Fact or Fiction Game with Random Tangents

Hey, this is Steve Blum, and you are listening

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title of the show. Sorry. I think I broke. You

see, I just talked out loud and I officially

have broken Greg. It's only been a little bit.

Sorry, I'm a little bit trashed. I had like three

quarters of a cup of this. Whiskey or the random

outbursts Again, Greg is plastered one. But anyways

this week we are breaking back in old faithful

we started our very first podcast with this game

and we've done it a few other times and We're

gonna add a nice little twist to it that you're

here very shortly But we're gonna be playing

some fact or fiction and it's a simple game Simply

we'll be giving each other statements and we'll

be determining if those statements are a fact

or if they are fiction But before we get to all

that how's the week been going for you guys?

It was it was alright, but I had one drawback

to the week. Yeah, I got I got pulled over by

the cops Yeah, ouch Yeah, I was going to see

a lady friend and I was trying to hurry up to

get to her house Yeah, and I got caught doing

55 and a 35 But the lady officer brought it down

from 55 miles an hour to 45. What'd you do to

get that pass? I have no idea. I wasn't like

winking. I wasn't crying behind the wheel like

women do to get out of tickets. I just kind of

sat there. She was walking up to the car. I had

my arm out the window with my stuff before she

even got there. Were you flexing though? Was

it like, here's my stuff. Yeah, here's my stuff.

I am flexing underneath the - This giant sweatshirt

that I have on. Like a button on a fur coat.

You guys went with the actual sweater that I

possess on my skin. Thank you for that, I appreciate

it. But yeah, I got pulled over. She brought

it down, she's like, I brought it down from 55

to 45 so you won't have as many points against

you. And I'm like, thanks, I appreciate it. But

the ticket altogether, there was like one spot

for the fine, and it was like 45 bucks. But then

it's just like, oh, and here's for this and this

and this and this and this and this. So at the

end, it added up to one hundred and forty five

dollars. Jesus Christ. Right. Get a kid with

a car. Like, what did you do? I don't know. I

think I murdered someone along the way. Wow.

Harder does kill. Knock on one. I haven't got

a speeding ticket. that hasn't been from a camera

in a while but the last one I got was actually

a few years ago and it was when I was on like

the turnpike in Pennsylvania and it was coming

home from Kutztown on a Monday morning and there

was like no one on the road and he pulled me

over for going like 10 miles or 15 miles over

the speed limit I'm like really really guy saving

lives all right Well, my favorite part is I'm

going through like through my shopping and there's

nothing going on in my shop and you can. Oh,

you were up there. Yeah. Ouch. I guess. Well,

you got the girl, but the guy is usually a dick.

It's a good thing you missed that lady. Yeah.

Well, she was very nice. It was wasn't like we

were like best friends afterwards or anything,

but she was she was no matter how hard you try.

Yeah. Do you want to sleep with me or oh, no,

you're just giving me the ticket. All right.

I shouldn't hit on you more. OK, but yeah. What

is that mate? What is that? Is that bear mace?

Why? I'm not a bear. I know I have thick coating

on me, but I wish I knew you were going up there,

bro. I would have warned you that that's a well

-known speed trap in that area. Well, I was already

told that it was a speed trap up there, but I

didn't. I thought you'd go. You'd speed through

it and miss it. I didn't even see where they

were sitting. I like I was paying attention.

Like it was the one time that I wasn't paying

attention to my speedometer. And like all of

a sudden I look behind me and there was a cop.

I'm like, I didn't even see where they pulled

out. I like I had no idea where this person was

sitting at all. Like ninja police. Yeah. And

I was looking at my speed and like it was the

one time that I got up over the speed limit a

little bit and I wasn't paying attention really

at that point because I was almost there and

I was paying attention to like where I had to

turn because it's this this weird intersection

where it's like uh you're going straight and

then there's a turn a 90 degree to the right

and then there's like where the road's coming

through but on the other side there's like a

two -pronger that's like split by this random

house in the middle of it. It's a really weird

split. So I was trying to pay attention to that

because I got lost the first time going over

this girl's house. Side part is I know exactly

where you're talking about. I accidentally took

the right split there of the house and it went

like past like this like mill and then it went

to this dirt road, and then it went under this

tunnel where these weird a weird passage was

written on the wall. And then you went through

time and then there were people the moment came

out. And then when I was on the other side, there

were like these two houses and then there's like

a whole bunch of signs. This is a dead end. And

I'm like, OK, is this literally a dead end? Is

somebody going to jump out and kill me here?

So I like turned around, did a K turn real quick

and went back through the creepy tunnel. I didn't

stick around to read the passage that was in

the creepy tunnel. Got out of there and then

drove around and I'm like, I have no idea where

the hell this is. And then I called the girl

and she showed up and I followed her back to

her place. and like I'm like you're not gonna

murder me here right cuz I already went through

the creepy tunnel so this is a creepy part of

town and all it was was I just didn't go on the

left side of this house it was the weirdest intersection

I've ever experienced so I wanted to make sure

I was hitting the right intersection so I wasn't

paying attention to my speed or anything so I

got yeah I got nailed what are you gonna do I

wish I got nailed the other way by her Yeah,

it would have been more expensive though. Anyways,

Chuck, how's your week been going? I hear some

sad news that I hear you're seeing another podcast.

Is that true? It's true. I can't deny it any

longer. I'd say a good run. I just felt that

my needs weren't being met. My arrow needs. You

have so many arrow needs though it's so hard

to every week it's just another arrow need I

got a quiver full of that was. But now I. I've

been moonlighting this weekend on the remote

control podcast will you be moonlighting about

moonlighting yes. With a vengeance. It's a good

day to do moonlighting now. Yes, I was on. I

was a guest star on remote control. Guest star

people. Guest star. Yes, guest star. I say star

because, you know, obvious reasons. But now we

talked about Arrow season one and that's already

been out by the time everyone's hearing this

and then. Also coming out this week is the Arrow

Season 2 review. And it was a lot of fun. I had

a lot of fun talking with those guys. But yeah,

I mean, for those that don't know, Group Mode

Control is on geekcastreedo .com. You can check

it out there. It's not on nerdly .co .uk, though.

No, no. And it's not on the nine other places

that we're on. Listen to Chuck on this one. Chuck,

don't cheat anymore. I won't do it, I swear.

It didn't mean anything. I'm glad you got to

get some of that error out of your system. I

know it's a phase. People go through it. You

know, you have needs. I'm glad that they could

be meant by somebody. The grass isn't always

greener on the other side. Let's put it that

way. Yeah. Anything else going on in your week?

I did try to go hunting this past weekend. Archery

season is in Pennsylvania. And so I took my bow

out, went hunting with my dad and stuff. Unfortunately

didn't - Pretended like he was arrow. Yes, I

had the green hood on and everything. I had the

full cam on. And when you saw the deer, were

you like, hey, do you feel this? Yeah, that's

why he ran away. And I think your dad's like,

stop doing that. And I'm on the radio. I'm like,

Roy, take him out. Roy didn't come. So, yeah,

I need to say I didn't get anything, unfortunately,

but be going. Back out again this weekend. So

we'll give that a shot, but i'm dusting up on

my survival skills for the zombie apocalypse,

you know Nice very nice. You'll be the darrell

of the of the zombie apocalypse. Yeah, hopefully

less greasy though Yeah Minus like the degrees

in the fact that you're like a 45 year old man

hitting on a you know, 16 year old girl But besides

that but uh speaking of greasy men I recently

did get the opportunity to see a movie starring

Matthew McConaughey. Was he also rolling his

boogers in this film? I wish, I wish. It'd be

hard to do with the helmet on. It would be. He

would find a way though. Can't get the boogers

out to roll the suckers. He's like and can you

get this one? We're thinking he's been going

to space before he's been paid to go to space.

I think Jim Carrey should just double in all

of his roles But yeah, so by the time this podcast

is released when your cell has been out for a

week or two, but Interstellar way back when I

did a post on like my most anticipated movies

of the year and I stellar it was number two I

believe wasn't it was near the top ten number

one was X -Men days of future past number two

was interstellar and I've only seen the Teaser

trailer. I've been like dying like mad missing

every trailer I possibly can to the point where

I've been in movie theaters and the trailers

been playing And I've been covering my eyes and

like holding my ears and I'm humming and Carol's

sitting next to me going like you were the weirdest

person in the history of the world Why are you

doing that? I'm like I just trying to avoid all

trailers as possible and did a pretty good job

of it So it was like I usually see trailers,

but I've been moving towards like not seeing

them unless We'll be talking about them on the

podcast did people come up to your wife and say

that's so sweet of you to take this special play

But finally I didn't have to worry about doing

that anymore because it was released so I like

I said I had a lot of Anticipation going into

this one, you know, it's Christopher Nolan the

guy who gave us Dark Knight inception Memento,

which might be my favorite Nolan film starring

like a huge cast with Matthew McConaughey who's

been on a roll lately with like a lot of great

movies he was True detective last year won an

oscar random lincoln commercial Random lincoln

commercial. He's rolling boogers, you know He's

got a lot of good things going right now. We

also an hathaway jessica chastain gorgeous an

hathaway Yeah, jessica chastain as well. Who's

no slouch Michael cain, of course because it's

christopher nolan's film so he can't do a movie

without him anymore so a lot of anticipation

going in and I will say this about Interstellar

which is kind of becoming a very controversial

film It's polarizing for sure a lot of people

love it a lot of people hate it and then I find

myself Directly in the middle. I will say I was

greatly disappointed It's probably one of the

most most disappointed movies of the year for

me. What? Yeah, have you seen it? No I disagree

with that shit, but I don't know. I am way more

interested in the fact with the real interstellar

going on. This actually today, the day we're

recording this, they actually I'm not sure exactly

what they landed, but they landed something on

a comet, which I thought was really awesome.

And then Michael Bay is like, why haven't they

exploded? Yeah, why haven't they drilled in?

Why isn't it morphed into another shape with

4 ,000 moving parts? I don't understand this.

It's not sharp enough. With a deep choppy robot

echoey voice. But yeah, I was I was disappointed.

I will give points for it's one. It's a visual

visual spectacle for sure. There are some amazing

visuals, like especially when you get in the

deep space and choose a warm holes and and halfway

gets naked. The best visual. No, unfortunately,

you probably have to go see Love and Other Drugs

if you want to see that type of visual. Sad that

I know that often. It's kind of creepy. What's

up, Mr. Skin? Amazing visuals like that's one

thing no one can do is really bring you in to

the story that way like with inception He had

a lot of great ideas same thing here. The issue

is like the plotting is so Just jumbled and convoluted

There's so much going on the the main basic plot

of it is that earth it's in the future and earth

is dying It's basically come a global dust bowl

where There's very little crops, food has gone

away, and Earth is becoming uninhabitable. So

we have to go someplace else. A wormhole opens

up near Saturn, and they're going to use it to

try to find another world that we can possibly

live in. And the issue becomes, it starts off

well enough, but once it hits like the second

act, things get kind of just overly complicated.

Not that they're confusing, just so the point

where just layer upon layer upon layer and it's

where it's like just kind of unnecessary, where

you can't even really enjoy what's going on because

it just keeps shifting focus. It goes into things

like relativity and how time changes. So you

see, you end up having storylines going through

kind of like multiple timelines per se. Like

the story goes through covers like about at the

end by the end, like almost 150 years or so.

So you almost see like time travel but instead

of a flux capacitor, you know They use gravity

because of the effects of the planet but so with

all these multiple storylines and multiple ideas

and really grand huge ideas about humanity and

our ability to survive and what you know, what

really drives us and what's what sets humanity

apart from everything else and what's going to

be the key component in our survival a lot of

big huge ideas But it just it's hard to even

really Get focused on those when you have so

much plot going on and it I don't know at the

end of the day I just was so disconnected by

it. Like I just didn't get the feel like these

characters were ever really Well thought out

they were just so plot heavy that you never really

got a time just to kind of experience who they

were so it may be better on the rewatch where

you can Kind of get through some of that convolution

and just focus on what's important. But like

yeah, I do have a Review on geek ass radio .com,

but I was hoping for this to be one of my favorite

films of the year And it is nowhere near that

so I mean, I think it's worth seeing and I think

it's something that Some people might absolutely

love and I can understand that and I could see

people hating it But to me, I just there are

stuff I enjoyed. I just wanted wanted something

more I wanted to be wowed and I never really

was I was just kind of like, oh, that's interesting

And I don't know. So maybe my expectations were

just too high But unfortunately, I didn't I did

not walk away very happy. So do any of you guys

have any interest in that movie at all? Not really.

No, I don't. I don't think so. I guess from the

I know you've avoided the trailers, but I I saw

a trailer because of another movie that I saw

in the theater recently. But it just I don't

know. It didn't look appealing to me as I thought,

you know, earlier in this year when I saw like

the really the teaser trailer for it. Have have

you seen Inception at all? No, because I feel

like his movies have been going very, very like

in the head like very thought like trying to

get multiple thoughts going. It's just too much.

It's too busy. It's too. It's trying to be too.

It's too hard. Yeah. It's too hard to figure

out. That's why my parents won't watch The Matrix.

They're like, it's too complicated. I don't want

to think that hard for it. And I feel like this

is like like his movies are getting even well

beyond like Matrix level of how the hell is this

all working? Yeah, I will say with inception

and I never I don't know. Yeah, it's kind of

high -level concept But the way it's edited the

way it's it's done. It really doesn't matter.

It's handled really well I would highly I love

inception. It's I thought that was one of the

Best movies of that year and I think it's just

really brilliantly directed and there's a lot

of great stuff in it So I would I would recommend

seeing an inception Interstellar. I it's one.

Like I said, I think I you know, it's worth a

watch, but I would probably say it's probably

Nolan's worst film Next to the following which

is this first movie, which was basically a glorified

student movie But I still think my favorite Nolan

movie is a memento But anyways, I will stop talking

because I'm rambling but how dare you ramble

Well, Greg, I know last week you talked about,

you read one half of a graphic novel that had

a certain story in it. Were you able to read

the second half? I did read the second half and

it's that Bill Willingham book I have in front

of me right now, Big Doings and Bad Things, I

believe is the name of it. It's a big deluxe

book that I got was hardcover and it was like

50 bucks, but I got it for cheap in the Baltimore

Con. And I only read the first story out of it

for the last podcast, I believe. And I've actually

finished it up. And it's all really good. It's

all like this kind of stuff that you love from

Bill Willingham diving deep into like very mythological

kind of stories deals with subjects of death,

monsters and mythology, all this really great

stuff that I'm really into. And he always has

this unique take on it. It's got various different

artists for all the different stories and everything.

And it ranges, but definitely he's the best artist

to go with his stuff is definitely Mark Buckingham,

the guy who also illustrates the stories that

Bill has done for fables. And I think they go

together really great. And one of my favorites

from all those that I've read is probably, I

think it's just called The Hollows. It doesn't

have Mark Buckingham on illustrations, but the

story is just so weird. It's really short. It's

just, I think it was in a comic. filled with

other stories and they're all very horror related.

And I didn't understand it too much but it was

just an interesting concept to me where this

young girl moves into this town and she's like

very like 1950s type looking girl and she moves

back to her hometown or something and she's being

quartered by all these people but all the people

are actually flies. Like they're giant flies

and like all the flies are hitting on her then

she finally marries one and that is the one she

marries Jeff Goldblum No, I don't think any of

them were Jeff Goldblum. That's disappointing

and She actually marries one of them and they

on their honeymoon night They she gets impregnated

and she she doesn't go through a normal like

human birth She has a birth like a fly. So she

essentially ends up die because all the the fly

babies the maggots like come gushing out of her

body and she's just like this lifeless husk and

then the you see the flies come babies like little

baby flies and grow up So it's like a heartwarming

tale. Oh, yeah. Very heartwarming. By heartwarming,

I mean, you're throwing up a lot. So that's really

heating up your body. But it was just it was

just a weird, sick, twisted little thing going

on there. But he always has a unique and interesting

take. But on the other side of that, I watched

three movies that were kind of in a whole big

series. I didn't watch all of them. No. But it

kind of ran on the other end of things. It's

another famous name in comics, and it's Clive

Baker. And it was the Hellraiser series, which

I've never seen before. And I was always kind

of interested in seeing it, but I just haven't

gotten around to it. Because around Halloween

time, you'd always see, I believe, people called

him Pinhead. so I was always interested in what

the story was behind that and so I ended up watching

the movies and I've come to realize that Pinhead

isn't even like the main villain in these stories

and that just kind of left me disappointed for

the most part because I was expecting this great

kind of interesting backstory but it was just

all this weirdness going on that was like had

to deal with a lot of sex and violence and bondage

and like it was just really weird sick twisted

shit what you expect from clive barker but like

it didn't even connect the stories really didn't

connect for me to make something really cohesive

or understandable of what everybody's kind of

goals are in this story so i i don't know how

it got a cult classic following but it does And

for all the sex stuff that they talk about, there's

not a lot of nudity going on in it. So why even

bother? Yeah, exactly. If you're going to sell

it as that, I just kind of wasn't interested

in it, but I just kind of kept watching because

I was trying to price comic books. So it was

something in the background to kind of listen

to. Oh, I can understand that. Yeah. Got a little

bit of a good background TV show or movie or

podcast, like Talking Circles. That's what I

do with podcasts. I've been listening to smog

cast at work I've started from the beginning

listening to Kevin Smith and Scott Mosher So

I like I used to listen to that show but then

I'd get worried to listen to at work Like my

headphones would not you know, and they're very

well Kevin Smith is highly like oh Then you'd

be going down on your woman like it's even more

explicit than that So I wouldn't talk don't listen

to smod cast at work Okay, we're not allowed

to listen to anything at work anymore. So really

yeah, they like they monitor like The bandwidth

and if people are streaming it shows up and like

people get in trouble Wow, you can't even stream

like a radio station. That's ridiculous Wow Before

we go I actually didn't want to mention one comic

because last week we talked a lot about saga

and I mentioned how I was kind of getting in

the digital comics and one comic that I that

I read that the digital comic was from the author

of Saga Brian cave -on and it's called the private

eye and it's a really great book and what's kind

of interesting about it is that it like I mentioned

it's a it's only released online and What's kind

of funny about that though? Because it's about

a comic book that takes place in the not -so

-distant future where there is no internet there

was an event that happened with the internet

where Everyone's information was released all

at once and it caused this huge backlash So because

of that you see a world where privacy becomes

a very important thing people wear a lot of masks

when they walk outside Like I mentioned, there's

no internet. No connection really almost like

the reaction to the digital age it's a really

interesting bucket if I was this one teenager

who is a private detective and He is hired by

this one lady to find out information about About

something and in the process the person that

hired him it gets killed and then he begins to

try to investigate And why that happened? So

it's kind of like a futuristic noir, but in similar

art style to that of Saga. It's not the same

artist I apologize what I forget Fiona staple

Yeah, it's not Fiona staples and somebody else.

Yeah, but really interesting though Is that every

page pretty much is a splash page and not not

necessarily where it's like, you know No words,

but it's like a wide angle lens for each For

each page every every page is two pages if that

makes sense, you know, so you don't you open

it. It's always wide like wide frame Yeah, very

expansive kind of look to it. Yeah, so it's landscape

basically and that's the the style of the book

and It's actually really good. It really interesting.

I read the first volume And what's kind of cool

about it is that you can go it's from the panel

syndicate, which is brian keyvon's like own online

source and pay as you go or whatever it's you

Give any price you would want you can buy the

first volume buy and there's a few other comics

after that So it's all online. They don't have

any physical form of it, which is kind of like

I mentioned ironic knowing that it's About a

world where there is no internet. So there's

a lot of clever Satire of today's age like the

guy who the private eye he lives next to his

grandfather who comes from our generation and

it's interesting to seeing Like the mentality

of today's, you know, 20 year olds, something

in the mind, in the body of an 80 year old man,

you know, with like the tattoos that are cool

now. And you realize how ridiculous they'll look

on an old person and they're still playing video

games. And it's just, it's kind of like the,

with the dialogue and it's. Makes you think of

that and what that's going to be like. It's a,

it's really interesting in that way. It's, it's

one of the better commentaries on today's society

that I've read in a while. So I would recommend

that. And within that, just a really great story,

an interesting world, uh, where like information

is becoming very guarded and to get it, it's

very difficult. So I could, I could see this

being like, if it was read aloud. On the radio

somehow being like the first war of the worlds

when it was first read like on the radio and

people thought it was true and like freaked out

like Everybody like everyone's security is breached

online like everybody would just lose it. Yeah,

it's interesting and It's it's funny in that

extent so if you go to the panel set again You

can actually you know, like I said pick up the

entire first volume for like a dollar which is

insane It's weird though The only bad thing is

that the release because he's doing it himself

in like his own With his own like company like

the release schedule of it's kind of weird like

it will go a few months or more than a few months

Before another issue is released, but I just

found out about it now and i'm only up to the

first volume I think there was like three or

four more issues that were released. So But yeah,

if you you have to read it digitally though,

I know that's kind of like I said sacrilegious

for some people What do you guys think about

that? Do you think that's kind of a feature of

comics where it's like the pay -as -you -go type

of model? It's it's kind of pay -as -you -go

right now with but With with comics because you

get one issue at a time just buying it from a

store So it's more so like pay what you feel

is Pays you like you can pay a dollar or you

can pay five dollars. It's what you feel the

comics worth From things I've been seeing like

restaurants and stuff like that where they let

you pay what you want. I've heard of restaurants

actually kind of coming out above the average

really with people paying that way. They usually

get a lot more money than they expected. I kind

of wish Brian cave on all the luck in the world

because his stuff is usually pretty damn good

especially with saga and I've liked his He's

he's been one of the writers on under the dome

and I thought the first season of that was really

great. So Would maybe check it out and see what

you think you can preview of the comics on online

But would that be would that at all get you into

digital comics? Chuck if you knew you could buy

a brand new comic or something our entire volume

of comic for Whatever you price you see fit.

No, I gotta say not at all I'm just I'm very

old -fashioned was like I want to have something

holding my hand to call mine and because when

everything goes dark one day Not if when you're

going to have your hunting skills and your comic.

I know I'm going to have my comics on the shelf

and you say those right there. They're mine.

Yeah, you don't touch those. Very nice. I understand

that. I I never see myself going for fully digital

comics. I mean, like it's. There's something

about owning it that feels like complete, you

know, you never really feel like you own something

digitally. Even it's like movies. It's just,

it just feels like you're renting it or leasing

it or something. Like, yeah, it's just, you're

just a computer crash away from losing it. So

depending, I mean, some places you can get it

in multiple locations, but still, it just never

feels like you own it, especially because I love

collecting movies and You know, it's like buying

it on iTunes is like, I don't get a case. I can't

put it on my shelf. Yeah, it's easy. You have

something to look at there, you know, and display

and be like, I've watched all of these or I've

read all of these books or or I bought all these

books and read none of them. It's like a trophy

case. It's like, yeah, these are these are all

the battles that I've won. These are, you know,

I've conquered these. Yeah, very nice. Very nice.

And we'll be trying to conquer more battles when

we. you are fact or fiction to try to determine,

you know, what's right and what's wrong. But

we'll take a quick break and we'll be back in

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and welcome back and like I mentioned at the

top of the show we are getting into our Infamous

fact or fiction and yes, you're not mistaken

Those words that you just heard those rap lyrics

that you just went through your ears are from

our very own DJ master himself Greg Bepler So

I got I got a command Greg on his amazing rap

lyrics So amazing it took me about five minutes

to come up with them even less Nice did you drop

the mic when you were done to like yeah, I dropped

my whole computer because that was acting as

my Mike Very nice very nice, would you appreciate

that so add some little flavor? To our uh to

our little activity here and for those who've

never heard us do factor fiction It's pretty

self -explanatory, but just go over it greg chuck

and I will be giving out statements to one another

statements can be about anything from Movies

tv really anything's on the table And then we'll

be trying to determine if that statement is fact

or if it's fiction and explain why you get it.

You got it. Good So it don't screw you You know

catch up. You need to catch up We're gonna go

Nolan on you and just leave you behind but Chuck

do you want to? Well, let you kick it off with

what you have this week for factor fiction sure

I will kick it off and I think Dan I'll start

with you this is only because this is the first

question that came to my mind and I think The

next one would be suited more for Greg. So Let's

see, okay factor fiction for the most part DC's

upcoming slate of films will be more financially

successful than Marvel's Phase 3. I will say

fiction because with Man of Steel not doing very

well and the fact that Guardians of the Galaxy

made more money than in every other Marvel movie

except for The Avengers, I think Marvel just

kind of has... The upper hand at this point and

when people trust them, yeah Batman versus Superman

are probably do really well But I don't know

if like suicide squads really gonna bring people

in or cyborg or you know, yeah If they built

out the response like it took a while before

Marvel could get something like Guardians of

the Galaxy so I don't know if you know DC if

If Batman versus Superman not very good then

maybe they'll have to rethink what they're doing

So you don't think Marvel will be kind of like

overdoing it and people kind of jump ship over

to DC or is it more of like if Marvel's doing

Overdoing it then it's gonna be the superhero

genre in general being overdone Yeah, I would

say if Marvel's not doing well, that's also a

bad sign for DC. Yeah, so I think marvel is more

welcoming so far with a lot of the movies are

more upbeat where dc's films have been really

dark and dreary I mean batman and superman's

huge because those are huge name brands, but

I don't know if like suicide squads are gonna

have the same appeal like Plus dc or marvel has

disney behind them and disney knows how to market

Warner Brothers I think doesn't know what to

do with half the characters or have to really

how to make them appealing to people. Yeah I

just I have more faith in marvel until dc Yeah,

it does otherwise. Yeah. Greg, do you have any

opinion on that or? I kind of agree with Dan.

Marvel's been proven for the most part with the

story building recent years than DC has really,

so. Yeah, I would tend to agree as well. I think

Marvel's just got it rolling right now and it's

going to be hard to compete with. I know, I mean,

DC's doing it right now because this is the time

to do it. All the cool kids are doing it, but.

So yeah. Okay, so my next one is for Greg. This

will be not entirely serious. It's meant to be

a little bit funny. So, Greg, fact or fiction?

You will wait in line overnight if need be to

get the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Blu -ray.

Fiction. I don't think that needs any explanation.

It ruins my childhood. I actually just watched

the original one. I think it was yesterday or

the day before. I loved it so much more than

the new one. After seeing them so close together,

I'm like, yeah, this was so much better. It was

so much more heartfelt. I'm like, probably it

was just better. It's like looking it up. Ugly

painting when it's like the only painting there.

It's like, what's not that bad, but you put an

extra good one. It's like, oh gosh. Yeah. I did

enjoy it. Can't, can't argue with that. Yeah.

Question for you, Greg, how much does that change?

If you find out the blu -ray has an extended

scene with Megan Fox naked. Don't look it up

on the internet. That's what the internet's for,

right? Honesty. Yeah, mr. Skin. Exactly. I mean

I have no idea Apparently just didn't hear that

part Alright, so Greg. Well, I guess we can stick

with you and what do you have some facts or fiction

sure? This one's kind of for I have ones that

kind of go for both you guys, I guess so Fact

or fiction people will flock to the Dorito flavored

Mountain Dew I'm assuming Dan hasn't heard of

it from that reaction. No, I have not. But the

fact, the sad fact is it is fact because people

will go for that because people are crazy. Because

some guy playing video games is just like it's

two and one. It's killing two birds with one

stone. Time savers to space saver. Yeah. Want

I want to get fat and I want to be lazy about

it. So Wow, I don't know Chuck. What do you think

I? Remember reading about this last week. They

said like Pepsi company begins testing on I'm

like really testing that's kind of a strong word

like But I think I think it will go over big

at first Obviously, depending on the taste, that's

going to determine whether people stick with

it. But I kind of liken it to the Burger King,

like bacon flavored ice cream or whatever they

have. Like, you know, people are going to try

it. There's no doubt. Like if you put two things

together that people like, they're just the curiosity

just gets the best of them. So I would I would

say fact. I think people are going to flock to

it at first. See, I had that one time that I

went camping. I don't think you guys were there

for that one. I did have a Frosted flakes with

Mountain Dew acting as milk the one morning.

Way too much sugar. They're freaking great. I'm

telling you you gotta try the sugar. You guys

wanna go to the beach? Wanna go to the beach?

Let's go to the beach. I didn't think we should

go to the beach. Let's go to the beach. Come

on guys. Where's the frosted flakes? I need more

frosted flakes. Do we have Mountain Dew? Let's

get some Mountain Dew in here. We should have

had milk here because I don't think this was

a good option. You didn't blink for like four

weeks after that, Jesus Christ. Have you ever

had crack? No, but I have had frosted flakes

in a bowl of Mountain Dew, so. And, oh my God,

it was so sickly sweet. The leftover afterwards,

the Mountain Dew that was left after eating the

frosted flakes, it was undrinkable. Did it crystallize

and become a solid? I didn't have it for that

long. I just ate the frosted flakes out of it

because I needed a little bit moisture with my

cereal and I was done. I should have just went

with water. That probably would have been the

better choice, but I was being dumb, I guess.

Turns out that's the only chemical solution that

will melt adamantium. Well, Wolverine eats that

we could get as his corpse out of the adamantium

that he was melted into and died from Yeah, sorry,

I didn't know he died they didn't put that on

Marvel didn't publicize that nearly enough for

six months I guess for my next question fact

or fiction the end is nigh Will go with well

we what we're about in 45 minutes into it. So

I'll say you fact we're near the end of the podcast

Maybe in the next 20 minutes or so so fact nigh

being near as for those that don't know that

because I've met several who don't The end is

the end is Bill Nye Wait now I has a nice end

I think I think the end is always near because

our perception of time is So skewed very small

Sound like you just watch an interstellar. Yeah

Very nice. All right, so I have a few here as

well and mine are kind of universal but all well

this one I think is Directed solely towards Greg

though And Greg and I kind of stole this off

of the recent episode poster from last episode

because someone mentioned it So I figured I would

ask you here last week We talked about saga and

my question would be to you saga will go down

as the greatest comic of this generation factor

fiction Well, I don't know what's coming out

next, but I think so far From what we have so

far, I would go with a fact on that. I don't

agree with TGF1 Mike's comments of the three

that he had, really. I definitely think Saga

is up there, and I think Mike is a little off.

I know Mike usually agrees with my statements,

but apparently he doesn't agree with my taste

in Saga. I don't think he's ever read it. Read

it, Mike. Read it. I command it from up high

to check this out. Everybody's talking about

it. Yeah, and then you'll hate it and be like,

oh, sorry Yeah, yeah, it's not your bag, baby,

I don't think you want to see a giant man Cyclops

with its freaking huge -ass balls hanging out

Yeah giant set of balls for mankind And Chuck

this one I guess Greg you can chime in but I

know you're not a fan of the cosmic Marvel stuff

So you might not have an opinion on this but

I know for a very long time You're you had a

fascination first with Silver Surfer and cutting

a lot of the Marvel Cosmic stuff in general.

So a fact or fiction Silver Surfer is still Marvel's

best cosmic character despite the recent success

of Guardians of the Galaxy That is tough Now

are you talking like my opinion or like the populace?

Opinion i'm thinking your opinion like overall

best character not necessarily the most popular

I would say fact I think I think he has like

a I hate using big weird words like this, but

he has like a dichotomy to him just like there's

something interesting like about what he was

willing to do to try to save his planet and you

know, a lot of stuff has happened since then

and everything and he went back to Galactus and

everything involved with that but I think his

character reminds me a lot of like a Captain

America too, like just always wanting to do the

right thing and like really noble guy and I haven't

read any not much with him in recently. Know

he was in like fear itself a little bit and stuff

like that So I don't know all the details of

what's going on with his story But I yeah, there

is a recent comic that came out. I haven't read

it that came out I heard good things though the

one that was released. Yeah, and I know he's

like you know, he was still considered with the

annihilators when I I read that Thanos original

graphic novel the infinity revelation and I do

like him a lot on that team I think he brings

like some good leadership to that team and stuff.

So and you know, I got a soft spot for him. So

yeah Yeah. Do you think he is a strong enough

character to support his own movie? I do. Yeah.

I think if they can pull off something like Guardians

and they're attempting something like in humans,

I think they could definitely make a movie about

Silver Surfer and it would be better than a lot

of other movies, you know? Yeah. I mean, just

need to get it away from Fox's greedy hands and

they could actually do it right. Yeah. And, you

know, and not make him like a blogger, like they're

going to make Dr. Doom. Oh, I just saw the idea

of Dr. Doom's origin was changing. I just kept

reading because I'm like, it's just going to

be. Yeah, I tried not to get too much into it

because I knew it would tick me off. But yeah,

I mean, you got the whole thing with Shalabal.

So you got the love interest and it's just a

big part of the story. And then, you know, his

sacrifice to save his world of Zen Law and going

with Galactus and everything. And, you know,

as long as you make Galactus like not a giant

cloud. I think that would work really well. And

all the, like all the strange people he meets,

like you look at something like Guardians of

the Galaxy where like the world building and

all the different people you saw at the prison

and stuff like that, like you could just see

so many people that Silver Surfer would meet

along the way. Howard the Duck. And then when

he, yeah, and when he comes to Earth and how

he breaks that vow because of the likeness he

sees with Earth people with those of his own

planet, so. Very cool. Very cool. Yeah, I think

there's definitely some potential there those

fantastic for rise of super silver surfer its

issues aside there were a lot of them I thought

there were a lot of good elements of silver surfer

in that and Especially even special effects wise

and thinking about how much we have gotten better

with that. I think some potential there He's

a I don't know if I would say he's the best cosmic

character. He's certainly up there I have a soft

spot for Nova. So yeah, I don't know but though

he keeps changing so it's hard to hard to really

claim that But yeah, so let's bring it back over

to you, Chuck. Do you have any more Factor Fiction?

I do. Let's see. I'll go with this one. I know

we discussed this a little bit on the break earlier

when no one was listening. Except for the NSA.

Big Brother's always listening. I could throw

this out to either of you. Either of you can

chime in. Factor Fiction, Marvel's new Secret

Wars story is a better approach than the original

one in the 80s. If you haven't if you haven't

heard there's there's some trailers out there

and on YouTube and stuff Marvel did some promotional

things with this the secret war story that they're

coming out with next year sort of taking chunks

of Earth from different realities and to be under

building like a battle world I think I kind of

got to have to say fact because I think it opens

up the door to more variety of characters and

you can With it being in different universes.

Maybe you can actually have some real live like

actual mistakes happen like, you know, because

sometimes with those big story stories, you know,

you're kind of limited in what you can do. But

if it's taking place in multiple universes, maybe

you'll be more free with what you can do to some

of these characters and you wouldn't be too afraid

to kill some off or if need be not that you need

to to make a good story. But I don't know, like

I'm a sucker for multiple universes and different

universes and seeing. Just the idea of like seeing

the 90s x -men next to the age of apocalypse.

Yeah that That just seems intriguing to me That

was a selling point for me too that the fact

that they're doing the 90s x -men cartoon universe

Included in it. I was like, wow, this just blew

my mind So I I gotta say I agree I think they

almost didn't need to even like call it the secret

wars or whatever they're calling it I mean could

be something new. Yeah I think it has potential.

I don't know if it'll be better, but I think

I like the initial concept a little bit more

What about you Greg? I haven't really heard much

about the new one except for what you guys have

talked about now and All the stuff that you guys

mentioned sounds really awesome to me. So All

right. So we got three three votes for yes on

sweet and my second one again this could be thrown

out to either of you guys and I know you haven't

probably seen all the new fall TV shows, but

My general question to you guys is, fact or fiction,

Gotham is the worst of the new fall TV shows.

I haven't really watched a lot of the new fall

TV shows. I've been kinda out doing stuff out

in the actual real world and I've kinda fallen

off of watching Gotham. Not because I didn't

like it, but because I was out doing stuff and

I just... But I actually thought Gotham was was

really well done. But since it's the only thing

I've actually watched, I'll go with fact that

there are fiction that is one of the better things

on fall TV, because I haven't really seen that

much. I will go with fact. Actually, I'll disagree

with Greg and say it. I don't know how many episodes

you've watched, Greg. I think I've watched. I

stopped after the balloon episode. I don't even

know one. Which one? I think that was like three.

Yeah, I think it's like that. Was not connecting

with it and I don't have that much time when

it comes to watching television because I have

a lot of movies to watch I Mean I've watched

a few new TV shows or at least shows that have

come back like, you know Walking Dead Brooklyn

nine nine. I don't know if there's any I just

I finally watched the flash pilot and if you

compare it to even just like the Cotton a new

season of arrow and when you compare it to that

type of stuff, I think it's it's not nearly as

good So I would say I don't know like in general

because I I know there's a lot of shows that

have been cancelled already And there's probably

a lot of bad shows but out of the shows I was

interested in and I've watched I would say you

have fact It's uh, at least most disappointing

show I've watched so far. It might have gotten

better, but don't know because I stop watching

Yeah, I would tend to agree. I I haven't watched

all of them either. But for the ones I've watched

like You know, Flash is awesome, really into

Scorpion so far. And like you mentioned, Arrow

and Walking Dead are back and they're awesome.

And even though they're not new, but they're

new seasons. And I know the one there was one

with the guy that played Mr. Fantastic in the

Fantastic Four movie. Oh, forever. Yeah. I believe

that got canceled already, I think. Right. I

have no idea if it got canceled. My parents will

be very disappointed if it did. I could be wrong

there, but I don't know but uh, that's what you

get for calling it forever You know, and I actually

I've seen Constantine too And I've actually like

that a good amount the first episode was actually

been the best episode so far But uh that show

surprised me a great deal I didn't have much

faith in it and it's been good so far and keep

my wife's liked it as well So it's hard to find

shows. We both like yeah All right, Greg back

over to you Going also back to something we mentioned

earlier in the podcast, but we actually did have

on air landing on a comet will lead to an industry

of harvesting elements from them. Factor fiction

guys. Hey Chuck, why don't you take that one

to start off? I'm giving you guys the opportunity

to be futurists. I know, Dan, I insist on being

polite. You really take no. No, you 20 minutes

later. No, you. I'm going to go fact as a as

the human. I'm getting all existential now, but

the human race were very curious people. And

of course, we're very greedy as well. So I think

with those two things combined, there's no way

we're going to pass up the opportunity to. Basically

dig for valuable crap on floating rocks in space

They're easy targets for us to land on and try

to you know, try to find stuff on I'm gonna go

with fiction because what it's really gonna lead

to it's a new parody song by the Lonely Island

band called I'm on a comet and That'll be the

biggest I'm on a comet. Yeah, that's gonna be

that that's what it's really gonna lead to is

I'm on a comet I'm gonna call it right now. No,

I think fact Yeah, I think it's gonna lead to

a few things I'll forget in two No, I think similar

to what Chuck was saying I think it It will lead

to something in some ways, because I know there's

been a lot of research regarding comets and the

minerals and whatnot that they have that could

be, you know, very beneficial to that Earth.

And like Chuck said, we're always looking to

get ahead in some way. So if there's money that

can be made, someone's going to try to make it,

even if it's Dr. Doom. think it would be interesting

to see with the effects on the economy if this

does actually happen, if we do start scavenging

comets and different stuff going by, by either

landing on them and mining or having some kind

of tractor beam, which I know is, I've heard

is kind of in development to try and figure out

some way to net a comet and bring it in to be

salvaged for different resources and elements

that maybe sparse on our planet. So I think that'd

be interesting if all of a sudden we collect

a comment that's like this giant diamond comment,

the prices of diamonds go down and like what

effect that will have on other things as we go

along here. It's interesting you bring that up

because I was just watching a show the other

day about. Like asteroid impacts and like their

likelihood of hitting the earth and stuff like

that mm -hmm and they got into talking about

like you know if we did spot one and they did

the The orbital calcs and figured it's you know

gonna hit us in so many years. What could we

do to prevent it? Yeah, and they're just going

through the methods of like what they could use

and the one guy's like well obviously everyone

wants to nuke it, but he's like you could have

more bad things come from that than good like

you could have it like basically just bounce

off the surface and not blow it up and or you

could create like just a whole bunch of shrapnel

with a bunch of little pieces. Yeah, be like

a giant shotgun shell coming at you. Yeah. And

then they got talking about some of the better

methods where they could send up like a satellite

with this huge mirror on it and just reflect

the sunlight onto one surface. And if one side

is hotter than the other, that's actually going

to affect the rotation of it, which is going

to affect the orbit of it. And over so many miles

and then so many years of orbiting, it's going

to change its path enough to like potentially

miss us. That's an interesting one that I haven't

heard of actually. Yeah. And then there was another

version of like, well, if it's, you know, if

one side of it's like white and one side's black,

you know, the two different colors would reflect

light differently. And, but the guy's like, I

don't think we can go up there with buckets of

paint and like paint. But one of the cool things

like paintball watched at it through space. A

couple of things are like they could attach these

thrusters to it. They can attach these things

that are like big parachutes or something, which

I don't know how that would work. But and the

one was, like you said, the tractor beam, which

these two astronauts came up with was just like

this huge vessel that they would park next to

it sort of. And, you know, the gravity of the

asteroid would want to pull the vessel in. But

the vessel has thrusters to keep it a certain

distance away. So it's essentially pulling the

asteroid in tow. Now, you know, so it's like

kind of enough to like get it off its course.

But yeah, that stuff's fascinating. I talk about

that all day. Yeah, I was I was actually watching

something similar and they talked about one of

the best methods was they felt would have no

downside was actually if they shot kim kardashian's

ass They had to comment that it would in fact

then cause it to stop so I guess that does beg

the question if we landed kim kardashian's ass

on a comet would that in fact break the internet

Anyways, i'm sorry to bring out the intellectual

conversation and then I immediately destroyed

it I think I was the one that was bringing up

intellectual stuff, Dan. But let's see for my

next one. I think I'm going to go further down

my list because there's interesting ones. Let's

see. Comic book collectors are hoarders, guys.

Factor fiction. I will say they are fact. They

are hoarders, but more organized. Good answer.

Chuck. Yeah, I would I would say fact and. Yeah,

I would agree with the organized to some extent

but Eventually with me I get into I get into

hoarding other stuff other than comics like I

start hoarding everything Which is not good.

Yeah As long as you're not hoarding dead No,

just comics about dead cats now But yeah, I'm

convinced you guys are going to see me on one

of those episodes of extreme horrors one day

or something. I'm just going to be buried with

like graphic novels, action figures, hero clicks.

I feel like all cards at my parents' house that

will happen. And I'm scared, deathly scared of

that DVDs, sports figures. Those are some really

great questions, hopefully I can live up to your

Well, no, well, I think this one is nearly as

intellectual as the comment question Greg and

I'll direct this one towards you Emily Clark

in image what rada -jokowski got into a fight

winner would be great facts if I was there for

it and everything I and if I accidentally fell

into the fight. Accidentally. Whoops. That man

just threw himself into those women. That would

be that's like the best dream ever that can go

on I my mind would explode I. Don't think I would

be I'm barely functioning after getting asked

that question. So if it actually happened, I

don't think I would be able to function You'd

be like getting the same feeling of eating frosted

flakes except just in one area This one Chuck

I'm directing towards you but I think Greg you

can chime in as well After X -Men apocalypse

Fox should reboot the X -Men franchise with an

entirely new cast and creative team Fiction so

you think they should keep just keep going with

the people that have yeah. Well, honestly, I

think I think they just stop after apocalypse

Well, depending on where they go. I mean, I know

I know they want to kind of move on with the

younger cast and everything So maybe there'll

be something good. You know, I'm sure once I

see apocalypse, I'll be like, OK, I want one

more. But, yeah, I would be content even if they

just made apocalypse and because that that's

kind of the guy I've been waiting for all along

to be the villain. And then obviously, after

that, I'm going to want juggernaut. And then

after that, I'm going to want, you know, you

go. Listen, that's not juggernaut. That's Vinnie

Jones in a. Styrofoam muscle suit. That's not

even that's not even the J of Juggernaut. Like,

that's not even. But no, I definitely wouldn't

reboot it. I'm and I'm especially happy with

with the new younger cast like James McAvoy and,

gosh, trying to think Michael Fassbender and

obviously Jennifer Lawrence and Michael Holt.

Is it or? Yeah. Nicholas Holt. Sorry. I actually

like him a lot, too. So yeah, I would just keep

going with them if they're gonna make any more

past Apocalypse. Greg, what do you think? Do

you think they should reboot it after Apocalypse,

stop it, or just keep going? Well, I'd like to

see what's going on with the Apocalypse movie.

And I do enjoy this younger cast, especially

from the first movie, which, very controversially,

I enjoyed the X -Men first class better than

I did enjoy the second one. I know that's controversial,

but... I agree with you. I called X -Men first

class of the best Marvel movie, which I know

is not necessarily universal, but still it's

yeah and I'd like to actually get a little bit

I'd like to get a little bit more intimate with

some of the characters and on an individual basis

Like I would definitely like to check out more

of like Michael Fassbender Because I so enjoyed

his magneto and watch the movie shame because

then you'll see I don't need to see that part,

but I'd like to see more of like an individual

Magneto movie kind of more in the past. Yeah,

I was just gonna ask you that do you think that

a movie just with Fassbender as Magneto would

work? I think that'd be really sweet and I'd

also love an individual kind of Jennifer Lawrence

mystique movie just because I think she's awesome

and she's brought a lot of mystique. If they

do the Magneto one, they got to have that theme

music that you love so much. Oh, yeah that music

The best the best Music I've heard in a film,

I think Yeah, I love that's one of my favorite

of all the Marvel film is my favorite theme.

Yeah that that song just gets me motivated Eric

truck we're bringing it back to you. Do you have

any more factor fiction? You see go with Dan

for this one. But again anybody can chime in

factor fiction NFL needs to get rid of Thursday

night games First of all messes up with our podcast

I don't know. I watch it while you guys are talking

and the games are usually shit anyway So I don't

feel like I'm missing that much without the sound

on so you're watching shit rather than listening

to us Thanks a lot. Thanks. I listen to you guys

and then I just look at the shit on the TV Say

fact cuz like Greg you mentioned the games are

always awful Even like when I do get the chance

to watch them They're just really inconvenient

when it comes to fantasy football perspective

because they're always hard to predict and people

get injured more often and That like they just

make it annoying because it's like you need to

set stuff a week a few days earlier And I think

the worst thing about Thursday night football

is the fact that it makes Thanksgiving mean less

It's not nearly as unique and as an experience

and it's so cold like have football just on Thursdays

for Thanksgiving and we do it every week it's

not nearly as exciting and it's just I don't

know I hate everything about it there to me.

It's just yeah fact get rid of Thursday night

Yeah, Greg. What do you think? Yeah, I agree

It's it's doing nothing not a lot of people can

see it anyway because it's on the NFL Network

So it's kind of pointless But I think like a

lot of like this games that they put on TV anymore

are kind of the shitty games Especially the games

that started one o 'clock on Sundays for us.

It's on the East Coast. It's just like they always

put the local games on and they have been really

shitty lately. Games that I know I don't care

about like at all. I think the one was Jets versus

somebody and I was like, who's this shit? Why

are they trying to sell us on the Jets? Yeah,

I'm really sick of seeing all the Steelers games.

That's like freaking annoying. Yeah. The Steelers

are doing shit this year, so who gives a crap?

Sorry to both of you. I'm not sure if you guys

will have heard of this yet, but I'll go out

on a limb anyway and see. We'll see how it goes.

Fact or fiction? The new Transporter TV series

based on the Jason Statham movies has the potential

to be just as well liked as the films. Ah, fiction.

I feel like those movies are like set up because

of Jason Statham. Jason Statham is the one that's

giving it the badass feel. I don't know who's

playing Jason Statham's character of Frank Martin,

but it's a lot of shoe to fill with Jason Statham

because he is just badass. Yeah, yeah. Yeah,

I agree with Greg I would I would call it fiction

and I would equate it to like when they try to

do the blade TV series and they try to get someone

else to play blade you're like Yeah, it's kind

of a you know, you're taking away one of the

biggest reasons that you watch that movie. So

Any transporter especially when he goes by the

name sticky fingers Yeah, I didn't know they

were making a transporter TV series, but that

makes me sad in the inside Isn't like, I think

there's some episodes out already. Right, Craig?

I haven't seen it. I just know that I just saw

like an advertisement. I was like, really? I

don't know if I watched a little bit of it online

or if it was on TV or what it was, but I watched.

I watched like some of it and it seemed interesting.

It was like the beginning of an episode. And

I mean, he's clearly not Statham, but they try

to make. They try to paint the same picture,

like the black Audi and, you know, putting on

the driving gloves and everything. And it's just

like, really? I love the way you stated that

they're trying to paint the same picture. Because

all I could picture is like Vincent van Gogh's

starry night and then some little two -year -old

trying. to do the same thing. I feel like that's

the equivalent. I got this. This guy cut off

his ear. How smart can he be? Yeah, I don't know.

I mean, it's I would be interested to check out

a few episodes like that's on my list of things

to do, but I definitely agree with you guys.

I don't think it has that kind of potential that

the films do. I think those were very highly

regarded. And like you said, Greg, Statham just

takes it up a notch. All right, Greg, over to

you. What's next on your list? Skip around here

a little bit. Let's see. I'll ask a really non

-serious question. You guys, factor fiction.

People are all about the bass. About the bass.

About the bass. No treble. I will go fact because

it's from that singer and she would not lie.

Because, you know, brothers can't deny. When

the a -bitty things walks in with a thing up

in your face, you get sprung. Yeah, and then

something about anaconda. So, fact. My anaconda

don't want none unless you got buns, hon. Anacondas

love hot dogs, apparently. Chuck is no comment,

I'm guessing. I forget what we were talking about.

I did too. Oh, the bass thing. I'm going to say

fiction because I don't like a lot of bass. It

annoys me. It vibrates my body and I don't like

it. But you could feel like the flash trying

to vibrate through a wall. Yeah, it's not the

same. I don't know. Nothing annoys me more when

you see like the crappy like tuner car with the

fart can muffler and they just they pull up at

the light and it's just like boom, boom, boom.

And it's like you could hear like the the shitty

pieces of their car rattling with each stroke

of the drum. And it's like, how is that even

like good to listen to? Like it's not even pleasing

at all. Like, your base in treble is supposed

to be, you're supposed to work in, in, in synchrony,

I guess. All right, Gary, what else you got?

Well, also something that's kind of annoying,

for me at least, Factor Fiction Christmas advertising

comes way too early anymore. I'll be the first

one to say that's a fact. I was in a, I was in

a big lot. in August and they had the Christmas

trees out already. That hurts me. I'm like, really?

I just get back from the beach. It's pathetic.

Yeah, I have fact. Oh very much fact. It's just

to stop it already We just leave this stuff out

all year at this point like yeah, not to mention

like Black Friday starts way too early It's like

Black Friday shopping starting on Monday. Yeah

Amazon has countdown to Black Friday going on

Started like I think last week or something.

And if you have a company and you're open on

Thanksgiving Yeah, I feel bad for these poor

people that have to work on Thanksgiving instead

of being with their families. The reason they

have to work is because people are going out

and buying this stuff. So you're propagating

that way of thinking. I totally disagree with

that. We're going to save tons of money on stuff

we don't need anyways, but still, we'll save

money on our fourth TV that's going to be for

the dog's room. The sad part is that's probably

true for the very nice Alright, so my turn I

will set this over to you Greg Settlers of Gitan

is a more enjoyable game to play than cards against

humanity Fiction I think cars against humanity

is a lot more fun because you're just joking

around You're just like glad you're even glad

to see other people win because you're still

getting amusement out of their answers But Katan

gets really freaking cutthroat I Play over my

brother's house and he has his in laws. I guess

you could say at this point over and his his

uh soon to be wife um i don't know when they're

getting married but i'm saying it soon and oh

my god the battles that break out people get

angry and like quit or i don't feel like playing

anymore i know i've done it a couple times it

can get stressful depending on on your mindset

going in but card uh cards against humanity is

just always good fun so it's a little bit more

casual I think over the holidays we should all

get together and have a big hero clicks battle,

too Yeah, I have a few characters now. Nice.

Nice. I will not be against that All right, Chuck.

This one's towards you but Greg you might chime

in. I'm not sure you feel free but Fact or fiction

the Geico cold cuts commercial will never not

be funny So you going with fact on that one?

Yeah, I'm going with fact that that makes me

laugh every time I don't think that could ever

get old and he slams the ticket down like he's

spiking the football Greg do you agree? It's

it's seriously not one of my most favorite commercials

This is why Chuck is going to different podcasts

The first couple of times it was funny for me,

but it just kind of passed it I can see if they

start playing the hell out of it like some of

these other commercials. I've seen it like at

least 25 times at this point. I only see it like

maybe twice every Sunday when I'm watching football.

So I've seen it way more times than that. I've

definitely seen it in the 20s. Yeah, I usually

only see it during football and I just like parallel

my wife's like you always laugh at that commercial

I'm like, I can't help it. I just I don't know

why so something about his enthusiasm that I'm

just like It's way over the top. Yeah It feels

real cuz like it and he does his little famous

dance from back in his day. Yeah One that does

annoy the crap out of me is the stupid little

robot guy for Old Spice That is just so creepy,

it's just so stupid. I thought that would be

me in robot form. And not getting the ladies.

Alright, Chuck, we'll make this the last set

round, so why don't you start us off? I shall.

Let's see, I'll go with Greg first this time.

I give him first crack at this one. Challenge

accepted. I know you enjoyed the movie a little

bit, so let's see where you go with this. Fact

or fiction? You are looking forward to checking

out the Guardians of the Galaxy animated series

in 2015. In fact, I'm not like over like, oh

my God, I can't wait. I can't wait. And I haven't

heard too too much about it, but I'd be totally

interested in checking that out. I do. I am like

a five year old. I do enjoy my cartoons. So I

will definitely be checking that out if I remember

that it's on. Cool. I think it looks interesting.

I haven't been a biggest fan of some of the recent

stuff that Marvel's been doing with animated,

like the Avengers Assemble cartoon. The CGI things?

Well, that one and just the one that replaces

Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Oh, OK, yeah. Yeah,

Avengers Assemble is not that great. Just the

animation style just seems really fake to me.

I don't know. It's something about it. It feels

really generic, so. Though the Guardians of the

Galaxy, the images we've seen look a little bit

interesting, so I'm looking forward to it. I'm

looking forward to it as well. I heard they started

production on it and everything. I'm not sure

exactly when it's coming out next year, but I

know I don't have the stupid TV channel that

it's on. What is it, Disney XD or something?

Yeah, whatever the hell that is. Yeah, I think

I have it. You can come over my house, Chuck,

whenever you want. Okay, cool. Whatever he remembers,

it's on. Well, if Chuck remembers it's on, he

can come in and be like, Greg, it's on. I'm like,

oh, okay. Every week at a certain time, we'll

have Guardians of the Galaxy Day. It's fine with

me. I'll wear my little Groot costume, too. All

right, my last question. Fact or fiction? Walking

Dead creator Robert Kirkman has stated there

will be a spinoff show of The Walking Dead. So

fact or fiction, a spinoff show of Walking Dead

is a good idea based on all the love that it

gets now. I'll say fiction because I just I feel

like it's going to be tough to make it work.

I just spinoff shows are hard and when you don't

have a comic to rely on to build in your characters.

It could be good, but I feel like it's just a

money grab. I don't know. I don't feel like it's

gonna work well just because it just seems like

they're gonna be trying to milk this cow a little

bit too much and then stretch themselves thin

and then end up with something that's not very

good. Like powdered cow milk. Yes. It's gotta

really hurt for the cow. Greg, what do you think?

Yeah, I think it's trying to grab the money from

it But I feel like people will get inundated

with it and get kind of they kind of kill the

franchise a little bit Yeah, see I would I'm

I would say fact I think it is a good idea that

at the right time I think if they wait too long

to do it, then it's gonna be a bad idea but yeah,

like if they if they get it out like very soon

like as soon as possible it's a good idea but

like three years down the road it's it might

be way too late i don't know yeah true i i don't

know i just i feel like just make walking dead

better not that i think it's a bad show just

i worry worry was maybe a strong word i'm just

hesitant to think that it's gonna do well because

i felt like it took walking dead a while to get

its legs so It may be good It could be cool just

to see what the other parts of the the world

look like and what would you know? How give it

open up the scale of walking that so that might

be interesting. So yeah potential I'll probably

watch it for sure. I just I'm just a little bit

hesitant and it's like it's supposed to be Like

taking place in a different area But at the same

time that everything With this show with Rick

and everyone's going on right now like at the

same time just different area and I heard a rumor

This could be a bold -faced lie, but I heard

a rumor that they're thinking about, Pennsylvania

As the setting well probably because they wouldn't

have to do much set decoration to make it look

like the apocalypse, right? We have a lot of

abandoned structures and random stuff There's

there's there's these old Tunnels that from the

old Lake PA turnpike That are abandoned and they've

actually been used in a couple of movies. So

they can just reuse those You go to the spot

that I've been already The tunnel that I was

in You wouldn't even have to just bring in any

people to paint graffiti on the wall Creepy as

hell at dark. Oh, that's funny. Alrighty Greg

on to you for your last two factor fictions oh

shit which ones do i want to use here i'll go

with a easy couple here maybe i'll make them

both food related because i do have like half

the ones i have left are dealing with food but

uh fact or fiction chuck is a burger connoisseur

i'll go with fact because he always used to if

we go out tends to go to burger places and uh

he has a good opinion when it comes to burgers

so if chuck says a burger is good i'm pretty

sure i'm gonna like it I would definitely say

fact. I consider myself a burger connoisseur.

You have a list of your favorite burger places.

I do. And I will say, I will say the best one

that I can remember is from Chicken Ruth's Deli

in Annapolis, Maryland. Nice. Nice. You're welcome.

It also has awesome milkshakes down there too.

They do. humongous freaking giant milkshakes.

That's right. Yeah, the show is featured on Man

Versus Food, where he did the challenge with

the milkshake and was like the one pound Reuben

sandwich or something like that. Yeah. Yeah.

But you can also get a burger too with the challenge,

I believe. Yeah, the burger was outstanding.

I loved it there. There's a lot of other good

ones. I just enjoy tasting them and having different

ones. I had a really good one down in down on

the boardwalk in Wildwood this summer at this

like 50s style diner. They called it the 57 Chevy,

the burger. It had jalapenos on it and everything.

I think it was delicious. Chuck, was it a Johnny

Rockets? No, it was actually called Doo -up Diner.

Oh, cool. It's one of my favorite places down

there on the boardwalk. down by the sea. Don't

get me started on burgers. I could just go with

the burger cast. The way to my heart is burgers

and asteroids. Chuck's Chuck's going to leave

this podcast and start the burger asteroid podcast.

Yeah. I'm going to join the Cosmos Cup podcast

with Neil deGrasse Tyson. Tyson, you make chicken,

too, right? Do you make a chicken burger? But

for my next one, I'll be going with, since we're

getting close to Thanksgiving. Yes, Thanksgiving,

not Christmas. Factor fiction, apple pie beats

pumpkin pie. Fiction, that's no fiction. This

is going to be un -American, but I'm not a big

fan of apple pie. So I really just eat pumpkin.

So I'm going to fiction. Give me some pumpkin

pie. What do you dislike about apple pie? The

texture of it. I'm just not. The goopy stuff?

Yeah. Dude, you need to have my mom's apple pie.

That sounds kind of wrong, but... Bepler's mom!

But in all seriousness, the pie is delicious.

Take that as pervertically as you want. Yeah,

good apple pie is very good. I'm gonna say fiction

though too. I love pumpkin pie. Do you prefer

apple pie, Greg? Oh yeah, this family is a big

apple family. We love the apple pie especially.

We have a recipe from one grandmother for the

crust and the other grandmother for the filling

and it is the perfect combination of the families

coming together to make this perfect food item.

We seriously devour apple pie when it comes into

season and my mom can't seriously make them fast

enough. I have the last two fact or fiction for

the night and Chuck I will start with you for

this one and Greg feel free to chime in if you

would like. I have been so far. Fact or fiction?

Not only will the Seahawks not repeat as Super

Bowl champions, they won't even win a playoff

game. Fact. Do you think they'll get into the

playoffs? No, I think they're gonna miss the

playoffs. Interesting, interesting. What about

you, Gray? I'm gonna go opposite of Chuck. I'm

gonna go fiction. I think they're still a really

great team. People are... They're a little bit...

They're not as surprising to people this year.

So they're losing a couple games, but I still

think they're a really good team. I think they're

going to make it to the playoffs and at least

win one game. Interesting. Yeah, I think they'll

make at least win one game, but I, well, I think

they'll win the division. Well, no, the Cardinals

are in the division, right? Yeah, I think I like

the Cardinals and even the Niners above them

in that division so far. Yeah, they might get

in this wild card, but I don't know. I could

see them losing. I know they just crushed the

Giants recently, but it was okay though, because

David Beckham made, not David Beckham, that's

a soccer player. O'Donnell. Odell Beckham Jr.

Thank you for bringing that up again. At least

I beat your wife this week. Damn it! No, but

Odell Beckham Jr. made... Richard Sherman look

like, you know, look awfully just He burned him,

which was great. I'm like, ah, yeah Greatest

in the world not when you're going up against

a rookie. So that's gotta it's gotta hurt a little

bit I don't know. Maybe it's uh My emotions talking

but I I would like to see them not make it but

I I like I mean, I like Arizona and Jane Fran

a lot in that division like same friends a bit

of a disappointment as well, but You know get

I think either the Dallas or the Eagles will

be the other wild card Every year is weird anymore

Yeah, like the NFC specifically has been really

kind of odd There's not like one dominant team

and they kind of the AFC is like a logjam. Yeah,

I think they said there's only like three There's

only like three or four teams that are kind of

out of the picture The rest of them are all right

there for a playoff spot and they're all the

Raiders All right, so this will be the last fact

or fiction of the night and it's one I think

I'll either one you can answer and just recently

today a new trailer of this movie was released

and that's the Avengers 2 or at least an extended

trailer but fact or fiction Avengers 2 will be

better than the first Avengers movie anyone can

go Still thinking It's you know, I'm gonna say

fact I think the plot line is going to be better,

the writing and everything. I think it's going

to come out better because Ultron is the one

villain I think that could sort of match Loki

as far as like an interesting villain. Because

he was created accidentally by Stark and the

Avengers. And I think that there's going to be

a lot of play on that and people are going to

be at odds. You know Ultron is just a fascinating

character as it is As much as I like the first

Avengers for the sense of wonder and the wow

factor It's always gonna have a soft spot for

that. I think plot wise Avengers 2 will be will

be better I agree with Chuck but then to add

on to that I think with all of the people that

got into the Avengers from the first one are

gonna be going to this one and it's It's a hardcore

fan base and then plus with all these new people

that got in the bandwagon on the first one Um,

I think there's gonna be a very big, uh outburst

for the second one If any of what I said made

sense Yeah, I don't know. I'm i'm still i'm gonna

go with fraction because i'm not sure I can't

even answer my own that fraction. Yeah my fraction

I think I want to go with fiction. I don't I

don't I don't know maybe again me being pessimistic

so far i've liked I have liked what I saw I Really

like James Spader so far as Ultron. So I think

there's some potential there, but I don't know

I just I'm setting the bar a little bit low so

and I'm a little bit worried about Quicksilver

and Scarlet Scarlet witch because I don't know

how well They're gonna mesh and I'm not the biggest

fan of Ayla, you know Aaron Taylor Johnson after

his role in Godzilla earlier this year, so I

don't know. I think he has a lot to live up to

when it comes to that role considering how well

it was handled in X -Men Days of Future Past,

so I don't know. I think it's gonna be good.

I don't know if it's gonna be great as the first

one just because the first one just has the fact

that it was just an experience seeing that actually

happen. So something about, you know, it's nothing

like your first time. Yeah, that's that's kind

of along the lines what I was thinking it but

I know people the biggest criticism was like

oh the plot was weak. It was just like a You

know sort of basic which yeah, it was but it's

just so awesome seeing you like the team up It's

just like it just overcomes that definitely definitely

so interested to hear what other people have

to say But before we go we like to end each episode

with a letter and we're gonna continue With the

unknown saga this week. It's coming back Due

to popular demand, of course. Of zero people.

But no, we will continue with the Unknown Saga

with episode 12, Fight Night. I have searched

the entire city over twice, and still no signs

of Don. There's only one place that I have not

searched yet, and that is where Don went missing

to begin with. The place where the kids play

and where the bullhorns hang over the doorway.

It's the one place that Don told me to stay away

from. Don isn't here, so maybe that rule can

be broken. Ah, hell, when did I start caring

about rules in the first place? I wrap the new

garb that I stole around myself and I walk into

the swarm of laughing children. The same goon

that told me off before approaches. Hey you,

get to walking. I have some business to discuss

with your boss. Hey, wait a minute. I know you.

You're that weird dressed fucker from before.

That was you talking to those kids. I told you

to fuck off before. What? Do I gotta beat it

into your fucking head? Yeah, I guess my face

is pretty funny looking, but not as funny as

yours will be when I get done with ya. Why you

motherfucker! A punch mailed by snails would

have been delivered faster. I casually sidestepped

the punch and jammed my fist into the grunt's

nose, feeling bone and tissue give way to the

force. The grunt backs away. grabbing his nose

which is spreading out blood. The grunt pulls

the sword that he's carrying away from the sheath

at his hip. This is the point in which all of

the parents of the children playing came and

frantically collected their children. Which also

leads to more goons appearing outside the door.

Three more to be exact. Goon number one swings

his sword with the same speed in which he delivered

the punch. This too was easily avoided. and his

wrist was easily caught. With a quick knee the

arms are broken. And the sword is dropped. The

other goons circle as I take hold of the sword

that has been abandoned by its owners. So who's

first? It was a terrible question as they all

attacked at once. These men were much faster

than their fallen brother. They all had attacked

at the same time at the same speed and their

swords struck each other's simultaneously above

my head. I tackle one as the other two swords

follow through nearly striking and slicing my

back. I headbutt the man I tackle that he goes

unconscious. I collect his sword as well and

get up to see a blur come at me. I instinctually

parry the attack sending it off to my right.

Then I swing to the left, blocking the point

of a sword that was trying to implant itself

into my lung. Another swing nearly takes off

my head, but I duck out of its way. An attack

at my legs is easily leapt over. Parry and thrust

and thrust and parry. I was starting to wear

down. How could I keep up at this pace? These

last two were focused and skilled. I was having

trouble keeping my swords held high. Timing was

on my side though. A shout from inside the door

with the bullhorns stopped my attackers. Let

him through! I made my way through the attackers

and under the horns. Anyways, hope you enjoyed

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I've heard a lot of good things about your mom's

apple pie. Bastard! I don't know why I can't

ever, I don't know, maybe I haven't tried apple

pie since I was a young kid, a young little lad,

so maybe if I tried it now I would enjoy it more,

but I always go to pumpkin. I'm a pumpkin guy,

I can't help it. See, my family, pumpkin is like

the grossest thing ever. We always go apple pie.

So I think everybody else are like, oh yeah,

apple pie is awesome. Yeah, I have the pumpkin

pie that my grandmother makes. That's really

good. We need a face -up. Greg's mom's apple

pie versus Chuck's pumpkin pie. I will be the

taste tester and I will win. I will say some

warm apple pie is great with just pure vanilla

ice cream. That's really good. See, I have to

load up the pumpkin pie with tons of whipped

cream. It's a good time as well. I love those

foods that are just basically gateways to eating

other foods. I can't just eat Cool Whip from

the jar, so I'll just put it on this pumpkin

pie to make it seem like I'm not.