Comic-Con News and New Trailers

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con news because today we are dedicating our

episode to the phenomenon that is comic con as

we get into the nitty gritty of what happened

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It does. I don't know why they did not incorporate

that as their theme song, but before we get to

all the fun of Comic -Con, how are things with

you guys? Things are good. Pretty exciting week.

Comic -Con week's always exciting with all the

news coming out, so I was kind of glued to the

computer the last few days reading all the stuff

and watching stuff. Yeah, I felt really stupid

like when we did the record last time I'm like

there's not that much news about comic -con a

couple days later It's like here's every trailer

ever for the next ten years. So yeah So and then

I post I got some good news just for the show

today. I got an email that my I pre -ordered

a Marvel Legends Exclusive set from entertainment

Earth and it just shipped already and I wasn't

expecting it to ship to August so that was pretty

nice What did you pick up? It's a exclusive Guardians

of the Galaxy box set and it has all five team

members in it in Marvel Legends six inch scale

Nice. Yes, like is there a build -a -figure with

it too or just them? No, just the five but you

do get a little baby Groot in the flower pot

nice Nice nice does the star Lord come with the

mix tape? No, I made my own though perfect perfect

Greg you you you the same you've been glued to

your computer looking for all the awesome updates

about movies we're probably not gonna like. I

was drooling over all the things that were coming

out of there and now I'm stuck on eBay looking

at all the stuff that I couldn't get because

I wasn't there. All the Funko Pop stuff. But

yeah, I watched a ton of trailers and all that

goodness. But there's also an interesting day

today. I got my Ant -Man Marvel Collector Corps

box, finally arrived. There was some kind of

shipping crap going on, so I finally got that.

A lot of cool stuff in there. Cool Ant -Man shirt,

cool Funko pop vinyl. What's the pop final of

Ant -Man? It's of Ant -Man and then it's got

a minute It's an exclusive one because it's got

a miniature the smallest Funko pop vinyl Bobble

head ever made They're really right in that being

really small thing for that. I mean, they're

not you're not cutting that gimmick at all. Well,

yeah They're kind of going the opposite way of

guys with big dicks The guys with big dicks are

like yeah, look at my big dick. I got a big dick

I'm talking about my big dick here. They're talking

about. Oh, look at my tiny. I am a man Oh, I've

got this little tiny action figure over here.

I've got the tiniest funko pop final But besides

that other cool things we actually got at my

work we now have A Pac -Man old arcade machine

but this one comes with like a whole bunch of

games and stuff. So there is going to be no work

getting done at my job. That is awesome. What

other games are on there? Donkey Kong? Donkey

Kong is on there, yes. Donkey Kong Jr., Pac -Man,

Ms. Pac -Man, Pac -Man Jr., Galaga, Centipede.

Uh, dig dug space invaders. Um, yeah. And then

there's look at some that I don't even, I've

never even heard of. So that's, that's, and the

thing is like, even though you can play those

on your phone, still being able to play them

on an arcade is just, yeah, it's got a freaking,

I get to play with the joystick while I'm at

work and I'm in trouble. What was your boss's

idea with this? It's like, you know what? I don't

want my people working, so there's an arcade

for you to play. Well, it's down in the studio

area, so customers can play it. And I told my

boss, I came up with an idea. I'm not sure if

he's going to do it or not. But I was like, Rich,

we need a giant board here, like a high score

board. And every month we'll have a different

game. So the first month we could have pac -man

and we'll have this giant scoreboard of pac -man

scores and i'm like whoever at the end of the

month is the highest score gets a gift card for

somewhere and i'm like kind of generate some

buzz and stuff about the studio kind of a cool

thing that nobody else has and just a little

kind of like sample a little present back to

our customers kind of thing nice nice You can

get like a gift card do bad. There's not like

an arcade in the in the neighborhood anymore.

Yeah, there's not Give them a gift card to an

arcade, but I think it would be more something

like food or something like that Sweet sweet.

I mean, I thought it was special because this

week my work had we made pancakes for everyone

I think I'd go go go with the arcade. Yeah. Yeah

special special pancakes, but Did you make them

like Mickey Mouse shaped or anything? No, we

should have though now just regular gluten free

Because you know why not and then and then there's

there's tons of people out there that have gluten

allergies Yes, or just do any gluten because

that's what people don't do anymore. Yeah, but

or and some good old -fashioned Chocolate chip

pancakes, but I found interesting where people

would have the gluten free pancakes within the

syrup which I'm like isn't that all right? Whatever,

but I don't know how gluten works It's just a

wheat product kind of thing that's in there.

Yeah It's what makes it kind of stick together

everything makes sense makes sense But my week

is kind of, yeah, same. I have not done much

at all. Been catching up with a lot of the news,

which has been kind of cool. Connor, my son,

kind of rolled over for the first time, which

is a little bit of a cheat because apparently

like to roll over, there's parameters of stomach

to back or back to stomach. And the fact that

he has a huge head tends to just motive. It just

is this like a ball of momentum. It's like juggernaut.

Once it's going, it just can't stop. So it's

kind of how it works. But that was kind of cool.

We've been trying to get in on video and I feel

like he knows. it because every time we bring

it out he's not doing it and then once you put

it away he'll do it immediately it's like he's

got a bit strange right yeah it's exactly exactly

but the other thing i've been doing i did catch

up with for the last few weeks i would say is

the hbo a few weeks ago debuted some of their

new shows it's like they always have like a series

of shows because after Game of Thrones ended

after then Silicon Valley ended the same week

and so did VEEP so their new slate came out which

were True Detective and two brand new shows on

the brink and Ballers and I gotta say it's been

a little bit of a step down I loved True Detective

last year the first season was to me like one

of the best TV series ever this season I can

recognize a lot of the talent. I think it stars

Vince Vaughn, Rachel McAdams, Taylor Kitsch as

well as Colin Farrell and like the acting, the

performances, they certainly show a lot of talent.

It's just a show that's so... Super serious and

so stinking depressing that I can't really get

myself to watch it because I just like I don't

really want to feel bad for 45 minutes like this

depressing and there's like nothing there for

me to actually Gravitate towards or go latch

on to like the family Sandra didario naked Exactly

the first season had that the first season had

that and it was where there was plenty to grab

on to But also like Matthew McConaughey, Willie

Harrelson. I thought there was more of a mixture

of like the drama wasn't was there but there's

some breaks in it putting what he helps and I

think is he can Just naturally be comedic or

he's he's a presence to him that I tend to gravitate

towards He is but in this role he's Playing it

serious. He's playing playing it straight and

I will say, you know, his performance is good

He's it's just the characters. I don't find all

that intriguing because they're just all so Stinking

sad, you know, and I think I get drama and I

think it's it's good but I think there's also

a point where there has to be some sort of bright

light, but it's just like uber uber uber depressing

and i don't find the story as strong this year

so with all that said it's i mean i can recognize

it's craftsmanship but it's also a brand new

person doing it and i don't know it's not nearly

up to the same level as before so i don't know

if just me getting older like or me just being

too tired it's just i don't know if i'm gonna

watch something i don't want to be depressed

for 45 50 minutes maybe if i was a year ago i

wouldn't i wouldn't think that but They also

kind of counteract that after that they have

two new comedies with ballers and on the brink

baller starts stars of course Dwayne the Rock

Johnson as this former Miami Dolphins Chuck football

player who is now a sports agent and a lot of

people been kind of comparing it It's like the

sports version of Entourage. I've never watched

Entourage So I can't say that but I will say,

you know, it's fun. It's entertaining the issue

with it to me with that show though is It's drama

is not really laid out very well It's the big

thing with him is like he's trying to sign these

different sports stars onto the agency He's working

for but it's not really built up enough for things

to really feel like they matter It's just some

matter of fact It's like it's hard for me to

recognize the importance of each moment because

they don't really set up the stakes very well

So it's just like I think a scene is just an

overall scene But oh no if he didn't get this

guy to sign that moment it would have meant meant

the end of his career or something like that

but what I find The most intriguing about the

show though is that they actually use NFL licensed

logos. Like there's glimpses of The Rock when

he was playing football and he's playing and

he's a Miami Dolphin and you actually see the

logo. But what's weird about it is that the NFL

actually didn't allow or didn't, they didn't

purchase licensing from the NFL. They don't have

a partnership with the NFL. The reason they can

use it kind of falls under fair use. I guess

you're allowed to use logos and things like that

if you're depicting those logos in a realistic

way. So because they're depicting a football

game that would really happen in a way that would

really happen, they can actually use the logo

and they actually show like a situation with

the Green Bay Packers and they're in their offices

and you see their logos. And since that's also

somewhat of a realistic situation and it's not

used a great deal for a long period of time,

they can use their logos, which I, I, to me,

it's, it's, I find that weird. Cause how could

they not use the Steelers then in the dark night

rises. A stadium blowing up like that's realistically

come on I will the reason why is because it's

not very very realistic that Heinz Ward can run

a kick off to a four touchdown That's true. Yeah,

not anymore. Yeah. Yeah, that's when they're

like, okay I get the guy with the mass coming

in but Heinz Ward running a kickoff or a touchdown.

Come on, like that's not the field collapsing

and imploding that was fine Yeah, so that's a

good question. I was thinking like other sports

movies like, you know the replacements But obviously

that's a little bit more cartoonish and not not

cartoonish a little bit more extremes. Yeah,

that's a fun movie But uh, you also I don't know

if you ever watched that you remember that show

on ESPN that had it was the playmakers Which

was like a football big drama that they had a

long time ago. I don't know if you ever saw that

It was actually quite good, but they also Depicted

a lot of players in really negative light. There's

like the star running back who like took drugs

and all that But so I was the star running back

who punched his wife Star running back you beat

his child Yeah, so quarterback who cheated Yeah

Yeah, so yeah, they were worried that that TV

show would shine a bad light on the NFL I guess

instead of the actual players Yeah, so I found

that kind of funny though, just seeing that they

can use it. But when you watch the commercials

for the show, they don't show the actual logo.

So I don't know the parameters of it. But it

made me think of there's actually a South Park

episode where they use the Redskin stuff because

it's no longer copyrighted. And then the other

show on the brink, it's okay. It's this like

political satire. Tim Robbins is the... Secretary

defense and this coup happens in Pakistan where

this like militant leader becomes the leader

of the country and There's worry that like nuclear

war will start and the only person that can save

them that's currently in that country is of course

Jack Black Who's like? He works in the embassy

as you know, there's like an aid but he finds

himself in the middle of everything and it's

humorous There's some but it's just to me is

dealing with like heady material, but it's very

light on the com the comments not very biting

for it to be a political satire to really have

that and also i think there's just the characters

are the actors in it. Are just too famous because

you think about comedies it's all about the characters

is what can i get you there like a sitcom you

maybe not laughing to begin with when you get

to know the. characters, it becomes funnier.

But with this, with the actors being so ingratiated

into us, like we know who Jack Black is, you

kind of have an idea who Tim Robbins is, it's

hard to get to that point because you're coming

in with preconceived notions of who they are.

So it's hard to even buy what new character they're

being, especially when that new character is

not that much different than who they typically

are. So a lot of the jokes don't Don't feel as

natural or or it's hard to really get an idea

of like, okay Who's really this person supposed

to be? So it I think it has potential. It's only

been a few episodes I'll definitely catch up

with it but I think of all those shows when I

tend to enjoy the most is is ballers just because

the characters are fascinating and it's it's

shot pretty well and uh in the william the rock

johnson's pretty pretty charismatic he can carry

a show so and something that's for him that's

not a mindless disaster movie or family film,

so You can go bala city squala Exactly. Hopefully

they depict the the dolphins better than their

other Cinematic appearance which was in East

Ventura No one's trying to kill the marina as

a far as I know. Nobody kidnapped the mascot

No, not yet. Not yet. Though it is weird because

I do feel like doing the rock johnson like he

he has like the build of jason taylor so i just

get that like that sense in like seeing him in

like the uniform with the helmet on he kind of

has they look a little bit alike but so what

we're going to do right now is we're going to

take a quick break when we come back what we're

going to do is get in the nitty gritty of comic

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like I said, we're gonna talk about all the things

that happened in comic -con But before we get

in the comic -con news some more recent news

or some recent images just dropped today as we're

recording it and we got to talk about it because

Now we are huge x -men fans here so much so that

Greg has a tattoo of x -men fittingly new images

came out today where we finally got to see what

Psylocke Apocalypse and I guess Magneto looks

like we though we kind of know who Magneto looks

like because he's been in three movies already

And if you've not seen them, I'll put them in

the show notes. And let's just say the look of

Apocalypse is a little questionable at best,

maybe? No, you mean they're actually filming

X -Men Power Rangers crops over and they actually

have Apocalypse being Ivan Ooze now. I've been

hearing that comment a lot, actually. Damn it,

I thought it was original. I was still looking

forward to making that joke. That's funny, everyone's

drawing that comparison I've heard that comparison

and he didn't the fact he looks a lot like the

Cree from or the Cree from garbage the galaxy

a little bit Yeah, it's a little bit like Ronan

in I like apocalypse. I have a I'm looking at

build a figure of him right now on my desk. And

he's a hard character to pull off, but I don't

know. It's just something about it looks off.

And I think that the biggest thing, I like Oscar

Isaac as an actor, but seeing him like smaller

than everyone else just seems kind of weird.

Yeah, his head's too tiny or something. Just

seeing him stand next to other people, like Psylocke

and Storm, there's another image of them together.

Yeah. He just, he looks tiny, yeah. Yeah, my

guess is - He should be like, giant size, like

- The Rock and Vin Diesel had a baby. Yeah, yeah.

Physically imposing, like seven feet tall. Yeah.

He should have a head that's just about as big

as Sylvester Stallone, like around that size.

Yeah, he's got a massive square head. I'm guessing

in the movie that there'll be additional CGI

and I'll probably grow or something like that,

so. I think it's good to kind of think back to

when we were looking at images of X -Men Days

of Future Past and look back and think of the

images of certain characters that we thought

were ridiculous. For example, Quicksilver, and

he ended up being one of the best portions of

that entire film. The difference here though

is that you have a main character and his look

is so apparent that it just seems like it's going

to be hard to see that in context and see it

working at all. I mean Apocalypse is a character

that like it hinges greatly on his looks to me

like I mean other characters you can kind of

change them a little bit like Quicksilver ended

up working out maybe this one will too but I

don't know. Where are the where are the frowny

the frowny death lines on his face? Oh I love

the frowny death lines they don't have those.

No frowny death lines. You see a little bit of

the Egyptian influences. There's a tad but yeah

with the like skirt thingy my bobber Yeah, yeah,

but still you think they could there's gotta

be something better than that. I don't know Honestly,

if they did it like they did the Hulk and Avengers

like You know, yeah motion capture CG or whatever.

I think it would look a lot better or even Thanos

You know, they're doing Thanos motion capture.

Yeah I would say that would also work, and maybe

that's what's gonna happen eventually, like he'll

somehow, you know, you know how he grows. Like

Apocalypse's powers, or like whatever they need

it to be at that specific moment, they're not

really well defined. Also, this could be like

maybe a transition point, even though they show

him kind of with some other characters, but you

know, maybe his costume changes at some point,

maybe his look changes, who knows? Yeah, he's

at the Emmys, and he's like, oh, this outfit,

we're going to the next thing, I'm going to be

out on stage singing soon, so let me change into

this outfit. Mr. Sabanour, who are you wearing

today? I'll put your hands in the mani -cam,

mani -cam epoch. This is the Egyptian Dolce gown

that I'm wearing. Egyptian Dolce. This is Centurion.

There'll be like a pretty woman montage of him

with all his different outfits on and everything

like that. He puts his hand in to get the necklace

out and snaps shut on him. What did you guys

think about the other looks, like Psylocke? Psylocke

I thought looked really good. Yeah, I agree.

Yeah, I disagree on that. Really? I mean, she

looks very much like the comic. Her hair a little

bit different. The purple hair seems a little

bit too far. It's a little bit more. It's a little

bit more like the ends instead of the whole thing

is purple. I don't know. I like the look they're

going for with the comic look. But for some reason,

when I just look at it, it just. Screams like

cheap cosplay to me. I don't know why Like I

think I'm probably in the minority there because

I know a lot of people been saying they liked

it But for whatever reason I look at it. It just

looks like someone cosplaying at a Comic -con

or something. I don't know. It is very simple

But I I to me that kind of falls in line with

that character because our costumes very Wonder

is that because it's Olivia Munn and you're just

thinking of like when she was in cosplay as like

all those characters I'm hoping like maybe in

the actual movie when things are moving and the

lighting is different. Maybe it'll look better

What what did you think of Magneto? I think he

looks awesome. Yes I've liked the variations

that they've put on him over the course of his

few movies. So that didn't really bother me at

all Yeah, the increase of color I think is a

good idea and it's funny when you think about

it too because look at how much X -Men has changed

in 15 years. The first X -Men came out and they're

black leather and people had a lot of issues

with it. But as comic book movies have become

more accepted and give the Avengers now you have

all these more kind of bright and like out there

and certainly that fall more in line with the

comics. So X -Men franchise is probably the one

that has probably adjusted the most since its

first Incarnation All right, anything else regarding

the costumes at all? Well, I know uh, was it

yesterday or the day before? I just heard that

in the x -men apocalypse movie would possibly

see more Comic book influences on the costumes

and then like, you know, the pictures released

today and that kind of brings true Yeah, but

uh, how about the did you guys see the storm

picture? I did with her with the mohawk. Yeah,

that looks interesting Yeah, does seem like she's

gonna be a horseman I would assume because I

saw her in sidewalk with Apocalypse which kind

of makes sense since storm originally was with

the Shadow King and influenced by him So yeah,

I think in her as a horseman is could be intimate.

It could lead to a lot of cool fight sequences

and things like that Definitely We need some

more bad costume apocalypse jokes I thought it

was weird how they have the They have like those

tubes that are usually going into his arms. They're

like going into his head now Like I don't I don't

know it's But I know we complained about Quicksilver

like you said and that turned out really great

so yeah, I know and we all had some maybe I think

similar issues with like the Future sentinels.

I thought some people had some problems with

those but then yeah, yeah, which I mean It's

a little bit different when it's such a huge

part of the movie, you know, which is the main

villain I mean the kind of vibe that I got was

almost like juggernaut in X -Men 3. It just looks

really fake Probably the same designer Probably

and that to be fair X -Men have has had a lot

of really bad costume choices think of even X

-Men Days of Future Past Toad who looked ridiculous,

you know, it's a ridiculous character, but they've

always had a some questionable choices when it

comes to some of their characters. I think even

Sabertooth looked pretty bad in the first one.

Oh, man, Sabertooth. Yeah. Oh, Hoi Ve. Talking

about Comic -Con, I would think we have to kind

of go here because it is the big enchilada, though

maybe you would argue some other news came out

that became even bigger than this. But it is

a movie that everyone's been talking about, maybe

waiting for, I don't know, it's Batman versus

Superman. And we've got Our second trailer and

I know the first trailer we had a lot of apprehension

Second trailer we get more we get a lot of Jesse

Eisenberg as as Lex Luthor. That is an awful

wig Which what we can talk about but Greg I know

you we all did but the second trailer of Batman

vs Superman Do you think it's an improvement

you about where you were previously or even more

skeptical? I don't know I There's just nothing

there that really interests me like Batman would

be an interest to me, but I don't care for Ben

Affleck He looked capable in there like I just

don't know how they're gonna blend those two

characters together I think I'm the most out

of all of us. I'm the most out of the loop with

that movie though so I feel bad for commenting

on it, but I mean, the only thing I know is that

with the trailers have been showing us for the

most part. So yeah, and Jesse Eisenberg with

that wig is I don't care for him as Lex Luthor

so far. It's supposed to be a wig, right? Like

that is that is that like a callback to the original

Superman? That's well, he actually did have hair,

I believe. And in the. Yeah, like in the 80s

or whatever. There was a thing where they like

put his brain into a younger body and he had

like long flowing red hair and stuff. That's

back when he was dating Supergirl, which was

really awkward. Yeah, I actually had those and

read both. Yeah. So I'm thinking this is a wig

or else maybe it's his weird hair and he loses

it from getting kryptonite cancer or something.

I don't know. But yeah, he showed up to me if

you show me that character and had him talking

the way he did I almost like get a more riddler

vibe than I do like flu Lex Luthor. Yeah, I think

Lex Luthor I think intimidating I think someone

who can stand up toe -to -toe with Superman just

with his bravado and I thought you know, it's

really joke around a lot No, no, it's he's really

more of a dry sense of humor. Yeah, and I'm not

one who say you have to be like the comics but

I'm not just, I just the direction, like he doesn't

seem like he fits at all with what they're doing.

Like it doesn't, he feels like he's from a different

movie, at least within the trailer. Yeah. And

I'm curious to see how they're going to fit all

of this into one movie. It seems like they're

trying to pack in a lot of stuff into this one.

There's a lot of characters going on. There's

Batman, there's Superman, there's Wonder Woman,

there's Lex Luthor. Like I just feel like there's

a lot going on. Yeah, I wonder if Wonder Woman's

just gonna be like in the beginning or something

like that or I don't know It's hard to tell cuz

the way the trailers cut it makes you think that

she's fighting Superman But I have a feeling

that's not the case like that's just it's maybe

something off in the distance or something Completely

out there, but you know trailers we can't be

deceiving. That's kind of the impression I got

I think Zack Snyder's fighting Superman That's

true so Chuck I know you probably you're the

biggest Superman fan out of all of us So what

did you think of this trailer? I? Definitely

liked it better than the first trailer. I will

say that I was surprised how long it was. I think

it was over three minutes so there was definitely

a lot jammed in there and I don't know if part

of that was to try to Make up for people's displeasure

of the first one. So maybe they're trying to

win people back over. I don't know but There

was a lot of cool stuff in this one and it did

leave me a little bit more excited than I was

previously There's a lot of cool stuff that I

saw in it. There's still some questions I have

still some concerns that I'm kind of worried

about but I'll start with a couple of cool things

I liked was and this is just a hunch but when

you see Ben Affleck as Bruce Wayne he's running

towards his building and you sort of see the

the heat vision like cutting through the sides

of the building and stuff that's like the final

battle between superman and zod and he runs into

this dust cloud and he saves that little girl

he's kind of hugging her i kind of got the vibe

i don't know about you guys but i got the vibe

that like maybe she just lost her parents and

i think like bruce related to her i mean this

is all conjecture but i get the feeling that

he relates to her since he lost his parents and

maybe he just takes it personally and goes off

the deep end We'll see if that comes to pass,

but I thought that was kind of interesting at

least thinking that in my own head taking that

direction, but yeah the the other thing was uh

It kind of seems like Alfred's gonna play a fairly

significant role in this like as sort of a significant

like a supporting person to Bruce like which

he definitely is in the comics and I mean they

got into that a little bit more with in the Christopher

Nolan movies, which was cool, but Other than

that, they never really focused much on Alfred.

So it'd be kind of interesting to see how much

he's like playing on Bruce's mind, because he's

telling him like towards the end of the trailer,

like he's not your enemy. Like, why are you fighting

him and stuff like that? And it kind of looks

like Bruce is maybe going a little bit too far

off the deep end or something. But I thought

that was interesting. I thought. You know seeing

Perry White there and Clark working at the newspaper

I think that'll be interesting to see more of

the Clark Kent side of that persona Because we

they always focus on the Superman So I'm really

interested in how he can portray the character

of Clark Kent. Like is he gonna pull off that

sort of like clumsy mild -mannered person that

You know to throw off his identity so nobody

knows. But he already revealed it to Lois in

the first one, which is kind of weird, but. Or

she figured it out before he told her. Yeah.

They actually, I did read an issue of Superman

and they have a really cool thing going on in

Superman right now in the comics. Wait a minute,

you read an issue? Yes, because it had the new

Batman in it and I wanted to... catch up with

all this new batman stuff that's going on so

i actually did read it and they do have an interesting

concept going on in there with superman so i'm

kind of if i'm going to read superman i think

i'd be more into this superman that they have

going on right now in the new 52 yes in the new

52 yeah where he's just in a t -shirt and jeans

I haven't read any of the New 52 stuff, but I've

heard people say that he's like more cocky, sort

of like, he has more of like an attitude or something.

Well, his, well, that kind of you get from the

DC thing, but from the animated movie that came

out that we all watched. But in this, he's kind

of lost a little bit of his powers. He can't

fly. He's lost a little bit of his strength and

everything, and his identity has kind of, is

kind of revealed out there. And it's out in the

world. So everybody knows Clark Kent is Superman.

So it's I like the fact that he's kind of a little

bit depowered because you know I didn't like

Superman because he was like Untouchable kind

of and they made him a little bit more He definitely

would have liked him in the silver age because

he was like he could He pulled like 12 planets

behind him with a chain What kind of chain is

that? Who made the chain? Really large chain.

It's probably adamantium. I don't know. Yeah,

back to the movie. I think I did see Wonder Woman

in there quickly. Like you said, I'm curious

to see what they're doing with her. If she's

in there for a good deal of it or if it's just

a short part. She does look like a goddess though,

Gal Gadot or however you say her name. Gorgeous.

Gal Gadot. Yeah. Gorgeous. Sorry. pervy, pervy

interruption. No, that's all right. Yeah, I'm

pretty interested to see how they portray her

fighting skills and stuff like that. That should

be pretty cool. And I guess the only other thing,

the one thing that kind of bothered me is Diane

Lane is back as Martha Kent, but they were kind

of showing some of her dialogue. Yeah. And I

don't know, like, I kind of get what she was

saying, but it didn't really hit me right. Like,

it just didn't seem like the Martha Kent that

I... She was kind of dickish she was like fuck

those people kind of yeah She's kind of like

you she's like you don't know these people anything

you never have I'm like that's not Martha Kent.

She would not say that at all. I Don't know what

what Zack Snyder has with the you know, the Kent

parents. He's like, yeah, they're kind of horrible

people Should I let all those kids die on the

bus? Yeah. Yeah, sure. Yeah, I mean, they might

find out that you're, like, really strong. We

don't want that to happen. Just fucking let them

die. No, but maybe it's, like, a misdirection.

Maybe it'll, like, maybe it's taken out of context,

so it'll be different in the film. I don't know,

but... I would say it starts off pretty well,

because it's, you know, telling him to be that

hero, or... I do wonder if it's... You see the

full scene ends up making more sense. But I remember

thinking the same thing about the trailer for

Man of Steel when the young Clark Kenton's like,

should I let this kid die? And he's like, yeah,

maybe. And I'm thinking, oh, it must have been

taken out of context. And it wasn't. That was

the context. Jonathan Kent is a killer. They're

kind of dicks anyway, so who really cares? Teenagers

are annoying, just a little bit. Now I get what

you saying I like how she was saying, you know

either be the hero or don't like commit to it

if you're gonna do it and I you know, I take

it that he fully commits to it and goes all out,

but It just it's something's off there about

the kents. I don't I don't Really be the scrolls.

We don't you don't know. Yeah, maybe I don't

know Do you do you think we get kryptonite in

this up in this version of it be? Can I say yes

because lex luther is like almost fondling it

like a giant ball at one point a giant testicle

Wait, I remember he's caressing everything lex

luther has like the touchy feely thing going

on Yeah, and I don't get the red capes are coming

comment because there's only one person with

a red cape. So yeah Yeah, that was really really

strange even the way he said it like Yeah, I

don't know. He's acting like he was kind of crazy.

Yeah, it's I would say I do think I over I've

been relatively negative but I am much more excited

after this one in the first one mostly because

of the Concepts of Batman and Superman seeing

them together. I think that's gonna be a lot

of fun That's that that sequence within them

going toe -to -toe, you know, I do I do love

the image of him like Kind of just opening a

superman opening up the batmobile and them just

like staring down each other The opening sequence

of seeing Batman run into the cloud of dust while

the ones running away like that's pretty cool

like that I think that's a pretty good good moment.

So that was interesting. That was that was my

only really favorite part of that Really and

putting Batman within the city as that's going

on. It's a little bit of a comp out but I think

it does at least Make the reason for them to

fight each other a little bit more Little bit

more interesting. So yeah How about the the shot

we see of? Batman using his grappling hook jumping

off the top of the building. That's pretty cool.

Yeah. Yeah or the I saw how it was a meme or

something on the on online I think was reddit

and it shows a thing It's like, you know, you

know shit's going down when Batman has to call

Batman because he's like turning the best single

on Yeah, that's pretty true. I'm going to go

ahead and call for the real Batman. Christian

Bale shows up. Christian Bale, where are you?

I thought, Affleck, he didn't say much in the

trailer, but I thought you looked the part for

sure. I do like the little image of him pulling

a tire, I guess training or what have you. I'm

always for a training montage. That's always

good. Yeah, definitely. Superman's like... Superman's

pulling the truck that the tire was off But of

course DC could not be out undone or it cannot

stop there at least because there's another trailer

that was released Another that the movie that's

gonna come out out after Batman or Superman and

that of course is Suicide Squad Also was apparently

not gonna be released, but then it got leaked

so then they eventually did release it in full

form which goes to show you just the craziness

of all that, but Chuck Meeble will start with

you here. I would say on the surface, the tone

that Man of Steel and Batman vs Superman have

seems like it would work better. With Suicide

Squad considering the content, what did you think

of the actual trailer? I liked it. I didn't,

I guess, I didn't love it right away. I was trying

to get my head around kind of what they were

doing, but it's very, very grown up to me. Like

it looks pretty dark. I know Batman versus Superman

sort of looks dark in a way, but this looks even

darker. Kind of going along with that, I like

Will Smith a lot, but he almost seems out of

place in this trailer so far. It's weird. I mean,

it's definitely be a good test for him to sort

of round out his acting experience. This is something

a little bit... Different I guess like I know

he's done action stuff before but this is like

I guess to another level or Everyone's on this

team is sort of like crazy in their own way.

Yeah, it's it's weird seeing him as like a just

another piece of it because Usually he's like

the coast the main star or the cup there at least

like the elite seem as just like you know, the

third build, or at least the, I don't know how

the team dynamic is gonna be, but it doesn't

seem like they were really pushing him as a major

element of the movie. He just seemed like a side

character. Yeah. So that, I mean, he seemed a

little bit out of place. I'm guessing it'll probably

be better, you know, once you actually see the

whole thing. But I like, I like the fact that

we're getting a little crossover here. You see,

you see Batfleck on top of the car. That's pretty

cool. I know they had said some rumors about

him appearing in this and getting to see him

on the on top of the car was pretty cool. Harley

Quinn looked interesting, I guess. She looked

really creepy, you know, like in the iron prison

bars and stuff like that. And it was like interesting

choice of music to like that creepy song they

were singing, like it kind of sets the whole

mood and the whole thing. But. Definitely a very

eerie feel to the whole thing. And then obviously

it ends with, you know, the Joker there. And

that's just... That's interesting as well. I

don't have a problem with just the little bit

I saw of him, like... I don't question really

his acting or the way he's approaching the character,

but... the design of him himself, like with all

the tattoos and it's just, it just seems so overboard.

Like he's got the grill, you know, the teeth

and everything. And it's just like, they're trying

too hard to say this is the Joker. He's got like

ha ha tattoos all over his arms and stuff. And

like big, like a big picture of a smiling mouth,

like with the tongue out and stuff. I don't know.

Do you think that would have worked better if

we didn't get that image that we saw a month

or so ago? If that was just a small glimpse,

would it not be as jarring considering we kind

of have a better idea of what he looks like overall?

No, I don't think so. I think it still kind of

struck me funny even though I knew that's what

he looked like. I don't know, I can't really

put my finger on it. He sounds good. I like his

accent. I mean you get a little glimpse of the

laugh there, which is kind of cool That actually

sounded pretty cool. I'm just hoping they can

sell me on the look as I'm watching the film.

Yeah Greg, what did you think? Yeah, I like the

Amanda Waller's thing at the beginning explaining

everything and that really intense meeting with

whomever she was with I thought that was kind

of cool because it kind of hearkened me back

to the Batman animated stuff and the Batman Beyond

scenario with where she's really old and everything,

so I thought that was kind of neat. Didn't like

how Harley Quinn looked. The acting for that

was alright. Will Smith... I kind of thought

he had a big part in the trailer at least. I

kind of disagree with you, Chuck. I'm sorry.

I didn't like Joker at all. That version of Joker

does not scare me one bit. I feel like he's just

any kind of villain. I didn't really say I liked

him. I just kind of like his accent. Well, I

didn't care for his accent, but that's neither

here nor there. He just didn't do anything for

me. Overall, there's no characters in there that

didn't really do anything for me overall. After

the Amanda Waller thing, I kind of got a little

bit bored to be quite honest. They didn't really

set anything up for the most part. It was just

kind of pretty pictures and some nice music going

for the most part. That's all I got out of that

trailer. It didn't hit anything home for me.

Interesting I guess I'll all be the the minority

here because I I Really liked Lido and his look

I agree that there's there are certain improvements

that they could have made the tattoos a little

bit step too far You know I've seen other images

of him on set where it's more the classic look

which may be an improvement But I don't like

the for the little bit that we got of him I I

don't know if scary is the right word, but I

certainly there was something different about

him the direction he was taking that I am definitely

more interested in and Even same thing with Harley

Quinn. I thought something about her seems a

little bit Kooky in a good way and I really think

that that dynamic between those two characters

Joker and Harley could could be the best part

of the entire film Will Smith I think he was

fine in it. It just it does seem like he's out

of place The look of it is consistent with the

looks of the other movies that have come so far

You know that it makes sense for the most part

some of the characters though though the one

guy who's like He's more CGI or he's got like

a mask on I forget like Oh Killer Croc Yeah,

Killer Croc. His look is really corny to me.

I think even he looks worse in the apocalypse

honestly and I'm glad that the Batman is gonna

be in this it didn't sit like give you an idea,

but I did think Amanda Waller started off. I

thought was great looking forward to seeing her

character You know, she certainly nails up that

role if you had asked me which one I'm more excited

about I'm probably I don't know. I'm probably

a little bit more excited with Suicide Squad

just because it's such a wild card of not really

knowing what it's going to be. I don't know anything

else about that movie we want to talk about.

Exactly. I can't think of anything. Yeah, not

much else to go on. Maybe we'll switch things

up a little bit and get out of movies. And there

were some TV trailers that came out too. Most

notably TV trailer for a series I'd never thought

would actually happen. And that's ash first evil

dead and i don't believe a lot of talk about

here but greg i thought i'd give you a shot cuz

i know you are a fan of the evil dead series

are you i am even though i do not like sam raimi's

spider man i just like that they. The old series

i didn't see the newer movie cuz it didn't look

like it fit in with the old standard of all but

the this tv show looks excellent they have bruce

campbell back. who is amazing in pretty much

everything he is in and they're definitely making

it more that funny horror type of thing. It's

very kooky, insane with what's going on. A lot

of comedy in there but it's it's like a be rated

whore there's a lot of schlock going on and just

weird stuff going on like you had a crazy like

little mannequin attacking Bruce Campbell's face

which he harkens back to. When he fought his

hands well not when he fought his hands but there

was another one where he fought many versions

of himself and i was trying to which was already

darkness. Yeah i think so i'm just trying to

remember which one it is cuz there's. There's

one and two are basically the same movie. And

then third one is Army of Darkness, I believe,

where he fights like a little miniature versions

of himself, which is just freaking crazy. But

that that looks awesome. I wish I had stars so

I can actually watch it, but I do not. Yeah,

I didn't know it was going to be a TV series.

Like I thought it was going to be like, I don't

know, like a VOD movie or something like that

or even just like a comic. And I'm like, oh,

this is actually something that's existing and

being made. And I can see it. Are you at all

worried that Bruce Campbell is a little too old

to play that part? No, because they kind of joked

about it at the beginning with him there in that

corset. So that that really. Doesn't bother me

and they're they're kind of making fun of that

fact and they're leaving it kind of A light and

funny so I don't have an issue with that Yeah,

I mean me either. I I hope they don't Lie on

that type of humor too much where it gets a little

bit tiresome, but I am intrigued by it. I Don't

even know if I think I had a preview for stars

I don't know if I even have it but it does it

does kind of stink that it's on stars Hopefully

it'll come on Netflix or something And I think

that pilots can be directed by Sam Raimi and

it certainly has a style all over it So when

you said you didn't see the updated version you

talking that you didn't see the new evil dead

that you did see army of doctors I didn't see

that that super recent one where they kind of

did go like Actual horror with it. Yeah the remake

it was certainly very gory and it was the biggest

change I guess was that ash was a girl and They've

changed a little bit things, but it's okay. It's

you don't need to rush out to see it This is

I think more in line with army of darkness because

there's like you said more of a schlockiness

to it There's gore, but it's it's horny with

like a wink. Yeah, it's scary, but not really

scary. It knows what it's supposed to be Yeah,

it's certainly a lot of fun. That's like I think

to be the goal of it. So well, it'll be cool

I'm glad to see it and you know Maybe we'll have

a musical episode because I don't know if you

know there was actually a army of darkness musical

For a while that was actually pretty funny. So

I did not know they'll pull out a musical That's

not a field enough And I don't know if you saw

this trailer Greg is I know you haven't been

keeping up with Walking Dead But I know Chuck

you did and it's a trailer for the new Walking

Dead series for the Walking Dead What did you

think of that? I? Thought that was pretty interesting.

It looked pretty cool to me. I Think like what

I like about it is it looks to be more about

the early stages of of the virus spreading and

kind of events unfolding and you see people fighting

back and everything because like in the regular

Walking Dead series it kind of glossed over all

that stuff and it really picks up after all that's

already taken place and you know the infection

is like well on its way and everything and when

Rick comes out of the hospital and stuff so this

I'm sort of interested in seeing how things unfold

and how people deal with it and everything and

Really, my only concern is that I hope the characters

are just as likable as the original. Yeah, my

other concern is when you think about it, right,

like walking, the thing that's intriguing about

Walking Dead is that it picks up where most zombie

movies end. So that's what's different about

it. It is that zombie movie that never ends where

if you're the walking dead seems to be following

the pattern where we've seen other zombie movies

do, you know, where you that they first start.

Appearing people don't know what it is and you

have that Terminal that ensues not that necessarily

that's a bad thing because it'll be I think Interesting

just to see how that took place in the walking

dead world knowing where it came. I Do worry

about the characters a little bit. I do love

the fact that it is in a complete new location

So I think that's a good idea. So you get you

don't have to worry about Doing crossovers or

anything like that. It can be its own thing So

and then I think that's also the smart way of

placing it with a prequel type of timeline. And

not only a different place but an entirely different

setting because they promised that there will

be no wood scenes at all. Really, I didn't know

they promised no wood scenes. Yeah, they said

it because because you know, the regular series

is pretty much all in the woods now Or was for

a while there, but they said like all pretty

much all urban setting stuff for this one interesting

Cut that tree down cut the no trees That all

leads a lot of fun things I think because you

think about walking that it kind of gets a comp

out for food because they just go hunting and

they're all kills a deer so they have food, but

when you're in urban setting, you don't have

as many options. I guess they'll be eating a

lot of rat, maybe. I don't know. Rat and stray

dog? Delicious, delicious rat. Yeah. Did you

see the trailer, Greg? I'm guessing you didn't

catch up with that once you've been behind with

walking dead. No, I didn't. I'm sorry. Oh, it's

not worse. I would say if you're worried that

it would spoil things for Walking Dead, don't

be, because it doesn't get into anything for

that. Forgive me, Daniel, for I have sinned.

I know. How dare you. I dare you. I'm hoping

this series kind of gets into what actually caused

this virus. Yeah. I'm like, I've really been

searching for that this entire time watching

the original show. I'm like, what the hell started

it? I'm like, where did this come from? And I'm

like Brad Pitt in World War Z. I'm looking for

patient zero. So I'm kind of hoping that they.

touch on that at least somewhat like yeah even

in the first series like my favorite episode

was the cdc episode because it sort of explains

a little bit anyway yeah it it's it's uh that

that common mystery when it comes to zombie films

that like they don't Necessarily tell you like

the dawn of the dead series They'd never really

said and then song of the dead has a pretty funny

running joke regarding the cause of the of the

zombie epidemic so that's a question will will

say where it came from so that's That'll be the

one thing it can probably You could probably

go down and then if it does reveal that that

does maybe give them a compound a way to end

the series that in walking dead because you have

Maybe a way to fix it all or something like that.

So Yeah, maybe like that'll be the big bomb that

they drop at the end of the regular Walking Dead

series or something that like the virus started

with like Miley Cyrus or something. It came in

like a wrecking ball. It did. It started with

the twerking and then it didn't stop. Yeah. Those

weird faces she was making, that's really where

it started. Yeah. I could see that. I could see

that. Were there any other news we didn't pick

up? I had a few other ones, but I wanted to see

if there's any specific things you guys wanted

to talk about. There is one thing I wanted to

touch on really quickly, and the last trailer

for Fantastic Four was released. Oh, was it?

That's pretty much it. I want to like that movie

and I've been kind of defending it, but every

trailer that's come out, the last one just...

Did you so you saw the new one that came out

the other day I did I did Yeah, it's just the

thing I worried about most is this dark to doom

like his look is just he just it Why can't they

get that character right? Why can't you just

give the guy a metal mask? What are you gonna

be weird about it? Just give me a little mask

What did you think of did you like it or did

you were you not a fan I was not a fan it really

like I think even lessened my interest more than

Like I I honestly think I probably won't even

see it in the theater I'll probably just wait

till it comes out like yeah box or something

I'm just not invested in this at all like for

some reason even the actors like really aren't

intriguing me at all like I know they're all

good actors in their own right and In past movies

they've done and everything like I like Kate

Mara a lot and stuff and I know you said you're

a big Michael B Jordan fan and everything But

it's just they don't seem to gel to me at least

in the trailers. I don't know No, I agree and

they don't feel like they let Michael B Jordan

be that Johnny Storm character It does seem super

serious. It almost feels more like a DC film

than it does a Marvel film Which is weird to

say because you think about 15 20 years ago Marvel

was the one that was super serious in DC was

and it's kind of had a You know flipped on its

head with it with these movies. So yeah Greg

was anything you wanted any stories that kind

of caught your eye at all? I'm trying to think

here. Did you catch the Deadpool trailer? I did

catch the Deadpool trailer good good move. I

did see the back of the theater It's tough to

judge because the video quality is so atrocious,

but it looks really good from what you can tell.

It looks like it's got that humor that you're

expecting. And they do show that little bit that

they had in that little animatic. They did have

that, but they changed it up a little bit. It

was him kind of saying his funny parts. beforehand

and kind of that action scene kind of just changed

to a musical montage type of thing. And then

I also liked T .J. Miller as Weasel going back

and forth with Deadpool talking about Deadpool's

unmasked face and how horrible it looks. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know. Chuck, did you see the Deadpool

trailer at all? Did not I didn't get a chance

to yeah, I don't kind of had a hard time finding

it Yeah, it was every time I got pulled up a

gap pulled back down It was like Greg said the

quality wasn't all that great But I think you'll

be excited because it seems like one of your

favorite characters is playing a major role in

it Or at least based on the trailer and that's

Colossus. No. Oh, yeah Freakin Colossus. I remember

hearing things that he might be in the movie

but like he at least has a few sequences at least

from what I can tell was hard to hard to really

see, but it seems like he does have a number

of sequences within the film, so that's going

to be kind of cool seeing him in a completely

different setting. Yeah, you might actually see

him kick some ass in this one. You might actually

see him have more than four words to say, even

though he's been in two movies already. I know.

We have nearly as much dialogue in the X -Men

franchise as he does. I do hope it's just not

too much with the like pushing the humor I mean

obviously you need humor, but I just it's not

overloaded with like the I don't know It tries

too hard to be funny. I hope there's enough seriousness

not seriousness, but it picks its spots a little

bit more But I thought the action looked fun

had the one shot of like the like the triple

kill like that was really cool I like that a

lot and I love the look of Deadpool and how they

you know, they CGI I'm assuming they CGI the

eyes at least it looks like that But I think

it's a little bit of an interesting touch because

it just makes him stand out that much more so

I'm really excited of all the comic book movie

stuff where you We've been seeing I think that's

the one I feel the most excited for. Oh, yeah,

definitely And I gotta find this And it should

be out soon. I might be able to hook you up if

I still have a link for it So it's not the greatest.

It's hard to it's like it's a squint and it's

very hard to judge. Yeah You're better off looking

at like old -school porn on a scrambled channel

than you are watching this trailer And I was

searching high and low for not for scrambled

porn that'd be weird but for Like comic book

news that came out in comic -con and there wasn't

a lot Marvel actually didn't really release that

much the biggest thing Marvel released was that

they were gonna have a crossover with Star War

or with Vader and the other Star Wars books and

I was thinking a lot of reaction where it's like

Oh, I can't wait for this crossover. I'm like,

do you mean like Star Wars? Cuz that's like what

that movie is about. I don't know why this is

That's kind of happened. He's kind of got involved

with the other rebel characters, but I'd have

I've liked the Star Wars books. I'm looking forward

to that. But the premise of it seemed interesting

though where he's kind of like Deserted on this

planet and it's like him and a whole bunch of

rebels there or whatever. Yeah That does seem

cool. It's also seem like him in a new dynamic.

Have you read the Darth Vader series at all Greg?

No, I've been sticking with just regular Star

Wars and Princess Leia I haven't really ventured

out from that too much Like the Vader series

for the most part. I've only ever had up to I

think issue four It's it's I think it's hard

to write for Vader because you know Vader's Emasculated

yeah that or he's not you know, he's not the

most Emotionally death character in the world.

He's kind of he's just one thing So it's it's

just weird seeing him in different situations,

but I think overall they've handled it well and

it was arch pretty good as well for the most

part the Like the look of here at least has been

pretty cool. So I would I would maybe if you

see trade I think it's worth picking up but I

was hoping there would be more Star Wars stuff

in general that came out over the oh Yeah, did

you see the like the bat behind the scenes video?

I did see that that was really cool. Actually,

that's all I need Like you don't even need to

show me a trailer like that has me excited. Yeah

I saw Greg's good buddy Peter Mayhew on there

Yeah, I Guess Simon Pegg is playing like a like

just some sort of random alien or something like

that. Nice. I love Simon Pegg. Yeah That was

cool. But uh The other there's some DC news where

they're gonna have a crossover with Batman and

the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Because why

not, you know, so sure but I don't know any anything

else you wanted to pick up before we do have

a letter from a fan that we can discuss. Oh,

another fan. Yeah. What do we have, like three

listeners now? No, I don't think so. I did actually

have a quick Star Wars related story, guys, pertaining

to Star Wars graphic novel, which it's kind of

a cop out for sticking it in here, but it is

somewhat relatable. But I've stopped at Books

of Million the other day after work and You know

they have like a discount section where stuff's

like really marked down and everything. Yep.

And they had a lot of Star Wars books on sale.

And a lot of them were like $4. Well. So I picked

up a couple of them. I got this one that's called

Star Wars Honor and Duty. Which is pretty cool.

Duty. And he said honor. Honor or duty. And then

I also get the graphic novel adaptation of the

episode two movie and stuff like that. So I'm

checking out and the honor and duty book is on

top and the guy like, the guy rings me out, right?

And he prints the receipt out and Greg will get

this because you're like... You're like me, you're

very picky about how your books look and everything

has to be, you know, sharp corners and no dings

or dents or frays or anything like it's got to

look really good. And I'm kind of crazy about

that, too. So he prints the receipt out and.

Like there was like this thing he was showing

me on the receipt with some kind of survey that

you go home and take online, and he's like. you

know, circling stuff on the receipt, but he sets

it on top of the book. And so he's creasing the

book. Yeah, so he's circling stuff and he's writing

and I'm like, oh gosh, I'm like, I don't know

if this is denting it, but I hope it's not. So

he's like, oh yeah, take the survey. And he's

like circling shit and writing stuff all over

the receipt and everything. So I'm like, okay,

yeah, thanks. And I walked away and I kind of

like tipped it to look in the light and there's

scribble marks all over the cover. Like crease.

I'm like, ah, damn it. And I didn't want to be

like a total jerk and like, you know, call them

out on it. So I kind of just hung out there for

a second until the next person went. And I was

like, I was like, oh, I didn't realize this stuff.

The covers kind of messed up on this one. You

mind if I get another copy of it? He's like,

Oh no, sure. Go ahead. So I, I set my books there

and I went and got another duplicate copy and

brought it back. And I think he realized what

he did while I was gone. Cause I came back and

he's like, I'm so sorry. He's like, I didn't

realize what I was doing. I'm sorry. I'm like,

oh, that's cool. No problem. I just played it

cool. So never do it again. Secretly inside,

I'm like, what are you doing? You don't know

anything about comics. You never write on top

of them. Even for a regular book, why would you

do that? That is insane. I thought you were going

to say you went back up and you did it again.

No, luckily he didn't have to ring me out again

because it was the exact same copy. I just switched

it out. That's funny. That's funny. Anyway, I

digress. Uh, we usually end each episode with

a letter and last week we had a fan write a letter,

but this one, a fan, another fan wrote a letter,

but it was more of a question for us that I thought

maybe we can touch upon real quick. Since we

are talking about comic stuff and this is more

comic book related, it's been, I apologize, it's

been a little bit since I've got to this, but

Brian Jackson wrote us a letter and he has said,

uh, hey, talking in circles, I figured it was

time to paint the piper and write you like you

requested. I'm not talented enough to write a

letter if I can do it, anyone can, so I don't

need to say that, but I do have a couple of questions

I would be interested in hearing your response

to. What do you guys think about Miles Morales

becoming the new Spider -Man for the Marvel regular

universe? Are you okay with this? If it means

the end of Peter Parker? Is this Marvel just

changing for change sake looking forward to hearing

your responses Brian, uh, I don't know if you

guys know but there was Announcements, uh, man

might have been about a month ago by now that

After this current event that's going on in the

marvel Universe, I guess comic book universe

that miles morales will be like the head spider

-man From what i'm reading peter parker is still

gonna exist. He's not going away, but I guess

he'll be doing his own thing But my worst malice

is going to be more on the forefront than he

was Previously, and I know that of course because

of any change like this There's some sort of

controversy because it's calling books and that's

how things work. So Like brian asked you guys

have any opinions on this change at all of you?

Do you mind it? Do you care? Do you think it's

just not going to really matter because I'll

change it back in a few weeks? It doesn't bother

me because they're trying to progress Peter Parker's

character to something different, and they're

bringing in Miles Morales to kind of fill in

that role that's being vacated by Spider -Man

as this young hero. that's that's kind of coming

in and has to go to school and everything and

kind of has a whole bunch of a lot of stuff happening

to him as whereas we can finally experience Peter

Parker finally getting his just desserts of of

finally being able to have money and not have

money issues and maybe get relationships together

and I think it's kind of interesting because

he'll be kind of more of a Tony Stark because

his business has really upped his game and also

we get a more international kind of Spiderman

kind of Go in different places to to be spider

-man. I don't really care love alex ross's, uh

artwork But I don't care for his take on the

spider -man suit and all he really did was make

a little bit of a blue glow around the The spider

on his chest and the blue put a little blue in

his eyes. Um I just was that for myles morales

was that for the that's that that's for peter

parker. I don't I don't mind uh, myles morales's

with the the black and and read. It's kind of

a symbiotic plus regular version of Spider -Man.

But I don't mind Miles Morales. I haven't read

him that much because I haven't been reading

Spider -Man altogether too much since they made

that change where they were going to un -marry

Mary Jane and Peter Parker. I just thought it

was weird. And I think now they're trying to

backtrack to kind of make up for that. Yeah.

I don't know, Chuck. Have you been keeping up

with any of this at all? Not a whole lot. I really

haven't read anything to do with Miles Morales,

to be honest. I know he was created partly by

Bride Michael Bendis, so I hate him. I mean,

I don't know a whole lot about him. I know a

little bit. I guess he got his powers in a similar

way. He was bitten by a spider that had the Oz

formula or something. I guess maybe it's similar

to the movie or whatever. They kind of had the

Osborn formula. Yeah, I'm not really sure but

he does come from the ultimate universe. So it's

a little bit of a difference and I really have

a problem. You know, I'm kind of along the lines

of Greg Lake, you know, when they get to a point

where they're trying to change an existing character

too much, you start ticking off a lot of fans,

a lot of hardcore fans and stuff. And if you

if you have a mold that you want to fit something

into, There's nothing wrong with going and creating

a new character to fit that. That's fine. I'd

rather see them do that than change something

classic beyond recognition, and you kind of tick

everyone off. And I mean, if anything, I think

it adds a little more relatability to readers

and stuff, because it's like a lot of kids want

to be like Spider -Man. So now you see a new

character that gets his same powers. I think

it's more relatable of anything. Yeah, I mean,

I think the benefit of this, you have two strong

characters and it gets to the point where Peter

Parker can't be that young kid anymore. He's

been doing it since the 60s. Eventually, it's

comic books, but still you need characters to

develop for them to stay interesting. Greg mentioned

for him for Spider -Man to go in a different

direction. I think that does open up a opportunity

and I've read a limited amount of miles from

Morales. I've had the most recent series with

the Ultimates. I thought was really great. There

is this one. One issue with him and his father

like their dynamic is really cool because his

dad was like a former shield agent, but there's

some. Questions there. He is similar to Peter

Parker He has interesting family dynamics that

leads to a lot of drama and he's similar enough

to Peter Parker But also different it's like

certainly a different twist on it But so I think

it really works and honestly if you look at us

Secret Wars storyline that's going on it almost

feels the entire purpose of it was to ending

the ultimate universe and what they did was take

like the last good thing that it had which was

myles morales and bring him into the normal universe

so it makes sense and I think a lot of people

got caught up in the fact that oh the race thing

but I think it at this point that character is

beyond that you know it's that he's establishes

himself as a a good character and yet he's racist

part of who he is, but it's not the defining

part of it. So I think that was maybe the highlight

or the headline, but I don't really think that's

the motivational purpose behind it. I think it's

more of a character choice than it is some sort

of example of social justice or something like

that. I think it's, I think people are just maybe

looking at that because that's what gets attention.

We have some more questions. There's actually

another question email. I mean we can get to

next week. I apologize We haven't got to it,

but if you do want to send us emails, which are

great So we are looking forward to it It makes

our jobs a lot easier because writing those letters

doesn't get does get kind of hard but the do

-so what you can do is email us at feedback eggycastreader

.com or Talking in circles at live .com. We're

on Facebook and Twitter. Just search talking

in circles GCRN and you guys are also on Twitter.

What are your Twitter names? I am at Heroic Age

Chuck. I am at the Create Forge. And I am at

Movie Revolt, but that'll be it for us for this

week. We'll be back next week, same time, same

channel, same podcast feed, but for now. This

has been Chuck. This has been Greg, or Ash, and

don't piss me off or I'm gonna use my boomstick

to blow your face off. Man, that is violence

and this has been Dan and we've been talking

in circles. We'll see you next week. That's a

long name. Talking in circles! I love the inflection

you put on there. Yeah, you know, as much energy

as I have, once this is over we're gonna fall

asleep immediately. Drop like a bag of dimes.

Damn you, Connor!