Baltimore Comic-Con 2015

Hey, this is Bill Corrales from the sketches

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right guys name this food ready Apple very good

I'm a pro both are you both guys at the same

time nice It was pretty incredible name name

the type though Granny Smith No. I say Macintosh.

Do I sound sexy at least in this apple? Uh...

Negative. Goddamn. I guess you need the full

visual to make it sexy. Isn't apple really a

sexy fruit though? I mean, of all fruits, maybe

grapes, bananas, apples, whatever. Strawberries.

Strawberries are the sexiest fruit. Yeah, that's

a good point. If I saw Emily Ryjkowski eating

an apple, I would jizz my pants. If you saw her

eating, like, human feces, you'd be halfway there,

let's be honest. Yeah, that's true. I feel like

we could really be recording this. I am. Oh,

you are? Yeah. Good job, man. Yeah. I totally

would, though. She could eat a human body and

I would be into it. Make her into a zombie. There

you go. I would do her as a zombie. You need

a lot of lube, I think. Because I'm pretty sure

they get pretty dried out. Yeah. With all the

blood, though, you might be. That's not at all.

It dries up, though. When they're dead, their

blood dries up. Let's not have... You know what?

This is a bait I'm okay losing. Or not finding

out the answer to, ever. Damn. I wanted to know

the answer. We'll make zombies real and then

people please leave comments Hopefully that's

not like what started the walking dead. It's

like I wanted to see what it was like having

inter intercourse with a with a Half -dead person

and then after doing so it causes on the apocalypse.

I am pretty sure there have been movies like

that. I heard You pretty sure resin I've watched

them, but I don't want to admit to it I know

there are titles and actors and directors, but

what's his name? He was he was in Lord of the

Rings flipper since city I love that I named

Flipper second. Um, Elijah Wood. Elijah Wood

has some kind of movie. They're doing some kind

of sex zombie movie or whatever I think. I heard

it on Nerdist or something. Of all the movies

Elijah Wood was in, you go to Flipper? Yep. It

left an indelible mark. Wow. I guess so. There

you go. Flipper. I didn't even know. Oh wow.

Flipper. Flipper, I'm just trying to give myself

space here so I can finish my apple Go for it

No, go ahead Oh Flipper, I was confusing that

in my mind with Free Willy, so wrong kid They

did meet up in that classic Free Willy verse

Flipper movie though Crossover extravaganza?

Yeah But you know apparently killer whales are

kind of pricks though They kind of are I also

have a big prick. Greg's in one of those films.

It's a fun fact. People try to rename them orcas

to make it sound nicer, but they're really just

killer whales. Yeah, as we're looking at this

one thing where like... And I believe a whale

penis is called a dork. I'm gonna look that up

now. Man. Internet history is interesting. It's

like why did you look up what a whale penis is

called? That's I delete my history a lot. Welcome

to stream of consciousness You are now on the

inside of what I like to call the circle of life

You know something, Bert? I think you and I are

going in circles. It feels like we're going in

circles. The circuit is now complete. When I

left you, I was but the learner. Now I am the

master. Because it's a circle. Yeah, we heard

about the circle. Yeah, it's what familiar would

change. Hi, this is Greg, this is Chuck, and

this is Dan, and we are Talking in Circles brought

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that is all about conning, at least this weekend

as we talk about Baltimore Comic -Con 2015. The

second year we've gone as Talking in Circles,

we have tons to talk about, some panels to go

over, some news, some fun stuff, some crazy stories,

but before we get to the fun of Comic -Con, how's

things been going for you guys? I thought when

you said Con we were going to talk about your

son Connor? Uh, no. I totally confused, so I

am not prepared. Oh, weird. What were you going

to talk about? The fact that I danced for well

not dance that way but I danced to make him laugh

when he was having a Little cold issue where

he wasn't happy. I did a little funny dance for

him. Yeah Greg is great with the four -month

-year -old crowd. They find him hilarious. Yep

So just if you're listening tonight, I know if

we just get them listening to the podcast. It's

hard for them to subscribe though that's the

tough part because They're you know, uh, what's

that called? Dexterity with their fingers not

that great yet. So it's hard to kind of get well

one day one day Things going well Uh, yeah, I

just got back from a haircut What have you been

up to chuck? My life is not that throwing people

uh, mine's Not been too greatly because my football

team sucks And I lost both fantasy games this

weekend So, I pretty much lost in all three phases

of football. I'm just hoping you lose again this

weekend, Chuck. I do have to give a congratulations

over to Greg. Thank you. We are a week late this

weekend, mainly because I had to get over that

loss. It took some time for me to kind of reconcile

with it. Now, I went head -to -head with Greg.

I went down. It was because of Eric Frickendecker.

But what are you going to do? Call him Kaepernick,

really? And then this weekend Greg and Chuck

are going head -to -head so I'll try to get revenge

for you, Dan Hey, you're after slow start Steve

Smith senior only got you six points So I know

he was not doing well at the end. He had some

kind of injury He had an injury at the first

quarter, too But then he went down again early

fourth quarter, I believe. Watch your kicker

get like 32 points though or something. That

would be awesome. Or your defense gets 28 points

like they did when they faced me. Yeah, I changed

defenses again. Anything else going on, Chuck?

Not too much. Kind of a slow week getting back

into the swing of things after we got back from

the con. I didn't really even get to look at

a whole lot of my stuff because... I'm kind of

looking for a house at this point, and that's

taken up a lot of my time and stuff, so. Oh,

I see. Responsibility. I know, like, what is

this life stuff? Like, any kind of time for comics?

Like, what the hell? My week's been fine, but

what was actually kind of weird is that, so,

you know, my son goes to daycare, he's four months

old, and they're starting to do something I didn't

think they would start this soon, and that's

they're doing fundraisers for him when he's four

months old. I'm like, what are you raising funds

for? What field trips does he need to go on?

I mean like he finds late exciting. You don't

need to go any place Everything is kind of just

you know, it's like they're trying to sell like

uh magazines like pizzas and like all this random

food and they give me this sheet with everything

they could possibly win up to like a scooter

like he's four months old not gonna really enjoy

a scooter all that much and it's not like it's

a public school like i'm paying you so i don't

understand what any of this at all what is it

exactly they're trying to get the money for i

don't know i don't know i don't know drug habit

maybe i'm not sure but uh why have you guys here

are you guys interested in buying any uh pizzas

or uh other knickknacks because i have plenty

let me guess the pizzas are probably like 23

it is something like that the prices are ridiculous

Who's going to buy this? It makes no sense. I

bought some shady stuff off a guy at work one

time. He was selling stuff for his kid and they

had these, uh, pieces of Tupperware from like

straight from China. Nice. Even had like poorly

translated, uh, you know, English on the side

that was like very poorly translated. And it

was trying to, uh, with made lead. Yeah. And

it was like, uh, You know keeping contents long

time fresh Like yes, we love you long time. Wait

a minute that seems inappropriate Networking

connectivity error. It's like wait. No, that

doesn't make You gotta love the fundraiser stuff

Yeah, that's insane. It's starting already. I'm

like, I thought I'd wait the least kindergarten,

but nope out the gate out the gate $18 popcorns

exactly, but it is fall season with football

back But one thing that's also coming back this

fall is fall TV a lot of fall TV premieres Most

of which I have not caught up with the one that

I did catch up with that I really don't have

a huge amount to talk about but I don't want

to mention it briefly because a few weeks ago

I talked about rewatching Heroes to get ready

for Heroes Reborn and I did watch the first,

it was like a double episode so it was like two

hours and it came back and it's kind of picking

up a little bit after when the last series ended

so spoiler alert for those that have not seen

it but it's now in a world where people have

found out people have special powers so it's

kind of the reaction to it and They brought back

some of the old characters, Noah Bennett most

notably, that seems to be the focal point once

again, but it's okay. I think it's better than

some of the seasons that Heroes ended with, but

I think the biggest issue with it is that the

story it's telling, it's talking about registration,

you know... people being judged because of them

having special abilities. It's a story that's

already been kind of told by the X -Men like

20, 30 years ago with characters I cared more

about. So it just, yeah, I'm not saying you can't

do something similar, but it doesn't seem all

that interesting when the characters that they're

introducing are just kind of... run of the mill

and it really doesn't seem to have that much

more momentum. The biggest thing Hero's had going

for in its first season was it was able to build

mystery. The issue was that it never solved that

mystery all that great. So now when you're trying

to build mystery again, it's hard for me to really

get all that excited because I'm like, I'm probably

just gonna be let down with the answers that

you give me. And there's also this really weird

segment with this new character who's like kind

of part of a video game and it seemed, I don't

know, it just seemed... little desperate I guess

but I'll probably stick with it with maybe another

episode but overall it's not something I could

probably recommend it's I feel like it's gonna

come and go I doubt it's gonna last past this

one new reborn season so if you're looking forward

to getting the heroes I say just watch the first

season and then stop and you're good you're good

to go after that but I don't think you've got

caught up with anything or read anything as of

late I just my parents just got Amazon Prime

and they kind of let me in on it So I've been

rewatching Batman the animated series and I think

we all know Everybody's opinion on that. So I

don't think I really need to say say anymore

It doesn't hold up though. I mean, it's been

a while since I've seen it. So it does hold up

I think I'm only like 10 episodes in or something

But it holds up for me, and it's a lot more music,

a lot more like, orchestral music going on than

I remember. A lot less talking and a lot more

orchestra than I remember, but it's really great.

I don't think, since it's early on, I don't think

Mark Hamill has really gotten into the swing

of things yet with Joker. Because he sounds a

little bit different. The laughter doesn't seem

quite as insane, but it's still a really good

show, of course. Kevin Conray is the man, though,

right? Yes, he is the man. I've gone back and

watched the X -Men, and some of them hold up,

some of them don't, more so than others. I tried

to watch the 80s D .I. Joe cartoon, and I could

not get past 10 minutes of it. This is awful.

This is not any good whatsoever. Speaking of

kind of something this other also coming back

nostalgia wise. I did I did watch the Muppets

They have a new show out and it's kind of like

in the vein of Modern Family or the office It's

that classic mockumentary style almost kind of

like later Larry Sanders because it's all about

this the Muppet show that they're making but

it's a like a late night show where Miss Piggy

is the host and the main thing with this is because

they released this in the online as the kind

of the controversy was Miss Piggy and Kermit

broke up and then like that's kind of like with

a lot of the drama comes from It's pretty good.

It's it's funny because it does seem like to

get back to the the roots of the Muppets because

you've ever watched the old Muppet show there's

a lot of like adult humor and There's a lot of

this now and this new series. It's very not like

Disney some of the jokes that they have There's

this joke. I'm gonna do it the service, but it

was something the nature of They're talking about

the band if you know the the band Yeah, they're

like well the parents always really happy and

then the characters like yeah legally now and

it's like wow they made a pot joke And, but if

you go back and watch the original Muppets, you

realize there were so many pot jokes because

that entire band were basically hippies. I see

some people were kind of taking it back by it,

but if you go back and watch a lot of the early

Muppets stuff, it was very much that way. Or

even a lot of the Jim Henson stuff like Dark

Crystal, that stuff was just meant to scare the

crap out of kids. He always had a little bit

of edge to it that you have. If you ever heard

any background stuff about Jim Henson, he never

really wanted to do little kid stuff. He wanted

to do more adult stuff with the puppets and have

more of an adult sense of humor with it, so that

totally makes sense. Yeah, it's pretty funny.

I just think a lot of the jokes going after,

like attacking the format of the mockumentary.

Within itself. It's kind of have been done already.

It's it's weird though seeing it through muppets

and Yeah, you know yeah Gonzo thinks it's an

overused cliche and that as soon as as soon as

I'm not talking about this They'll they'll shoot

me saying something good about it since I already

dissed it and they go back I love this premise.

It's a great premise exactly Yeah, it's and there's

stuff like that. I was surprised they didn't

do more of those type of jokes more of the meta

humor that the Muppets are known for. It's here

and there, but it's good. I would say for your

Muppet fan. The first reboot of the Muppet movies

was good, except for the me party section. I

don't know if I remember that. Oh, it is awful.

YouTube it later, you will shoot yourself in

the face. So I won't do that, then, because I

don't want to shoot myself in the face. I like

my face. Most people don't, but I'm kind of partial

to it. All right. What we're going to do, though,

is take a quick... And when we come back, we're

going to actually talk about all things Baltimore

Comic Con 2015. So we'll see you in a bit. Hey

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love to have you. past weekend was Baltimore

Comic Con 2015 and it's one we've gone to it

wasn't three years four years now I'm not sure

but it's a comic con that's oddly enough focused

on the comics so I'm curious to hear what you

guys thought of overall just brief thoughts of

Baltimore Comic Con this past weekend I thought

it was great I know they this is the first year

they expanded it to three days which was pretty

exciting it's been growing every year so they

felt the need to add the extra day. And I got

to say, I think it was necessary. I think it

paid off Friday when we went. It was actually

kind of nice to look around because I think there

was a little bit less of a crowd there with people

working and stuff. Like some people have these

things called jobs. I don't know. You know, weird

people. I mean, why would you choose real life

over? You know going to a con I don't know but

I know I know where that seems insane who cares

you can get can't get a babysitter Just put put

the kid in front of the TV and you know, right

check out for a few hours priorities people Exactly

or bring your kid to comic -con. There's a lot

of like really young babies there. I'm like that's

yeah there was yeah But yeah, you know Friday

was nice Saturday was really really crowded ton

of people there which we kind of figured that

would be the busiest day and then Sunday it kind

of died off a little bit again, but I had a great

time. They always have a great lineup of artists

and and writers and all kinds of creators there

and everything and there's tons of vendors with

Great great deals on all kinds of stuff from

toys to comics. So I always have a great time

there crack about yourself I also always have

a great time at the Baltimore Comic Con Definitely

some great artists, writers came out. I definitely

think they upped the ante with that. And they

also have special guests from a bunch of TV shows

and movies. So that was kind of cool, even though

I do not like to go to celebrities after my experience

with Peter Mayhew the one year at Philadelphia

Con. But they had Ming Na Wen from Agents of

Shields. They also had Katie Cassidy. from Aero

who sponsors our podcast, but not really. Unknowingly.

Don't tell them. Yeah. Who's the guy, Chuck?

Edward James Almost? Well, not Edward James Almost.

The other guy from Aero. Paul Blackthorn? Yes.

Thank you. They also have him. He plays Detective

Lance. Yes. Katie Kesty's TV father. And also

some other guy that I didn't really know who

he was. So we will not mention him. I think it

was the thing I know about the other guy. I don't

remember his name, but I know he he guest starred

in like six episodes of 24 or something. OK.

Random fact of the day. Yeah. He was one of the

waiters on one of the episodes. Yeah. So they

definitely expanded out with different things

like that. That was. quite interesting, and they

definitely have some great vendors there. This

comic show is definitely more about the comic

books than like movies and TV shows and stuff

like that, which is really great. It's kind of

one of those hidden gem type of shows, if you

ask me, which is really great. Yeah, I mean that's

that is kind of the focus it was interesting

to because even though they had those Celebrities

per se there was never really ever a huge line

for any of them. They had this section kind of

kind of a You know guard it off for them last

year It was just a whole bunch of tables that

they were sitting for people that had food and

whatnot or just sitting around randomly So it's

it's it's not like they wasted the space by having

those those people there. No, I wasn't now not

at all It was just interesting. You know, I mean

it'd be worse if they didn't have that space

and then they had people just Piling into the

into the aisles waiting for the celebrities There's

not many comic -con she go to and you know TV

stars to have like half the line that most artists

do or you know, cuz You know, they had who were

the ones that everyone would go to Scott Snyder

was huge Amanda Conner was huge David Finch,

Ethan Vann, Skryer or however you say his last

name Mark Wade was big. He walked right by me

by the way. Mark Wade walked right by me. It

was actually connected by Mark Wade though because

at one point I was at the studio table for Boom

and he was there and there was like no line whatsoever

because people didn't realize he'd be there so

that was kind of cool. I unfortunately didn't

have anything for him to sign but I did get to

talk to him a little bit which was kind of cool.

Because he's yeah, he helped he launched boom

with a irredeemable and the comic I had Greg

Reed and I'll actually talk more about that because

actually went to a few panels this year, which

was kind of fun there's always interesting cosplay

and all that great stuff and a lot of a lot of

good geekery going on we for those that you know

listen to our podcast last year the people from

charm city games were there again and now they

have their the one game they talked about last

year was rune cast it's actually made it looks

great i was checking it out it's awesome i would

advise taking a look at it it looks like it's

going to be distributed to a lot of game stores

so if you're uh if you're a gamer uh and and

they're bored i don't know what do you call board

gamers is there a name for them Bordy's is that

can we call them boring? No, it's not Bordy's

It's it's it's it's just gamers, but table top

enthusiasts. Is that it? Yeah, there you go That's

a long one though. It has to be something short

with ER at the end. Isn't that the rule is not

the table toppers. There you go but I mentioned

that I went to a few panels this year I went

to IDW had a panel and I went to that and I went

to the Valiant panel and Boom panel and actually

the best out of all of them I would have to say

was the panel I went to for Boom Studios and

what was kind of interesting is if you've never

seen a panel before or gone to it, it's really

just this room where you get a couple of the

writers and... publicity and marketing people,

and they kind of talk about what's happening

within their comics the next year coming up.

But the boom panel was actually different. They

focused in mostly on just some general talking

and became kind of a roundabout discussion with

the writers that were there, including Mark Wade,

and they were just talking about diversity in

comics, and I figured it was something we can

actually touch upon a little bit. And how it's

changed in the last few years and where they

see it within the next 10 and how they're seeing

More so than ever before now that you're seeing

different demographics reading comics and some

of the biggest comic books Successes are coming

out of nowhere stuff like You know the unbeatable

squirrel girl is selling tons of comics labyrinth

James. You're seeing more and more female -centric

comics They talked about how I don't know if

you guys know this but the biggest that you know

women out read More women read than men buy by

a long shot and for a long time comic books haven't

gone and gone after that market But they are

now so now with these comics that are kind of

not just guy centric a little bit. So One thing

the question they kind of tossed out in this

panel I'd be interested to hearing you guys discuss

it. Is that you know, do you think that with?

the diversity growing within the comic book community

and you're seeing people kind of with different

interests outside of that of superheroes. Do

you think that the superhero genre when it comes

to comic books might shrink in the next 10 years

where you see less books and more books that

go outside to other genres like they kind of

had back in the day when you had your monster

books, your comedy books, you know, do you think

maybe we can go back to something like that within

the next 10 years or so? I don't know, that's

a tough one for me. Well, I've been kind of going

off heading away from superhero comics. Not a

lot, but I have been kind of branching out definitely

with a lot of stuff from Image. I've been reading

a lot of fables. A lot of, I've been reading

Manhattan projects, which is crazy insane. Walking

Dead, more of a horror comic. So yeah, there's

definitely a lot of different stuff coming out,

which I like. There's a lot more diversity than

just superheroes. But I think if it does come

up, there's gonna be more diversity with... genres

of comics. I think you might see it fade away

a little bit too. Not that much longer afterwards.

But I definitely see it as a growing market for

comic book publishers and writers. You say you're

reading less superhero. Are you reading more

books outside of superhero genre? What was the

motivation behind getting out of and kind of

expanding your, your reading repertoire? Was

there what, what kind of There just wasn't as

many superhero storylines that I was finding

as interesting So I wanted more things to read

to kind of fill in that gap And so I kind of

branched out to image comics definitely with

saga tribes This comic called cross didn't enjoy

that too too much Then I have also gone into

other things like fables. I've just been going

into things that I heard were really great things

outside of superhero comics, and I even asked

my... comic retailer over at Comics on the Green,

Dave, what he'd recommended and the time he recommended

The Cross, which was really good until they went

into, they got a different writer on it. But

it was a good suggestion at the time for me.

But it was just a lack of finding interesting

things in the superhero realm. So I kind of went

with some other stuff. Yeah. When you say you

heard other things that were good, like where...

Were you hearing that from was it was it basically

from the comic shop online is you know some of

it was just Kind of just being around comic book

store and just being a geek kind of in the know

and knowing these older Stories or books that

that people that got a lot of hype back in the

day because Fables is kind of quite old at this

point I think it has come to a close with those

stories, or is coming to a close soon. So I am

definitely way behind on the game on those. So

it was that. talking to Dave to find Cross. He

has other good suggestions, but it was mostly

me being in the know in the geek world on what's

going on. Also, I found out about Saga through

listening to a podcast on Nerdist, a comics writers

panel. where it has a bunch of comic writers

and they talked about Saga and that's how I kept

hearing Saga, Saga, everybody needs to read Saga.

Like everywhere I went with podcasts, more specifically

the Nerdish Comic Writers panel, I was hearing

about Saga, so I just wanted to check that one

out because it was getting so much hype. I know,

Chuck, I don't think you read anything really

outside of the superhero realm, am I mistaken?

No, that's pretty much correct. Is there Has

there been anything out outside of that you think

that would interest you and maybe that you thought

about picking up but just were hesitant to or

You feel just comfortable within the superhero

genre. I really have no interest in anything

else Everything that I've even been hearing it

just doesn't interest me. I don't know. I pretty

much get my fill From other things just from

TV shows and things like that. I think like to

me just comics I've always associated with superhero

comics and I just I love the story with good

versus evil and the trials that people go through

and the decisions and dilemmas and all that but

I don't know it's just a personal preference

out of anything against any other comics or anything

I certainly answer your questions I I really

don't see the amount of superhero comics decreasing

and the reason I think that is because with every

new generation of kids there's always going to

be an interest in that and especially like you

know we've seen kind of a renaissance so to speak

like with all these movies coming out and you

know I see I see kids today like five -year -old

kids that are excited about the same stuff I

was excited about 25 years ago you know it's

kind of it's kind of interesting because it's

like literally the same exact stuff like Ninja

Turtles and you know Power Rangers and Superman

and Spider -Man and it's like it's just it's

repeating itself and just I think uh you know

with the reboots that DC and Marvel has done

um I think it's just kind of going to fuel them

for for quite a while now. Yeah, I was in the

panel one day, someone made the comment that

they think, you know, in 10 years maybe you'll

have four heroes do what the Star Wars model

currently is for the Star Wars comics. People

don't know where you have like one main title

and then a few others that support it. Like,

you know, you have Star Wars and you have like

Darth Vader and there's a Leia miniseries and

other ones here and there. And they thought maybe

that would be the focus. And I don't know. I

think that, and honestly might be a good thing,

because I think that might be one of the things

that hurts comics is maybe there's too much from

Marvel, maybe Marvel spreads itself a little

too much. But I don't think we'll see less comics

or less superhero comics in the next 10 years.

I think what we might see, though, is comic books

looking a lot differently, the comic world's

looking a lot differently. DC seems to be pushing

forward where continuity will be less of a thing

and it will be, you know, things will be more

self -contained and I think that'll be a good

thing. Personally, that's what got me interested

in getting outside of the superhero realm is

watching stories where it felt like things mattered,

there were stakes because I love superhero comics,

I still read them but eventually it does feel

like with almost all superhero comics what you're

reading You know what's happening of you're just

waiting it for it to all reset again Like it

seems that no matter what it's always gonna It's

always gonna come back to the starting ground

and then do it all over again So there's no lasting

impact all the time. I think that's a product

of more of the writers than of the actual genre

though Yeah, because I think if it's written

correctly then you don't have that problem, but

we've gotten into this loop somehow of You know

everyone Doing these massive crossover stories

and then okay, we don't want it that way Let's

just hit the reset button and that's to me just

sort of a bad job by some of the Editor -in -chiefs

and some of the major decision makers. I don't

think it's necessarily a product of that genre

true I mean, that's true. I think that is I don't

think superheroes have to be that way but Again,

that's kind of got me outside of comics for a

long time was that that? crossover -ness that

you had so much of and the fact that if I'm reading

this one comic I needed to read like five other

comics to truly understand what's happening inside

of it you know that gets a little old here and

there you know The Walking Dead was the first

comic I think I read that wasn't really a superhero

it's where I started and what I liked about it

is that The desk like impacted me in a lot of

ways a lot of the characters and they do in super

heroes here And they're like when Captain America

died in Civil War that really impacted me not

like crying or anything like that more so angry

But I know what I knew I know reading walking

dead when a character dies It it's I'm not gonna

see that character again or them trying to bring

it back or do you know it? There's the lasting

impact that I mean something made me realize,

okay, well, what other books are like this? Where

are the books gonna get that feeling from? And

to Chuck's point, I think you can, superhero

books can do that too. It's just, you know, the

need of people like Asada and other things where

they want, you know, we're gonna do this thing

to Spider -Man, we're gonna make him reveal his

identity for a month and then we're gonna...

Ripped that all away with brand new day You know

there they've done they did a lot of like the

get the eraser out reset things over and over

again And I'm not I'm not a continuity person

in the sense of that But when you're like when

you're making something have an impact and then

you're just taking that impact away immediately

it does Hurt you in the long run, but you know

I still probably be more comic superhero comics

than anything else currently but The one thing

I do I am glad seeing is that we are seeing more

Diversity when it comes to comics and seeing

cooler characters and you know, I do actually

really I do read unbeatable squirrel girl or

I don't know if you guys do but I find it it's

it is quote -unquote a girl book, but it's quirky

and funny and I don't think there's any shame

in reading it because it's written well and it's

a lot of fun, so Yeah, I definitely think there's

a lot of great stuff out there. Like I wouldn't

be against reading a Walking Dead comic because

I do enjoy the show I'm not a huge horror fan

to begin with. I'm not even a moderate horror

fan, but I just got attached to the show because

someone else I knew watched it, so now I'm kind

of engrossed in the story and I want to find

out what happens. But I know from hearing from

everyone that the comics are really great. I'm

sure I would enjoy them, but I just honestly

don't have the time to expand into other realms

because I have enough books now that I haven't

even read. Yeah, time and money because it does

get expensive, you know? I know. And you know,

Image and Valiant and they do that smart thing

where the first volume is only nine dollars and

then they get you hooked. They give you a taste,

they give you a taste and that happened to me

because... I talked about it like last month

or two months ago, the Valiant mini series, and

I liked it a lot. So it was actually the one

thing I was looking for at Comic -Con, Baltimore

Comic -Con, was Valiant stuff. I was looking

to get some of their cheap graphic novels. I

didn't really find much, but I did get a good

deal at their booth, and so I picked up a bunch

of volume ones. I read one. I'll probably talk

about it next week. But I also went to their

panel, and before I ever... really read much

it was interesting though it was weird it was

like I kind of know how my wife feels when we

talk about stuff and you you kind of get a gist

of it but you really have no idea what the details

are because they're talking about things that

are happening and people are clapping I'm like

I'm guessing this is a good announcement I have

no idea what it means but so that was that was

but it did get me excited to read their books

and they have eight books a month I think is

what they release and they have a shared universe

too but what's kind of interesting about them

is that their books like each are vastly different.

You have one that's really like high comedy,

and they almost don't feel like they're in the

same universe, but they are. So it's interesting

that way. So hopefully we'll talk more about

those in the upcoming months. I know we talked

about getting autographs and getting signatures.

Greg, I don't know if you want to share this,

but you do have a pretty funny story regarding

Scott Snyder, if you wanted to share it. I don't

care if I share it, as long as I don't get the

restraining order from him. Again. Yeah, so I

lined up for Scott Snyder and he had huge lines

all weekend. It was tough to really get to the

man, but I finally just kind of vultured a spot

in line pretty close when I got there and so

got up to the front and there's Scott Snyder

and he's being all nice and stuff and I'm not

good at conversation, but he apparently is and

he was doing some small talk with me and he asked

where I was from. I said Scranton and he goes,

oh my parents have a lake house near Milford

and which I kind of knew because at the end of

his first issue of Witches he talks about that

place in Milford a little bit and how he used

to go walk around in the woods. and that there

was some kind of rusted out car randomly in the

middle of the woods surrounded by trees and everything.

It's kind of like how he got inspired by that

kind of stuff. So he goes, yeah, my parents have

a place near Milford. And me thinking of that

scenario at the end of the book, he also goes,

told me that at the end of witches, and then

he flipped over to the next book, and it just

happened to be witches. He's like, oh, you have

it, okay, so you know. And he goes, yeah, so

they have a place in Milford, and I'm like...

Yeah, I'd really like to take a trip there someday,

thinking like I want to take a place to take

a trip to Milford to look at this car and kind

of see what inspired the story. But it came out

sounding like I kind of wanted to stalk his parents

and hang out with his parents randomly and creepily.

After that, I collected my comic books abruptly

and left. That's not a normal thing to say. No,

it's totally not normal and then I told Harley

Quinn writer Amanda Connor that story which she

got a little laugh out of because I I told her

it was it was tough to hunt her down and that

kind of led me into No, no after after I was

like she was done signing my books she goes And

you can hunt me down any time. Wow. She was very

sweet. That's why I like going to the comic book

artists and writers over the celebrities and

stuff. They seem much more down to earth and

chill and everything, because they don't get

attention all the time and whatnot. So I highly

recommend checking out those two if you don't

mind waiting in the line. See, she said you can

hunt me down any time, but if she caught you

like... Creeping outside her window. I don't

think she'd have the same. Well, no, she, but

she, but she knew I was harmless. From that story.

Cause I was like, yeah, I, I know I creeped him

out. I didn't mean to. It was just kind of. When

she, when she said any time you should be like,

well. It'd be easier to hunt you down if I had

like your phone number, maybe your address, you

know, can I get your number? Yeah, and I didn't

do that. So that's why she also knew I wouldn't

creep her out and she could joke about this.

Did not call security. Did not call security.

Yes, I escaped security. When you got your autograph,

did you have to pay anything? Uh, no, I did not.

I also didn't have to pay anything for Scott

Snyder. There was a restriction on the amount

of books they would sign, which is totally fine

with, um, some people go in with a stack of books,

uh, to some of these, these creators. And I think

that is completely unfair to the, the writer

and, um, to anybody else waiting in line. So

I totally cool with, uh, limiting the books.

I say that because, actually, Baltimore Comic

Con became center of, I think, a recent article

regarding comic book artists and comic book authors

charging or not charging for the signatures,

and some do, most don't. But one notable artist

that does is Neil Adams, and he was at Baltimore

Comic -Con as well, and he charges, what is it,

$40 for a signature or something like that? I

think it was $30 I saw on the sign. $30 for a

signature, which is, you know, it is not cheap.

And there have been some differing opinion regarding

that. Like, how do you guys feel about artists

who charge you to get their signatures? I think,

like I said, if you have a lot of books, then

you should give them a little bit of money, not

too much. I've heard a lot of artists or writers,

if there's so many books, they ask for a donation

to a charity, which I think is very nice. But

I think that they really shouldn't charge for

an autograph. I think it should come with the

money they make for being there and attending

or through their selling of different goods and

whatnot, like their posters, their different

books and whatnot. Because I think the signature

is kind of a promotion of their books that they

have out and everything. It's a promotional thing.

I just think it's kind of weird. Do you think

it's greedy? But I'm not really in their place.

What's that? It's a little greedy. I think with

Neil Adams, maybe he's on the older side. He

was writing books when we weren't even born yet

or drawing books or whatever. So I think maybe

he didn't make a lot of money back in the day.

So maybe he's trying to get a little bit of a

pension plan here or a retirement fund kind of

situation going on, maybe. I don't know. I'm

not like in his head or anything. I don't speak

to Neil Adams at all, really. Do you know his

parents? No, I don't know his parents. They didn't

invite me over for like cookies. It's the Adams

family. They would, but they would charge it.

Chuck, how do you feel about it? I'm kind of

along the same lines as Greg. You know, these

are your like loyal fans I think if you know

if they're bringing you like a small handful

of things to sign You know, you should be pretty

grateful and just kind of sign it for free I

think the the hero initiative charity is a good

idea Because usually the people I went to I threw

five bucks in the thing for them signing a couple

things Yeah, Scott Snyder had that too. Yeah,

and I think all the people that I went to had

it and you know, it goes to for like older comic

books writers and artists from back in the day

who didn't get paid a lot and You know a lot

of them have trouble like there's certain ones

That are really hard up and they have trouble

paying their bills and all this stuff. So yeah

Yeah, health insurance and things like that.

This charity sort of finds those worst cases

and really helps them out So I mean, yeah, it's

worth a couple of bucks. It's no big deal. I

think Greg, you have a good point about people

having a stack, a huge stack of comics. Then,

yes, I would say by all means you can you get

charged for that because some people are just

ridiculous with the amount of comics they ask

for signatures on. Yeah, people bring a whole

bunch of short boxes. Yeah. And I walked by Mark

Wade's table at one point and there was a girl

there that had Several issues of the same exact

comic. Oh, man And it was probably it had to

be at least 30 issues of it because it was a

good stack probably six seven inches thick and

You know like I mean they're all the same issue

You know she's just gonna probably try to sell

them on eBay or you know in a store or something

like that because they all have signatures and

You know Mark Wade was a trooper. He's just pulling

them off and signing them all putting them in

a pile But I'm like that's kind of ridiculous

like you know like I could I definitely wouldn't

have a problem if he charged her like 20 bucks

or 30 bucks to do all of them. Cause even someone

that's not used to signing their name, like it's

a pain in the ass signing your name 30 times.

Yeah. It's not like you're buying a house. Yeah.

Like, so that's ridiculous. I wouldn't have any

problem with that. But especially with something

like that, where it's pretty obvious that they're

just, you're going to have to sell them. So it's.

Yeah. But Neil Adams to charge 30 for just a

signature on something. you know I gotta admit

it kind of rubbed me the wrong way like it's

you know yeah I haven't walked in my own issues

at all I don't really know his opinion on it

but the only thing I could really say is if I

tried to put myself in that position I would

do everything I can to do it for free for my

fans because these people are buying my books

okay without them I'm not making any money because

no one's going to hire me, no one's going to

buy my stuff, so these fans are really driving

my paycheck, like they're paying my bills pretty

much, so you know, you want to be good to your

fans, people are going to recognize your name

and say, oh he's a great guy, you know, he's

personable, I really like his stuff, they're

going to buy more of your stuff, they're going

to come back to you and everything, so I think

it's, you know, it has... Couple of benefits.

It's twofold. Like if you if you behave in that

way, so do you think on the other end of that

spectrum you have an Artist where they spend

time to do commissions and like that's okay because

they're doing work They're drawing you something

but then you have an artist that should be charging

money for his time skill and talent Barry Kitson,

if you stand in line and wait for him, he will

draw a sketch right in front of you for free.

I knew that was true last year. I'm not sure

if he was doing it this year or not. I didn't

see a huge line in front of him. But I've heard

that he does that kind of stuff for free where

you think, oh, he'll charge for that. But no,

he doesn't. Last year, another great example

was George Perez, who I would say right up there

with Neil Adams as far as. fame in the comic

business, you know, one of the greats. And I

waited in line for probably 45 minutes, but a

lot of people in front of me were getting sketches

done by George Prez. And, you know, he was just

doing a quick sketch. Probably he would spend

five to 10 minutes on it, doing all these people's

sketches and stuff. And then, you know, he'd

finish that. He'd sign it. He'd sign a comic.

And then he'd come out, take a picture with them.

He would thank them. shake their hand give him

a hug whatever he's just the nicest guy he was

so grateful for the fans that came to see him

and when i got to him i i had him sign only a

couple of issues and uh you know i i thanked

him you know for signing them and he's like no

no thank you so much for coming out and standing

this line waiting for me for so long and you

know you guys buy my stuff and you guys wait

for me and come and see me he's like I look forward

to seeing you guys at conventions and he was

just super grateful and that's that's what I

like to see when I go see a creator. Yeah, and

I I don't disagree but the play little devil's

advocate on this do you I know you're you're

saying that regarding you know rubs you the wrong

he rubs us the wrong way regarding artists and

comic book artists and writers but do you have

them like a similar issue when you see the celebrities

who show up and they charge you know even more

than Neil Adams and and for their autographs

and whatnot do you feel well actually Actually,

they don't charge. That's actually the convention

charging. Yeah for that But, I mean, to your

point, if it were them charging, yeah, I could

see, you know, $40 for, you know, for some of

the TV actors, like, it's kind of ridiculous,

too. I mean, I know the convention's setting

that price because they have to get them there.

They have to pay them to come. And so they need

to try to get that money back. But, you know,

that's a little bit ridiculous, too. Like, it's

not like you're meeting, you know, Robert De

Niro or somebody like that. Yeah, I mean it's

tough because but what's interesting is I guess

Neil Adams just seemed to get killed for it But

this might be a similar issue though because

Greg when you when you got stuff signed from

Stan Lee He also charged if I'm not mistaken,

right? Yeah, that That was part of you could

purchase a pass to go get something signed from

him I got it signed at the Pittsburgh Comic Con,

which is another great a con where they have

great artists and creators like that show up.

I highly recommend that one to people. But yeah,

I had to pay like 50 bucks to go get something

signed by Stanley. So again, I'm not sure if

that's a situation where it's the con charging

your head, but good. The con probably. Yeah,

yeah. So maybe my point, it will not be made,

but I will say this that when it comes to Neil

Adams or other artists or comic book, writers

charging for their censures. I was reading the

article one thing he brought up that he felt

like he had the right to do so, and I don't disagree

that they don't have the right. I mean, I don't

necessarily think they owe us anything that they

have to do for free, but I agree that it just

seems a little bit, I don't know, unnecessary.

Especially because $30 is not cheap. That's a

lot of money for a lot of people and especially

kids and you know teenagers or something like

that 30 bucks like that's that's a that's a few

hours of you know work if you're getting paid

minimum wage and and you know, especially you

have multiple books and whatnot and Not knowing

it. It's hard not knowing their situation like

maybe it is, you know, they don't get paid a

lot You know our authors and writers are not

like they're Professional athletes that get picked

million -dollar contracts there, you know They

get paid but especially not a huge amount and

I don't even know if they get royalties in most

cases for you know graphic knowledge reselling

but it does seem that First most people to charge

nothing and then for the person that does charge

a charge three dollars signature That's a huge

increase. Maybe it was like five or ten I would

be a little bit more understanding and you think

if you did charge five or ten Then you'd get

more people's That would want your signature,

so you'd probably break even anyways, but I don't

know. It does seem a little, it does seem, from

the outside, a little greedy, a little unnecessary.

He did have a line, though. I must say, he did

have a line. Yeah, I'm sure people will pay it.

I mean, it's like some people will spend money

on anything, really, so. I definitely could see

what you're saying. Like, they don't... They

definitely don't have the obligation to do it

for free. I understand that, but it's kind of

more of an unspoken rule or an unwritten rule

or something like that, where you're just kind

of doing it out of the kindness you're hard sort

of thing, because that's kind of the status quo.

But they are taking time out of their busy schedules.

Yes, that's true. I'm not exactly sure how all

that works. I know, obviously, Every fan pays

for their pass to get into the con. I think we

had three day passes, which was what $55 each

I think Each of the vendors pays a pretty hefty

fee to have their Spot on the floor as a vendor.

I'm not sure but I want to say it was like two

grand or something like that to have a spot $1

,500 depending on how big your spot was I was

a I was listening to some guys talk about it,

but they said it's like, you know, 50 % cheaper

than like New York Comic -Con or something like

that, obviously. So, I mean, either way, you

have the con really making a lot of money off

of whatever they had last year. It was 40 -some

thousand people, you know, plus all the vendors.

They probably have at least a hundred vendors

there, maybe. Couple hundred so there's like

a boatload of cash. I realize you have to pay

the whole staff that everyone's working there

But I mean does that money a lot of our volunteers

too. So well, that's true Yeah, because they

just get into the con for free. But uh, it does

that a lot of that money go to Pay the artists

and writers to come and stay there I mean, is

that what that money is going for a lot of it?

I guess I don't know I would assume some of them,

but I don't know I don't know for sure because

it depends on I think your status because I think

there are some comic book artists and writers

that don't get paid anything for showing up if

I'm not mistaken. I think some of the unknowns

that you had towards the one end, I think they're

definitely paying for tables. I think like Mark

Waid didn't probably have to pay anything for

a table. uh... i think some of that maybe the

higher uh... and like i don't think scott snider

really had to pay for anything uh... arm or maybe

even uh... the publishers pay for them to be

there i don't know exactly how it works out Yeah,

yeah, but when I was reading his thoughts behind

it I kind of understood a little bit more and

I could you can see what he's saying because

it's basically about value in his art and Seeing

how it like giving those things yours away for

freaking cheap in it and there's I think I can

I get where he's coming from I don't disagree

with him. It's just that you know There are artists

that are in the same boat that he are like why

is it that one doesn't and the other one does

I think that's when you have kind of the inconsistency

there that makes you think you know, it'd be

like if you went to like NFL game and there's

all these people signing for free and then there's

a one guy charging you for every signature You're

like, what's with this dude? Like why is he?

Why is he charging? I mean there and they sign

for free, but they would charge for their different

goods and whatnot and they yeah I got a commission

from Dave Johnson and That was like 300 bucks

But then I also had a comic for him to sign and

like he didn't charge me anything. He He signed

it. He stopped and stopped what he was working

on and talked to me for a good five minutes.

It's weird for somebody to charge 30 bucks for

a signature, do commissions and stuff. Yeah.

I went to several people. I did go to John Beatty

and Mike Zeck who ... The one thing I took was

a secret wars number one the original secret

war story from back 80 was the anchor And my

exec was a pencil and they were right next to

each other. So I got that one signed John Beatty

wanted three dollars per autograph My exec was

five dollars per autograph. See that like that.

I don't have an issue with I can kind of get

that cuz like it was back to that charity too,

so and that kind of that kind of Encouraged me

to get less signed though because because I found

out they were charging per signature. So I'm

like, OK, I'm just going to do the number one

issue because that's all I feel like doing right

now. But, you know, I don't really have a problem

with they were still very cordial and very nice

guys and everything. And, you know, they're taking

times out of their schedule, so I didn't have

a problem with it. David Finch, I did see I I

think I got five issues signed by him because

I took the World War Hulk set. He did all the

I have all the. finch covers that he did. I think

I threw like 10 bucks into his hero initiative

thing because that was that was his limit was

five that he would sign. I did the same thing

for Scott Snyder. So I'm like, OK, I got five.

So I'm like, I'll toss 10 in his hero initiative

bucket and everything. And he was very grateful

for that. And I think that's a great thing, too.

And they're doing it for that charity. You know,

it's great for the charity, but I think it makes

them feel good, too, because they're doing something

to help it. You know, they're bringing, they're

bringing more money to it. So it makes them feel

good too. I did kind of similar thing with Jim

Starlin. I only had him sign one thing and Jim

Starlin is a class act. Every time I go to see

that guy, I've seen him three times now and he's

just, oh, he's so happy and go lucky and everything.

He's just a great guy. If you ever had a con

and Jim Starlin's there, go get something signed

by him. Cause he's, he's an awesome guy. Did

a nice little Thanos sketch in your, uh, in your

graphic novel. Yeah, yeah. He did just a real

quick little profile of Thanos' face for me,

and then he signed everything. I never got to

see that. Yeah, it's pretty cool. So, you know,

he was great. And then I also saw Greg Pak, who

I had him sign my World War Hulk issues, too,

because he wrote them. And he was super nice.

I threw some money in the hero initiative thing.

So the majority of the guys really... Didn't

want anything except the for the charity like

just throw a couple bucks in five bucks. Whatever

three bucks You know ten bucks if you're getting

a few things signed, but and I I really don't

have a problem with that. I think that's fine

Yeah, the worst is like those those guys that

are you know the lesser -known or the people

who are like? Yelling at you to come to their

table and that awkwardness of like you can oh,

that's so awkward Yeah, and you walk by like

hey you can look at you know look feel free to

look and i'm like I There's nothing worth looking

at yeah, well, yeah, I'm like I'm not gonna spend

money on your stuff I feel bad and like that's

be mean, but I don't want to step up to the table

for five seconds And then just walk away because

that's what's gonna happen So do I do I pretend

to look and knowing give you the idea that maybe

I would get something and end up not or do I

just? nod and And smile and keep moving. Oh,

no, I just I just completely ignore. Yeah, it's

that's they're really pretty women I try not

to make eye contact because as soon as the usually

make eye contact then they try to like really

it Go check them check this out. Like no, sorry.

It's looking for my friend Yeah, at all exactly.

You have no social skills because that's tends

to be the case anyways with speaking of which

when I was at one of the One of the panels, I

was at the IDW panel and you know, they're talking

about the 8 ,000 things they have licensed that

are coming out. But the one thing they were mentioning

was they had the writer who's writing the Teenage

Mutant Ninja Turtle Batman crossover. He was

there and then they, you know, did the dangerous

thing of asking for questions. And like, I just,

some people you're just like, why would you ask

that question? And you're not a child, you're

like a grown man who's got to be. 25 plus but

he asked like it wasn't really a question It

was more of a statement and it was just that

all the time I know and it was like I don't know

what you're gonna do with that comic But I just

got to say that when Batman and Teenage Mutant

Ninja Turtles meet up that Batman better kick

the crap out of them, because if not, then there's

something wrong. There's just something wrong

there. He better. Tell me he does that. Tell

me. And he kept saying that. He's like, tell

me that's what happened. And you see the guy

kind of taking it back by it. It's like, no idea

how to answer that. I'm not going to tell you

what happens in my comic book when it's not even

out yet. Security. It was just so ridiculous.

It was so moronic. It's like, you're not on the

internet, guy. You're in real life. Stop. Stop

acting that way. There's a lot of people that...

need to stop acting so strangely at Comic Cons.

I saw grown men skipping down the aisles, making

weird noises and stuff. I know it makes you feel

like a kid again, but not literally. Maybe on

the inside. The method cosplayers, he had a guy

dressed up as Pee Wee Herman who acted like him

the entire time. I get it. Calm down. He scared

me with his laugh. You're not a struggling actor.

You're a grown -up playing dress -up, which is

fine. And if you're going to do cosplay, go all

the way if you're going to do it. Don't be Colonel

Sanders, have an awesome outfit, and then wear

sandals. That does not work. Or the dude with

the cardboard armor and he didn't even paint

it. It was just brown cardboard. The best I saw

a Pikachu that was freaking awesome. I don't

care for Pokemon or anime stuff. I'm sorry I

don't but the Pikachu was pretty freaking sweet

speaking of cosplay I was I was going to a panel

and I walked into the wrong one and it was like

I walked in it wasn't the biggest room in the

world and So everyone kind of you know, one of

the things we open the door It wasn't even open,

it was already open. I just walk in and you know,

you see everyone kind of look at you and I sit

down and I realized very quickly it's not the

panel I was looking for. Star Wars joke in there.

Exactly, exactly. Because people were talking

and I looked up front, I'm like, wow, everyone's

in cosplay. What's going on here? And I realized

I walked into the cosplay panels and I forget

what it was called, the Cosplaying in Fun or

something like that. And I didn't want to like...

be rude and walk away immediately maybe I should

have so I stayed there a little bit and I respect

people who do the cosplay stuff some of the stuff

is incredible I guess a lot of them have a true

talent though I just think A lot of them take

themselves way too seriously, a great deal. And

it was the conversations that were going on.

I don't know. Maybe it's just because it's out

of my realm. Maybe I'm too old or I don't get

it. It might be something I don't get. But the

seriousness in which people take it, I feel like

that type of energy should be used for something

that is more important, for example. someone

went in this huge diatribe about the character

that chose for their cosplay person and This

huge thing about how they had to get one that

matched their personality And like it was as

if they were choosing the real identity and maybe

that's it Maybe it's it allows people you know,

whatever works for you. I guess but it just I

felt like If I ever was in a room that I did

not belong in I'm like, yeah, I'm like this isn't

this is not for me I am the one chooses you Harry

Yeah, I mean some people would say like who you

know does a podcast and then yeah, that's so

true Maybe I am a pot calling the kettle black,

but I think there are people would take it a

little bit. That's racist true true Come down.

It's not Let's dial back a little bit. They're

actually gonna get surgery to actually change

into that character That's gonna be the thing

in the future, right? It's like yeah, I don't

identify myself as a cosplayer, which is not

as anything else You don't have that as a box

to check on this former transformer. Yeah I identify

as Superman. Yeah That was getting some kind

of surgery to look more like Superman I did read

that somewhere that somebody was getting a plastic

surgery to do I saw that too There's this one

documentary called the confessions of a superhero

and it's about it's not about well against the

kind of cosplayers but it talks about specifically

those people who dress up in the In Los Angeles

in the the one what's that theater? Oh, yeah,

the Chinese theater. Yeah And it's that's quite

an interesting documentaries like looking into

their psyche and stuff like that It's I hope

I didn't offend cosplayers. Like I said, I have

nothing against what you guys do if it's well

done It's it's a cool thing. I think it it is

a cool thing done, right? done stupidly, it's

just a waste of time. But then to do it and do

it poorly and then get the aisles clogged up

with people taking photographs of it is just

a little much. Yeah, I mean, I just seem awesome

ones. I saw this guy who was like the absorbing

man. It was really done well. It was like had

a good like texture to it and everything. But

maybe I'm just old and I'm like, who has so much

time to do that? I'm kind of jealous. All right,

anything else you guys want to bring up before

we end this? I was thinking maybe do we want

to say what we like what kind of stuff we got?

I kind of talked about everything I got. I know

Greg Do we want a separate podcast just to go

over everything you purchased? No, I don't think

I think I could sum up those 30 Some pops I got

into just saying I got 30 some pops I'll put

a picture on facebook so people can just see

the Which is only part of the collection. But

yeah, I think you greg You now have more pops

than actually come in a box of pop cereal like

yeah You probably have over a hundred of them

or something. I don't have a hundred of them

I've got some from dr. Who uh... from uh... at

the time i got doctor who wants i got fallout

uh... i got some star wars i got some older marvel

on some older dc uh... arrow i got a deathstroke

and arrow uh... so and i got uh... uh... fifth

element yet really right Yeah, I got to do two

different Lilo's because she's got two different

outfits on. She's got the bandage ones and the

outfit she wears later. Depending on what mood

you're in, right? Am I in a bandage one or am

I here? Yeah, I'm into a little bondage or am

I into... You talked about the... You got a really

great Russian Batman from... Yes, Red Sun. I

got that from Dave Johnson. If you don't know

his artwork, go check it out. He's usually on

different... social media stuff as Devil Pig.

And I also got a couple statues. I got a Batgirl

of Burnside, black and white statue that's really

cool. And I also got this rogue statue. She's

just got a green unitard with a green one -piece

swimsuit type of deal with black underneath.

I don't know what dates that was from. but it

looks really awesome. It's a really well -done

sculpt. That was from September of 84 until February

of 86. No, I don't know. I'm just kidding. Oh,

thanks. I would seriously like to know what it's

from, but it looks awesome. And then I got a

whole bunch of graphic novels, and I really didn't

get any comics this year, which was kind of disappointing

for me, because I've been collecting X -Men comics.

The older ones, like I have the number one, number

two. But I still have some spots that I need

to fill in, and I really didn't get anything

from those. Yeah, I didn't get many comics either.

Like I said, I just got those graphic novels

from Valiant, but Chuck, what about yourself?

I actually did pick up some single issues. I

think I got about 40 or so, most of which were

on my lists, my to -get lists. I had quite a

few of them crossed off of that. Picked up somewhere

around 20 graphic novels probably. Which is great

because most of them are on sale for like five

bucks I got like a ton of good deals and I actually

found a place that One day they had three dollar

graphic novels and then the last day they were

marked down to two dollars So I picked up like

four of them that day just stuff that I wasn't

even looking for but my guys seems kind of cool

It's like two dollars, which is cheaper than

one issue on the comic. So that was kind of cool.

And, you know, picked up a couple of Marvel Legends

that I was able to find at the right price and

stuff. But I did want to mention a couple of

things that I talked to my couple things that

I talked to, like the artists and stuff that

I saw about. I spoke with Jim Starlin just briefly.

I was kind of curious, like how he felt about

Thanos on the big screen. I asked him if he was

overall pleased with the way Thanos has looked

on the screen so far. He had a pretty interesting

answer. He said he really couldn't be disappointed

and he was pretty happy with the way Thanos looks

so far, but he said the only thing that he kind

of would like to see different is... the bright

blue eyes on Thanos. He said it's a little off

-putting. He said they should be like fiery red

eyes to kind of show the evil nature there. And

I mean, hey, I created Thanos, so you kind of

have to listen to him. And I said, well, it's

got to be flattering having the character you

created sort of be... the main villain and almost

the focal point of like all these movies like

this is the the culmination of everything is

coming down to Thanos and he said oh absolutely

it's it's great and he said I'm having a really

fun time because now that he's obviously the

creator of Thanos so he said I'm getting invited

to more like special events things to do with

the Avengers movies and dinners and banquets

and different things and he said I it's really

cool because I get to hang around with Samuel

L. Jackson. I thought that was kind of funny.

I'm like, there you go. That's great. So even

the artists and writers we look up to get a little

starstruck with some of the actors and stuff.

So it's kind of funny. It's kind of funny because

you think about it when we first started going.

You know, he wasn't even the main section. You

can kind of go up to him with no problem Then

once the you know, Thanos gets into the Avengers

now It's like his line is like doubled in size.

So it's cool It's cool to see because I mean

the guy definitely deserves it So now you're

seeing a guy getting like a second life because

of the movie. So and also he he was a writer

and artist he's You know, there's a lot of stories

where he did both the script and the penciling

and like even the the Thanos original graphic

novels that he's coming out with like great pencil

work in there and also, you know, he wrote them

so pretty impressive that he's kind of a one

man band for the most part. Yeah, you don't see

that much anymore, like especially, you know,

in the big, you know, the big two very rarely

is a, you know, an author and you don't get a

guy doing both. Yeah, Scotty Young. Scotty Young,

true, yeah. And also, switching gears a little

bit, I talked to Greg Pack just real quickly

about, because I had my World War Hulk issues

there, and I said, is this one of your favorite

stories you worked on? And he said, yeah, I do

enjoy it a lot. I had a lot of fun on it. But

he said, really, my favorite story that I ever

wrote was Planet Hulk. So I thought that was

kind of interesting. That was one of the best.

Yeah. So that's his favorite, the ones that he

did. Yeah, that's great. That's great, Ron. I

didn't really talk the way person like this is

also kind of a funny story because after the

IDW panel ended I went to actually talk with

James Tinian who's the the writer and it's one

of those situation it was I made it more awkward

than I intended because he was just kind of standing

there and I I didn't want to like be this dude.

He just rushes up to him But I figured it would

be a good time to kind of talk to him see if

he'd be interested in coming on the podcast because

that's what I spend a lot of my time doing and

I kind of walk up to him and I go to shake put

my hand out to shake his hand, but I realized

I didn't say anything yet. So I'm this, this

weird dude who's with his hand out. And, and

then I, I didn't know why, but when I go to want

to say something, my voice cracked. So I'm like,

I, and I'm like, I tried to recover from it and

it didn't not. He was very nice. Uh, he gave

me contact information to who to talk to, but

it was like, I'm like, I probably just creeped

the crap out of this dude and rightfully so.

So if he kind of just. kept on walking away,

so I don't think he'll come on, and if I wasn't

him, I wouldn't either. All right, anything else

before we bring this episode to a close? All

right, I'd be curious to hear what other people

have to say regarding people signing comic books

and not signing comic books, or where they see

comic books in 10 years. Do you think comic books

will be, or do you think in the realm of superhero,

comic books will be vastly different in 10 years

from now than it is today, more or less? If so,

you can talk to us in a lot of different ways.

You can email us at feedbackkikicastradio .com,

or talkingincirclesatlive .com. Or on Facebook

and Twitter, just search talkingincircles, DCRN.

You guys are also on Twitter. What are your Twitter

names? I am at heroicagechuck. I am at thecreativorge.

And I am at movierevolt. But that'll be it for

us for this week. We'll be back next week, same

time. Same channel, same podcast, but for now,

this has been Chuck. This has been Greg or the

Scott Snyder Stalker. And this has been Dan.

We've been talking in circles. We'll see you

next week. I would I would title the episode

that, but I think he might send a cease and desist

to order like immediately. When you're listening

and don't even realize it. A whale penis, average

length, is 8 feet to 10 feet and 12 to 14 inches

in diameter. There you go. It's tiny. So once

they ever say hung like a whale, not like hung

like a... Well, horses still have a pretty good...

Yeah, that's not... This is a thing I don't want

to talk about. Holy shit! How much is an aerial

pipe? What? How much is an imperial pint? Because

they have apparently, they ejaculate 35 imperial

pints of semen. To take a joke from Chuck, who

measures that? I don't know! Remember that. Senior

year health class. Yes. Oh, they're basing it

on the size of its testes, which each weigh 100

to 150 pounds. Oh, he's got some stones. That's

one story. That's kind of where I started. That

was the first book I think I read that wasn't

very raking leaves. No, sorry. I was grabbing

pens. I apologize.