Internet Reactions to Superhero Movies and Casting

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the podcast that keeps on keeping on. So how's

the week been going for all you guys? Pretty

good, pretty good. Well, I called it a date.

The girl that I went on it with did not call

it a date, but it went pretty well. We went bowling

and did some mini golfing, which they now have

at our bowling place. Really? Question, did you

let her win or did you win? I don't think there

was any possible way to skew it nicely. She was

hitting the ball extremely hard. I was ducking

behind these little clam. clam uh uh statues

that they had in it because it was glow in the

dark and it was ocean themed so i was hiding

behind clams and the balls were just flying all

over the place take that as you you might interesting

interesting so yeah i was gonna say hopefully

it was indoors not outdoors but they they took

out all the pool tables at that place now so

oh yeah kind of sad about that that's depressing

Yeah, we had a lot of fun up that that pool.

Yeah. Yeah, what a good memories billiards. I

should say what's the difference between bull

pool and billiards? Well, I didn't want anybody

thinking we were like swimming there so true

true like bowling and then you go over and take

a dip in the pool or something or People so like

falling all over the place in the lanes, but

that would be awesome now. Oh, yeah some pool

bowling Come on now, but how about you check

out your weakman going? I'm pretty good. Can't

complain too much We did get a pretty big snowstorm,

so that kind of sucked. Had to shovel out from

that. We're still able to make it to the comic

store today, so. Nice. You know, it's not going

to stop me. Any good deals? Yeah, definitely.

I'm actually going to be talking about that later.

OK, cool. But got some cool stuff. Yeah, my week's

going pretty well. I actually started, I need

to get my butt in shape big time, because hopefully

we'll be doing a marathon. October that I want

to do last year, but it ended up not working

But anyways, so I got a personal trainer to kind

of push myself a little bit for it further and

He's kicking the crap out of me literally and

physical He's not one of those like rah rah grr

type of personal trainers that's yelling me at

or anything like that But uh, they can we do

I don't they're called lunges which are the worst

exercises ever because they really are That gives

Kim Kardashian her ass though. Well, there you

go. I'm pretty sure she was born that way, but

But yeah, I did some of these calfs exercises

and I've killing me so I've been walking around

like really awkwardly all day and At my work

we had a group interview thing today and I was

like facilitating it I'm like these people think

I'm probably the weirdest person in the world

because I'm like Walking like I'm a saddle sword

because I just can't move very well So it was

interesting to say the least but uh is your trainer

Richard Simmons You know, I wish. It's Wisher

Simmons Jr. Sweating to the 80s. It's actually

Schwarzenegger with a wig on. And a ping -pong

paddle. Yes. Nice. It's actually Fring Stallone

because he's got nothing else to do. For those

joining us for the first time this is talking

in circles. We're a podcast a little bit about

everything today We'll be discussing what we've

been up to and then for our second segment We

have a special little taking it too far segment

that we're trying for the first time We'll be

picking out some of the biggest news stories

happening around the world of the web and discussing

if the internet's taking it too far with the

praise With the love with the craziness, you

know Internet might get a little emotional at

times. It may happen just in case but we also

might take it too far to Yes, that is occasionally

that will be me. I will be doing that Alright,

so we're just gonna kind of get into what we've

been watching listening to all that good stuff

the past week Chuck I guess I'll start with you

since you kind of hinted at it already Sounds

like you've been reading a few stuff. Is that

correct? I've been trying to read I've basically

been buying I I did get to the comic book store

today and scored some some pretty cool deals.

I got, I picked up Spider -Man Masks, which is

like some early McFarlane stuff from like 1991.

Some of the issues from that line. Also picked

up Avengers Red Zone, which I've been wanting

to read for a long time actually. Did they score

any touchdowns? Yes, they are. This one actually,

it's been on my list for a while. It sounds really

cool. It's kind of about like, I guess like a

chemical. Agent is released in the air over Mount

Rushmore and the Avengers have to like determine

if it's like a terrorist attack or something

and I cannot wait to get into that one because

sounds really interesting and also the guys from

aim in there they've got the little beekeeper

hat and like they can radioactive scrubs and

No, it's like a biohazard suit that they were

like 24 7 is like the spoiler that you find out

There's really just Lincoln sneezed and that's

the biohazard. That's been waste in the air Well,

it's right Dan. I think it's something else.

I think the John Wilkes Booth Memorial Yeah,

that was a bad idea. I don't know why they built

that right now Right behind them too, but that's

written by Geoff Johns. Oh really pretty Pretty

excited about that. I mean, I've been looking

for it for a while and obviously I could have

bought it online, but you know, it's the thrill

of the chase. So I was pretty excited that I

found it today and also, you know, getting it

for seven bucks, not a bad deal. Nice, nice.

Dave has a lot of nice deals down there. Yeah,

I mean, I think Marvel's trying to clear out

their warehouses a little bit and I'm definitely

taking advantage of it right now So I've also

got the Avengers Corvax saga Corvette Corvax

saga Stop mixing cars and comics Greg This is

actually from the 70s an older story, but my

comic guy actually said it's one of his favorite

stories of all time Which I was kind of surprised

to hear that made me Pretty glad to pick it up.

So that was only like 10 bucks was that written

by stanley. Um, it's not actually it's uh, That

david michellini guy. Okay shooter mcgavin Yeah,

george perez are piecema is also in there so

pretty cool stuff I'm not sure which one actually

it's still in the shrink wrap. I haven't cracked

it open yet. So It's the guy with the weird teeth,

right? It was in Big Daddy and never mind get

my reference no idea, but I definitely can't

wait to dive into these but it they're gonna

have to wait a while because Honestly, I'm in

the middle of some other stuff. I'm kind of backlogged

at this point with my comics But I'm reading

amazing spider -man origin of the hobgoblin,

which is pretty interesting right now They're

like an individual issue in trade. Yeah, I mean

these are some old issues So I enjoy reading

it in the trade because I mean the pages are

in such better shape and you get to See the colors

and the words a lot better that I have to finish

I also have to get into Batman the long Halloween

Looking forward to that one quite a bit and also

Batman hush, which I heard a lot of good things

about yeah That's quite good. I know some people

had some issue because there's like a character

that's Basically, it's like a retcon that's supposed

to be part of his life or like Batman's life

for such a long time and then but I enjoyed it

it's pretty good and I think I probably enjoy

it you probably enjoy it more because I think

you have more of a knowledge of DC than I I did

and there's definitely a lot of hints to like

past DC stuff that I'm like probably means something

a lot more than I'm realizing Yeah, I mean maybe

a little I'm not like I know a lot more about

Marvel Let's just say that but yeah, I do I get

into DC a little bit That's kind of my reading

order for the next who knows how long because

i just kind of read it whenever i get a chance

but excited to get into that stuff other than

that i haven't watched too much other than some

uh some stuff on youtube i did find because i

was kind of i was looking at some like super

bowl commercials on youtube and stuff and i you

know when you get on youtube like you just get

led in like all these different directions and

you find yourself watching videos that you had

no clue were there so twerking videos Maybe not

that I did find this really hilarious video.

It's actually it's a Van Damme video John Claude

Van Damme doing splits It was basically made

of clips from the fight scenes from his movie

Lionheart I Don't know if you guys are familiar

with Lionheart. Yeah, I am For any for for Greg

and anybody that hasn't seen it. It's like a

This guy that basically like really hard up for

cash to help his family out So he kind of joins

this like underground fighting league and you

mean he didn't go to prostitution first I know

with those legs. I mean come on It could work

wonders So basically he goes, you know, it's

all these different, you know fights all these

different people in these different locations

and you know gets money and stuff and helps out

a family it's I mean, I'm actually premise for

pretty woman. Come on Well, it's also like it's

also kind of the same premise for like every

other Van Damme movie ever It's gonna say like

this quest or like kickbox or Bloodsport. I'm

actually pretty big Van Damme fan I mean the

guy cannot act to save his life, but for some

reason when his movies on the TV, I have to watch

it I just can't look away. I mean, it's like

a trainwreck. Have you ever seen JCVD? Yes, I

have actually. That was interesting. He wasn't

too bad in that. He had some talent. Yeah, that's

true. I mean, I do really enjoy his movies, but

this video in particular is hilarious because

it was all of his fight scenes from Lionheart,

dubbed with the music and sound effects from

the Street Fighter 2 game from 1991. And they

even have the little health bars at the top of

the screen for each fighter. Nice. And then every

time one of the guys gets hit, you know, the

health goes down and it's even got that special

like phrase when Van Dam does his like famous

spin kick. It's hilarious. And when you at the

end of the fight, it says you win and it has

the little headshot graphic with the clever little

sayings under it. You remember those? Yeah. I

mean, it might sound really corny, but I promise

you guys, this thing is hilarious. You got to

see it. I'll put a link in the show notes at

keycastradio .com. So if you want to check it

out, you can check it out there I mean the sound

effects are perfectly synchronized with like

all of the hits and everything and It's ten minutes

long, but I would definitely recommend to watch

it till the end It's like really really creative

and well done really cool stuff. Cool. Cool.

I was cracking up the entire time I'll definitely

have to check that out anything else. Um, yeah,

there was a Continuing with my Van Damme kick,

I found a commercial that he did. It was actually

a commercial for Volvo Trucks and it's called

the Epic Split. Yeah. Yeah. Have you seen this?

Yes, I have. This thing is incredible, too. It

was actually from like last November, I think,

or somewhere around there. Somehow I'm just finding

this masterpiece now. I think it's nominated

for three or four Oscars. at least. But basically

it just starts out with this close up of JCVD

and he's talking about, you know, having ups

and downs in his life and how it's got him to

where he is today. And then he starts talking

about a body crafted to perfection. But then

you soon find out that they're talking about

the truck, not him. And they slowly zoom out

and they start playing this Enya song called

Only Time. And you see these two semi trucks

driving backwards. and Van Damme is standing

one foot on each of the side mirrors of each

truck and the trucks slowly move out and he performs

his you know iconic split atop these moving trucks

and it's it's incredible like it's just funny

because it's just classic Van Damme like it's

it's corny but it's epic at the same time i don't

know it's it's basically meant to be a commercial

for the Volvo Dynamic Steering which you know

that they put on their new trucks now the funny

thing about this is that the song from this commercial

actually cracked the top 100 again because of

this commercial. And it's like 13 years old.

So I thought that was pretty funny. Have you

seen the Chuck Norris parody of that commercial?

Yes, I was just about to bring that up, actually.

Leave it to Chuck Norris to one -up him, basically

doing it on the wings of two airplanes in midair.

And, uh, you know, he's got people standing on

top of his head and everything might've been,

you know, Photoshopped. I'm not sure. Yeah. There

might be a tad bit of CGI there, but the Van

Damme one is actually real. There's another kind

of video about like how they made it and stuff.

And, uh, that's actually pretty interesting because

they show Van Damme talking to the director of

the commercial and he's like, He's like, OK,

so the trucks will be going forward, right? And

the guy's like, no, they're going to be going

backwards. He's like, oh, OK. And he's like,

but if they go too far apart, it could fall down

in between, right? The guy's like, yeah, I guess.

But we have really good drivers. Right then it's

like, wow, Bandam is doing anything for money

right now. It's pretty hilarious. So that whole

prostitution thing might not be that far off,

so. Yeah. Anything else before we let Greg take

us down what he's been doing? Actually, I did

have just a couple of quick news tidbits that

I found for Marvel. Not sure if you guys heard

about these, but just found them I think yesterday

or today. Evangeline Lilly is in talks with Marvel

for a possible lead female role in Ant -Man.

She's from Real Steel. I think she played. Hugh

Jackman's girlfriend or whatever. She was in

Lost as well. Okay. Yeah. I never, I never really

watched that. She's, she was the only thing keeping

me going towards the end of that. She had you

lost. Yeah. In her eyes. But I mean, a lot of

people are speculating, obviously she could be

Janet Van Dyne, AKA the Wasp, but I mean, who

knows where they're going with this movie. It's

way too early to tell, but I think it should

be fun to kind of follow that and see where that

goes. Yeah, that'd be cool. I, I guess. I'd assume

even though Hank Pym is going to be older that

the Wasp won't be. I couldn't see them like getting

Dame Judi Dench to be the Wasp, but you never

know. Yeah, I mean, I mean, it's obviously all

rumors at this point, but I mean, maybe she's

actually going to be going out with Scott Lang.

I mean, who knows? True, true. And then the other

one was that rumors are that Fox will be giving

old Dr. Doom a sex change. What? That's right.

The Hollywood Reporter is claiming that people

over at the brilliant think tank that is Fox

are considering making Doctor Doom a female in

the new Fantasy 4 reboot. Obviously, no decision

has been made yet, but you can imagine the reaction

to that by the fans. Well, didn't they kind of

do that with... I forget the name of it. I think

it was Secret War, where Fury had all the heroes

go over there and they put a woman in charge.

I forget her name at this point. But she was

essentially the female doctor doom Yeah, she's

like something von doom. She was like a relative

like her niece or I don't remember exactly but

yeah, but she turned like a super villain I forget

exactly what happened to her. I think she's dead

or something spoiler alert, but uh Damn it Yeah,

I said it afterwards. I should have said that

first. Sorry everybody I mean I mean, I don't

know I personally I despise the idea I mean I

hate when they do this to like iconic characters,

you know, like sea level characters I don't really

care that much but It kind of reminds me of in

the comics when they made Loki a woman. I was

gonna bring that up Yeah, and it I mean that

just it didn't work for me at all. I don't know

I just hated it, but I guess what for any teenage

boys though? Definitely worked for them. Well,

I kind of like the way they without getting spoilers

away like there ended up being a real reason

that Loki was a woman it wasn't necessarily like

they just changed her and ended up being like

not as it seemed type of thing I don't know if

you've ever ended up keeping up with that series,

but Obviously Loki ended up becoming regular

Loki. But yeah, I followed it for a little bit

but not like really closely But he a little boy

right now too or did that switch back over and

he's he's a man again I have no idea. Yeah, I

don't know either. I'm so out of it. After the

whole being a lady phase, they changed him into

a kid. It was Mrs. Doubtfire, right? Honestly,

it's nothing against female characters either.

I would honestly say the same thing. If they

tried to make Storm or somebody a man, I just

think it's a terrible idea. I do not want to

see the storm costume on a man, sorry. Maybe

on you, Greg. I don't know. I can pull it off.

I've got nice legs. Just need some white hair,

that's all. Can you say the line, you know what

happens to a toe when it gets struck by lightning?

Where's movie line ever? Well the most awkward

yeah of all that happens to everything else That

one line is almost as bad as x -men origins role

of rain not exactly as bad, but it gets close

I guess I don't I mean it does seem kind of odd

like I don't see the point of it per se Why would

they make him make her into a woman? Especially

since I didn't really get dr. Doom right the

first time it's a wait and see for me, but I

would personally against I wouldn't be against

it against it if it's done somewhat cleverly,

but Don't know for me Fox. I feel like they just

they just do things just because to do things

sometimes yeah, and I mean it would be better

if it's actually a different character than dr.

Doom like if they say you know like that story

you mentioned if she's like a niece or Some type

of tie to dr. Doom that would be way better than

just saying well dr. Do some is a woman now You

know like yeah, I mean they could do something

that we'd into dr. Doom or something because

you know, that's I don't know. It does seem kind

of strange. Did you I guess this is a whole different

topic, but like michael b jordan being Human

torch honestly, I don't know him at all. I don't

really know what he was in or anything He was

in fruitful station. He was in the wire. Uh,

he was just in that movie movie that recently

came out called that awkward moment Yeah, that

awkward moment when you don't know who he is

He's actually he's a really great actor. I mean

he was amazing in fruitful station and He was

really good in the wire. And I actually think

he that I kind of get like I think he really

fits that character of Johnny Storm like change

in the race thing. I honestly don't mind. I don't

mind the race thing at all. Like like Michael

Clarke Duncan as Kingpin was brilliant. I thought

that was well, I don't want to say brilliant,

but it was Daredevil was the best thing about

that. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I don't know. I mean,

what I have a bigger problem with is just how

young they're going on this Fantastic Four movie.

Like, I don't know. I'm just not really interested

in this movie at all right now. Like maybe Maybe

a trailer kind of change. I want to see the thing

in a diaper. That's what I want to see Have you

it's slobbering time Well, I never realized that

the ultimate fantastic four because I don't really

I haven't ever read the ultimate fantastic four

But in that they are much younger. So it seems

like that's what they're going towards is more

that version of it Yeah, spoiler. They changed

into zombies spoiler Encapped it this time for

everybody Yeah, I hate to be too critical without

knowing too much but like I I don't like the

ultimate stuff at all But I mean that's just

me so I mean, I really love the ultimates that

line of like the Avengers like that to me is

amazing I don't know if you've ever read that

but like that sold me on that franchise and ultimate

spider -man has been pretty good I never really

like ultimate x -men like that to me just To

me the x -men are we're already like the ultimate

version of the Avengers. So it's just I didn't

really seem like it was necessary Anyways, but

it's about all I got so gregler. What about you?

What are you been up to that name again? I'm

just gonna go son of a bitch every time you say

I guess I'll start off with the non geekier stuff

that everybody probably rolls their eyes when

I talk about it, but uh I watched reality -based

competition show. C 'est pas bon. No. It was

probably just as bad, though. It was ultimate

car build -off. It was essentially... Do you

guys ever watch Junkyard Wars back in the day?

I used to love that show. Yeah, it's like that,

but it's not as good at all. Remember that show?

Not that. Well, it is, because they're taking,

they'll bring in a car and they'll essentially

try and make it something else. And I feel like

that somebody came up with the idea and they're

like, oh yeah, that's great. But they never really

fleshed out. the idea really beyond that. Like

they made a go -kart into a submersible vehicle.

They made like regular sedans into sports cars

or no, it was vans into sports cars and everything.

But like I said, it needed to be developed more.

And I also think they needed more time to build

the cars because they would have Chip Foose come

in to judge the design but there wasn't really

anything to judge there and I felt like it was

something that really wasn't needed or if they

were gonna do it they should give them more time

to actually design something that looks nice

instead of these pieces of shit that they kept

rolling out with. So they're kind of like Toyota?

Kind of. I don't know. But that was that show.

If you're gonna watch something like that I'd

go with anything else but that show because of

all the car shows that i've seen on tv pretty

much every single one is better than this show

but uh then i also watched a documentary doc

watch nice nice big fat doc for you like i'm

liking where this is going so we're spewing a

lot of doc getting a lot of doc all over our

face all right taking it too far Okay, Greg,

turn around and look down. There's the line right

there. No, I'm just kidding. You've crossed now.

Just go ahead. All right. But I watched an art

doc about this artist who does photography, Gregory

Krutzen. The name of the doc was Gregory Krutzen

or Krusen, Brief Encounters. I think you would

really like this one, Dan, because the sensibility

that he has of taking these photos, it's like

A scene in a movie that he has pretty much produced

just this one second out of this movie trying

to tell this entire tale of what's going on in

the scenarios that he is producing. And it's

much higher quality, much more thought process

into this one photograph. as much thought as

goes into an entire movie pretty much and they're

beautiful scenes and everything and you kind

of go through his thought process with them of

how he's coming up with these photos and you

get to you don't really get so much the technical

side it's pretty much the composition of the

photograph that you go through and what he brings

in what his thought processes are but my least

favorite thing about the whole doc was the fact

that uh he would they would show images that

he is taken and i'm trying to get what he is

trying uh trying to take in what he's trying

to purvey through these these photographs and

get what mood he's looking for but they also

have music playing while you're viewing these

images and it just totally takes away from what

he's trying to bring to you because they all

kind of look to Sad to me because I had the music

there and all the music that they were playing

when they showed the images for was all really

sad, slow type of music. So any for every image

that came up and he's like, Oh, this is kind

of a happy image for me. And I'm like, Oh, I'm

getting is just sadness. This song is really

bringing me down. Was it the Sarah Michelle Goughlin

song that they Play during those, uh, you know

society There were no puppies in the pictures

as well. Um, no summertime sadness actually But

yeah, it just kind of took away from What they

were showing and I I think they just needed to

let the the pictures stand for what they are

and not Influence your mood with the music. I

thought that kind of took away from it, but I

thought it was uh better than the the two previous

Art documentaries that I talked about before

So you got much more of his process kind of going

on. Have you have you seen exit through the gift

shop? No, that one's about Banksy, right? No,

I haven't watched that one yet. I have I have

a couple Art docs that I have to get to yet,

but it that's one of the ones on my list, though

I haven't seen the one that you're speaking of

but I do those does sound pretty interesting.

Is that one on Netflix as well? Yeah, all the

things I watch pretty much are on Netflix. But

yeah, it's on there. And I really think you would

like it, Dan, with your love of movies. Because

like I said, it's like one frame of a movie that

all the resources from that movie are put into

this one frame. Nice, nice. Yeah. Got some other

stuff here, too. Trying to finish up the Stephen

King book that I've been reading, but I didn't

get to do it in time. But I think I have enough

where I could... tell you what's going on and

get the mood of Stephen King. It was called Skeleton

Crew and it was a bunch of short stories, some

on the longer side, but some were only like five

pages. And this one included a story that we

mentioned previously about its movie form. It's

called The Mist. Nice, nice. It had a nice sense

of pace pacing in it and he really knew how to

heighten the tension throughout. It wasn't that

much of a stretch thought wise or it was just

basically your monsters attack and everybody's

kind of afraid of the dark kind of situation.

And then there's a bunch of other short stories.

But the thing I really got out of all of his

stories is A lot of people say that Stephen King

just kind of just throws things out there that

are kind of similar, the same. And I could see

where they're getting that. But there's slight

changes to the things. He's not just hitting

one note with each story some. There's one that

was like a modern day mythology. The scariest

story that I think he had was This one, Cain

Rose Up, which was really eerie because he wrote

it in the 80s and it was essentially about a

school shooting and with all the school shootings

going on anymore, I thought that was the scariest

one of all. And it was the most real to life

story that he had in there. So there's real to

life stories. And there's one Paranoid Chance,

which was basically what it said it was. It was

pretty much a poem about this person's thinking,

his paranoid thinking that was kind of eerie.

But there are some stories that he kind of hits

ideas that have kind of been out there in the

mythos of life and literature. But it was still

pretty good. And that was kind of an interesting

comparison to another thing that I found on Netflix.

They have Goosebumps, the old television show

from Nickelodeon based off of the R .L. Stein

books, which I think everybody here has probably

collected. and read all of them at one point

or another and it was interesting contrast. Quite

a few. Goosebumps kind of has a kid's perspective

view of horror stories and it was very relatable

for kids and I just wanted to bring that up because

I thought it was interesting to watch Stephen,

read Stephen King and then go to R .L. Stine

who Stories are goofier but had interesting twists

at the end of the stories and kids sensibility

site that that was kinda neat. Probably a lot

faster read to Well, it was the televisions to

show so I didn't even have to read anything I

just stared mindlessly into my screen. Those

are my favorite types of books Yeah, I remember

we know Dan I remember being back in like fifth

grade and or fourth grade or something like reading

one of those like two hours Those were nice and

short, but they were good. I'm reading those

for Book it like you remember book it back in

the day Yeah, pizza. Yeah, we would read books

and get rewarded with pizza, which is a good

life lesson Think about it. That's why we're

all so fat now Exactly. And that's why I love

pizza. See I kept up the habit of eating pizza,

but the whole book habit not as much see I got

a You turn to pictures with little comic bubbles

That's one thing I do want to do though is I

want to read more the book you're talking about

with Stephen King Greg Is that the same book

that has the story from Stand By Me and Sean

Shacron Depp gender? Is that a different book?

I think it's a different one. I have the book

right here, actually. Do they have different

names from the movies? I don't believe so. I

think they have the same names, but I could be

incorrect if we are. It is the internet, so I'm

sure people will say so. I don't really see any

of that stuff in here. It could be. Because one

of the stories actually I saw... on a Cryptkeeper

movie, it was, what was the name of it? It's

essentially one where they're out on a, it's

just called The Raft, duh, where they're out

on a raft. And there's this big black blob that

kind of attacks them, which is kind of neat.

But that's also on Netflix, I believe. If you've

watched a Cryptkeeper movie type of thing, it's

towards the end of that one. They have a little

short movie about it. All right. If you've been

up to anything else in the past week. Yeah, well

I have one more thing which is probably going

to cause a shit storm. Hate those. Oh yeah. Chuck

and I kind of talked about it in the first episode

and we also talked in the comments about it on

the Geekcast Radio website for the first episode.

I have recently watched Man of Steel. Yeah, so

I'm gonna be really hated upon Maybe we'll get

a lot of comments on this but uh the bullet notes

that I took were I thought it was long It was

boring Overly sentimental like the whole s equals

hope in my mind that equals bullshit Wait hope

or s Equals hope equals bullshit working this

out. Let me work this equation Carry the one

minus. I don't know. I never get a math anyway.

What you're saying. I thought it was overly dramatic.

The crashing through the buildings, though, is

something I have been looking forward to for

a long time in the Superman movies. I was happy

with the I think this is a spoiler alert to happy

with the bold choice of killing Zod. And I think

that should have been Superman killing somebody

should have happened a long time ago. And if

this is the way these movies are going, I think

they are taking Batman down with the ship. With

all the rumors going on for Superman versus Batman

and actually seeing the movie that they're continuing

that off of, my interest is dwindling quickly.

I Batman is the saving grace for DC in my mind

and I they're just taking him down with Superman

and just it's Titanic It's what it's when you

see that because there's actually a lot like

Manisteele had a huge mixed reaction when it

came out Well, I mean a lot of people hated the

whole sod thing a lot of people had a lot of

issues with it Yeah, I know I did when I reviewed

it. I think I get a give it like a three out

of five I guess i had different issues than you

greg i don't know to me superman's always been

a sentimental character so i didn't really have

an issue with that but it was overly sentimental

like and plus going back and forth was getting

to be a little bit too much throughout the whole

movie i like if they wanted to do like that for

the first i don't even want to say like hour

maybe like half hour doing that but that's what

i like about that so long What i like about that

is that we have so many origins now that i felt

it sped up the origin instead of like doing it

like from beginning to end i thought it slowed

it down i don't know i guess i i like broken

storytelling like that which could be why i enjoyed

it a little bit more in some movies it works

fine but for this one it just i it felt like

it extended the movie way too far But Chuckie,

I was cutting you off, so I wanted to give you

- Oh, no, that's okay. I was just gonna say,

you know, Greg might be surprised to know that

I actually had a lot of problems with Man of

Steel 2, but probably for different reasons,

but I did not think too highly of it either.

I have only seen it once, so maybe when I kind

of rewatch it, you know, sometimes when you watch

stuff a second time, you, you know, change your

opinions a little bit, but I had a big problem

with the way they portrayed Jonathan Kent. I

thought he was, like, totally out of character.

Think like you know him just him saying you know

Maybe he should have let the kids in the school

bus die like that's not something that Jonathan

Kent would ever say in my opinion stuff like

that and the whole is odd thing ticked me off

because Superman is not supposed to kill and

you know I thought that I won't get into that

but I thought that actually made him More interesting

than than he has been previously for me. I thought

that made him a little bit more interesting Yeah,

I mean, I guess you could look at it in a way

like it's his first major battle You know, maybe

it's something that he'll learn from like maybe

they'll take that angle I don't know but it gives

him a little bit more of a struggle Mentally,

maybe not. I don't know. Yeah, it might give

him something to struggle with like in the second

movie You know like maybe he feels guilty about

it or something like that i don't know or maybe

you know maybe batman i'll see it as it makes

him a threat because he did that or something

i don't know like it's hard to say cuz i feel

like they wrote themselves into a corner that

really really had no other options like what

do you do just like time up. Being like this

like does odd character because they had no negative

zone to throw him in or whatever But yeah, like

I think too like how good man of steel is going

to be Considered as a lot has a lot of deal with

how good of the next movie is gonna be is there

gonna be anything regarding it? I mean the thing

I didn't like about Superman and that was that

he was so brooding and so just he lacked any

charm or charisma And if you have Superman like

that, like I felt like Superman was very much

like a Batman character He's pretty quiet through

the whole movie honestly and if you have him

going against Batman who's brooding to begin

with there's like their dynamic isn't gonna be

what it isn't gonna be like a Right on edge like

it usually is so I mean I did love the special

effects. They were great I kind of like the the

beginning sequence on Krypton that was you know

kind of cool Never really seen that before my

mom got totally lost when that scene happened.

She was just like We're watching Superman, right?

I'm like, yes, mom, we're watching Superman.

This isn't Superman, though. I'm like, mom, I

had to explain the whole origin story of Superman

over to her because she was just so lost on it.

You probably should have explained it to Zack

Snyder to probably. The other thing that bugged

me was like how when he was fighting Zod, Superman

would get knocked down. It would literally take

him like 10 seconds to get up. I mean, this is

a guy that's been learning to live with his powers

for like 30 years and you know Zod's been here

for 20 minutes and it seems to have mastered

them better because he hit Zod, Zod popped right

back up. Well that's because he was in the army,

Chuck. They teach you that. Obviously they teach

that in the Kryptonian army, apparently, but

I just I didn't like how they did that. It was

kind of dumb already. I mean for free to let

us know what you thought of man of steel I know

there's a lot of comments still out there. You

can actually vote for it on do a little bit of

a segue GCRN is doing the don't vote for that

movie is doing their awards and that has been

nominated for top comic book movie literally

every comic book movies in that because there's

not been a lot 2013 Wolverine was better than

that movie. I would agree a Wolverine surprise

me a great deal Yeah, that to me was a million

times better than I expected. Anything else?

Bring on the comments, internet. Bring on the

comments. Greg's enticing them. It's like a bull

rider. That's not an interesting thing either.

Del Toro. Gizmo? Alrighty then. Bringing it back.

Call back. Gotta love it. I don't have a huge

amount of stuff to talk about. I just wanted

to talk about a quick thing. By the time this

airs, Super Bowl has been on for two weeks or

so. What show that came out after the Super Bowl

is that of Brooklyn nine nine? I don't know if

you guys watch Brooklyn nine nine But it's a

show that I kind of written off wrote off because

I thought it'd be kind of stupid didn't really

interest me that much but we started watching

we started watching it because We ended up catching

the last my wife and I catching the last 15 minutes

or so because we would watch new girl which came

out after it which is a show I highly recommend.

I know people might think it's like some sort

of like Girl relationship show but it's not it's

very hilarious. I like watching zoe this channel's

dead eyes That show is hilarious. I mean it what

makes it great not necessarily zoe de chanel,

but it's the the roommates in that show They're

all really funny. But anyways, it's the brooklyn

99. So we I'm like, well, this is actually kind

of funny So we went back to the start of the

season and started watching it and I really highly

recommend it I love people's pair to scrubs.

I've never seen scrubs, but I feel like it's

a more heightened and more broad version of the

office in a way because a lot of it takes place

in their office of the the precinct a lot of

crazy characters Andy Samberg does Andy Samberg,

but there are a lot of great side characters

as well They're one chief does some of the best

deadpan I've ever seen like he doesn't show any

emotion ever and it's like this running gag,

but it works So well, he's just so brilliant

at it and it's smartly written and I guess actually

Seth MacFarland Help produce it you can kind

of see that because they have a lot of that non

-secret or humor When it's like it's remember

that time and they flash back to it and it's

like that scene But it works. I think even better

in live action for some reason. I don't know

why but it it's really good So for those who

may have written it off, I would say check it

out. It's not on netflix It is on hulu and it's

also a show that you can Pretty much pick up

at any time. It's not like there's a running

storyline or anything like that But uh, Terry

Cruz isn't that too and he's pretty hilarious.

So does he does he do the little chest bobble

thing? He has he has he does a lot of dancing

Ladies check that out. You will throw up. He

does like he's for a guy that big. He just looks

I don't know something about him. She just looks

awkward. I don't know. He's a big dude, but I

don't know He's hilarious though. Yeah, he's

very funny. It's a good show and I'm not gonna

talk a great deal because I'm still finishing

up episode 3 but last week Last episode we talked

about looking forward to 2014 and shows we're

looking forward to and the one I was looking

forward to one of the most was Sherlock season

3 and So far I've seen the first two episodes

of season 3 and there that show is so spoilers.

I'm not gonna give spoilers spoilers They do

not have that on Netflix yet. No, it's on PBS.

So It is season 3. I think it's been the best

season yet Hilarious the last episode season

two was a wedding. I'll just say wedding because

you don't know who's getting married But it involved

the wedding and it was really well done. It's

really hilarious Like I said, Benedict Cumberbatch

is just on point with that character If you've

never checked it out check it out because it's

such a such a great show The production value

is amazing. It's just so much fun to walk Cumberbatch

just has so much fun with that character There's

a great balance of humor and drama and tension.

It's it's pretty amazing. We're finishing up

the last season of episode three but then my

wife fell asleep so we have to go back and watch

that another time so but it's still enjoyable

to watch again though oh yeah yeah definitely

i'd thought about going back and rewatching it

from season one because there's only three episodes

per season 90 minutes each some i've i've done

it multiple times yeah and the the bad part is

it's like usually like two years in between seasons

because But in a cummerbatch and Martin Freeman

are so busy that there's a lot of time in between

so hopefully that doesn't happen again, but you

never know. Martin Freeman should just give up

on the Hobbit. Like everyone else, but he's got

one more movie. Disco Sherlock. He's got one

more movie than he's done. What's really funny

there was I was watching talking about YouTube.

There was a YouTube clip of Manjushrik about

getting lost in YouTube. I kind of got lost in

YouTube and started watching this clip of Brendan

Cumberbatch on Sesame Street with. Like I should

not be watching it, but it was pretty hilarious

He was arch nemesis was there Murray Artie, which

is some puppet or something like that And I don't

know it was just seeing this character that's

on Sherlock and like, you'd know what he's done

on that show Which is not kid -friendly at all

and there's a lot of jokes that are being thrown

that you're like Was Sesame Street always like

this dirty at times? But uh, it's kind of like

when uh, Tom Hiddleston was on Sesame Street

that one was interesting too. Yeah. Yeah, which

I also found when I was on a YouTube tangent

I think Tom Hiddleston and better in a combi

-batch need to do a movie together where they

just both play like villain characters And it

will be the best thing ever. You mean like that

Jaguar ad? Yeah, yeah Mark Strong and Ben Kingsley.

Yeah, that was pretty sweet It just needs to

be a villain movie where it's like two villains

going at it, you know, like oh that'd be awesome

Yeah, nobody take that we're taking that to uh,

hollywood and we're gonna make millions of dollars

off of it. We'll calculate february 2014 We get

a hold of good detailer good delta. Wow, I can't

even say deltoro now again gdt just dropping

all over the place gdt Sounds like a venereal

disease That's true. Both fit into that same

world. The half GDT. Double arm GDT. Rear naked

choke GDT. Anyways, on that note, we'll take

a little bit of break. I think we're taking it

a little bit too far, which gets into our next

segment. We'll be talking about some more news

stories hitting the web and discussing if we

think maybe we'll need to take it a little bit

too far or maybe we're not taking it far enough.

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Because knowing us is half the battle. Alright

and welcome back today we'll be talking about

the internet you know that thing you're listening

to us on right now and how it can kind of possibly

on occasion. Overreact to a few things you know

there's two reaction becomes the internet either

extreme hyperbole or the other hatred for something

seems like no matter what happens there's some

craziness going on and recently some. news story

says hit the web and everyone became in a tizzy

for one reason or another. So we're going to

be discussing those news stories and discussing

if we are taking it too far, either with our

love or our utter hatred of what's going on right

now. And to start things off, we'll be talking

about the recent images that were released for

the upcoming X -Men Days of Future Past. Empire

Magazine had a few covers of the characters that

will be debuting and expanding his future past.

Here's 25 different covers and in that 25 different

covers, certain hatred went towards certain characters.

In particular, the character of that of Quicksilver.

For those that are unaware, Quicksilver is the

son of Magneto and he has the power of speed

in his sister, of course, Scarlet Witch. And

suffice to say, people think he's probably gonna

have a big role in the upcoming movie. Well...

We got our first images of Quicksilver and people

were far not too kind. I'll be posting images

on the website so you can check those out. Suffice

to say, he looks a little bit different. He doesn't

have his lightning bolt on his stomach. He's

got a silver jacket, some crazy sunglasses, a

fanny pack, a fanny pack. So my question is to

you guys, is the internet taking too far with

these images? People are already writing off

the movie saying it's not going to be any good.

Are we taking it too far? I don't think he could

write it off because of how one single character

is dressed. If multiple characters were dressed

horribly, then maybe. But I was writing off the

first one, for the most part, because of the

yellow and blue costumes that they were wearing.

But I watched that movie and I just loved that

one. So I don't think he could write it off because

of that. Do I think his costume is awful? Yes,

because I don't agree with the fanny pack Rob

Lee field action that's going on. How about you,

Chuck? I mean, I guess it's starting off. How

do you feel about the way the character looks?

And do you think people are overreacting? I agree.

I don't think you can write off the whole movie.

But as far as the criticisms of Quicksilver's

looks, I do not think it's taking it too far.

I think these look absolutely terrible. I mean,

all of the other covers that Empire showed, I

think everybody else looked great. This one just

I don't know. It just looked like really punky

or something. I mean, I thought I ran my hair.

Yeah. Well, that's the thing. I mean, the jacket,

the silver jacket is pretty bad. But my biggest

problem is with the hair. I mean, it's just weird.

I don't know. You kind of look like an anime

character. Yeah, like it was just a total turnout

for me. I mean, I hope it's not how he looks

the whole time, like the whole movie. Maybe,

you know, maybe he comes into the fold and he's

kind of a hotshot and then maybe. You know, maybe

his look changes after that. I don't know. Maybe

it's wishful thinking. But and I'm guessing he's

going to fit into the future timeline just based

on his look and also based on what the Walkman

is part of the future time as well. It's retro.

I mean, retro school, right? Well, yeah, he's

he's got a mixer attached mixer slash Walkman

combination going up. I don't know. But I mean,

based on like Fastbender's Magneto, I think is

like way too young to have. Son of that age.

I would think I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong.

Yeah. Yeah, I don't know What what did you guys

think and a lot of people actually also had some

issues with the way? The sentinels look there's

a look of the like original sentinel I assume

and then the future sentinel. How do you guys

think those looked? I thought the original sentinel

looked pretty cool I mean the the face shield

thing is kind of weird, but I mean overall I

was pretty happy with it. They seem to have the

scale fairly accurate. They seem like they're

you know, maybe around 20 feet tall or something.

I think that kept switching in the books, though,

didn't it? The scale of the... Yeah, I don't

know. I mean, you have more of the really old

X -Men than I do, but I think they were pretty

short back then, actually. And then, like, in

the newer stuff, they were kind of taller. And

then the really newer stuff, they're freaking

gigantic, but... Yeah, as tall as one of their

foot, their feet, however you want to say that.

Yeah. And I mean, the future Sentinel looks kind

of weird. I don't know. Like where they're going

with that. I mean, I don't know if it's a shape

changing type of thing I got that like mystique

feel to it like with the scales or something.

Yeah. Yeah, I don't know I don't know where they're

going with that But I mean I'll keep an open

mind but none of them really ruined the the movie

for me or anything I'm still super stoked for

this. So yeah, I mean Greg made a great point

regarding when I came to the x -men First -class

uniforms and people are freaking out because

they didn't look all that great But in context

they work and I think that's part of it, too

It's it's hard to really judge something when

it's out of context on a magazine cover Sometimes

in the one it's placed in the world doesn't seem

as ridiculous Yeah, I know I mean remember when

the first images of the first x -men came out

and they didn't have the uniforms and they were

in black leather and people Hated that and then

then they changed in the comic they went to black

leather and then eventually went back. But uh

I agree. I don't like the look at all. It looks

really unnecessarily ridiculous. But hey, how

big of a character is going to be with everyone

you have in it? I doubt Quickserver is going

to have a huge role. And if it's one bad character,

it's one bad character. And yeah, I would definitely

be happy if Wolverine kind of makes fun of the

way he looks. That'd be fun. You picked the wrong

outfit, kid. By the way, I'd like to disagree

a little bit with Chuck about the original Sentinel

that they have there, the first one, not the

future one. I think that one kind of looks too

flimsy and like they could be defeated in two

seconds. It just kind of looks like a giant version

of the tin robot toys that somebody has made.

doesn't look like it's going to hold up. It doesn't

look beefy enough. It kind of looks like it's

a giant humanoid vacuum cleaner to me. I kind

of am more interested in the future one. Like

Chuck said, it kind of looks like scales. I'm

wondering if it's like some kind of nanotech

kind of situation going on, which I think would

open up a lot of interesting ideas and concepts.

Unless the first one is made of adamantium, that

might solve the structural problem. They still

look like they would tip easily though, they

look very stiff. If you think about it though...

I'm especially in the 90s cartoon the sentinels

were ridiculously easy to beat anyway, so Yeah,

unless they were hiding, you know behind a gigantic

building Anyways along those same lines let's

say like x -men but another classic property

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles still be coming

out with a movie later this year and These are

official images but a lot of images appeared

online of the turtles the way they're going to

be looking in the upcoming movie for those that

aren't aware they're not going to be in suits

people are going to actually be motion captured

and it's done by the same team who did rise of

the planet of the apes that that remake and.

Some people were not very happy with the way

the turtles were looking you know they are much

different than they were in the nineties a little

bit. Different design per se so how do you guys

feel regarding these images regarding the turtles

people taking it too far people freaking out

too much i know a lot of people had given up

on this movie once i heard about it was alien

long time ago but now the images are out so how

do you guys feel. Craig why don't you take this

one first at first i thought it was it was supposed

to be just ninja turtles where they come from

their alien and then it got changed to. It got

changed back, I thought I heard, but then now

all of a sudden it's back to Aliens, I guess,

again, I don't know, but I'm not a big fan of

the new outfits, really. I guess I'm kind of

a traditionalist with it, but... Really don't

like Donatello's grandma glasses that does look

a little bit a little bit stereotypical It's

like we got to make him a nerd give him classes.

Yeah, and they put like tape in the middle I

know it's kind of cuz he has a wider face so

they have to get them attached somehow But then

he's he's also got he's not only has glasses

he has like some high -tech goggles on top of

his head, too Don't know it just looks weird

if you ask me Charlie, how about yourself? I

do think the the hatred is is taking a little

bit too far in this case I think the new the

new look is okay. I mean, it's not great. Just

good I mean I am a little biased along with a

lot of other people my age group because kind

of grew up with the early 90s movie version I

do love those a lot, but I think you kind of

have to Except a slight change. I mean, they

don't look too awful bad I don't think obviously

I would prefer the older look but I'm definitely

ready to you know, give this one a chance I do

hope that they keep the same tone for the most

part like kind of that funny light -hearted Interaction.

I actually think they're gonna change that to

what the comic book used to be a little bit more

adult and everything I was kind of I was kind

of thinking that it looks like they're gonna

go Maybe it's a little bit more serious like

darker Version which is kind of like what like

you said like that's how the comic originally

came out But I was mostly a fan of like the cartoon

and then the movies and that was all like more

late -hearted stuff So I kind of became a fan

of that that side of it as long as they don't

make the girl Ninja Turtle I think we're safe

for now The one that crossed over with the Power

Rangers or whatever Yeah, and she was, there

was a TV show too after the movies where there

was a girl, Ninja Turtle. I watched about one

episode and I had to shut it off. It was awful.

So far we're against - Girl doctor doom and girl

ninja turtle. Yeah our women. Sorry ladies There's

nothing against you really there's none listening.

Let's not be Let's um, anyways, I don't know.

I guess I kind of like the look a little bit

I like the texture of the characters. I liked

how they Some of the differences are a little

bit ridiculous like the glasses but but beyond

that I liked how they were different without

just not just the different colors faces they

have Instead of the first one where it was just

like these uh circles they've got a little bit

more uh definition to their faces to give them

little uh changes i'm trying to actually look

up the photo right now so i have soaked them

up what i have faith in too is like since like

i mentioned this is coming from a team that did

rise with the plan of the apes are doing the

motion capture that to me really impressed me

i trust what they're doing so I was kind of hoping

they would stick with suits like regular suits

because those like the original measures her

movies hold up really well at least the first

one does the suit still look really good the

puppetry is really good so i was going to hope

when they'd stay that route they do motion capture

and motion capture has gained in like quality.

Tremendously over the years, but so what we'll

have to wait and see on that one I just found

the image of the motion capture guys in their

suits It is pretty freaking hilarious because

they've got these weird Backpacks on that are

supposed to be the the shells nice nice nice

The sad part is so the pizza was motion capture

too, so I didn't really even get to eat it I

do like I do like how the shredder looks kind

of yeah Where'd you see the shredder? I did not

see that one at all. I didn't Now I think it

was I don't know the one link I found it was

like at the bottom of the page but the funny

thing is if I mean if you squint it kind of looks

like a transformer I think Michael Bay had a

hand in the shredder costume. I don't know sure

he did he blows his sharp edges when it comes

to things like He just I don't know you like

he's pretty pretty blunt like oh, it's a bad

guy Everything's gonna be a knife edge that there's

costume. I'm just making sure it's obvious, but

it's a Roku sake, but we're gonna call them sound

wave Alrighty, so those are really the appetizers

and this is probably the big meal We might have

a few after this but the big news probably the

biggest news in recent memory in that recent

memory but in the recent few weeks is that of

the casting of Lex Luthor as they call him the

infamous baddie for man of steel and Fitting

we were talking about man of steel earlier again

completing one of those circles and the big rings

complete And better off than the people over

in Russia. They're trying to complete hotels.

Man, that's a funny story in and of itself. Yeah.

Yeah. It's funny because my wife was where this

would go off on a tangent. She's like, why do

they have the Olympics in Russia? I have no idea

who made that decision. When I first heard Sochi,

I thought that was like Japan because it just

sounds like a Japanese name. That's what I thought,

too. I'm like, and we're racist. Anyways, back

to the matter at hand, Jesse Eisenberg has been

cast as Lex Luthor, which came to a shock for

a lot of people. A lot of people were thinking

possibly Brian Cranston, because, you know, he's

bald. Mark Strong, again, another bald actor.

Even people like Joaquin Phoenix were rumored

for the role, but they wouldn't. Jesse Eisenberg,

which to me was not something I was expecting.

A little bit younger than you would normally

expect. He is not really known for a role like

this. As the internet is, this has ignited a

huge amount of fan hatred. Probably equal to

or maybe even more than that of Ben Affleck getting

cast as Batman. So my question is for you guys,

this is the big one here. Are we taking the hatred

of Jesse Eisberg as Lex Luthor too far? Greg

will start with you on this one. Seriously. Yes,

I I care so little about this now Well, that's

good cuz I'm watching that's fine cuz I might

go on a little bit of a tangent about it Well,

let me put it this way Greg knowing that you

didn't like me on a steal in knowing that Jesse

Eisenberg is Lex Luthor Does that make you more

excited or less excited for the sequel? Is it

going to be like his character from Zombieland?

I would probably say it's probably going to be

more like his character from Social Network.

I didn't see Social Network. It's an excellent

movie. I would advise checking it out. Well,

I care so little about Facebook anymore. Yeah.

Anyway, if the movie was like Zombieland, I'd

love that option. But he's neurotic. And not

in a confident Lex Luthor way. I don't know.

I'd have to see him. I haven't really seen him

in a part where he played a character like Lex.

A very domineering character that can take control

and goes out for vendettas. And I haven't seen

him in that kind of role. So I can't really pass

judgment on the poor guy. But I am becoming...

More and more disinterested in the movie since

watching man of steel Looking back and seeing

all the casting news that they have come out

with It just kind of depressed me further after

watching man of steel. So Alrighty. Well Chuck

I know you have and Chuck's for those that aren't

aware Chuck's a pretty big Superman fan power

the biggest out of us three So the world's waiting

with baiting breath. What do you think about

the casting of Jesse iceberg as Lex Luthor? Well,

I'm kind of long sort of along the same lines

as Greg, but it might actually shock you to hear

that. I think the hatred is taking it too far.

My immediate gut reaction when I saw it was no

way. Absolutely not this. I mean, this is terrible,

horrible casting. But, you know, part of me,

you know, I kind of sit back and say, all right,

hold on, let's let's see what he can do. because

once upon a time I was actually very impressed

with Michael Rosenbaum as Lex on Smallville and

in my opinion he was the best portrayal of Lex

Luthor to date actually you know for my money

so I always thought like Gene Hackman and Kevin

Spacey were kind of goofy in that role I don't

know I never really liked them but you know Rosenbaum

was someone that at that time I probably would

not have pegged as a Lex Luthor but after a couple

seasons he was actually like knocking it out

of the park i mean he was absolutely the best

actor on that show in my opinion not tom welling

definitely uh definitely rosenbaum but um i i

say definitely give the guy a chance to grow

in the role i know obviously the physical appearance

is the first thing everyone looks at and i mean

i'm kind of guilty of it too sometimes but it's

not completely fair but that's kind of the reality

you know for the most part especially comic book

movies because We kind of have an idea of what

a character is supposed to look like. Eisenberg

definitely has like a young look to him, even

though he's, believe it or not, he's the same

age as Henry Cavill. They're both 30, which is

weird because I always thought Henry Cavill was

like 45. He just has that. Really? Yeah. He just

has that older look to him to me. I mean, I don't

know, but they're both 30. So I thought that

was kind of weird. But I really don't have a

problem with that. I mean, this is supposed to

be a young Lex Luthor. He's also not going to

be. major character in this movie from what I've

read um he's kind of just beginning they're introducing

him he's just beginning his obsession with Superman

they kind of stated that they wanted to go the

younger route because because of influences like

smallville and saying that they you know started

off young and their relationship kind of grew

you know together as one you know old hands and

right off into the sunset sing kumba it's kind

of like that to make the analogy to like Batman

the Joker that they kind of know each other better

than some of the closest people to them do. So

what I was really concerned about was like, you

know, Eisenberg's ability to like portray this

image of power and control and like intellectual

superiority. And I did see Now You See Me, which

he was in, which was the magician movie. I actually

liked that a lot. That was pretty cool movie.

I did not see Social Network, but I did go back

and look at some clips of it. watched a lot of

YouTube clips with him in it. And I guess what

I found going back is he is actually pretty good

at conveying all of these traits that you would

look for in a Lex, but it's not really in a Lex

Luthor way that we that we know. Like it's kind

of more like a teenager that is just developing

an attitude. You know, he's kind of smug and

arrogant and, you know, he's just kind of first

gathering the gumption to say what he's really

thinking. You know, he doesn't instill the fear

to me. Like we know Lex Luthor is more. Confident

more sure of himself. Everyone else is thinking

is beneath him. He doesn't only put them down

He completely ignores them and he commands attention,

you know, everybody knows he's in control stuff

like that I guess you'd say well Lex wasn't born

that way, you know, he had to kind of evolve

into that person and maybe that's where Eisenberg's

Luther comes in, you know, like this younger

version kind of Becoming the mastermind that

we all know and that's the key question. Can

he transform into that? By the end of this film

or maybe the third film since they're just kind

of introducing now Kind of become that Lex like

they're like people can be afraid of my other

question is will it be rushed the thing about

I mentioned Michael Rosenbaum in smallville he

had several seasons to develop that character

and It got better and better with every season

and you kind of got to a point where you're like

Wow This guy is really cold, you know, and he's

really obsessed with Superman you That extra

time really did a lot for the character. So,

um, I think like if they give him the proper

amount of time to grow in this role and You know

really have him become the true lex in like the

third movie in this in this trilogy I think I

think it'll be really interesting and plus I

think superman's still Growing in this trilogy

too. Like I think he's probably in this sequel

or by the end of it You know, he's probably going

to become more of the truth justice in the american

way type superman that were that were used to

but boring your opinion it is i personally think

it is really engaging and i i love the stuff

that they could do with his character because

i never liked characters that killed because

it's just too easy like that struggle that superman

deals with to do things the right way when no

one else wants to I think that's really interesting

because he's kind of taken the high road he's

taken the road less traveled and it's a lot harder

and I think it's a road he can handle because

not as well as you might think though like it's

it's he really struggles with stuff and I especially

like the stories where it goes into those struggles

that he has I mean and and some of this stuff

Superman, you know growing in this and maybe

you know him and Luther kind of growing their

characters together and they complement each

other By the time they're ready for the third

movie that that would be really interesting and

also you might be able to say that about Ben

Affleck even is he gonna be the Batman we all

know right from the get -go or You know, is he

gonna evolve as a character? So is he gonna be

the batman we want or the batman we deserve I

guess So, I mean, I guess I kind of went on a

little rant there. But um, no it was well spoken.

I know I mean myself and greg I think they don't

have I mean I I do like superman probably even

more than greg does but Don't have a huge fondness

for him like you do truck. I mean, I've read

a few stories I've really gotten into actually

not too long ago finished the earth one superman,

which is a little bit different. I know it's

like A different take on the character, but I

did enjoy it. So I mean, I would agree to that.

I do think we are taking the hatred of the character

a little bit too far when it comes to me and

comic book movies. I like comic books. Don't

get me wrong, but I don't live by the code that

you have to. be in a direct adaptation like I

don't have to play match game like this is the

way it's done in the comics if you want to change

it okay I'll let you have that authority to change

it but give me something interesting or good

in return if you change something and it works

out for the better more power to you like I think

when it came to Raimi spider -man films and doing

the organic spider -shooters and not the mechanical

I think that honestly makes more sense in my

opinion because when it comes to like movie wise

Logic in having him being the super being who

also finds the ability to make these web shooters

I think it may it's more seamless when you do

it with the organic which they've done in the

ultimates and stuff like that So I'm okay with

changing stuff. Give me good reasoning for it

Don't just change things for changing things

like we talked about with when it comes to making

dr. Doom a woman That's having spider -man dance

in the streets. That's perfectly acceptable.

We had a good excuse for that We do not speak

of Spider -Man 3. I always wondered why they

stopped after 2. It was just weird. But yeah,

that's the thing to me is if you're gonna change

it make a good reason and i'll be happy I do

actually have my alternative of who my perfect

lex would be and I can't say yourself chuck No,

I I would be a sexy evil genius, but uh Go back.

Sorry It's a circle. This isn't my top one, but

I do think mark strong would have been a pretty

decent choice um He's not a stranger to any of

the comic book movies or villain roles. That's

pretty much what he gravitates towards. You guys

probably know he played Sinestro in Green Lantern.

He was in Kick Ass and a couple other things.

But actually my true choice for Lex that somebody

I think that would actually rival Rosenbaum is

I think Arnold Voselue. I'm not sure if you guys

know who that is. I got really excited at the

Arnold part and then went totally off track.

He actually is the guy that played the Mummy.

Oh, that guy. All right. Yeah, and Dan might

remember him from 24 or 2, I'm not sure. Okay,

yeah, I do, I think. He was, I don't know, his

name was Marmin or Marwan or something like that,

but he was in quite a few episodes of that. And

he actually, I found it interesting, he did some

voice work for some of the DC animated stuff.

He was in Young Justice, he was the voice of

Aban Sur in one of the Green Lantern movies.

He did Black Adam in the... one DC showcase movie.

That is a racist chuck. He's another one that

always plays like, you know, the villain role.

He really, he really goes for those. And I just

think he has a great look to him. Not just I'm

not just picking bald people either, like I swear.

Mr. Clean. I think that iconic look is important,

though, because, like I said before, the comic

characters, I mean, the look, it is a big is

pretty big part of it. But honestly, like I've.

I've seen this guy in a few things I've watched

a lot of clips and he really plays a villain

well you know like even the subtle like looks

and you know the look in his eyes and stuff the

way he talks his voice I think he would be a

perfect Lex. I really would like to see him play

it but you know we'll see where this one goes.

The other funny thing too was Vaslu was actually

in a Van Damme movie called Hard Target. No,

which is kind of funny and he I mean needless

to say he kind of outshined Van Damme in that

but that's not too hard to do in hard target

John Claude Van Damme punches a snake in the

face Yeah, that's a YouTube clip that you need

to check out because it's just so hilariously

bad the funny part about it is He was about to

you know make out with this girl And he sees

the snake behind her and just grabs it and proceeds

to kill it with his fist. And needsless to say,

you know, ruins the moment with the girl who

kind of shrieks in terror and runs off. But Voslu,

very good in it, very good at playing a bad guy.

Oh, well, can't always have what we want, I guess.

Yeah, can't always have what you want. Exactly.

We'll see how it goes. Hopefully that works out.

I think this episode's running a little bit longer

than normal, but that's alright because it seems

fitting in an episode that's taking it too far

that we are ourselves taking it a little bit

too far. Anything else before we end this great

episode? I do have a little bit of a letter here

to finish off the episode, but I just wanted

to check and see how we were with the whole anything

you wanted to add, Greg, regarding the whole

Lex Luthor stuff. I don't care enough. You were

probably really bored during my whole spiel there.

To be honest, I'm playing this game on my phone

As I mentioned we like to end each episode with

a specific letter we've talking to a lot of people

so far Brian Michael Bendis Tom Brady parents

at What was that they both didn't write us back

no, no, no, they were just hurt too much I guess

but you know, we don't do it in love. Well, I

have another letter here and Don't know about

where you where you are listening from this room,

but ourselves I live in Baltimore and Greg and

Chuck both live in Northeast PI and Mother Nature

has been kicking the ever living crap out of

us for this past winter. Cold temperatures, snow

like every other day. It is absolutely horrible.

It's just, and it's not even like a lot, it's

just annoying snow that just keeps coming and

won't stop. It's like, all right, we're good.

Nope, here's six more inches of snow and then.

Yes, it's not a dusting Texas, come on. Yeah.

Two inches is all it took to shut down Atlanta.

So with that in mind, I'm like, all right, well,

how can we make this better? Well, I'm going

to do my part. I'm going to try to do my part.

I wrote a letter to Mother Nature and hoping

that we could, you know, work things out. And

here it goes. So Mother Nature, you are listening.

I'm assuming you get podcasts. I don't know how

your things work. You got to get good Wi -Fi.

You're all for the place. Dear Mother Nature.

Dan here. I want to start off by saying I'm a

big fan of your work. I mean, there are few things

more perfect than a beautiful sunset on a calm

summer evening, becoming immersed in a spectacular

way, a brightly colored fall foliage on a brisk

autumn day, or taking a breathtaking view of

some of your greatest hits like the magnificent

Grand Canyon. Seriously, your work is the bee's

knees. Hey, and without you, we wouldn't have

that colloquialism. Without you, we would not

have bee's knees. Neither would we have rainbows.

And without rainbows, we don't have skittles.

And no leprechauns. Which means no leprechaun

too, back in the hood. Also, with Notre Dame

fighting Irish, Mascot would have to be something

different. Perhaps a drunkenly elderly man with

soiled pants and a short fuse. In other words,

Irish. We understand that, on occasion, we'll

deal with an earthquake here, truly blizzard,

or an ill -timed rainstorm on your wedding day.

Speaking from experience there. We get that.

We understand that. Those are the rules we have

agreed to follow. Recently, it appears humankind

has stricken some sort of a nerve with you. Hurricanes

are more powerful than ever. Earthquakes are

happening in places they never occurred before.

And you pulled something new from your bag of

tricks. Something called the polar vortex. giving

us a bitter cold temperature and endless amounts

of snow. Seriously, it feels like we're in a

Roll of the Emmerich movie or something. I'm

out the moment I see a flying frozen cow across

the screen. The question then becomes, what did

we do to deserve this downpour of disaster? Is

it the constant deforestation of rainforests

aiming for more beef ranch property? Poaching

black rhinos in order to use their sweet toss

for awesome iPhone covers? Or maybe filling your

air with bellowing smoke from our ginormous SUVs

that could also double as tanks destroy unexpected

villagers. No, it's under these. Mother Nature,

you've gone green. No, not that type of green.

Green with envy. You see us palling around with

Mars more than ever. Even China has taken the

space and landed a lunar module on the moon.

You think maybe our eyes are wandering elsewhere

and we don't appreciate everything you do for

us, so you're giving us a very, very cold shoulder.

I'm here to say Mother Nature, you got nothing

to worry about. More just means nothing to us.

It doesn't have what you have. No breathable

atmosphere, no evidence of water, and it really

overdoes it with the color red. Seriously, you're

or truly the only one for us. Speaking of the

color red, Valentine's Day is coming up. Let's

see if we can change that climate and celebrate

in style. We'll go some place you like. You'll

put on that thing that we like. and we'll spend

some quality time with one another, come back

home, set the mood with some soft candlelight,

put on some Kenny G, only the hits, and let the

mercury rise. The appropriate temperature. For

this type of year, in this climate, I'm thinking

about 20 to 30 degrees with an average participation

of 13%. Wind chill should mostly be a non -factor

in order to cut down on the below freezing temperatures.

Then, Once spring hits, we can turn on the humidity

and increase the tropical air pressure and let

the moisture saturate the air. It'll be like

old times, but not too old times. No need to

bring in some biblical plague or something like

that. Just some good old fashioned normal weather.

Sincerely, humanity. Nice let me let me close

out of the porn that I was watching while you're

reading that I got a little hot there Yeah, hopefully

hopefully that does it that does the trick cuz

God knows Spring cannot come soon enough. Yeah,

I'll second that. Alright, so that's pretty much

it for us for episode 3 Wow, we're already up

in episode 3 you have been hot not been cancelled

yet. That's pretty awesome So that'll do it for

us for this week. This has been Chuck. This has

been Greg or Barbara Walters And this has been

Dan and we've been talking in circles. We'll

see you next week Sorry, I think I cut you off

there Greg. That's right. I feel like I'm jumping

in just Everybody's talking and I'm like jump

in wrong spot That was running long, but I think

it was a really good segment, yeah, yeah Yeah,

okay. I mean it doesn't really matter how long

the episode is so who really cares it just makes

it for me to edit Yeah, who cares about your

time? I'll be right back. I just want to grab

my phone because it has my list of the stuff

we're gonna talk about so okay Talk talk to amongst

yourselves. Oh At one time when Dan did this

I Unplugged hold on Garrett you there. Yeah.

Okay. I thought I yanked on my cord here not

sexual but my freaking battery was dying like

halfway through the first segment and I had to

like I had to mute my Mic and like plug it in

and I'm making all these like noises on the thing.

Thank God. I muted it No, okay, cuz I didn't

hear you at all. Yeah, but like on my Audacity

thing. There's all these spikes cuz I'm making

all this noise Yeah, and I'm like think that

I plugged it in cuz I'm like banging it off the

heater and all this stuff Are we doing factor

fiction? I don't think we're gonna have time,

honestly. I don't know. I think we're gonna kind

of do those taking too far ones and Dan's letter

will probably be done. No. Because I honestly

I want to do some factor fiction because I came

up with about eight of them. See I only have

one for you and I thought of one in the shower

too and I forgot it now. Oh, you're taking me

in the shower thing. That's right. You should

just put that in the episode. Just have it in

there. I will be like an outing at the end. I

might do that. Good idea.