predictions,
all that great stuff. So, uh, let's kind of just,
you know, we have the Broncos, we have the Panthers.
I don't think any of us are fans of either team,
if I'm not mistaken. I know, I mean, we have
some Peyton Manning fans, of course. Of course.
Can't have some Peyton fans. So going into this,
I mean, it's always good to have a team to root
for. Do you guys have what team you kind of want
to win? I'm just happy that the Patriots are
not in it. So you're just hoping that the Patriots
lose again, is what you're saying? Yes. You just
want a webcam of Tom Brady with his hand on his
head on his couch. Yep, pretty much. And his
wife. Yes, and still trying to unsuccessfully
high -five someone You see they see like him
holding his hand up the dogs walking away from
Shaking his head Poor Tom Brady I'm also extremely
happy that the Patriots aren't in it Does that
make it any worse though when there's not like
the team? You really don't want to win does it
make it any more like you you know? No, I'd rather
them not even have a chance of winning I'm I
would say I know it's weird, but probably once
the Dolphins are kind of not relevant anymore,
I would say I kind of cheer for the Broncos a
little bit. And that's mostly because of Peyton.
He's been one of my favorite players throughout
his whole career. So I'm really happy that he's
there and I'm pretty sure this is going to be
his last game. So I'm kind of hoping that he
goes out on top. Yeah, that's what I'm kind of
hoping for, too. Yeah, so you're thinking the
same thing, Greg? Yeah, kind of. I'd be kind
of interested to see the Panthers win, too, because
they have not been really spectacular at all.
So I'd like to see them win just because they
haven't done much. But I'd like to see Payton
go out on a high note. I mean, I wouldn't mind
seeing the Panthers win to see another franchise
win a Super Bowl before the Eagles. So I don't
know what I'd throw that out there for. I guess
I'm kind of ruined for Peyton, too, seeing him
go out the swan song, as you guys say. There
is something about the Panthers I'm not a big
fan of. It might be residuals from their Giants
game that they went over. And yeah, yeah. Yeah,
you guys played them well, though, in that game,
I think. What did you lose by only three points,
I think, right? Yeah, the last minute field goal,
because the Giants can't stop anyone. going to
that game, what I find interesting though is,
because the week after that, that's when they
lost their first game to the Falcons. And I do
think they kind of exposed them a little bit
because the Giants were able to run the ball
on them and the Giants weren't able to run the
ball on anybody at all the entire season. So,
you know, to me, that's like the key to the Patriots,
to the Panthers, sorry, that's the key to the
Broncos winning, I think, is that it's not actually
gonna be. Peyton, but I think it's going to be
them being able to get that running game going,
because if Peyton Manning is just going to be
stuck back there, you know, throwing all the
time, I don't know if that o -line is going to
be able to hold up against the Panthers. I don't
know. What are your thoughts on that, Chuck?
I would tend to agree, although I think, I kind
of think Peyton Manning has one kind of magical
game left in the tank. Like, he's been saving
up. Everybody knows he hasn't really had the
best season. He was hurt for quite a while. Several
weeks he was out. His bench, sure. I mean, I
guess not. Not on a bench, but at least he was
on the sidelines, even when he was kind of healthy.
Yeah. I mean, the other guy Osweiler was playing
pretty well, but I think they wanted to give
Payton some extra rest. But, I mean, you can
see it when you watch him. He just kind of has
lost a little bit of the touch. And I kind of
remember from like watching Marino in his final
year, like you could just see it, you know, like
he's trying to force it into those windows where
he could when he was younger, but it's just kind
of not going there. And you can see kind of Peyton's
just losing it a little bit. And, you know, it
sucks because he's been so amazing his whole
career and you just expect him to be like a machine.
But I think I think he's got one. really solid
game left in the tank because he hasn't really
had a breakout game this year where he's, you
know, been statistically dominant or anything.
It's been really, really quiet year for him.
So is Greg going to test because I think that
was your quarterback in fantasy, if I'm not mistaken.
Oh, yeah. He killed me in the entire fantasy
season. It was tragic. If he does end up winning
this the Super Bowl, he ends up. You know having
that game that you think he has chuck maybe getting
the super bowl and bvp Does that completely cement
him as the best quarterback of his generation?
I mean maybe to some people but I to the majority
people. I don't think it will because They're
going to be they're going to be saying that brady
has four you know, and Honestly, I don't measure
a quarterback by super bowl victories. I mean,
it's It's the ultimate it's the ultimate team
accomplishment I mean, obviously it is a good
measuring stick showing that you can win the
big game and everything, but it's it's not everything.
And I know if I were taking a team, I would pick
Peyton. But I think to me already, he's, you
know, probably a top three all time quarterback
for me. This this game really won't have too
much effect on my opinion on that, which is similar
to I was watching the Dan Patrick show the other
day and they were actually they had Dan Marino
on and he kind of said the same thing like he
he views Peyton as one of the best ever and this
game is really not going to change his perception
no matter what happens because he's already proven
so much but like Dan said play in the game he
knows what he's looking at as far as a Hall of
Fame quarterback and he said your average fan
tends to look at stats and wins and things like
that as more of a measuring stick but he said
you know you know what you're looking at when
you see greatness and when you're familiar with
the game and stuff like that so I kind of go
more along those lines Yeah, not that I was a
great quarterback, but yeah, I'm just saying
like I know. Yeah, he's yeah, Dan Reno. I think,
you know, you know, he might know a thing or
two about football. Oh, yeah. I can I can kind
of not that I'm someone to override the saying
of a, you know, one of the best quarterbacks
ever. But I do think when you're looking at like
the best of the best, even if it's just for the
generation, there are those little parameters
you have to look for, because, you know, Brady
has had. just as good of, you know, single seasons
as Manning, of course, like 2008, like he had
one of the best years ever. I don't necessarily
think Super Bowl wins per se, but I do think
how you show up in big games does matter. I think,
and Peyton has showed up in some big games, but
he's also lost two Super Bowls. One, he was,
you know, he had an okay showing. The other one,
like, obviously he had no time and he was getting
killed by Seattle, but. I know that's kind of
been a knock on him for quite some time that
he kind of folds under pressure where, you know,
Eli Manning, maybe his numbness to the situation,
he tends to thrive in the big spot. So if he
has another horrible game, would that hurt him?
I don't think so, since it's kind of a weird
year. He's up there. It's obviously not the Peyton
Manning we know. But I do think if he's able
to go against that... Mantra of being of choking
and I think most people don't think he has it
in him So if he's able to overcome that and it's
like do like a John way and John Elway type of
performance last game I think that will kind
of make him bar none the best quarterback will
the people that say Brady and I think yeah I
think Brady certainly I guess it depends on what
you're looking for But both are I will say I
know we're talking about Super Bowl wins at this
exact moment, but I will say head -to -head in
the playoffs Peyton has won three out of the
five meetings versus Brady Yeah, it was it was
Peyton's won three and only lost two so I think
he only lost the first two right and then he
went on because I remember The it was like the
two I think one of them or at least two obviously
the two years ago when they went on to play Seattle
he beat Brady in the championship game and then
Believe the one yeah the one when he was in with
the Colts. I think when they won the Super Bowl
against the Bears Finally we can close us up
by just giving our predictions on who we feel
is gonna win this Greg Who do you think is going
to end up? Becoming the new Super Bowl champion
it usually happens where the team that I route
to wait for to win usually loses. So I'm going
to say that the Panthers are going to win. Because
I'd really like to see Peyton go out on a high
take it. And I think they have kind of the momentum
going to take it even though I haven't really
watched football since I got destroyed in fantasy.
Chuck, thoughts? I think people saw what happened
when Carolina played Arizona and just blew them
out. And I think everyone's expecting that to
happen in this game. I just hear a lot of people,
I think Carolina's gonna kill them. They're gonna
kill them. They're gonna run all over them. And
I just, I don't think that's the case. The Arizona
debacle was like a It was just a weird situation
It's one of those things of like the anatomy
of a blowout sort of like how it unfolds like
things just keeps snowballing and it's like when
the Giants beat the Vikings like 41 to nothing
in the Championship game and right people thought
like oh they're gonna do great against the those
Ravens and I forget that Super Bowl never happened
Right, but that's an excellent point. That's
a great example because I think And it's all
about matchups. Just because a team does something
against one team doesn't mean they're going to
duplicate that against another. And the Broncos
defense is a totally different animal than the
Cardinals defense. For those that don't know,
Denver has had the number one defense all season
long by far. They're a shut down defense, pass
coverage against the run, rushing the pass or
everything. They're exceptional defense this
year. I look back to two years ago when sort
of the roles were reversed because the Broncos
had the number one offense in NFL history heading
into the game against the Seahawks who had the
number one defense that season and the defense
ended up winning out in that circumstance. They
shut down the best offense of all time and the
game ended up being a blowout. for Seattle, but
I'm looking at this game and thinking about Denver's
defense, if they could get a couple of key plays.
You know, Carolina's had a couple of close games
this year, but I feel like they're due for some
mistakes. You know, I don't know if they've faced
a whole ton of adversity. And I think if if Denver's
defense kind of smells blood in the water, they're
going to they're just going to go after. Kim
Newton even even harder. I mean, if you watch
that New England game, they absolutely destroyed
Brady like every play they were like hitting
him. I mean, they were right in his face immediately.
Had like no time to throw. I apparently should
have watched that game. I was going to say, how
many have you watched that game over and over
again? Just like, you know, there's a have it
as a screen saver on your computer. No, I have
various women as my screen. So Brady would fit
in then. Well, like his hand on his wife's shoulder,
like badly photoshopped in as would probably
be. Caroline is a great team. They're a great
rushing team. And I just give a slight edge to
Denver. I think I'm I'm actually going to pick
a score. I think I'm going to go twenty nine,
twenty three Denver. Interesting. Yeah, I think
it's gonna be a super low -scoring game. So it's
kind of probably be really high -scoring Just
because Like you said with the Denver defense,
like if I look at the Carolina Panthers offensive
weapons, yeah Kim Newton is like insane that
team has Survived simply based on him because
you look at this is why receivers his best five
receivers tend to tune Tedkin jr So that's insane.
I mean these I think so it's gonna be a lot of
you know, King Greg Olsen exploit Linebackers
possibly if the Denver Broncos can get the running
game going, you know, what they've had trouble
with all year I think it's gonna it's gonna help
paint it out a lot or if they can get the short
quick pass passes going because I think that
if Peyton stays back there, you know, it gets
hammered like Brady did last week or two weeks
ago. It's gonna it's gonna be tough for them
So I think it's gonna be like a 13 -10 type of
game a field goal game very much field position
Mike got just wondering if this is Cam Newton's
year, if simply that. Yeah, the Broncos are a
great defense, but Cam Newton has a tendency
to just find a way to win. So I don't know, I've
gone back and forth, but I'm leaning towards
the Panthers. I think their defense is better
than the offense of the Broncos at the point,
moment in time, but I think it'll be interesting.
I don't know, I'm just rambling right now. I
agree with you, I think. Caroline has a little
bit more of a rounded team a well -rounded team
Offense and defense. Obviously they had to to
go 15 and one throughout the regular season.
That was impressive I do want to comment on that
then being 15 and one can we also make? It seems
to not be pointing out the fact that they played
like one of the easiest schedules in the history
of the NFL. Oh, absolutely They played the NFC
East they played in the AFC South one of the
worst divisions They play the NFC East was one
of the worst divisions and they played the AFC
South one of the worst divisions and right so
it's like Come on now. And they had some tough
games. I mean, obviously we talked about your
Giants. The Saints gave them a really close game,
the one week. And then eventually they lost to
the Falcons. Yeah. So I think Julio Jones did
show that I think their corners, the Panthers,
maybe not as good as they think they are. I mean,
Julio Jones is a beast. Yeah. But so was Demetrius
Thomas and Manuel Sanders. Yeah, that's what
I mean. If Peyton is on in this game, if he could
dig down deep and get on, I don't know. That
Panthers D is in a little trouble. So it just
depends. It depends if Peyton's got enough in
the tank there, I think. I don't know. I have
more question marks for the the Broncos and I
do the Panthers. Yeah Well, they're they're offenses
sputtered all year kind of and I know to like
Greg had Peyton Manning on his fantasy team But
I had CJ keeps rubbing that in Well, I'm just
saying because to relate to me because I had
Ronnie Hillman and CJ Anderson All year and they
totally screwed me all year long. Yeah Yeah,
I had to do Anderson in a league two and first
first or second round draft pick and then to
not go well so and it was I got to the point
where i'm like all right i'll pick up hillman
as a handcuff and So then I got to the point
where i'm, you know starting one of them and
the other one would do better no matter who I
picked So it's really starting to piss me off.
But yeah Yeah, they had a rough year. Yeah, so
we'll we'll see we'll see i'm looking forward
to it But I'm sure that a lot of geeks are like,
I don't care about the game. I just watch the
commercials, but I don't. So for the for the
real question, what what kind of food are you
guys going to be eating? I usually keep it simple.
I'm probably we're going to actually look at
maybe making some stamboli and doing some. I
have a really easy recipe for hot wing dip. It
takes like a total of maybe 15 minutes to put
together, put together 45 minutes to cook and
you're good to go. Nice. What about you guys?
I have no idea what I'm having. I've been trying
to diet and exercise a lot more lately, so I
have no idea. Greg's having avocado and baked
chips. I like avocados. I like guac. Some avocado
and hummus, you know? It's $1 .80 extra. He knows
it's extra. It's delicious avocado. We'll probably
keep it simple, too. Probably get a... Pizza
and wings from a local place here. Maybe have
some hot wing dip and stuff like that. But uh
The classic stuff, you know one thing I'll I'll
mention about um, I Don't know if you guys are
participating any sort of prop bets or anything
this year There's a there's a guy that I work
with that's kind of running a pool where he made
up a sheet and it's like it's like 23 questions
they're all like prop bets and it was a couple
bucks to go in and It's just a big fun thing.
I don't know how many people are in it this year,
but It's you know, like the over under on the
national anthems like two minutes and three seconds,
you know Who's singing at this year? Lady Gaga
actually. Okay. Is there like what type of egg?
type of dress will she be wearing like No, nothing
like that, but it was funny I was looking at
like The history of the national anthem they
had they said like that the average of the last
10 Super Bowl national anthems was like a minute,
57 seconds or something like that. So I'm like
looking at that and like, all right, I'm going
to go under then on this. There's there's all
kinds of things like most of them are game related,
like, you know, the first core going to be touchdown
or field goal or safety. There's going to be
four turnovers in the game. Yes or no, like.
Peyton Manning will get sacked twice and that,
you know, just weird stuff like that. And they
kind of add up all the points at the end and
see who wins. But it's it's kind of fun just
to what will be the first commercial or anything
like that or whatever. Yeah, there's there's
a couple of things like that. Like the one thing
is what color Gatorade will they dump on the
winning coach? How many times will Peyton Manning
say Omaha? How many times? 57. How many times
will they cut the Eli Manning? How many times
will you see Peyton Manning face? With the dark
triangle on his forehead. The Papa John's logo
that appears on his forehead every game. Awesome.
Alrighty. Well, so that'll be it for this little
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feed. But for now. This has been Chuck or Peyton
Manning going out on top. Hopefully. This is
Greg or Chuck has been taking my lines for some
reason. and chuck just called an audible and
it's been dan and we've been talking in circles
we'll see you next week i guess not next week
but within the few days you know what's interesting
i was listening to that dan marino interview
on dan patrick the other day and uh yeah this
you're saying marino said back when him and elway
were playing each other elway's cadence like
his audible call he would always say orange and
it was like sometimes there was a number after
it or something like orange 90 or whatever but
their their audible thing was orange that he
said that was their Omaha before Omaha so I thought
that was kind of funny
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