Talking in Circles
Oregon Trail, Hulk and the Agents of Smash, and Sequel

About this Episode
Hi, this is Lauren Lester, and you're listening
to the Geekcast Radio Network. You are now on
the inside of what I like to call the circle
of trust. We are all connected in a great circle
of life. You know something, Bert? What? I think
you and I are going in circles. It feels like
we're going in circles. The circle is not complete.
When I left you, I was but the third. Now I am
the last. Because it's a circle. Yeah, we heard
about the circle. Yeah, I swear it really would
change. Hi, this is Greg. This is Chuck. And
this is Dan, and we are Talking in Circles, brought
to you by the ECATS Radio Network, the podcast
that was recently snubbed at the Academy Awards.
some little crap about us not being a movie or
something, I don't know, but it was a bunch of
BS. Now, next year, maybe next year, I do better
campaigning. I don't know. I need to buy a big
billboard or something like that. I just want
to be nominated. That's that's all I just want
to be nominated so I can go there and hang out
with Jennifer Lawrence and Emilia Clarke and
like that's that's the whole reason I want to
go. We need to like start doing some Oscar Brady
things like in here in search storylines of us
like Overcoming different disabilities or something
like that, you know, Greg some adversity tricky.
Yeah Exactly, Greg can get a tricky problem of
like drinking too much Gatorade, but then overcoming
like getting in the parade, you know, it'll be
I am drinking whiskey tonight I'm a little bit
more powerful than the Gatorade. So well that'll
show hell. Yeah apparently all we're all we'll
have to do is just You know, in order to win
best picture, we just have to do poorly at the
box office with respect to all the blockbusters.
Yeah. Or we know what we could do is be like
boyhood and take like 12 years to make a podcast
and then release it. So we'll record like one
minute, one each day for 12 years, and that'll
be the podcast. But besides all that, how's the
week been going for you guys? Pretty good. I
have to say, I got to play one of my favorite
childhood games recently. And no, it's not that.
It's a, it's an old computer game that most of
us anyway, probably remember from elementary
school. And that is of course, Oregon trail.
Nice, nice Oregon trail. Some of us called that
social studies class. It's now online for free.
That is all nice. I spent a couple hours playing
that the the first night that I found out about
it and I made my little party I had you guys
in there and you know Dan and Greg and myself
and One of the ox was killed by Wolverine. Damn
it. Now, unfortunately, I didn't make it to the
end. Oh, Dan, you you ended up dying of cholera
and a broken leg. Just for an insult to injury.
Had to throw the broken leg in there, you know,
fall down, break a leg. Oh, and you have cholera.
It's not enough to have a severe bacterial infection.
And then Greg, you drowned with me while we were
trying to navigate this river on a raft. So at
least I went with a friend. That's all I care
about. Yeah. Yeah. We hit a giant rock and, you
know, crashed and we both drowned. So by the
way, when I was younger, I almost did drown and
then my cousin saved me. Oh, yeah. See. You hear
that, Academy Awards? You hear that? And to add
a little twist to it, this same cousin also claims
that later in life he did it with Christina Aguilera.
So he also died of cholera. Thank you. Nice.
I was thinking that one through as I was saying
it. I'm like, I can totally bring back cholera!
Yes! Connection made! Greg, do you think there's
any chance that when you almost drowned in that
water that there were any weird chemicals in
that water that gave you super swimming powers
or something? Maybe they developed after puberty
or something? I highly doubt it. Can you talk
to fish by any chance? I've tried to talk to
my dad's fish down in this aquarium. They just
go bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop.
That's about it. What about the band fish? Any
better luck? No, sorry. So was Oregon Trail everything
you remembered? Was it as good as you remember?
Yeah. Well, I couldn't remember a lot because
that was from like fourth grade or something.
But no, it was pretty cool because I had forgotten
a lot of the little things in it and like what
happens and everything. could trade with people
and talk with people. What I did find out is
when you hit the option to trade with people,
it's always a really shitty trade for you. You
know, it's like, hey, this guy needs 70 pounds
of food and he's going to give you a wagon wheel.
And I'm like, what the fuck? First of all, I
only have 75 pounds of food and I already have
two wagon wheels. It's like, it's always a bad
trade. So I never trade with people. The trick
is, the trick is to be good at hunting because
then you don't have to spend all your money on
food. You can spend on earth, other stuff. So
like wifi and stuff like that. Yeah. My, my wagon
was its own wifi hotspot. You got to check in
every so often. Yeah. A little, little selfie
with the ox. This takes like 17 hours because
you have to draw it All right, uh greg how's
your week been going you've been playing any
classic games I haven't I was the one that uh
chuck was referring to because I i've Never even
heard of oregon trail until I think I got to
college and met up with you guys and you guys
were talking about your time in school playing
Mid Valley. They never played it for some weird
reason and along the way I've heard of other
people playing that game in school. I don't understand
why my school, we didn't play it. I don't know
why. I did try and play it after Chuck told me
earlier in the week about playing it. And i can
only imagine what that's like you probably like
chuck is a crazy. I was just i got bored halfway
through i'm like i just kept going and going
and i'm like. What is this like i just kept.
I didn't i you know what simple people simple
time it's very different when you're nine years
old. you're like look at that auxin go look at
him 20 years later not as impressive i just didn't
understand it so about part way through i kind
of gave up on it unfortunately and i was like
yeah i'll just go back to whatever i was doing
It's all about killing animals though, that was
always part of it. I think that was the thing
is like you're in school and you're like, I'm
allowed to kill animals while I'm at school.
See, I think if I was going to go do something
like that, I just go pop in Red Dead Redemption
and go shoot out in the woods. Yeah, we couldn't
do that in fourth grade, I did not. Maybe they
do that nowadays probably like, you know kids
now and be like, yeah, we play Red Dead Red Dead
Red Dead Well, they're a little bit more updated
than that. They're playing something else since
they have the PlayStation 4 out Grand Theft Auto
5 probably Well, you can learn about a lot you
can learn about you know economic trading what
it's like to steal cars and have sex with hookers
and kill them for you You do that often Well,
hey for back then Oregon Trail was very educational
game And there was some strategy involved when,
you know, when your health gets poor, you have
to like rest and then everything and adjust your
food rations and all that stuff. But I don't
know. You have to put in like curse words for
the names and find that to be the most hilarious
thing ever when it's like Dick head dies of color
Dick got bit by a rattlesnake That's gotta hurt
snake on snake anything is it still is funny
now as it was back All righty, yeah, my week's
been kind of uneventful I did you are talking
to a co -room ball league champion. We had I
play this thing called boom ball, which is It's
kind of like hockey for less athletic people.
It's, it's played on ice and you don't have skates,
but you're on shoes and you play with like a,
it's like a huge foam ball instead of a puck.
So we had, we had our championship game and we're
kind of stunk though. Cause the league was limited
in the amount of games we could have because
the building that we play in and got like you
had major repairs. So we had one game for the
championship and the issue is we tied. It was
a nothing, nothing game. We couldn't do a shootout,
so it's like, you're just coaching. What? It
was like, yeah, I know. I was like, I feel like
participation trophy. It's like a trip back to
elementary school this week. Weak sauce. I mentioned
the Academy Awards and I did have the opportunity
to watch a movie that was just recently nominated
for an Academy Award. And I think deservingly
so. I wouldn't, I probably wouldn't rank it in
my top 10, but I think I could see why I got
nominated and it's the movie Selma. I don't know
if you guys have heard of this at all. It's about
a hot chick named Selma. Uh, it's very close
to what, it's about Martha Luther King Jr. So
hot chick right off the bat, good. Well, he did
enjoy that. I have heard that, yes. Uh, no, it's
about - He had some dreams. It takes place. About
pooping in a bucket. It takes place during the
civil rights movement and it's enduring. I would
have never guessed Martin Luther King I know
right it's called someone because it's about
this event that take took place in Selma, Alabama
where Martin Luther King jr. And his followers
traveled there to try to Rally for the Voters
Rights Act at that time. They did have the right
to vote But because of different regulations
that were put in place basically, you know African
-americans were able to vote so they went to
some Alabama to try to rally and get Pressure
the government especially in a Lyndon B. Johnson
at the time to pass this law passed laws to kind
of allow them to get the vote That's like the
central issue that it's like that said the event
that it's a trans on or centers on I should say
but it also gets into kind of just Martin Luther
King jr. In general in his life and what's kind
of interesting is that? There aren't really many
at all movies about Martha Luther King jr. You
documentaries or movies at all and it's kind
of like equate Selma a lot to Lincoln. I don't
know if you guys saw Lincoln at all, but it's
not like a biopic where it covers his entire
life. It's more just this one event in the process
of it. But you do get to learn a lot. And I think
what Selma does really well, it really humanizes
the character of Martin Luther King Jr. in a
way that really has not been done before. You
see him in ways that you really never have. And
when you think about it, like... I'm not Martin
Luther King jr. Someone who the footage we see
is always of him speaking You don't really see
many personal moments in this movie is full of
them. You kind of see him in Like ways we wouldn't
expect like he's very Questions a lot of what
he's doing. He has a lot of self -doubt You see
that he's not a perfect person like you see that,
you know There were some issues with his man
marriage and possible infidelity that took place
and I think what's interesting about it is that
That doesn't really demonize him or make you
respect him any less. It's more so just makes
him more of a human being, which was interesting.
The guy who plays him, David E. Yellow. Oh, does
a pizza plate. He did. He did. Uh, he he's actually
a British actor, but he was fantastic. He was,
it sounds cliche, but like you. Feel like you
are watching Martin Luther King jr. But not like
an impression sometimes when you see a movie
and it's about a historical figure you get stuck
doing kind of like a Impression of that figure
and you can never get around that and you can
never really get to in a true performance But
I think he really does and he doesn't remarkable
jobs actually surrounded by a lot of good performances
And I know people hate her and I think she can
be annoying but there is a small role for Oprah
in this and She I know I know but she is a legit
actress like she she's not she doesn't have a
huge role what the role she does have in the
scene she does have is actually one of the one
of the better scenes in the movie and What's
interesting to it? It goes through the process
of why they picked some Alabama and the reasoning
behind it it's and it's interesting because there's
a lot of political choices that were made like
some Alabama was picked on purpose because they
knew that the sheriff there was a bigot and he
was very uh prone to violence so that would help
their cause because they needed in order for
this to change they knew it wouldn't change internally
the change had to come externally so they needed
to rally uh and get People on their side and
to do that was through nonviolent protests. And
then if those protests are then attacked through
violent Reaction through the police. It's it
can rally people outside of the Selma, Alabama,
especially the president. So it's interesting
how they Would position themselves like this
and they even make a statement that there was
a cause that they had in a rally that they had
in like Albany and how it didn't work because
the sheriff there was intelligent and treated
them humanely. So no one really paid attention.
So it's kind of interesting in that aspect. We
don't even think about that was something they
actually needed in order for their cause to,
you know, really gain, gain steam. So it's, it
goes through how the entire event. And, uh, it's
really good. I mean, I know some people had some
issues with the way it treated Lyndon B. Johnson,
because he makes them out to be maybe a little
bit harsh. There's say argue a little harsh on
him. And when it comes to the civil rights, but
Think overall the LBJ does the light that is
shine on him is mostly positive It's more so
there is like a back -and -forth between him
and Martin Luther King and they have Kind of
debates on how exactly they should get this footage
right back, but you know LBJ telling him to wait
that he'll do it but he can't do it now because
of Different political issues and they're saying
they can't wait. So is this it's good back and
forth between Martin Luther King Jr. and Lyndon
B. Johnson. And I think I've gone through and
I've actually looked up some of the historical
accuracy of it. And it's pretty accurate for
the moment. There isn't much change throughout.
It is the type of movie someone's going to say
people are just going to nominate for best picture
because of the salvage commander and I could
see that but it's also Executed really well like
I don't think it's nearly as good as something
like 12 years of slave But it's it's well acted
well performed well directed. Uh, it's all movie
I think I liked it better than lincoln, but uh,
it's definitely a downer. So But in again downer
but inspirational too. I should say so I would
definitely uh Recommend it. It's one of the few
movies my wife and I've actually agreed on this
year So we've like agreed on nothing else except
for like this and if you so Dan what would I
know you mentioned about like they're not being
many Movies about Martin Luther King jr. Like
what are some other ones because I've never really
heard of any either. I Can't even think of any
honestly. I was looking them up and I couldn't
there's not much of any I guess what part of
it is the king state is very particular on giving
out right They weren't allowed to use his actual
speeches. They want to let them use the actual
word. So I can't even think honestly of one other
movie that covers the life of Martin Luther King
Jr. like this or at all, really. So this one
kind of by default becomes the definitive, I
guess, theatrical story. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're
like we have Malcolm X where I think he, you
know, there's Ratchet on Martin Luther King Jr.
but like nothing that really focuses on him.
And I don't know why that is. I don't know if
it's just such that people are. Afraid to approach
that because there's so much like responsibility
there or it's because of the family themselves
where they don't They're very protective on one
information. They let people the family's just
racist. We all know it Well, I do know like Steven
Spielberg was also working on something Martin
Luther King Jr. Related so and interesting enough
it is yes when this is released the day before
this is released it is Martin Luther King Jr.
Jr. Day, so We all get the day except for me,
you know But uh, yeah, I would recommend it.
I do think it's a solid film I don't know if
I like I said, I don't know if I'd call it like
the best movie of the year I think there's movies
I thought were overall better But it's a it's
certainly an important film and it's worthy of
its accolades I would say if anything, I think
it could have got a few more at the Academy Awards
I think it like give it or oh, yeah, they oh,
yeah. Oh should have happened It is weird yeah,
I know you know it's weird though It is weird
when you see someone from the new kids on the
block play Martin Luther King jr.. But you don't
question it. You just go with it Just go with
it. Hey if Donnie Walberg wants to play that
character you just Jenna Jameson wants to play
the wife She married to one of them yeah, Donnie
I need to keep I thought that was I thought he
was married to Jenny McCarthy. Oh, yes, Jenny
McCarthy in my bed. Oh, yeah Same difference.
I don't know if you might I'm from Colorado cuz
you know the whole not giving you music So keep
keeping that theme going. But Greg, since this
has been kind of a downer movie, I apologize.
We don't necessarily cover films like this, but
it was worth discussing. What are you keeping
up to anything? Any watching? Well, I discovered
on Netflix that Netflix has one of the newer
Marvel cartoons out and that is the Hulk and
the Asians of Smash, which if you ask me, it
was quite possibly the best. animated stuff since
the 90s X -Men for Marvel to come out with. I'm
not saying that it's better than that, but I
thought it was really good. That's lofty praise.
Yeah, the animation was really good. The voice
work was pretty good. The stories are interesting
and they change it up a lot. So far, they did
a version of Planet of the Hulk where the leader
was the leader of Scar it's a car. Yeah, so they
definitely changed things up a lot from the comic
books But for some reason I really didn't mind
it too much It kind of worked for me the the
way that the storyline was going And it's a lot
of fun. They kind of do little interviews. They
do it kind of like a reality show where they
have like a nice background behind them and they
kind of talk about what's going on and everything
for a bombs webcam show for kind of like a YouTube
internet type of viewing the office. Yeah. Yeah.
And so it kind of gives it a nice. update modern
type of take on everything. It's a hulk with
brain power, so he's intelligent. It's got red
hulk, it's got a bomb, it's got scar, and then
their pet is devil dinosaur, which is kind of
interesting. But it's, it's a lot of fun. They've
got a lot of elements in there for kids. It gets
kind of a little goofy sometimes, but then they
have like all these references in there to that
adults would get. Like there was a reference
to Hal from 2001 going on. Why are you going
to shut me off, A -bomb? And so it's got one
of those things where it's for adults and kids,
makes a lot of animated stuff popular and really
accessible to everybody. So I thought it was
a really great take on it. And of course, there's
Stan Lee popping in every once in a while. He's
the mayor of the town that kind of is the only
town that praises the Hulk. And throughout the
whole thing, the point of the webcam show is
to show Hulk in a lighter light so people don't
think he's a monster. And you get some great
appearances by villains that you don't really
expect. It's just not like the leader, even though
he's in there and he kind of follows through
the whole season. You also get abomination. You
get Soran. You get... Yeah, Soran is in there.
That was one of the weirder ones, I thought,
that made an appearance in the show. And who
else was there? There were some interesting different
characters in there. And I like that also it
kind of went a little bit meta. There was a point
in the show where Abam says that he's dating
celebrity, super sexy celebrity Eliza Dusku,
and Eliza Dusku does the voice of She -Hulk.
So yeah, and they like he had a picture of her
in his wallet, like of them on vacation, a bomb
and Eliza Dushku. And she does the voice of She
-Hulk. And so that was kind of fun. And then
they they do team up with a bunch of your favorite
heroes. They team up with Spider -Man and they
team up with the version of Spider -Man that
is also the cartoon version that I also did enjoy.
and they team up with Guardians of the Galaxy.
That was probably around the time that the movie
was coming out, I'm assuming. It definitely adds
a lot of great stuff in there, and it was a lot
of fun, different take on it. And one of the
interesting things is one of the creative consultants
on this show is Dini, who did a lot of work and
a lot of writing on the 90s Batman animated series,
and he's one of the ones that made that show
so popular back in the day. So I think that's
a great get for Marvel to have on the show. So
when you say Spider -Man, does that take place
in the same universe as the other Spider -Man,
like Ultimate Spider -Man cartoon that's going
on? Yes, exactly. Because then you get Fury in
there every once in a while and he's mostly a
voice on camera and like through an intercom
system bossing around the Hulk sometimes. That's
a pretty funny show to the Spider -Man one. Yeah
sarcastic with his comments and stuff. Yeah,
and they also tie in supposedly to the Avengers
Show that is that is on as well Okay, I tried
it. I watched like the first 15 minutes of the
first like Avengers assemble one I was not digging
it that much, but would you say so? Hulk agents
is match is better than all those I'd say that
the Hulk is a little bit above the Spider -Man
I think just a little bit but I think that's
because I enjoy Hulk a little bit more than Spider
-Man just in general and I haven't really seen
I remember the just slightly older Avengers one
I haven't watched the the new newest one I don't
think but it's it's tough because I'm getting
those confused because they had a weird reboot
thing going on so yeah is it Is this hulk agents
of smash better than like the hulk show from
the 90s? Oh, yeah, definitely It is it is much
better than that one. But other than that, I
just watched I started watching um Season three
a game of thrones. I didn't get to finish it
in time for for the podcast But I I am definitely
enjoying it as much as the other seasons Khaleesi
still is The most awesome character and being
completely badass with how she is taking care
of everything and of course as you may all know
listening to this she is freaking absolutely
gorgeous and in this season as well as in real
life and everything it's it's What and there's
a lot of characters coming in and it's just amazing
for all these new characters coming in and they're
still keeping it interesting and it's very There's
a lot of stuff going on and I'm kind of sad in
the the latest Blu -ray package of the collection
for season 3 they did not give me a list of characters
like they did in the first season I'm like you
bastards that made it so nice to follow on everybody
Yeah, they do have like idea of an iPad because
they have like an app I think that you could
I do not have an iPad but I could probably look
up like a Game of Thrones wiki or something to
to keep up with that. I was gonna ask is Like,
I know it's been a while since you watched season
two, if it was difficult getting into. Because
it's not a show that's like going to slow down.
It's like, yep, you're going to have to remember.
Yeah, it wasn't too, too bad. I kind of remember
faces more than names. So I know I can. I think
I remember like four or five different names.
Yeah, yeah, like Kogar, Khaleesi, Tyron Lannister,
which there was an awesome thing with him. kind
of a love triangle, I guess you would say, going
on, but not really. Have you gotten to the red
wedding episode yet? I don't think I have gotten
to the red wedding. I think I know which character
that might involve, but I don't think I have
gotten to that. I'm interested in seeing your
reaction to that episode. You can cut this part
out cuz I I don't want to reveal anything to
anybody but is it the the marriage between Tyron
Lannister and Redheaded Stark girl, is that the
red wedding or talking about the lady in red
who's like a witch or something? Okay, okay,
I didn't I did not see that part then you'll
you'll know it when you see it and the definitely
the good characters that I enjoyed in the first
couple of seasons. I'm still enjoying now. And
I'm also enjoying some different relationships
that are developing throughout, especially Jamie
Lannister. I've been enjoying his development
a lot more. And I've also been enjoying Jon Snow's
love interest. I think that... The girl that
plays that character is great and does an excellent
job. And she is also quite gorgeous as well.
Still doesn't beat out Emilia Clarke, but...
Have you get to watch the South Park episode?
Yeah, I still haven't seen that one, Dan. I'm
sorry. I would say get through Game of Thrones
before you watch it because it not ruins it in
a bad way, but it's just like... It makes you
look at it a whole lot. Did season 4 come out
on Blu -ray yet? I have no idea. I think it's
out. It probably is. The new season is coming
out soon, so it usually comes out a few weeks
before the new premiere. But Game of Thrones,
if you still haven't gotten into it, I highly
recommend it. It's got a lot of great stuff,
got a lot of great character work. Uh development
and it makes me sad that I am probably doing
such a horrible job with unknown, but I am just
a novice so Well, yeah, well you could be like
george rr martin and takes like eight years right
now But it takes me forever to write something
too. So I feel this pain Alrighty, uh chuck what
you've been up to I have been up to A little
bit, I guess Random something completely random.
I watched a movie this week and really really
went out of my comfort zone as far as like movie
genres that I usually watch. And it kind of.
No. But this actually happened by accident. I
couldn't get to sleep one night, so I was flipping
through the channels. And for whatever reason,
I stopped on TCM, which is Turner Classic Movies.
And there's this really old, you know, black
and white film. That showed this man like getting
released from an asylum and he was like waiting
to kind of walk free and everything so like just
the the dialogue and everything really grabbed
my attention and so I kind of kept watching like
I can't really explain what grabbed me per se
but the movies actually like set in England during
World War two and It was it was made in 1944.
It's called the Ministry of Fear Nice was directed
by Fritz Lang. You've probably heard of him.
Yes, I have. It's one of one of his better movies
from what I read. He made a lot of movies during
that time, the 40s and 50s and stuff. But I was
really surprised at how much I enjoyed this movie.
I don't really want to give too much away because
part of part of what made me enjoy it so much
was just kind of being taken by surprise and
everything. I guess I do have to give a little
tidbit of kind of what it's about, but It's basically
like, some people have called it a noir film,
but other people say it's not a noir film, but
it's kind of like a crime drama slash thriller
type of thing. And it's actually an adaptation
of a novel by Graham Green. I have no idea who
that is, but apparently he's a famous author.
And it's essentially, you know, like I said,
the guy released from an asylum after he's kind
of served his prison sentence for two years.
And he basically stumbles into a Nazi spy ring
that's rooted right in London. Like you do. Yeah,
you know, occasionally it happens to everybody.
I mean, those Nazis will pop up. Like you've
got to keep that happened to me about a month
ago. I just randomly popped up in a Nazi spy
ring. It was it was horrible. You just you just
you just spray some cholera on them and they'll
go. Is that how you do it? I had to punch them
all in the face. Yeah, see but then they'll come
back but cholera they'll get scared and like
then they'll spread it to their to their hive
and they'll all get It's a good tip damn good
tip. Yeah, they take it back to the rest of them
But yeah, it's uh, you know, like I said kind
of a crime drama type thing, but It I was really
surprised how much I enjoyed this because I usually
don't care much for older movies at all Like
I guess with the exception of like Wizard of
Oz and maybe like a few select other few Wizard
of Oz creeps me out. By the way, that's a Fun
fact it is a bit creepy, but it's a it's a classic.
I can't deny that But I got really excited during
this movie for some reason I was just like captivated
throughout the whole thing like it really keeps
you like on the edge of your seat and It stars
Ray Milan. I'm not sure if you've heard of him
at all. I really wasn't familiar with him, but
he's he's been in a ton of movies I I am DB'd
him and He's been in like a ton of old -school
movies and everything but The guy did a great
job. I mean acting from everybody is is pretty
great and The thing really just holds up well
like for being from that time period like It's
like usually I find those movies to be like slow,
kind of long winded. And yeah, it's really slow
in those movies. I agree. Like even in real life
back then, everything was kind of slow. I think
we could all, you know, kind of agree for that.
Like everything nowadays is like we're used to
so much faster pace and like strong action sequences
and all this stuff. But this isn't like. A modern
movie by any means, but it's not slow either
like it's very like intellectual. I would say
like you really have to follow it till you know
what's going on. It surprises you at every turn.
So this is something I would highly recommend
checking out. Unfortunately, I couldn't find
it on Netflix, but if you do happen to see it
on. You know TCM or something like that one night.
Definitely sit down and watch it because it is
fantastic. They usually repeat a lot of movies
too, I believe. Yeah. And it is available to
rent on Amazon. So I did. OK, cool. Yeah, I would
definitely Rick. I. If you don't hear me say
anything else in this podcast, watch Ministry
of Fear. It's my it's my official recommendation
of the month. Yeah, I've watched a few Fritz
Lang movies mostly uh, and probably one of these
most known for which is I think it you might
like dial M for murder about No, okay. It's just
called them. I think dial M for murder is a Hitchcock.
Yeah, it's Hitchcock. But Ray Milan was in that
I guess But M is it has the guy who? It's about
M from James Bond It is but no it's about it
takes place in this German city as trade em controlled
by magneto. Yes It is a child murders going on
so they're trying to like discover who's killing
all these kids and it's just a huge investigation
and like the town kind of Goes a little bit insane
because they don't know who's doing it and then
it's just like an investigation into it But it's
it holds up pretty well and it has Peter Laurie
in it and she's you've probably seen him because
he looks he's been alive like in Maltese Falcon
a few other movies he Casablanca You know, he's
got a really creepy look to him. Have you seen
Casablanca, Dan? That's like a movie buffs movie.
Like I feel like every Casablanca and I'm always
like never seen it. Have no interest in seeing
it. Like I like it because I but also I love
Humphrey Bogart. He's like the ultimate. Talking
about ass. He's kind of like the ultimate badass.
It's good. I like cast me See, I'm more of a
Cary Grant fan if I'm gonna go old -school actor.
I'm gonna go Cary Grant Yeah, Cary Grant. Grant
probably has a little bit more class. I'll be
bar guard. It's more like the bruiser Who can
you who can you equate him to that's like and
kind of nowadays? I don't know. He's more a working
-class type of guy like Maybe like more like
a Matt Damon, maybe like a Larry the Cable guy
Let's do a remake with that negative I can't
think I can't think of someone who's who he would
go with but yeah, I do like cast a blanket It's
it's good. It's definitely I could see why it's
an all -time classic for sure It's it has so
many quotes that you've heard and you realize
like like all these quotes that you heard are
in that corner No one puts baby in the corner
Every time you hear a bell, an angel gets its
wings. I'll be back. All those moves, all those
things. I have 12 percent of a plan. Exactly,
exactly. I am Groot. It's weird if they come
from Casablanca. But yeah, very nice. Very cool.
All right, anything else before we take a break
and I didn't even get into what we're doing or
for our second segment But I guess I can get
into that now for our second segment. We're gonna
get into her an old classic game We've played
a couple times before and it's called sequel
reboot in the story for those that have been
here before I know what it's like. You have a
lot waiting for you for those Just take it in
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right back and we'll see you in a bask in its
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and welcome back. Today, we are going to do another
classic game. One of the first ones that we've
ever did, and it is called Sequel Reboot or Destroy.
For those that, you know, you've probably heard
something similar like Murder, Death, Kill, or
Merry... Merry Fuck Kill. There you go. There
you go. It's kind of like that. So basically
what we'll be doing is giving out different franchises
or TV shows or what have you, and deciding if
we should make a sequel to that given property,
reboot it completely. or destroy the idea, leave
it as, and go on to something new. So we're gonna
run the game on a different one from stuff from
yesterday, today, and forever, basically. But
I'm gonna start with one from classic 80s properties.
We actually even have a... We even have a...
Podcast on geocast radio dedicated to this cartoon
and that is he man I don't know if you guys were
into it at all as a kid There was also that movie
that was made to with Dolph Lundgren. I don't
know and there was even a reboot series in like
the early 2000s I know that people Some enjoy.
I don't know. I don't know what the overall opinion
on that series is I was never personally a big
he -man fan, but Do you guys think maybe that
you know? We're in the land of 80s comeback turtles
was last year is a time to maybe bring back he
man for a new generation or Maybe sequel eyes
the old series in some way or destroy the idea
and not touch he man Chuck I'll start with you
because I know you said you are a fan of the
series in the past So what how do you think we
should handle this cartoon? I mean I was a little
bit I was a casual fan I guess you could say
I did have some toys and stuff like I had all
the action figures and everything but Yeah, I
got passed on some toys to remember like not
knowing as a kid where they came from there were
just really weird creatures Yeah, I mean if she
asked me like to name the characters like I can't
Human Skeletor a grocery store, there was this
very tall, very skinny, very mean man, and I
used to call him Skeletor, and that caught on,
and he got very pissed, and he couldn't figure
out who called him Skeletor and started it off.
Nice. And then he did Honda commercials. Yeah,
did, along with Gumby. Very weird. So would you,
being a casual fan, do you think maybe we can
sequelize it or reboot it? What's your opinion?
I would be all for a reboot, honestly. I think
if there's a way to give it a little bit more
of a modern feel, I know it's kind of set in
a more of an ancient sort of time period, I guess.
I don't know. It's one of those weird things
like Star Wars. It's like a long time ago, yet
they have this futuristic technology. I don't
know. Yeah, it's like steampunk. Yeah, it's all
the heavy metal magazines combined But I would
definitely be for a reboot I think I think you'd
do some great things with them like I mean animated
shows are kind of hit -and -miss nowadays but
like Greg mentioned with agents of smash and
stuff like we do get some good ones every now
and then so I think if they get the right writers
and You know really hit the animation on the
head. I think it could be a success Nice Greg,
what do you think never really seen it? It's
the internet doesn't matter you give it. Oh,
I can that's awesome I've never really been too
into he man. I'm not into half naked men writing
battle cats sigh They got to be full naked or
you're not in Yeah, and a wine clock, you know,
cuz I didn't experience that at the Baltimore
comic -con one year Hey Yeah, we can't forget
we shall never forget the guy who cosplayed as
Tarzan who should not have He would be the the
lead role for he meant He'd be he meant if he
let himself go I'll say for the people that enjoy
it that it could be Rebooted, but I'll just not
watch it to be quite honest. You know, you'll
you'll you'll pass it, you know, you'll let them
watch it. But enjoy. How can you go wrong? How
can you grow wrong with a gigantic tiger that
you can ride and a humongous sword? See, if I'm
if I'm going to watch something like that, I'll
just watch heavy metal and then get the animated
boobs involved. So. Well, what if the rebooted
version had head I'd be totally in but they what
if they were on the tiger though? Yeah, I'm not
into bestiality or what are they called fuzzies?
Yeah, what if it's like he man when he's older
as he man boobs Nice, that is so good. He has
to adjust his costume so that bar in the front,
like, covers more. Nice. I'm actually going to
go. He's super jealous of Skeletor, and that's
why they're fighting all the time, because Skeletor
has no boobs whatsoever. We're butchering the
mythology of this. We're going to get a lot of
hate mail. I'll get some more because I'm going
to actually destroy the idea. Because like I
said, I never watched it as a kid. And when I
did, I just I could not get into it, especially
the 80s version of it. I just found it so ridiculous
and corny. And I always thought he man looked
really dorky. So. Yeah, I want to go destroy
it. I'm not I don't I think it's one property
from the 80s We can let die. So sorry to all
the tales of a 30 attorney of fans out there
But uh, I'm gonna say destroy apologize, but
I did it. I said it Again the powers of Grayskull
were not enough to save it Let's move on to another
TV series this one. I know we're all big fans
of Chuck you've been named it as one of your
favorite TV shows of all time and that is home
in ice. No 1990s TGIF. No, it wasn't TGIF. But
uh, yeah, it is By the way, does anybody else
like gonna be like ABC? What the hell are you
doing TGIT? What the fuck? You see who the hell
is gonna watch Tidget? But, uh, but yeah, so
I know before we were, we were started recording,
we were talking about, I guess Tim Allen has
a new TV series out now called last man standing
or something, but his wife from the show did
come from, from home improvement and came on
to do a little guest spot. And they made jokes
about how the old show and all that great stuff.
But could you see having Tim Allen come back
and do a home improvement like 20 years later?
We've seen it done before, like Bill Cosby did
it with the Cosby show. Supposedly, I put up
air quotes there supposedly. Wink, wink, nudge,
nudge, say no more. Yeah, so but I know. Anyway,
I'll get out of that as quickly as possible.
So it's been done before with different with
with different series where there's been a big
break, we've come back and try to do it again.
Maybe even reboot it for a new generation with
different characters and kind of same idea, but
just done a little bit differently or just, you
know, it was, it is, and maybe we shouldn't,
we shouldn't try to do home improvement again.
Chuck, I started with you last time. So Greg,
I'll start with you here. Personally, I think
that he's already got a reboot kind of version
of it with the glass man standing, but instead
of having three boys, he's got three girls. Instead
of being infatuated with tools. He's more infatuated
with sports goods kind of like because he works
for like a Dick's sporting goods store I'm so
pretty much the same thing. Yes It's pretty much
the same thing, but the jokes aren't as good
and it I don't think it's quite as slapstick
But at least he has an attractive daughter in
this one, even though she has weird bangs Yeah,
I don't think we really need it. So I'd go with
destroy. Oh, no. Chuck, what say you? I know,
I know it holds a special place in your heart.
So but, you know, do you think bringing it back
would be sacrilegious or would you want to see
these characters? I honestly think I think we
should destroy it. I can't do it as well. Oh,
no. I think it's just. It was too special at
the time. I don't think doing anything now would
do it justice like I really don't think there's
a way to Come close to I guess the level that
it was at before Like like all the jokes have
been done. Like I don't really know what what
else you could do You definitely couldn't get
the same actors. So you'd have to get Probably
different actors and then you'd have essentially
Yeah, you could get him probably. So if you have
like, if you don't have like the same cast, you
essentially have like the show that he is now,
Last Man Standing. Wasn't one of the kids in
jail or something like that, or maybe I think
it was somebody else. Had an offense of some
sort. But Wilson is definitely passed away at
this point. Yeah. So I'm actually gonna I guess
I'll be the lone lone person here But I'm gonna
say sequel but do it not necessarily a series
But I'm thinking maybe like a TV movie and you
mentioned Wilson passed away So maybe they can
like come back for like the funeral back from
the dead It's gonna be called zombie Wilson and
He's gonna of any if any character that uh, you
know of any TV series I would think Wilson we
wouldn't be one that would somehow be able to
find a way to come back from the dead But but
yeah, I think I'm thinking just I'd like to see
like what these characters are like grown up
a little bit No, I think you can get the actors
for one. I will be boring as always Yeah, I want
to talk here for seeing that where it's like
a TV show a little bit in the future and seeing
what happens. But, you know, maybe maybe you
didn't learn your lesson from Saved by the Bell,
the college years. Hey, hey, that was gold. It
was that was just too soon. They needed to wait
until Dustin Diamond was in jail. Or how about
Girl Meets World now, which is like, you know,
according to Panger, like grown up as the parents.
Yeah, I have not I watched the first episode
just out of like obligation and then I'm like,
yeah, I'm not I'm not It's nothing like Boy Meets
World. It's like way too Disney channel ish Yeah,
I was watching Boy Meets World the other day
because I was like on in the morning. I'm like
It's it is kind of corny, but it's still like
not as like peppy. I guess I don't know. It's
just I don't know. I feel like Girl Meets World.
I'm like I feel Dirty watching the show does
not I feel like it's an appropriate watching
teenage girls trying to I think they're even
younger teenage dance. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah,
there were like 12 or something. I don't know.
Let's get quickly as possible. And let's move
on to a movie. We talked about TV. Let's get
into a movie. And this is kind of one of those
franchises that once you think it's dead, it
comes back and some say maybe We didn't need
to come back not too long ago and that was indiana
jones and the last film obviously people hated
interesting though, it made tons of money and
has A positive rating on rotten tomato. So it's
kind of funny like we think about everyone hating
it but For some reason did well and it was critically
successful So could you see a maybe Indiana Jones
coming back for another sequel? You know Harrison
Ford is in the new Star Wars movie. Is he trying
to just rekindle that flame all over again? Destroying
that idea or rebooting it with a new person taking
over the realm I mean wheat there was the young
Indiana Jones TV series and which is I Was watching
that that's pretty decent. That's more like history
channel type stuff of Like a kid show type of
thing, but it was really good. Yeah. I mean,
so someone has played the character before. So
Chuck, I'll start with you here. Would you mind
seeing the sequel or reboot or anything for the
Indiana Jones franchise? I would, I think I would
probably make a sequel, another sequel. I would
do more of like, like passing down the reins
to like a new A new lead role. I think I would
kind of leave Harrison Ford out of it at this
point. Just make sure, you know, not passing
it down. No, definitely not him. I'm not sure
who would be a good fit for a role like that.
You want to pick somebody young, but not not
like annoyingly young, like not someone like.
I like Zac Efron or some crap like that. I don't
think Zac Efron is that young at this point.
Well, no, he's like 20s, but still. I actually
could kind of see Zac Efron doing that. I disagree
that he's too young, but I certainly disagree
that he is good for that part. Enjoyed he was
he was decent in that awkward moment I think
he's kind of I could see him getting rid of that
stigma of the Disney star in a good five six
years I know it seems crazy. He's been trying
to do that for five or six years already. It's
Yeah, I think it's finally it's finally it happened
like Ryan Gosling and happened when he was able
to do it The Mickey Mouse Club like decades ago
I know, give Zac Efron decades and then we'll
do it. I mean, and I don't mean young. I mean,
like immature. Like, I know he's done some mature
movies like I've. What's the one, the lucky one
or whatever? Yeah, it was decent. It was OK.
Chick flick. But just the what's the one he did
with Seth Rogen? Like where he's in college and
everything. Yeah, I didn't see that, but it looked
kind of dumb. I like it. Sorry. No. I didn't
know this. I didn't know I'd be like defending
Zac Efron tonight. I did not know that. You never
know where we're going to go on this show. I
don't know who else I would pick, really. But
I think I think it'd be good to kind of pass
the torch of Indiana Jones. There's always a
place for like that sort of raw adventure and
discovery. Like everybody likes that stuff, no
matter what generation you come from. So I think
there's always going to be a place for it. Greg,
what do you think? I think reboot. I think it's
just, from the last one, it's too hard to pass
the torch. It's a difficulty, especially seeing
Harrison Ford still as Indiana Jones. It's difficult
to see him that old. It just kind of kills your
childhood a little bit and it's tough to see
him as that character being that old. And that
movie definitely jumped the shark. So I think
you need a fresh start. That refrigerator scene
just killed me when I saw that. That was so upsetting
when I saw it. It didn't jump the shark. Yeah,
the fridge, yes. Interesting. So actually, you
know what I'm going to say? I'm going to say...
That we should double destroy and not only destroy
the idea of doing anything else with the franchise
But also destroy the last movie. So we're only
left with Because you have the perfect trilogy
after you end with you're just trying to catch
up the amount of destroys I have I Am trying
to you're leading a league in this. I know I'm
the world's conqueror of sequel No, I just Reaches
that lost Argus there holds a very special place
in my heart. It's like I to me one of the if
not the best Easily the best action -adventure
movie of all time. I even like the third film
a lot I think it's nearly as good Temple of Doom.
It's all right. But uh, yeah, the fourth one
was awful and like we mentioned I just think
Harrison Ford's kind of lost it at this point
and I don't I Don't know if I could see anyone
taking that role and being able to make it into
something new do something else. I mean Indiana
Jones in itself was a take on classic serial
characters So I think there's ways of doing something
that you can maybe do it along those lines, but
doing okay I have a good idea for a replacement
Just came to me Okay, Dominic Cooper who plays
Howard Stark in Captain America movie Huh interesting
seems kind of little small yeah worry though
Though I mean you can make him I mean Harrison
Ford it actually isn't as stoic of a good Kind
of voice for that it's got a time period got
the accent, you know, I think that by the way
I thought the second episode of agent Carter
was that it was was pretty decent Yeah Yeah,
I think it I didn't know didn't first one turned
I just I barely watch TV when it's a on like
I just wait till later kind of didn't system
being difficult Dan like me likes to binge watch
because we forget when it's on. But I thought
it was really good and definitely better than
the first episode. It's slow at times, but then
when it gets in gear, there's some major ass
kicking going on. Yeah, and I thought the story
for Jarvis was quite interesting, that reveal.
Which wasn't too big of a reveal, but it was
an interesting story. What's that, Dan? Sequel
reboot or destroy agent Carter? Sequel It's interesting,
it's not what I expected but it's good I always
segueed from Indiana Jones days in Carter You're
welcome people. Thanks to my recommendation of
Dominic Cooper. So All right. Well, you know
what also making a good Indiana Jones Ron Perlman,
so let's segue to Hellboy. Seriously, let's segue
to Hellboy. Let's segue to Hellboy. Hellboy,
we've had Hellboy 1 and Hellboy 2. We haven't
got to Hellboy 3 yet. There's been a lot of rumors
and it's coming out, it's gone away. Ron Perlman's
busy doing other movies for Gizmo del Toro. Would
you want to see Hellboy 3, a sequel to it? Maybe.
Give it to someone new, someone different, seeing
a reboot of it, or is the time for Hellboy come
and gone? Greg, I'll start with you here because
I know Hellboy, you probably like it the most
out of all of us, and you've read the comics
and watched some of the cartoons. What do you
think about doing a Hellboy sequel? I think sequel.
I definitely enjoy Ron Perlman on the role, and
especially all the other folks in their roles.
I think they were heading in a great direction.
The second movie was definitely much better than
the first. And from reading the comics, I think
there are stories in there that they could take
from and characters that they could get in there
that are really intriguing, that are just a gold
mine to put on the screen. And I definitely love
Gizmo's movies. Even though I haven't kept up
with his TV shows, I still think Gizmo is great.
And so I'd like to see another one. I'm definitely
a fan of that character and the movies, especially
the second one. The first one was OK, but the
second one really did it for me. Yeah, and regarding
the strain, don't worry about catching up with
it. It's even got worse as I left it. Yeah, it
just it was I was better off with the book Yeah,
I stopped watching it. I got to like the sixth
episode. I'm like, I need to stop hating myself
and watching this show Just read the book dance.
It was yeah. I know. All right, Chuck What do
you think sequel reboot or destroy? Hellboy?
Hmm. I'm gonna go. I'm actually gonna go with
sequel. I think they should do number three I
really really enjoyed number two. Thanks to Greg,
of course You're welcome, sir. I couldn't leave
you with the bad taste of the first one in your
mouth. I know you did. Yeah. Because the ending
of the first one is just kind of false flat.
Yeah, I really didn't really care for the first
one that much. That's why I was kind of skeptical,
but I trusted your wise opinion, so I went with
the second one. Yeah, usually number two does
leave a better taste. Oh, gosh. Who does number
two work for? Two guys, one movie. No, I really
liked like I know Del Toro did it who also did
Blade 2 and he brought over Luke Goss who played
Nomak in Blade 2 to play was it Prince Nuada
or something like that? Yeah, Nuada's, I think
that's close. Nuda? I don't know. Nuda's Kalanias.
But I like that guy for some reason he's a cool
actor. Really liked him in that and I thought
the story was great. So I say only if del Toro
could do number three I would say sequel and
then del Toro has like the great like colors
for scenery like it's always an interesting like
cinematic Photography like situation going on.
I especially enjoy the colors that are infused
in his movies Yeah, you really can't you contrast
like the darkness of Hellboy with a lot of great
like yeah Like upbeat colors, especially with
the like second one like you mentioned and i'll
make it three for three I would love to see a
hellboy three like you mentioned I thought I
thought who two was a lot better the action in
story I think got a lot better and I It was like
del Toro had a better command of you know what
he wanted to do And I think most of it became
the the villain was a lot more interesting than
the one in the first one so I don't know a lot
about the lore of hellboy like what other characters
they can come from but you know the Comic is
around for a long time and it's still around.
I love to see him Yeah, I love to see him take
that character on and I promen is born. Oh, yeah
So I just hope you know, he can do it one more
time before you know, it's becomes too too hard
for him So cuz I know it's like, you know, 15
hours of makeup or something It's like crazy
headed the timing of the makeup down a little
bit further than 15 hours for the second one
I want to say but yeah It's still it's yeah,
it's a long time like half a day. Just they had
done a 14 probably But yeah, so interesting very
cool, but you know during that time you could
listen to talking circles and podcasts So it
would be fine. So nothing to worry about Thanks.
Anyways. Alright, let's move on to another classic
comic series. But when I say comic I mean You
know sunday comics are I guess the old style
comic and this is one that greg you brought up
and that is dick tracy the one of the most classic
comic characters of all time and There was a
movie to dick tracy back in the 90s done by warren
bady who's interestingly Who was interestingly
enough having another movie come out this year
for the first time since like 1998 Yeah, it's
about howard hughes another howard hughes movie
I love the aviator So yeah, it's coming out later
this year supposedly would you like to see a
sequel to Dick Tracy a Reboot to the series or
maybe like Dick Tracy is you know, I'm not gonna
work for today's generation Chuck. What do you
think? What would you like to see done with it?
Well, I should probably watch the first one first
Chuck I really don't know much about Dick Tracy
at all I know it's kind of if if I told you a
new Dick Tracy movie was coming out would that
interest you at all? Guess a little bit. Yeah,
I mean, it's kind of like a there's a noir type
detective kind of thing Plus his villains are
all like garbage pail characters Yeah, I mean,
yeah, I mean if you put it that way I would be
you know, I'd probably be willing to check it
out, but it's not like I'm clamoring for them
to make a sequel or anything so Fair enough.
Fair enough. You kind of the same way for me
for he man. Yeah All right, Greg the person who
owns Dick Tracy, what would you like to see done
with this? It wasn't the greatest of movies.
I'm not sure how they would play it update it
really And I don't think you could do a sequel.
I think Warren Beatty I don't know how old he
is, but I have a feeling he's got to be up there
hundred and oh shit But he's got to be up there
in age, so I don't think he could do a sequel.
And I don't want to see Madonna in a movie, so
I don't want to see those arms waving around.
I would do a reboot, but they'd have to do it
the right way. It would have to be a proper script
and everything. And I think they'd have to do
it on the cheaper side to make it viable and
worth the risk for The production companies and
stuff and, and, uh, the movie distributors and
whatever else goes on. I don't know anything
about the movie business. What you're saying
is you would, you would, uh, fund it. I'd fund
it if it was cheap and the right price and everything.
I have very little amount of money. You would,
you would pledge at least $32. Yes, $32 sounds
like the perfect amount. For me, when it comes
to the Dick Tracy franchise, I think a reboot
would work if done right. I know there have been
some series that have been kind of along the
same lines. There was a spirit not too long ago,
and that was kind of awful and didn't do well
since City came out last year, which I thought
was great in the spirit, though. Not acting wise,
I really didn't care. But if you put that on
mute with Eva Mendes on there, it sounds really
good. It was really good. Yes. Yeah, you got
to see a whole new side of her. Oh, yeah You
got to see all the great sides of her All right
But no, I think there's a potential there I think
you could do it if it's tough because like you
said the 90s TV movie was not not that good But
I think partially because maybe we didn't have
the technology really you have to fight find
that right Middle ground of where you can be
cartoonish, but not too ridiculous. So I would
like to see another go -around because I think
you know that probably that's been around forever
So I feel like we should get a good Jake Tracy
movie I don't know maybe it may maybe take it
like super serials get rid of the style and Just
use the name really or something like that in
the character. Yeah, that might be interesting
Alright, let's move on to another TV series and
this one actually came back Then there was a
great deal because it is now on Netflix. You
can watch every episode of this series There's
over like 517 episodes or something like that
But uh one of the biggest sitcoms of all time
one of the biggest sitcoms of the 90s and that
is friends Chuck I know you enjoyed that series
at the time or am I mistaken? Yeah, I enjoy some
of the episodes I'm not like a diehard or anything,
but I mean occasionally if it reruns on I'll
check it out, but Yeah, I think it's like a good
show to put on if you're like working on something
else. Yeah That's a good way to put it down My
favorite episodes are the ones where, like, they
show flashbacks of all the other episodes. Like,
the funniest moments of each one. Like, that's
what I kind of like. I know Jimmy Kimmel's done
a few skits recently with Jennifer Anderson,
and they had, like, a friends reunion, mini reunion,
and a lot of people have been clamoring to see
some sort of, like, friends reunion movie or
TV show. Or maybe, like, you know, you can take
that concept of friends and apply it to a new
generation or, you know. Just let it die and
not talk about it anymore. Chuck, since you said
you did like it a little bit, would you mind
seeing it come back in a new form? Or do you
think it's kind of had it run its course and
should just, you know, be seen in rerun? Yeah.
I think, uh, I think I would destroy it to be
honest. Um, it, I mean, it, it was great. And
in its time, I think, what does it run for like
10 seasons or something? Something like nine,
10. I don't know. But well, my question is. Is
there any truth to the Friends movie that's coming
out? No, it's been rumored forever, but it's
just one of those things that's like, it's coming
out. I saw a trailer for it, but I don't know
if that was a spoof thing. It was. Yeah, it was
a fake fan trailer. They take they take things
from like Joey, not Joey, but Matt LeBlanc show
on Showtime and like they take all these different
things from all shows and they've made a trailer
out of it. So no, it's not it's not actually
coming out. OK, as of right now. OK, good. Yeah,
because even watching that trailer, a lot of
the same things didn't make sense because Chandler
and Monica weren't married and stuff. She knocked
on his door and he's like, oh, hey, what are
you doing here? And I'm like, wait a minute,
they were married in the show. So I kind of wondered
if that was a phony trailer, but I guess I didn't
have enough interest to research it. I think
it's best enjoyed as reruns, to be honest. A
lot of those people have moved on to better things.
I think jennifer aniston was the only one that
had like a Highly successful career beyond that
i'm, not really sure what any of the other people
are up to I think matt leblanc is was going to
be on like an episode of uh conan or some of
one of those late night shows like one of these
coming weeks, but He's had I mean he's been like
uh, like I said, he's a show episodes on on showtime,
which has been mildly successful and Lisa Kudrow
has a show called The Comeback, which has been
highly regarded. Matthew Perry, not so much.
David Schwimmer, he's done some independent movie
directing and he's done stuff that's more small
scale. And Courtney Cox has that show on TVX.
Oh gosh, that show's horrible. Yeah. In speaking
of Skeletor, you do have Courtney Cox, because
she's slowly turning into Skeletor. Oh gosh,
she looks so terrible. And uh, who was the other
one in Jennifer Anderson? She's probably yeah,
like you said had the best success in movie She
was almost she was just nominated for a Golden
Globe and there was a lot of push to get her
nominated for an Oscar for this year for this
movie cake Which I haven't seen but people have
been saying she was good in it But uh, yeah,
so they've had like all different types of successes
in some small ways Apparently, I know a lot about
the Friends cast and I don't even know why. But
Greg, what say you? I watched the series a little
bit. It was never the greatest thing ever for
me. It was funny. It was amusing. But like you
said, it would be something good if there's nothing
else on and you're doing some work and kind of
have it in the background. So for me, I would
just destroy it. I don't think you can. Rekindle
that that same magic again. So I think you just
leave it how it is in people's mind Yeah, I I'm
gonna go with the story as well I just when you
go back and watch that shows very much a product
of its time and I feel like none None of those
actors want to come back. So if they had come
back, it'd be very just awkward and not work
It's been too long and seeing them trying to
do those characters. I just I don't know. They've
just been Plus the whole, like you said, the
product of his time, the whole dynamic of socializing
has changed today. So if they did it today, it'd
just be people, it would just be like cuts to
different people texting. They wouldn't even
be meeting in a coffee shop. It's like friends.
It's like, you know, I think it, like I said,
it's a, you know, it's your basic sitcom. But
I don't really think we need anything else and
I do not see it working for today's generation
for like a new sequel when What was really kind
of risque back then is really tame now So and
they did try to do a different take on it called
with this show called like couplings, which was
it failed miserably So they've all already been
intense and I think you do see kind of its influence
on shows But like I would say something like
new girl has friend tendencies, but it's done
a lot better and Can I get away from the classic
format of the sitcoms? Because I'm not a big
fan of like the three camera like laugh track
type of sitcoms personally. All right. So this
will be the last one. We talked about one franchise
from Steven Spielberg. Let's talk about another
one. And we had Godzilla last year come back.
And I was wondering if maybe we're in the mood
for another beast from the ocean to make a return.
And that is Jaws. There have been. A lot of sequels
to jaws and so much so I don't have you know
There's been a lot of talk about back to the
future and it being in 2015 In 20 in that there
was jaws 6 so and it would be app Acropoda maybe
bring back jaws for a sequel Or, you know, maybe
reboot it for a new generation. Uber driver is
still alive. He can come back and do his character
that he was then. Or, you know, are we done with
that franchise and we just watch the old one?
Chuck, I don't know if you were fan of the old
one or not, but, uh, Jesus Christ. I just, I
just died a little inside. I was just ignoring
him for a while. I was like, I'm like, I was
wondering how long he'd keep it going. And then
there you go. The only way to deal with that
sort of thing that Greg was doing is just like
you would a real shark and just punch it square
in the nose. Sorry, Greg, but it was unfortunate.
Unfortunately, we're on Skype, so I can't. Do
you have big black eyes by any chance? No. OK.
Who who's who's going first? You can go ahead.
Oh, boy. Let's see. There's far as I know, there's
been. Four JAWS movies. Yeah, I think JAWS one,
two and three and then JAWS revenge. That's when
the shark agents like magical powers and learns
how to get the shark learns kung fu and it's
taken up in a tornado. Yeah. Oh, boy. You know
what? And I've seen I've seen the first one,
obviously, I've seen the second one. I think
I've seen parts of the third one. Haven't seen
any of the fourth one. so i really don't know
where they left the franchise i don't really
know where they left off but uh i don't think
you can kind of keep continuing something like
that in my opinion so i think if you're going
to do anything maybe a reboot because it is kind
of aged by now i mean that came out in 75 so
you look at something that's like 40 years later
now so uh i i think you can do a pretty successful
reboot on that probably Greg, what say you? I
see. Yeah, I think I agree with Chuck. Reboot
is the way to go because they did definitely
leave it weird with the shark trying to get revenge
on the family. It's just really weird and you
don't want to try and retcon that. I don't know
how you would retcon that, so I think it's easier
just to reboot. Time travel. Yes, time travel.
It's actually a Terminator shark. It's the T
-3000 that came back in time to hunt down the
Brody's. I think a reboot would actually do pretty
well, especially with all the shark stories that
you hear. Any more of like the the girl surfer
girl lost her entire arm and whatever So we need
the other side of that instead of a girl getting
redeemed will not redeemed but fighting Against
the world's and setbacks We need somebody just
to get eaten by a shark instead of an upbeat.
We don't want to lose an arm. We need a hand
I don't know. Sometimes when you see an arm,
you want the rest of the body. You know, finger
food isn't, you know, sometimes you need more.
Has anyone seen Sharknado? Oh, the first and
second. Oh, because I haven't seen it. What's
I mean, what's that whole thing? What's going
on there? It's trying to do a birdemic. If you're
gonna watch one of them, I'd definitely say the
first one. The second one gets a little bit too
involved with its own popularity. So yeah, definitely
check out the first one if you're gonna check
out any of them. But it's pretty bad and just
Tara Reid is hilarious because her acting is
atrocious. She does not want to be there. And
the CGI is terrible and the story is just Bizarre
and the logic is awful. So It's it's a bad version
of birdemic Good to know. Yeah, I I've not watched
sharknado, but I've listened to the how to which
is good. I listen to that. Yeah Yeah, I feel
like why even bother I just wouldn't listen.
Yeah, that was good I'm going through those again.
I see a similar with Indiana Jones. I don't think
we need to reboot it because I think the old
one still holds up remarkably well. I mean, yes,
some of the special facts maybe like aren't as
good today. But I did. I wonder if like a show
a movie just based upon a shark would work with
people now that we have stuff like I don't have
to do multiple sharks in the water. Yeah. So
I would I would I would just go with the story.
I think instead of just. Go back and watch the
original because it's really fantastic and I
would love to see it in the theater. So, you
know, it's my opinion. They did sort of do a.
I mean, it wasn't related to Jaws in any way,
but it was like a different take on sharks. That
was Deep Blue Sea, which was pretty terrible,
too. Plus their shark week. Yeah. Yeah. But it's
really obsessed about and I don't understand
that. Yeah, I mean. Thomas Jane was the best
part of deep blue sea, but uh that and Samuel
a Jackson getting swallowed alive by shark What
are these goddamn snakes doing in this motherfucking
shark Sticks in a shark But yeah, so yeah, I'm
gonna go with the story with jaws and I don't
know if I'm I'm winning now the thing that you
can't destroy jaws Always coming back keeps coming
back to send me how Jackson tries to come in
to recruit the shark to the effect You're part
of the bigger universe you just don't know it
Very nice very nice, but all right So yes, let
us know what you think and I'm pretty sure I'm
gonna get a lot of hate mail for thinking Zac
Efron could take over Indiana Jones, but hey
The moment caught me up and I didn't know how
to get out of it. So But anyways, we like to
end each episode with a letter and today I have
a letter for you and Interesting enough around
this time last year. We had our very first podcast.
So I kind of gonna go into that January 21st
2014 a day that will live in infamy a day that
scholars will look back upon and Wonder why the
world changed and they'll know because that's
when the talking in circles podcast debuted Yes,
not too long ago this podcast came out and Honestly,
I did not know where it was going about you know
over 18 months ago I brought the idea to Chuck
and Greg and they were a little bit hesitant
about the idea But I think they pitied me enough
and came along and I have to say within our first
episode Greg wrote a wonderful letter regarding
Why it's been a lot of fun to do this podcast,
and I think he was right on We started this just
to kind of hang out in a virtual setting and
now people are listening, which is great But
honestly, it's just kind of a good time a good
opportunity to kind of talk with friends and
record it and then try to do something fun with
it Interesting enough. I do also have to thank
all those awesome people have been writing reviews
on itunes leaving comments tweeting Honestly,
those remarks do mean a lot. They really inspire
us to get better and do something new with this
podcast Not too long ago, we were on Geek Cash
Radio, the episode where TFG1Mike asked us what
we want to get out of this podcast in the future.
I still don't know the answer to that question.
But when I did answer it, my response was get
better. And that's honestly what I really want
to do. I want to get better. I want to find ways
to make this podcast even more presentable, even
more fun, and even... more unique and different.
I know there's a lot of podcasts out there, a
lot of podcasts out there on GeCast radio or
other places that you can listen to that probably
cover similar material. And I think what's interesting
about us, and I don't know if it's true or not,
I just think it's the fact that we enjoy having
fun. I know we're not necessarily here to change
the world though. We just kind of do it by proxy.
It's just what we, we're just that good, but.
I appreciate the fact that, you know, Greg and
Chuck were willing enough to come on board and
try out this thing. So I got to first thank them
for agreeing to coming on Talking in Circles.
You know, they've both done a lot of work. Greg
working on all of his great Art for the podcast
from the logos to the for the war for but more
March badness I i've given a lot of work to do
and he and always pulls through get some great
great art Chuck always brings it as well. His
voices for unknown are fantastic They really
they really make that better and make up for
my complete lack of talent and also knows how
to bring the funny Also, like I mentioned that
you have to thank the fans and thank TFG1 Mike
and Steve Megantron Phillips for allowing us
to come on the podcast So the question is what
comes up in the future? Well, I have no idea.
We'd love to hear what you guys want us to do
You know what you want us to see we will be bringing
back games again likes you could reboot and destroy
I'm looking forward to doing another March badass
bracket. So let us know well well well things
just kind of come to us and kind of and that's
what i've always enjoyed it's well throw things
out there see how it works if it works we keep
doing it if it doesn't we stop aka the moments
of time episode where that just failed miserably
but you know we learn and we grow anyways thanks
again for listening and here's for a few more
years so I know that was kind of corny, but I
felt like, you know, it is the State of the Union
time, so maybe we should just, you know, recognize
us being around for an entire year. By the way,
Dan, I pity the fool. You do pity the fool? Pity
the fool. I was just doing Mr. T. I'm sorry.
It was bad. Do you want to bring him on the podcast?
Mr. T. We could get Mr. T. He's got nothing else
to do. That'd be awesome. We could ask him to
do a performance of Mother. There is no other
yeah That is freaking hilarious that thing. Oh
My gosh, do you ever you know what's really great
to way back when? Have you ever heard mr. T laugh?
No, I used to do it in the Conan O 'Brien show
and it google it or look it on YouTube it is
like The oddest sound in the history of the world.
It's so weird like his laugh I liked when he
played the wise janitor on another teen movie
I'm the wise janitor even even announced who
he was How did we get on that anyway, I have
no idea Cuz Dan said they kept pitying me or
whatever But yeah, hey you guys came on I didn't
know I I was I remember when talking about it
You guys are like, yeah, maybe but hey, I tricked
you enough. I don't know it ended up working
so All right. Anything else before we bring this
episode to a close? Watch Ministry of Fear. I
don't know. That's the one thing. And Zac Efron
for any... Oh, Dominic Cooper. Dominic Cooper,
I'm telling you. I agree. I'd go Cooper over
Efron. All right. Well, there's a lot of ways
to get in contact with us there. You can email
us at feedback at geocastradio .com or at talkingincirclesatlive
.com. We're on Twitter and Facebook. Just search
Talking In Circles, TCRN. And Greg, you sir are
also on Twitter, and I believe you're at The
Great Forge. Is that correct? No, I'm at Emirata
now. No, that's Emily Radziakowski's. Check out
that one. Your Twitter Frawler has increased
by like a million. So yeah, I am at the Create
Forge. So you can get all your fun references.
I meant to tweet out something this week of that
the Riddler should have been a female character
because they are enigma. Lame joke, but it would
have looked awesome on my Twitter. Now you can't
use it, so. I'm still going to use it. I'm still
going to put it on there, Dan. I've still got
time before this comes out. You have different
people that listen to this and follow you. So
recycle the jokes. All my spam bots that follow
me will think that joke's hilarious. What about
the creepy scape hookers? They do not follow
me on Twitter for some reason. I don't understand
why. Weird. They're not hookers. They're cam
girls. Come on. You know, totally different.
How dare you? They were camisoles and thongs.
Remember? So interesting enough, the last time,
the first time we talked about the Skype cam
hooker or kite was when we did secret reboot
in the store because I went back and listened
to the episode. So that's awesome. Wow. It's
like it's like we have a clock in our head, you
know, just keeps coming around. Yeah. But yeah,
speaking of clocks, not that doesn't work at
all. Chuck, you're still not on Twitter. I am
at like clockwork at my desk. Not on Twitter.
You can follow him there. It's kind of weird
though. Follow his webcam. There's there's a
closet behind me, so if you could follow me there.
But yeah, the best way to get in contact with
us is if you go to geekhathory .com or nerdy
.co .uk and comment on the episode post. What's
up, Brit? Yeah, British. Yeah, we have had a
shout out to the British people lately. No, we
have not. We've been ignoring them. We do apologize.
We should do some British -British episode where
we all speak in British accent, but that never
happened. Which is coming off of Netflix. What?
What dare they? That is a good announcement,
though. That's a good heads up to people. Yeah,
you're welcome. You're welcome, America. Anyways,
this has been a random episode. Hey, it's good.
It's a good random. Anyways, we'll bring this
episode to a close, but we'll be back next week.
Same time, same channel, same podcast feed, but
for now. This has been Chuck. This has been Greg,
or Skeletor. And this has been Dan, and we've
been talking in circles. I did not know you were
also Christina Cox. That's not Christina Cox.
That's not the right person. Who's Christina
Cox?
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