Talking in Circles
Food, The Quick and the Dead, Guardians Trailer & Godzilla

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Bert? What? I think you and I are going in circles.
It feels like we're going in circles. The circuit
is now complete. When I left you, I was about
to learn you. Now I am the master. Because it's
a circle. Yeah, we heard about the circle. Yeah,
it's with a million of its shapes. Hi, this is
Chuck. This is Greg and this is Dan and we are
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a full episode this time We'll back again. And
if you listen to the last episode you you probably
heard the fact that we had a little bit of a
recording snafu I don't know. I kind of think
there was this conspiracy going on. I don't know
what you guys think but clearly someone's messing
with us There's definitely conspiracy going on.
I mean think about we're talking about the the
Batman Superman sequel and that whole thing about
Batman wasn't thrown in there to save the franchise.
We were snubbed on that one. Yeah. We'll find
out who it was and we'll surely get our vengeance.
I promise you that. I think honestly that the
Secret Service was listening in and they just
shut us down. Darn you, NSA. I think that honestly
Hollywood should make a movie about it one day.
the great podcast mystery yeah genius genius
i'd go see that movie i'd go see that movie for
sure besides all that how's the week been going
for you guys not bad i just had some meatloaf
so i'm excited about that i was i was doing the
will ferrell thing i was like eat love eat the
meatloaf so yeah nice and nice and content right
now greg how's your weekend going I only had
a little filet with bacon wrapped around it.
That's the way of steak. That sounds delicious.
And it's sad that when I hear filet, I just get
that filet of fish song stuck in my head. This
was much better than that. I'm not much of a
fish guy, but more of a turf guy. So I'm going
to say that mine was better. I really love turf
and also nerf. Nerf is a lot of fun. but i wouldn't
recommend eating that though no no pretty sure
that's a choking hazard there's a good there's
a good chance see you guys had all that food
and i had freaking arby's so i think you guys
went i love arby's yeah but they smoked their
meat for 13 hours you know they keep their meat
out for 13 hours i'm pretty sure they're not
smoking it there's a guy that just smokes by
it and puts a cigarette Is only smoked meat brought
to you by malboro, but yeah, it's kind of a busy
week We have family coming down this week because
my wife is graduating from uh, john hopkins for
her master So a little bit of a busy. Oh, yay.
Yeah. Um, so it's kind of craziness Yeah, I will
pass on here. Congrats unless she's listening.
Who knows? Maybe she'll listen while she stopped
listening. We don't have to do this chug. She
stopped listening She gave up on us so it is
carol In that case, who cares about Johns Hopkins?
Like, that's a big deal. Looking at the bill,
it is kind of a big deal. I bet. But anyways,
yeah, so that's going on. But besides that, you
know, enjoying the summer. Finally, the weather
is getting warmer, sun's shining. We're not getting
rain a few days a week, which is nice. No longer
always living in Seattle. I felt like we're just
getting monsoon after monsoon. Hey, we won the
Super Bowl, everybody. Look at that. Chuck you're
mentioning that you are watching a movie or something.
What else have you been up to? Yeah, I did catch
a movie this weekend It was another one of those
that I just kind of happened to catch on TV and
decided to watch it It was the 1990s Western
the quick and the dead. Ooh Sam Raimi. Nice.
Yes I was I was curious if either of you guys
have seen the quick and the dead. I wasn't sure
I have not seen it. I do own it, but I have not
seen it, which is a case for a lot of movies.
It may not have been opened yet and I bought
it like five years ago. So very nice. You said
it was the quick and the dead, right? Yeah. OK.
I got confused because I like it's the Skype
skipped for a second. So all I got was of the
dead and I heard Sam Raimi. So I wasn't sure
if it was one of the Bruce Campbell movies. But
I have seen Quick and the Dead. Yeah, I mean,
it's. It is a star -studded movie for sure. I
mean you look at Gene Hackman Sharon Stone Leo
DiCaprio and Actually, believe it or not Russell
Crowe's first American movie Wow, yeah, no nobody
had a clue who this guy was before this movie
so Apparently Sharon Stone like hand -picked
him like she wanted him in the movie or something
and So that was kind of interesting. During the
interview process she uncrossed her legs and
that's how he took the role. He was like, I'll
take it. And the role too. But yeah, you go back
to, this movie goes back to 1995 and Leonardo
DiCaprio looks like he's about 11 years old in
this movie. So like a few years younger than
now. Yeah He's competing with Eli Manning though
for that I Swear he looks like he is still like
22 years old. The guy doesn't age. It's really
weird He grows a goatee that helps him out a
little bit in the guy He was an amazing spider
-man to look so much like young Leonardo DiCaprio.
It's creepy. Yeah and yeah, like even if you
look at Russell Crowe, like how how young he
looks and stuff like that, but Dan, I'll try
not to ruin it too much for you because I know
you said you haven't seen it and everything,
but the basic like just this young woman rides
into town and everyone in the saloon signing
up for this like gunslinging tournament. It's
like a fast draw competition and except it's
against each other and you could kind of die
if you get in front of somebody else's bullet.
So it's kind of a big deal. There's a huge pot
of money we have to follow. The tournament rules
were laid out by this guy named Harad, who is
played by Gene Hackman. And he's kind of like
the ruler of this town. He's like, for some reason,
in control of this town, kind of has them all
under his thumb, everything. Is Harad really
hard? No, he's kind of a softy. Oh, he's a softy.
I hope he doesn't spit when he talks. That would
be... Really awkward. He does kind of. Yeah.
It's awkward. Like that conversation. I'm just
trying to roll with whatever you're saying, Greg.
Basically, you learn some stuff through some
flashbacks about the young woman's past and all
this other stuff. I don't want to ruin it too
much for Dan and anybody else that might be interested
in it, but I will say the It's a pretty interesting
plot. It's a pretty interesting movie. It works
fairly well. There's a lot of good parts to the
movie that I like. Mainly the ending is really
well done. But there's a lot of things that just
completely ruin it for me and make it incredibly
corny and like just plain stupid in some spots.
And honestly, I was surprised at first to learn
that Sam Raimi directed this. But after I thought
about it. I kind of saw some resemblance to like
his other movies and stuff. But like, firstly,
one of the problems I had was a lot of the camera
shots where they like they zoom in really quickly
on the faces of characters and then they do everyone's
face like right after the other like zooming
in on them. Just to me, it looks makes it look
so campy and goofy and stuff like that. Then
you have shots where the cameras like focused
on a character and then the background. Is kind
of being warped and stretched out and stuff like
that It just looks like really dumb to me. I
don't think it goes well with this type of movie
and It would be so much better in my opinion
if it was set In a very serious tone and kind
of use that tried -and -true format just to make
like a darn good Western out of it it's just
a lot of things that didn't fit for me, but and
the other thing was some of the death scenes
were, like, really overdone. Like, the guy gets
hit with a bullet and he, like, flails his whole
body backwards and flips onto the ground and
stuff. It just looks really, like, unrealistic.
Like, the poor guy probably needed to visit the
chiropractor after that take or something. Remy
is one who does enjoy his silliness, for sure.
I mean, Evil Dead, you know, Evil Dead, the first
one wasn't too silly. It was more... just low
budget. The second one had some silliness to
it and especially just a little bit, just a little
bit, but it was, I know I was a good, a good
silliness. I think it worked for that movie.
He always was able to kind of mix different tones
really well. He does really have a unique style.
That's, that's really his own. I can imagine
how that would be kind of awkward in a Western.
And I've heard, I've not seen the movie, but
I've heard similar complaints that it just, it
just doesn't work. And maybe it was a little
bit too. His style just needed to be muted down
a little bit, but hopefully I'll check it out
soon and see if I agree. Yeah. Like I said, when
I found out he directed it and I thought about
even Spider -Man and some of the weird angles
he took in that and different zooms and stuff
on Jameson and Spider -Man. And I'm like, yeah,
I could see that. But to me, it doesn't work
for a Western though. And apparently he's really
into Hercules stuff, too, as you can really tell
by his resume, like all the Hercules stuff he's
done, but not so good at the old west stuff there,
Sam, sorry. But it was funny. I wanted to mention,
too, that. Oddly enough, Sam Raimi's original
ending for the movie wasn't working out so well,
and he went to Sony to hire a writer. And they
came back with Josh, Josh Whedon, of all people.
Nice. And of course, known for his Avengers fame
now and everything written and directed in that
movie. But Weedon comes in to The Quick and the
Dead and he rewrites the ending in one afternoon.
And the ending is actually really good to this
movie. It's my favorite part of the movie. But
I thought that was a great tidbit. But I mean,
I look at the movie, it's got tremendous potential.
with the script even with the cast like all this
good stuff going on and I just think maybe I
would have picked a different director just based
on like Sam Raimi style and something like that
but the weird thing is apparently Sharon Stone
really wanted Sam Raimi as well because the studio
sent her a list of directors and asked her which
one she would prefer and she sent back one and
that was Sam Raimi Yeah, she doesn't kind of
have that pull anymore. You feel like I want
this director be like, who are you? I don't know
what you're doing here. Go sit down. And I guess
you really wanted DiCaprio, too. And apparently
there's a rumor that she actually paid his salary
herself. I don't know how true that is. It sounds
kind of far fetched, but. Interesting. So is
she like the main star in the movie or is she
just? Yes, she's pretty much the central character.
Interesting. I never would have guessed that
with a with that cast list, but I guess she was
kind of big at the time. So yeah. Yeah, I mean,
it's more of a split up between her, Russell
Crowe and Jean Hackman. Yeah, I mean, it's I
guess if you look at like screen time and stuff,
but the central story is around her pretty much
like, you know, I would agree with you, though.
There's some like there's some backstory between.
Gene Hackman and Russell Crowe's character that
is kind of like weaved into it, too, though.
So, but yeah, like I said, it's got great potential
with the story that they have going on. But some
of those things ruined it for me. And maybe,
Dan, maybe you'd feel differently if you checked
it out. But yeah, I will. Maybe it will give
me an excuse to watch it this weekend. So. Yeah,
be curious thoughts or you can just keep watching
AMC because they replay it about 20 billion times
in one month See I'm I have a rule where I do
not watch a movie for the first time on TV Because
the TV editing you never know what you're kind
of missing So I don't I don't know why I make
rules that really have no purpose, but I do so
but uh Yeah, but you made the rule so you can
break it. That's true Or if you just watch the
movie that way I don't have to be like oh I can't
have to wait until two o 'clock to watch when
it's on I can just pop in my DVD so Plus it'll
give me an excuse to open it and feel like I
made that purchase for a reason It's not just
wasting money. I think it cost me like five bucks.
So who knows? Yeah, it's not too bad. It was
an impulse buy. So all right anything else That's
pretty much all I was up to this weekend. All
right, Greg I know you're tend to be a little
bit more cultured than Greg and then Chuck and
I yeah, so cultured. Yeah, I know Professor Greg
here. What have you been up to? Not a real professor.
So you can you can probably teach at our college.
I read a book. You'll hear the name of it and
be like, OK, he's not that cultured. It's no
better than Twilight. Thank God. But the movie
probably version of it was probably just as bad.
I read a Percy Jackson book. It was in that series.
house of hades it's the the latest one out i
remember when we way back in like a second episode
when we talked about what we're looking forward
to you mentioned this so curious to hear what
you thought of it well i think i was looking
forward to the second movie i think was that
out around the time when we first started the
second movie came out last year so oh okay never
mind but yeah i was i was looking forward to
reading this book and i i finally got around
to reading it and let me tell you the the books
are way better than the movies. The movies kind
of leave out a lot of fun stuff. But these stories
are kind of meant for younger kids, younger than
I am. I believe on Amazon, it says recommended
for ages 10 to 14. So I don't unless you're calling
a whole bunch of 10 to 14 year old kids cultured.
I'm not really that cultured, but it does have
close. Yeah. It does have to deal with mythology
and all these Greek, and in this one, they combine
in Roman gods and the demigod children of those
gods trying to make their way through fighting
the entities that they make more evil. In this
particular book, I'm going to say the name and
you guys are going to shout out cultural references,
but they're fighting Gaia. Or Gaya, however you
say that name. No, nothing? Oh, is it G -A -I
-A? Is that how you spell it? It's G -A -E -A.
G -A -E -A -A. I was expecting Captain Planet
shout -outs. Yeah, I've seen that in some other
stuff, too. Well, she's the Greek. I believe
it's Greek. Greek god for the Earth. We've got
the two camps, the one Roman camp and the kids
from the Greek camp from Camp Half -Blood kind
of combining forces with this one team trying
to go over and save Percy and Anabath from Tartarus.
No crest or Colgate jokes. So they're they're
over trying to rescue them from house of hell
and also Try and stop the the Giants from raising
from Tartarus but at the same time before they
left there was a bit of the dispute between the
two camps and the stuff that this party has kind
of attacked the Roman camp by Accident quote
unquote. I'll let you guys find that out through
reading and not going to spoil that for anybody
So the Roman cat camp gets attacked and they
think it's attacked by the Greeks So while these
group of heroes are going off to do all those
those fun things The Romans are going over to
attack the Greek camp so they have to do all
this stuff and try and make it back in time to
they have a a giant statue that they rescued
in a previous book that they're trying to take
back to the camp to kind of put a piece in between
the two camps, which is still kind of left open
at the end of this book. There's there's still
another book coming out. I believe that one's
coming out in October at some point. And that's
going to wrap up. Are they going to defeat the
earth goddess? Are they going to be able to get
the statue back in time before the two camps
attack each other and have a whole bunch of their
friends die in the meantime? Who knows? We're
still waiting on that, but I think it's a great
book to read. You don't have to know much about
Greek mythology to enjoy it. because the author
Rick Reardon gives you information kind of through
the characters because they're younger kids.
They're around the age of the supposed readers
of the book. So they're kind of a little bit
foggy on their information and they don't remember
every god or they'll find some way to kind of
tell you who each person is and they kind of
recap. So even if you start off not knowing that
you're in a series and you start off with this
book he kind of updates you a little bit on what
happened which is nice it's kind of the the marvel
method of writing like this is your first book
into the serie series so we kind of have some
uh looking back into the stories that came before
but i i think they're a great and fun read you
get some uh weird hokey kind of stuff going on
there which i really enjoy and appreciate in
a novel. I don't like novels that take themselves
too too seriously and these definitely don't.
The one girl has a weapon, she has cornucopia,
so she has that like giant thing that you see
in the middle of a Thanksgiving table that looks
like a giant horn of some sort. Sounds delicious.
I thought you meant the tennis player, the old
Russian tennis player. No, Anna Kornikova, no,
not the Russian. Anna Kornikova. Yeah, she just
bashes people with a blonde girl. But no, it's
even better than that. It's that large horn thing
that people usually use as a centerpiece at a
Thanksgiving table. And she uses it and it blows
out food at people, which is kind of amusing.
So it's got fun stuff like that in there. If
you're older like I am, it's not just for little
kids. I think older people can get amusement
out of it too. Is it akin to maybe not the later
Harry Potter movies that get a little darker
but maybe the first few novels? There are quite
a few deaths that take place and the places that
they go through like Targaryen is kind of horrific.
I don't think the way that Rickory or Dan explains
it or describes it is that horrific to me but
maybe for a younger child it might be a little
bit scary but I didn't think it was too bad.
And you've got creatures like giants and scary
gods. So there might be that in there, but I
don't think it's too bad. But there's definitely
some deaths going on. A couple characters have
died. This may be a spoiler, so maybe skip ahead
a couple seconds, but there is even the social
issue. which I don't think it's much of a social
issue, I think it's fine. But there is a character
that comes out as being gay. So I thought that
was quite interesting to see in a children's
book. With all this Greek culture, my one question
is, is where are Jesse Stamos and the Rippers?
Are they a part of this? No, they are not. I'm
sorry to say nobody has awesome mullets. There's
a lot of people with Greek culture. They don't
really advertise in yogurt commercials. I guess
that's true. I guess when you think Greek culture,
you don't necessarily have to go to full house.
I mean, not the best example, but you know. So
what have you been up to, Dan? What's this movie
that you've been watching this time around? Of
course, I've been watching a movie. That's all
I do. I've watched a few but the one I'm gonna
pick out was the one it's called The Double.
It's currently available on demand directed by
Richie Odey or I'm not sure. So you've watched
a whole bunch of double mint gum commercials?
Kind of, kind of. The director, if you saw the
movie The Watch, he is actually an actor, he's
an actor too, he's in that, he's the... one british
guy that has glasses he's the one guy you probably
don't recognize that's in that movie he also
came up with this movie called submarine which
i highly recommend which is currently on stream
no it is not actually no no we apparently all
don't live in a yellow submarine i don't know
but the idea of the double is jesse eisenberg
plays this character called james simon and it's
kind of like in a futuristic Orwellian type of
world. I'm not going to go into great detail.
You're calling me cultured with the little kid
demigod book and you're saying it's kind of Orwellian.
Well, you know. Who's more cultured here, Dan?
Come on. Well, it is. I mean, it's Jesse Eisenberg,
so it's not like it's that cultured, let's be
honest. I'm not going to go into great detail
because I did have a review on geekhatsradio
.com. It was also on the In Session Film Podcast,
so it should be up. in a few days if not already
by the time this drops where we discuss it but
the basic idea is that uh the basic idea is that
Jesse Eisenberg plays James Simon this kind of
character that is going through life the world
he lives in is like the future envisioned by
the past it's like I mentioned Orwellian 1984
-ish but the computers are really big and bulky
it's almost steampunkish I really love the set
design it's one of the best like unique films
I've seen in quite a while uh I just I kind of
just wanted to Visit this world and kind of enjoy
it though. It's very Void of joy. It's very gray
mundane. There's not much color in it whatsoever
and what happens is another character appears
called Simon James that looks just like Jesse
Eisenberg and it's you know exactly him and it
kind of a dynamic rose between the two characters
Oh, no one else really notices the similarities
between them and they kind of form a friendship
and then eventually a rivalry and whatnot. And
there's obviously interpretation there about
the two characters and what's actually going
on. But I think it's a really interesting kind
of thriller in a way. It has a very sharp sense
of humor. If you're a fan of Wes Anderson or
Terry Gilliam, who in that sense of humor, that's
kind of British in a sense where it's dry and
not very overt. It's very subtle. I think you'll
enjoy it. But it does get into some very thick
themes and uh gets into like identity and the
way we view ourselves and i didn't really enjoy
it i do think it kind of gets lost within itself
at time just because of everything that's going
on but i was really impressed with jesse eisenberg
i know a lot of people put him in the category
of this guy who plays the same role all the time
but he in this he's not that at all he kind of
plays his normal self with the one character
but you really see that's more there is him in
order to play a different character that's completely
different, but not in the obvious way. So I was
impressed by his performance. Honestly, one of
the best of his career, just in all the different
hats he has to wear. So it has me kind of excited
for him playing Superman, not Superman, but Lex
Luthor in the upcoming movie. I was going to
ask you that, do you think this kind of speaks
to his abilities to portray Lex Luthor at all?
A little bit. Like the one character he's playing
is very maniacal and He can come off as charismatic
but also kind of a jerk and kind of douchebag
ish In a way, so I do kind of wonder like you
can kind of see a little bit of What he'll do
with lex luther. It's not necessarily the His
performance in the social network, but it has
elements of that but he's a little bit more He
has a presence to him that you really don't associate
with eisenberg is right but uh behind that you
really know that he's really just putting on
a face and he's really a jerk underneath so i
think it does it does fold well for him as as
that character but if he can shave off his hair
and still do it then he's good what do you think
so lex luther's a jerk maybe it depends are you
want you you don't like superman so for you he's
probably a hero right i would think so yes he
is kind of a hero in that red sun story Well,
I did purchase that. I'm going to have to get
time in here to read that, but I think we're
going to save that for another episode, I believe.
We'll get to that and see if we can finally make
you into Superman fan. We'll beat you down long
enough to kind of force you into it. Talk about
Orwellian. Maybe we'll just like do the thing
they do in Clockwork Orange where they tie your
eyes open so you just have to keep watching Superman
stuff over and over again. Oh, God. It's like
a living hell. Yeah. Exactly. I like robot chicken.
Can I watch robot chicken instead? So, Dan, I
wanted to ask you, for those of us that are far
less cultured, what exactly is Orwellian? Orwellian
is, think of, if you ever, 1984 is a good example.
You know the, ever see that Apple commercial?
Where it's very, it's like, the world is, it's
a totalitarian state where Everyone has a specific
job. You almost feel like you're always being
watched. There's a lack of identity. There's
no personal expression really. You're kind of
stuck in this role and it's almost like you're
a part of a machine. You're not an individual.
That's the way you work every day. Exactly. That's
usually the thing. 1984 is usually what you go
to where it's just like you're... You have the
big brother always over you there's necessarily
not that either zone like big brother per se
but there is This character that like people
try to impress who's like kind of the leader
of this company they work for so that's kind
of what I mean by when I say Orwellian So so
it's actually coming true with our podcast since
they took took away half of our other episode
Hopefully, this doesn't also disappear, because
then I think we will really have discovered a
conspiracy. Yeah, we don't need no thought control.
But besides that, what I've also been watching,
and I think this is probably the most cultured
thing you can experience in the last few weeks,
and that of course is the trailer for Guardians
of the Galaxy, or the second trailer for Guardians
of the Galaxy. Nice very cultured. Yeah, I mean
you cannot get more sophisticated than a talking
tree or a raccoon with a rocket launcher I mean
I was sipping tea with my little pinky finger
out while watching this trailer. Yeah, it's I
was cutting a Snickers bar with a fork and knife
I Was speaking with a British accent while watching
this trailer That was more Swedish than British,
I'm sorry. I just got done with my polo match
before I was able to watch it, so I was a little
bit, you know, tired. So yeah, we had a thing
going there and I just ruined it, and anyways.
But yeah, the second trailer dropped. We got
a little bit more footage of this time around,
a little bit more action. We had a lot of comedy
last time, and there's still a good bit here.
Most notably, I think we get that Stefan is we
finally hear the voice of Rocket Raccoon, Bradley
Cooper, as well as Groot, played by Vin Diesel.
Small other tidbits like we see the base of the
Guardians of the Galaxy, which is a head of,
what are those creatures called Chuck? Celestial.
Yeah, which is a head of a celestial, which I
thought was pretty awesome because that kind
of means there's celestials in the Marvel Cinematic
Universe. Yeah, I was going to mention that too.
That's really cool that they're throwing that
in there. But I guess we'll start with you, Chuck,
because last time we talked about the Guardians
of the Galaxy trailer, I think you're probably
the most hesitant on it. So what did you think
of this new one? Well, I definitely like this
one a lot better. It shows a lot more action.
I think some people, maybe even you, are making
the comparison that it's sort of like Star Wars
meets Avengers type of thing. You definitely
get that idea a little bit more here. And like
you mentioned with the. The voice actors with
Bradley Cooper as Rocky Raccoon and Vin Diesel
as Groot. I could hear the Vin Diesel in Groot,
but couldn't really tell that was Bradley Cooper
as Rocky Raccoon, so that was pretty impressive
with his voice talent there. But yeah, it looks
a lot better this time around for me. I'm still
really disappointed in their music choices, though.
To me, it just does not fit their... What they're
trying to show like I just I don't get their
music choices for the trailer, but I mean, whatever
that's a personal thing, but but yeah, it definitely
looks a lot more exciting to me and I'm definitely
getting psyched for that. Greg, what did you
think? I. I don't think the music is out of place.
I think it kind of fits with Chris Pratt's character
of Star -Lord. He's kind of Earthling who's wacky
and out there goofing around kind of thief out
there in space. So he's kind of out of place
for the whole situation. So I think that kind
of fits. And I think the other issue that you
had with the Chuck was Vin Diesel's voice, which
I didn't. Yeah, you could tell it was Vin Diesel's
voice, but I think that works with the giant
bulky tree. Yeah, I didn't necessarily say it
was a bad thing. I could definitely tell that
it's him. But other than that, I thought this
was just kind of more of the same for me as the
first trailer. It didn't really change my opinion
of it. I still really want to see this movie.
think it's going to be really good. I kind of
have my hopes up and I hope that the movie meets
those hopes. Yeah, one thing I did like seeing
we got a little bit more of wrote in the accuser
who looks I thought looks pretty cool. It looks
just like the comics. Yeah, absolutely. I wasn't
sure like what the main conflict in this movie
was going to be, but it does appear like his
his forces are trying to take out some sort of
planet or something like that. Glenn Close also
shows up as Nova Prime, so I don't think she'll
have a huge role. But yeah, it is a little bit
more of the same. I do wonder though, when we
saw this trailer, when we went to go see Captain
America, we could tell a lot of people I think
who aren't really familiar with the property
or Marvel, I got the sense that they didn't really
like it. It was a little bit too weird. So I
wonder if this will be like this year's Pacific
Rim where... It's huge for a certain community.
A lot of people love it. But for a lot of people,
they just kind of, you know, don't know what
to think of it. So they don't go see it. I mean,
it's marvelous what a poly make money. And I'm
sure they didn't spend a huge amount of money
on it because they know how to pinch pennies
over there in that studio. But I did like it
like we I did like the last trailer I was surprised
by a few of the things like I mentioned mostly
the the celestial head which I was like That's
awesome. So I wonder if that means cosmos the
you know, the dog astronaut is gonna be in it
Which would be pretty cool if that happened.
I I mean, I think they make mention of nowhere
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they showed in the trailer
too. I don't know if you saw that I'm not too
too up on my space Marvel stuff to notice things
like the celestial so Yeah, the bass is cool.
Cosmos, I would actually prefer if they left
him out. That was kind of weird to me. Well,
I guess we'll see. It'll be hard to pull off,
but they also have a talking raccoon, so I don't
know how they're going to do that. I don't know.
It looks a lot of fun. It looks like a really
old school, almost cheesiness with a classic
70s sci -fi. But my only question really is,
will it sell to the general audience? And I was
thinking they would try to make that sell more
with the second trailer. And it doesn't seem
like they're doing that. I think they know what
they're going for. I just wonder if it's going
to translate to a lot of people. Because I do
think a lot of people just, it might be going
too far. So yeah, like I have some. Some people
that I try to sell the Marvel brand to every
now and then I'll refer to them as my other friends
But I mean I like to promote the New movies and
shows and coming out and everything and especially
the Marvel ones and a lot of the ones that I
talked to you about this They're like Alex really
stupid like I don't understand that like, you
know just for for the layman I guess it doesn't
seem like it's really Peaking their interest
so far. Yeah Maybe I mean I guess if they made
Thor work, maybe they could this will also work
I mean Thor made a more money than the first
Captain America surprisingly enough. So I don't
know They know how to market and they have Disney's
money behind them So I think when you have that
Marvel label people are I think are just inclined
to go so we'll see Yeah, but we're gonna take
a little bit of a break here and we come back
We'll be talking about something. We all got
to see one of the summers biggest hit so far
this year, Godzilla. We'll see you in a bit.
Godzilla! Godzilla! Completely racist. Yeah,
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that people like to hear us talk about the same
movie on occasion or watch the same thing or
what have you and that luckily Happened again
today as we all got to check out one of the biggest
hits of the summer so far a movie that I don't
know about you guys But I was highly anticipating
and it's movie we actually talked about the trailer
way back when it's finally out now And that is
Godzilla can't believe we've been having a podcast
long enough that the trailers of the movies We
started talking about her now out. It's so weird
I don't think any of our predictions came true
though for the what we thought the movie was
going to be like I don't think any of those predictions
came came through We'll get to that. I think
a few did I think mostly with the Or maybe not
completely true, but I think we were on the right
track in a few areas, but I'm curious to hear
I know there's been a lot of Different opinions
on Godzilla even on this network Occasionally
regarding, you know the quality of it what you
liked what you didn't like So I guess Greg I'll
start with you I'm curious to think as you walked
out of the theater as you left You know or what
you're thinking on now. Did you enjoy your time
there? We know what your overall general thoughts
on goes it on Godzilla my thoughts were I'm going
and watched a monster movie did i i truly think
it was a monster movie that i wanted to see not
really was it enjoyable yes i just wanted to
see a lot more monsters but i wanted to see a
lot more godzilla and i wanted to see him fighting
and taking things down and destroying shit that's
my main goal in in one of these monster godzilla
movies Kind of like I guess Pacific Rim I thought
was better because I got to see more of those
battles. It was good from a standpoint that you
did get a lot of human melodrama and you got
a whole bunch of dealing with relationships between
father and son and son and his new family. So
you got a lot of that stuff in there. but I felt
like there were parts that could have been taken
out. Now that I'm looking for them, I can't really
find them in my head, but I didn't, I felt we
shouldn't have been so focused on that family
and we should be more focused on Godzilla, but
I think that's a fault because of trying to get
a little bit of Godzilla's origin story in there
because we haven't seen Godzilla in how many
years in the real world here. I think it's gotta
be at least 20. Well, there were some lesser,
not lesser, non -American versions of it. I think
2000, 2004. Okay, yeah. We had the Godzilla one
here, but I think that one was like 15 years
or something. I think they had sort of a... Think
there's sort of a crappy one come out and like
2010 or 2011 Maybe even something like that something
like more that were more akin to like the old
style with a guy still in the suit type of stuff
But this is like the first big budget one that
we got since you know Matthew Broderick decided
to try to hunt down Godzilla and it this one
was was definitely better than that and I I think
this one was a good placeholder for the for the
time being until we see what they they do with
They've now said that there there is going to
be a sequel to this Godzilla movie. So yeah,
I mean it's made tons of money and then interesting
enough it costs like I'm using spider -man to
cost like I don't forget how many million dollars
this one was only like nearly half the budget
or a little bit maybe not half but like 60 %
of the budget Of amazing spider -man 2 and that
to me just boggles my mind because I would think
they'd be near the same but I guess I guess not
Well, it's not like they showed godzilla or the
monsters that much stuff. It's true I just think
this movie looks so much better than amazing
spider -man 2. I don't want to give away spoilers,
but my favorite part was uh, definitely the uh
triumphant ending I think you can nickname that
down the hatch. Is that what is that what you
think? adequate thing. Chuck, what are your general
impressions of Godzilla? I liked it a lot. First
and foremost, I absolutely loved the way Godzilla
looked. I thought it was totally badass and it
was absolutely the best looking version in my
opinion. They kind of went back to the roots
a little bit with like the little you know chunkier
version of of his body type in that but The face,
I just thought the face looked really cool. I
don't know if Greg, you commented on that or
something when we were walking out, but I just
thought that looked really awesome. Yeah, that
did look really good. The only concern about
the way he looked is I thought he kind of had
cankles. I thought he was kind of a fat lizard
creature. The bottom of his foot seemed very
rounded, for some reason, in the one shot that
I saw. But other than that, I thought he looked
fricking badass. Yeah, he could use some time
on the elliptical, maybe. Well, I guess you consider
the fact that he's a sea creature, too. His feet
would be fin -like, so they would be kind of
like that. Because I didn't realize, though,
that Godzilla or the name Godzilla is combining
the Japanese words of lizard and whale. So it
kind of makes sense when you look at the kind
of what the way they're going. You're saying
Godzilla completely wrong, Dan. It's Godzilla!
Yeah, I should have said that. Actually, it's
Gojira. G -O -J -I -R -A. Of course they had
to have a moment where the first person to say
it has to be an Asian person saying Godzilla
and they have to say it exactly how they... I
remember the people cracking up in the theater
when they... Yeah, it definitely wasn't made
to be funny, but it definitely was funny. Yeah,
it was unintentionally kind of hilarious and
it's hard not to. We call him Godzilla. Just
the way it kind of stopped and like zoomed in
and it was just like, you know, he had that delayed
pause, you know, and then suddenly we call him
Godzilla and like he kind of sounded like a South
Park character there for a second. It was most
likely a nod, you know, it was probably a little.
Yeah. I think I think they knew what they were
doing there. So, yeah, I mean, I think I'm probably
in the majority here and saying that the movie
starts off a bit slow, trying to set up all the
backstory and everything. I do like what they
did, though, with the earthquake 15 years before
and how they were kind of including some other
say some other threats to humanity, things like
that. And I'm guessing the one was sort of a
nod to Mothra. Yeah, that's what I assumed I
guess like a lot of those characters I can't
give their names or is it Mothra or what's I
don't even know There's like yeah the flying
one Mothra. Okay, I know it's obviously wasn't
the same exact thing, but I to me it was a clear
nod to You know to that monster and another thing
that kind of struck me weird like I Didn't quite
understand where they were going with the With
Godzilla's role in the big picture like with
them going with the fact that he's just this
alpha creature that restores balance and when
it's needed and To me just it didn't really fit.
I don't know like I don't think people would
literally Yeah, I mean, I don't think people
would legitimately jump to that conclusion without
questioning it more, you know Yeah, it's like
giving a random stranger the car the your car
keys like oh, can you watch my car and handing
them your car keys like Why would you do that?
And that's kind of what they did with Godzilla
except on a much larger scale Yeah, there's like
one guy and it's like well, he says that Godzilla
is a good guy. So let's just believe him I I
kind of I mean I guess yeah jumping to that conclusion
was kind of far -fetched in some instances but
I think he also kind of looked at the I think
one indication was like the fossil that seemed
like an older Godzilla which was clearly like
attacked by the the two creatures because it
was like it was killed by them or something like
that and it had I kind of like the idea though
because it you know Godzilla in the past movies
there's been times when he has been the cause
or the cause of destruction or he's been there
to defend humans I like that there was at least
a reasoning to it maybe how they figured it out
was kind of unnecessary it's like yeah you're
just gonna connect these dots and say we'll just
let the monsters kill each other because that's
why But I think maybe if they didn't have to
say it and they just kind of developed that answer,
like allowed it to kind of percolate and we can
see it happen would make more sense. But I think
it allows that the fact that Godzilla is going
after these monsters that have some sort of justification
beyond the fact that we want to see a monster
battle. I think it at least is more legitimate
than like, I don't know, calling your Zord the
find and attack this character. So, yeah, I mean,
I do agree that like having Ken Watanabe just
Decide but I figured there was enough there.
He at least made a hypothesis of why you did
it and I guess I like the more the thematical
Aspect of it of just the idea of you know, this
is nature's taking its course and really in the
story Humans are have very little to do within,
you know the overall impact of nature We're just
kind of there along for the ride. It's really
They're not there to destroy us. We're just kind
of in the way. We're more like insects to them.
So I guess I like it was a giant white blood
cell. Exactly. That's a good point. Yeah, he
is there. He is their defense, I guess. I agree.
That's like I agree. That's a great way to do
it. I just think they should have maybe reached
that conclusion at the end of the movie. Oh,
yeah, I think that would have been, you know,
better served doing it that way instead of reaching
that conclusion in the middle of the movie when
when all of the you know, when everything starts
picking up, they're like, oh, well, I think he's
just this good guy that kind of is going to take
them out, just restore balance. It's like, how
do you like you jump to that right away? Like
I could see, you know, after everything occurred,
after all the events took place, I could see
reaching that conclusion. And then to me, it
would have made a lot more sense. Yeah, he was
like Godzilla's ultimate fanboy that somehow
he knew everything about the creature even though
he never really saw him before. It kind of goes
with that whole adage with writing of you should,
well it's more of a rule I guess, that you should
show people and not tell them because it's not
as acceptable if you tell the information as
opposed to show it. Right, that's a good point.
I do think also, I think Cranston was really
good in the parts he was in. It was a very short
role. Yeah, and I will say once his character
kind of goes away, I'll call it, it loses a little
bit of that luster for the human element to me.
I don't know. Yeah, his story was much more compelling,
and there was almost like a revenge factor to
it, and it was more thought out, I thought, and
you had a lot of set up there. And then you kind
of just lose it. And then you're kind of just,
okay, now you're focusing on that. But I'm like,
well, I kind of like that story better. Why would
we go back to that one? Because that was much
more interesting. Yeah, I felt like if they focused
on him through the whole movie, it would have
been more interesting. Yeah, definitely. Rather
than his son. Yeah. And part of that is the fact
that Ailentary Johnson, who I like as an actor,
he's been good in things. I thought he was fine
and kick ass. And he was good in this movie Norrborg
where he played John Lennon. But here he is just
so bland. Like I feel like he just doesn't give
any emotion whatsoever. Like I think blinking
was the biggest thing he did besides just besides
just be there somehow with coincidence always
when Godzilla showed up. So I don't know. It's
just, you know, he's got either the best luck
ever or the worst luck ever. I can't tell. Yeah.
I mean, I will say like some of the scenes and
situations they put him in were very intriguing,
like I think maybe in your review, Dan, you might
have mentioned the bridge scene, the train bridge.
Yeah, that was a pretty interesting scene. Like
just there was a moment of tension there. It's
like, you know, the monster walking by. And I
mean, that was really cool stuff like that. But
as far as like, you know, and Godzilla's off
screen, which is for a lot of the movie, kind
of struggles to, I guess, move the story along
a little bit. Yeah. And I overall did enjoy it
and I think a comparison to Pacific Rim is a
good one for a lot of reasons obviously for the
monster aspect but also because Pacific Rim I
think had a lot of glaring issues for sure there
are issues with their characters and with the
acting and whatnot but I was able to look at
look over those because what it does well it
does really well that I can enjoy it for what
it is and similar to Godzilla where there are
I think even more issues within the characters
within the plotting and maybe a little bit Too
much delayed satisfaction. I think the director,
Gareth Edwards, gets a little bit too clever
for his own good at times. But once you kind
of get that action you've been waiting for, I
just thought it was so spectacular that I walked
away overall happy. I mean, I did walk away wanting
more and wishing that we got more of what we
had there. But I just thought the scale of it
just... Kind of just the uniqueness in which
it was able to kind of be reminiscent of the
original Godzilla while still being updated and
at times kind of looked like two people in suits
but not in an unrealistic way just in how the
movement seemed very fluid and Godzilla wasn't
just spulking beasts that couldn't move around.
So they almost had like arms. They mostly looked
like a gigantic professional wrestler at times,
but uh Yeah, I I definitely walked away satisfied
too. I mean like you said you You are going to
want a little bit more. But I mean, I was pretty
much happy with it. And then especially like
the ending, like where you kind of think it's
over and then something else happens. Like I
just I like how they ended it sort of on a high
Greg, do you have anything else you want to do?
I was just wondering if you guys I know you both
liked Godzilla's look I was wondering if you
like the other creatures look in this they work
like we mentioned Chuck you mentioned the one
looks very reminiscent of Mothra or you know
past creatures they look to me I got a very big
sense of like the creatures from the creature
from Cloverfield Just in like their legs and
like how they kind of don't have a defined look
to them. I didn't like them overall They're almost
like scorpion. I don't know they were unique
but almost like I I think the best thing you
don't have something to kind of tie it to it's
almost like they're so Such an anomaly that it's
hard to really have them stick in your head Yeah,
they're not humanoid like Godzilla is basically
still humanoid for the most part like two two
legs two arms You know a head similar to ours.
I did like how they had two different the characters
were the two different other monsters were unique
within their own right like one could fly the
other one was a little bit bigger and that I
did like that dynamic I think that led to a lot
of really cool action sequences and and stuff
like that so I thought the eyes were kind of
weird like yeah that's what I was going for was
with the eyes like it was just glowing orange
and you could see the color kind of going deeper
into their skin It was it was more like a headlight
than an actual pie. Yeah, I didn't understand
like I didn't understand that but I like that
they were kind of looked like they were like
you said based off of kind of like insects but
that the eyes kind of lost me and it kind of
looked more like a technology type of creature
right right little creature itself and also III
I know they were different, one was bigger, but
I still kind of was getting confused in there
every once in a while of which combatant Godzilla
was up against in each moment, because the shots
were kind of in close during the battle, so I
kind of get lost in that and... I really didn't
know like what piece of the creature was coming
at Godzilla or like causing destruction at some
point. So I kind of got confused with that. It
was kind of like the same problem I get in watching
a Transformers movie. I kind of got lost and
all that. Yeah, I did like the fact that they
did keep the camera back enough that you almost
got that perspective of, like I mentioned, like
the old the first Godzilla where you're looking
up at them from the ground up. There were moments
where it was a little bit hard to follow just
because you have such a monster that's such a
large scale that you can only see certain parts
of it. I did like how you get this ash that kind
of covers the ground, so it gives it almost like
a black and white look for a while. Though I
wish at times there were at least a few action
sequences that were in... That were during the
daylight because I just love the look of Godzilla
like when he's in the water And it's all just
like really colorful and you can kind of really
get a good look at what he looks like But once
he gets on the ground, it's always dark out and
especially with the other creatures I feel like
you never really get a picture of them when it's
actually sunny. They're always like a little
bit hidden within the darkness Yeah, I like the
other thing was uh, I liked the a little bit
of a nod to the older versions when he kind of
does the tail whip of the one monster into the
side of the building. Oh, yeah. Which he did
that in a lot of the older films. And that was,
to me, that was like a clear nod to those as
well. I thought that was pretty cool and pretty
well done. And I know you brought this up, Chuck,
after we watched the movie and the idea of good
guy Godzilla. Yeah, the most polite version of
Godzilla we've seen yet. Yeah, like he's getting
attacked at the Golden Gate Bridge. He's just
kind of like, you know, I'm just trying to hang
out here. Like, why do you got to do it? And,
you know, he he he walks away. Yeah, exactly.
He's the bigger lizard and he walks away. He's
swimming and he goes underneath the the aircraft
carriers and stuff so he doesn't sink them. I
mean, that's appreciative, right? But I did like
how they use that for scale where you see like
oh he like it looks it's Godzilla's back and
then you realize it's only one small piece of
him and there's like You know, it's just how
big that creature really is. I think that was
kind of cool. What I want to know is um, I Didn't
the Scarlet Witch take him out? Yeah, Elizabeth
Olsen sit right there with a bunch of hex powers
as the Scarlet Witch, you know She could have
she could have been helping those people out
a lot Or monsters. M. Dave, no more monsters.
Maybe that's what happened, and that's why there's
not that much time for monsters. Or you have
Quicksilver too, because Aaron Taylor -Johnson
is also playing Quicksilver. So you have these
two characters that are playing, you know, husband
and wife, going to be brother and sister next
summer. Kind of weird. It seems to be the the
trend because there's a movie coming out called
Fault of Your Stars where it stars Shailen Woodley
and the character that plays her brother in Divergent
is like her boyfriend in Fault of Our Stars so
it's like apparently there's this trend where
you show up on screen with someone who's your
brother and then you have a movie with them where
you're boyfriend and girlfriend so it's just
kind of I don't know what Hollywood's been doing
lately but it seems to be becoming a norm so
I don't know. Well as one person said in a bookstore
that I overheard Incest is best. What bookstore
was this? You were there actually when it was
said, because I remember all of this going, what
the fuck? What bookstore in Tennessee were you
at? It was at Books -a -Million. Well, there
you go. Well, Scranton is like Pencil -tucky,
so there you go. Exactly. But yeah, I mean, like
I said, I did overall, I did like it. I had this
when I did that. article way back one of like
my 30 more anticipated movies and this was up
there I think this was like number eight and
I do on that scale I do think it's a little disappointing
I didn't get the you know the great movie I was
hoping for but I did I didn't enjoy it maybe
my expectations were a little bit too high I'm
hoping in a sequel they can kind of right the
wrongs that they had here and come in something
that's even better next time because I don't
think you really need any of these human characters
next time you could probably have I think human
characters are important As long as they're interesting,
but I think this year they weren't because one
of my favorite movies of all time is Jurassic
Park. And what people don't even realize is the
total amount of time that there are dinosaurs
on screen totals up to about 20 minutes or so.
But I think what's what it's just really well
paced and the characters there maybe aren't the
most aren't really deep, but they're at least
interesting. I think the issue here is that your
most interesting character is on screen for a
very short amount of time and you're stuck with,
you know. Sergeant just show up whenever so I
don't know. Yeah Well, let me get let me ask
you guys this I'm not sure how many of the older
Godzilla movies you've seen but you guys have
any like Favorite moments favorite monsters anything
like that that like kind of pops into your mind
Looking at kaiju history king kong is considered
like a kaiju monster So I do really like the
king kong and even the original when he has like
a fight with some of the dinosaurs I think that's
really great Yeah kaiju tell me another I have
seen I've not seen the original Godzilla. I want
to go back I wanted to go back and rewatch it
before this podcast, but I didn't have the chance
But I did see the American retelling of it, which
is really weird where basically I took the original
and this recut in an American actor in different
scenes. Yeah, I actually liked that one a lot.
I think it was fairly well done for its time.
Oh, yeah. I think it's just kind of weird that
they did that. It's weird. It's just kind of
like, you can kind of tell. It's like, oh, let
me talk to you about what's going on here and
explain this random Japanese couple that's getting
attacked and give you their backstory. and i'm
american uh just it's just kind of weird i did
like that there's a really great moment i think
i like how they kind of slowly introduced godzilla
and there's like a really cool thing with like
a train sequence that i thought was really still
to this day so pretty good for a movie that's
you know 60 years old or so so yeah and if you
look at that one too i had read somewhere and
i don't know if i mentioned this on one of the
previous episodes or not but um i had read somewhere
that they were saying that they updated this
2014 version of Godzilla to be taller to represent
the height of the buildings You know that how
they've grown over the years and the director
was saying that they made him 350 feet tall,
but if you go back to the original American version
They actually say that Godzilla is 400 feet tall
now Yeah, not really sure where that Article
came. Well, what happened was in the original
from 1954 when he was shorter and the reason
why they gave the height higher and was his height
was shorter in the Japanese version because Japanese
buildings weren't as tall because they had to
be aligned with earthquake regulations. So compared
to the American buildings, which are a little
bit higher. So technically, like he's the same
character, they just use different measurements
because of the buildings you're comparing it
to, which is kind of funny. Yeah, but even the
scale though, and a lot of the shots, which a
lot of the shots they took from the original
Japanese version, where he kind of like, he picks
a train up with his hand, which you see his hand
is actually bigger than the 2014 version where
he puts his hand around the cables of the Golden
Gate suspension bridge. To me, it looked like
the scale even looked bigger back then in some
of the shots. Yeah, I'm not sure I have seen
there's like a image going around the internet
where it has like all the different like image
like a scale with all the different Godzilla's
and it says this one's The tallest so I don't
know how exactly that the whole scaling thing
works out exactly So yeah, I don't know, but
he looked awesome. So that I guess that's all
that matters Okay, do you have any any favorite
monsters or moments or anything? I haven't really
watched that much Kaiju films that I do enjoy.
They have it on Netflix. The Mystery Science
Theater 3000 does one with this. I think he's
a turtle -looking creature, and that's pretty
freaking hilarious. I loved watching that one.
I like turtles. I like turtles. And the little
boy in there, the little Asian boy is Freaking
hilarious with how excited he is about everything.
So I think that's kind of fun and funny to watch
but His language When I was a kid I do I watched
like there's like the kid Godzilla which was
So weird. It's just like the little like baby
Godzilla type of creature. It's so awkward Some
guy like a little kid in a suit. It's just weird
to look at when you see pictures of him, but
I remember being a kid and just being like, I
have no idea what's going on, but I cannot stop
watching this. Should I just take a hit of acid?
What the hell is going on? How do I know what
acid is at the age of eight? Mom, no LSD in my
dinner tomorrow night. Yeah, I haven't seen a
lot of the older Godzilla movies, but one of
my, I guess, interests was kind of the Mechagodzilla.
I always thought that was intriguing. kind of
the mechanical version that they built of like
the same scale. And to me, when I look at it,
it just screams Dragonzord from the Power Rangers.
I mean, it's like literally the same thing. It
shoots missiles out of its fingers and... They
just repurposed the costume. Pretty much. They
just painted it. They have it silver, whereas
the Power Rangers were black and green, but...
Yeah, I always thought that was funny every time
I see it it looks like the dragon sword I'm expecting
some guy to be calling it with a flute or something
Which is a weird thing to call a dinosaur with
it's just kind of like I know it's like this
tough thing. It's like, oh, how are we gonna
bring it out? How about a flute? Yeah Something
like a gong or something. I don't know drum,
but now yeah flute but uh, I just thought that
was cool and then the one that I've seen guess
some parts of was called Godzilla final wars
and They have all these different versions of
Godzilla throughout the years and You kind of
see different versions of Godzilla against each
other Wow, and You get to see the I call it the
real Godzilla, but like the classic Godzilla
look you get to see him tailwhip the 1998 oh
wow Broderick version of Godzilla Right into
the Sydney Opera House Completely owns him. That
was a hilarious moment. I thought that was really
cool. So yeah, those are my some of my favorites
I saw Netflix added a bunch of them. So I have
to have to take a look and see there's such a
huge like history there that I just You know
that I am so unaware of but I know a lot of people
are big fans of it He's actually got his own
star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame there that's
be a really big star yeah yeah i think they did
it to commemorate his 50th anniversary or something
whenever and they added that on there but yeah
lots of uh lots of cultural influence there oh
yeah but even the studio like toho or whatever
the original studio like for a while there they
were like suing people left and right for using
things that were too closely resembling godzilla
like commercials and things they were like suing
the pants off everybody Nice nice. All right.
But yeah, so it seems like overall we all had
somewhat of issues with it But I think we all
kind of walked away at least happy looking forward
to the next one Even though when we always do
reviews, they sound really negative. They actually
aren't that bad Well, I think sometimes with
a movie what it like the negative things are
just either more telling or just more interesting
to talk about so But I think we talked about
a decent amount of positives. Like I said, I
just I think the destruction is pretty incredible
Yeah at the end just like that last sequence
is just wow just that's that's how you do a monster
movie So but yeah in like monster exactly like
Chuck mentioned my written review is up on the
site at key cash radio comms You can also check
it out there, but we like to end each episode
with a letter and I did read this letter last
weekend, but last episode but of course we lost
it. So I'm going to do it again because it's
important and it's within the subject we've been
talking about and that is movies and we are in
the thick of the summer movie season and within
that season you get people who let's just say
don't normally go to the movie so maybe they
aren't aware of the proper etiquette when going.
So I wrote this letter that I think it will hopefully
benefit us all so here it goes. Dear potential
moviegoers I understand that you may not go to
the movies on a regular. With this lack of experience
comes a lack of understanding of what the proper
etiquette is. Well, don't worry, I'm here to
help. If you follow my simple rules, I guarantee
you that you and the rest of your people in your
theater will have a great time at the movies.
Let's start with an easy one, your phone. People
love their phones, but people also love being
able to watch a movie without the gigantic glare
of the mini sun you call a phone in their face.
Your Facebook status, game of Angry Birds, or
sexting message can wait until the movie is over.
Now, I'm a fan of rift tracks and director commentaries,
but you didn't make the movie nor were you on
Mystery Science Theater 3000, so I don't need
your input or your sad jokes that are only funny
to you and your friends. Be like a normal person
and do that stuff on a podcast. Kids are a future,
but this movie is our present. Now, no one is
saying, don't bring kids. Childhood is the perfect
time to become transfixed by the theater experience.
But it is not the time to be emotionally scarred
for life. Maybe hold off on bringing your six
-year -old to Texas Chainsaw Massacre 4. You
may not care, but I can't get into a movie where
I'm witnessing someone being traumatized for
life right in front of me. Besides that, if your
kid isn't able to lift their head yet, maybe
the close quarters of an extremely loud theater
isn't the right place for them. If your child
was younger than the new movie you're watching,
let's give it some time before you bring them
to the theater. We all know the price of food
at theater is expensive. It's how they make their
money. How about we don't complain to the 50
-year -old behind the counter about how much
things cost, or try to haggle them down as if
it's some sort of bargain hunt? Surprisingly,
that kid who isn't old enough to get into a R
-rated movie doesn't have much say in the price
of concessions. And if it bothers you that much,
don't buy them. Sneak them in like a true American,
or, you know, wait until the movie's over. If
you cannot go three hours without stuffing your
face, that's on you. It all comes down to one
simple rule. Have considerations for other people.
Crazy how something simple can be overlooked.
The movie theater is not your living room, nor
your kitchen, nor your bathroom, nor your bedroom,
unless you're alone in the theater, then have
at it. Seems simple enough, right? So let's go
to the movies and have ourselves a treat. A treat
of a movie not ruined by obnoxious teenagers,
crying babies, or old Florida people with itchy
trigger fingers. Sincerely, Dan. Nicely put,
nicely put. We did see it when this one of those
kids that was not as old as the movie. Yes. There
was a little tiny girl at the Godzilla showing.
Yeah, just bad parenting. Just a little traumatizing
350 foot tall monster. I know. I guess Godzilla
isn't the worst movie I've seen kids too, but
I went to see the Evil Dead, the remake last
year, and they were like... A mom with like eight
nine -year -old kids and like that movie is so
brutal like I can't watch it as an adult How
is this kid gonna watch it? The original had
a girl getting raped by a plant Yeah, and that
kind of happens in the second one. So I like
don't mommy. Why is that plant raping that girl?
It's parent advisory for a reason. It's not necessarily
meaning that just because you're there, it's
going to be okay. It means maybe it's not suitable
for the person. But I mean, I don't even know
some theaters that don't allow kids in just 17
year old or two already movies no matter what.
Even the parents aren't there because, you know,
sometimes the movie theater has to parent when
the parent can't. So. Yeah, and people wonder
why our society is so effed up and why we have
all these problems with violence and stuff. Yeah.
Yeah Exactly. Exactly. You know what I hate too
is I would add to your letter as an addendum
would be people that crunch their popcorn really
freaking loud during the movie. Oh Yeah, that's
a good point. That's super annoying. Yeah, yeah
I like nachos. I like nachos, but I don't think
they're good theater food because they're just
too loud for the theater Yeah, you know there
should be like pretzels or soft food pop and
then people who just like stuff their face with
a can full out a handful of popcorn just kind
of Rattle the bag every second I I can never
eat popcorn because I feel like I'll be eating
it for like the right like four days after that
because it's always like stuck in your teeth
and it just It's a snack that keeps on giving.
All right, anything else before we bring this
episode to a close? We've had enough monster
mania for this episode. Yeah, if you'd like to
get in contact with us There's a number of ways
you can email us at feedback at geocastradio
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Twitter at movie revolt and you can update or
you can comment on the episode post at geocastradio
.com All right, so that will be it for this week.
Make sure to join us next week, same time, same
podcast feed, same network. But for now, this
has been Chuck. This has been Greg, or Kajira!
And this has been Dan, and we've been talking
in circles. We'll see you next week. I will say
doing that by myself was a little weird last
for the first episode. I'm surprised they didn't
have the stereotypical scene of a bunch of Asian
people running away from Godzilla. I think it
was kind of funny though when they go into the
city, of course they're showing all of little
China or whatever. Little Tokyo. It's funny too,
I was talking to a couple of guys at work today
about the movie. Oddly enough, we have a guy
at work that his last name is Zilla. Nice. And
he was mad that he never got any royalties from
this whole franchise or anything. They took my
name. Now I didn't get anything from that. Zilla.
Interesting. It's Frank Zilla! What? Everybody
runs away from him in the office. All the Asian
people at work run away from him. What? I knew
a kid with the last name Dragon, so that'd be
kind of weird if they were both in the same office
and they would just always fight each other.
Dragon and Zilla fighting again. Really awkward
fighting. They both have stubby little arms.
Just kind of pushing each other over towards
like, you know, pushing them into cardboard boxes
and stuff. They live in a box warehouse. What
a war, roaring towards one another and then running
towards each other. Why do you make really weird
noises when you fight? The one dude spit in the
other guy's throat. Oh god. He opened his mouth
and spit right in. That does not translate to
human that well at all. He's a spitter. Why is
it all blue like that? Gross. Oh, he had a Gatorade
beforehand. Oh, he's been blowing his mind. Whatever.
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