Talking in Circles
Revisiting Your List of Shame

About this Episode
Hey, Tara Strong here, and you're listening to
the Geekcast Radio Network. You are now on the
inside of what I like to call the circle of trust.
We are all connected in a great circle of life.
You know something, Bert? I think you and I are
going in circles. It feels like we're going in
circles. The circuit is not complete. When I
left you, I was but the third. Now I am the last.
Because it's a circle. Yeah, we heard about the
circle. Yeah, it's what millions would change.
Hi, this is Greg. This is Chuck. And this is
Dan, and we are Talking in Circles brought to
you by the Geekcast Radio Network. the podcast
is trying to become just a tad bit less shameful.
I say that because today we will be revisiting
our list of shame that we did a few months ago
and seeing if we were able to scratch off some
of those geek properties that we haven't caught
up with and kind of go over those and, you know,
see if we thought those iconic properties lived
up to the hype. But before we get to our list
of shame revisit, how's the week been going for
you guys? Not too eventful, but for some reason
I continue to have Negative experiences while
driving more cycles again. No, this time wasn't
motorcycles. It was this guy in a pickup truck
with hauling landscaping equipment nice, but
uh, we were getting off getting off of the interstate
and We've all seen the situation where there's
a yield sign and you kind of have to merge into
Traffic that's already moving in your direction.
But obviously, you know you want to kind of get
a look ahead while you're coming up to it so
if there's no one coming you just kind of keep
on rolling through you know yeah so this guy
in front of me apparently had no clue what a
yield sign was apparently thought it was a stop
sign oh that is that is always amazing and there
was literally no one coming like there was no
one even in sight and this guy stopped dead like
right in front of me and i'm like Like I double
checked. I'm like, what the hell is he stopping
for? So I beeped the horn at him, right? And
he like immediately his arm flies out the window
and he's like flipping me off. I'm like, what
the? How do how do I be the one that's right?
And then you're dead wrong and you're trying
to flip me off. Like, I can't stand that when
people do that. Like, I'm starting to think that.
It's not even worth beeping at people anymore
because like no one takes it how I intended which
is like they misinterpret your beep Yeah, like
in my head someone beeped at me. I would be like,
oh why they beeping at me Did I do something
wrong and I kind of like take a second and think
what the hell did I do? But everyone else pretty
much just immediately goes on the defensive and
starts flipping you off Yeah, I'd say I probably
more lean toward the ladder there If I get beeped
at, I'm like, what did I do? I didn't do anything
wrong. You're better off, I guess, just not even
beeping and avoiding all road rage at all costs,
I guess. Or like you misinterpret the beep, like
you peep at one person and someone else thinks
you're beeping at them. Yeah, no, it's like someone
you know and you beep and wave. The guy in front
of you is like flipping you off, like, no, I
didn't. It was not my intention. Greg, how's
things going with you? Ah, fine. I went to the
dentist this morning. That's always exciting.
Been told that I brush my teeth too hard. Didn't
know that was possible. But apparently I do,
and that's destroying my gum line. Yay! Didn't
know that was possible, guys. I didn't know that
you could brush your teeth too hard. I'm just
trying to get them clean here, people. I think
if you brush them too hard, you would notice,
like, paint. I know. Yep, they haven't noticed
any pain, just him going, yeah, your gum line's
receding. You should stop brushing your teeth
hard. I'm like, thanks, Doc. That's insane. I
didn't know you could do that. Yep, you can't.
All these things you got to worry about, you
know? It's like brushing it too hard, you know?
That's just insane. Yeah, I need to brush them
so I don't get cavities, but you can't brush
them too hard You need like a like, you know
in a video game give like the power bar or something
like that So, you know, you're in the right vicinity
like have your range Yeah, your your toothbrush
have like a power strip strip in it So it can
kind of like now you're you know, I got to stay
within the appropriate level When the light lights
up green you stay at that like intensity. Yeah
i'm just saying like this is a million dollar
idea That's all i'm saying why death in seven
come up with it. I don't know But uh, my week's
been pretty pretty on oral b Yeah, my week's
been pretty uneventful for the most part. Uh,
well kind of eventful Uh, not for me, but for
my wife because earlier this week actually when
this was airs She'll be on the news. I look well
the local news if that counts because she won
or was awarded I guess how you would say the
Teacher of the year award for yeah for news watch
12 or whatever in our area So the news came did
like a little story She got this nice little
plaque and all this other stuff It's interesting
because she's been on maternity leave for the
last like month or so if she actually had to
go into work for one day and Like they're like
filmer and then and so I get to spend the day
with with the little guy But it was cool. I'm
looking forward to seeing it on on TV tomorrow,
but she like she's worried She's like I really
screwed up the interview, but I'm like If podcasting
tells me anything, editing can make anything
sound good. And it can even make good things
sound bad. That's awesome. Congratulations, sir.
Yeah. So we got that going for us, which is nice.
Also, I haven't been able to go to the movie
theater a lot lately or just haven't had the
opportunity but I finally did this. What possible
excuse could you have for that? It's just been
too hot, you know, the weather. It's too warm
outside. But recently I did get the opportunity
and I was gonna go see Mad Max and like I didn't
know if it was because I was rusty but it became
the like a treacherous experience so I go - I'm
going on a Sunday morning, like the first showing.
I check on Saturday, get the - get the showing
to the next day. I'm like perfect 1030. My wife
has something to do at the time, so it actually
works really well. I get to the theater - I'm
like in line to get my ticket and notice like
the showing for it isn't showing up. I'm like
that's sold out I can't sold out. I mean, I literally
just opened so I'm like, oh good the kiosk It's
not there either and there's like it was a guy
there I'm like, do you what what happened to
the tension 30 showing of Mad Max? I'm like,
oh, it's canceled today because there's a church
there like that like does the service So they
took over the theater for that time frame for
when it would be showing normally so because
of the church Mad Maxism isn't playing I'm like
Crap. That sucks. The next showing's not until
like 4 30 or 1 30 or something like that, so
I can't just wait there. I'm like, okay, what
the hell am I gonna do? So I get on my phone
trying to find a theater near me and I got one
which is like, I have a list of theaters that
I don't go to and this one's on it. It's like
one of the worst theaters. It's not awful, but
it's not up to my personal standard, but. I'm
like, all right, well, it has a showing, but
it's like at 11, 11 .50, which is like an hour.
And it's a 30 minute drive, so it should be okay,
or 11 .50. So I'm like, I had some time to kill.
So I'm like, you know what I'll do? I'll go to
Chick -fil -A and get lunch and then go see my
movie. But I'll go to Chick -fil -A parking lot.
There's no one there. I'm like, why is it so
empty? I'm like, oh, it's Chick -fil -A that
closed on Sunday. I'm like, why? I can't do anything.
And then I get lunch and play styles. And I'm
looking through my phone again. And I realize
there was a closer theater that I. didn't check
that's one of the best theaters that had a better
showing time but it was too late to go to that
one because it literally was just starting so
it was just this huge kerfuffle of me getting
to go to this theater so but I finally did go
see the movie which was it I didn't it felt like
I'd never went to a theater before I'm usually
much more prepared but and then I had to see
in 3d too which was kind of annoying and but
I ended up actually being quite good because
3d was was actually added something to it and
usually I don't like 3d But I don't know if you
guys, I'm guessing, have not seen Mad Max at
all? Me, no. Okay. I did. I've been waiting to
see it forever. I know a lot of people have talked
about it, so I'm not really gonna mention a huge
deal of it. I would just say that I absolutely
loved it. If you've seen Road Warrior in those
films, in the Mad Max series, which I really
think the only good one is Road War - World Warrior,
Mad Max. The first film is interesting in its
place in history, but it's not very good, and
Thunderdome is, yeah, it has its moments, but...
Welcome to the Thunderdome, bitch! Yeah, just
like that. That's a good moment, but... A lot
of people have been saying that there's like
no plot to it, and I don't necessarily agree
there's no plot to it. I just think there's no
exposition to anything. It kind of just drops
you into this world. And the plot's really straightforward
and basic, but it's like the base - it's the
best elixir for a lot of the issues with summer
movies right now. Things like Transformers, even
the Avengers, that are too bloated with plot
and too - like, have too much going on. This
one's really straightforward. It's like there's
this - Mission that they have to get to and that's
basically it and it's like get a two -hour extended
chase, but we've done really well And the characters
are all I think are even strong because even
though they don't say a lot I think there they
do have development and they are interesting
Charlize Theron is a main character She plays
Furiosa who ends up being like probably the main
character of this movie in a lot of ways Tom
Hardy's in it being Tom Hardy but if you know
anything like George Miller the guy loves his
like Oddities his craziness and it's it very
much fits into that mold it's a lot of characters
just with deformities and feels like a world
that has been mutated because of radiation and
The actions of pieces in it to me are like some
of the best I've seen in a long while this gave
me the feeling I so much wanted from Avengers
it had that I just I was wowed I like I The last
like 30 minutes that piece or chase sequence
near that finishes it I thought I couldn't believe
the things they were doing and use the use of
practical stunts and some of the just The mind
that man must have to come up with some of the
stuff along with everyone involved. So I I don't
know how much you guys would dig it because it
is quite it's quite odd in a lot of ways the
characters are very out there and stuff like
that, but uh, I loved it. It's I would recommend
it most people have seen it already. So i'm just
kind of just Repeating a lot of what's been said,
but if you've been you know debating it I think
it's worth seeing and especially because it hopefully
will open the door out for more movies like it
so But yeah, I don't know and you guys have been
up to anything else like movie wise or anything
like that I think Chuck you've actually met you
saw like a classic film of that mistaken Yes,
I did actually I got to see something that we
were chatting a little bit about on Twitter this
week I forget why I came up, but we were talking
about one of the very first sci -fi movies ever
made and It wasn't even my intention to go and
watch it after we talked about it I just happened
to be browsing through Netflix and kind of looking
at my my list and everything and it gives you
like other suggestions and stuff and for some
reason at that on that exact same night It popped
up on my suggestions Netflix and that was live
way hours don't love you Wow, we just got really
classy here for a second or trip to the moon
and Another reason why I watched it too was I
looked at it and said it was only like 16 minutes
long Like how bad could it be I'm like, it's
like 15 minutes of my life. So But yeah, I'm
really not sure what I watched there It was it's
quite interesting. Have you guys seen it? It's
been a very long time It's like I watched this
one too where they like It was sort of remastered
in a way that they added new music to it Yeah,
so like the music was really weird It gave it
like an even even weirder feeling than it already
was because it's obviously a silent movie and
no one's talking but it didn't even have any
like, you know, like some of the old silent movies
would like break to a blank screen and they would
have the words and the dialogue, but it didn't
even do that. It's just like, you know, straight
action. It's nonstop loads of fun. Okay. A lot
of CGI, the CGI just seemed a little out there.
Yeah. The effects, I mean, obviously they're
pretty terrible by today's standards, but I'm
looking at. You know, it's made in 1902, so I'm
like, all right, I could kind of let that slide
a little bit, I guess. You know, they got some
cardboard cutouts of their spaceship and basically
their goal is to get a bunch of people get into
this capsule with no astronaut suits or anything
like that, just whatever they got on. They all
get in and they want to be blasted to the moon
through this giant cannon thing that sort of
looks like a huge telescope. And like the backgrounds
are like made out of cardboard and you can see
they're like painted and stuff. But the way they
did it though, for what they had to work with,
I read it was like, it was the whole project
was completed in like three months or something
like that. So it's kind of impressive with everything
that they had to design and build and everything
on the set. You know and then they get to them
to the moon. I don't want to spoil too much,
but for this 113 year old movie Yeah No, there's
people like lining up to see it, but it should
really release it in theaters again I mean, I'm
sure they have some like theaters that do would
like release it every so often or something like
that So should I do specials? I just I just wanted
to mention how one thing that I thought was hilarious
at one point when they get to the moon And they're
kind of exploring around and there's like really
weird psychedelic stuff that they're doing. There's
like the stars are like people's faces and stuff.
And they're kind of like hanging there from the
ceiling or whatever. And you can see the wires
that they're hanging from. And then they come
across these weird plants and like rock formations
and stuff. And they meet aliens that live on
the moon, like they're moon men. And it was funny,
like, they capture them and they take them back
to their leader or whatever. But I noticed they
have these really weird outfits, you know, pretty
good costume design, but they're wearing the
same shoes as the other actors. So moon men have
the same shoes as Earth people. Nike has a huge
workforce, man. They can really promote their
stuff. Apparently Nike was sending stuff to the
moon before 1902 so exactly exactly but but yeah,
it's it's a good It's a fun time just to kind
of look back and see what things were like back
then and how they you know They made these films,
but I mean I think the reason they came up because
for those who don't know the other broadcasts
I do and freaky cast cinema geeks Which we kind
of just rebranded and and with large up because
of Greg who did who made the awesome logo, which
is fantastic. And it's very much an homage to
that movie. It has the iconic symbol of the of
the moon with the thing in its eye and stuff
like that. So that's taken from that movie. So
if you're on Netflix, and then it's also got
a little little Jurassic Park in there, because
I know that's one of your favorites, Dan. It
is it is. So it was it's a good it's a good combo
of new and old and geeky and like, you know,
high fluid. So I'm a big fan of it. So hopefully
you guys are as well. So Dinosaurs on the moon,
there's a good picture. Well, next time, after
Jurassic World, I assume next would be Jurassic
Space. Jurassic Moon? Yeah, where the T -Rex
race off against the space pope. We've genetically
modified and crossed the t -rex with alien Or
like they'll do in the matchup with like armageddon
where they get a team of dinosaurs to go on to
an asteroid to to dig up And then they'll you
know cross raptors with predators and create
this army Yeah, wow a predator army of raptors.
That would be that would be intimidating and
they fight the terminator exactly Actually, one
little news story I figured we should bring up.
We talk about a lot of Marvel stuff, and I think
this is pertinent because we had an episode where
we did a review of the Daredevil series and some
rather big news dropped. And that's the fact
that not only have they indicated Punisher will
be in season two, but they've also named the
actor, Jon Bernthal, will be playing the Punisher
in season two of Daredevil, which is kind of,
I don't know, to me, a little bit surprising
that we... Guess that might happen or wish that
might happen and now it is so curious to hear
You know what you guys have to say about that.
I mean Greg I'll give you a little little chance
to speak here What were your thoughts on bringing
Punisher into the Daredevil universe for next
season? Well, the Daredevil universe is a lot
more I guess the word I want to severe then I
thought it was gonna be it's a lot more brutal
and I think With that brutality, I think the
Punisher would be a great fit in that world because
Punisher is pretty freaking brutal. The actor
who is playing the Punisher, I believe he was
the friend on Walking Dead. Yes, he played Shane
in Walking Dead, yeah. Yeah, Shane, which I'm
watching season three, by the way. Oh wow. at
the beginning of season three, which is kind
of where I'm at in the graphic novel. So that's
kind of interesting side by side comparison so
far. But anyway, I think he's a very capable
actor, and I think he looks like he would really
fit into that role. He looks like a Frank Castle
type. I'm not sure if this is going to sound
racist or not, since we don't usually say anything
that's not racist at all. But he looks very,
very Italian, like Frank Castle kind of does
in the comic books. He's got that kind of Garth
Ennis look with the hair. If you slicked back
his hair and everything, he's got that kind of
bulbous nose and everything. He's just got a
Punisher kind of look to him that I really like,
to be quite honest, and I can't wait to see him
as Frank Castle. I'm just hoping they get the
costuming right for him. No white go -go boots,
though. I like that in the comic books, but I
don't think it would work in the movies. Maybe
if they had fur. Yeah for fringe. Yeah, that'd
be kind of cool. What are your thoughts? Well,
maybe they could maybe they're like moon boots
so he could join the trip to the moon story Start
shooting all the aliens waiting for the Marvel
edition of you know a trip to the moon where?
Stan Lee shows up and it's like rocket raccoon.
It's like this is completely different. This
is nothing like the original It would be silent,
too Now I was kind of really surprised at that
pick actually I'm not, I can't say I'm really
disappointed or anything. I'm kind of excited
to see how he does. I got to say, I got to give
the guy props because he totally made me hate
his character on Walking Dead. So I guess that
means he was good as an actor, but like I, I
just hated his guts on Walking Dead. He's such
a slime ball. I don't know. But, um, obviously
he's kind of good at playing a sort of evil.
Not totally evil, but sort of an evil manipulative
type of thing, but a jerk. Yeah total jerk Kind
of guy, but we'll see how he does this castle
like I don't know I'm interested in his take
on it cuz like I Know a lot of people kind of
harp on the Tom Jane version, but I actually
love Tom Jane as Punisher I love the Tom Jane
version too. Yeah, and so I just recently actually
watched again the the Ray Stevens version, the
Punisher Warzone. And that was better than I
remembered it actually. He played it pretty well
too. So, I mean, I'm always welcome to different
interpretations of that. So I'm kind of eager
to see what this guy can do. Yeah. It actually
kind of gained a new found respect for that version
of it. Warzone when I listened to that like one
of the earliest how did this get made episodes
with the director and she kind of Went into it
and it was interesting Oh, yeah to like she kind
of went into it thinking it would be like a dark
comedy and if you go into that mindset It makes
so much more sense. But I still there's some
some choices or I'm like I don't I don't know
about that. But yeah, Newman. Yeah, I mean, the
guy JBR felt like as an actor, like for Walking
Dead, I was indifferent towards him toward there
are some moments where I just, I don't know,
I feel like he comes from like the wannabe Robert
De Niro School of Acting where like, He has a
lot of the same similar mannerisms. You can kind
of see the really evoking a step of style, but
he just he'd lack subtlety and sometimes but
I think that's actually good for this type of
role because I think that's kind of fits fits
the character of the Punisher and I did like
him a lot in Fury and in Wolf of Wall Street.
So and I'm not that I hated him in the Walking
Dead. I just I don't know. I thought that there
are some choices that I just questioned that
but that also could have been more of a direction
than than on him. I'm glad they're bringing in
the Punisher. I want to know how it's going to
be done. I worry that. Is it just, are they throwing
him in there for a reason? Is it just because?
I hope they don't have to do the origin of the
Punisher again, because that doesn't seem like
that's something you need to do. You can literally
explain that. I think they'll skip that. Yeah.
You can literally explain... It would be awesome
if they do what they did in the comics. They
had a lot of Punisher versus Daredevil type stuff
that played really awesome in the comic books.
Especially if they had Spider -Man involved.
That was a three -way battle that I always thought
was... that was always pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, and I think you can explain the Punisher
in, like, two lines of dialogue, you know, and
if anything you could use... we could learn about
him, like... through daredevil like daredevil
you can stumble upon daredevil and that you know
you can go through it that way so That that has
me intrigued I'm looking forward to it and I
you know Maybe it will lead to a Punisher series
because I think for everyone's always been talking
about Punisher would be bass in the TV series
So maybe this could you know be the foothold
into getting that done So and I've heard some
other rumors that you know, I think we talked
about it, but I doubt it's gonna happen You know
Jason Seatham and that talk, you know that do
bullseye which would be amazing That would be
awesome. I don't know if it would ever happen.
I was talking to Mike Powers on Twitter from
Geekcast Radio 2, and you mentioned, I guess,
Jason Statham did have some bad words to say
regarding Marvel's action overall, though. So
I don't know if that would hurt his chances of
joining their team. But yeah, I guess like a
couple of years ago or something, he said he
would never do a Marvel movie or something like
that. And it's not technically a movie. Right.
But see, people like some of the some spies or
whatever saw him like meeting with Marvel or
whatever and I know it's big rumors, but Spies
are Like yeah, like if they watching me at the
comic store like what I buy and everything like
That's what I do Chuck like okay You know, Avenger
stuff is up this week. This week is Punisher.
Yeah, like what, you know, what, like the vision
of NSA is the people that check out the Marvel
cast. It's like, we have news Jason Statham is
meeting with Marvel to discuss. Yeah. It's the
MSA, the Marvel security agency. Yeah. So it's
interesting. And I think sometimes people just
throw that stuff out there for clickbait, obviously.
But I think even Jason Statham might as well
as I would be cool. We'll see. We'll see. I think
you kind of have to bring in. Bullseye and Electra
next season, right? I mean, that's gotta be Yeah
All right. Anything else before we take a quick
break? Nope. Alrighty, so we'll take a quick
break and when we come back what we'll be doing
is kind of looking back at some of our list of
shame to see if we were able to catch up with
anything and then see if we could maybe reclaim
some of the geek cred that we lost so we'll see
you in a bit Hey guys, this is JD from the in
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and welcome back if you have not listened a few
weeks ago or why I say weeks But it was really
months ago We we had to come clean and we had
to announce to the world some infamous geek properties
that we have yet to check out and a lot of us
had a number of them and we kind of then try
to pick a few to knock off our list and and Greg
I think well I think it's time for you to come
to the table and you were able to scratch one
off your list and I'm curious to see what you
caught up with and what your overall opinion
of it is. Forgive me, Odin, for I have sinned.
It has been, what, six weeks since my confession.
of not seeing alien uh dan very graciously uh
lent me his copy of alien and alien 2 it's been
a while since i actually watched them because
he gave them to me a while back so please forgive
me if i'm forgetting stuff but i thought the
first one was really good it was it was very
basic kind of horror story if you ask me it was
very interesting that they set it in space and
if i wasn't from What is it? It's way over a
decade old, right? It's like at least 20 years
old Okay, so yeah, so it's 20 plus years old
and so for that I'm placing my mindset in that
area era That concept is really mind -blowing
Lee. Awesome. Really great suspense Of course,
it's got and I'm forgetting her name right now.
It's an orgy. It's an orgy. No, it's an orgy.
It's an orgy I do know snorty. She's a Swedish
word. Yeah, she's a weaver It's it's got Sigourney
we have the way you say it Sigourney dream weaver
Dream weaver. Yes, and she does a great job as
always one thing I'm gonna go super super sexual
as usual for me and It's it's completely different
subject off the track and has nothing to do with
her acting ability, which is superb as always
I never get why guys always think she's hot.
She's very interesting looking I'm not gonna
say she's ugly, but she's just this very She
has an interesting look to her I don't know,
but she does a great job in the role nonetheless
that has nothing to do with movie review honor
or nor should it but First one was good, but
it was kind of basic. I liked the second one
a lot more. I felt like it had a little bit more
of the story to it. Paul Reiser kind of took
me out of it a little bit. I kept thinking about
something about you, the TV show that he was
on. I'm like, I couldn't really take him seriously
in there for whatever reason. I felt like he
was completely out of place. I like to, and here's
a weird one, I like the credit sequence better
in the first one with how Alien came on the screen,
how it was spaced across the top of the screen.
I thought that was kind of interesting in how
it came in and everything. You could definitely
tell that there was a person in the first one
in the Alien costume. And I think the whole concept
of the alien creature is kind of interesting
and its look is kind of interesting, but I wish
it was a little less looking like a human in
kind of a suit with this giant weird oblong helmet
on. I found that aspect to be a little weird.
But overall, I thought it was a good movie. I
have seen parts of it before and it kind of did
leave up. My feelings about it beforehand without
seeing it It was about equal to now viewing it
is it was kind of what I thought it was for them
for the most part I did I do love that acid spit
though that acid spits kind of cool and it kind
of creeps me out But yeah, I caught up on alien.
It was pretty good. I don't feel better or worse
No, not really to be quite honest, I don't know
what really is that Kind of set me up that way
I feel like if I stopped back in the day It would
kind of have more of that feel to me of awesomeness
but it's just kind of like another movie to me
and I'm like, okay I could see why they liked
it back in the day and why it has such a esteem
to it but and There were the great lines in there
game over man Stuff like that was was kind of
neat by Tells his name now Bill Paxton. Yes.
He does a great job as always but yeah other
than that It was just okay interesting. I mean
I love alien It's like within my top ten probably
favorite films of all time and it's funny because
when I saw alien aliens for the first time Which
I don't know maybe it's probably like eight years
ago Well, like when I sat down to watch them
I watched them on cable But I bought them and
and checked them out and I remember the first
time I liked Aliens more it's definitely more
action -based and you know directed by James
Cameron But over yeah over like in our last decade
or so It's kind of they've kind of flip -flopped
for me and I do think Alien is certainly pacing
wise slower more gradual and I do think it yeah,
you can almost as hurt in some ways by its infamy
like it's by being so famous because a lot of
what it a lot of its famous scenes have been
so overplayed like the chest bursting scene and
The fact that we're Ripley has become such an
iconic Character like in the first movie like
she is badass in the first movie like she's just
kind of a side character when that's kind of
what's interesting about it that she like you
think that she'll be the first one dead and Obviously
she isn't so I think that it's kind of hurt it
in some ways But well, I never thought she would
be the first one dead Yeah, I mean like she doesn't
seem like she's not in the forefront There are
a lot of other characters that you think okay
these if you like didn't know anybody would assume
They would be the main characters, but she becomes
kind of the main character eventually. But uh,
yeah, I love Interesting. Yeah, I do think sometimes
with certain films, build up is almost like expectations
almost for anything is always a bad thing. It's
almost impossible to live up to that. But Dan
also did give me the Terminator films, which
I have yet to watch. So I would say with that
one, you could, you know, Terminator 1, Terminator
2, and well, I don't know, Terminator 3 is kind
of pleasant. It's, you know, it's fine. But I
think you need Terminator 3 to tie in some of
the The story it was Skynet though. Yeah, and
then I need a Terminator Genesis for Amelia Clarke.
You do I love you Amelia. I have yet to see the
movie yet I feel like I have because I watched
the recent trailer which is like everything so
Yeah, I stopped my brother was talking to me
the one night and I kind of just Like, he was
talking to me. I saw that the commercial came
on. I put my hand in his face to make him stop
talking. And I watched the trailer and I turned
back to him. I'm like, okay, what were you saying?
He's like, I didn't know you liked Terminator.
I'm like, I've never seen any of the films. I'm
like, I just stopped because I wanted to see
Emilia Clarke. He's like, okay. Interesting.
Alrighty. Very cool. And I know, Chuck, you and
kind of a different rom altogether, you know,
Greg had his movies he watched and you kind of
try to catch up with some infamous comics based
upon a property that we all love this kid. So
I'm curious to hear what you thought of those.
Yes. And I know like my list originally, I had
the X -Men Age of Apocalypse on there, which
unfortunately I did not get to read all the way
through. I read a little bit of it. I do like
what I've read so far, but I'm really not that
far into it at all. And so I don't, I don't feel
comfortable talking about it too much. So you
could, you know, that story is gigantic and there's
like three volumes of it. So yeah. So yeah. Well,
four, I have four books of that. So yeah, that's
going to be a while, but I kind of got out of
the X -Men mood. I was in a Avengers mood for
a while. I wonder where that is. Yeah, I don't
know. It's almost like some big motion picture
came out or something. So are you are you in
an Ant -Man mood right now then or? No, probably
after I see it I will be but I will say the current
Ant -Man series. I'm really loving it's quite
good. Really? Yeah, I like it a lot like I knew
nothing of Scott Lang at all as a character,
but I started reading that and it's I like it
a lot. It's very like self -deprecating and kind
of funny. It reminds me of Deadpool before he
became too much of Deadpool in that way, where
it's like he - What?! More it's like the humor
is - he has this, you know, this quirky sidekick
that - who's dressed up in a bear suit. He reminds
me of like Cable in Deadpool, where Deadpool
had the sidekick of Bob the Hydra agent. You
know, for no apparent reason. It was just like
- it was just really random in that end, so.
The Deadpool series that - I've actually been
really good too, so the current one has been
pretty good. I don't know. Sorry. Tangent. Nice.
No, that's okay. Did you see the new Ant -Man
posters that came out today or whatever? I did.
Oh, I did. That's pretty cool. They have them
on the cap's shield and Thor's hammer and Iron
Man's shoulder and stuff. Very nice. Pretty neat.
Yeah, basically I think the second thing on my
list that... All the listeners voted for was
a James Bond movie, which I've never seen any
James Bond movies. And the only one I had access
to for a little while, I think was Skyfall, which
was on Netflix. And I kind of was like putting
it off and I'm like, I had it on my list. I'm
like, all right, I'll watch it. So I go on the
one night and it was gone. They took it off there.
So didn't get to see that either. But so I guess.
I sort of substituted something and this is something
that should have been on my list of shameless
anyway. And that was the original Teenage Mutant
Ninja Turtles comics from Eastman and Laird in
1984. And I went ahead and bought myself the
first volume and it's called Teenage Mutant Ninja
Turtles Color Classics. It's called the works
volume one and the cover it's a big book really
big book and the cover looks like a pizza box
it's like the the color of the cardboard and
it has little red checkers on it and everything
and It's really cool Inside the cover. There's
like a pizza like a huge picture of a pizza and
everything That's funny cuz I didn't realize
that the whole pizza thing was in the original
I thought that was just something brought up
by the the cartoon so Because all I hear about
the original is like like, you know more adult
and violent so I had assumed like the the pizza
thing would be kind of a counterproductive to
that they don't like Talk about it like non -stop
like the cartoon does because I think that was
a way for them to really work to the kids like
because you know kids love pizza so The cartoon
was more of a way to connect with them. I really
like how they did this specific volume that I
bought the The table of contents in the beginning,
it's really set up like a menu at a pizza shop.
And there's a little section like it says appetizers
and actually lists like garlic bread, jalapeno
poppers, hot wings. And it has the prices and
everything. But then they'll have like a thing
where it says credits and it gives like the coloring,
the artists, the layout, all that stuff. But
it's really set up like a menu and it looks really,
really cool. because it says, or enjoy the works.
And then it's like a pun, huh? The works. So
have that. That was terrible. That was my new
jersey. But, you know, and then at least it's
got the first seven issues of Teenage Mutant
Ninja Turtles. And it also has the Raphael one
shot is from a micro series. It was a Raphael
story where him and. Casey Jones sort of met
and fought actually a lot like they did that
one love. Yeah. But, uh, this, the reason I went
with the color version was just because I got
to sample it at a, uh, book's a million store
by where I live. I looked at one that was black
and white and I looked at the color one. I know
the originals are black and white and there's
probably going to be some people saying like,
you got to go with the original. You got to go
black and white, but the black and white just
didn't pop to me. Like, and a lot of the things
in the backgrounds, I thought, uh, blended together
and it was kind of hard to discern, discern what
was going on in some of the panels and stuff.
The recolored version like really just pops to
me like the greens on all the turtles and it
still has a very dark Feel to it though the way
they did it like It's still I think it still
holds the same tone that the original does but
it's just the color is just amazing So interesting
because I know you when you said you you watched
you watched a trip to the moon You saw that in
color and this in color So are you are you do
you think in general not a big fan of black and
white like movie or in comic form? No, I do like
like black and white Actually, I think the black
and white trip to the moon is better. Oh, yeah
Because I think the recall recolored version
by Michael Jackson was a good song Honestly,
uh, I don't really know that one. Okay, good
Probably what? I know like thriller What's the
other one Mama say mama saw I don't know whatever
it is I'm ashamed of the sight of my moccasins
as Jimmy Fallon says But uh, yeah, I really like
this volume it's really cool it's bad Trying
to think of the price here $50, but I got on
the Amazon for 35 So if anybody's interested
in picking it up, but I was interested in buying
it. I'm just saying I can give you a deal Yeah,
so it's you for 50 bucks. It's amazing how much
the movie took straight from this. I hadn't realized
like, you know, that it was taken so closely
from this with the initial story. They kind of
jump right into the creation of the turtles,
like Splinter's kind of retelling the story.
You learn about Shredder and in one way. And
again, I'll throw out a spoiler warning here.
anyone really doesn't want this ruined. I guess
you could skip ahead a couple of minutes, but
since it's been out for over 30 years, I don't
know if really to worry about it. But it's based
upon, you know, there's been movies and everything.
Right. But in this actual story, it's a little
bit different than the movie because Splinter's
kidnapped and the turtles kind of have to go
after him and they are forced to face Shredder
because of that. But in this one. The whole reason
splinter is training them is to go after shredder
Because he is his enemy and he wants to get him
back so they actually do their homework and find
out where he's gonna be they go on this rooftop
and They know he's gonna be there and they kind
of shout out like shredder face us and everything
so he drops down and they have this big battle
and I know in the movie They really made him
a little bit more untouchable than they did in
the comic. The turtles in the movie really couldn't
do anything against them, and Splinter kind of
had to come in and save their butts. But in the
comic, they actually work together really well,
and it is really tough for them. Shredder kind
of, you know, beats them up and cuts them up
pretty bad, but working together, they eventually
get the best of him. Leo actually puts a sword
right through shredder's torso nice and then
he's about to like throw a grenade or something
and Donnie throws his bowstaff hits him right
in the jaw and kind of knocks him off the roof
and then it explodes and seemingly kills him
but they basically beat him on their own working
together as a team which is totally different
from the movie where they couldn't touch him
and Splinter had to take him out so thought that
was really interesting Haven't read that but
I did started reading like the fur the team the
IDW series that I know TFG one might pull up
pull back talks about all the time and it's a
you know, I The first I don't know six to twelve
issues were okay, but it really got quite good
as it went beyond that I enjoyed Good deal, especially
if you're a turtle fan, I would recommend it
and what's interesting about that They kind of
added like a little bit of a you know reboot
to it where? there's like almost a reincarnation
angle they take they take with the turtles and
the shredder and Splinter and like explaining
why these turtles like how the skills they do
and the British but brother ship that they have
so it's interesting a little bit of a like a
slight adjustment. And I guess that's kind of
common because I know a lot of the different
series for turtles tend to change things up quite
a bit. But I did kind of like that way they did
it, where it kind of gave more explanation to
why these guys were such great fighters, you
know, besides just like watching and training
and stuff like that. Yeah. And the the personalities,
they really, you know, you could see where you
could see the influence there on the other media,
like the um, movie and the cartoons and stuff.
Raphael, you know, he has an anger issue, but
he's really like, he's really a deep guy. And
it's in the second or third issue. I forget when
the, the mousers sort of, uh, find their lair
and Splinter's fighting them off. And he gets
captured by some, a couple of TCRI workers or
whatever. And it's at that point where the turtles
kind of, uh, have to go stay with April O 'Neill.
So it's, you can see the The movie was sort of
an amalgam of the first few issues, like they
changed it a little bit, but it's the same basic
stuff. But at that point, like when Splinter's
gone, Raphael takes it really hard. Even in the
comic, he goes out on his own to try to do something
about it by himself. So like a lot of that stuff
was like straight from this and I never realized
that, but it's really cool. And I would say if.
The original ninja turtle comics are on your
list of shame I would highly recommend checking
them out because you will not be disappointed
Very nice. Very nice. So you feel like your geek
credit go up by watching by reading them. This
is one. Absolutely I went up at least 10 points.
So you're a greg have you read them at all? No,
I have not so you're currently higher than greg
and I so So I personally had a lot of stuff for
my geeky shame and The one I think that ended
up getting most votes which I wasn't too surprised
by which was the infamous firefly series which
I never watched and I will start this by because
I feel like I'm gonna anger a lot of people I
will start this by saying that I think It hurt
me that I saw Serenity before watching the Firefly
series for a number of reasons. For one, it's
just, like, special effects -wise. It's such
a, obviously, because you have a movie compared
to a TV show. Huge step down. And there's two.
It's like, you know, starting a story by reading
the last chapter and then going back and reading
the beginning chapter. And it's, you know, it's
always been kind of spoiled to me in some ways,
but... I will say, you know, I did enjoy Firefly.
I think it's quite enjoyable. It has everything
you expect from Whedon. Great characters, great
interaction as a team. I think he does right
teams really well and he has the benefit with
something like Firefly compared to that of the
Avengers is that the characters can be a lot...
more balanced because they're different personalities
and or in their more wide ranging where you have
some more lower key characters and Hotheads and
things like that. So there's more of a range
to play with which ends up too much more interesting
dynamic within the team and Ethan Fillion is
fantastic. You know, you can definitely see like
the influences of Han Solo to Indiana Jones,
the classic westerns, and they really push that
western sci -fi motif a great deal. Sometimes
I think a little, a little too much. A little
bit. Well, I think they try a little too hard
to make it, but overall, though, I think it works
well. It makes sense. And I haven't finished
the complete series. I think I have an episode
or two left. I will say that I definitely think
it's good for the time and if you look at other
sci -fi series that came out around that time,
it's Probably well, there's not many they really
compare it to for me. It's I would say it's far
superior than that like if I look at The first
season of Firefly compared to like the first
season of the reboot of Doctor Who like they're
not I mean I think I think most people would
agree that Firefly is you know leaps and bounds
better than that first season Doctor Who just
overall it's just more brightly polished even
the camera work is is much more impressive those
little things they do and how they use space
and one of the few places that you space without
in putting any sound and that's kind of cool
to see especially in a tv atmosphere the question
is i feel like people rank this as like one of
the best tv shows of all time or one of the best
science fiction shows of all time and i I'm hesitant
to kind of put it up that much. I mean as someone
who's watching it like 12 years later It's similar
to greg what you said with alien It's hard. I'm
sure if I liked it if I watched it at the time.
I probably would have liked it a lot more. It's
just By comparison, like TV has grown so much
over that time with the capabilities of TV and,
you know, what you're able to do is like look
at something like Daredevil, you know, even like
Hannibal, which recently started against other
shows. They look fantastic. They look like movies.
So it's there's been such a growth since then.
So it's almost unbalanced. But I will say if
you just look at what it was able to do for one
season, it is remarkable and deserved more. And
I think if it was able to stay on longer, thanks,
Fox would have kind of. gotten better, and maybe
even gotten to be even more iconic along the
lines of Star Trek. I've never watched Battle
Star Galactica, but I assume it would be along
those lines too. I will say though, I think the
movie is... by far better than the tv series
i don't know if that's sacrilegious or not i
don't know how the you know the the fans feel
about that but i just brown coats are gonna take
you out there i think i think the insect is better
than both of them well fireflies are pretty sweet
i mean like i remember catching them as a kid
that was a lot of fun yeah it was but i don't
know where you i know greg you've watched the
series right So I'm curious. Yes. So do you have
a preference between the series and the movie?
Do you think one's better than the other? Not
really. I liked both of them pretty much the
same amount. It really was just good all around
for me because at that time I liked westerns.
Now I'm kind of a little over them at this point.
And then crossed with sci -fi. I thought it was
a pretty interesting mix. So I really enjoyed
them and I was kind of sad when I ran out of
Episodes to watch so yeah, yeah Yeah, i'm not
saying just so the brown couch don't get crazy
i'm not saying it's a bad show or I wouldn't
even use the term overrated I'm more saying so
saying like when you get separated from tv, especially
during that time span it it's a little bit more
difficult like um Even say if I watch the x -files
today I would assume a lot of that stuff would
probably not hold up nearly as well. It's just
so you You're saying the movie is better than
the series for me. I think so. I said, OK, because
I have not seen the movie. I did see the a lot
of the series, but it was a long time ago, probably
like 10 years ago. But and I'm going to have
to check out the was my first introduction to
true ideology for who, you know, when I was in
12 years of slave and is also going to be playing
Baron Zima, not Baron Zima, but Baron Mordo,
which is interesting. But I remember like watching
that movie. then and thinking like that guy would
be the perfect Black Panther. But, you know.
Yeah. Yeah. I always thought that too. So, I
mean, I still, Chadwick Boseman could probably
still do a good job, but I always thought like
he would be a great Black Panther. But, you know,
you live and you learn, but yeah, very cool.
So I will try to look at some, I tried to also...
Other things on my list were like Watchmen and
Dark Knight Returns I didn't the comic and I
have yet to do that I'm kind of hesitant to read
Dark Knight Returns because I've already watched
the cartoon movie So again, I don't know if that's
again like a sacrilegious and also saw Watchmen
the movie Which I know is not nearly as good
quote -unquote as the as the comic but I Actually
like the movie better to be quite honest Is it
is it because of the female nudity? Or is it
because of Dr. Manhattan's nudity? Nudity, no.
It's because I didn't really like the mini story
kind of within the story, the pirate story. I
could care less about that, but it did play kind
of an integral thing to the rest of the movie,
so it was kind of necessary. Then you have the
ultimate edition version of Watchmen, which does
weave that storyline. because they didn't make
it like a separate animated film. Yeah, I know
they made it a separate animated film, but I
don't have that ultimate edition copy. I've heard
bad things, so probably better put her off that
way. We're closing off that list of shame, and
Chuck, I guess when we meet again, what I'll
have to do is give you my Bond 50th edition box
set in Skyfall so you can try to watch one before.
We do have the next Bond movie coming out this
year. Highly anticipating and actually, you know
what speaking of bond it does kind of segue nice
into the letter that I did have for today because
fortunately Christopher Lee who played one of
the most iconic bond villains of all time passed
away today as we're recording this So I did want
to kind of I wrote a letter for him Sometimes
it can be good to be bad or in Christopher Lee's
case. It can be great The iconic actor Christopher
Lee recently passed away, and he leaves with
him a legacy many would only dream of. The guy
has played more villains than anyone could count,
and if there was ever a Hall of Fame for actors
who make great villains, he would be in the first
ballot. He has ruled Middle Earth, he has gone
toe to toe with 007, he has worn the cape of
Dracula, and he's even fought Yoda in the lightsaber
battle and walked away to talk about it. Beyond
just that of playing iconic villains, he'd also
have quite the incredible life. He's been knighted
and was even a veteran in World War II. Christopher
Lee is the type of actor that As cliche as it
sounds, they don't make any more. Those that
are not really afraid to play bizarre roles in
really strange and odd movies that are admittedly
often really bad, but Christopher Lee is always
really good. He just seems like a type of guy
who's not really afraid to take on anything and
just looking to have fun. The guy even released
a heavy metal album. Christopher Lee has a heavy
metal album. Not many people could say that.
If anything, if you're a fan of villains, you
have to appreciate that of Christopher Lee. He
set the archetype for what it meant to be a James
Bond villain. He wasn't loud over the top or
extremely evil. He was classy. He was subdued.
He just had that elegance and that inerrogance
that made him seem better than you. And it's
the type, if you see anyone try to intimidate
a Bond villain, it's really, it's really much
of what Lee brought to the table that they're
trying to take from. So as we are looking at
another Bond film coming out this year, there's
no doubt that even the great Christopher Wall
owes something to that of Christopher Lee. So
Lee, I would like to thank you for everything
you've done, from being a veteran to being a
knight, to holding the golden gun. You leave
a legacy many wish they could dream of, many
children have nightmares of. I feel like we too
many people good people have died since we started
doing this podcast. So maybe I don't know if
that's a bad sign, you know Maybe our podcast
is poised. Maybe you know, like harold ramis
and uh robin williams. It's just you know, it
was good to keep going Keep back. I'm christopher
lee. He was he really was amazing and I Absolutely
loved his stuff. I loved him as count dooku in
star wars obviously and the original dracula
And the guy's voice to you like such an iconic
voice like He even had that part nailed down
about playing a villain like just I mean You
didn't even have to see him like you could hear
him and be like, yeah He's a bad guy and you
don't want to mess with them. Like the guy's
just incredible. Yeah very much so and I Don't
even like the man with the golden gun that much
but he's he's a great character. So I like that
I'm kind of cheesy guys. I'm not sure if you
noticed or not. I'm kind of I didn't mean that
as a as a as a diss I mean like cheesy. I like
cheesy movies too, but that is like that is very
much I also like my pizza cheesy. I like that.
I like my mozzarella sticks cheesy your cheese
sticks Yeah, very nice grilled cheese cheesy,
but also Also mentioned real quick on a another
sad note We lost, um famous wrestler dusty roads
as well on the same day, too I I i'm not very
familiar with I mean, I watched wrestling a lot
growing up but like he was Like I think before
our time and like I was always kind of I mean
I know with sons, you know dusting roads But
I never really watched him wrestle. I know he
He kind of was Towards the end of his career
when I started watching in there in the early
90s and stuff there But I know he was like best
friends with Hulk Hogan or whatever Yeah, and
I and like he did a lot of I mean in WCW He was
you know announcer for a really long. That's
what I kind of knew him from mostly It was the
announcer of Saturday Night Live not that much
Saturday Night Live. That's a completely different
show Question it's his son Golda. Yeah, okay
That's a son and then gold Which I can't believe
that guy's still wrestling like he was the goldest
was like a thing when I was a kid in the 90s
And he's still going strong So he is ultra creepy
and like the last time I saw him with the gold
paint and the gold body suit Everything's creepy
thought that'd be a gimmick that would last 30
years, but hey, you know I just remember like
how much people hated that character like it.
That's funny. So Yeah, but anyways randomly random
wrestling tangent But there are before we go,
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you can, all the creepy people that find me can
find me at the Create Forge. I get weird things
on there all the time. I definitely think they're
like spam and stuff like that. I never get anything
weird, how come? I got one that was like weird
planet recently or weird something. Hold on,
let me bring up Twitter. It's right on top of
my notifications. I literally got something that
said, oh, planet weird. See, I get weird stuff
actually following me. Awesome. See, I actually
I did get a weird thing. It was um It was a Miami
Dolphins thing, but it wasn't their official
one So I was like they followed me first like
and I and I like I'll follow people back if you
follow me off but and So I followed them like
alright, maybe they've news and stuff and then
one day they tweeted a link and I clicked on
it and had a virus in it and Luckily my thing
blocked it, but I'm like, yeah, you're getting
unfollowed I've also gotten followed all the
time. Anytime I favorite anything by Emily Rydejkowski
or however you say your last name, I always get
followed by Emily Rydejkowski nude. Followed
by or you follow Now follow by because you can
you can very easily find her photos online of
her Just flaunting everything that God blessed
her with and she is blessed by God. That body
is fantastic Did I go creepy there at the end?
You can edit out the creepy parts. We wouldn't
have a podcast okay it would be you know yeah
you need it a little is it weird that you guys
call it t i c i call it t in c i whenever i do
anything like the the drawings anymore i do t
in c you guys always i always abbreviate it t
i c i always like see that tick everywhere so
yeah and i i think of tick the the blue superhero
we just went on a very weird tangent here i'm
sorry everybody We're very random tonight. Yeah,
that's a type of show Alrighty and I don't know
if I didn't give my Twitter name, which is that
movie revolved and Yeah, I get we are Twitter
followers all the time. I don't know why that
is but You could also listen to the podcast on
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Nerdly, you can go on BlogTalkRadio .com. It's
also a great place to check out. I noticed that
we had a few comments on there, which I did not
realize, and so we didn't get to those. I apologize
because I was not checking. I'll try to do that
more often. Oh, I'm going to have to check that.
Was it something good? It was the Annoying Celebrity
episode. I think there's a few mentions of people
that people felt should also be added. Oh, okay.
Do you remember offhand or no? I don't know.
Oh, okay. But yeah, so you can check us out there,
which is a great site. They have a lot of cool
little features and whatnot. So anyways, though,
I think the raininess has come to end. So it's
time to time to bring this podcast to end. But
it's OK, because we'll be back next week. Same
time, same channel, same podcast feed. But for
now, this has been Chuck. This has been Greg,
or Schmorgie, or however Dan pronounces Sigourney
Weaver's name. And I don't even know, and this
has been Dan, and we've been Talking in Circles.
We'll see you next week. I think if any episode
lived up to the title was Talking in Circles,
it was definitely an incident. Oh, especially
at the end there. Sorry, I went on hand -in -handions.
I got Emily Ratajkowski stuck in my brain. I
just made her rage! We just all simultaneously
acquired ADD at the end of that episode. Oh look,
a squirrel!
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