Homework Assignments: Saga, Irredeemable, The Day the Earth Stood Still, and The Ultimates

Hey, this is Steve Blum, and you are listening

to the Geekcast Radio Network. You are now on

the inside of what I like to call the circle

of trust. We are all connected in a great circle

of life. You know something, Bert? I think you

and I are going in circles. It feels like we're

going in circles. The circuit is now complete.

When I left you, I was but the learner. Now I

am the master. Because it's a circle. Yeah, we

heard about the circle. Yeah, that's what a million

would change. Hi, this is Chuck. This is Greg,

the drunk one. And this is Dan. I didn't know

we were doing that already. It's gonna be a great

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that apparently is just Going over the place

already tonight today Greg is plastered. I have

no idea I think he's just trying to use it as

an excuse because today our assignments are due.

A few months ago we did a special homework assignment

where we gave each other different things to

do, either watch, read, listen to, all that great

stuff. This week we're doing that same thing

again. We've each given each other either a graphic

novel to read, a movie to watch, a TV show to

watch, and what we're going to be doing in our

second segment is going over what we thought

of each thing we were given. So... Tempers may

flare if we didn't make each other's assignments,

so it might get interesting Hopefully our homework

will will go well, and we all did it and we'll

pass it up to the front of a class at the end

of Today, but before we get to our homework.

How's the week been going for you guys well?

I've been trying to work out more and diet, but

I'm not really successful at the whole dieting

aspect because Saturday was essentially carbs

and sugars for me the whole day. Woke up around

my usual waking up time, which is about 1230.

That's on the weekends. And had waffles. So the

first couple I usually have with nothing on them

because they're homemade and delicious. But then

the last couple I douse in butter and maple syrup.

So a whole bunch of carbs, whole bunch of sugars.

Then I go out with my mom and we want to try

out those Ghost Buster doughnuts from Krispy

Kreme. They don't have those? Yes, they had Ghost

Buster doughnuts. With that old high C from back

in the 90s echo echo plaster whatever it was

called now. So that wasn't that wasn't it at

all Plasm ectoplasm. Yeah. Yeah, it wasn't that

it was like they had the the little logo on the

front with a little bit of green splatter and

there was apparently a marshmallow type of filling

and then there was a marshmallow man one that

said the marshmallow man. Yeah, so Totally healthy.

They didn't have those because it was the day

after Halloween. So that promotion ended. So

they had all their holiday stuff up already,

huh? Like all the snowflakes and stuff. No, they

didn't get there quite yet, thankfully. Everybody

else is doing that, but not Krispy Kreme, I think,

thankfully. But so I had a couple of donuts from

there. I had a. An apple pie filling one and

an original. They had an apple pie. All right.

It's an entire apple pie. They make apple pies

now. Yeah. But then after that, we went to this

local winery called Melites. So I had some wine

there. So that also counts in the sugar scenario.

And then for dinner, it was pizza. Nice. So everything

was carbs or sugar. My stomach felt like it was

cramping up for a majority of the Saturday. Putting

donuts on the pizza was not a good idea, but

it was delicious. They had a really good one

that was this vanilla cream filling kind of situation.

It wasn't a Boston cream. It was more like a

vanilla icing type filling, and it was freaking

delicious. I had two the one day, and that's

pretty bad for Krispy Kreme. I should have had

a heart attack or nine million cavities. But

something on an unrelated note, I just found

before we got on - Something on an unrelated

can't stop because it has to do with a certain

female. Apparently, the band Paramore. Thank

you. the band paramour who has the lead singer

hailey williams who is gorgeous google google

that shit apparently they're having a garage

sale quote unquote on ebay and so it's a lot

of clothes and i don't know if i like what this

is going I don't like where this is going either,

but I feel like I really want to bid on a pair

of pantyhose that are on there that are Extremely

expensive. I don't know what's creepier that

they're selling them or that people are buying

them It's it's a pair of actually it's women's

red drip tights That was worn by the lead singer

Haley Williams. They are currently up to $47

.93. Oh, okay. Well, you said $47 ,000, I'm going

to say $47 ,000. No, there's some other stuff

that's like into the hundreds. Like there's this

suspender skirt and top outfit that was worn

by her that's about $204. Wow, that'll really

accent your lifelong or your life -sized Oliver

so you can just have the clothes on Yeah, no

that would mostly spend time on my pillow. So

I could smell that as I go to sleep at night

And the shivers people feel are probably really

How's your week been going Pretty good. I know

we're kind of into November now, but when, you

know, the last since the last time we spoke,

I went to a Halloween party. Nice. It was actually

on Halloween night. And we went to a place called

the Old Brook Inn. And my girlfriend and myself,

we dressed up and everything and met some of

our coworkers there and stuff. It was a nice

time. We had we had a good night. But the funniest

part came when we were leaving. And I should

probably explain my costume a little bit. I just

kind of went as like a Hawaiian tourist. I had

like this black Hawaiian shirt on, like the classic,

you know, tourist Hawaiian shirt had like a straw

hat and like a lei, you know, around my neck

with all the different colored flowers and stuff.

So I totally looked the part and I had my shorts

on and everything. And but we're leaving. and

we decide to use the bathrooms before we leave.

So I go into the bathroom and you know how you

tell when someone's just plastered by looking

at their face and how far it's sagging down?

You cannot see mine. Well, I walk in and this

guy just looks like terrible. You can just look

at his face and be like, that guy's bombed. So

he like sees me, right? And he's like, Yo, man,

he's like. Where can I get one of those fucking

ulas? I'm like, I'm like, what the frig is a

ula? He's like, yeah, man. Are those those many

people from Willy Wonka, the chocolate factory?

Yeah, man, one of those ulas around your neck.

Like, you mean lay? Like, oh, I don't know. Like,

I'm not sure where you get them. My head, I'm

like, maybe the Ula store. I don't know. But

I was just like, oh, I don't know. And I kind

of kept walking. And he's like, oh, I'll buy

it off you, man. What the hell is happening right

now? Luckily, like I just kept walking back to

like where the urinals were. And luckily, like

his friend took him out the door or whatever.

But I'm just like, wow, never like. Ever expected

someone to confuse a lei with like a ula Whatever

that may be he really wanted an ula. I mean who

doesn't want an ula? Wow, so my week has been

uneventful to say the least not much has happened

But uh, just trying to get used to this whole

daylight savings time. That's just you know I

completely forgot it happened and when I woke

up, I'm like Yeah Wait, we pushed our clocks

back. I completely forgot about that. So It's

like a free hour like nice, but yeah, but I get

to drive home in freaking night time now I know

that does suck. It is highly depressing. It is

really bad when it's like, oh, it's three o 'clock

in the afternoon But besides all that with our

homework assignment all I did get inspired to

actually get into some comics recently I don't

know about you guys you ever get in something

where you just you get into a different mood

Whatever it may be like I really into watching

movies at this certain time Actually, oh, yeah,

that's always for you. That's always not always

honestly There there are there are times when

that doesn't happen not all the time but uh this

past weekend it happens for whatever reason like

I was like really gonna get in the comics in

kind of serious similar to when I got in the

hero clicks where it's like a fever pitch where

it's like really quick and really fast and I

have to absorb it all because Greg gave me an

assignment for a comic book and it kind of just

let me down this path where Also a dangerous

path because are we gonna have to give you a

pop of vinyl talk? Not a pop vinyl talk, but

I know it's controversial I know we don't tend

to do this, but I did enter the questionable

world of digital comics I know I feel dirty about

it. I'm not gonna lie. It just it just feels

wrong, but evil I know I know it just kill trees

kill them all But yeah, I ended up downloading

a comicsology app going through that. Marvel

has this Netflix for digital comics that they

have. It's kind of like a similar service. Not

everything's available, but I ended up using

it and kind of getting into different comics,

even stuff from Image. And the one comic I really

got into was this comic called Southern Bastards.

Heard that was good. Yeah, I actually have a

review of it on geekcastreedo .com and the basic

premise of it is that it is this guy who goes

back to his hometown that he grew up in to settle

down his house. The house that his father left

him was given to his Uncle who passed away so

he has to kind of go back and like pack everything

up and get it ready to be sold and whatnot But

when he goes back into this town he notices that

kind of not what he remembers it being I should

preface it by saying like his dad was a Sheriff

in like he was known for cleaning up the town.

Have you guys ever saw that movie walking tall

for a heard of it? Oh, yeah, I love that movie.

Yeah, it's there's a lot of similarities with

this like it's like kind of Almost like an inspired

sequel but not quite where it's like his son

goes back to the town who's older the guy is

like a Mixture of like Clint Eastwood and John

Wayne. He's kind of big and bulky, you know his

late 60s Vietnam War veteran He never wanted

to have any relationship with like do what his

father did He didn't want to be in the police

He wanted to kind of get out of that town, but

he's kind of find himself back there and he notices

that it's gotten worse again, like his dad cleaned

it up, but Since his dad has passed away. It's

kind of became this place area a lot of crime

a lot of drugs and it's all run by who else the

coach of the local football team Which sounds

kind of ridiculous and a little bit is but it

actually ends up working What's really cool about

this story though is that it sets itself up like

you like I said like with walking tall This idea

of this guy kind of fighting against destiny

Trying to clean things up, but it's a lot more

than that. You learn more about him as a character

and Just finished the fourth issue not too long

ago and you ever have one of those moments when

you're reading a comic you go through a page

Something happens and you're like wait No that

that just happened. No that couldn't go back

and forth like four or five times like no Wait,

no that couldn't have happened one of the more

shocking and more effective moments and comics

that I've I have read in years honestly was with

the fourth issue of Southern bastards like I

thought I knew where this was going. I thought

I I figured okay. Here we go This is the story

we're having but it was like this three issue

long setup for this one moment. That was Somebody

shitting in the bucket and Dan was like somebody

actually listens to our podcast I was completely

surprised then they did sequel reboot and destroy

and then Crazy they did a letter at the end.

I'm like, what are they and so now we're suing

them And then there's like an epilogue at the

end that you completely changes everything that

you thought so I haven't read the fifth issue

yet But it was really good up to that point.

I was really loving it. I love the art style.

It's really unique. It's who are like, honestly,

everything I pick up from Image, I mean, I'm

not picking everything up, but everything I do

tends to be really good. I have this, I've read

Deadly Class, East of West, a lot of great comics

coming out of Image, and I would highly, highly

recommend Southern Bastards. I don't think I'm

really justifying it enough, but I would advise,

I think I did a better job in my written review

at keycastradio .com, where I kind of go in more

detail and - Check it out, fuckers, check it

out. Yeah, that'll get him in the door. Feel

like you should have brought this in on the episode

by saying today. We're gonna talk about southern

bastards We should then we would have lost all

of our southern listeners on the podcast Yeah,

I would recommend it so I think the fifth issue

is out I just came out recently I have not picked

it up. I think maybe one day later one episode

later We can debate the merits of digital comics

because I was very much against them But I gotta

say after kind of the last few weeks there are

some merits to them More so on a convenient aspect,

though. It does not feel the same buying a digital

comic as it does buying a physical form. Like,

I can't really put this in a long box. It's not

unsatisfying. No, it isn't. Not as satisfying.

You don't get that, that great, like that really

great feeling when you put a comic in its bag

and board it and put it just, you know what I

mean? It's like, ah, you own it. It's just, yeah,

you don't get that. You're putting it in a file

folder. It's not nearly as effective. Once once

you're done reading it. It's like a little trophy

that yes, I've completed this one thing Yeah,

because I really don't complete anything else.

Yeah, you can't hold it up and say this is mine

exactly exactly And you can't go get it signed

like if I try to get a digital comic sign wouldn't

work that well sign this Sign my iphone iPad

i'm sure like give it like 20 years and that'll

be a thing. So already but Greg, I believe you

also had the opportunity to read a comic, is

that not correct? I did read a comic. It's actually

a part of a larger graphic novel. But it's well,

let me explain the whole thing first, because

it's this huge graphic novel called Bad Doings

and Big Ideas. And it's by Bill Willingham, who's

the guy who created Fables, the graphic novel

series that I love. And this is like a whole

bunch of other stuff that he has written over

his career. Some of them are more known, some

of them less known. I haven't really heard of

any of them, but one of the first series that

he wrote in here was Proposition Player and it

was one of his first to start off into writing

comics and I actually I thought it was really

good It started off kind of slow and I was like

what the hell is this and I wasn't really interested

in at the beginning But it kind of had an interesting

plot as we got really into it. It has to deal

with this poker player who, if you don't know,

casinos have people that sit at the table for

them and play the game. They're an employee of

the casino playing game, filling spots in to

make it look more crowded. make it feel like

it's a crowded place that everybody wants to

get in on and this guy is interested in building

up his money so he could become a professional

but in the meantime he's hanging out with a whole

bunch of people that work there and there's this

whole situation where there's this bet that goes

down I forget exactly how it goes along but essentially

he wants the people to sell their soul to him

and he'll buy them a beer and he bets that people

wouldn't do it or so there's something there

I forget exactly what but essentially these people

sign over their souls for a beer and so like

everything's kind of normal but then all of a

sudden this big guy shows up at his door and

wants to buy those pieces of paper that he had

people sign for their souls and it's actually

an angel and then later on here comes an agent

of the devil that comes in and they're trying

to compete for these souls but apparently like

They're using these souls as a stock market and

you can actually become a deity if you possess

souls and you kind of see this guy progress up

through and it's just kind of an interesting

concept to me an Interesting idea of nothing.

I've really seen before in a comic The art is

actually by Bill Willingham, which I really don't

care for the art that he has but I story became

so interesting to me after this angel came in

and he's a big weird looking dude that looks

like he'd be shouting at you every two seconds

but it's quite an interesting take and I wish

it went a little bit further than it did but

um Bill writes these little four words at the

beginning of the book and he said that it wasn't

selling too well so they had to skip out of it

early. So it's kind of a quick conclusion to

the book and you kind of feel that. I wish it

went a little bit further because I'd like to

see more how it would progress to this end point.

But it was a really interesting story, a really

interesting take like Bill Willingham kind of

does on a lot of his stuff. So I'm really interested

in reading the rest of the books in this huge

huge graphic novel that I got for really cheap

at the Baltimore Comic Con. So you said Bill

Willingham that he's he's also behind fables

as well? Yes, he's the gentleman behind fables.

So is this does that comic exist in the same

universe or is it just completely separate? It's

in a different universe and I think thing even

says something in the foreword that he kind of

sees this Universe kind of existing in the fables

universe. So that's quite interesting that you

actually bring that up there See I have the insight

now. Yeah, that works. That's really interesting

I guess my one question too would be does Martha

Stewart get arrested for insider soul training?

No, she does not get arrested for insider soul

training because if you think there anyone who

would know a lot about selling souls She my cousin

thinks she's a devil being a demon I could see

that like there's something like overly nice

about her that you're just like something's off.

She's either a serial killer or something. Well,

you hear people that used to work for and they're

like, she's kind of a bitch. She wants things

a certain way. And by the way, I never expected

this podcast to be talking about Martha Stewart.

Just throwing that out there. I expect pooping

in a bucket, but Martha Stewart is way off. Hey,

you got to get there somehow, right? Yeah. All

right. You want to put up to anything else? No,

just that. I think I've been reading other stuff,

but it's been so far away at this point that

I'm having trouble remembering it. So I'm not

going to talk about any of that. Oh, I completely

understand that. I was going to talk more about.

Also read the rocket raccoon series by that's

really good I've only read the first and second

issue, but that's that's been a lot of fun Scottie

Young is one of my favorite artists right now

I just yeah, especially putting him in like a

space story like he comes up with some really

crazy designs and yeah, it's very graffiti feel

very Just kind of messy but Awesome at the same

time. Yeah, I almost feels like each people of

craft meets the people who'd made first the cat

It's just it's insane very abstract. I mean one

time he is like a spaceship. That's basically

a gigantic fish and One that's like a Buick and

it's just it's insane. Like it's very interesting.

So Have you seen that? I actually have a piece

by Scott Young. Did you ever see that that I

ever show you that? Yeah, I don't believe I have

no Yeah, it's a cyclops. It's a mixed media kind

of piece. It's a ink and watercolor and it's

a 90s Cyclops. Interesting. He's also been on,

I've heard him on this one podcast I listened

to called Film Junk, which is a movie podcast.

And he was on there talking about Guardians of

the Galaxy, oddly enough. So I would, I would

recommend Rocket Raccoon too. It's just like

a solo story, nothing like truly huge or scope,

you know, nothing like a big event or anything

like that. More of a murder mystery per se, uh,

but it's a lot of great humor So I would recommend

that mostly because it's just great looking at

his art. So Yeah, it's unlike anything else.

I think really in marvel right now but uh, but

yeah, so Think that's about it. Oh, I recommend

that one too as well. Yeah, I should mention

I was able to beat Greg in fantasy football this

past week I know I know it did come down to the

wire. The sad part is being a Giants fan They're

playing on Monday night against the Colts getting

killed The only thing I had riding on it was

I needed Larry to now that score Ruben Randall

And it barely got a fucking touchdown that destroyed

me. I know. But setting up to this, we only had

one player piece left. You had done now. I had

Randall and I was point three, four points ahead

of you. Yeah. And and I was like, stretched it

out to like a one point one lead or something.

And then he gets the frickin touchdown. Then

you win by three points. Yeah, I would have lost

by three, but I won by three weeks with that

touchdown. I'm like, nice. I was doing so damn

well. Like you're in fourth place. I was 11th

at the time and it would have been a complete

coup if I won that. It would be like, you know,

a bigger upset than like the 1980 Olympic USA

team beating Russia. I'm just trying not to get

the saco this year. I don't even think I'm going

to make it to the playoffs. My team has been.

Horrible this year. I've been trying to Work

the waiver wire trade with people. I'm not sure

if it's exactly been working or not now recently

moved up to 10th So and I have your your wife

next week. So hopefully I don't say it like that.

It just sounds wrong But congrats on your win

down. Yeah, it was a hard -fought win This is

why I'm drinking tonight also. Hey, man, the

Giants look awful. So I need something Well,

I've got the Vikings True and yeah, we're both

in the and then horrible Teddy Bridgewater Yeah,

and then chucks over there with his like 32 nothing

win with the Dolphins freaking 37 37 I was looking

at that game. I'm like wait. What why is that

score wrong? Like oh, no, they actually dolphins

deserve a playoff run here. I think so they can

dethrone those Patriots, so I Pray for that every

night, and I am not religious at all Brady will

do that to you though. All right, though We're

gonna take a quick break and when we come back

like I mentioned this topic show We're gonna

get into our homework and hopefully we all did

it. You might hear some Saudi cramming before

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and welcome back. Like I mentioned today class

is in session. We have given each other homework

assignments to work to work on and now it's our

opportunity to give our responses to those assignments.

So we're going to start off just by kind of going

over what each of us had to do. For example,

Greg, he gave me the the comic saga that we've

been talking about a great deal. I've wanted

to get into it for a while now and finally Greg

gave it to me. I should preface by saying that

Greg gave me a lot of great movie choices. But

of course, with my lack of life and watching

too many movies, I saw most of them. So then

we settled on Saga, but I there was no way I

could win people no way. Yeah, I'm like, I feel

really bad about this. I'm like, yeah, it's a

good choice. I kind of saw it. I apologize. But

and then Chuck did give me a movie I have not

seen and I'll get to that in a little bit. He

gave me the movie Undisputed 2, which was I believe

that was part of the one top five for the underappreciated

or under. known films crack shock am i am i right

in that assessment yeah that made my list i think

it was uh number one on my list nice so i will

i hope there's a lot of praise from chuck so

hopefully i do him i do him right with my response

to that film greg what were the assignments that

you were given Was given a graphic novel by Dan

last time I saw him which I think was around

the Baltimore comic -con of Irredeemable because

he thought it would get me a little bit closer

into kind of liking Superman. I think I think

there was a little bit of a It was there a little

bit I feel like this is a Superman Greg would

like because it's very influenced by that character

So yeah, we'll get into that in a little bit,

but I was given by Chuck An STD ghost of darkness.

That is not true. I did not give Greg an STD.

He had it already. It was a ghost of darkness

movie with Val Kilmer, who actually looks good

in the film besides Top Gun. Though you didn't

give that assignment to me, Chuck. I did watch

that movie, so I can maybe chime in on that as

well. Not too long ago. It's a three way recommendation.

So Chuck, what were your assignments? I actually

didn't have any savings because I had a homework

voucher. Oh, son of a. That's why I get. I won

the last game of Silent Ball, so I got the free

homework voucher. Oh, Silent Ball. Oh, man. The

classic teacher's method of getting the class

to shut up and be quiet. See, ours was heads

up seven up. Oh, yeah, we did that to you. Oh,

man. But no, actually. Let's see, by Greg, I

was given a choice in movies and I selected the

original 1951, The Day the Earth Stood Still.

Oh, wow. We're going old school. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

It's got Aunt B from Andy Griffith in it. Yeah,

I know. It's gonna be awesome. Craziness. And

let's see, by Dan, I was given the graphic novels

of The Ultimates by Marvel, which is the Ultimate

Universe version of The Avengers. We talked about

the DVD cartoons of those a while back. I remember

you mentioning you liking them, so I figured

I'd see what your thoughts are on the actual

graphic novel. So I know you've been hesitant

to get into the Ultimate Universe, and I thought

if there's any opportunity that would happen,

it'd be with those comics. So see how it goes.

But I think we're going to start off with the

assignments that Chuck gave out. So like we mentioned,

Ghost in the Darkness to Greg, and for myself,

he gave me the movie Undisputed 2. Then I was

a little worried going into the movie since I've

never seen the first undisputed but I think he

mentioned to me that doesn't really matter and

it really doesn't and For those that don't know

that the movie undisputed 2 is follows a character

played by Michael Jai white He is like a boxer

kickboxer former heavyweight champ currently

on hard times when we meet him. He's in Russia

doing a commercial forget exactly what it's for

it, but I believe he's not a big fan of it You

know, he's having At the same time in a Russian

underground prison fight we meet Scott Atkins

character who is like imagine if you took the

Russian in the Ken Shamrock put him into one

and like added even more badassness that is like

His character in this yeah the goatee goatee

and like the gigantic muscles and tattoos like

the guy just looks Badass know it Scott Atkins

like I was I've been a fan of him for a while

It's not maybe a household name because of his

acting skill, but he's a well -known choreographer

for stunts He's done. He's been in pretty much

every big action movie You could think of you

spend a little franchise and you will see him

in a lot of movies You may not recognize him,

but he's there and he's one of those guys who

maybe doesn't get credit He deserves because

he's a huge ass a part of making Like modern

action what it is so seeing him in like a main

role like that was great and he he really handled

it well he does make a really good villain and

I was actually uh Reading it that like it became

hard for him because he had to put on so much

muscle that he had to relearn How to do things

like back flips and things like that. Yeah, he's

never really that big before in this He's like,

you know Brock Lesnar type of big Brock Lesnar

is a douche by the way He looks like a douche

It's like someone like was making a face and

then gave up But the story is kind of one similar

that you probably seen before what but uh, I

think it falls in the same lines of the first

undisputed where Michael Jaiwise character is

wrongfully accused basically set up and arrested

They plant drugs on him by the Russian army.

I should mention he's in Russia drugs get planted

on him force put in the shell Obviously because

they want him to fight Scott Atkins character

who's kicking the crap out of everyone knowing

every chance It's kind of like Bloodsport meets

Oz in that way. And I think what's really great

about this, like the best part of Underspeed,

which I should say I did enjoy, it reminds me

of like those classic 80s action films that we

don't get nearly enough anymore. Like this could

have been made during the Stallone, Schwarzenegger

era, but it's not necessarily over the top. There

aren't really any explosions. It's just really

like... tough as nails like balls of the wall

action that um because both michael dry white

and scott atkins have a huge martial arts background

and i think that plays into this where like they're

you know they're doing their own stunts they're

like they're fighting feels real it's not too

over the top it's not like rocky four where it's

like yeah that's a great fight to watch but it's

not like it represents real life boxing i think

this is more true to life but not too true to

life like something like the fighter where boxing

is a little bit more stale so i do think the

action scenes are are really well handled I was

actually surprised though when I saw the setup.

I thought it was gonna be like, okay So it's

gonna be like a tournament type of movie where

they know you see them rise like fight each other

and whatnot But really there isn't that many

matchups per se there's the action in it, but

it becomes a story a lot more plot and I anticipated

the politics of the jail and Almost wondered

if it would have been better if it was more stereotypical

of what but not like if it followed that generic

plot line Not that the plot was bad. I just I

just wanted to see this fight happen So and it

really makes you wait for it. Yeah, so You get

some you get some glimpses here and there even

though it's maybe a little bit too much plot

going on Which is a weird thing to say but yeah,

I did like the setting I do like Michael Jai

White as a like an actor for a film like this

I think he has a physicality to him for those

that don't know if you've seen the show the arrow

You probably have seen him. He played was it

white tiger or? Okay, yeah, it's not even close

White white tiger is in marvel. Yeah, and it's

a female ring. So Yeah He's a guy he had the

he had the like wolverine like claws I I did

greatly enjoy it Like I said, and I think the

action is worth heard that it's much better than

the first one I don't know. Have you seen the

first one? There's puted chuck Yeah, it's light

years better than the first one. Is it like follow

a similar plot line? in the i guess in the vegas

sense i mean i mean the first one was uh ving

rames and wesley snipes and ving rames was the

played the part of george chambers but um and

that was kind of the same thing where like this

guy was beating everyone so they brought him

in so that they weren't losing so much money

on the bets it was someone that could like challenge

the winner but this one kind of like Improved

upon it. It's like a sequel, but it's like almost

like redoing the first one in a way. I don't

know Yeah, it's like taking that title of it

and kind of just using it as more of a media

Not media but a marketing standpoint. Yes, I

don't necessarily think you need to see the first

one But I'm I'd be curious to go back and see

the similarities between them and is there I

think there's a third one too Yeah, there is

and the third one just has Scott Adkins and he's

the main the central character That one's actually

pretty good, too, but I think the second one

was a little bit better I like him a lot his

character and uh, it's kind of a a machine but

I did like how that he wasn't necessarily Interesting

because he's not necessarily the villain per

se. It's more of the politics of the situation

Yeah, he like you think he's the villain but

then you you kind of realize that he does have

a sort of honor about him Like the honor among

thieves type of very what comes especially when

fighting he's ruthless, but you know He has necessarily

rules, but he has ethics that he does follow

when it comes to fighting so I would definitely

recommend it and usually give grace with these

and I would give give under speedy to a strong

strong b plus and so if you if you like those

like 80s action films or I don't know if that's

accurate to say the same vein as those per se

like it's not as over -the -top with like the

explosions, but Yeah, it's kind of like a it's

kind of like a bloodsport type movie kickboxer

or something like that But it's it's kind of

done a little bit better I think the flights

in Bloodsport don't have the impact that they

do. Yeah, I just. Plus, you don't have all the.

But. I do. That's the main reason I kind of gave

this to you, because the just for the fight scenes,

it's just amazing. The choreography, I will say

to the one of my favorite parts of the movie.

favorite things about the movie is the just the

general like interaction between Scott Atkins

character and Michael J. White's character like

when they meet in the cafeteria and like You

know random places like just the interaction

between them like that bravado where they're

trying to one -up each other and tougher than

one lunch money and Somebody gets a way to remind

me It kind of reminded me of like the most intense

wrestling wife rivalries where it's just like

a lot of heavy breathing and stare downs and

like it just but it's yeah, but it's not corny.

It's like it's no. No, not like not corny more.

So just like legitimately intimidating. It's

like, wow, these guys are pretty badass. But

it's obvious that it's just two egos like kind

of going at each other. Yeah. Like I said, I

would recommend that you gave it a B plus. So

very nice. Get I guess question now Greg you

also were given a movie. So what did you feel

about ghosts in the darkness unlike? the movie

that Dan got from Chuck mine was a little bit

more intellectual and more about man versus nature

and it was historical film Yeah, Chuck didn't

think I could handle that. So he's like, no,

you can go. Yes, Greg's the high pollutant one

that really needs a historical, almost documentary

type of film. But I was pretty much just like

Greg's assignments. Dan saw everything that I

recommended. Come up with something deep in my

bag. But I really thought it was really good.

It's Val Kilmer. I feel like some people think

he's hit or miss. I definitely thought this one

was a hit. He just a British guy. but he sent

out while his wife is pregnant and Val Kilmer

is super excited to experience Africa and when

he gets there there's this lion that keeps attacking

and he shoots the shit out of that lion and everybody's

like yeah Val Kilmer he killed that freaking

lion so when it keeps going on everybody's like

what the fuck man what the fuck and so this really

holds up his bridge -making thing it's not the

right lion so everybody thinks that he has to

do he's the one that brought this lion and it's

not actually a lion it's the ghost in the darkness

but it's really well acted by him and Michael

Douglas who is like first in the credits is not

in there anywhere close to the amount of time

that Val Kilmer's in there it's a great story

the only thing that was it was kind of a really

hilarious moment for kind of how serious this

movie was. I kind of picked up this one scene

as kind of a dream sequence, so I kind of figured

it out ahead of time, but his wife comes to visit

after he supposedly kills the ghost in the darkness.

And she's walking down and she's like, honey,

hi. And she's got the baby and everything. And

she keeps running towards him. Hi, hi. And he's

excited. He's like, hi, honey, hi. And he's running

towards her. And then off in the high grass,

he sees the tail of the ghost in the darkness,

quote unquote, coming through this lion. Now,

wait a minute. The ghost and the darkness is

the two lions. That's OK. One one name for each

line. One's the ghost and one's the darkness.

Did not know that. So which one was coming through

the high grass then? Was it the ghost or the

darkness? Cause it was light out. So I'm assuming

it was the ghost. I would say it's the ghost.

Yeah. Okay. We'll go with the ghost. It was coming

through the high grass and, um, and he notices

and he's like, honey, go back, go back. But she's,

she's oblivious cause she's a woman joking. So

really pissing off the women UK listeners right

now I'm getting both demographics that we probably

don't get and so she's running at him going honey

hi and she keeps yelling but it's just hilarious

when the lion does hit because it looks like

some bit take on SNL that does not look real

at all like she gets a shot of her running and

like one second frame a lion's coming through

and like just plows into her and the next second

it's out it's like maybe three frames of film

that this all happens in. So it's really comical

how she gets taken out. And so we learned that

Greg really loves to see women getting killed

by lions. I was he wakes up from the from the

dream and he's all like. And I'm there lay in

bed just laughing my ass off. My parents are

asleep, so I'm trying to muffle it. It was that

that scene was hilarious. But the other parts

of the film are really great. Michael Douglas

plays an excellent crazy man. Plays is a strong

word. But it's kind of got a little bit of a

horror film feel to it. And it's a little bit

like Jaws as well, I thought. So it's Jaws with

a lion. I know Kevin Smith is making Jaws with

a moose, but this film was a really well done

lion Jaws film, especially loved the the part

with the the monkey out as bait. It was kind

of creepy, scary in him on this kind of like

a big stand that he had constructed. And by the

way, there's also a part in the film where he

puts these he builds this giant trap. It's like

a giant kind of trailer type of thing, where

he sets up these bars and he has men on one side

and the the lion kind of roams into the other.

And it like he triggers the door to close behind

the lion. So he's kind of caged in there. And

the men are with their guns can just kind of

aim their guns in and shoot. Like, those men

did not hit that frickin lion once once they

just had to get a little bit closer aim up their

shot. But no, they're pissing their pants. I'm

like, Dude, you guys could have had this lion,

like, so easy. And like that just frustrated

me. It was a great part of the story and everything.

And like that plan should have definitely worked.

It was a little bit frustrating. So it worked

really well for the movie and the storyline.

But I thought it was a really great movie. I

definitely would give it like an A minus. I recommend

it to anybody going in with a lot of the films

that you guys like. And I'm like always on going

into the film. This is like taken the first time

we went to see taken. I was like, yeah, it doesn't

look that great. But then you guys were like,

oh, let's go see taken. I really enjoyed it afterwards.

This this falls into the same kind of category.

This is a while since I've watched it, but I

remember me looking how they use a lot of like

shots from. perspective line like you you see

that a lot shot down low and like you said it

very much in the in the Reim of that of jaws

where you can definitely see the influence there

Yeah, there was a couple of weird scenes where

it was kind of like a weird x -ray their night

vision goggle type of thing that was kind of

weird for me, but Yeah, and it's interesting

because it does like ride that what like line

of like is it mythical or is it? You know what's

going on there, but yeah, and Michael Douglas

was a you know He does have a really great character

introduction funny because when we talked about

this one I was looking for clips because I was

we're doing an episode and I didn't realize the

clip that I took was what his like Introduction

into the movie, but yeah, it's a really great

I love really good character introductions, and

that's definitely one yeah, so he makes his presence

known like immediately Your assignments are doing

both cool glad you guys like them All right,

so I guess now Chuck move on to you and maybe

go over the assignment that Greg gave you with

the data arrested still Yeah, sure. This was

obviously the original not the Keanu Reeves remake

Yeah, that I probably would have refused that

assignment no, I would refuse it as well But

I I like this movie a lot I gotta say I am kind

of a sucker for the old like You know, the old

type of scary horror type movies from like the

50s and stuff like that. I was a big fan of the

blob and stuff like that. Steve McQueen. This

had like a similar feel to it, like the the panic,

the paranoia of the general populace and stuff.

And this kind of was one that was kind of always

on the back burner for me that I kind of always

wanted to check out, but I never really got the

chance to. So I'm glad I got the opportunity

to. to take this assignment. But I guess the

biggest thing that sticks out to me is that this

is a good movie without having a ton of action

and special effects and everything. It's just

like to me, it's like good acting and good storytelling.

And that's all it needs to tell a great story.

Yeah. Like it it tells a great story. It stands

on its own two feet. And I really like that about

it. And I think, like, I also respect the fact

that, like, and I give a little bit of background

on it, but it's basically like, you know, they

show like this sort of disk coming through the

sky and they everybody on the ground start seeing

it. And it's they're kind of in Washington, D

.C., which, by the way, why is it always Washington,

D .C.? It's either that or New York City. You

know, it's always the United States of America.

That's always where they go. They never landed

like Bismarck, North Dakota or something like

that. Maybe they have and no one's noticed. This

isn't the central hub of your worlds. Let's land

by the giant penis statue. No. We're going to

go to Scranton next. It's like, oh, we've just

been carjacked. Let's say land is Scranton. They'd

be like, we don't want this planet. We're leaving.

But anyway, like they kind of they circle over

Washington, D .C. Everybody's like, Oh, my gosh,

what is that? Yeah. And then it starts to land

and they're like, Oh, my God. And it's funny,

too, because I read like as I'm acting it out.

But it's funny, like I was reading that the director,

when he did the part when it was landing in the

mall there in Washington, D .C. like he had people

like all the extras like running away from it

like scattering and this really wide -angle shot

and He did like several takes of this and like

the people could not run fast enough like it

didn't look like they were panicked and He like

he kept telling them To run faster and that just

it didn't look right. So reluctantly, he just

went with it and they ended up speeding up the

film for the actual movie. And it kind of looks

fake in that scene with like people running.

Those are some of the best things. Yeah. But

it's like he had to do it because it didn't look

convincing the other way either. Look too slow.

So I guess it looks better in the fast end. They're

gingerly strolling away from that UFO. It's like

when you see the creepy guy across the street,

you're just kind of like, you know, kind of cautiously

move over. School just let out, you guys look

at everybody sleeping school. But, you know,

this thing lands and I guess that's kind of where

some of my questions start in. And I'm not like

bashing the movie or anything. It's just this

just stuff I thought was like kind of funny if

you look at it a certain way. So like the thing

lands and nothing happened for two hours. Everyone

was waiting like, what are they? What are they

doing inside the spaceship? They're just waiting

there for two hours. It's a giant circle jerk.

Like I was just trying to picture like stuff

that they were talking about, because I don't

think anything was really happening inside because.

Probably spoiler spoiler alert right here. But

the alien is out well beforehand I'm kind of

roaming the city checking things out and getting

Acclimated with with the city and with the world

in general and with people of the planet I think

that's gonna that comes after though. The first

time he comes out though Okay, it's been a while

since I've actually seen it one of my favorite

films But it's it's actually been a while since

I've actually seen the film And the other funny

thing is like, you know how like they kind of

the military just like basically mobilizes and

just you see like all these tanks coming out

out of this like military compound. And I never

I never knew that you could drift with a tank.

It's probably like they come out of this thing

fast and they just take a 90 degree corner and

this tank just like drifts across the road. Have

you not seen Fast and Furious 7? Where they race

tanks on the moon? Fast and Furious 7 tanks a

lot. This guy must have been Vin Diesel's grandfather

or something. He tanks a lot. That's just...

Don't give them ideas. I can see that. That's

the ludicrous line waiting to happen in Fast

and Furious movies. So they land and everything

and he says... He comes in peace and it's like

the classic alien lines and everything. And there's

just one really nervous soldier that just shoots

him because he thinks he's reaching for something.

And I feel like that. Thanks for screwing up

everything for everybody else on the planet.

That's the kind of dick move I could totally

see someone doing just like it's me. I'm the

military man. Guys like reaching a scratch himself.

He's like. So I'm reaching for a gun, but he

was reaching for his Thor's hammer. But so that

we we see that the alien's name is Klaatu. And

the other thing I respect about this movie is

they didn't need to go for this big, goofy looking

alien. It just it was a human actor with some

solid acting skills based like, you know, somebody,

you know, you don't have to go and give them,

you know, antennas and six eyes and all that

crap. Or make him look like Keanu Reeves, which

is hard. Oh, yeah, that's that's even more scary.

But, you know, and he has this robot with him

called Gort, and that's kind of his protective

robot. And it's his ace. You could say it's his

tool slash weapon that he uses for everything

slash bodyguard to you could say. He gets shot

in the shoulder, so they take him to Walter Reed

Hospital or something like that. The guy even

says, and I was like, oh, wow, that still exists.

Weird thing is actually still waiting. So he

kind of gets better and like explains to the

secretary, to the president that he needs to

speak to all the world's leaders, get something

really important to say. And he's like, we can't

do that because none of us get along and nobody

wants to meet up. The world itself doesn't exist,

so it's difficult. Yeah. And he can't create

a Facebook account. So, you know, no Skype isn't

around yet. So that's kind of makes it. There's

all these different things. That movie was really

ahead. It was. But the funny part is, like, I

guess there's they show two doctors. This was

the funniest part of the movie for me. You know,

it's not a funny movie, but there's two doctors

in this other room and they're talking about

how. The one guy patched him up. He's like, you

know, I got the bullet out of there and I patched

him up and he's already healed and everything.

I'm going to sell the bullet on eBay. And they're

like, oh, wow, you know, how does that, you know,

how's he already healed and this and that. And

so they kind of sit in there and. The doctor's

like, yeah, you know what he told me is like,

you know, back on his planet. Well, first of

all, he says, how would you think this guy is?

And guys like, I don't know, 35. And the other

doctor's like, he told me 78. He's like, what?

So just like that. The other doctor was like

WTF. And so he says he's 78 years old. He's like,

no way. And he's like, yeah, you know what else

he told me? The life expectancy on his planet

is 130 years. So the other doctor says to the

first doctor, he says. Really, 130 years like

how the heck do they figure that? Right as he's

handing the other guy a cigarette. And they're

lighting up, they're both lighting up cigarettes

like, oh, how do they figure that they live 130

years? Like what? Well, they have math on their

planet and this is also an anti cigarette movie.

start coughing. It's like, man, I got to really

stop that jogging. It's really going to get to

me. Like, I guess we'll never know if they did

that on purpose or probably not. But I thought

it was just really ironic. It's like handing

the guy a cigarette. And he's like, I don't know

how anybody could live 130 years. These are really

helpful. These are doctors. I'm sure you can

figure it out. Right you wish prescription for

opium to clear up your comments. Yeah We'll bleed

you, you know something's wrong with you yeah

bloodletting but uh So and then he like escapes

from the room and nobody knows how he escapes

yet. There was no one guarding the door And they

literally show these two guards they're like,

how did he get out? Like, because no one was

in front of the door. He broke the lock and he

snuck out. Like, so he goes and he gets this.

He rents this apartment in this house thing.

And there's which is a weird situation, too.

But like everyone lives in this house. They have

their own rooms, but they all eat breakfast together.

What's the deal with that? I don't know. Yeah,

it's like a B and B. But yeah, kind of apartments.

So and that's when we can see we can see it be

from the Andy Griffith show. By the way, I freaking

hate. I hate it be like Andy Griffith. Oh, that's

just wrong. Come on. Pure good. I hate it. She

is so annoying on the Andy Griffith show. No,

Andy. So she had a minor role, like just showing

up here. Yeah. It was kind of interesting to

see, though. I won't go into too much detail

about the rest of it, but, you know, basically

he wants to kind of, I guess you could say, assimilate

the society and sort of see things from their

perspective, see how people think and act. So

he kind of like, this is completely random, but

there's this lady and her son that live in this.

house and the ladies date this guy and he wants

to take her out somewhere. And she's like, what

am I going to do with my kid? And this alien

comes out and he's like, I'll watch him. And

she's like, OK. Nineteen fifty. But and I just

thought, how trusting was that? She leaves her

only son to this total stranger that she has

no clue. He has Mr. Carpenter's name. He's like,

oh, watch him. He's like, yeah, I'd be happy

to. And she's like, oh, OK, that works well.

Seems legit. Random stranger coming out to babysit

a 12 year old boy for no apparent reason. He

just met this guy two days ago. Just watching

a kid. But it's funny because they go, you know,

they go walk around town and the kids really,

you know, take into him and everything. And he

thinks he's a real swell guy and all this stuff.

By the way, actual use of the word swell in this

movie. Yeah, yeah. That was that was the time

when you could say the word swell and not get

made fun of. Gee, mister, you're really swell.

Yeah. You're a swell gay guy and not creepy.

Well, not that it's creepy now, but like, you

know. Gee, you're swell for not raping me, mister.

Your little boy voice is really creepy just that

you're that good at it. I am also really well

at I'm really good at doing a gay kind of female

voice. You're like a you're like a Gabriel Iglesias.

Fluffy. I'm fluffy. Been working on my diet and

working out, man. So, yeah. And it was interesting

just to just to watch this character try to see

things from their point of view. And he seeks

out this professor because he thinks he's the

only one that can kind of understand his super

genius. It was kind of like Reed Richards coming

to Earth. in a sense, because this alien clatue

is like super smart and everything. But it makes

for a really interesting movie. And it's not

it's not a scary movie by any means. Like it's

maybe for back then it kind of was like maybe

it freaked people out, but it just keeps your

attention. It's it's a very suspenseful movie.

It's very interesting. Just the like I said,

just the storytelling and the interaction with

the characters is good enough to Keep your attention,

which is kind of a rare quality in a lot of movies.

Yeah, I also have seen the day the earth. Of

course you have, Dan. Of course you have. The

sad part is I watched the remake before I saw

the original, which is probably sacrilegious.

But have any have any of you guys seen the remake

as well? I actually haven't. Don't worry. That's

not something I was. I was told specifically

not to watch it. Yes, you're welcome. Yeah. But

yeah, I do I do really like there So it's kind

of interesting like old -school side by where

like it's only elements of sci -fi and really

it's just a drama behind it It's usually with

these older type of movies the pacing is very

slow, but I think the intensity that Kind of

keeps up through the entire movie where it doesn't

really need to move fast So I think the age that

it was made in kind of went well with the pacing

of the movie. One thing I'd recommend to that's

along the same lines as the original invasion

of the body snatchers recommend that. And I think

it's actually on Netflix. Yeah, Netflix. But

one of the things I wanted to add was the the

the main actor that plays Clattu, which is, I

believe, Michael Rennie. I really like the small

stuff he did in this, just like. I mean, just

little things like. when he sees someone like

lock a door and fear, he just kind of smiles.

And it's like, I don't know, it just gets you

thinking about what's going on in this alien's

head. Like it's just things that are thought

provoking and stirs up a lot of questions. And

you just put these small little gestures and

facial expressions he has. And I really love

the work that they put into that, into the detail.

So I would say my closing phrase would be Klaatu

Barada Nikto. Apparently a very famous phrase

now But I would have to say I would have to grade

this as a minus I liked it a lot Wow, this is

the grades are thinking even higher than last

time so The question is will the trend continue

now? I'm worried like alright, so all the stuff

you guys gave got really high grade So my stuff

sucks. I'm gonna feel bad. But yeah, it's the

way cookie crumbles. I guess so Like i mentioned

greg gave me the comic saga that i've been wanting

to get into and greg's talking a great deal i

believe that that and fables were in your top

five favorite comics i think so um if my terrible

memory serves me I think I like them. Well, I'm

not sure if I put them in my top five at that

moment in time, but I do love those those comics.

I've been really stretching out and mostly hitting

up and loving image comics lately. Yeah, we talked

about them a little bit already. You know with

southern bastards and a few other comics i've

mentioned There's something freeing about reading

a comic that exists in its own universe And you

have to worry about 40 years of history and continuity.

Yeah, you feel a little bit more relaxed like

oh Thank you Yeah, this is one book I can just

follow from the end and what's kind of interesting

in saying that is for for saga being a like a

space opera Just like how many characters it

combines into one comic and does it so well It's

like if you took the entire marvel universe And

like try to basically break it down into one

book per se at least or half of the marvel universe

and focused on the main parts of it For those

that don't know like I mentioned it is An image

comic written by Brian King Vaughn and the artist

is Fiona Stables. And they're both excellent.

Brian K Vaughn is doing a lot of great work on

different stuff like Why the Last Man. He's one

of the producers on Under the Dome, which I really

enjoyed. Yeah, I guess a lot of people the big

claim like the comparison people would say it's

like Star Wars meets Game of Thrones and and

I see elements of that and it's more in with

like a Rummy and Juliet to ask because The actual

history plot of the story is that it takes place

in this universe where you have two warring planets

well one planet in its moon with the horns and

the wings and You know, they're people who don't

really get along but what they've done because

they are so close to each other their feud has

kind of spread across the universe and each planet

has had to be able to kind of indicate where

they stand within this you know are they with

the horns are they with the wings and what happens

is the two main characters in saga or your classic

romeo you know star cross lovers story of alina

who is part of the wings faction and then marco

who is a horn If you saw the cover of Saga, you'll

know who he is because he's like their horns

that look like a ram and uh, Alina has like like

smaller wings like a like a like a pixie, uh

fairy type type of thing, but uh Fiona Staples

does like gorgeous artwork and uh Female characters

gorgeous Marco looks freaking great. Fiona Staples

is just amazing Yeah, and her character designs

are great because they're not too Like over the

top by any means they are like they look to look

very realistic in In in that vein, uh, what's

really great too with her are in it's just the

coloring There's something about the colors.

She uses that are it's it's so bright and um

kind of uh A positive like upbeat color palette

that's going on Yeah, a lot of like a lot of

like I love the like the blues that yeah and

teals especially with like yeah It's the colors

that you don't really see that really like she

knows how to access them really well It is it's

like it's not overly bright. It's not like something

like a 1980s retro worth of that, but it's just

it's like modern brightness I guess and then

also with with the design of the graphic novels

in general. It's in the comic books They're not

just stuffing stuff into the comic book to get

more material in. They're leaving like a lot

of open positive space in the book, which just

kind of gives it another aspect of relaxing because

you're not inundated by stuff. It kind of gives

it this relaxed feel because there's even like

a blank page with just I think the title on there

or something. It's been a while since I looked

at my Saga graphic novels and I have to pick

up the third one yet, but just the whole design

and layout is just kind of minimalistic and that's

just kind of a breath fresh air because you're

not being inundated by things. It almost looks

a good word because it almost even describes

the plot in a lot of ways because the with Marco

and Alina basically, you know, they are two people

Mark they kind of fall in love Marco is a prisoner

of war in Alina his his prison guard per se and

they ended up getting a relationship and and

this is not like giving any spoilers because

this is right beginning in the book and they

have a child and it becomes these the two planets

that they are on both want To do away with both

of these characters. They just want them, but

they also don't want people to know they exist

so A lot of the plot is just like a chase story

really it's them that's trying to find Get away

and become safe and and what's really interesting

about the book too is there's almost No heroes

and villains per se all the characters are flawed

in some way The people that are going after Characters

like the bounty hunter the freelancers the ones

called the will who is one of them the major

characters No one's ever overly evil Everyone

has the legit motivations like it's and you can

people are kind of put in situations It's not

the person's motivations that makes them evil

It's basically the situation that they're put

in and they have to like there's one character

called robot prince robot The characters are

so great in this because it's such a weird and

interesting world It's such a like it's so The

collect I can't think of the word. I'm trying

to collect it was kind of it was kind of doing

it for me there Yeah, like because you'll have

like a character like a hamster That's you know,

just like like a normal hamster, but you know

enough more pies in it for more Anna for more

Anna We're all nailing this word. Chuck. Do you

want to try? In a corner Kova Exactly, they're

all in a corner It is like there's a lot of characters

that have like look like, you know animals and

but some are human and like there's I love the

robot characters because they're like they have

TV screens for faces and and especially when

you see the king of the robot Planet, which was

I thought hilarious. There's a lot of great humor

in it to Just really sly humor really small just

partly Britain and throughout the person that's

kind of narrating the story is the child of elena

amarco and her narration comes in in and out

and it's almost at times unreliable per se where

it's leading you down a certain path and but

then it kind of purposely tricks you in some

ways in clever and interesting ways but a lot

of great characters like it reminds me of like

like i said gamer thrones or the wires a good

comparison because you can go like an issue or

two and not even be with the main characters

but you don't notice just because of how many

great characters there are there's just a lot

in the intro they're really great at introducing

a character getting you to know that character

or you know expanding upon it like it's a book

that never dumbs down it it will go at a like

the pacing of it is really incredible it never

slows down but it never really gets caught up

in the plot like i said like it's weird it's

hard to explain like if i wrote down like the

major plot points of the of the book Like the

overall plot not a great deal happens yet a ton

of stuff different happens really like within

the first 12 issues uh, like it's like I said,

it's just chase that they're trying to get away

and It's not like they get really that far And

they don't even know where they're going even

No, no, you have no idea where the plot's gonna

go because it's i'm currently i'm actually caught

up. I'm on the 24th issue and At this point they're

still kind of with the same this the arc is still

going the main arc of them didn't trying to hide

to capture these characters and It's a storyline

that wouldn't mean mainly be like four or five

issues But it's the entire comic so far so what

you would think is a bad thing But it really

isn't just because there's so much going on and

it's so many different little wrinkles though

they'll take a break here and there and Then

you and then suddenly something will happen and

completely shift focus. There's really great

like The last the end of the 24th issue, which

is the most recent one led to a really Unexpected

partnership between some characters that you

would not think would go with one another but

uh, yeah, I highly recommend it it I I honestly

loved it like I talked about how I got into like

this fever pitch of wanting to get in the comics

and it's largely because of like Saga kind of

started in there. So like it just reminded me

of why I love comics Like this is really great

storytelling really great characters brings you

in this really unique Different world that you've

never really been in before that has influences

in other in certain places But doesn't but also

is just like super original and new and it also

reminded me of why I'm a geek and why I love

to read this kind of stuff and why I like to

be involved in this this whole genre of life

Yeah, I think a good representation of like creative

nature of good storytelling when it comes to

comic books and what you can do with that medium

because it really uses that well and there's

It's great because I didn't know really anything

about saga I just kind of knew that you know

what you mentioned Greg and I got heard of certain

characters like the lion cat and Didn't how that

works out, but it's just it's really cool. It's

just like You never knew where it's what it's

gonna do or what wrinkle it's gonna add and I

just love the universe that it slowly builds

and slowly expands upon so Chuck I I'm not sure

I think you I would highly honestly recommend

you picking it up to or Lisa first comic or to

see if you like it cuz I I mean I Without a doubt.

I love the comics. I would honestly give it an

A+. Wow highest rating so far Like I said, I

was like I was blown away like I read 24 issues

within Like two -week period so which is hard

like I had to find time for it again big reason

why I went to digital comics But yeah, I was

going about every night reading it. I just kind

of wait for the next issue Carol's like what

are you reading tan? You've been reading feverishly

And I tried to get her into it. I'm like, I think

you'll like this Let me explain why and and it

didn't really go well It went better than me

trying to getting her into sex criminals the

matte fraction book I'm like, I think you'll

like this book. It's about like when two people

have sex. They have the ability that I like.

That was a really hard sell. Yeah. She's like,

why would you think I would like that book? I'm

kind of pervert, Daniel. I'm like, yeah, that's

a good point. I don't know why I thought you

would like that book. But yeah, it's a it was

a good day for me because I got a good homework

assignment for me because I got to watch a really

good movie with Undisputed 2 and read a really

great comic with the saga. So. Yeah, I would

highly recommend it. So not much more to say.

Anything else you want to say about Saga? No,

I could probably go off on Saga for quite a while.

It's so good. Chuck, do you ever have any interest

in that book at all? No, I can't say that I have,

honestly. I haven't really heard much about it

until now. The bad thing about having digital

comics, I can't give you one of them. Here's

my tablet, Chuck. I know it's gonna sound narrow

-minded, but i'm usually really good at picking

out what i'm gonna like or not and I kind of

doubt I would like it but Yeah, yeah, I don't

know It's a little risque in some parts like

it's not uh For children, uh, really it's it's

got some sexual graphic images going on I I definitely

don't think chuck would enjoy those aspects of

it really that definitely was Noticeable in the

first few issues then it dies down and then kind

of goes back up. Yeah It's a bad thing about

to say sexual images that they go back and forth

They go up and down as well. I don't know. I

don't know if you'd like it beyond with each

other I pardon me things maybe you would would

but like like you said it and yeah, I've tried

to keep an open mind to move into other Types

of comics and stuff, but I'm just so Invested

in Marvel and DC stuff. I'm just so happy there

on that little cloud I mean, it was hard for

me to get just off the Marvel cloud. Yeah, I

mean I've I've tried other stuff and I some stuff

is okay, but I Generally, I just don't get into

that stuff Fair enough fair enough. All right.

So now I I'm curious to hear what you guys have

to To say and Greg you haven't gone over one

of your homework assignments in a while. So I

gave you the comic Un - Irredeemable. Irredeemable.

Which I enjoyed because it's by Mark Wade who

did a great job on a different graphic novel

that I read and I'm not coming up with the name

of it right now with my awful memory. But it's

mentioned in a podcast a long long time ago because

we've been on a - Decast radio for such a long

time, but it's it's one of these comic books

It's by boom studios and it's one of those publishers

that you don't really hear much from So I'm just

gonna throw out there that the artwork is is

just about average, but I really enjoyed the

story and the funny thing about the storyline

is that I kind of had an idea for a novel that

I'm trying to write that's kind of in the same

vein of a good guy really turning bad or evil.

So the main storyline I find interesting since

I I'm also trying to write about something like

this the premise of the graphic novel is that

there is this One superhero that is like the

best of them all and just he's essentially Superman.

He's got These massive powers where he essentially

cannot be beaten by any other superhero in the

entire world or even villain and he is Like not

really that well known like his personal life

or his personal information is not well known

by anybody and Essentially, he goes evil and

starts killing his teammates and his bad guys

and everybody It's been a while since I read

it. It's been like since a week or two ago. I

got done with my homework early. I'm not sure

if I get points for overachieving. But maybe,

Dan, if you want to remind me of why he kind

of goes nutso. Really, like within the first

graphic novel, we're not 100 % sure exactly the

reasoning behind it. It kind of hints at it.

It's been a while. It's been like a long time

since I've seen it. Well, there's this one scene

where he's on the roof and the other guy asks

him, how do you kind of stay in control or how

do you not wash? Like, like, how do you control

all of this power? Like that must be a lot on

your shoulders, which I kind of felt was the

the main takeaway of the book. The kind of I

felt like there was a lot of weight behind that.

Yeah. Yeah, it's like a complete meltdown where

it's like you just couldn't handle it anymore.

So it's just like, all right, this enough. It's

like you can't really have the pressure. whole

thing with him having a girlfriend as a superhero,

but he also knew the girl as A regular person

as an average Joe and kind of revealed that to

her and she this was the weird part to me which

kind of I Felt like brought the comic down a

little bit for me. I don't understand exactly

why but she likes Like she just flips out and

was like, I don't know you. Uh, like who the

hell are you? And starts telling everybody. I

feel like that wouldn't really happen in if this

was in a real life kind of situation. I don't

feel like somebody would do that. Like that's

like a complete dick move. Like I feel like they

would talk about it a little bit more. So that

kind of brought the comic down for me a little

bit. No offense, Dan. Well, I guess just to respond

to that, I guess that was more... To me, I saw

that as someone who was with someone and then

finds out they've been lied to for this entire

time. Yeah, but I feel like somebody wouldn't

go to the depths of just shouting out to everybody.

I'm not sure if it's just... how i grew up how

i was taught but i i wouldn't just like it's

somebody's secret even if somebody was lying

to you a whole time and i i don't feel like it

was that big of a lie like i could kind of understand

why he wouldn't tell it's just like a character

i i just don't agree with the the character yeah

definitely it's a thick move but i feel like

it fits The female like glows lane per se. It's

like the idea if she is More of a shallow character

who is more fame obsessed than I think that would

like that would be the reaction that she would

have like I agree Yeah, that's not something

someone should do but I feel it's more of a the

commentary on you know, if you have a This situation

where someone's so obsessed with fame is so obsessed

with career that they would they react that way

I think it's basically the way I took it is is

if imagine if like everything Ever what that

usually once goes right for superman went wrong.

Yeah, that's what that's why like that happened

that way It's almost like this alternate universe

where everything superman tried to do right went

wrong and then that caused him to go not so Yeah,

and then plus everybody is expecting more of

him and everybody's like He's he's like listening

to all the people talk about him after like he

saved something like he's just showing off Why

does he do this? Like really questioning him

because they don't know him. And so that kind

of turns him over to an evil side as well. I

really like him going evil. I feel like if Superman

was to go evil, he would have... Like, he would

be able to take down everybody in his circle

easier than is being done in this book. It's

a real interesting plot. I don't really care

for the character design of the other heroes

in the pseudo Justice League that's going on.

They have like the Chimera brothers, who I don't

really know what their powers are, to be quite

honest, who have this weird mask situation going

on and they're like twins. I feel like that design's

weird. And this one girl who has the ability

to call on spirits of... like the asian culture

like samurais and stuff where she has in the

flashback her costume looks like a giant ghost

sperm on a t -shirt kind of situation so like

the design is kind of weird and you kind of get

that with these lesser known publishers such

as boom studios which it's always a detraction

detraction for me with these lesser studios or

these less known studios. So that kind of brought

it down just a little bit for me, but I really

enjoyed the overall storyline. I also like this,

that he is scared of this one guy and how they

left it kind of suspenseful of we don't really

know why this superhero turned super villain

is afraid of this. a guy and the fact that one

of the main sort of rebels that was in the justice

pseudo justice league has like tons of robots

of this guy you kind of find out why he has them

at the end of this comic and it kind of leaves

it open to you really want to know what is up

with this super villain that that can really

take down this guy that's being such a dick and

like really affecting this world. I thought that

element really elevated the comic beyond those

elements that I've been really knocking so far.

But I thought it was really good. I'd give it

a B, a B plus situation. But yeah, I'd recommend

to people and not for the artwork though The

artwork is is just kind of average that you would

find in lesser publishers than the top two or

Image really because Fiona Staples really brings

up image a lot if you ask me I mean Fiona Staples

call me call me and please let me purchase some

of your artwork Uh, yeah, I would agree the artwork

is just kind of like generic Yeah Yeah, I I completely

agree with that term. That's that's a good use

of the word generic I think and there's actually

a what's interesting too. There's a Corresponding

series that's like With superman going bad. It's

like if lex luther went good so I think part

of the issue too is a lot of the characters designs

is you like there are certainly influences from

marble and Or dc more so and I think what they

have to be showing the influences but also You

know not infringing on copyrights. So I think

yeah, it's it's kind of tough. But uh, but yeah,

I agree the art probably is There are a few boom

Books from boom where I think the art is good

like hit is probably the best one i've seen so

far But uh, yeah, so it I don't think they they

have They don't have the creative teams that

like image shows at this point, but I think they're

certainly expanding All right, Chuck, you've

had plenty of time to work on your last assignment.

So I'm really curious to hear what you had to

say regarding the ultimate storyline that the

ultimate comic that you were given. I did not

do it. No kidding. The ultimate. I feel like

this was something that was like so highly praised

and something that I should have read a long

time ago. Especially initially started off like

this doesn't sound good. And then all of a sudden

it turned to, oh, wait, maybe it's it's good.

But I mean, after reading it, I feel like I really

should have read it a long time ago now, because

obviously a lot of ideas for the Avengers movie

came from this. Yeah, like a lot more than I

realized. But I guess get right into it. Obviously,

it's it's the Marvel Ultimate Universe, so it's

a little different than the 616. I'm probably

not telling anyone anything new here, but it's

the Ultimates rather than being called the Avengers.

But and they kind of like. I know, Dan, you mentioned

before about the the cartoons, like the animated

movies of the Ultimates, which I did get to see

a while back, and I thought it would kind of

be closer to that because I guess I'm used to

the DC movies where they're like pretty much

right off the page. But I'm surprised these these

were a little bit different. I cringe a little

bit, but I got to say, I honestly thought I would

like this a lot because I like the movies, but

this really didn't do it for me. Wow. You're

really up and down on this review in the first

like two minutes. Well, I was trying to throw

everybody off. I didn't want to. I don't want

to lead right in with the bad. But no, honestly,

there's really a lot of things in this that like

really turned me off while reading it. And I

mean, don't get me wrong, there was there was

a lot of great moments, too, that I really liked

the way they did it and stuff. But for the most

part, I was I was kind of disappointed. I'm sorry,

Dan. I feel like you're getting the beat down

on this whole homework thing. I got to spoil

the the high grades party here. I got to hear

what those issues are. My grade wasn't exactly

high, but I feel like Chuck's is going to be

worse. I am so sorry, Dan. It's it's not necessarily

that it's I'm not saying it's a bad book. I think

it was it was very good book But it's just different.

It was just things that I didn't like personally

I guess the the first thing it was a huge turn

-off for me was the Hulk talking about being

horny Come on like that was pretty bad Oh, you

haven't read it, Greg? No, I haven't. But it's

like, I don't know. To me, it just ruined the

flow of the story because it's kind of like you

get the reaction like Greg just had. And it's

just like it just interrupts the story for you.

And like, what the hell is he talking about?

Like, he's like, oh, corny for Betty. Like what?

Well, we all are, Hulk. He just got like. It

was interesting. But I guess another thing. I

didn't like the way they did Betty Ross in this.

I thought she's very cold and condescending person,

especially to Banner, which I know they're having

relationship troubles and everything. But to

me, it just wasn't like her character at all.

They kind of made her a total bitch. And I didn't

necessarily think it added anything to the story

by making her like that. So that kind of puzzled

me. I guess something else would be Banner. They

kind of made into this bumbling fool that, you

know, nobody respects and nobody takes seriously.

He's like just a dork. He's the butt of the joke

for people. He's depressed and sulky. And it's

just like it was more of like a Peter Parker

to me. Like it really got that feel. Yeah. And

it didn't for some reason didn't really work

for me, but. And I got it. I mean, I'm going

heavy with the bad here. I do have some stuff

that I like. By the way, Chuck, by the way, Chuck,

who is the author of this? The author of this?

Yes, Mark Miller, which I was shocked because

I really liked his Civil War stuff. But to me,

this was this was markedly different than the

Civil War stuff. And like it, it kind of like

seemed. simplistic in a lot of places. Like almost

like a low reading level. I don't know if that

was intentional or something, but. Maybe trying

to get the younger generation into it kind of.

Yeah, and I thought that. I mean, that's which

is fine. I think that's what the Ultimates was

meant to do. Yeah, but it's kind of it's it's

kind of grown up though and some some so well

yeah Hulk want Betty and Hulk want to put it

in Betty and as Dan probably edit out especially

the whole thing with like Hank Pym like, you

know, beating his wife. That's like not something

for. Well, that happened in the regular universe.

Yeah, Hank Pym is a dick. We can all agree on

that, but we're going to find that out in the

next Marvel movie. I'll go some things I did

like I loved the stuff in the beginning with

with the World War Two stuff with Captain America

and the other soldiers. I thought that sequence

was awesome. And I like I was like when they

do flashbacks to that kind of stuff and what

he was like back then and. How his fellow soldiers

talked about him and like regarded him and everything.

I thought that was really cool sequence Something

that was kind of skimmed through too quickly

in the animated movie. I thought was really well

done in this I like that a lot also very gratifying

part Cap taking down a humongous naked giant

man all by himself You got me a humongous naked

naked giant man Yeah, that one was that part

was pretty great. I like that. And then I like

the part two where they're kind of talking about

what actors would play them in a movie. And of

course, you have Nick Fury. He's like, of course,

Samuel L. Jackson. I was like, yes. Do they guess

right on any of the other ones or? No, I don't

think they do. I think because I was looking

to see for Iron Man and he said like, well, they

said like Brad Pitt for Captain America. And

Captain America's like, Who's Brad Pitt? And

I forget what they said for Tony Stark. Was it

Clooney or something like that? I think so. Yeah.

I think Clooney would make a great Iron Man.

Yeah. But I like that stuff. I like how I mean,

I like how they. Kind of used the Chitauri as

basically the scrolls and they kind of explained

that by saying like, you know Some people call

them the scrolls and people call them the Chitauri

on different planets and everything Do they still

have the shape -shifting ability? Yes, which

is one thing they didn't adopt in the the movie

with like the actual Avengers movie which would

have been probably way too complicated but but

I thought that was a cool part in this too because

like There was this whole like, Dan, I don't

know if you got this feeling, there was sort

of like a secret invasion part to this. Like

they kind of infiltrated the society for like

all these years and everything. Yeah, yeah, I

think. I mean, I guess more so the line of something

like like I said, like the body snatchers or

something like that, where it's more of a. So

it's combining a lot of different things. And

I'd like to read this one funny part at the end.

And Greg's going to get. I kick out of this because

he hasn't read it yet. And it's just it doesn't

you know, it's not a major part of the plot,

but they kind of like basically get the Hulk

mad and they and they get them to change and

everything to attack this one guy. And Captain

America gets him to go after this guy. He's fighting

by telling him that, you know, that naked guy

over there was like all over was all over Betty.

this this, you know, last couple of days and

Hulk just like freaks out. And I was laughing

at loud at this part, but it would be great if

he kept told him, oh, that's Betty over there.

And then Hulk just pumps this guy to death. But

he trade circles. Marvel, check us out if you

want this written. Hulk just grabs this guy by

the ankle and he goes, Hulk show naked guy what

happens when he touches Banner's girlfriend.

HULK TOUCH NAKED GUY LIKE NAKED GUY WAS TOUCHING

BETTY. And he just continues to beat the crap

out of him, and just literally rips his head

off. And then he's screaming, he's like, NAKED

GUY MAKE HULK ANGRY. I was like, he should have

been at the Baltimore Comic Con with the guy

in the loincloth. But that part was great. There

were a lot of great moments. I would say overall,

I liked the book. There was some nitpicky stuff

that I didn't like, but I didn't get to read

the Ultimates 2. I didn't get into them yet.

I just read Volume 1 and 2, the first Ultimates,

which are the first 13 issues of that series.

Because I will say we're guarding your issue

with like banner and I think that Is set up because

you see a lot of progression with that character

with the ultimates too Which I honestly think

is better than the beginning of it because it

gets into more of a global Like a war going on

and get some in some really good moments of Hawkeye

in that Yeah, it's been a I mean years since

I've seen it But I don't remember the simplistic

element of it that you're mentioning. I I'm curious

what you mean by that I think it could have been

a lot to do with my mood too, not my mood, but

what I've been reading prior to this, because

it was a story of that classic, the world's in

peril and everything's on the line. For some

reason, it may not be the book's fault, but for

some reason, everything's... seemed like somewhat

predictable to me, like nothing was jumping out

at me like, oh, that was awesome. You know, like,

like I said, it's not necessarily the book's

fault because the second volume, which are issues

seven through 13 did pick up a lot for me. The

first volume was a little slow for me, but the

second one picked up a lot more. So we'll give

it that. Yeah, I don't know if the first volume

is. heavy on the like twists and turns per se

it's more i think more just trying to establish

the whole universe it's more so showing you how

these characters are going to be different though

if anything the ultimate characters are not that

much different than than the ones in the regular

universe but uh i'd be curious if you would like

the the second volume more because i think that

goes into new Territory that doesn't think it's

away from just the classic more Avengers storylines

where I don't know if there's surprises per se

but they're just a lot of like interesting moments

of where they go yeah, I will say like the The

one thing that was weird too kind of was like

how they kept saying like Thor was a pacifist

and everything but like I mean he's he still

would like you know, obviously you'd kick butt

if he was called upon and everything but There

was like all these, this thing like Nick Fury

was saying, this guy is like a pacifist and like,

you know, it's really hard to get him to fight

and do anything. Which in like the other universe,

Thor is like his, his anger is second only to

like the Hulk. Like if he's challenged to fight,

like he's going to freaking throw down with you.

But, um, I do like how they did Cap. Cap was

really like, he was in charge. He was aggressive.

He was tactical. I thought how they did Cap was

great. Um, I really liked that part of it. the

like they definitely nailed like the whole Hank

Pym thing and how he's kind of like, you know,

a total jerk and full of himself, even though

he's not that not that great, you know. Yeah.

You know how he always like he grows up, you

know, to like 60 feet tall and he thinks he can

like stop anybody, but he always gets his ass

kicked. But so like they nailed a lot of that

stuff. And I really love the. Think I like this

version of Nick Fury better too. Like he's definitely

more Like he's more interactive and I like his

relationship with Captain America a lot It's

kind of like this to these two old soldiers and

a lot of times They kind of know what each other's

thinking as far as strategy and stuff like that

So I definitely like this version Nick Fury better

and obviously that's the one That the movies

based on yeah, I think the movie took the movies

have taken like a little bit from the ultimate

universe and a little bit from the regular 616.

Yeah. Interesting. So what grade would you end

up giving the ultimate? I would say I would go

low, low. I'm going to say like a B minus because

there's still, like I said, there's still a lot

of aspects of it that I really liked. Although

I was sort of confused about Quicksilver and

Scarlet Witch because they kind of came in and

didn't do nothing and then they kind of showed

up at the end but yeah they have to kind of go

back and reread that yeah they end up showing

up more in ultimates 2 and then and then what's

what sinks though is like with ultimates 3 new

writers come in and then it like it ends up just

becoming like a generic avengers book so it uh

like all pretty much everything that came before

is forgotten then it's uh it just becomes like

thor becomes like regular thor and it wasn't

nearly as good so Yeah, I definitely like the

like the more modern feel to it and stuff, you

know, how sort of how it would go down nowadays

if a team like that was to get together. So,

yeah, still a lot of good aspects of it. Didn't

mean to like bash it or anything. I mean, I'm

I get like. Like I said, I've been weird mood

lately and like, I guess I just got Nick Picky.

But like I said, the second book I did like a

lot better. So I'm curious to kind of. try out

the Ultimates 2 volumes and see if I start to

like them even more. Yeah, very cool, very cool.

Chuck needs to read the second volume here on

antidepressants, apparently. Alright, so we like

to end each episode with a letter, but we're

gonna do a little bit... a little different idea

here. You know, we've done the unknown saga and

we're gonna take a break from that. We'll be

getting back to that shortly. And we're actually

going to be kind of acting out some... Interesting

email correspondence from if you go to the website

do not reply comm you'll there's a lot of great

responses with people between Craigslist and

some funny emails basically as it's a tagline

is emails from an asshole So we're gonna take

one of their most one of the the first ones I

did which is which is regarding communication

between two people in a fish tank a guy wants

to sell a fish tank and Then problems ensue.

So we'll be acting this out and hopefully it'll

end up working out so and and maybe we'll even

put a link down below the the record here oh

yeah definitely i will be putting a link in the

geocast reader .com to the website and chonk

is going to be playing the part of the person

trying to buy the fish tank i am the seller of

the fish tank and greg will be playing a special

role that'll be coming up later on in the discussion

so i don't want to spoil it because it adds to

the spoiler alert guys it is a minimum wage job

just like this podcast All right, Chuck, so you

can start whenever you're ready. OK. So I am

the guy inquiring about the fish tank. Yes. OK,

here we go. The original ad that the response

starts from is original ad, 55 gallon tank, great

condition, no scratches, comes with filter, $125,

a phone number, call me only in caps, no emails

with caps. 484 phone number. So that's the email

or that's the correspondence that Chuck is now

responding to Hey That fish tank is beautiful.

I must have it. Is it still for sale? Call the

number What number? 484 -755 -5555 I Just called

that number and nobody answered. I never heard

it ring call again and leave a message of no

answer I just called it again. Nobody picked

up, so I went to leave you a message. But it

said your voicemail was full. My voicemail wasn't

full. It never rang. Are you calling the right

number? 484 -755 -5555? I just called the number

again and I got a fax machine noise. Is there

a trick to dialing your number? What trick? It's

a phone number. You just dial it. You sure you

didn't give me the number to a fax machine? Would

you rather communicate through fax? That would

actually be easier for me. No! I wasn't sure

what to do, so I sent you a fax. Did you get

it? Don't send me a fax! Stop sending me faxes!

Seriously, stop trying to send me a fax! It won't

work because it's a cell phone! Can't you just

set your cell phone to fax machine mode? What

the hell is fax machine mode? Cell phones don't

have that! Oh my god, dude, enough with the faxes!

Sorry, I set the fax machine to try sending the

fax every 15 minutes until it goes through. It

was the office fax machine and I already left

for the weekend. Can this wait until Monday?

No one can't wait until Monday, are you fucking

kidding me? Go back to your office and cancel

it right now! My apologies, I can't go back.

I'm at the airport and my flight to Vancouver

leaves in an hour and a half. I'll cancel the

fax on Monday when I get back. Hey! No! Fuck

that! You better find a way to cancel this shit

right now! Call somebody at the office! Make

them do it! I'm fucking serious here! Nobody

is at the office. It's 6 .30! Actually, you know

what? The janitor might be there. We are pretty

good friends. You want me to contact him? Yes.

Okay, I gave him your info. He's going to call

you shortly. I'm on the plane now, and they're

making us turn our cell phones off for takeoff.

Good luck. Don't have him call me, you idiot!

Just have him cancel the facts! This is an automated

out of office reply from Mike. I will be out

of the office on vacation in Canada until Monday,

June 10th. I will not be checking my emails until

I return. Have a great weekend, eh? God damn

it! This is an automated out of office reply

from Mike. I will be out of the office on vacation

in Canada until Monday, June 10th. I will not

be checking my emails until I return. Have a

great weekend, eh? Enter Greg as Dave the janitor.

Hi there. Is this Felix? Mike told me to contact

you about buying a fish tank. I'm Dave the janitor

at Mike's office I tried calling the number he

gave me but it sounded like a fax machine or

something So I am emailing you instead Yeah,

hi Dave. Here's the situation Mike has no idea

how phones work and tried to send me a fax to

my phone using a fax machine at his office. Now

my phone is getting a call from his fax machine

every 15 minutes. He said you can cancel the

fax. Yeah, Mike didn't send anything about a

fax machine to me. He told me to buy a fish tank

from you and he'd get it from me on Monday. Oh

Jesus Christ! No, he's supposed to tell you to

cancel the fax that keeps coming to my cell phone.

Are you at the office? Can you stop the fax?

So you aren't selling the fish tank? Look, forget

the fish tank. Just stop the fax machine, please.

Why are you so worried about this fax machine?

Can you just turn your cell phone to fax mode?

That isn't a thing! Look, I'm done screwing around

here. Just stop the fax machine, okay? Tell you

what? I'll cancel the fax machine if you drop

the price on a fish tank to $75. Look, I am in

no mood to haggle with a janitor over a fucking

fish tank. Excuse me? With a janitor? What is

that supposed to mean? What if I had a fancy

rich person job as an investment banker? Would

you haggle with me then? I don't like your condescending

tone, buddy. I know being a janitor isn't the

most desirable job, but I gotta put food on the

table for my kids somehow. Sorry I'm not an astronaut

with a degree in brain surgery. You're in no

mood to argue with the janitor. Well guess what?

I'm in no mood to turn off fax machines for a

rude, snobby, patronizing fish tank owner. I

didn't mean to insult you. I like janitors. I'm

sorry. Can you please just turn off the fax machine?

Fine, but I'm telling Mike what you said to me

and I don't think he will want to buy a fish

tank from you after that. Are you this rude to

your fish? Oh, I'm Felix. Sorry, I'm in no mood

to feed a goldfish. Maybe if you were a $500

blue face angelfish, I would feed you. Are you

done? Yeah, I stopped the fax. Sorry it took

me so long to figure out how to cancel it. I'm

just a janitor. What do I know about fax machines?

I don't have a fancy degree in fax machine engineering.

Yeah, yeah. That's enough. Thanks. Bye. A few

days later. Felix, I just got back from Canada

to find out you were belittling my janitor. Dave

is one of the best janitors I have ever had the

pleasure of working with, so you better watch

your mouth. You think you're better than him

or something? Big words coming from a guy who

doesn't even own a fax machine. You can forget

about me buying your fish tank. Good, because

I'm not selling anything to a stupid fuck. Can't

even figure out how to dial a phone number. Please

stop harassing me and Dave. You've done enough.

Leave us alone. Oh, I'm harassing you? The dumbass

who sends a fax machine to me every 15 minutes

and leaves for the fucking country? You know

how many times that fax machine called me, you

stupid piece of shit? You have the nerve to say

I'm harassing you? Go fuck yourself, you fucking

fuckhead. This is an automated out of office

reply from Mike Hola, I will be on vacation in

Mexico until Monday June 17th and will not be

checking my email until I return adios amigos

Well, I hope you enjoyed that little escapade

and like I mentioned we got that from do not

reply comm and I'll be putting an episode I'm

putting a link in episode post and there's actually

even more fun here ones on there as well So go

ahead and check them out. It's a lot of it's

a lot of good time But anything else before we

bring this episode to a close Yeah, I just wonder

how that fax machine thing works. I don't even

know I Don't think you can even get a degree

for that I think that you figure out how to factor

seems what you need to do is go to iTunes and

give a rating to talking in circles podcast of

five stars and You'll that's exactly how that

works. So Oh, is that how that works? It is,

it's amazing. What else can you tell me to get

in contact with you guys besides those pesky

fax machines? The iPod's review page even works

in Canada and Mexico. It does. That is a good

thing to know, but can I get in touch with you

guys through that Twitter thing? You can, and

Facebook by searching Talking in Circles UCRN,

though you can't get in contact with Chuck because

he doesn't believe in Twitter. Oh, well the Chuck

doesn't believe in that Twitter? No, but you

can get in contact with Greg at The Great Forge

or myself at Movie Revolt. That's amazing! It

really is. Or go to GeekCastReader .com or nerdly

.co .uk and you can comment on the episode post

there as well. I don't think those nerdly people

like that Gregfeller too much because he insulted

the Brits. He died. Well, he everyone except

for Emma Watson. So that is true. That is one

horny son of a bitch that Greg Feller. He is

he. Yeah. But yeah, there's all those ways he

can contact with us. Well, that's the end of

the episode for this week. We'll be back next

week. Same time, same channel, same podcast feed.

But for now, this has been Chuck. This has been

Greg. or name the janitor and this has been dan

and we've been talking in circles we'll see you

next week you think your podcast is better than

name the janitor just because i don't have the

fancy degree in podcasting that would be the

worst degree in podcasting Somebody probably

has it because they have all these classes on

like oh how Superman got his powers or how to

how to write a Pacific Rim or something. They

have all these weird niche -y classes anymore.

If anything maybe I need to take to how to take

a podcast or get a degree in podcasting maybe.

Just shorten that the length of one. Yeah, yeah.

Maybe we're gonna start off here by just going

over what we gave each other and Which sounds

bad like a sign not like VD or something like

that, but just assignments What is happening

right now? I don't know all right. Let me do

that one again I have no idea. I'm high on Mountain

Dew. You should switch over the hard stuff