2015 Year in Review & 2016 Preview

Hi, this is Kyle Higgins and you're listening

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When I left you, I was but the third. Now I am

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that's back, and better than ever, for 2016.

Uh, yes, we've had a little bit of... and he's

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back he's back i've heard that i've heard he's

back and the incredible singing greg is back

as well yes yes he's chomping at the bit in order

to start singing mini mini songs you're gonna

get a lot of a lot of greg this episode but what

we're doing today is actually we're gonna do

a little bit of a look back at the year of 2015

kind of what we enjoyed this past year and then

also doing that it feels apt to look forward

in what's coming up in 2016 there's a lot going

on, comics -wise, TV -wise, movie -wise, a lot

of good geekness in store for sure, but before

we get to all that, how's your week been going?

My week's been going alright, I guess. Nothing

really special going on. I've been reading and

playing Fallout 4. I have been consumed by it.

I'm not sure which order episodes are going out,

but I kind of revoke my review of Fallout from

the last time. I am completely getting into it

now. It's getting a lot better. I'm getting used

to it and everything. So disregard what I said

in the last episode. I don't like the building

still, but it's still a lot of fucking fun. I

am entrenched in it are you still are you still

uh entrenched in battlefront or is that coming

going I play that a lot, too. It's just I only

have so much time in a day. Oh, come on. I do.

I do play it every once in a while. I played

it last Saturday with my brother. But he's now

that I've been playing a little bit more fallout,

he's leveled up a little bit higher than I am,

which is kind of sad. But I do play that quite

often, too. I'm hooked on that. I'm hooked. And

it's been killing my comic book reading. I get

my order for comics for the week. Can I have

trouble making my way through it because of the

video games? I'm in I mean story of our life

story of our life How things going with you?

Okay, I guess You know had some good some bad

here and there We had a unfortunately had a death

in the family So that was kind of a rough week

for the family and everything and my aunt passed

away Most definitely sorry to hear that. That's

never that's always tough. Yeah, appreciate it.

It was she was young was unfortunate kind of

a sudden thing but um so it was it was definitely

a rough week but uh we have a big family and

we stuck together and you know we'll be all right

so uh i mean other than that i don't know just

trying to uh catch up on watching stuff that

I've been neglecting lately and catching up on

all the football news and coaching changes and

Giants Giants just signed a new coach today.

So yeah, and then you I'm sure you're ecstatic

that you got a Joe Philbin That's the offensive

coordinator. Oh Or you might get him. Well, I

feel like with Ben McAdoo he'll probably be running

most of the offense would be me my assumption

but I just find it interesting that Tom Coughlin

was uh was uh interviewing with the Eagles and

I was like, you know what I actually I kind of

don't like what the Giants did to him. I felt

like they really Yeah made him the scapegoat

when it was clearly Jerry Reese's awful drafting

that's been killing the Giants for such a long

time. Did you see the thing when Coughlin walked

off the stage and he totally snubbed the guy

when he walked by him? I don't know if that was

on purpose, but he did not want to leave, but

the Giants felt like they needed to make a change

and it should have been Jerry Reese because he's

an awful GM, but what are you going to do? I

don't know. I mean, Coughlin's... Coughlin's

quite possibly a Hall of Fame coach, and he's

got two Super Bowl rings. And as my cousin pointed

out to me, don't forget what he did with Jacksonville

when they started as an expansion team. He took

them pretty far right off the get go. So, yeah.

Yeah, and it's definitely good coach. Yeah, and

which I wasn't surprised I was getting interviews

and I guess he either withdrew his name from

the Eagles So I don't know but if he goes there

I'll hope for the best for them him only me actually

kind of root for the Eagles a little bit which

feels dirty which definitely feels dirty I Actually,

I have I have some big news like you guys know

that the Powerball was this past week and I did

not win it I did I won it I won four dollars.

I got the Powerball number right, which I feel

like is the most important number. So why is

it? It says power in front of it. You get money

for the Powerball? You get you get it's think

four bucks if you get the Powerball number correctly.

Oh, OK. I also got four bucks then. Awesome.

You if you did that extra like if you paid the

extra dollar for your ticket then it's actually

eight dollars or what have you? Okay, yeah the

most important for yeah, I didn't I didn't fortunately

when I win a billion dollars I studied all night

and nothing so that's what I get I only bought

I only bought one ticket and It was weird like

I Have so close on like all of the numbers like

Four of my numbers were like one digit off really

really close i'm like oh man i guess the i guess

my psychic waves were just slightly off that

night did you pick your numbers did you let the

computer pick i did i picked my own yeah yeah

see i don't i read the odds are better if you

let them pick them so i figured you know even

the only reason the odds are better is because

that many people use the quick picks yeah so

it says like like 80 percent of the people do

quick picks and like 80 percent of the winners

Are from QuickPix, but that's because 80 % of

people use QuickPix. Partially is because people

Tend to like go with the like numbers under 29.

So they ignore the figure numbers. I just said

I studied all night and it didn't help. I just

picked them completely random. So I'm you know

anything from 1 to 69 is I Don't even care. I'm

picking it. Would you hear about there is a This

restaurant in New Jersey, and I guess like all

the waiters and waitresses Got together and they

got tickets and they're reading off the numbers

and they were getting them all right And they

got them all right and they're like freaking

out getting excited and then they realized they

were reading the numbers from the previous drawing

Not the current one. So it was then a bucket

of sadness as they realized that they were not

trillionaires. So It was a good time it was a

good time but uh Since I did not win the Powerball,

I did try to soak my sadness in some good television

watching, and I've been watching, I actually

cut up with, if you look back in 2015, one of

the most talked about shows, definitely the end

of year in 2015, which was the documentary series

on Netflix making a murderer. I don't know if

you guys have heard of it at all. I saw a trailer

or something on YouTube, an ad for it. It looked

quite interesting. It's about some guy that was

falsely accused of rape and then got accused

of murder or something. Is that correct? Yeah,

it's this guy in Wisconsin and it starts off

where he is arrested for rape in the early 80s.

And about 20, 16 years later. he is set free

because the DNA evidence shows that he was not

the murderer and it goes into like why he was

selected and a lot of it was based upon like

the knowledge of his family like his family is

one of the more poor families in the neighborhood

and they own this junkyard so there's a lot of

like people within the community that kind of

uh have negative feelings towards them so that

kind of went into it but then he comes out and

he's lauded as this victim but then he becomes

the lead suspect in this murder case of this

person and What makes it interesting is now knowing

that he was set free There's this huge investigation

over to if he actually did it was he being set

up and it's this I think it's ten issues or ten

issues I've been talking about comics a lot.

You can't tell a 10 episode series and it's fascinating

Just just what what happened was made over 10

years It was interesting like they tried to shop

this around to like HBO Networks and none of

them picked it up Netflix eventually did it's

it's really fascinating in that end It I think

in a lot of people will compare it to like the

jinx that came earlier this year similar situation

I think the jinx is probably better but different.

It's almost the opposite of the jinx and how

it's presented but Honestly though like I know

a lot of people were like signing petitions like

trying to get it trying to have people look into

this case and I will say is After watching it

like I think it's kind of shady a lot of the

stuff that went on But I kind of think the guy

did it He's just really creepy and there's something

about him. I'm like, I think I'm pretty sure

he did it Maybe they falsified some few things,

but I'm almost positive, but I don't know it

is really good I didn't I don't want to get anything

away, but it's If you're into true crime documentaries,

definitely check it out. It's on Netflix. It's

10 episodes and my wife and I kind of finished

it within two days or so. It's just one of those

things. A quick addiction that now I'm looking

for more. Greg, I believe you've also finally

finished a Netflix series, if I'm not mistaken.

Yes, I have. I finally finished Miss Jessica

Jones. And overall, it was good. Definitely nowhere

near as good as Daredevil. I thought if you don't

know, it's based off of Brian Michael Bendis.

So, yeah. Well, I wasn't judging it too much

off of him. Because it's it's only based off

of what he did. So there's definitely probably

changes I never read the the series back in the

day when she appeared on the vendors. I was like,

who the hell is this chick? I was the same way.

I figured like because I was out of comics for

so long that she was a character I was just not

aware of. But apparently, you know, yeah, kind

of come out of nowhere. So yeah, and it was a

good series. I loved a lot of the actors in it.

I thought the acting was very well done I liked

the lead and I'm Drawing a blank on the leads

name right now, but my one of my favorite people

is in there David Tennant who was a doctor at

one point for a doctor who he's my favorite doctor

So it was kind of hard a little hard for me to

overlook him being the doctor Even when he was

being mean. I'm like, oh, he's the doctor. He's

he's a nice cheery guy He there's there's something

going on there that brings them up, but I thought

his acting was very well done. I thought there

was a lot of interesting stuff going on. Oh,

I also liked Luke Cage. I thought he was one

of the best parts. A lot of sex between him and

Jessica Jones. I don't think I'm giving anything

away with that. A lot of sex, but story was interesting.

I kind of got into it, but then I kind of petered

off towards the end. It kind of falls into a

Brian Michael Bendis trope, if you ask me. Interesting

concept, but the ending was kind of just blah.

It's tough to tell if they were doing a two -page

spread with it because it's a TV show and not

a comic book. That's something I think Bendis

does is add a lot of nice fancy artwork in there

and make it visually appealing, which the show

was very visually appealing. And I thought the

villain was somebody that you could really hate,

even though I loved him anyway. And Carrie Anne

Moss was great as the... Douchebag lawyer. I

thought that was great. I love the best friend

like seriously. I just love the characters That

was the main thing about this show that I liked

the story on the other hand felt a little drawn

out a little bit like it was repeating itself

and The ending was just kind of fell flat for

me I think it wasn't anything interesting. I

think it was a few episodes too long Yeah, I

like the I like the actual end -to -end kind

of the final confrontation and like how that

plays out But I think I didn't understand it

too much Maybe you could explain it to me a little

bit when we're off air because I I'm not sure

if I was Fully paying attention to it or not

because I was also playing Minecraft at the same

time. So Yeah, I'm a five -year -old now everybody.

I'm sorry but Yeah, that that felt a little flat

for me. I'm not sure if I missed something or

what. So you'll have to explain that to me. But

I thought it fell into the the Bendis trope.

And I tried to look at it differently because,

hey, when I first started the series, I really

didn't know that it was a Bendis thing. But I

found out and I still was trying to distance

myself from knowing it was him. And it still

kind of fell into his tropes, I think. I was

satisfied with the ending for sure. I do think

it could have gotten there a little quicker though.

Yeah, definitely as as I watched the show I felt

like I felt myself become less and less excited

about it, but I still wanted to like just just

watch it just to see how it ended. Yeah, it almost

felt like it felt like a chore to me to like

finish the last few episodes. I'm like, oh, I

got to see how this ends, but I don't really

want to watch it. It's always like, oh, we caught

him. Oh, he escaped. Oh, we got him. He escaped.

And they kept kind of repeating that same thing

over and over again. They really didn't do anything

new throughout the series. There were a couple

minor character things that were interesting.

I didn't care for the cop that becomes part of

their crew. Yeah, it was there was a weird character

and change in there I'm not sure if that was

something from the comics that they tried to

put in there with it But it just felt like a

weird change to me and I really don't understand

why they did it by the way Jessica Jones's friend

is super adorable I'd I'm the pervy guy here.

So I had to put that out there see what I liked

about the ending when they tried to test his

morality and almost kind of see him Try to see

the other side of using his powers in another

way I guess without trying to get anything away

When he was dealt dealing with that hostage crisis

like I really like that was interesting, but

the very ending Yeah, I don't know but Chuck

anything you wanted that I mean the story overall

like there was definitely some good writing in

it, but I Got to be honest like if if I were

to be honest with myself I don't think I would

recommend this show to someone. Like, I don't

know. At least maybe it's just my taste, but

I found it kind of deeply disturbing. I think.

Do you have a favorite part, Chuck? Like, I thought

the the the whole thing with the druggie neighbor

was was kind of interesting. I do like his I

do like his arc, like how he came around, like

he. He might be my favorite character, actually.

I think was his name Malcolm. He's former Power

Ranger, if I'm not mistaken. Oh, really? Yeah.

One of the one of the late later ones long after.

Oh, OK. That's that's after they start stopped

putting like black people and the black Power

Ranger and Asian people and they as a yellow

Power Ranger. It took like, you know, because

I was totally going to guess that he was the

Black Ranger. Yeah, and they and they stopped

putting jealous people in the Green Ranger suit.

Yeah. Terrible joke. I don't know. I mean, there

was some things I liked. I liked Malcolm's character

and I did like. Trish Walker, Patsy Walker, which

is, you know, she's Hellcat, right? Yeah, I figured

that. Yeah. Which I was really hoping they would

give her like, you know, more of a like Avenue

to become her own hero, but maybe maybe they

have plans for that later on. I don't know. But

that was pretty cool. But just there's a lot

of stuff I didn't like about it. It was like

total turnoff, like just disturbing things like

the way he made people kill themselves and stuff.

I'm like, this is messed up. Like, what the frig?

See, that's kind of what I really liked about

it. Honestly, I liked how it I don't like where

it took me like. It's I don't know. I don't like

that stuff. It's just it's disturbing to me and

it's just I do like that stuff even though it

makes me very creepy and I am I'm Like the the

devil to Chuck's angel on those kind of things.

I did kind of like that But there was just other

stuff going on that didn't do it for me. So I

like how it all Marvel stuff it did go after

some themes and some ideas that Were much more

adult compared to other marvel stuff and some

of that was disturbing but I think that's I think

the way they were able to go after that with

the purple man character was was intriguing and

his yeah his what you would see when you have

this character that um, you know, you know has

a power professor behavior but has no moral compass

and what it takes to get him there and uh, the

effect it can have uh, I don't think you need

to go that dark though to get the story. Like

I didn't think it served any purpose going that

far off the deep end. I don't know. I don't know.

Maybe I'm desensitized, but I didn't feel like

it was that off the deep end. And I think those

types of topics, there's a lot of interesting

conversations or interesting evaluations or thoughts

you can Kind of get by going after things like

psychotic mind of a character like that But maybe

there was elements where it was shock value,

but I don't know. I never felt that I felt like

it Was used in an interesting way that made it

compelling for me. I don't know. I just I can't

I can't really see it that way but Just I don't

know. I can't explain it. It's just really really

strange like different from anything I've ever

seen like I'll tell you another thing. I didn't

like was the the creepy twins, Ruben and Robin.

That was really weird. Yeah, they were bizarre.

Interesting part of the story, I guess, but that

was kind of creepy. They creeped me out. Oh,

and for all the Whovians out there, I wonder

if anybody else got really excited when David

Tennant started saying clever a lot towards the

end of the series. and you guys are just like,

I don't know. Was that the Easter egg that I

heard about? I guess, I don't know, but the...

Because someone was saying like, oh, the, you

know, eagle -eyed who fans could pick out the

reference, and I was like, I have no clue what

it was. Well, when he says, when he is the doctor,

he's always like, and I'm very clever, like...

kind of like he used the word clever a lot when

he was the doctor and everything that was a big

thing on that show and like three times I heard

him say it on the show so it could just be a

coincidence but whenever he said clever it kind

of got my who boner up. There's a term for you.

I think we have an episode title. Is there a

Viagra for that? Will iTunes allow a who boner?

If I've spaced it out correctly, I guess. OK.

Yeah, we'll see. Who bone underscore are. There's

probably there's probably worse things they've

allowed, you know. Chuck, have you been watching,

reading, listening, anything? Like I did start

watching something that you guys talked about

a few weeks back, and that was me in the high

castle. Nice. I watched the first episode of

that because I decided to finally try the free

trial of Amazon Prime. So I'm trying to watch

the 10 episodes of that before the trial runs

out. I think it lasts a while because I think

my parents did it too. I think it's 30 days,

right? Yeah, something like that. And it's funny

because like an email address for the next 30

days. and it's funny because like I bought stuff

on there and I was like okay let's you know see

how this two -day shipping is that sounds pretty

cool and like it was like when did I buy it I

think it was it was right before a new year's

day so like I bought it on I bought it on Thursday

and I was like oh you know it should get here

Saturday or maybe because the holiday like maybe

Monday But it ended up getting here Tuesday.

I'm like, wait a minute, this is not two day

shipping. I'm like, this is like five day shipping.

What the hell? This is just weird. But weird,

because I've never had issues with them that

way. And what's kind of cool now is that in here,

they have like same day. Like we can like I can

order something on Amazon and I'll be at my door

within like five hours. It's insane. Yeah, that's

that's the advantage of the big city. Yeah, it's

we order I forget what it was we had to get something

and we're like well looking at target and then

we're gonna go to target but then amazon was

having a sale if we use that that that uh process

it would be cheaper and we get a free like case

of soda so it was like all right well it's like

it's like ordering from pizza hut but instead

we're ordering like batteries and baby formula

so it's like there you go. It'd be funny if you

like you're ordering something and you like you

click on it and you hear It's like, what the

hell is that? Here you go, sir. Oh, and we also

got you Chinese food along the way. Yeah, and

then it was funny. I ordered like graphic novels

and stuff. And for the first time ever, the graphic

novels that I ordered came damaged. Oh, that

sucks. And they're usually pretty good about

their packaging. But this time, like they were

just thrown in the box with nothing else. Like

there was no sort of those, you know, air packing

thingies. Yeah, they weren't in there. Like the

one book was inside of the other book and the

pages were all mangled and stuff like that. And

I ended up having to like send it back like twice

before I got one that wasn't damaged. I mean,

they paid for the return shipping and everything,

but it was just really annoying. So I'm like,

I don't know if I want to pay one hundred dollars

for. prime when I'm getting damaged items anyway.

Like, I don't know. Were you ordering from Amazon

or was it a third party? No, it was Amazon. That's

awful. Yeah, I even called the lady and like

I complained about it and stuff and she's like,

oh, that's really strange. And even when I ordered

the replacement, that one was damaged and it

was damaged the same exact way. And she's like,

well, she's like, maybe our entire shipment of

that particular book was like damaged somehow

or whatever. Doesn't make it better. I know.

I'm like, well, I'm like, OK, possibly. But I'm

like, how does your box packer guy at the warehouse

like how does he pick up a damaged book and say.

Yeah, this looks acceptable and put it in the

box to send it out. I'm like, how does that happen?

She's like, no, you're totally right. That's

yeah. I don't know why that's happening. But

ended up getting it straightened out. So but.

back to the back to the point we were talking

about. Man the High Castle. I really enjoyed

the first episode, so I'll definitely be checking

out the rest of those. I like how it's like set

in the past and it's like kind of in the 60s.

So it's it's like after the war, but still well

before any of our time periods. Yeah, it's just

kind of interesting dynamic they have going on

there and stuff. But I'm anxious to see how that

turns out. Did you guys finish finish that? I'm

still the second episode. So there you go. I

finished it and it really does keep up the momentum

and awesomeness of it. Yeah, and I told a girl

that I work with about it and she Watched the

first episode and then apparently just binge

-watched it. Her mother was complaining to me

that I started her on something and got her addicted

to this show. So apparently it's good for her

as well. So two high recommendations right there.

Also, I did watch one of the thing, which I won't

do like a review of, but since probably I'm the

last person to see it. But I finally saw the

Lego movie. Oh, wow. Was that on Amazon as well?

No, one of my friends let me borrow it. Because

I finally upgraded to a Blu -ray player. So I'm

keeping up with the times, finally. Now it's

our game, the 4K Blu -ray. Well, I got the really

good one I thought ahead this time. And I got

a really top -notch Sony Blu -ray player that

does 4K upscaling. And it's got the built -in

Wi -Fi so I can watch Netflix. Amazon stuff right

on my TV and it's pretty sweet. So But yeah,

I checked out the Lego movie on the blu -ray

and I do I love the blu -ray. It's like it's

so clear It's awesome. But Lego movie was a lot

of fun. It was it was pretty funny and I remember

not being able to see it when it came out for

whatever reason and I was kind of disappointed

because everyone was saying how good it was and

was that was that in 2015 or 14 last year 20

2014 Oh, 14, okay. So yeah, I was kind of happy

I finally got to see that. And I was trying to

pick out, like I didn't know much about it before

watching it, so I was trying to pick out the

voice actors as I was going. So I'm like, okay,

lead guy, Chris Pratt. I'm like, Elizabeth Banks,

Morgan Freeman. I'm picking out all the guys,

it was pretty funny. Jonah Hill and Cheyenne

Tate. I love, what's that, guy who plays Batman,

Will Forte. I think. Yeah, Will Arnett. Will

Arnett. Man, I knew it was one of those guys.

I was going to get there eventually. He's great.

I was kind of worried, like in the beginning,

that it was more of like a kids movie. And like,

obviously it is kind of a kids movie, but it's

like, there's a lot of humor in there that like

a kid wouldn't pick up. Yeah. Like little subtle

things, like little comments that he makes and

stuff like that. It's pretty funny stuff. Very

cool. I mean that's it was like the year Chris

Brad because after that then he had guardians

and yeah, yeah drastic worlds and You can do

no wrong. Yeah. All right anything else before

we take a quick break All righty, we'll take

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listening to All right, and welcome back I remember

when 2015 was happening and there was so much

talk about all the kind of geek craziness that

was going on and movies TV shows Netflix series

Comic events, but uh, I was just curious, you

know You guys looking back at all the different

geek entertainment things that happened in the

past year kind of you know What did you think

of it? You think it was a good year to be a geek

any disappointments anything like that? well

in the past Five or Five or so years. I think

it's it's been really great to be a geek especially

on the comic book side Science fiction kind of

side of geekiness. I'm not sure if it's still

good to be ultra a smart geek because I've never

really been one but I think being a comic book

geek is definitely still a good thing. People

still love the movies and everything, I think.

I'm not sure if we'll see a decline in that in

a few years or not from oversaturation of the

market. But yeah, it's been pretty good. We've

got a lot of stuff out there to occupy us. I've

got so much stuff going on that I want to read,

watch, listen to that it's very tough to keep

up with that stuff. It's becoming a second job

to entertain myself. I know. That's why you have

a podcast, too. Like, oh, it's for the podcast.

I can't see the light of day today because I

have to do stuff for the podcast. But you brought

up Geek Mood. comic book movies. I know we actually

didn't have that many this year when we had Fantastic

Four, Avengers and Ant -Man. Are we counting

Fantastic Four? Yeah, barely. I guess even if

you want to count Kingsman, which is technically

a comic book movie. Kingsman was good. I liked

Kingsman. Looking at 2016 though. There is like

I don't know every comic book movie ever coming

out I don't know Chuck looking the comic book

movies this past year What did you what were

your thoughts and impressions of them Avengers

and Ant -Man? And I don't know if you've been

bothered with Fantastic Four or not No, I still

have not seen Fantastic Four. I would like to

at some point, but I'm waiting for The opportunity

that they will give me money to see it It's 50

could have been something and then it's the rest

happens and it's like, oh no, this isn't this

is the worst thing This is awful. And now I kind

of I kind of felt like that with the amazing

spider -man movies It wants to be a good movie,

but there's just a couple things that are totally

screwing it up I would say that those amazing

spider -man movies have much more going for them

than the Fantastic Four. Oh wow. Alrighty then.

Yeah, like let's just say Dr. Doom was better

represented in the first Fantastic Four film.

Well, I could see that I guess a little bit.

So you mean the maid for TV that was a better

Doctor Doom? Probably, honestly. That's probably

still the best. The Roger Corman one might be

the best one yet. You mean the throwing back

your seat to type faster? Exactly. That's the

key. The one where Reed Richards falls in love

with a baby. Yes, that was creepy. Oh, I forgot

about that. Please find that. If you have not

seen that, watch it, but watch it with a bunch

of friends. You will have an awesome time. Yeah,

it's pretty awful. Especially the part when Johnny

Storm turns in the human torch and it's like

animated. Oh my god. It's like bad, terrible,

early 90s CGI. I don't even call it CGI. It's

more like moving paper. It's pretty... But anyways...

It's TGI, terribly generated images. You know,

with Avengers this year, I felt like it... It

kind of came and went a lot quicker than I expected

and Ant -Man for sure Looking at you know, 2016.

We have Doctor Strange. We have Deadpool Batman

vs Superman apparently is coming out Civil War

as well, you know What movie out of all those

do you think you guys are the most or most looking

forward to? Deadpool Definitely Deadpool. Are

you more excited now finding that it's officially

gonna be rated R? Yes, that's always a good thing,

especially with Deadpool, since he's a little

bit naughty. Sorry to kind of butt in, but do

you see the awesome billboards they're making

that make Deadpool look like a romantic comedy?

Yeah, and I also like the the one especially

since I work at a photography studio of him Dressed

up like he's getting his senior photo done with

that blue background that every photographer

Uses and he's in this there's this sweater and

he's kind of like looking off to the side It's

like a three -quarter shot of his head. Oh I

saw it at the movie theater when we went to go

see Star Wars and I got a kick out of it nice

nice So I'm most looking forward to Deadpool.

Chuck, what about you? I would say definitely

Civil War. Easily my second favorite comic book

story of all time, so I'm kind of anxious to

see how it translates to the big screen. Obviously

my first, if you listen to this podcast, you

know what my first choice is, but it's the Infinity

Gauntlet story is my all -time favorite, but

Civil War is a close second. But yeah, there's

a lot of stuff. I don't know if Is Gambit still

on track to come out this year, too? I don't

know. Every week there's a different rumor, and

I don't even know if Channing Tatum... I feel

like he signed on and dropped off that movie

like 14 times, so I don't think it's coming out

this year. And yeah, but we do have X -Men Apocalypse

also coming out this year, so... Yeah, and uh...

Think dr. Strange in November, right? Yeah, we

are getting dr. Strange in November, which I

think might be the one I'm most looking forward

to just because it I'm curious to see how Marvel

handles a story like that. That's you know, that's

completely magic Thor, you know had magic elements,

but they can kind of hide behind it with science

fiction a little bit and more adventure But you

know, dr. Strange is 100 % like a magical guy.

So It's magic, you know. Do you think they're

going to go like, do you think they're going

to go heavy with the comedy in that or kind of

back off a little? That's a good question. I

don't know. Because they kind of throw me off

sometimes. Like, I didn't expect Ant -Man to

be as funny as it was. But I don't I don't see

them going that funny with Doctor Strange. I

don't know. It would be hard considering that

character. I don't know. That's a good question.

It does seem like they do insert a lot of comedy

But I think the only one that I would didn't

have that well even like winter soldier had comedic

moments I'm sure there'd be they'll be comedic

moments, but maybe just like Wong is gonna be

a total cut -up you guys The ancient one Dormammu

is gonna be just like a laugh riot. Yeah, did

you hear they got they got Sinbad to play Dormammu?

Think they'll probably treat it relatively seriously

unless it's like a They treat them like a fish

out of water story or something like that We

was like showing up to the 7 -eleven with magical

robes on or something, but I hope not Because

I feel there's like gonna be that really serious

moment where he has Raised in the hospital and

his hands are all damaged and he can't be doctor

anymore. I Don't feel like that tone will be

kind of consistent throughout. Maybe maybe not

I know it's we'll see we'll see for sure. There

isn't curious one though Well, I guess we'll

see what the first trailer how they'll handle

it but considering it's coming after Civil War

I wonder if it that I wonder if that'll change

the tone of comic book Marvel comic book movies

where it gets a little bit more serious where

that could go and we didn't talk about it But

like the we do have X -Men apocalypse coming

out I thought apocalypse look a lot better in

the trailer than they did in those photos, but

something about it to me just Considering Apocalypse

is like one of my favorite villains. I don't

know. I just I'm worried about that movie a great

deal. I think it looks awesome so far, but the

only thing I kind of Not sure about is like him

using magneto is one of the horsemen and I'm

guessing that's probably a well thought -out

thing and you know, they're doing it on purpose

and everything but it's just kind of weird thinking

like someone of such I guess intestinal fortitude

like you would succumb to serving a character

like that it's kind of like I don't take you

back at first but I'm guessing that's a well

-calculated maneuver and will probably look like

a stroke of genius once you watch the movie we'll

see I wonder if it'll be like some sort of mind

control or something like that, like they had

with Wolverine in the comic when he became, was

it Death? He became Death for a little bit. Yeah,

I think so, yeah. He became Death and I think

he became War as well. Don't quote me on that.

And then he became Bub. He did. Then he became

Old Man Logan again and they killed, yeah, that's

a lot going on with that. You did bring up Civil

War and... Of course, you know Marvel being this

company all about synergy. They are also doing

a comic book series You saying Civil War was

one of your favorite? Well, they're gonna try

to continue it with I don't know if you saw the

Civil War 2 looks though instead of though it

being captain Civil War 2 electric boogaloo Which

would be amazing if that was? That was a title,

but uh, I don't know what the major conflict

is going to be I was trying to read up on it

a little bit But seems like it's gonna be coming

out of secret war I guess they can't why they

can't not use that title for 18 different stories.

I don't know but anyways, so is this like Like

I'm confused because I haven't been reading secret

wars I was kind of waiting till It comes out

in like a collected edition and I could just

read the whole thing at once because with big

stories I hate being strung out over the weeks

because I forget stuff. Yeah Oh, this has been

strung out over the entire year charge. Yeah,

it's going way too far The stories are all over

the place. There's no It's just confusing as

hell the timeline and the Marvel you at this

point Like without giving anything away to me.

Are they doing like a full reboot kind of like

DC did with the new 52? No, it's weird. Well,

I haven't read the last issue of Sequel War.

I think it just came out Yeah, I think maybe

this Wednesday even because I was at the comic

book store last week and they didn't have it

But yeah, it's it's very confusing. They've already

moved on to this supposed new universe if they

have already did. And it's it's kind of confusing

of how did everything end up like this after

the end? So it's it's all very confusing and

muddy at this point. So this Civil War two will

take place in sort of this new universe, I guess.

It's a new universe that's still very much like

really similar to the old one. Yeah. Really,

what they did was get rid of. The ultimate universe

and then kind of take elements of that Yeah,

like miles morales is in uh, the the proper marvel

you like so he's he's kind of taken over regular

spider -man's role while the spider -man peter

parker has kind of moved on and become less less

angsty I guess because he's he's now uh He's

kind of the tony stark now. Yeah, it's weird.

It's hard. Like you said, it's hard to explain

because it's Technically the new universe has

started but secret war is not even over yet.

So we don't even know How we got to where we're

at? And this is why comics are weird is because

it's like it's so it's really confusing but it's

it's a different universe but a lot of the same

continuity from the past is still there like

Rogers is still old Steve Rogers Falcon still

Captain America Thor like they've carried over

a lot of the same stuff So it just seems like

the the biggest change is that a couple characters

from the ultimate universe came over To the new

universe and you know, uh the thing is on guardians

of the galaxy like the fantastic forest gone

I don't know if that was just more so because

of the movie. So it's like let's forget that

ever happened. But uh Yeah, it's yeah and deadpool

is part of the avengers now and he's kind of

like 18 bank rolling them. Yeah And he's bank

rolling them, which is very bizarre at this point.

He's got his own mercenary group. It's like mercs

for hire Yeah, which they're starting a new comic

on that too even so they're they're really trying

to Get their money's worth from Deadpool. So

I I'm not sure I think there's a central character

at the heart of this one coming up But I don't

know. It's hard to see cuz it's Falcon is on

Iron Man's side who's Captain America, but I'm

not I'm not sure so Yeah, I don't know if we

answered your question Chuck or made it more

complicated made it more complicated For sure.

I will say though i've really liked secret wars.

I thought it's been really good so far, but it's

just been It's been too long too long and like

too confused. It's just the timeline makes no

sense. It makes no sense They're also doing a

huge x -men crossover this summer too x -men

apocalypse war or something like that that's

coming out that's supposed to again being apocalypse

movie coming out they're trying to tie into that

as well so that's you're gonna have two big marvel

events coming this this summer so interesting

enough confusion left to keep up we talked a

lot about about movies what about uh tv shows

any i know we've always talked about jessica

jones and daredevil any other past tv shows this

year that you really found yourself liking i

know we've talked about mando high castle anything

else that you know really stood out for you in

2015 Daredevil is definitely the best Marvel

Netflix show going on. What about Agent Carter?

Agent Carter was also very good. I can't wait

for that. That's coming out in the second season

of that in five days. So keep an eye out for

that. I'll definitely try and keep up with that

one because that was the one show that I caught

on TV all the way through, which is a huge accomplishment

for me. I've only watched the first two episodes.

I don't know if it's coming out now with like

chat, but hopefully I might catch the one. You're

a fan of Agent Carter, Trek? Oh, yeah, I loved

it. I think like, obviously, you know, I'm a

huge fan of the DC TV shows, but I felt like

Agent Carter was right up there with them. I

thought it was... Was pretty much everything

that I was hoping agents of shield would be it

was like that good and agents of shield was just

a huge letdown for me, but There was there's

obviously some high points and stuff like that,

but it was overall disappointment, but agent

Carter was Everything I was hoping for that was

awesome. I was a huge fan of that Nice, I see.

I'm so I'm assuming you're both gonna be checking

out that in the Also the with the new DC or WB

show the it's Legends of tomorrow legends of

tomorrow today. I'm actually really excited for

that too because they have sort of this hodgepodge

band of characters that they threw together and

along with a new character rip hunter and you

know they kind of do little time traveling and

stuff and this is like a good time travel story

you guys know that yeah i know right yes because

they have uh rory who also played uh i forget

his real name but uh he was the character rory

on doctor who he was kind of a companion man

all these hoovie connections yeah right all these

who's from who you got You got Karen Gillian

in Guardians of the Galaxy. You got David Tennant

and Jessica Jones. And now you've got the dude

Rory. I don't know his real name is now in D

.C. So I guess that's a place to go to get your

career started. But I was also I was also very

happy with how Flash developed, I guess, at the

end of season one and then the beginning of season

two. I was very pleased with that. And I'm super

excited to see how. Season two continues with

zoom because when zoom first appeared he was

like the most terrifying villain I've ever seen

on screen Yeah And I think arrow is kind of finding

its way back slowly but surely still some some

problems with it, but And I think you guys should

go back and watch the first season of Gotham,

because I got past that Balloon Man episode,

and I finished up that. And it was actually a

lot better than I think it was given credit for.

Have you watched season two at all? I have not

watched season two. I just finished season one.

Once again, if it's on Netflix, that's how I'm

watching it. Oh, yeah. It does have that weird

Netflix deal going on, too. So that's interesting.

I was looking looking forward to seeing like

what in 2016 TV shows are coming out and it's

hard to say because you know a lot of TV shows

are still in development, but uh, I forgot that

uh, you know another iconic 90 shows coming back

with Fuller House on Netflix Do you think any

of you guys will be checking that out at all?

Don't care. You're not gonna check out the the

new adventures of Kim and Gibbler No, I don't

give a shit. Did you watch that at all growing

up, the Full House? I did, and then I did something

really creepy to the guy who plays Joey. I still

feel bad about it to this day, and I can't really

look at him. When I was in college, he did a

comedy show down at Wilkes University, which

isn't that far away from where Chuck and I live,

and I went to go see it with a bunch of friends

from... high school kind of days uh went and

showed and i got uh not bullied but kind of peer

pressured into doing something which was scream

out at dave coulier alanis morissette If you

don't know what that's about, apparently the

very angstron song that she wrote to somebody

was apparently about him because apparently they

had a relationship and apparently she got sent

to the hospital because he pumped her with so

much of his... Fluids, I guess you would say.

So, yeah, I said Alanis Morissette. He instantly

called me out on it. He goes, oh, nice guy in

the hat. And he's like, yeah, say it and then

hide behind your hat, which is exactly what I

did. And I do I don't do well with that kind

of stuff. But yeah, I regret it to this day.

So you're that guy yeah, I was I was a heckler

for once and I regretted it so I'm sure if he

if he Knew you now he would forgive you and he

would realize that you were just being a Kid

and didn't know any better. So yeah, I can't

I can't If I see him on TV or something, I instantly

have to change the channel. All we have to do

is just get in contact with him somehow. Maybe

write him a fan letter. Sincere apology. We'll

send him an autograph talking in circles picture.

And it'll be cool. I appreciate it. I'm sure.

Yeah, I I don't know, Chuck. Any interest in

Fuller House? A little bit. I may check it out.

I got to say that, you know, the Tanner daughters

are looking pretty good nowadays. But other than

that, I don't know. I did like that show a lot

when I was a kid growing up. Kind of curious

to see what they're going to be doing. What's

the basis of the show going to be? What's it

about? So I'm kind of curious about that. But

if it sucks in the beginning, I'll probably just

give up on it. So I don't know. I had the feeling

it's going to be like a... Girl Meets World was

the Boy Meets World where I watched an episode

of it and then questioned my life decisions and

never watched it again. So it's like, why am

I watching this? I've tried to watch that a couple

times and I just can't do it. I know. Like I

watch it for like five minutes and I'm like,

all right, that's enough. This is clearly a show

meant for teenage girls and that is not me So

I like when I see like someone i'll be like,

oh there's tapanga. That's cool And then but

like 90 of the show is about the new people and

i'm like, I don't care about this Yeah, I really

don't want to watch a teenage girl trying to

land a date with his her Middle school crush.

I'm like I don't know. It's not worked for me.

I am okay with that I'm kind of curious Samantha

B who was on The Daily Show is getting a show

on TBS called full front full fun trail Which

I'm kind of curious about and see how that is

an agent you see season 2 of agent Carter Looks

like it might be quite good. So yeah agent Carter.

I can't wait for I Did I did see some interesting

comics that are coming out? I don't know. Have

you guys any of you read? the Star Wars comics

from Marvel that have come out? Yeah, I'm collecting

just plain titled Star Wars, and I believe that's

it, because I'm trying to cut back a little bit.

Another coming up with some more miniseries this

year, and I know they haven't released all the

titles But they did indicate they're making a

mini series dedicated to po Dameron, which I'm

looking forward to I might check that out to

see if it's it might be apparently be a prequel

comic but that I've like the main Star Wars story

some of this some of the side ones. I've not

been that crazy about like they had one for Princess

Leia, which was okay, and I Like that one it

had Terry Dotson artwork. That was my main main

thing for buying that Yeah, I was right. The

story was kind of man. The Chewbacca one was

okay. Lando was It's kind of cool, too, is that

this is also going to mark the first time ever

that a female is writing for The Punisher. Becky

Cloan is going to be starting a new Punisher

series coming out this year. So seeing how that

works out. Well, we already had a woman director

on it, so we'll get a woman writer. Yeah. Have

you ever listened to that? How did this get made

episode? Yes, I did. That was that was very interesting

to listen to. I highly recommend listening to

that one. It also had Patton Oswald, which was

great. It doesn't make you completely look at

that movie differently. Still not a good movie,

but it makes me look at it differently. Yeah.

And then lastly, Jonathan Hickman is doing a

Black Panther series. I really liked his treatment

of Black Panther and New Avengers and Secret

War. So I'm really looking forward to that because

I've kind of been liking everything he's doing.

So I know anything else you guys are looking

forward to in 2016 that we can talk about. I'm

looking forward to more Brian Kayvon made stuff.

Paper Girls is really great if you ask me. I'm

looking forward to the continuation of Harrow

County, which is by Dark Horse, which is a great

horror comic. Is that written by him as well?

No, that's written by somebody else. I don't

know the name offhand, but it's very well done.

The art's kind of on the simplistic side, but

it's very spooky, and I'm looking forward to

see where that goes. Other comic books anything

by Amanda Conner has been really great her Harley

Quinn stuff has been really great and Anything

that she's really been involved in Starfire has

been really good I've seriously gotten into a

lot of Amanda Conner stuff this year and Batman's

been kind of going downhill a little bit for

me, but hopefully that that starts to pick up

again from Scott Snyder And I'm trying to think

anything else Yeah, I've kind of liked what they've

done this past year with the whole Surprisingly

with the whole commission or Gordon thing. I

don't know. I think I would but I ended up really

enjoying it Yeah, oh and also Batgirl has been

really great Chuck anything you're looking forward

to in 2016 that we talked about? Yeah, I guess

just one thing as far as comic -wise. I'm looking

forward to the third and final release in a series

of original graphic novels by Jim Starlin. That'll

actually be coming out in April, I believe. It's

one of his Thanos stories. It's called Thanos

Infinity Finale. There was, like I said, two

other... Volumes previous to that the infinity

revelation the infinity relativity and Thank

God a more simpler name the infinity finale But

I always enjoy a Joy reading Starland's stuff

with Thanos because that's his his character

and I think he raised it the best and I enjoy

kind of taking it up to him at the At the comic

cons and having them sign it and getting some

commentary on it. That's always good time. So

Yeah, I have not read those but you've said great

things about it So maybe I need to need to pick

them up if you're not into like the deep space

stuff It's it might not be for you. But like

it's like some really out there stuff. So You

have to you have to be like a good Thanos fan

or warlock fan or just a cosmic fan in general,

I guess Interesting I wonder if we'll get any

more cosmic stuff with dr. Strange considering

like he does he does have some ties to a lot

of cosmic characters So that will be interesting

All right, anything else you wanted to talk about

that? 2015 2016 I just want to mention that uh,

I was probably one of the few that was Extremely

pleased with Terminator Genesis movie Nice, I

did I ended up watching that and I and it was

much better than I expected. I think it was nearly

deserving of the like Fritral hatred to God.

Yeah Clark's in that one, right? She is I highly

recommend that You're in no position to recommend

that yeah, I haven't seen it at all But no, I

I agree it was not deserving of the hatred that

it got I remember when we You know, we talked

about it way back when after I saw it and I think

I vigorously defended it and some some listeners

came to my aid and and agreed with me. So that

was pretty cool. But, yeah, I was I was really

happy with that. And I actually got that movie

for Christmas and I was playing it on the on

the Blu -ray player. And it looks pretty great,

too. I know a lot of people. It has Emilia Clarke

in it. Of course, it looks great. A lot of people

are harping on the special effects in that movie

for some reason. I don't really understand that,

but. See, I like that. And obviously, you know,

we talked about Jurassic World and stuff, too.

I was a big fan of that. And I love pretty much

anything. Chris Pratt, he's one of my new favorite

guys. So I know one movie you talked about last

week that I also caught up with was Creed. And

that I mean, that's me. We might be the surprise

of the year. I mean, I. expected to be pretty

good because I like the director's first film,

Fruitville Station, but man, like that, like

I agree with you. I think that might be the best

Rocky movie since the first one. Yeah. Stallone

is desorbing of his Oscar nomination, so. Yeah.

Which is not expected to say that a year ago.

I feel like they could have just skipped Rocky

five and six and just did this one. It's like

this is the movie we've been waiting for kind

of. Yeah, yeah. It well actually I kind of liked

Rocky Balboa, but you know I could see it does

kind of you know push push the line a little

bit when you have a 65 year old man standing

toe -to -toe with a boxer in his prime, but you

know Yeah, and five was just I don't know I apologize

to anyone that's a big fan of Rocky five, but

To me that was just an abomination. I think even

I think the only big fan of rocky five was tommy

gun He's like that's me yeah, uh movie wise with

2015 too, which was kind of interesting was just

like Oddly, it was like a resurgence of Westerns.

There was like a lot of them, Heathly, Bone Tomahawk,

The Salvation, which was one with Matt Mickelson

that came out really earlier in the year. Also,

Slow West. To my dad, they will never be as good

as the old ones. I don't know. Some of them can

give them a run for their money. I would, Chuck,

if you have Amazon, Slow West is currently streaming

for free on Amazon. It's only 90 minutes, and

I really like that movie a lot. Sorry, Michael

Fassbender. Like the Western genre a lot. I was

kind of happy to see like a resurgence last year

I kind of hope that trend continues, but I'm

not sure if it'll catch on at all. It's played

out for me Yeah, the Revenant and also if you

want to call that a Western even though it's

Canadian mostly they're in Canada. So northern

maybe I'm not considering the reverend to really

well and Heafily it did. Okay, and I think you

might see some more. I think you always it'll

You always get at least one or two here and there

so Yeah, I can. Greg, your comment about like

your dad saying that they're not as good as the

old ones. Like, I could definitely see that,

like, because I saw the same thing, like my grandpa

used to say that, like, even with like, even

like what we consider some of the classic, like,

Lenise Wood movies, my grandfather would be like,

ah, it's like, why are they always blowing stuff

up? These aren't as good as the old John Wayne

ones. Just like every generation does that like

I can see us I can see us one day complaining

like 30 years from now complaining about comic

book movies and be like that's not as good as

Avengers or Iron Man like What was that that

movie that they did it was a remake of a John

Wayne one? And it's it's not coming to my head

Yeah, my dad watched the new one and he said

the old one is still by far the best one You

couldn't tell him like that. The new one was

better in any which way. He would not agree with

you at all I think it's just whatever you grew

up with. It's like whatever you see first Like

that's what you kind of attached to or whatever

I don't know because I like the remake better

honestly, but I still enjoyed the original so

Yeah, he said the little girls, the one in the

original one was a better actor. Oh, that I can't

agree with. Me personally, like the like, you

know, I'm a huge fan of the Tombstone movie.

Yes. Like if they made a Tombstone movie like

20 years from now. I probably would like kind

of look down upon it like I would try to be fair,

but like deep down, I'd be like, yeah, you know,

like I feel like that's just always going to

happen no matter what. That movie would not be

your huckleberry. Right, right. Well, they did

kind of, you know, make another Tombstone movie

in Wired Earp, but you know. Oh, the Kevin Costner

one? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was all right. It

was okay. Yeah, that was long though. Wasn't

it that like a super long movie? Kevin Costner

doesn't know how to make short movies. I think

it was like four hours long, I want to say. I

don't even know. It was probably around over

two and a half hours. Just like Dances with Wolves

and stuff like that. I thought it was two parts.

Like I remember getting like a two part. set

for that or something. I don't know. I haven't

seen it in a long time. Like the Titanic VHS

that was two tapes or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Yeah,

I mean, there's a lot going on in 2015 or a lot

went on in 2015, looking forward to 2016. So

we should have some lot to talk about in this

upcoming year for sure. today uh when we're recording

this it's the day that we found out that uh alan

rickman died which is oh yeah which is kind of

i know not to end on a sad note but you know

he gotta gotta definitely respect the the rickman

man probably the best villain actor of our time

uh you know it just from hans gruber to you know

the snape that guy was a surely an icon so sad

to see see see that happen man cancer Screw you.

We don't like you. You can go away. Is that what

happened? I didn't know what yeah apparently

was he was battling cancer, but it was date You

know was one of those things that no one really

knew about it until Unfortunately, he passed

away. Yeah him him and freaking Bowie man. That

was that was tough rough week for sure, but But

yeah, so definitely definitely sad to see that

happen. So Alrighty anything else before we bring

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been talking in circles. We'll see you next week.

Definitely a Yippee -ki -yay motherfucker to

him for sure. I didn't even know that, I didn't

even hear that. Oh, that he passed away? Yeah.

Sorry to be the Bear Herb bad dude. I like, yeah.

I loved the original Die Hard, but yeah, he was

great in that movie. The Voice of God was a good

one, too, with the Kevin Smith, the Agner movie.

Yeah. It was weird, I was looking at it, and

he was never nominated for an Oscar, ever. What?

Yeah. You guys ever see that that tea video on

YouTube where he's sitting and having a cup of

tea and he like throws it off the table No, it's

really good. It's all in slow motion. It's really

awesome. It's really dramatic the music playing

and everything