Deadpool Review

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Hi, this is Chuck. This is Greg. And this is

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wall just as much as Deadpool cuz today we will

be doing our Deadpool review But before we talk

about the mark with the mouth, how's the week

been going for you guys? Week's been pretty good

pretty crazy roller coaster weather ride. We've

been on we've had Like three below and then two

days later. We had 53 degrees Man, so what you're

saying is the potholes are coming Yeah, we are

coming yeah 50 degrees swing in less than 48

hours, which I mean for the good I mean it was

good that it warmed up, but yeah, it was crazy.

We had like really strong wind and everything

we lost power the one night and stuff was like

right in the middle of eating dinner and like

all the lights went out i'm like damn it but

and it was it was funny because it was the night

that flash was on oh and i was i know i was like

super excited for flash because it was the second

uh earth 2 episode and uh luckily like i was

waiting around it was like an hour it was still

out i had like candles everywhere Did you watch

it by candlelight? Is that what happened? I was

about to fire up the generator and like plug

in the cable box and the TV and see if I could

get it but luckily it was about 10 after 8 that

the power came on and I was able to watch the

rest of the episode so I was like thank god.

I was about to get mad. You wouldn't like Chuck

when he's angry. That's right. Greg, how are

things going with you? You feeling better this

week? Oh, yes. Thank you. That week was rough.

No, but I'm doing much better. I got back on

my workouts again and I lost my love handles.

Those seem to be the first things that go when

I start to work out. Love handles kind of shrink

off. So there's less for you to love then, huh?

A little bit. But I'm still overall very lovable

ladies Yeah, I don't I don't let's be honest

there's probably no ladies that actually listen

to this podcast But uh, my we just been going

going decently well Took my son to go get his

first haircut, which is kind of insane. He just

has like so mohawk Yeah, we wanted to go. I wanted

to go mohawk. I was thinking like either that

or corn rolls not go over well though. Now just

a basic cut. It's only nine months old, but he

has tons and tons of hair. So we had to go. It

went pretty well actually better than I expected.

He cried a little bit, but not too much. But

we went to this place called Cartoon Cuts, which

I now want to get my haircut at because, you

know, why not get your haircut by a cartoon?

But it was not really a cartoon and more like

this old 60 year old lady with the raspy voice.

So not how's it going on? How would you like

to have any cartoon? She would sound like the

lunch lady from The Simpsons. So I was going

to say or maybe Marge's sister. Yeah. So maybe

true. Maybe that was it. But she was actually

very nice and she did a great job. So we wanted

to go someplace where like they used to cut in

kids hair because it's certainly a different

thing. But it was interesting where everybody

knows your name. Exactly. Yeah. But it'd be really

weird if someone Everyone knew my name at a place

that cuts kids hair considering So was it like

$23 for a haircut? It was like 18 bucks. I'm

like really I'm like he's nine months old Yeah,

but they gave us a certificate and a lock of

his hair so Authenticity of the kids hair and

I'm like, oh and they give us a lock of his hair

But I'm like you realize like that's his hair

You can't sell us that like that doesn't like

somehow make the price better. So you give us

a lock of hair, but yeah Not paying you to cut

off pieces of hair and give it back to me No,

no, not at all. But we've we've also had a lot

of weird weather here mostly like ice and then

rain and then snow and It's been a while since

we last recorded, but I was off for a few days

here and there. And during that time off, I was

working from home, but I threw the TV on in the

background and different things. And one thing

I was catching up with, because the second season

just came on Netflix not too long ago, was Young

Justice. I don't know if you guys have watched

any of that at all. I watched the first season,

I tried to watch the second season, and then

it was a while after when I started watching

the second season. I got very confused, wasn't

sure if I missed something at the end of the

first season or if I actually did finish watching

the first season. So now I'm going back through

the first season, working my way back to the

second season now. I can see why you would get

confused because there is a big time jump from

the end of season one to the beginning of season

two. Okay, like so it's like a five -year time

jump. Okay. I was so damn confused Exactly The

first the first season is on the the characters

are Aqualad Kid Flash Robin Martian Manhunter's

daughter not daughter niece, I guess I forget

her actual name Megan something. Yeah And a few

other other characters here and they're kind

of popping and pop out I actually ended up I

didn't have very little I had very little expectations

for the show, but I actually ended up really

liking it I thought it was so much better than

I expected and I think it is on par with the

other Justice League cartoon and The one thing

I did have to get around was the names of the

characters like I do wonder you just show you

how creative Comic book writers were back in

the day when these names came up. It's like,

okay, it's it's kid flash It's flashes kids sidekick.

I guess we'll just go kid flash is that we're

just gonna go with that We're not gonna we're

not gonna add it. We're just gonna go with kid

flash. Okay Well, it's like speedy was already

taken. So true speedy was taken. I do find it

funny They didn't make that joke a lot. So it's

like they call kid flash speedy all the time.

Like, you know, he's not speedy That's the other

guy Um, and then there's like aqua lad, which

i'm like that's even that's really that doesn't

they kind of just update that name They're gonna

go with you're gonna stick with aqua lad. All

right. Well, there you go Okay, how could we

make aquaman lamer? Call him Call him lad and

make him english But aqua lad is actually a pretty

cool character that was kind of interesting that

he was kind of the leader of it But there are

a lot of interesting pylons. I thought like character

wise that it had the fact that it is Young Justice,

you saw so much more development with these characters

from season one and throughout season one and

season two. And I had a lot of initial issues

with the show, but a lot of the issues I had

were kind of solved with Martian Manhunter's

Megan, that character. She's a Martian and she

has a certain speech pattern and something about

her character really bugged me. And I was like,

man, this is really getting annoying. But then

when you kind of find out... where she's basing

her human form off. It makes so much sense. I'm

like, okay, now I - Done, Megan. Yeah, yeah.

Hello, Megan. I'm like, stop, that is awful.

Yeah, and it was so bad, but then when you see

like, oh, she's, that's where she's getting it

from. It makes sense why it's like that. And

there's a lot of little things like that. But

I thought it was, the action is fantastic. How

many has the second best voice for Batman? I

forget his name. It's the guy who is in, I'm

- Looking up right now. It's the guy who was

in star trek who was the cap who's the captain

who recruits kirk. Oh, uh, bruce greenwood Yeah,

bruce greenwin. Oh, I would I was it bad that

I was thinking of the original original star

trek and original original kirk What bad i'd

be more if you if you actually pulled that name

out of your hat i'd be impressed. But yeah Bruce

greenwood who was really good. Honestly, I thought

he was Batman has the really like authoritative

voice to it, which works well because he's kind

of like the overseer of this group. But yeah,

it was kind of cool too, I guess. I don't know

how true this is, but there is this rumor going

around that Netflix is looking at the metrics

and looking at people watching the show and seeing

how active people are and how many people are

actually viewing it and sticking with it. Doesn't

Netflix know that they're in America? We don't

use the metric system. True, true. They feel

like there's enough interest that there's debate

or there's rumors that they might be trying to

get a season three for the show. I don't know

how true that is. I find it highly unlikely.

I mean, it's not impossible, but just considering

it's an animated TV show, those are kind of hard

to do. They've done animated before. They've

done, what was that shitty movie with Ryan Reynolds

that was animated? Turbo. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. But

I think those, they didn't... the difference

is like this would be like from a WB property

and I don't know I'm not saying it's impossible

but I just I wonder if it would actually happen

I think it'd be cool so if you're wondering about

watching it and you have interest in seeing it

definitely give it um give it a look and it's

worth it too so if you've only watched the first

season I don't know what season I like more in

season two we do get Nightwing you know and we

and other characters too so they kind of show

up more Superboy still in season two. Yeah. Yeah

super boys in both seasons. So yeah, cuz I I

liked him a lot in the first season but He's

not nearly as much of a focus. Yeah, but there's

but there's a kind of like a There's what's interesting

I felt like with Season two. It's a season -long

story. It is like a complete arc like where every

episode kind of revolves around this one story,

so it does feel like a complete graphic novel

in that way, where it's not like episode of the

week type of stuff, which I was not expecting

for a cartoon, so I thought that was pretty cool

for the second season. I mean, for the most part,

there's some off episodes here and there, but

besides that though, I know the other thing that

did come out, keeping in the comic book realm,

was the trailer for Daredevil season two. Chuck,

I know that you did see this, so I was curious

what you thought. The trailer for Daredevil season

2 now with Punisher I thought like a really bad

Now with fresh Punisher flavor You do get fresh

but you get plenty of that so you just need like

the slap chop guy trying to sell it I thought

it was pretty awesome, actually. I was kind of

curious to see... I was really eager to see Bernthal

as the Punisher and just get a few snippets of

him and see what he would be like. I gotta say

I was pretty pleased with what I did see. Didn't

give you a whole lot, but I thought he was kind

of pulling off that dark and brooding... Punisher

feel for the most part like sort of like a like

a low gritty voice and then obviously Getting

very animated when he was having the discussion

with daredevil about uh You know about which

one of their people gets up after they hit them.

I thought that was kind of amusing Don't know

it was it was it was pretty cool. I was especially

impressed with the Twist at the end with the

character that showed up. That was pretty awesome.

I was not expecting that in the trailer and Believe

it or not. That's that's only like the first

part of the trailer. Like I guess there's a second

part that's coming out February 25th So, I don't

know how much more they're gonna show in that

one or not, but that's interesting Cuz were you

at all shocked that there was like no mention

of the Kingpin at all? Not really. I mean, I

kind of was like expecting maybe they would have

him in a couple episodes, but I actually went

on IMDB and the cast list and like they already

have a lot of the characters listed for like

how many episodes they appear in. And it's cumulative.

So like they should obviously they have Charlie

Cox listed to 26 episodes. And somebody else

listed at 26 episodes. And then they still have

Kingpin listed at 13, I think. So I don't think

he's going to be much of a factor in this season

at all. Maybe just very, very slightly. That's

kind of sad. Yeah, it is. Because he really kind

of is what cemented that first season towards

the end. That's what really kind of drove it

home for you. You know when we heard that the

Punisher was gonna be in season 2 of Daredevil

I guess like from my mind I'm I was thinking

I'll probably be like in an episode here and

there but it seems like that is like the main

focus of the season is Daredevil against Punisher

and you know the idea that Punisher is coming

about mainly because of what daredevil did and

him having to deal with their repercussions Which

is great because that's so much goes into the

character of daredevil that is so much about

guilt So it's like here's another thing. Here's

another thing to add on to you Who's this guy

that you created that kills everyone? Yeah, and

I'm like a barithal as the Punisher it he does

seem like it is very much What I expected from

him it does feel like him as Shane from walking

dead Being a little bit more crazed but a little

bit more I guess moral in the sense So I am I

am looking forward to how like them seeing them

show down and it looks Looks looks great. Just

as great as last season did and so I Knowing

that there's a second piece of it. I do wonder

like what more there is if there's another Big

bad there. I do wonder if like you can have an

entire season with these two like that being

the focus an interesting tidbit is that Both

the Punisher character and the electric character

are slated to appear in every episode the season

I'm just wonder if they'll be another villain

in some capacity. I assume there would have to

be at least you would think, or possibly some

sort of mob boss that is related to taking down

the person who killed the Frank Castle family.

Do you think they would go bullseye at all? I

wonder, I wonder, because there was kind of a

hint to him in season one with the one sniper

episode, so it's possible. There's, I think,

ways that you can incorporate that character

without... People realizing it like they did

season one. So maybe I just I can't help but

wonder because once they start bringing the lecture

into it and like developing that sort of love

interest and Everything like that. I can't help

but wonder if you know bulls -eye is just gonna

come in and ruin it on him. But yeah, I mean

I I thought they'll be bringing like stilt man

in or anything like that, right? Although they

did make the reference to the guy last season.

What was it? The Guardian or whatever? Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, they didn't really have him, but

they kind of made a reference to him, which was

cool. Yeah. I wonder if we'll see like Luke Cage

at all or if there'll be any showing up there.

I don't know. That would be cool. Little little

crossover action, because, I mean, they have

to tie them together at some point right before

they do the Defenders series. I think so. Maybe

Matt Murdock is helping Luke Cage out on some

of his. or i don't know he's trying to i had

a joke there or i had an idea there he his insurance

claims after his bar blew up exactly exactly

uh like it's arson like no it's not how did you

survive funny story about that i was watching

uh kingdom of the crystal skull at the time and

i just jumped in the refrigerator it works it's

man people say that movie's unrealistic but Nice.

So look looking forward to can't wait. It comes

out like a week before Matt Batman versus Superman

So it's gonna be an insane year when it comes

to comic book related things I feel like we're

getting no no no no sleep Did you see the other

little teaser that they put out it wasn't much

but it was like Daredevil chained to the Little

brick chimney thing or whatever and you hear

like gunshots in the background and like he's

kind of screaming because he can't get loose

So it's like it's kind of like obviously like

the Punisher chained him up there and he can't

you know He can't get to stop him before he kills

Whoever he's going after but that was kind of

interesting No, I did not see that so Well, there

is some stuff to see I thought let us know what

you think about the trailer But we're gonna do

right now is take a quick break and we come back

We were talking about the movie. I feel like

we've been waiting forever for and that's Daredevil.

Not Daredevil, but the other guy who wears a

red suit and not Santa Claus, but Deadpool. So

we'll see you in a bit. I only have ten bullets.

So you're gonna have to share I am very turned

on right now. We can't allow this deadpool colossus.

Nobody's getting hers I was up there before we

got here. All right, and welcome back yesterday

We are discussing the murk with the mouth this

time with out of so mouth the movie that Somehow

finally got made I remember way back when we

talked about the leak footage and how much we

enjoyed that and now the movie is finally here

Greg, let's start with you because I feel like

you probably I wouldn't me. I'm all Deadpool

fans, but you might be the biggest one. Maybe

I'm not sure Well, you prefer cable over Deadpool

for cable over Deadpool. I mean, he does look

like Keira Knightley, so I don't think Chuck

ever really read any Deadpool comics, so I would

say you're correct since I rate Deadpool over

Cable any day of the week. but yeah i thought

it was freaking excellent definitely met and

went beyond expectations it's not a very complicated

plot at all to be honest but it definitely fills

it in with a lot of action a lot of comedy so

it really did need to be very uh plot heavy to

uh be a winner i think Yeah, no, I think it's

definitely not. It's not like people are like,

you know what I loved that pull for? His plot.

He's got amazing plots. Well, he does have some

interesting situations sometimes going on in

the comics, so. He's not void of plot, but you

know. No, but he's not plot heavy. And it kind

of went how I expected it to. They were definitely

shooting back and forth between past and present

flashbacks and everything. So that was kind of

expected. But otherwise, I thought it was really

great. I didn't have any huge complaints. I don't

think I even really had any small complaints.

I was very happy that they had the Rosie O'Donnell

line in there, because I thought it was the much

better line than the Jose Canseco line. It's

funny, when I heard that, I'm like, oh, Greg's

going to be happy. Yes. But yeah, overall good.

I think it'd be more interesting to hear your

guys' side, who come from a background that doesn't

involve as much Deadpool. So, Jack, let's start

with you. What were your thoughts on the Deadpool

film? I'll be honest, I hated it. I thought it

was total garbage. No, I'm kidding. No, Greg

is right. I have never really read any Deadpool

pretty much ever. So I wasn't quite sure what

to expect going into this. I knew the gist of

it that he was like a funny character and everything.

And I kind of knew. His base funny story how

Chuck funny like he amuses me And I kind of went

in thinking like obviously this is not a well

-known character to Your average layperson because

I had people asking me like like who's this Deadpool

guy? Like what you know, what does he do and

everything? And I'm like, I know the basic thing

about him and that's about it But I'm like just

go see it because it's gonna be hilarious. That's

all I know And that's pretty much what I was

banking on because I'm like, if this movie is

going to be a success, it's going to be because

of the comedy and they're going to have to knock

it out of the park. And and I was worried that

it was going to be one of those things where

like all the funny lines are in the trailers

because, you know, the two trailers they put

out were pretty hilarious in themselves. But

they really held up to it. They did knock it

out of the park. I mean, for every line that

was in. the trailer there were dozens more behind

it and i was just super super impressed at how

they were able to keep up the level of comedy

through the whole movie and i honestly kind of

felt like it kind of felt like the first time

i watched hangover like it was just it was for

a first time watch it was just one of those great

experiences where just rolling with every punch

like everyone was just making me laugh like and

i mean greg and i were sitting right next to

each other obviously we were laughing at the

same stuff but it was awesome like both hands

the whole the whole the whole theater was pretty

much cracking up i mean i think there were certain

jokes that we got better than other people got

but for the most part like the entire Theater

was you know cracking up through the whole movie,

and I was really impressed with that I like I

mean I liked that the plot was simple because

I feel like with how many jokes they were throwing

at you You didn't really want to be thinking

too much because you kind of want to remember

some of these funny lines So you could repeat

them the next day tell your friends and stuff

so I mean I think it worked well I like how they

they kind of layered it where they went back

and forth telling the story kind of like past

and present past and present like I thought it

worked very well you know liked how he broke

the fourth wall a few times throughout and everything

so yeah it was I didn't know what to expect going

in but I was super super impressed coming out

and I uh I bragged it up to uh people I work

with and stuff and I got them all hyped up so

they're gonna go see it now my theater is the

same thing I actually went on a Saturday morning

at like 10 a .m and it was like packed And I

was really surprised by that. Well, not after

I saw it made like a trillion dollars, but yeah,

I'll make it three for three. I really, really

enjoyed this. And I know one of the biggest complaints

we were talking and mentioning it, and I saw

people complaining that, you know, it is somewhat

formulaic. It's just taking the kind of the superhero

origin that we know and just adding a different

element of kind of comedy to it. And I think,

yeah, that's exactly what it should be doing.

Because Deadpool basically is a spoof character

like Deadpool has to exist in a comic book He's

a character who realizes he exists in a comic

book and in this he realizes he exists in a comic

book movie So you need this movie to feel and

like a comic book movie in every element of it

By having that comic book structure you're allowing

his character to kind of be exactly what it is

in the comics. It's like a great spoof. If you

look at something like Naked Gun, that plot of

Naked Gun is very much the plot of a crime drama

of that type. But they just add this layer of

spoof to it, and then you have a spoof comedy.

Airplane, you take out the comedy and you have

your airplane drama or thriller that you would

normally have. And I think that's what this is.

The difference is, though, is that Deadpool...

is not a spoof film. It's a movie with a character

that is a spoof character. Like he, everything

about the world is all kind of normal except

for Deadpool. He's the thing that makes it odd

and unique and different. So I think it has to

have that structure of a comic book film or a

comic comic book film for it to make sense. And

what I did really like about it though, is with

its form, with its familiar. plot one element

that you often see with comic book movies is

that relationship and you you know from Mary

Jane to and Peter Parker to uh you know the X

-Men relationships and Wolverine and Jean Grey

or what have you but I felt like this one was

one of the best out of any of the actual uh comic

book movies uh that the the chemistry that the

characters had was really strong and I loved

how it it maintained its R rating within that

relationship. It didn't try to kitty it up or

it didn't try to force in a relationship that

from another film into this one, it stayed with

the sensibilities the movie had. And ultimately,

you know, it's a movie that is really designed

just to be really fun and enjoyable, but. It

becomes even more enjoyable because you invest

in these characters. You care about these characters.

And you really want to see Deadpool get that

revenge. It's your revenge tale. I mean, there

are some issues with it. I mean, it's a movie

that maybe doesn't have the scope of that of

a big comic book movie. This is not a movie about

saving the world, which it doesn't have to be.

But it also has a villain that's somewhat forgettable.

He's a good foil for Deadpool, but not much more.

But that's what I really enjoy. But one thing

I want to go back to, Chuck, knowing that you

are a huge Colossus fan, how did you feel like

Colossus was represented in this? I thought he

was represented perfectly, to be honest. I really

did enjoy his fight with with Angel Dust, Gina

Carano. I enjoyed that a lot because he did get

knocked around a little bit, but I definitely

feel like he was pretty much holding back most

of the time because like You know, like he made

the comment about not wanting to hit a woman

and everything. And like, like he was fighting

her and everything, but he was kind of holding

back because he didn't know how much she could

take and everything. And then obviously like,

you know, when he was, her boob fell out and

she, he was like blocking it with his hand and

stuff. Like that's classic classes. Like that's

totally how you would be like just like a good

guy and everything. of course his big speech

at the end there to Wade trying to get him to

you know spare the villain which obviously doesn't

work but you know I just felt like that was they

were very true to his character and I would have

loved to see him cut loose a little bit more

physically obviously they didn't have anybody

that he could really do that with and still stay

true to his character and everything so I like

the way they did it though I was pretty happy

with it What did you think of the look of him?

Did it bug you that it was just a completely

CGI character? No, not at all, actually. I loved

the look of him. I know it was CGI and you don't

really get to see him in the human form, but

I didn't have a problem with that at all. I think

it looked good. It wasn't too shiny and glossy,

kind of like the other Colossus was. I mean,

it was more like... It looks like he's actually

been kicking some ass because he's kind of got

some dirt on him and stuff and he's little He's

not all polished and bright and stuff and then

like fake looking like the the other colossus

was so I Really liked how he looked and I don't

think it was necessary to show him in the human

form either be you know based on his His role

as a supporting character, so I was pretty happy

with how they used him nice nice i know we talked

about a little bit but greg i remember when this

was coming up and when people were talking about

it one thing you're like he's got up right to

fourth wall he has to be able to do that how

did you think they handled that element of the

character with within this this actual film I

thought they did great with it, especially in

the after credits scene, uh, cause I have seen

that other movie that they're referring to, um,

and I, I thought they, they nailed that on the

head. There were some great moments where he

talked to us or kind of brought us into the world

a little bit, kind of like in the commercial,

the trailer for it, when he refers to the, the

green lantern costume, which there were a couple

more digs on that inside. the movie itself, uh,

which were really great. And another neat thing

that, that's kind of a fourth wall break is the

credits, the opening credits, which I thought

were great. They didn't have actual names of

the people. They had funny comments. The producer,

uh, producers were a bunch of ass hats or something,

I think. So that, that was just great in itself.

That whole, that whole thing directed by some

douchebag. Yeah, yeah, so I thought that was

really great with the bright teenager British

villain CGI sidekick or something So I thought

that was really great I thought it was a great

way to go with it and even though the closing

credits were a lot of fun and funny so Yeah,

I seriously did not have a problem with any of

it, really. I was talking to my brother, who

is an Iron Man fan. The only reason he's an Iron

Man fan is because of the movies. And he's never

really read a comic book in his life. And I asked

him if he liked the movie. He goes, yeah, I think

I have another favorite comic book character.

So I was really happy about that too. Yeah, I

like the way differently as they did it like

there is referencing to the you know, a lot of

referencing to wolverine Which is about the character

about the actual movie that I was in that was

enjoyable for sure I was wondering how far they

would take that and I think they took it as far

as you possibly could without being too much

the actual moments when he's like moving the

camera which were pretty cool and yeah, and uh,

yeah, like it I think it was smart to start it

from the beginning and it I was wondering like

how well audiences would react to something like

that. But I thought for my audience, it was no

problem. It just seemed like it was just, you

know, it just kind of went with it. So, you know,

one of my favorite. Sorry. Go ahead. Oh, sorry.

You know, I thought was interesting. Just real

quick about the fourth wall breaking. I think

it was the one scene when they were still on

the bridge on the highway and Deadpool was saying

something. And I think one of the other characters

like. Questioning about it and he's like I wasn't

talking to you. I was talking to them Yeah, but

like no, but like none of the other characters

Acknowledged it like they didn't eat they didn't

even ask like who's that? Like are you talking

about try to ignore Deadpool because he's fucking

annoying is right That's kind of I was trying

to like Let that lead me and thought a little

bit and like take me somewhere and I was thinking

like okay So why would they do that and I'm thinking

like well? I guess most characters just assume

that he's insane. They pretty much just ignore

what he says. In the comics, they're usually

like, what the hell are you talking about? They

usually chalk it up to him being insane. So they

probably figure, oh, he's got invisible friends

that he's talking to or something. But it's just

funny how they stayed true to that even with

the other character's reaction to it. I thought

that was pretty cool. But I was gonna say my

favorite line and I think it's one of Chuck's

favorites is the references to the X -Men of

Oh, you're gonna take me to Xavier, which one?

I have to avoid your Stewart. I don't these timelines

are so confusing When they show up at the X mansion

and he's looking around he goes he kind of peeks

in the door he goes It's weird how there's this

big mansion, but I only ever see two of you.

It's like the producers couldn't find enough

money to afford the rest of the X -Men. Those

are my two favorite lines in the movie by far.

Because I was I was actually kind of thinking

that too like really it's I mean there I was

kind of insane that they went as far with the

exponent as I did But it makes so much sense

because I always feel like Deadpool is a character

that works best When he's with other characters

like he doesn't that's why I let enjoyed capable

and Deadpool because they had a really good interaction

So I was smart and I think to add in they got

Colossus and mega teenage warhead teenage. I

don't forget our name Mega Sonic Mega Sonic Warhead

or whatever Teenage Warhead, which I guess is

actually a real character from grandma run. I

didn't realize that I had to Google or I'll be

honest, but yeah She was like she was wearing

all this gothic stuff but when things went down

she kind of got into her X -Men actual uniform,

which was Pretty cool, but I thought you know

going back to what I was saying Deadpool, I think,

needs characters to play off of. And by having

a Colossus there and having those characters

there, it did ground it, seeing his reaction

with these characters, which was quite good.

And even if it's something like a taxi driver,

and I thought that was a fun little element.

I think that goes back to what Chuck said, how...

Good job, buddy! They didn't just put all the

funny stuff in the trailer. There was a lot of

stuff that they didn't even touch upon within

the trailer. They really, I think... did a lot

of smart marketing with this movie from beginning

to end. And I'm glad they're actually getting

a lot of success with it. And here's something

I am really surprised about. After I saw the

movie and everything, came back, tell my parents

about it. I am quite surprised that my mom now

really wants to go see Deadpool. Really? Yes,

my mom. I'm sorry, I cannot see that. Right?

I can't see that happening. But she totally wants

to go. I'm like, you know, it's like really violent,

like there's... Dirty comments. Dirty comments

and like there's boobs out there. Not like that's

going to affect her much since she's a woman,

but like it's rated R and it's... really going

for that rated r like kids were getting id at

the door and if they didn't have the id parents

had to come back and everything and go watch

the movie with the kids yeah they were actually

enforcing it at our theater they were not enforcing

it in my theater i saw many people well i shouldn't

say that they could have just been with their

parents which i guess makes it worse i saw at

least like a dozen kids under the age of 12 or

so so yeah didn't we hear like some kid under

the age of five was with his dad in it there's

or something like that chuck Oh, yeah, that was

a couple of my coworkers. They ended up getting

there late and it was actually sold out. So they

had to go to the next show. And they were telling

me that they had like there was a guy in there

and he looked like he had like a really, really

young kid with him. And I'm like, really? Like,

what is wrong with you? I know way back, a few

episodes ago, we talked about it being read an

R and there was that petition for it. Wb related

pg -13 or so we talked about would that be an

issue if they had like How would they even get

it down to a pg -13 from what they had? That's

what would be my question to you guys Do you

think this could be at all changed to pg -13

rating and still be the same movie? No, it definitely

would not be the same movie, but I think it would

still be Somewhat enjoyable for a kid that would

be, you know, looking for a comic book movie.

I think there's still elements that would support

them liking it. You know, you have good fight

scenes and action and everything. And I mean,

you would definitely be cutting a lot of things

out of it. And like any adult that would watch

it would probably be completely ruined for them.

But yeah, it would be really, really hard to

accomplish that. I look at like something like

His origin him being created like that itself

to me is you know, there's no blood there There's

no really but psychologically and that's kind

of like yeah I don't know that's that's intense

in the idea of being in this machine where you're

constantly almost going to suffocate like I Yeah,

if you're not strong of mind, you're you're almost

having a panic attack right in the theater like

yeah. Yeah, so I feel like that would have some

negative, hugely negative impact. So is it possible?

Probably, but I do think it's gonna be, I don't

think it'd be nearly as successful. I don't necessarily

think you need an R rating, but I do think this

movie that they made, I cannot see it working

without that, because it certainly gets into,

like even like I mentioned from everything, like

the relationship of the characters to the way

Deadpool is, to like the crazy old blind lady.

I don't know, there'd be a lot of - Blind Al?

Yeah, she from the comics I couldn't remember.

Yes Except she she wasn't a black lady. She was

white in the comics, but I don't I don't think

that mattered any And I did I did love the little

cameo Bob, you know, he wasn't Yes, that was

great Probably no one got that, but they still

made it funny. They found a way to screw over

Marvel and take one of their characters without...

Because they can't copyright the name Bob. So

then, you know, it's just Bob, but just not Bob

the agent of Hydra. So for those that don't know,

there's this character in the comics, debuted

in Cable and Deadpool, where he was just this

guy who was a Hydra agent, but he's just like

a regular dude who befriends... Your friend's

Deadpool and he becomes Bob the eugenohydra and

it's just this wacky thing that kind of continues

and it's becoming a norm in the comics for a

while so that's the reference that within the

film where they have this guy Bob and he's a

he's a little bit more a two -fifths in the comics

I would say but yeah It was quite good And one

thing I did want to mention too was that we do

have we didn't talk about it we have to give

huge dividends to Ryan Reynolds because man that

we talked about it for it's been rumored and

people wanted to see it forever but the guy is

Deadpool in every shape and form without him

this movie would not be what it is and it's his

maybe one of the best representations of a character

when it comes to a comic book movie ever yeah

and you could you could see like flashes of that

when he played uh Hannibal king in blade three

yeah yeah like you could see like Lot of Deadpool

elements in that character in that performance

even like it was it was pretty obvious. He's

the right choice Yeah, definitely and it's because

of him that movie really was being made. I think

he was the one that Supposedly leaked the footage

and he's been trying to get it off the ground

forever. So A lot to see it pay off because it

made like I did not think this movie would be

nearly successful was I thought it would be like

it's successful as kick -ass or something like

that but it actually made more money opening

weekend than a lot of comic book movies from

iron man to uh x -men apocalypse or not x -men

apocalypse but x -men d is a future past really

any x -men movie I think so it's uh it's insane

so we're definitely getting a deadpool 2 and

when thinking about deadpool 2 Any any thoughts

on where they can go? I know they talked about

cable Do you think are they gonna be able to

make that work within this? Are they gonna have

to change that character around to make cable

work in a comic book? I think they might have

to change him around a little bit I don't think

too too much the thing concerning me going forward

is Deadpool having a girlfriend because that

doesn't happen too often like in the comics copycat

really doesn't stay around and everything currently

Deadpool is married but that is a very tumultuous

relationship at this point, which started off

really great. And I was very happy with his his

wife. I thought she was a lot of fun. Shick Law,

the succubus. I actually have a drawing here

drawn by Riley Brown of Shick Law. But I can't

really picture Deadpool with Having a girlfriend

along for too long I'm wondering if maybe something's

gonna happen to her in the second movie to make

this work Because I don't picture him having

a girlfriend for too long Yeah, I mean, I don't

know it's it's hard to say I think It may not

be a major element of the next movie But I'm

not sure but any is there any worry with a movie

like Deadpool where you have so many types of

so you have this character that Kind of like

what happened with the comic where it gets overexposed

or something worried He'll get overexposed by

making another movie or people talk about getting

appearances and other X -Men films Is it gonna

be too much of Deadpool based upon the success

of this one comics? Yeah, exactly I don't know.

I don't think so. I I don't really I don't know

I guess I don't really see him appearing in other

X -Men movies I don't think I see more of like

other characters appearing in his movies for

whatever reason and I know like originally I

thought well you know maybe they're gonna make

some sort of reference to him in Age of Apocalypse

but I don't I don't really think that they will

I do think there's an outside chance that maybe

they're gonna do some sort of some reshoots for

X -1 Apocalypse in the next like month or so

they might put like an end credit scene in with

like cable or something just to try to like introduce

him i don't know i don't know if they would do

that because there hasn't been any casting news

about him at all but i know uh steven lang wants

to play him really really badly apparently but

i don't i could see him playing playing the character

i think someone meant jeffrey dean morgan i think

he could make a good good role someone mentioned

kevin nash when i please don't do that I did

see he definitely has the look but I don't I

don't know if he has the skill Yeah, I mean like

he just needs to get an outfit with a lot of

patches and I'll be good, right? if they maybe

they have Stephen Lang do the voice and All the

acting and then just have Kevin Nash as the stand

I don't know. I See some different excellent

characters may be appearing in the Deadpool sequel

like obviously we know cable But I feel like

they're gonna throw in maybe one more prominent

X -Men character or something like that. Sadly,

I don't know if we'll get to see Colossus again.

Maybe they'll bring him back if people really

liked him enough, but I feel like they would

probably go with another one just to try to like

shake it up a little bit. I don't know. I did

like Colossus in the boob scene. Yeah. You're

a beautiful woman. Please, on the left side.

Oh, there you go, there you go. Very nice. Aw,

that's so sweet. Not a lot of guys would do that.

Clocks him. I don't know where they could go

with the character, but like I said, this is

a movie that didn't really lie a lot on plot,

so it's not necessarily... As long as it's funny,

you'll be successful. There's not many really

main Deadpool villains. Even the Cable and Deadpool

story didn't really have a lot, but I guess maybe

they could... I don't know, like... Think cable

I think apocalypse, but I doubt they could go

there after the next movie. So who knows? I don't

know people be cable versus Deadpool in some

way As long as they don't give away the plot

in the trailer like some other comic company

does It's not really cable versus Deadpool at

the end. It's really like You see them eating

ice cream together or something. It's like wait

a minute But Deadpool would do that no matter

what. Let me let me ask you a question to you

guys from this random article I was reading during

the week. This one guy was sort of. He he had

a review of Deadpool, and I'm not going to say

what site it was or who it was, because honestly,

I don't remember. But the guy was basically harping

on it pretty good. He was like he was complaining

about it, saying like saying like a lot of the.

Comedy references like pop culture references

are things that are in the here and now and they're

not gonna hold up like 20 years from now and

I Really don't see how that's relevant. They're

they had references to frickin wham, which is

from the 80s I mean, they're they're making this

movie to make money now not 20 years from now

So I really don't see how that's relevant. But

just other things too is saying about how how

the serious parts in the movie somehow took away

from the enjoyable experience like it slowed

it down too much for him like he was hoping it

stayed with the fast pace and a comedy theme

throughout the whole thing like he thought the

serious moments dragged it down a little bit

which i don't agree with at all but i was hoping

to get your guys opinion on that Yeah, I think

ultimately Deadpool's within all the jokes, within

all his humor, he's still kind of a tragic character

in a way. And I didn't get that at all. To me,

like I mentioned with that story, with the love

story, I thought it was super effective. And

then I think you need to have a reasoning to

why this guy would go through what he did. And

I think comedy is best when you do have levity

to it, when you do have elements of serious drama

in there, here and there, in well -placed. One

of my favorite comedies of all time is Groundhog

Day, and I get into some serious stuff as well.

I didn't feel that at all. It, to me, made sense

for the character. It made sense in the fact

that it's giving motivations to the character.

It's making it not just in... hollow film full

of just random laughs, there's actually something

to him as a person. Like, yeah, he's this huge

joke, but it's this huge joke that really is

using humor to kind of hide the fact that he

is really ashamed of who he is, and he becomes

this pitiful figure that has just lost everything

and kind of hides it with this insanity in humor.

So yeah, I'm not that issue whatsoever. And not

only that, but also the fact that for as crazy

and insane as he is, the audience watching him

is not insane. So they need something to relate

to him by. So you sort of need something just

to like, okay, how can the audience connect with

this guy? All right. He's in love with this girl

and he gets terminal cancer. Like that's, that's

something that At least people can somewhat connect

with emotionally and understand maybe how he

went through this transformation and why and

stuff like that. You can't just make a movie

that's crazy and bonkers through and through

with absolutely no coherent plot. There has to

be something for the audience to relate to just

for the sake of filmmaking. Greg, what do you

think? Yeah, I agree with with both you guys

and there's also when Deadpool got really good

for me it was Just recently in the past year

or two when he found out that he kind of had

a family going there at one point and he was

confused about everything going on and he did

become a little bit more serious he's trying

to find himself whether he wanted to be a hero

or not whether he was a merc or not and so i

i thought it gave him a little bit more depth

made him a little bit more interesting but he

still had that That humor going on which made

him him to be quite honest I think that the person

that wrote that review or whatever is kind of

crazy because it did not feel like the humor

stopped that long for the drama the I think all

the humor packed in there helped the drama hit

a little bit harder just because there's such

a severe difference but I didn't feel like the

the more dramatic scenes went on too long at

all and I thought the the concepts of the dramatic

scenes were kind of interesting at least and

not like except in super cliche and if it was

cliche like getting cancer at least the the word

spoken during that where he kind of was like

I didn't I wasn't thinking about anything else

but looking at her face and trying to like get

get a picture of her face to meld in my mind

so I wouldn't lose it When I died I thought that

was kind of interesting take on that situation

wasn't a cliche way of dealing with it something

we haven't heard before when somebody was going

through cancer and trying to deal with it and

I thought the dramatic scene of him in that tube

was an interesting concept of torture not saying

it's a good thing just an interesting concept

to say the least For how long that movie was,

I don't feel like there was a lot of drama in

it, so I think the proportions from drama to

funny, the comedy definitely weighed out the

drama, so I don't understand why that guy was

complaining about it. Yeah, pretty much at the

end of every dramatic scene, he would crack a

hilarious joke. Like Dan said, that played right

into the tragedy of his character, like how he...

That's how he deals with that situation. Yeah,

he's like a Hawkeye Pierce over in uh Yeah, exactly

Korea. That's how he does with basically like

the the hell that he's living in sort of like

So it's it's kind of essential to the movie Like

I don't see how you can even take that out. Like

it's I don't know But I just I thought it'd be

interesting to hear you guys take on that. I'm

glad you kind of agree with me It's like the

opposite of like an action film right where an

action film has mostly all action and then you

add in some comedy here and there where this

is like The 180 of that where it's a lot of comedy

and within that you have layers of action layers

of serious drama So, I don't know like that.

I think that's Acting like a movie can't do like

a parfait in So what about the what about the

claim that uh, the jokes won't hold up like 20

years from now like Most of the jokes were kind

of like 80s ish like they had jokes about Wham

They had jokes about They had jokes about freaking

Ferris Bueller, which is from the 80s The only

thing that joke that kind of I think may not

hold up would be like the McAvoy Stewart joke,

but that's in reference to the X -Men timeline.

And the people that are gonna watch it decades

from now are gonna be the comic nerds and they're

gonna have seen those movies already and know

what's going on. I can't really think of a lot

of like current day like references. Maybe I

go back and I would be wrong, but... Rosie O'Donnell?

Rosie O'Donnell, timeless. Come on now, we know

that. timeless classic. I guess, if I remember

correctly, the argument was that the snide sort

of remarks that Tony Stark makes in the Avengers

are kind of... independent of what's going on

in pop culture at that time so that would kind

of hold up but this this made a lot of like present

-day references like the that you know like the

shake weed and the stuff stuff and Deadpool seriously

is in the moment like I just sent a picture to

Dan of Deadpool in the comic where he he is I

didn't show Dan the whole thing but he was going

after getting revenge on all these guys in his

little black book and he was going out to get

revenge and he was going on to get revenge on

this guy who ruined the ending of the Harry Potter

series for him. You see Deadpool in line waiting

for the last Harry Potter book to come out and

somebody drives by and, spoiler alert, Snape

kills Dumbledore! Snape kills Dumbledore! And,

like, you see Deadpool, like, noooo! But he goes

back and he... goes and he punches that guy in

the face. But then he goes and then he kills

them. And Deadpool goes, that's for killing.

That's for setting up Stephen Avery, which is

in the lexicon right now with the making making

a murderer series. Like that's all going on now.

So that's how Deadpool he does current pop culture.

That's what he is. He's a pop culture joke machine.

Yeah, he's like, again, goes back to the idea

that he thinks he's in a column. movie. So he's

then referencing things that were revolving that

comic book movie. Like, who's the sexiest man

alive? And I usually don't like pop culture references,

but honestly, seriously, when I hear that, I

don't even remember. The jokes that I found really

funny were often not even that. There were sometimes

the physical humor of him cutting his hand off

and the reaction to that and his little stubby

hand he had for a while, which was pretty funny.

So, I mean, maybe some of them would follow,

but like, it's shake rate, weight, it's not even

like... Like a thing right now, right? I mean

like that's kind of people That was a couple

years ago actually that's the way in South Park.

It's one of it was like Two years ago. It'd be

like, you know people making there's some Some

like it, you know said it and forget it like

that thing was like 20 years ago But people kind

of know that somewhat so maybe somewhat but I

don't think that I think that is really I mean

like Tony Stark's makes a Galaga joke and Avengers

is that gonna hold up 20 years from now? This

man is playing Galaga. Yeah. Yeah, I don't, I

see that as a non -issue. I mean, if, if people

watch it, I mean, I'm guessing in the future

they're going to be able to look stuff up faster

than we can now anyway. So they're just going

to be like, what's a slap chop? And then they'll

be like, Oh, okay. Oh, that's funny. I don't

even know what a slap chop is. Like to me, like

I know what a slap chop is. Oh my gosh. Remember

the dude, the, that guy, Vince, that like, He

went to jail because he like yeah the Shamoga.

He did the slap chop thing It's like a he just

put stuff in and it's got four blades and a chop

stuff up or whatever See, I don't even know what

that is. I didn't do this auto -tune song for

it and everything. It's hilarious. Yes See it

doesn't hold up already So I think it's pretty

obvious we're all given higher marks like like

most people so it is it's a movie that is unafraid

to be what it is, you know, it's uh, I think

that's kind of Doesn't try to be more doesn't

try to be less. It's just it is everything I

could ever imagine a deadpool movie being so

good or bad, but All right. Anything else before

we uh take end this episode? Did you want to

talk any any spoilers anything that you're itching

to I don't know if there's really anything to

spoil Yeah, I mean like there's the Stanley cameo

was spoiled for me before I watched it which

was Tell the story about the dude at the movie

theater what he said. Oh my god poster Outside

in like kind of in the hall area and it was the

the poster for Deadpool it had Deadpool on Colossus

shoulder and then on the sides it had like the

supporting cast and everything and one of the

supporting cast they had on the side was a picture

of Stan Lee and I guess in this one group that

was around it the one girl goes like who's that

or something like that and The one guy goes.

Oh, that's Stan Lee Yeah, he he's the one that

originally drew Deadpool. I'm like What? Yeah,

he's the one that originally drew Deadpool. I

was freaking out about this kid. Greg almost

tackled him. We had to hold him back. It was

insanity. Be like no that if they want to do

that, they would have a you know, Rob Lee field

and Apparently they did have Rob Lee field in

the movie. I didn't see him He was in the the

bar scene, but I didn't see oh really while I

was watching and I saw the cup Saw the cup with

the Rob L on it. Yeah, he makes a comment. He's

like, hey we feel like he's there he like looking

at stooge back he's ever Do you think it's funny

like we felt like making a he's like, you know,

he's been tweeting about Deadpool and it's great

like he helped create the character but The Deadpool

that is in this movie is not the Deadpool he

created. Exactly. Him taking credit for it is

kind of like, come on now. He came up with the

general style, like they've definitely tweaked

him so he looks much better now and he has actual

correct body proportions. Well, even his personality

when he came out, like with Ralph's skill, he

was just like a knockoff Deathstroke wannabe

assassin. Yeah, he's kind of super serious kind

of thing. Yeah. so just i mean like come on like

the fact that like that just to me shows everything

about probably filled for us like yeah look at

this character i created you did but it it's

not at all what you created did they did they

have uh did they have any credit to the what's

the guy's name that actually kind of made him

what he is today with like breaking the fourth

wall and everything oh forget his name i'm not

gonna remember either i can look it up on my

computer if you want Kelly noted with Deadpool

we could do anything we wanted because everybody

just expected the book to be cancelled every

five seconds So nobody was paying attention and

we could get away with it reported Kelly introduced

Reportedly Kelly introduced the fourth wall breaking

gimmick. So there you go Yeah, so I'm they should

have like they kind of should have thrown him

a bone a little bit because He really developed

him more into what he is today than Leefield

did, really. Yeah, and Leefield just drew it.

It's kind of like when it's kind of like how

Starlin like, you know, Starlin sort of created

Thanos based on Darkseid, but he took him and

like made him into his own different thing. Like,

it's it's kind of like I think you got to give

a little credit to Kelly there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's weird how comic books work in that end.

It's funny too that like Cable and Niple like

end up having this I didn't realize as many people

were as a fan of that book as you know like it's

weird that like now this movie is being made

and like oh obviously we're gonna have Cable

but like really people put them together and

I know I did because I like that book. Oh it

was hilarious because it's it's the straight

man versus the with the funny man it's Abbott

and Costello kind of like I'd be interested if

they have him like go into the future or something

like that, but you know, yeah All righty Well,

I think that will bring us to the end of this

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Chuck. This has been Greg, or Morena Bacron's

beautiful breasts. That's a mouthful, and more

ways than one. And this has been Dan, and we've

been talking in circles. We'll see you next week.

He's in Gotham, the first season of Gotham. I'm

not sure if he's in the second season. I don't

see it yet. Nice. He's just written that. Definitely.

Got a lot of respect. Got a lot of respect for

the voice actors. Oh, really? Yeah. I didn't

have any interest in watching him, though I do.

It's a good show, too. So, yeah. Yeah, I've got

a lot of stuff to catch up on. Yeah, I just got

the... It's not showtime, that's the target.

One person done.