Talking in Circles
2016 Geek Oscars

About this Episode
Hi, this is Kyle Higgins and you're listening
to the GeekCatch Radio Network. You are now on
the inside of what I like to call the circle
of trust. We are all connected in a great circle
of life. You know something Bert? What? I think
you and I are going in circles. It feels like
we're going in circles. The Circle is not complete.
When I left you, I was but the learning. Now,
I am the master. Because it's a circle. Yeah,
we heard about the circle. Yeah, I swear it really
would change. Hey, this is Chuck. This is Craig.
And this is Dan and Leon. Talking in circles
brought to you by the Geekcast Radio Network,
the podcast that is representing... The Geek
Oscars, once again. Yes, this year, we did it
once last year, we're doing it again this year.
The Oscars are coming out, but really, these
are the real Oscars, because we will be doing
the Geek Oscars, talking about different awards
for performances, to comic books, to miscellaneous,
create random stuff. You will not want to miss
it, but before we get to the Geek Oscars, how's
the week been going for you guys? Not too bad.
Didn't really get to do anything too awful exciting.
It's been sort of unseasonably warm here where
I am In Pennsylvania and nice don't jinx it for
me Chuck, right? I know and it's weird cuz like
It's February and it's usually like six degrees
and it's been like 56 last couple of days or
whatever So it's it's been pretty crazy. But
I did one funny thing happen I wanted to share
this fortune cookie that I got today with you
guys because it was really, really strange. Fortune
cookies are always crazy anyway, and they usually
tell you something that's not even a fortune.
It's usually like some sort of ancient wisdom,
you know, like some sort of old saying. And it's
like, well, that's not really a prediction. But
I finally got one that was a prediction and it
was back crap crazy. Open up the fortune cookie
and it says today you will meet a panda. Give
him noodles. Well. Um, so yeah, I was, I'm convinced
that, uh, someone was high at work that day while
they were printing these out. So I just thought
that was really funny because I actually got
one, you know, that was a prediction, but it's
literally like the strangest thing I've ever
read. They probably made thousands upon thousands
of those for that one person. That actually meets
that panda. It's going to be right, eventually.
Yeah. And you better be ready with noodles. I
mean, yeah, I don't. They don't seem like a noodle
eating bunch to me, though. Yeah, you know, they're
more a fan of the bamboo from what I hear. But
I thought it was funny that it says give him
noodles like it was super specific. Like like
like you're going to meet a male like do not
give your noodles to a female panda. Make sure
you check the genitals, Chuck, before you give
this panda noodles. You gotta check. Be like,
no, I can't give her my noodles, man. It's gotta
be a male. It's gotta be a dude panda. I'm not
being sexist. I'm just following what it says.
But then if you add in the classic, in bed, then
it's like, you'll meet a panda and give him noodles
in bed. And it's like, this is, yeah. And it
sounds even weirder. Greg, any weird fortunes
for you? No, I bit into my Coney Island, Texas
lunch, Texas wiener, and I did not see a fortune.
A lot of hot dog, a lot of chili and mustard,
but no fortune, thankfully. But that was very
delicious. You could probably put a fortune on
that. If you keep eating all these, you will
die soon. You will have a heart attack. You will
fart out your heart. You will soon meet a doctor.
Give him money. So yeah, I don't know my week's
been interesting. My my son has developed that
great skill of object permanence So what that
means is now that you know, if we leave the room
he gets upset that we're no longer there So he
starts crying the worst though is like now because
we're dropping off of him at daycare would be
no big deal like he'll drop will get excited
and do whatever at daycare, but now he's like
crying and you know trying to like look at you
and trying to like Not wanting you to leave and
it's uh, it's it's yeah, it's a little tough.
I'm not gonna lie. It's a little tough Daddy
stay You have no choice, Dan. You're just going
to have to quit your job and stay with it. Exactly.
We went to this little thing called Storyville.
It's actually kind of cool. If I was a kid, I
wish I had it. It was at the public library.
It was free. I'm all about doing the free now.
It's this mini little town, and they have a section
just for infants, which is cool. But it's going
to be great when he gets older because they have
this town, so there's a building that's a movie
theater. They have a house, a doctor's office.
It's a lot of good fun for the kids to have.
So I'm like, I kind of wanted to play myself,
but even though I had an infant, I really couldn't
use a lot of the rooms. It would just be weird.
But it was a good old time. But yeah, that was
pretty much it. Anyways, since this is the week
that we have the Geek Oscars, we kind of want
to get right straight to it. So we're going to
take a quick break. We're going to skip our Renewal
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evening, and welcome to the 2016 Oscars. Tonight's
host, Movie Revolt Dan. Thank you, thank you.
Yes, welcome to the 2016 Geek Oscars, the long
-standing two -year tradition that we are keeping
up once again. For those first time listeners,
we're gonna go through a couple different categories
and giving out awards for each of those categories.
They can range from performances to best type
of alien races to breakout performances of 2015.
And the way this all worked is pretty straightforward.
There are three nominees for each category. Greg,
Chuck, and I all had it a vote. We all voted
whoever had the most votes wins won and if there
was a tie and we all voted for someone separately
I pulled an iowa caucus and just used a flip
of the coin to claim the winner No, I ended up
going with my second choice and that's ended
up Who ended up taking the prize home, but that
didn't really happen all that often It was pretty
it was pretty interesting how the votes all tallied
out so Getting into our first category First
category is in the mode of performances and to
keep this clear with this being the geek Oscars
This isn't just stuff that happened last year.
No, we're reaching back. We're reaching back
to classic stories We're reaching back to classic
performances. This is this is just keep them
as a whole Last year we gave out rewards for
the best person and playing hope for the best
person playing Magneto this year though We are
giving out the award for best performance as
Superman Sorry. And the nominees are Christopher
Reeve. Brandon Ralph. I thought, hoped it might
still be there. Your home? That place was a graveyard.
I'm all that's left. Clark, the universe is a
big place. You don't know who's out there. And
even if you are the last, you're not alone. And
Henry Cavill. You let them handcuff you? Wouldn't
be much for surrender if I resisted. And if it
makes them feel more secure, then... What's the
S stand for? It's not an S. On my world, it means
hope. Well here it's an ass How about And the
winner is to no one's surprise Christopher Reed
I guess I'll start with you Chuck on this one.
Is it is it a shame that? The guy from smallville
wasn't even nominated. It's a great. Sorry Yeah
I was a little disappointed. Although I could
see why he's not considered on the greatest list.
He's my personal favorite, as far as nailing
that character. But Christopher Reeve, definitely
a close second for me. Loved him in all the movies,
even the one with the creepy nuclear man with
the fingernails. Christopher Reeve was still
good, still good. Brandon Routh, I liked, but
I like him better as the Adam. Yeah, I like him
better as the Adam too. I think he I think that
role like just fits him like he's goofy He's
quirky like I think it's just it's perfect for
him. But uh, I love Christopher Eve So Greg,
I know you're not the biggest Superman fan, but
do you even recognize the greatness that is Christopher
Reeves? Yeah, that's that's definitely why I
voted for him He's definitely the Superman that
I grew up with the Superman that I actually did
like when I actually did enjoy Superman a little
bit. So yeah, I went with him. Henry Cavill,
Cavile, whatever his name is. Henry Cavill! Thank
you, announcer dude. Yeah, he, I don't know,
he just, he just didn't even register Superman
to me. Not Brand Ech. Yeah, not Brand Ech. Thank
you, Joker. All right, all right, so we're moving
on to the next award and this award is Most underrated
performance in the comic book movie and the nominees
are Brian Cox in x2. I Used to think you were
one of a kind Wolverine I was wrong Alpha Merlina
in Spider -Man 2. one finger on her he'll do
that and thomas jane and punisher in certain
extreme situations the law is inadequate in order
to shame its inadequacy it is necessary to act
outside the law to pursue naturally This is not
vengeance. Revenge is not a valid motive. It's
an emotional response. No, not vengeance. Punishment.
And the award goes to... Thomas Jane as Punisher.
Nice. See I was you both all voted for Thomas
Shane III cast my vote for Brian Cox and x2 I
think I think he is quite good in that movie
though, though I'm not I can't deny Thomas Shane
makes a great punisher Chuck thoughts on Thomas
Shane coming away with the most unarated performance.
Do you feel like he is deserving? I Definitely
think he's deserving for whatever reason. I don't
feel like he gets a lot of credit for that movie
I think people just kind of glossed over it and
maybe because it's been done a few times. And,
you know, not long after a couple of years afterwards,
there was another one with is it Ray Stevens
or Stevenson? I can never remember. Stevenson.
Stevenson. OK. Which who I like, by the way,
I like him a lot, too. And now, obviously, I
have John Bernthal in the Daredevil series and
stuff, but I feel like Tom Jane kind of got.
brushed aside a little bit. And I really, really
enjoy that movie. And I think he did a great
job with just sort of getting the persona of
the Punisher and that brooding performance. I
just I really like what he did with it. Thoughts
on it, Greg? That's that's why I voted for him,
too. Alfred Molina is is definitely up there,
too, I think. And Brian Cox never really registered
to me, really, as that great of a character in
the X -Men movie. I don't know. He just really
didn't do that much for me. I thought Alfred
Merlina was really good in Spider -Man, but I
think Thomas Jane was definitely my favorite
Punisher. I really enjoyed that Punisher movie
that he was in. I wish there was a sequel to
that one. Dirty Laundry. Yeah, I haven't seen
that actually oh you gotta watch that dude We
really talked about it on like our second episode
two years ago. I know I'm sorry. Let's stop right
now The sad part is great. I I haven't watched
it yet either, so it's only like 10 minutes long
I know where I'm gonna find the time and it costs
so much money I went with warm cocks because
you know x -men 2 is one of my favorite on my
Marvel movies. And I think if you go back and
watch it, the guy holds his own, you know, he's
just this regular normal human dude, but he's
going against the entire X -Men and he makes
it work because of his performance. Like he can
go toe to toe with all these characters. I don't
know. I think he's I think he's a great actor.
I do like the chain that was over his face at
the end of the movie. That was a very weird,
odd choice with that chain going down the side
of his face. He's tied up to a helicopter with
chains said there's one randomly in the middle
of his face I do actually like him a lot in that
Dan as well He would definitely be my second
choice for that. I could see where you voted
for him All righty. Well now on the other end
of the spectrum as we kill the worst performance
in a comic book movie and the nominees are Arnold
Schwarzenegger and Batman and Robin If I must
suffer, humanity will suffer with me! I shall
repay that for sentencing me to a life without
the warmth of human comfort. I will blanket this
city in endless winter! First, Gotham, and then
the world! Excellent question. Though I wouldn't
call it a war exactly. That suggests both sides
stand an equal chance of winning. And Halle Berry
in Catwoman. You hear that? It's called silence.
That's all I ever wanted. Now keep it down. Thanks
for the party. I had fun. And the winner? I guess.
I don't know if you'd go with winner. I don't
know. And the winner of it is Arnold Schwarzenegger
and Dan and Robin. Yes, yes. I also voted for
him, Chuck. I need to destroy the Bat -Bird.
Yeah, it's hard to deny the awfulness that was
that character. It did not help that he had some
of the worst lines in the history of movies.
But it didn't help that he like I felt like the
other two actors that were nominated at least
tried to get in some kind of role. But I feel
like Arnold was just like, show me what I need
to say. And I'm just going to say it. Like I
do in every other movie like it there was no
trying with him in this I think there's hold
on there's two words in here that are not ice
puns Can we change that because I need ice puns
in every other word? So yeah, I actually I almost
went to January Jones just because there's so
much great actors around her that it's almost
she's so bad that she almost brings it down,
but yeah, there's there's no beating on Gordon
Schwarzenegger and Yeah, but she's so bad, she's
good. Except when she's eating her child's after
birth. Yeah, she does. She did that when she
had her kid in real life. There's something about
life. You can't hold that against her. It's gross.
Did she name her kid February? No, I don't think
so. OK. All righty, so we're gonna go next to
the best performance in a bad comic book movie
and the nominees are Chris Evans and Fantastic
Four. That was a joke. I was joking. Why are
you so down on me? You don't even know me. Actually,
I know you very well. I read your personality
profile. Confident, reckless, irresponsible,
self -obsessed, bordering on narcissism. Okay,
so you do know me? Hugh Jackman in X -Men 3.
You would die for them? No, not for them. For
you. For you. Save me. and Michael Clarke Duncan
in Daredevil. Wesley, did you know back in ancient
times they would cut the tongues out of their
bodyguards their first day on the job? You think
that's horrible, don't you? Because you don't
like the physical stuff. I do. And the winner
is Michael Clarke Duncan in Daredevil. Wow. Yeah,
so the interesting thing about this like this
was one of that we actually all voted for separate
ones So I went with my second choice, which was
mark Michael Clark Duncan. My my first choice
was actually Chris Evans, but you guys went with
Went other ways and then I went with I went I
went with MCD Yeah, so it was it was tough. I
think Hugh Jackman is quite good in in x -men
3 but I feel like he's just as good in x -men
1 and 2 so it was unfair maybe should have chose
someone else but Chuck I know you did not vote
for Michael Clarke Duncan. I know you liked Daredevil
so I don't know if that's because you thought
it was disqualified because it's not a bad movie
or are you a fan of his performance in that?
I think it I think that my thought process there
was um like you mentioned I did kind of like
that movie I actually didn't mind Affleck's performance
so much in that movie. So like, I looked at sort
of like I voted for Hugh Jackman in X -Men 3
because I thought he was the bright spot of X
-Men 3. There were so many things that they screwed
up and angered me so much over screwing up Juggernaut
and all these other characters. But I was like,
you know what? Hugh Jackman was the constant
in that movie. He was pretty awesome. So I guess
that's why I voted for him. Yeah, see I went
with I didn't go with Hugh Jackman because of
the reason the dance said that he was so good
in the first two and the third one it's just
Par Hugh Jackman being good in everything kind
of situation Yeah, I mean, I guess he does get
a little bit more like with his relationship
with Jean Grey, but still yeah Anyways to see
there's so good to be had in bad ex in bad movies.
So All right one more award for the performance
category, and we have the best performance by
non -superhero in a comic book. Emily Betrickerts,
Emily Betrickerts. I don't know who that is.
Felicity Smoke. Oh. Like I said, we didn't go
TV. I should have thought of that. But the nominees
for this are J .K. Simmons in Spider -Man. We
can barely get a glimpse of him. Oh, what is
he shy? If we can get a picture of Julia Roberts
in a thong, we can certainly get a picture of
this weirdo. Put an ad on the front page. Cash
money for a picture of Spider -Man. He doesn't
want to be famous, and I'll make him infamous.
And Michael Caine in The Dark Knight. Targeting
me won't get their money back. I knew the mob
wouldn't go down without a fight, but this is
different. They've crossed the line. You crossed
the line first, sir. You squeezed them, you hammered
them to the point of desperation. And in their
desperation, they turned to a man they didn't
fully understand. Criminals aren't complicated,
Alfred. We just need to figure out what he's
after. With respect, Master Wayne, perhaps this
is a man you don't fully understand either. A
long time ago, I was in Burma. My friends and
I were working for the local government. They
were trying to buy the loyalty of tribal leaders
by bribing them with precious stones. But their
caravans were being raided in a forest north
of Rangoon by a bandit. So we went looking for
the stones. But in six months... We never met
anyone who traded with him. One day, I saw a
child playing with a ruby the size of a tangerine.
The bandit had been throwing them away. So why
steal one? Well, because he thought it was good
sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything
logical like money. They can't be bought, bullied,
reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want
to watch the world burn. and Rosemary Harris
in Spider -Man. You'll never guess who he wants
to be. Spider -Man. Why? He knows a hero when
he sees one. Too few characters out there flying
around like that saving old girls like me. Lord
knows kids like Henry need a hero. Courageous
self -sacrificing people setting examples for
all of us. Everybody loves a hero. People line
up for him, cheer them, scream their names, and
years later they'll tell how they stood in the
rain for hours just to get a glimpse of the one
who taught him to hold on a second longer. I
believe there's a hero in all of us that keeps
us honest, gives us strength, makes us noble.
and finally allows us to die with pride. Even
though sometimes we have to be steady and give
up the thing we want the most. Even our dreams.
And the winner is... J .K. Simmons in Spider
-Man. Nice! Thoughts on his J .K. Simmons guck
in Spider -Man? Oh, I loved his character so
much. Oh, J .K. Simmons is hilarious. I honestly
think he was the perfect guy for that role. And
I've kind of like because of that, I've followed
him and other stuff now. And I just really enjoy
watching him. Like even he had like he had like
a small quirky role in Terminator Genesis. I
thought it was really amusing. All the farmers
insurance commercials. I think I find those hilarious.
I just love that guy. I think he's hilarious.
And he had the perfect like he had the perfect
voice for Jameson in Spider -Man. And like he
just he just did it so well. Greg, I think you
went with Michael Cain in Dark Knight. Do you
think he? I had to. It's Michael Cain. Well,
that's true. I mean, can't argue with Michael
Cain, right? Yeah, exactly. I do like J .K. Simmons.
He would definitely be a very close second for
me. Yeah, I went with Simmons just because he
was Every time he was on screen like he like
he made that character like I can't any at all
see anyone ever doing That character in live
-action again. I could someone see someone doing
Alfred again I mean it's gonna happen in the
next movie, but I can't imagine them I think
that's why they didn't even try to bother bringing
him into the amazing spider -man because it's
like unless you're gonna get JK Simmons why even
bother? Alrighty well last year we did a section
on action heroes this year. We're gonna do a
different genre with science fiction And our
first science fiction award is around most iconic
line and the nominees are may the force be with
you Hey Luke May the force be with you live long
and prosper Live long and prosper image of surac
father of all we now hold true Roads. Where we're
going, we won't need no roads. We don't need
no stinking roads. Hey Doc, we better back up.
We don't have enough roads to get up to 88. Roads?
Where we're going, we don't need roads. And the
winner is... Is there any question? May the force
be with you? That line is that movie, so. What
movie is that from? I believe, if I'm not mistaken,
it's from the Ewok movie. Is that the Ewok special?
Oh, yeah. I think they may have said it once
in the holiday special as well. Oh, you know,
it's from the movie Fanboys. You know, that's
where it is. Right. I did enjoy that movie. Ewok
Village people. All right. Any other thoughts
on me? I think it's self -explanatory. It's the
best line in the history of television and movies.
Man. All right. Moving on to the next category.
Coolest alien race and the nominees are Wookiees.
The droids have started up their main power generators.
And now the time is. Yes, sir. Klingons? Commander,
you're not eating very much. I'm not that hungry.
Is the food alright, Commander? It's delicious.
The tibius claw was excellent. I also enjoyed
this bregit lung. And the roque blood pie. Delicious.
Good. Then you'll also enjoy this. Isn't that
gah? Very good. You did some research on our
nutritional choice. Yes, but... It's still moving.
Gra is always best when served live. And Skrulls.
The invasion of the Skrulls is the greatest threat
this planet has ever faced. This is what the
enemy wants. To tear us apart with paranoia and
mistrust. If we're gonna make it out alive, we're
gonna have to keep our friends close and our
enemies even closer. You guys are gonna be cool,
right? Everyone just be cool! I can't believe
this is happening. We can't let this be the end.
The infiltration has begun. Immediate global
threat. Look out, Avengers. Fury, out. And the
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but Chuck, I know you want scrolls like I did
as well. Why are scrolls the coolest alien race?
Because they can shapeshift into whatever they
want. And they can secretly invade. Right, they
can. And have a really good story up until the
very end. I'm not digging the creepy chin thing.
They kind of got the Thanos chin going on in
every single... Every single scroll character,
but uh, I don't know. I just like the fact that
they there's super advanced race they can shape
change into whoever they want and even did some
really crazy experiments and creating characters
like super scroll and stuff who is Probably one
of me One of my favorite villains. I find him
pretty cool. So yeah, I when I was thinking back
I was thinking back to the like secret invasion
storyline where you have all these different
scrolls with like Cyclops's vision and you know
12 means claws and Like they're all like mimic
characters and it was insane what they can do.
So I thought that was really cool So that that
put him over the top, but it was biggest badasses.
I probably get with Wookiees, but For coolest
ones, I went I went scrolls. I don't know. I
couldn't go Klingons because I mean, every time,
I mean, every time I take my clothes out of the
dryer, I got to pull this thing off of the clothing.
I just I don't like it. Yeah. All right. Well,
we did best alien races, coolest alien races.
Let's go with best robot races. And the nominees
are. Cybermen, not dogs, because dogs are not
robots. Lesson learned. Get away from the machines!
Do you know what they say? Don't find them! Don't
shoot! Are they? They are the Cybermen. The Ghost
Shift will be increased to 100%. let's roll and
terminators my cp is intact but i cannot control
my other functions you don't have to do this
you don't want to do this desire is irrelevant
i am a machine Terminators. Greg, I know you
threw your love for Doctor Who. For those for
some transparency. I threw Daleks because I thought
Daleks are robots, but I guess I'm mistaken.
No, no, no, they're not robots. They just look
like it on the outside, but that's essentially
kind of like their spacesuit. But there is a
living creature inside. They kind of look like
Krang from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Ah nice,
we should have included him in something and
did not. Chuck, you voted for Terminators like
myself. You talked about Order of the Fortune
anchor with sunglasses and a cool jacket and
a sawed -off shotgun. Does that end the story
right there? Now actually, I didn't think of
Arnold right away. I sort of thought of those
glimpses you see of the future with all the T
-800s kind of marching across the landscape.
like because I was young when I saw the movie
I thought that was incredibly frightening to
see these scary looking terminators that have
like skulls because you know you could make a
robot and not make it look ugly but somehow they
made it look incredibly frightening Just for
shits and giggles. So I just thought that was
pretty cool. I like I love terminators I did
like I remember like terminator 2 came out when
we were kids and I ended up loving it and I got
tons of like terminator tours they had these
different lines of different terminators and
I don't I've always been a fan of fan of that
character so the other ones again cybermen i'm
not too familiar with uh but you know they're
from doctor who so there's some things going
for them there and even transformers autobots
are cool but you know i mean i don't know maybe
it's just the i'm thinking back towards the movie
and i shouldn't be but i give me terminators
over transformers any day of the week but i know
that's sacrilegious to say ecky gas radio but
what are you gonna do all right move on to the
next award which is Best Spaceship Captain and
the nominees are Han Solo. Not the local bulk
cruisers, mind you. I'm talking about the big
Karelian ships now. She's fast enough for you,
old man. We've made too many compromises already.
Too many retreats. They invade our space, and
we fall back. They assimilate entire worlds,
and we fall back. Not again. The line must be
drawn here! This far no father And Captain Kirk
I'm in command I could order this But I'm not
Because Dr. McCoy is right in pointing out the
enormous danger potential in any Contact with
life and intelligence as fantastically advanced
as this. But I must point out that the possibilities,
the potential for knowledge and advancement is
equally great. Risk. Risk is our business. That's
what this starship is all about. That's why we're
aboard her. You may dissent without prejudice.
Do I hear a negative vote? And the winner is,
make it so, Captain Luke Picard. Wow. Yes, I
know. I don't know how big a Star Trek fans any
of us are, but I know, Greg, you did vote for
Captain Picard. Yes, I did. What was your reasoning?
My reasoning was a... Kirk was just kind of goofy
like crazy. I didn't care I'm more of a Picard
guy if I'm going to Star Trek and I voted Star
Trek over Star Wars is because Han Solo is a
captain of a ship with two people Picard is the
captain of a ship with a whole shit ton of people
on it And I think it takes more a captain and
captaining skills to control all of those people
over Han Solo being a captain of him in a giant
Wookie so Chuck I know you voted for Han Solo.
So why do you think Han Solo was the best captain
out of all those three? I? Guess not much of
a reason just he's probably my favorite He does
know some maneuvers so he does he lists lazily
to the left So I figured that was enough to evade
pretty much anything I went through the same
kind of mindset that you did Greg. I think he's
I think Prefer Han Solo as a character if I'm
thinking yes ship captain. I'll probably go with
Picard I think he is less likely to get me killed
than Han Solo All right, move on to the next
category and that is best science fiction villain
and the nominees are Darth Vader Obi -Wan once
thought as you do You don't know the power of
the dark side I must obey my master I will not
turn and you'll be forced to kill me If that
is your destiny the xenomorphs from alien and
Biff from Back to the Future. And the winner
is... Darth Vader, of course Darth I'll start
with this one. It's actually I voted for I was
the only one that didn't vote for Vader I went
with a xenomorphs, but mostly because I don't
know what it is about those creatures I just
think they're really cool and The fact that they
bleed acid and have that awesome little mouth
thing and the face huggers and they burst from
their chest I don't know I find them to be like
these super intimidating awesome creatures, but
Darth Vader is Darth Vader so I can't really
deny him winning this Chuck, you happy Vader's
taking home the best villain crown for a science
fiction movie. Is it deserving? Yeah, I think
so. I will agree the xenomorphs are pretty badass,
but I feel like we're doing the badass bracket
right now. Flashback, major flashback. Vader's
pretty awesome though. Um, don't get me wrong.
Biff is definitely the most hilarious of three
choices. I agree with that. If he won this award,
he would like trip, fall over and land in a pirate
manure somehow. Somehow he would find manure.
Like even if he was in outer space on spaceship,
he would find a giant pile of manure somewhere.
But Vader can choke people like without touching
them. So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Greg, should Vader
won this award simply based upon his theme song?
Yes, he does have the coolest theme song ever
the only thing that was kind of taking me opposite
of Vader and choosing something else was his
whole Backstory with Anakin the the prequels
Kind of killed his vibe a little bit, but I still
think he's quite badass I can't disagree. I mean
Vader is one of the most common characters of
all time So it's almost unfair to put anyone
else in this but hey, we're gonna do it's how
it goes Alrighty moving on to the last award
in this category and that is most likely to survive
an attack from the predator Kind of a random
award but an important one when you think about
it. The nominees are Ripley from alien Get away
from her you bitch Chewbacca or Chewbacca And...
RoboCop. And the winner is... Chewbacca. And
this was actually one, again, we all voted for
separate ones. So I had to try to pick out which
I went with Robocop. I thought Robocop had the
best chance just because of that gun. I think
he can go toe to toe. But so I had to choose
between Ripley and the Wookie. And I think Ripley
is a great character, but I just didn't know
if she could. She has the strength and the might
of a Wookie. Not many do. So I think by default,
Chewbacca is running away from this. If anything.
Finally, Chewbacca is getting that medal he deserves.
We are the ones giving it to him Greg, I know
I know you voted for Ripley. So what was your
your stance on why she would survive the attack?
Well, she says she survived an alien attack.
So why couldn't she survive a predator attack
is as well. I think she's got a good record with
it. Plus, I thought Robocop would be kind of
slow in his attack on a predator. And Chewbacca,
I don't know why I didn't vote for Chewbacca,
really. I just thought Ripley kind of had the
experience. Yeah, I think that's fair. I think
that's fair for sure. But it's going to Chewbacca
and wirefully so. So already moving on to the
next section of these awards. And we're doing
once again, comic book awards in the first category.
We have most overused power when it comes to
comic books. And the nominees are. flight, healing
factor, and random energy blast. Which one of
those is the most overused power? The winner
is random energy blast. Yes. Chuck, why do you
think this is an overused power? I couldn't think
of too many people with a healing factor other
than like Wolverine and Deadpool and... A couple
other ones, but I didn't feel like it was to
the point that it was overused flight is obviously
there's a ton of characters that can fly, but
I think it's like Usually it's essential to That
character or whatever they're trying to do in
that moment But and I feel like energy blasts
like everyone has some sort of energy blast whether
they can do it on their own or whether they have
a weapon that can do it like it's just I don't
know like you look at like Bishop and And cable,
I know cable has other powers, but like they
have these giant futuristic guns that just shoot
these crazy energy blasts. It was huge in the
90s. Like everyone would have energy blasts coming
from their hands for no apparent reason. That's
why they needed all those pouches. That's where
they keep the energy blasts. I love Healing Factor
because yeah, because you do have Wolverine,
but you have other like Wolverine related characters.
Sabertooth, X -23, Deadpool, some even like some
characters like Like even like flash has like
an accelerated healing power which makes sense,
but I feel like there's I'm doing it in justice,
but I feel like there's even more and more characters
now all have some sort of healing factor In some
way which kind of gets a little bit annoying
But I can't really deny a lot of people have
just random energy blasts for no apparent reason
so But especially any cosmic character, but I
guess you know that's power cosmic for you Any
thoughts on that Greg? Yeah, I just thought the
other two work. I voted for energy blasts I thought
the other two were kind of passive powers were
kind of in the background of the character kind
of and I feel like energy blasts were kind of
more in -your -face kind of Type of power that
were just a little bit more annoying of being
used so much All right. Well, we're in election
season. So it makes sense comic book character
that would make the best president and the nominees
are Steve Rogers. Keep the fight between us Ultron
thinks we're monsters and we're what's wrong
with the world This isn't just about beating
him It's about whether he's right Tony Stark
Is it better to be feared or respected and I
say is it too much to ask for both? With that
in mind, I humbly present the crown jewel of
Stark Industries freedom line. It's the first
missile system to incorporate our proprietary
repulsor technology. They say the best weapon
is one you never have to fire. I respectfully
disagree. I prefer the weapon you only have to
fire once. That's how dad did it. That's how
America does it. And it's worked out pretty well
so far. The Clark Kent. That man won't quit as
long as he can still draw a breath. None of my
teammates will. Me? I've got a different problem.
I feel like I live in a world made of cardboard,
always taking constant care not to break something,
to break some water. Never allowing myself to
lose control, even for a moment, or someone could
die. You can take it catch a big man what we
have here is a rare opportunity for me to cut
loose and show you just how powerful I really
am And the winner is and I guess new comic book
president Steve Rogers with a clean sweep we
all go to Surprised at all about that, Greg,
that we all voted for the good old Steve Rogers?
Not really, because he has some great leader
capabilities. He kind of knows his character
is America. He's the representation in comic
book form. Plus with Clark Kent two goody two
shoes. I'm not sure if Superman is He's kind
of a solo guy for the most part if you ask me
and then who was the other character? We had
a Tony Stark He's already proven that he cannot
really lead too well because he's he was in charge
of shield once and that was kind of a Whole crazy
thing. It just it just led to Civil War. I mean,
yeah, come on. Yeah. Yeah Chuck did this come
down to you a choice between Captain America
and Superman? You know me too well Yeah, it did
I think I think what kind of swayed me was like
it seems like Steve Rogers could be more of a
Commanding personality sort of like he knows
how to keep people in line He's not afraid to
give orders with the military background and
various training. He's had I think Superman's
a good guy. He's got a great moral compass and
everything but I'm not sure he'd be as good at
sort of taking command of a situation and bossing
people around like a commander in chief would
need to do, you know, in those situations where
everyone is kind of losing their head and you
need someone to really take charge and tell people
what to do because they're not quite sure themselves.
So I think Steve Rogers is best suited for that.
Yeah, definitely. I'll just say ditto and we
can move on to the next Next award and what we
had best president what villain would make the
worst president and the nominees are the Joker
Didi? We're with you! Boys? We're with you! Bonk?
Oh right, dead. Didi be a lamb and sweep out
the trash. There's a good ghost. Lex Luthor.
You're going to kill me so that Superman can't.
I'm a well -known crackpot. The Justice League's
reputation will survive my actions, and Superman's
legacy will remain intact. Interesting plan.
Unfortunately for you, it's not really an option.
President. Foolish, faceless man. My campaign
is a farce. A small part of a much grander scheme.
president do you know how much power i'd have
to give up to be president and dr doom but i
am above all a reasonable man thus i have granted
your leaders one week to surrender to the rule
of doom or suffer total annihilation and the
winner or loser is The Joker would make the worst
president. I can't kind of disagree with that.
It was again a clean sweep here Chuck why do
you think the Joker would make a much worse president
than that of Lex Luthor or dr. Doom? Basically,
I could sum it up in two words complete chaos.
I Feel like Lex Luthor dr. Doom while evil and
after their own Selfish reasons are still very
smart men, very resourceful men. Most sane men.
Right. They may not be the most benevolent leader,
but they would certainly come up with plans to
make their country run efficiently. Of course,
it would meet their means, but it would still
be a form of leadership that would be very structured
and stuff like that. I feel like the Joker would
just be all over the friggin place and doing
absolutely nothing. that remember resembles coherent
thought. I just think you would have any plan
for anything. You would just be like just seat
of the pants, just flying around doing shit.
I don't know. I do think that'd be a great one
issue comic, though, just to see what that would
be like. Yeah. Yeah. I mean. The idea of the
Joker with the finger on the button. I think
that's that's scary. So you're along the same
lines, Greg. You think this joke? Yeah, definitely.
He's he's the most psychotic out of the bunch.
And it's you wouldn't know what was coming next
for him. I think with Dr. Doom or Lex Luthor,
you can kind of see where they're going, at least
and prepare for it with Joker. You'd have no
freaking clue. Yeah, very true. All righty. Next
award best. cover artist. By that we don't mean
people covering songs, but those actually creating
covers of comic books. The nominees are Alex
Ross, Steve Ditko, and Scotty Young. And the
winner is, in a clean sweep, Alex Ross. I tried
to when we created these categories, there's
a lot of great cover artists, but I went one
ones that we've all talked about at one point
here and there within this, uh, within this podcast.
So Greg, why did you end up, you're probably
the biggest artist out of all of us. What, what
is it about? I'm the biggest artist. I went with
Alex Ross because it's, I, you could picture
his covers, his artwork. being displayed huge
on a museum wall somewhere. With the others,
it would definitely have to be a more niche museum,
I think. More like a comic book museum. Still
great artists in their own respects. But I love
Scotty Young's artwork. I love Steve Ditko's.
Scotty is kind of more of an inside interior
work kind of guy for me. I still love his work.
I still love his covers. But I still picture
him more as interiors. And Steve Ditko, I kind
of think more cover, more interior artwork than
than covers, even though he has done millions
of covers, probably. But Alex Ross, he's definitely
the one that I could see in like a museum, like
whatever the museum is, it doesn't have to be
a niche kind of museum for him to be displayed
on the wall. Yeah. Chuck, question, this is kind
of a broad question, but anyone you would have
nominated that was not listed here with these
three artists? I think the first one that might
pop into my head is David Finch. Yeah. Really
love his covers. Also, actually thinking a lot
of like Andy Kubert, a lot of 90s X -Men stuff
that I was a huge fan of a lot of his covers.
I was shaking my head there, by the way, that
entire time. Yes or no, though. Shaking could
go either way. It's yes. I think a big one. Obviously,
everybody says Jim Lee. That's why I didn't really
want to say him. But I do like him. But I think
one that some people are probably screaming is
Todd McFarlane. But yeah, yeah. I mean, I like
his stuff, but I think like, you know, I think
I think Alex Ross is the is the pinnacle. I mean,
I really love all of his stuff, really, but.
You know, you've talked about Kingdom Come. I
like the Justice, that three part Justice series.
I thought those, that artwork was amazing. Oh
my gosh. Alrighty. Last year we did Best X -Men
Artist. This year award is for Best X -Men Writer.
And the nominees are Chris Claremont, Fabian
Niziezia. Good bless you. Josh Whedon and the
winner is because obviously Chris Claremont Because
Batman yeah, because you know, these are future
past dark phoenix saga. It was pretty pretty
awesome Greg same question to you that I gave
to Chuck any other X -Men writers that should
have been nominated on here that weren't I tried
I I included just we didn't cuz he one of my
Understandable now when I think X -Men I think
Chris Claremont, quite frankly, to be honest.
Stanley, maybe, but Stanley, like we mentioned
in past episodes, Stanley is great creator, writing
not that great, but he's still an icon, a legend,
but Chris Claremont is the one who made me love
X -Men, so. Yeah, and I thought too about Grant
Morrison. I know he's like, but I think you guys
read. He's he's a little crazy with this. His
story is in there. Get a little confusing. So
I went with the ones I thought could at least
create and create some tension. So and kudos
to Chris Claremont for creating a story in Days
of Future Past, a huge story in two issues. Yeah,
like like in a in the age where. Everything is
blown out of proportion now and it's like stretched
across the entire year. We have these huge crosses
He did an amazing story in two issues So that's
the end of the comic awards moving over to the
TV Awards the first award is best Marvel TV show
and the nominees are Daredevil Why don't we start
with what we know then? You were found in your
apartment with one Daniel Fisher, who appears
to be the victim of a homicide. And currently,
you're the only suspect in this page. Who the
hell are you guys? I'm Matt. He's foggy. Who
sent you? No one sent us. So what? You're just
a couple of good Samaritans? Today's just my
lucky day? I bribed a death sergeant with a box
of cigars. For his mom. Our practice is relatively
young, Miss Page, and we are aggressively pursuing
new clientele. You gotta stop giving best cigars.
She likes to smoke, man. It's a free country.
So how long have you been practicing law? Time's
up. It's 12 22 a .m. About seven hours. Agent
Carter. Procedure seven nine one. Isolate the
suspect and remove civilians from harm before
attempting arrest. I'm sorry, what's happening?
The man at the counter is Agent Mezner from Washington
DC. The man behind me is Agent Reese. SSR agents?
I need you to find a way to block the front door
so that no one else can come in. I'll do the
rest. I'd love to. Ten cents for a cup of coffee.
Leave it. Perhaps what happened to Hope has happened
before. Well, certainly if there are other people
who feel they have been controlled by this Kilgrave
character, they are more than welcome to contact
my office, but it is more likely that my client
experienced a psychotic break. Hope has no history
of mental illness, has shown no evidence since
- Trish, sounds like you believe this Kilgrave
is real. I believe it's naive to assume he isn't.
So yes, I think he's out there. And the winner
is, in a clean sweep, Daredevil. Any surprise
kind of seems like it's so we've talked about
Jessica Jones. We talked about Daredevil, but
It was you know, it's an awesome show. We actually
did an entire episode on it Go back and listen
to that hear our thoughts. It's great. So good
stuff. Yeah Alright, we'll move on to the next
one not much more to say with that one I think
and the next award is best DC television show
and the nominees are flash Grot... ...you...
...remember me? Caitlyn... ...always... ...kind.
Why did you bring me here? I don't understand.
How did I become Grodd? Oh. That's a long story,
Grodd. The dark matter from the particle accelerator
explosion. That's how this happened. Repeat.
Repeat? Arrow? I'm sure we have a lot of work
to do to prepare. I assume you brought a list.
Apologies, I didn't have time to translate that
from its original Aramaic. You know, if I knew
you were surrounded by so many pretty girls,
Oliver, I would have stopped by sooner. What
did Oliver find, this guy the Luxor? Oh, I'm
just glad that the latest person from Oliver's
past is not another gorgeous woman. I'm not even
gonna ask. You got my message. I'm so happy.
I'm her father, too. I hate to be the one to
say this, but what if something goes wrong? Oh,
don't worry. If things go wrong, then we'll all
be too dead to care. And Gotham. Yeah, all righty,
then. You see the big handsome fella staring
at you like you're fried chicken? Richard Zionist.
He's a millionaire. Got his own airplane, got
a boat with a hot tub on it. Trying to kill 25
people. Just for fun. So what? So, he likes you.
He wants to be your friend. Hmm, let me think.
No. A girl needs a good friend in here. See,
the guards, they don't care. They figure bad
things happen to bad people. They happen all
the time. And the winner is... Gotham. No. I'm
lying. It's Flash. Come on. I was going to be
like, what? Boy, you're cutting the Oscars. Yeah.
Again, we all voted for Flash. It's, I think,
head and shoulders above all the other shows.
So question, though, Flash versus Daredevil,
where are you guys going? Flash. I like the little
bit more optimistic, a little bit more fun. So
I'll go with Flash. See, I go Daredevil. I go
Daredevil. I will say Daredevil is. A much deeper
show. Yes, I think it explores. Like the psychology
of the characters and their story are probably
a lot more, but Flash is just a barrel of fun.
I just love it. Yeah, yeah, definitely. But both
are good shows. I think there is just more. Daredevil
that I was just jaw -dropping impressed by but
Already moving on to the next category Best villain
in television show and the nominees are zoom
and flash Nothing The days of the flash protecting
the city are over Hold the fire! Put him down!
Now what will you do without your precious hero?
Shoot that thing now! Kingpin in Daredevil. Mr.
Murdock is thinking of purchasing some art. He
was looking for some advice from a man of taste.
Well, that's simple. Buy whatever the lady tells
you. Thank you. Although we probably shouldn't
be talking, I believe, around opposite sides
of the Tennessee case. Oh, you are? Yes. The
rental properties I recently acquired from Mr.
Tully. I'm sure that will be settled to everyone's
benefit city has suffered long enough under the
burden of poverty and decay I believe we have
opportunities now Wilson mr. Murdoch is a customer
not a donor As I apologize for the hard sell
The city and its future Seeing Hell's Kitchen
to its fullest potential is very important to
me I Feel the same way and Kilgrave in Jessica
Jones. And the winner is, in a clean sweep, we're
gone with Kingpin in Daredevil. I'm guessing
chuck this came. I know you were a huge fan of
zoom. Was it tough going with kingpin over over
daredevil? We're sorry. Yeah over zoom I I originally
thought uh zoom but what changed my mind was
zoom really isn't well established yet we've
only kind of seen him a couple times and uh I'm
very excited to see where they take that character
and see where he ends up. But we saw a really
big um Story arc with Kingpin and we sort of
saw him develop into the character that he is
now and I just really liked the way that they
the right way that they did it did that and Vincent
D 'Onofrio I think did an awesome job from like
Exploring his personal life and how it intertwines
with his business life and it's just I really
thought it was Amazing. So zoom has quite a ways
to go if he wants to be at that level, but I
will say zoom is more terrifying than Kingman.
Yeah. Well, yeah, definitely different types.
When it looks at just Zoom's like incredible
power with Kingman's just flat out crazy. I mean,
it's Zoom. I just waiting for Zoom to crash someone's
head in a car door. That's that's all you know.
Seven hundred times in a second. Yeah, exactly.
All righty. Moving on to. best male performers
in a comic book show and the nominees are Grant
Gustin and Flash. Wetworth Miller in Flash. You've
seen what I can do. You know that I can stop
you. You want to keep pushing your luck? Go for
it. But from here on out, no one else dies. If
you're as good as you say you are, you don't
have to kill anyone to get what you want. That's
true. Stop on top of that. He can take an unbelievable
amount of punishment without one damn complaint
Glass parts of Catholicism. So what I'm supposed
to take it on faith. I'm on the right side of
this You don't carry a mass man bleeding to death
into your apartment on faith You knew which side
you're on the moment you found me And the winner
is Charlie Cox in Daredevil I was kind of surprised
by that. I know Greg you went with Charlie Cox
like me. What was your What did you enjoy about
his performance as Daredevil? I think he definitely
took Daredevil totally in a way that we haven't
really seen him before. I think he did well with
the whole blind thing because I think that adds
a whole another layer of challenges to it than
just straight out acting in a role. I think that
definitely gives a challenge. Plus, I didn't
know who the person you were talking about in
Flash was. Captain Cold. Was captain Colts. All
right He's a lot. He's I mean if you've not watched
what some legends of tomorrow. He's a lot of
fun in that show He's just it's it's a very kind
of he's he's funny, but he's kind of monotone
I'm not sure if that takes a lot to act I'm not
an actor, but it's I think that just the challenge
of acting like you're blind and everything and
pulling off Doing miraculous things while you're
blind is kind of a hard thing to do Chuck a little
sad that Grant Gustin didn't walk away with this
award Absolutely, nothing to take away from the
other guys, but the reason I went with Grant
Gustin I just think he's absolutely perfect for
the flash roll Even from the first episode I
saw him in the show. It's like that's that's
Barry Allen like he's He's goofy. He's quirky.
He's joking around. He's always smiling Even
when things are pretty serious, he's usually
got a good sense of humor about it. And I think
he just he portrays Barry Allen really, really
well. Not to take away anything from the other
guys. I really love everything that the other
two guys are doing as well. Like you said, Wentworth
Miller's is fantastic and Charlie Cox did a great
job, but something about Grant Gustin fitting
that role perfectly. It's like it's kind of like
a Professor Xavier with Patrick Stewart type
of thing. It's just like it's like yep, perfect
Already moving on to the next Category now, it's
the women's turn best female performance in a
cone Emily bet records in era Unfortunately,
she was not nominated. Maybe she should have
been but the nominees actually are Haley Atwell
in Agent Carter Dr. Wilkes has designed a containment
chamber to stabilize himself, but he needs a
sample of zero matter. I intend to get that sample
from Whitney Frost. Okay. The best chance that
we have of getting close to Whitney without being
detected is her husband's campaign fundraiser
tomorrow night at the MacArthur Grand Hotel.
Not an easy ticket to get. Howard Stark donates
money to all the political candidates to ensure
good favor with whomever wins. So Mr. Jarvis
has two tickets secured. Of course he does. We
can modify this vacuum syringe from the SSR to
get the sample of zero matter. We use the crowd
to our advantage, we get close enough to puncture
her skin, and then we make a hasty exit without
any fuss. Like I said, he was a nice guy. We
met at the Three Roads bar on 49th Street. We
had a few drinks, and the next thing I remember
is waking up on the floor of my apartment covered
in blood. His blood. No, I'm not stupid. I know
how that sounds. But I'm telling you, we met
at the bar. We had a few drinks. And I don't
know what happened after that. It wasn't me.
Please. Please, you have to believe me. I didn't
kill him. I believe you, Miss Page. And Kristen
Ritter in Jessica Jones. New York may be the
city that never sleeps, but it sure does sleep
around Not that I'm complaining Cheaters are
good for business a Big part of the job is looking
for the worst in people Turns out I excel at
that Clients hire me to find dirt and I find
it which shouldn't surprise them, but it does
Knowing it's real means they got to make a decision
one do something about it or two keep denying
it Shoot the messenger Tell me I'm getting off
on ruining their already shitty lives Option
two rarely pans out And the winner is Haley Atwell
in Agent Carter who's really I guess the second
place to Felicity, but anyways Greg besides your
love for Felicity. What are your thoughts on
Haley Atwell in Agent Carter? I think she it's
like Chuck said with Grant Gustin. I think she
just was made for that part and everything. And
she's the one that really makes that show for
me. And she's one of the reasons that I view
that show. She's one of the ones that makes it
as great as it is. So yeah, Kristen Ritter, I
thought did a good job. It wasn't anything that
really stood out in my mind, to be quite honest.
Chuck any reaction to the Peggy Carter or Haley
at well winning this award. Yeah, I Totally agree
with that. Obviously I voted for but I got just
a bit of a crush on her I got a bit. I like her
a lot and Like I mentioned before too I like
how she could switch between the two accents
like the British and the English like seamlessly
and You know, I love a woman that can do voices,
you know Yeah, it's it's like I don't know it'd
be like mystique and like The Terminator, I don't
know Mystique Terminator. Yeah It's getting weird
here tonight. It's just like two, you know, two
people that can imitate any voice like Into the
Terminator in that way I could I can connect
with him, you know, I have somewhat of a bond
with him because of that, you know All right
Well, we're moving on to the last category the
last section of tonight with the 2015 awards
awards that are directly related to 2015 the
first award is Their biggest breakout star in
2015 the nominees are Michael B Jordan from Creed
Daisy Ridley from that little movie called Star
Wars. And Charlie Cox in Daredevil. And the winner
is, in a clean sweep, Daisy Ridley from Star
Wars. Chuck, I know she doesn't do voices, but
I still think you're a fan if I'm not mistaken.
I am. I really like her. She's not Haley at well,
but uh. What if she does do voices and that'd
be crazy? That would be crazy. That would be
quite a... Wow. Boom. I think she was incredibly
charming in Star Wars. I was pleasantly surprised
of what she brought to that role. Like it was.
So like it's just a weird side that I didn't
expect from like the hero of the story Like it
was it was interesting the way she did that character
So, um, I didn't go with Michael B Jordan because
I felt like he already kind of was a star a little
bit Yeah figure out like do we go with John Boyega,
but I'm like, I don't know I figured try to spread
the love a little bit Yeah, Creed was like sort
of a breakout thing. So, I mean, I could see
that. But I like I had no clue who Daisy Ridley
was. Yes, I was like, yeah, definitely. She think
truly breakout star for sure. She did nothing
before. Now she's a huge star. So. All righty.
Now, biggest letdown of 2015. And the nominees
are Fantastic Four. Terminator, Genesis. And
Supergirl. And the winner is. Fantastic four
Yeah, I'll go on this one because actually around
this time last year I wrote a nice article trying
to explain why fantastic four might actually
be good Yeah, yeah, I I ate major crow on that
one. It's a good try Dan Yeah, I tried really
hard and the movie came out and now I regret
everything so Unfortunately, just so what I'm
saying don't listen to me. So that was a huge
letdown You know, I think we talked about before
we weren't nearly as letdown on Terminators Genesis
as many people and I think Chuck you're indicating
that Supergirl has gotten better So maybe it
shouldn't be on the list either. So I don't know
but Wasn't there something else that we talked
about with those a disappointment Like a show
maybe maybe I'm thinking of Gotham. I don't know
Just because of the hype over the hype for Gotham
before it came out. But but you like you've said
it's getting a lot better. So. All righty. Next
category. Best action sequence of 2015. The nominees
are Daredevil's hallway fight. Flash versus Arrow
fight. In the Ant -Man train sequence, and the
winner is. Daredevil's hallway fights. Yeah,
I think that's kind of the moment that cemented
Daredevil or Netflix. Yeah, it's kind of like
launched. It's like, oh, yeah, this is going
to be something different. So Greg, you happy
this is winning? Oh, yeah, because that like
blew my mind when I saw it. I'm like, oh, wow,
they're doing this. That's really cool. That's
even better than a lot of movie action scenes
that I've seen. Yeah. Chuck's thoughts? Just
the sheer amazement when I was watching that
scene and then. Kind of learning that it was
done in one take where they had you know stunt
doubles and dashing in and out of rooms and stuff
and pulling that off just the the exhaustion
that would be involved in a five -minute fight
scene without stopping and and It just completely
amazed me after like after I learned that going
back and watching it again It's like, oh my gosh,
like how did they do this? Like it's so awesome
Yeah, I remember the next day like after daredevil
came out like that was just everywhere Everyone
just that video just that fight. It was insane.
So yeah well deserving Alrighty moving on to
the biggest surprise of 2015 So spoiler alert,
I guess for everything 2015 related. So you're
warned, uh -huh biggest surprise in age of ultron
vision lifting major Mjolnir Mjolnir Mjolnir
Yeah. Mew Mew. The death of Han Solo. Wait, what?
Oh, sorry. And the new Batman from D .C. Jim
Gordon becomes Batman. And the winner is. Somewhat
surprising to me, Vision lifting Mjolnir. It
was, again, another category where we all voted
for separate ones. So I ended up going with my
second choice, which was Revision. But I voted
for, originally, the death of Han Solo. And I
think you guys voted otherwise. So anyways, so
that ended up going, becoming the most surprising
moment of 2015. So I don't know. Any thoughts
on that winning? I didn't go with the Han Solo
because I kind of. I don't know. I kind of had
a hunch that he was wasn't going to make it through
this movie before I see it. So especially once
he writes, he walks on the catwalk. Oh, yeah.
As soon as he steps out of the catwalk, I'm like,
he's dead. I wasn't even man walking. I wasn't
even fooled by any of it either. How like, you
know, Kylo's like playing all the. You know,
I'm struggling and you know, please help me come
I wasn't I'm like now you're gonna kill him You're
gonna do it aren't you you're gonna add them
All righty moving on to we got two more categories
left The the second the last category we have
most improved from 2015 So the stuff that we
didn't was did not meet standards in 2014 But
things that seem to get better in 2015 and the
nominees are Gotham Agents of S .H .I .E .L .D.
and A .R .R .O. And the winner is A .R .R .O.
for its improvement in its most recent season.
I know, Greg, you are behind, but I know you
have been catching up with Gotham. I think you've
been, if I'm not mistaken, thinking that it actually
maybe deserves this over A .R .R .O. I think
that was kind of me looking at the page going
eeny meeny miny moe. So you're like an Oscar
voter is what you're saying. Kind of, yeah. But
yeah, I thought Gotham definitely improved. I
thought all of them kind of improved. I'm not
totally caught up on everything, so I wasn't
quite sure where to vote in this. I was kind
of confused on where I should vote with being
so behind on things. Yeah, again, just like I
see we're we're keeping the tradition alive with
the Oscars not watching just voting on what goes
on but uh Chuck you went with arrow as well.
Have you been more impressed with this most recent
season? Yeah, definitely like season three was
kind of a letdown in a lot of areas and I think
only because of its inconsistency like there
were a lot of high points that I did enjoy but
it was so up and down like from week to week
and He had boring episodes and things that weren't
adding up. And I just felt like it was just too
up and down and inconsistent throughout the year.
And this year I've been liking a lot better.
Liking some of the different angles they're taking
and things. I'm not crazy about Damien Dark's
character. So that is a little bit of a disappointment,
but I think overall consistency of episodes and
everything, I think it is very much improved
from last season. I too feel a little bit ashamed
as I am not caught up with each of the shield
but I've heard this recent season has been pretty
great so maybe we gave it to the wrong thing
who knows but that's what we do here so alrighty
well it all comes down to this the last award
the ultimate geek moment of 2015 and the nominees
are Star Wars the Marvel Netflix series and The
DC TV mega crossovers and the winner is Star
Wars of course When you think about it last year
one of the ultimate game moments nominees was
just Star Wars trailer The actual movie coming
out is gonna be of course a huge winner But I
know Chuck you went with the DC TV crossovers.
Is it just thinking just? Just a slight more
geekiness than that of the Star Wars movie Yeah,
I think for me, for whatever reason, I just get
super geeked out with all these crossovers. And
it's a gimmick, but it's working on me. I guess
with Star Wars, like. I mean, I felt like everyone
else was more hyped than I was, like I was excited
for it and everything. And don't get me wrong,
I was very happy with the movie, but it was very
much the. I gotta be careful how I word this
so I don't get death threats, but it was very
much like very much the same movie as A New Hope
and in a lot of ways so I was kind of like it
was it was very cool geek moment but I'm I kind
of was like I feel like I've seen this before
and the DC crossover stuff is like it's just
this whole new area for me and you know with
these awesome new characters and everyone's uh
mingling together and using each other's powers
and creative ways and stuff so i just i just
get a little bit more into that just a tad i
enjoyed those i think to me is the start the
experience of star wars was on Another level.
It's just it's hard to compete I think but it's
just like this actually coming out just actually
being a thing at being Reminiscent of the original
Star Wars. I think it wasn't a downfall for me.
I think it's being having that feeling I think
almost enhanced it in a way. But uh, yeah, anyways,
there's just all abundance of great things and
The normal Netflix stuff. I thought it's been
great Daredevil was freaking amazing. So but
Greg any thoughts on those? Yeah, I just felt
like with Star Wars it was kind of like it felt
like everybody was just holding their breath
and then finally it came out and it was just
like a big release for everybody like oh my god
Finally, so that's that's kind of why it went
with Star Wars Yeah, so great year in 2015 for
Geek Dumb as we just went over. But what we would
like to do is get to hear your thoughts on the
Geek Oscars, where we get it right, where we
get it wrong, who should be hosting next year.
We'll see if we can get Seth MacFarlane. I don't
think he'll be hosting the regular Oscars anytime
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guard does sound like the dude from Seinfeld
if I'm not mistaken Yes John O 'Hurley. Yeah,
we also did family few Watch different families
huge He actually gives the right person the award.
Exactly. Are you gonna play or pass? We're gonna
play. Okay, pass or miss? He really did feel
bad about that. Who cares? It's universe, let's
be honest. I put a funny thing up on Facebook
after the Broncos beat the Patriots. I have a...
this picture of Steve Harvey and at the bottom
I wrote, good luck to the New England Patriots.
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