Talking in Circles
Rogue One Review

About this Episode
Hey, this is Steve blue and you are listening
to the geek cast radio network You are now on
the inside of what I like to call the circle
of trust You know something Bert I think you
and I are going in circles It feels like we're
going in circles. The circuit is now complete.
When I left you, I was but the learner. Now I
am the master. Because it's a circle. Yeah, we
heard about the circle, yes. We're familiar with
shape. Hi, this is Chuck. This is Craig. And
this is Dan, and we are... Podcast that is back
from its winter break ready to talk a little
Star Wars as today You'll be dedicating our second
half to our for view of the latest Star Wars
film a rogue one of Star Wars story But before
we get to that how thanks Miguel and how was
your Christmas for you guys? Good good had a
really good Christmas spending with family and
friends and everything had a You know good new
years and everything so kind of looking forward
to 2017 being much better than 2016 the disaster
that it was All right boring my family's not
very big And so I haven't had a lot really going
on over the holidays. It was mostly me playing
follow -up constantly follow for downloaded a
bunch of DLCs that I'm behind on and Kicking
some super mutant ass. So you're fallout boy
kind of yes I'm vault boy Is this fallout is
that only in on PlayStation I'm showing my video
game No, that's that's I believe it's across
all things. It's on Xbox PlayStation and PC.
Well, a lot of people that I see play play it
on PC. Oh, okay. See, I say that because I have
I've grown up in the world of video games because
for this Christmas, my wife got me an Xbox one,
which was very unexpected. You know, I got her
a waffle maker and she got me an Xbox. So kind
of even a little bit. No, not so much. So I think
you get more returns with that waffle maker.
You get delicious waffles. Yeah. Yeah, we can
eat waffles without playing Xbox. So that's the
gift that keeps on giving. Yeah. Yeah. But so
I ended up I got a few games. I'm like I have
a lot to catch up with because like, you know,
I've been I haven't played video games much lately.
And, you know, I have my 360, which was kind
of on its last legs. I had to like pry it open
with a knife to get the tray open and all that
great stuff. So I'm Still catching up. I got
a few games from electronic from electronics
boutique, which is a story that doesn't exist
anymore from GameStop and I believe electronics
boutique does still exist. It just exists up
in Canada. I believe It's like GameStop and Electronic
Boutiques. They're the same company, but it's
GameStop down here, Electronic Boutiques up in
Canada, I believe. I guess America, we don't
know what boutique means, so we're just confused.
We had some people walking in there thinking
it was a totally different type of store. They
weren't sure. They were thinking something else
and they just saw a video game or something.
But how about you guys? You guys have anything
fun and exciting for Christmas? I got some movies.
I kind of like I always pulled off on my movies
because they make good Christmas presents for
me because like usually I don't really want anything
else so I kind of save them up because my family's
always like what do you want and so I tell them
movies but so I got like Civil War Blu -ray and
X -Men Apocalypse and stuff I got the the latest
Rocky movie Creed I got that one so nice pretty
excited got some good movies to watch Amazon
cards oh I did order some, uh, something exciting
with my Amazon cards. I ordered two omnibus collections
that I found for pretty good prices. Uh, one
is the, uh, age of apocalypse collection from
the nineties. Oh, nice. Nice. And one is the
onslaught collection also from the nineties.
I found them for really good prices and they're
like, Really good complete collections and everything
like they got good reviews and everything. So
That'd be cool to have Yeah, that's that that
age of apocalypse on omnibus must be like Gigantic
I could like, you know a good like 15 pounds
of a book Yeah, well, they actually split it
up into two omnibus books. Okay because well,
the one is like the main story. And I guess they
like retooled it because, you know, there's like
paperback versions and everything like that.
They haven't trades, but they retooled it for
the omnibus so that you could just buy the main
AOA omnibus and get the full effect of the story.
But then there's also a companion version, like
if you really want to get into the smaller tie
ins and stuff, you could get the companion version.
But I guess they set it up so that you. really
only need the one if you if you had to, which
is kind of cool. Greg, you get anything fun and
exciting? Not really. I asked for money for the
most part. I really didn't see a need or a want
for anything. So I mostly got like clothes, art
supplies. But another thing that I got that was
cool and not from family or anything like that,
which a big shout out to Funko. I have their
Marvel Collector Corps and part of that, and
I'm also part of their DC Legion of Collectors
boxes and everything. And what was really cool
for Christmas, they sent out, I guess to everyone
that has like one of their three series of boxes,
they sent them out. another one from a different
series so I got a box from the Star Wars series
for free from Funko which is totally cool I never
expected something like that from any big companies
or anything like some small things for free okay
yeah but one of their their boxes I thought it
was pretty cool and the inside was a t -shirt
time apparently wearing. It's of the character
that gets his arm cut off by Ben Kenobi in the
Cantina scene. We'll be talking about him later
too, probably. And I got... He doesn't like you.
Yeah, I got a Ben Kenobi pop. I got a red snaggletooth
pop. I got a little Chewbacca pop pen and a pen
or a pin and a patch, which usually come in all
of Funko's boxes. So I thought that was pretty
neat. And so I just want to throw a big shout
out to Funko. I thought that was really cool
to do something like that. So how many Funkos
do you have at this point? Any idea? Oh Ridiculous
amount. Has it made triple digits yet? Do you
think? I'm close, but it has not made triple
digits They should throw you a little bone because
you kind of like cleaned them out it I really
didn't clean them out. Well, you you clean them
out for me Chuck, but I really didn't clean them
out because they were out of a lot of this other
stuff that I wanted to so I also I know so talk
a little bit about some of the stuff we watched
and read over over break I know Greg you caught
up with TV series that I've been meaning to catch
up with but have not yet mainly because I I don't
have stars, but how it was Ash versus the Evil
Dead or Ash and the Evil Dead. It's Ash versus
the Evil Dead. I picked this one up at Best Buy
just randomly the one day, and I thought it was
pretty cheap for a Blu -ray season of a show.
It was like 25 bucks or something, 20, 25 bucks.
How many episodes? 10. Yeah, yeah, and so I picked
that up because I've really enjoyed the three
movies I'm not sure about the the last reboot
that they did with it. I never really saw that
one But I enjoyed the originals and so this kind
of Picks well that picks up where they left off,
but it's like 20 or 30 years in the future kind
of goes congruent with our actual time has kind
of passed. So it's got Bruce Campbell in it and
his aged glory. And he's he's a bit bigger guy
at this point. And they they make fun of that,
which I feel bad for him. Bruce Campbell always
seems like the nicest guy, but they kind of bust
him about that in the show. And it fits in perfectly
with the original movies. It's it's can't be
horror. It's got this weird sense of humor to
it. If you love the original movies, you will
love this show. I think they did a great job
with it. Instead of Ash just being on his lonesome
this time around, he's got two sidekicks going
with him, and they're a lot of fun, interesting
characters going on. It's just crazy. Gory, it's
it's seriously seriously. I know I kind of repeated
it twice here, but it is pretty much like the
originals I think that there was only one fault
I had with it And it's the CGI blood that they
throw in there every once in a while kind of
throws me off But otherwise it it's it's really
great How are the special effects in general
considering it's a I mean that was ever a great
special Yeah, and if they do practical effects
and the practical effects kind of fall in with
the originals, but that's what kind of makes
me like it. And so these little CGI ones kind
of are like these blaring things that kind of
poke out at you and you kind of really notice
them. Since there's a lot of actual physical
effects going on So the CGI ones kind of really
pop out out at you and since there wasn't really
CGI in the originals It makes it pop out even
more I Need to need to watch that so now I have
more reason to so yeah, it's very good Dan very
good Very cool. I think they just started season
two recently if I'm not mistaken, so I think
they finished with it actually and that's how
I think they're starting on season 3 to be quite
honest. I am just behind on everything. Is that
what we're learning? There's too much stuff.
It is. There is. I'm behind on Game of Thrones.
I'm behind on Walking Dead. It's bad and that's
seriously why. There's so much stuff going on.
I've given up on the CWU shows. When was the
original movie, Greg? Was it mid -80s? First
was late eighties late seventies. I'm pretty
sure no It was like late eighties and like the
last one was like early 90s I want to say it
was like 85 through like early 90s. I want to
say I'll look at the first the first Which it
which was honestly like a glorified home student
film and I like going back and watching it. Yeah
Evil Dead 2 like it's the same movie. It's practically
practically Yeah, there's a lot of debate if
it's really a sequel or just really a remake
of the original Yeah, but yeah, the first one's
81 It's very I've not seen a budget. I've not
seen any of those Yeah, you would like to borrow
them. I have the DVDs at my house. I have all
three I believe just tell me who wins Yeah, like
the first movie was probably made for less than
this podcast cost which is telling you something
it was Chuck I know I know you also watched a
movie over over break What did you get catch
up with I did I watched a few movies, but um
I chose this one to talk about because it's a
kind of a genre that we share interest in and
something that I like to go back to every now
and then that's kind of like the cheesy martial
arts movies, like the B rated martial art movies.
And this was a new kind of a new take on an older
classic. And that is, of course, Kickboxer Vengeance,
which is sort of a sequel in in effect to the
original Kickboxer with John Claude Van Damme.
But this one obviously bigger and better because
it has Dave Bautista in it. Not really, though.
But I liked it a lot. I think it was cool because,
you know, Van Damme wasn't trying to be the fighter
in it. Like, you know, we've seen in some of
the other fading action stars where they kind
of overstay their welcome in the fighting circuit
and Rocky. I think it was good that he chose
to be more of the trainer this time around and
kind of let some of the younger talent coming
up in the industry kind of take the forefront
of it. But saying that, though, I think Van Damme
was a really great part of this movie, actually.
He didn't have a huge, huge part. I would definitely
say like a co -star, but he was pretty great
in it. He did just enough. He wasn't like overly
annoying or obnoxious with corny stuff like he
was back in his movies in the eighties and stuff
like that. There were a couple of little callbacks
here and there, but I think they were fun. They
were kind of done in a cool way. Like, for example,
the one was the one scene they were in this prison
and they're able to like trick the guard and
they get out of the prison and. As they're walking
out, there's this guy in the one cell and he's
like, Hey, do you remember me? And, uh, I'm pretty
sure it was the original guy that played Tong
Po in the first movie. And yeah, Van Damme just
kind of like shook his head and they just kept
walking. So it was kind of funny. And, uh, then
at the end, as they're scrolling the credits
at the end of the movie, I don't know how many
people remember kickboxer vividly, but there
was that really corny dance scene with Van Damme
in that like rundown little bar where he's like
doing the really corny like dance moves and everything
but they kind of did like a split screen where
they showed that and then they had the new guy
doing like the same dance moves like from like
on the new set so they had like a little split
screen going on that was kind of fun i thought
that was pretty cool so they were like They were
making fun of themselves, but it wasn't a good
way. They weren't trying to take themselves too
seriously and stuff. I think Batista was good
because I think he only had three or four lines
in the movie. He pretty much did what he needed
to do. He surprisingly looked a lot like the
original Tung Po. I guess once you have that
distinctive haircut and ponytail, that's kind
of like... It's like the only way to make the
man -button look badass. Right, exactly. And
then, of course, they did the iconic thing with
the glass where they dipped their knuckles in
the glass and everything, so they had that. But
it was cool. It's a fun watch if you like those
martial arts movies, and especially if you were
a fan of them back in the 80s and stuff, Van
Damme in particular. It's pretty cool. The stunts
are... For a while like it was pretty straightforward
like martial art and then like a little crazy
with doing some weird stunts where he's like
Jumping on people's heads and then flipping over
and they got a little bit fancy at the end Maybe
too fancy for their own good But they didn't
get too too carried away with it like I thought
so but it's definitely fun watch I'd recommend
it. It's like an hour and a half long So, you
know if you like those and you got some time
to kill I would check it out Very cool. It's
on Netflix, too, if I'm not mistaken. So. Yes,
yes, it is. It's a good. It sounds like a good
Netflix movie, right? You just kind of throw
it on and be able to, you know, do other stuff
and kind of have it on in the background. Yeah.
One of the things I'll know quick, too, is there's
a there's a bunch of like UFC UFC fighters and
MMA fighters and stuff. Some pretty famous ones,
too. George St. Pierre is in it. Yeah, he was
on Captain America, wasn't he? Yes, he was bet
rock the leaper. Yeah, or bet rock the leap air
So what we're saying what we're saying is kickboxer
exists in the Marvel universe. Is that exactly?
Yes, also Gina Carano is in it Also, how you
know, it's good And there's another guy too,
I don't know his name but he's like I know he's
supposed to be like kind of popular But I don't
I'm not sure he's he has like a small part in
like one particular scene I don't know. I'm not
familiar with those. Did he does he have like
a mohawk type thing Chuck Lito? Yeah, no, I don't
know. It wasn't him It was like I knew it like
a little bit younger guy like newer kind of Oh,
okay. I don't I I think I've expelled my only
other person I know is ronda rousey You probably
wasn't in it because she would have gotten beaten
up too quickly because apparently that's her
new thing I know. Yeah, really? I know, uh, you
know, georgette pierre is like a huge name Uh
in ufc, so that was kind of cool to To see him
in there when we did watch UFC with our other
friend, Dan That was like the only fighter that
I was really took an interest in interest in
Yeah, he was pretty cool because he was actually
like for a while there. He was one of the best
Yeah, I don't know if he ever I think he went
out on top or something yeah, I think he was
champion at some point I could be wrong, but
I'm trying to look up the guy's name, and I'm
not finding it right now, but It's one part of
the movie that was kind of corny though was like
they like they had to have the The police in
I think they were in Taiwan They find where they're
fighting the first time and then like later in
the movie They're fighting in the exact same
spot and it takes them a while to find them.
I'm like, really? You've been there before hiding
in plain sight That part was kind of weird, but
other than that. Oh, here's the dude Cain Velasquez
Yeah, I don't know who that is He's a big guy
with the red mask and I was thinking the same
thing. He's brothers with the undertaker Yeah,
different type of fighting yes, very cool Yeah,
I guess I could I'll talk about actually oddly
enough one quick podcast that I've actually been
listening to I had to drive a lot coming up to
Scranton for the holidays. So I tried to find
something to kind of listen to on the drive.
And I've been trying to get into history -based
podcasts. And the one I started listening to
was actually called The First Stories of Invention.
It's basically about the first things that ever
existed. I listened to the first two episodes.
And the first episode's about the first -ever
Ferris wheel. And like... goes into its creation
why it was created it ends up being like an audio
documentary too because they get some like voice
actors to do some reenactments and stuff like
that and they're about like 45 minute episodes
or so it's actually quite quite interesting if
you're a fan of just like oddballed history type
of stuff so uh i would recommend it it's Like
I said, it's called the first the first stories
of invention. It's just and they've done other
episodes I think the most recent one was on the
Pledge of Allegiance and The first Thanksgiving
and things like that. So it's very cool But anything
else before we take a quick break? All right.
Well, we're gonna take a quick break and we're
gonna talk come back and talk about that little
indie film that could Rogue one a Star Wars story
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love to have you. It's not called that, it's
called Rogue One, a Star Wars story. Star Wars
isn't there someplace, but you know, since -
Get it right, Dan. I know, I know. Since it's
been out for almost nearly a month by the time
this has been - will be released and it's made
about a trillion dollars worldwide, we're just
gonna put the spoiler warning right in the beginning,
so if you've not watched the movie, I would say
- come back later um just because yeah it was
like we we mentioned in pre -record pretty much
a new hope spoiled the majority of this already
but so uh we're gonna get right into it but this
just to start off overall kind of general thoughts
and you know opinions about the movie and how
much you enjoyed it or did not enjoy it uh greg
uh what did you think of uh rogue one I actually
really enjoyed it. It was a little slow up front
for me It was a lot of backstory and setting
up and I wasn't really caring caring for any
of the characters at the beginning But then as
we progressed it's kind of picked up for me and
I started to find characters I like or characters
started to develop to the point where I was starting
to enjoy them But I thought it was overall really
good CGI was A lot better than we've seen with
some other movies that have tried similar things
But overall the CGI was really well done Music
was really cool The characters were interesting
looking from a design perspective I really like
the story personally. I thought it was pretty
cool. And so yeah Nice nice Chuck. What about
you? Well first thing when I was watching I was
like OMG another Death Star movie. Are you serious?
No I kind of had like a really strong feeling
that I was gonna like this going in just because
there was some issues that I had with Force Awakens
for you know One reason or another I didn't like
it a whole lot and so I thought this one, you
know being original trilogy, I'm gonna like it
probably a lot more and that did turn out to
be the case. I really, really enjoyed this. I
found it like really fun again, like in a in
the geekiest way, because like I think I really
like Greg mentioned it was slow in the beginning
for him, but I was sort of like getting into
those details and stuff like that. Like like
when I watch Star Wars movies, like a lot of
it's about the details for me because there's
so many things like there's so many subplots
going on and there's so many characters and there's
so many different things. So that's kind of like
the mood that I get into when I watch Star Wars.
I like, you know, looking for the detail stuff
and finding all that stuff. So I did enjoy that.
Obviously it did get better as it went on, I
thought. And, you know, I did thoroughly enjoy
the little bit darker theme. I think only because,
you know, for a lot of reasons Force Awakens
felt like more of a kids movie for me like there
were a lot of aspects of it that uh you know
and for good reason but they wanted to sort of
cater to the younger generation to to and you
know get them involved in star wars just like
our generation did and our parents and stuff
like that so i was glad that this one felt a
little bit darker and a little bit more mature
like some more mature themes and stuff like that
and doesn't have a happy ending everybody doesn't
make it out alive and everything like that and
that was uh that was pretty cool i had i had
somebody tell you know they thought uh you know
gin or so and cassian could have like escaped
on a pod or something and into onto a different
world never to be seen again but you know i i
think it was kind of a little bit more striking
the way they did it here because it it just gives
you idea of what everyone sacrificed and they
went into this knowing that they probably weren't
going to make it out. So I liked that more adult
theme. I liked a lot of the callbacks too. They
weren't really callbacks as they were trying
to fit into the old trilogy, but there were some
references to older characters and stuff like
that I really enjoyed. And there was a couple
of new characters that I really liked too. So
I was extremely pleased with it coming out of
there very few grapes with it. Interesting. I
think I overall did like Rogue One. I think I
probably had more issues than you guys did. Mostly
with kind of the second act was where I felt
it got a little murky. And while I enjoyed a
lot of the side characters, especially that we
can get like Donnie Yen and the new android and...
Without they kind of stole the show that like
the main character is Felicity Jones who I am
a pretty big fan of I've liked pretty much everything
she's in I so am I Dan? Yes I felt like I don't
know her character Felt incomplete to me incomplete.
I guess you'd say it uncompletes on a word Incomplete
to me and similar with that of Diego Luna's character
Cassian we can get into this a little bit more
but I felt their arcs were inconsistent, I would
say, like it felt like there were just pieces
missing. I like them overall as characters, but
sometimes their motivations, the reasoning, and
their development seemed kind of spotty, which
I didn't feel like with like Force Awakens, which
is something I really ended up enjoying about
that, where the characters' motivations are pretty
clear, maybe simplistic, but... I think that's
kind of allowed that movie more space to kind
of grow in other ways. I thought the action overall
was pretty solid, a good mixture. It had some
of the most probably, like we've talked about,
darkest, gritty action for a Star Wars movie.
It did, as cheesy as it may sound, put the war
in Star Wars. I love a lot of the new character
designs, the death troopers. pretty great, some
of the new planets are awesome. You can just
see the amount of merchandise that's being made
in this with all the new toys they're creating,
which was cool to see. And like I said, so a
lot of, had the venture and overall, I think
the chemistry between the group really started
to come into a whole fold in the end. Like I
thought like, okay, this group really has that
Star Wars chemistry you wanna see. Even like
this group probably even more so than anyone
in the prequels, even though they had a limited
time together. It's a really great back and forth
that you would expect for a Star Wars film and
some of the new worlds are very interesting And
I was overall satisfied with it. I think it's
a good addition and something very different
for the world of Star Wars I did I did have I
did have some some problems with it as I mentioned
and I guess maybe we can get into that to start
with With this, you know, our main character
throughout here is you know, Felicity Jones,
Jean Urso and For me, I had a hard time figuring
out where she was in all this. At times, it felt
like she seemed like someone who was attached
from being a rebel or what have you, someone
that was more like, I'm just gonna do what I
need to do. But she had her background of working
with Flores Whitaker's character where she's
clearly fought the Imperials before. So it was
hard for me to kinda get like... You know, is
she is she Han Solo? Is she Luke Skywalker? Is
she a little bit of both? And that was kind of
where, you know, I struggled with. I don't know
what you guys thought. I kind of related it back
to Luke in A New Hope a little bit, because in
a way it's like, you know, she she wanted to
do something about it, but just like Luke, he
wanted to get away and. join the academy and
everything, but he was kind of like, there's
nothing I can really do about it now. I'm stuck
here working for Uncle Owen and doing all this
crap. Not that she was in the same situation,
but I felt like she felt the same way. She might
want to do something, but she couldn't do anything
about it right now where she was. I don't know.
It's a little bit of a loose connection, but
it didn't really... Bother me too much. I know
Greg you said to start off with you weren't like
a big fan of her character, but that kind of
Turned around so what would like your initial?
Apprehensions and what caused you to kind of
come around to her as a character? She just seemed
kind of cold and it seemed like she was just
kind of overall bitchy So that really just didn't
do anything for me Emotions wise She was just
cold and bitchy to me But she kind of warmed
up and she started to get friends and she started
to kind of loosen up with things I think a little
bit it wasn't how Felicity Jones played the character.
I don't think it was how the character was written
Yeah, like I think I could kind of see that like
you definitely see her The start off with it
seems like she might like, you know shoot Cassian
in the face just to get away and like never come
back But always there's a connection with her
and her father that was kind of like the lynchman
I think that kind of allowed me to kind of get
over the majority of that issue, but there was
a lot of talk about with this movie a lot of
reshoots that happened and a lot of people pointed
at like a big part of that might have been softening
her character because I think maybe at first
impressions were a lot like what you were saying
Greg where she seemed a little bit too unlikable
and there do seem like there are some moments
where you get a little bit more tenderness to
her character a little bit more reason to kind
of see who she is beyond that tough shell might
be really kind of what they were going for Any
other character I know we talked about her but
any other I know there's you know being a Star
Wars movie there's a lot of Characters any other
characters that you guys felt that like you did
enjoy or any ones that kind of stood out to you
I loved blind asian dude and i think he was a
little bit more on the hawaiian asian specific
side i forget character names i'm so sorry i'm
bad with like alien alien sounding names but
bays and charute i believe is i don't i i know
uh donnie yen trude trude yes um donnie yen was
the blind You know Jedi sensitive guy and then
when when jiang who I believe is Japanese Okay,
he's Japanese. I could be wrong. He's got a bit
of a Hawaiian look to him. So But anyway, I like
those those two guys I think they gave a little
bit more heart and a little bit more lightheartedness
to the entire movie I thought the characters
those two characters were a lot of fun and I
liked the droid k2 K2SO, is that? Yeah, I think
that's it. Yeah, K2SO. I really liked his character
too, as well. I thought he was kind of snarky,
which was a lot of fun for me. I like a little
bit of snark, so. Especially from a droid. So
it adds a little humor to it, I thought. Yeah.
I'll definitely agree with you guys on Jin. She
was... Definitely not as likeable as somebody
like Luke when we first saw him in A New Hope
like he was just instantly likeable and She really
was not in the beginnings, but I think someone
that Someone else in this that was unlikeable
but in a good way wasn't meant to be it was director
Krennic and for whatever reason I really liked
that character and I thought I thought that guy
played a really really good role in that I didn't
feel like it was. I mean, some people could argue
that he was just kind of thrown in there or something,
but I felt like he just kind of stuck out to
me like he was kind of like a good little villain,
like he had a good presence and everything. So
I enjoyed seeing Krennic's character on there.
He seemed like an imperial politician, like he
just seemed really slimy. Yeah, like he was a
weasel, but that's yeah. Was I was reading in
I think an interview he did like realizing like,
you know Darth Vader's in this movie So you really
can't try to be the badass character because
you're going toe -to -toe with the biggest badass
So it's never gonna work. So I think he played
it. It's done by Ben Mettleton who's one of my
like favorite actors today He doesn't he plays
a lot of these similar roles. He's always nearly
always some sort of scummy guy or sort of like
really, you know Weasley guy and I think it kind
of works here and a lot of like all the infighting
that's happening with the Imperials and like
how a lot of it's like with him and Turkin and
All this back and forth over like who's really
getting credit for what it's a lot. It's a lot
of like Really unimportant things that they're
arguing but it kind of makes sense because it's
you got these guys who kind of just want to you
know They're just really looking out for themselves.
So it makes sense that they're sniveling and
conniving Exactly. It was like in the one scene
that I like the particular that really like displays
that as like when the rebels land on the beach
on Scariff and he's like barking orders at his
guys and it's like you just get like totally
reamed out by Vader and like he choked you and
like Tarkin is like above him and everything
and like they're Totally like kind of chewing
his butt out and then he's going barking orders
at these other guys like he's so much better
Than them and I'm like, you know, don't you such
a slimeball? You know what I mean? Like you're
you're no better than these guys that you're
telling what to do. You know Clearly he's his
uncle someone important. That's where he got
the job. So exactly And I don't know how he got
the white costume because he should have just
had like a crappy green one True and he got the
cool -looking stormtroopers that kind of accompanying
him which is yeah You got to be an important
character to get your own special specially designed
stormtroopers exactly I'll kind of second Greg
with your love of Donnie Yang and Wen Zheng's
character. They to me made the movie Like they
were my anytime they were on screen. I was like
I was happy Donnie and brought a lot of fun and
heart and humor, you know I love the moment where
like he gets a bag over at Ted and he's like
I'm blind you idiots and that was that was a
good moment and I'm a fan of him because I love
the man movies and he's He's kind of he does
talking about kickboxer earlier. Like he does
a lot of those cheesy martial arts films and
man martial arts in the Star Wars universe. That
was pretty cool to see. So I love getting their
own movie that we had. I'd go see it. That's
something I never really thought about, but I
guess, you know, we kind of had that a little
bit with Darth Maul with some of his stuff. But,
you know, we don't really speak of that movie
too much. I will say though the the one scene
with When he had his like his bow staff and like
You know, there's like the thing on the end I
I was I could swear that there was gonna be a
lightsaber that came out of that You know cuz
I'm thinking this guy obviously is like aware
of the force and he's like Kind of a little bit
adept in the forest and I'm like, you know, he
was talking about the kyber crystals and everything
on Jedha I'm like, he's got to have a lightsaber
inside of that bow staff. It's you know, just
gonna pop out but it never did so No, it ended
up being a gun. He's a use it. Yeah shoot down
a tie fighter. I'm like, that's And that was
cool. Not only did he time it so perfectly to
hit the TIE fighter, but when the TIE fighter
crashed, it took out a turret. That was extremely
impressive. Yeah. So I did enjoy it. And K2SL
was great. Alan Tudyk, he's probably in the geek
echelon of actors people love because he was
in Firefly and stuff like that. I'm I'm surprised.
It wasn't some sort of firefly reference. Maybe
I missed it. I'm not I'm not Firefly, but I Do
hell if I remember any stuff from it's been a
while since I watched it. Yeah, yeah and so and
I did like how they kind of interacted as a team
and in like the k2so I thought in the back and
forth with him and the other characters was a
lot of fun and you know, he was a different type
of droid like I was like When I saw he was gonna
be in the movie, I'm like, oh it's gonna be how
are they gonna put another droid in a movie?
Is it gonna be like, you know, we already have
BB -8 and R2 -D2 and C -3PO, but they found a
way to, you know, characterize a robot, which
is pretty cool. Yeah, I like Alan Tudyk and everything
he pretty much does. The part where she shoots
the droid that looks exactly like him that I
thought that was hilarious Because at first I
thought it was him and then like he said Like
did you know that wasn't me Nice yeah, I Speaking
of that that sequence in that in that town I
thought that was great like that was a very different
type of action sequence for Star Wars movie It
was like this like guerrilla style action war
moment that was like, wow, this is this is great.
I was kind of wishing we got a little bit more
of that type of action. But, you know, it's still
Star Wars. So I guess you still need to give
us the space battles. Yeah. And you can see like
you can see some of the tactics to where they
were trying to toss the grenades at the little
tank things, you know, just kind of like we do
when we're playing battlefront. You know, it
was kind of the same type of strategies. I was
like, oh, that's pretty cool. You know. Did you
know Warwick Davis had a little cameo on that
spot? He was like the one little dude. Oh, was
he? Yeah I just found that out as I was doing
research. So that was that was pretty cool speaking
at the movie as a whole so obviously the premise
of the film is You know, they're trying to get
the Star Wars or the Death Star plans But there's
obviously a lot more to it than just that, because
it's not just simply go here, get the plans,
and that's it, which is what I kinda thought
it was gonna be, but it was a lot more pieces.
You had the father dynamic, father -daughter
dynamic. You had to get to this guy, pilot. So
there are a lot of moving things going on. Did
you guys have, how did you feel like overall,
the story, this being a Star Wars story, how
well was it told? Did it? ever seem confusing?
Did it seem fluid enough for you? I was extremely
happy with it, I thought. The part that really
kind of dominated my thoughts was just the fact
that Galen Erso was building this flaw into the
system. Because for a lot of years, people that
have seen the Star Wars movies but were critics
of it, they've always said like one of the things
I've always said is like well how could they
so easily blow up this huge Death Star station
like that's stupid you know what I mean this
like just provides like a really perfect answer
for it and fills in the gap perfectly just showing
that he built in this flaw and um hit it in the
plans and everything so that sort of just overwhelmed
me in a positive way and I was like that just
fits perfectly you know the way they did it and
everything so I was extremely happy with that
and uh you know the whole backstory with is he
a traitor is he like loyal to the empire it was
sort of interesting it wasn't like the most entertaining
thing in the world but I did get a kick out of
that you know, it kind of like it goes as a mirror
because, you know, Gia Nerso is trying to find
out her way too because she's really not sure
what to think of her father. She's not even seen
him in so long. So it was kind of as you're finding
out about him, you start to find out who she
is. So it was kind of like a cool little parallel
thing going along. But I enjoyed it. What about
you, Greg? Yeah, I thought they did a good job
explaining at the front of kind of what's going
on and everything And so it was very easy to
follow the the lines that they were casting out
for everybody watching So I had no problem keeping
up with it. I guess listening to Chuck now. I
kind of agree that It might have been a little
bit boring with the storyline of her father and
not because it seemed like from the very beginning
that he was kind of like against the Empire and
everything and so I really didn't have any like
questioning doubts in my mind about his Motivations
and everything so that I could have done without
that I guess but overall I thought it was a really
great job yeah, I guess I got the overall I think
the General reasoning behind everything worked
for me some of the pieces I guess I and I feel
like maybe a second wash would would make it
a little bit more clear like why we're going
to specific spots over like when they were going
to Release her they were going to find that pilot
the pilot was giving them a specific message
in this message then they were to transfer to
get further information and they would get that
further information and Then get more information
from the Death Star like if you were like to
kind of jot it out Like the piece by piece it
seems like a lot of different like a lot of different
factors to kind of get where they end up going
but during it I was comprehensive enough I do
feel like there was a lot of especially at the
first 15 minutes I felt like we went to like
10 different planets and I was like okay we're
at this planet and now we're at this planet and
then we're here and yeah it was it was a lot
of a lot going on and maybe like I said because
I going into this side was gonna be more you
know okay they get her you know her father's
does the Death Star plans okay they get here
and then they're gonna go then try to find him
to get like either the plans or what have you.
I thought it was going to be basically, you know,
kind of a three -step process, but there is a
little bit more to that. And what was kind of
cool too, what I like about, like you talked
about, Chuck, was like the details and kind of
seeing a lot of like the world of Star Wars and
how big it is and how, you know, we think of
the rebels and you think of this one unit, but
here we see there are multiple factions that
are going against the Imperials. You had Whitaker's
team that's like you know kind of the enemy of
my enemy is my friend like you know the rebels
aren't necessarily Cozy with them, but they both
hate the Empire So like seeing how like there's
a lot of different people there's a lot of chaos
going on It kind of expanded the the world of
Star Wars in that way where you know was the
rebel alliance was just one piece of it and seeing
how that I was surprised we didn't get anything
in the Senate to see like you thought maybe we
would get a scene or two knowing that like one
Martha and Jimmy Smith's character no I'm glad
we didn't but I thought maybe we would because
you know they have they have this political game
there they're doing where underneath they're
trying to be rebels but they're also trying to
work the political landscape of it too and even
the Imperials are doing that because after that
blow up that city they have to say it's a mining
accident and then Yeah, I think a point I I thought
they would have mentioned something about that
too because really I mean they didn't dissolve
the Senate until a new hope because you hear
the one Imperial officer say it and Like they
also talk about You know arresting Leia might
Lend sympathy to the rebels cause and stuff like
that. So I thought they would mention something
about the senate in passing but you're right
though they did a great job of making it seem
more like a a large alliance like a large uh
rebellion more so than we saw in some of the
other ones i think yeah i i did like that that
portion of it was there anything else you guys
wanted to bring up anything about i didn't mention
i had some other things uh some things i really
liked and some things i didn't um I really liked
the dogfighting scenes, like with the Red Squadron,
Blue Squadron, Gold Squadron, stuff like that.
Some of them, some of them were archived footage
from A New Hope that they just reused. Oh, really?
I did not know that. Yeah. I didn't know that
at first either, but someone mentioned it to
me and I ended up looking it up and it is correct.
When they had, when they show the red leader
and the gold leader, that's actually archived
footage from the first movie. which is I was
wondering I'm like how did they get it to look
so much like that but I'm like I'm an idiot but
it just it's so seamless like it really blends
well so I thought that was cool um also like
the you know Vader ripping through the rebel
troops on the one ship that was amazing oh that
was yeah that goes on it's like one of the scenes
of the year for me like that was oh I that makes
you want a Darth Vader movie Yeah, that I feel
like that was the climax cuz and you if you had
a great story about was it Was it your nephew
your niece or something kept asking when Vader
was gonna appear and like that was a great at
that moment Yeah, so yeah, we want to see this
with my brother my nephew and he's a huge Darth
Vader fan, which is kind of weird. He's you know,
he's four years five years old Well, my brother
made a good point because he watched them with,
I should have warned him, but he watched them
in the wrong order. They watched them episode
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6. So, they grew up with Anakin
being the hero of this story. So, for them, in
a lot of ways, it is Darth Vader's story, but
for him... Darth Vader is a hero, first and foremost,
because the majority of the films that they've
seen, the first three, except for the end of
the third one, obviously, and then the end with
the return of the Jedi turns good. So for them,
he's the hero of the story, so that's why he's
a big Darth Vader fan. So he was like, when's
Darth Vader coming? And that was the moment,
and right after that is when we get the first
Darth Vader scene with him in his lava castle,
which is pretty cool. Did you know the background
behind that, too? At the castle all I had heard
was that the I know at some point he had He had
one on Mustafar because of that's where it's
happened That's where the accident happened and
he felt like a you know a connection in there
or whatever But other than that I didn't really
know anything So that that was based upon a design
that was originally meant for return of the Jedi
So return of the Jedi the finale wasn't first
going to be on the Death Star it was going to
be at a Castle with lava like in the lava planet
where Darth Vader lived so they kind of took
that original sketch and Concept artwork and
they made it into this movie. So that was actually
kind of a callback to Kind of Lucas's original
plans with Return of the Jedi nice So you talked
about like the the dogfighting scene was the
one guys we supposed to know who he was like
I felt like For some reason he seemed like an
important character. He was like the leader the
general of the the the x -wing pilots It seemed
like I don't something about it seemed like he
was supposed to be important I don't know if
that was just me putting it into it or the one
guy that was kind of given What's his name the
all the directions and that he should kill? Felicity
Jones character like I said, I don't remember
any of the names But um, yeah, he seemed like
he was supposed to be somebody important, but
he just ended up being a dick the entire time
I think it was general Draven Well him and then
I was actually speaking of the x -wing pilot
like at the end like he had the other pilot Okay,
the the killer mustache and he was like the one
that I think he's one of the few that ends up
dying near the end. I forget. Maybe it was Red
Leader, I think. Yeah, I think it could have
been. I don't know. It just seemed like, I don't
know, for some reason he seemed like he was meant
to be an important character, but I guess maybe
that's he wasn't. Maybe it just seemed different
because of the other footage was archival footage,
except for him. Well, the Red Leader and Gold
Leader were the archived footage. OK, so they
were the same guys. The other cool thing was
the. What was it the the line about? the line
about red five Because Luke was Luke was read
five in a new hope And they made it they made
a comment about read five in this one And it
was like the same exact line that they said in
a new hope And I can't remember the actual line
right now, but That's yeah, I did read that How
did you guys feel about I mean we talked about
some of the the callbacks like that but what
about some of the other ones like you had the
r2d2 c3pio cameo um the running into those guys
from the i don't like you i don't know their
names the guys one one is because i'm wearing
a shirt is uh panda baba i don't remember the
other one it's doctor something Yeah, and Jimmy
Smith's character who was there I was completely
surprised by his appearance. I was not expecting
that at all. Yeah It was kind of uh, it was crazy
hearing him say like that. He's going back to
Alderaan. I'm like, no Did you did those bother
you at all did you think they were fine like
what were your thoughts about those I? Like that
I thought they tied them in better think You
know, they could have done I think they could
have even done some more actually the tie -in
but Obviously, you know, they did the CGI on
a couple of characters With Tarkin and Leia.
I thought the Tarkin one looked great. I thought
the Leia one didn't quite look as good for whatever
reasons Unfortunately, they're gonna have to
do a lot more of that one. Yeah, but there's
like a shiny like sheen on her Yeah Just looked
off a little bit. I don't know if Tarkin looked
like it was really the guy though. I was like,
holy crap Yeah, I didn't have an issue with Tarkin.
Like I thought he was fine I saw a lot of complaints,
but I like for me it didn't I thought they were
both a little off Yeah, I didn't I didn't mind
Tarkin I guess but the the layer one did seem
like Thought like it would have been better if
they just because I showed the opening they kind
of you see her from behind like I Figured like
they would just kind of go that way But when
you see her full face, then I'm like, wow, that's
that's not human colors. Those are not human
colors The talking one I thought was fine. It
wasn't fantastic. I'd like you said at the beginning
Greg it's better than like when they did it for
Tron or What else did they try to do that for?
I forget. Professor Xavier in Wolverine Origins
was awful. No, they definitely was much better
than those films. They did the Robert Tony Jr.
one in... Oh, Civil War. In Civil War, yeah.
Yeah, that one wasn't bad, but I think, well...
I think with that one they had at least Shots
of a younger him to kind of go back to and a
lot more reference for that one Maybe I don't
know but then Leia they had reference to so it
also wasn't as drawing I guess we'll have to
start off with because it was at the end It was
in a computer programming. So if it didn't look
completely yeah that true true true But yeah,
I didn't I didn't mind the like cameos too much
that I the one with the guys from The bar dudes
from a new hope. I just thought that was I it
was fine It was like two seconds, but that one
seemed a little unnecessary But the other ones
I like it it made sense like they are trying
to tie this all in I loved how it feeds right
into a new hope like I think that's pretty awesome
like it legitimately like This is you know, here
you go and you know end and then start a new
hope and you pick right up That was pretty I
didn't expect that. I thought it would be like
It just they sent out the plans and then there
you go. But it's like wow, that's that's really
they're cutting. They're kind of close Yeah,
it was pretty cool how they did that the one
thing I wanted to mention too was uh, I guess
if you remember in a new hope when they were
interrogating Leia trying to get the location
the rebel base and she told them Dan to Ian remember
and they ended up saying that they found a rebel
base there but it was an old abandoned base that
hadn't been used in in a while so I thought like
it would have been really really cool I thought
it was kind of a missed opportunity they could
have somehow Put that into there. I know it would
have been one more planet one more location,
but I thought it would have been kind of cool
to show that maybe like The reason that they
left or something like that or that's a whole
movie though. That's that's what they're thinking,
right? Yeah, it could be that's quite possible
for sure but that's a story that I would like
to see too possibly, you know, cuz it's like
okay Well, they had a big rebel base there. Why?
why are they not using it anymore and stuff like
that. So yeah, it's pretty cool. And then the
one other thing was like, I know when Greg and
I went and I had a couple of my friends from
work with us, you know, obviously when they're
testing out the Death Star, they're just kind
of they're blowing up a small area on the planet.
They're blowing up like one city or something
like that or one small area of the planet. And
Some of us are like, OK, well, what's the reasoning
behind that? I think I remember them saying during
Rogue One, I think he just makes the specification
of using one reactor when they fire up the test.
I think that's the difference as opposed to like
when they do a full test where they where they
Ignite all the reactors and blow up the planet.
I think that was the difference where they just
did like one Reactor, so it was kind of limited
power where they would just destroy one city
or something like that. So Yeah, yeah, I think
that's good. They dropped some line like that
where they weren't going They weren't dialing
it up all the way. They were kind of Limiting
it to a specific location and I yeah my guess
for that was just I think they were still Figured
like it was it was nearly complete But I think
they were kind of putting the finishing touches
on it before they kind of like announced that
it was existing I guess they were waiting for
it in order to like I loved how they showed the
actual like, it was like the same shot of the
two Imperial guards where they kind of had to
duck out of the way when the green beam was like,
it was like the same shot from A New Hope. It
was kind of cool. And then I didn't realize that
like about the Death Star, I guess watching,
thinking back to A New Hope, I never really,
it didn't dawn on me that the Death Star could
enter hyperspace. Yeah, yeah, where are its engines?
Like that's... Yeah, and like I never realized
that because like the old one, you know All they
say is like set course for Alderaan and then
it cuts away and then it cuts back and they're
there but like this one you actually they actually
like, you know specifically mention it that they
travel through hyper space with the Death Star
and sick. Oh, wow, that's really impressive to
move like a Ship the size of a moon through hyperspace
is like pretty crazy to think about Yeah, I liked
how they did hyperspace. I don't know if it was
different than before but like how It was you
know, you're you're fighting in a battle and
suddenly there's an entire Death Star or there's
like the rebels like legit like on top of you
immediately like it just It's a cool little tactic.
I guess just that's what I thought of it So how
quickly a battle can escalate through the use
of hyperspace? What did you think of the final
world that they were in? Like the spaceballs
-esque world with the shielding around it and
that final insane climax? That was pretty cool.
It was interesting. That's risky when you do
something like that shield and they had the shield
gate and everything because we didn't see that
in any of the other movies. It immediately introduces
that Little bit of a hole in the logic. It's
like well Why weren't they using that on Endor
to like protect that from you know, so that was
the first time Chuck Why use it a second true,
but if they defended it better, I guess but I
don't know I guess It was a good it was a cool
idea I think it was just like if you're gonna
Criticize the the Empire for using it. You have
to look at their logic for like all right. Well
Why do you leave your communications array so
out in the open where someone could just change
the satellite and shut it off? It was a cool
thing though. You see the one ship, a couple
of the ships got through and then the last guy
was trying to get through right when it closed
off and he crashed and everything. That was kind
of cool. I enjoyed it. I thought the overall
look of the world was cool because it was something
different for a Star Wars movie. We never saw
a beach planet war take place. Where did they
film that, by the way? Because that was gorgeous.
Well, before the fighting took place. I don't
know. My guess is... Usually like Hawaii is the
automatic stand -in for most islands. So maybe
I was thinking South Pacific something. Maybe
I don't know Yeah, um any anything else before
we give our just overall final thoughts I don't
think so. I'll probably think of something later.
But yeah Maybe Greg starting with you. So, you
know, where would you and in the looking at the?
vast array of Star Wars movies that's continuously
growing every year now Where does this rank for
you? Is this near the top of Star Wars films
in the upper echelon? You know, where would you
put this? Top three are definitely the original
then I would put this movie in fourth Yeah, and
then then I would put the last one the force
awakens after this one and then all the George
Lucas prequel stuff after that way behind What
about you? I disagree slightly on the back end
there, but I think original trilogy Definitely
one two and three I agree with that for the fourth.
I would say it's a toss -up between this one
and and Revenge of the Sith. I actually really
did like that movie. I thought that was the best
of the original or it was the best of the prequel
prequel trilogy. Yeah, I agree. That was that
was my favorite as well. Chuck of the prequel.
Yeah. And then I would put like maybe. I don't
know, I think Phantom Menace is definitely last,
but I think Force Awakens might be second to
last for me. I just I don't know. It wasn't.
Into yeah, you would you would put Clone Wars
above for Force Awakens. I think I might Wow,
I've only seen it once though. So I think if
I rewatched it, I might change my mind, but I
actually for so quick ranking for me I actually
would put clone The second episode to attack
of the clones attack of the clones That's the
last for me. Honestly for me if like my ranking
would go Empire Strikes Back a new hope Probably
then Honestly force awakens and then and then
episode 3 and then this and then episode Phantom
menace and then episode 2 So I really like I
really do like episode 3 a lot I know it's got
issues and but the first two stand above I like
return to the Jedi I would put return to the
Jedi Actually, I must I forgot return to the
Jedi I Put return to the Jedi after after This
I think I don't know. I that's hard to say to
me. It's a good but I like I liked Force Awakens
a lot more I liked and I think I Enjoy episode
3 a little bit more too. But again, it's only
I've only seen it once so I might it might go
up there on second viewing More so but I still
think it's a strong film. Okay, I really think
there's only two awful Star Wars movies being
episode one and two Empire Strikes Back and A
New Hope were just foreign to both of them all,
unfortunately. I do have a soft spot for Return
of the Jedi. I do like that. Just because that's
the kind of the culmination of everything and
you kind of see Luke at his strongest, so it's
like kind of cool that way. Yeah, yeah. I do
like it. Like I said, I think I like all of them
a lot. It's tough, so. Like that that ranking
could kind of change because it's hard comparing
movie like return of the Jedi compared to something
else I think what force awakens has that like
no other Star Wars movie does for me is that
there's an element of mystery That is that I
find really refreshing because with this we kind
of know what's gonna happen for the most part
for the original trilogy We we knew what would
happen because we would just pop in the next
movie like when I would watch Star Wars I would,
you know, the story was complete by the time
I was old enough to watch it. And then for the
prequels, we obviously knew what was going to
happen. But for the force awakens, it's like
there's a mystery there that I'm excited about
that. I just couldn't be with anything else.
So maybe I can see that maybe with the other
episode eight and nine that, you know, that mystery,
if that mystery is either surpassed with those
or what have you, maybe that would change. But
for now, I just Think what what sells that movie
for me just I just love all those characters
and it just has a I think a good use of nostalgia
without Relying on it too heavily, but I don't
know. It's a cool world that we live in we're
getting a Star Wars movie every year Yeah All
right. So what do you this is my question you
guys? Okay now we know they're planning a Han
Solo Movie at this point. They are already have
him cast as well as Lando and stuff like that.
But as far as other Directions other spin -offs.
Where do you think? They should go next. What's
something else that they should explore a story
that needs to be told? You know a lot of the
extended universe more than I do so I don't there's
one that Wait, is that before or after where
does that take? It's in the midst of the originals
I believe I Would like to see a little the Old
Republic like when it like a story a movie just
taking place Within that time frame that would
be kind of cool because it's like how do you
how you deal with that? Even though it's like
thousands of years Before you know a new hope
but somehow the technology is just a little bit
worse But I do I would like to see even if it's
from the first that that first star Knights of
the Old Republic game has a great Star Wars story
So even if they took that verbatim, I think that
would make a great movie yeah, I like the idea
of The one rumor I heard they could possibly
be exploring a Yoda movie Interesting think that
could be very interesting obviously how old he
is. There's a lot to tell there Something I personally
Right. Yeah, exactly. Something that I personally
would want to see that I didn't really hear anybody
else mention was the I just think the story of
Obi -Wan and some of the couple of surviving
Jedi after Order 66. Like, where did they go?
What did they do exactly? Like, I want to see
what Obi -Wan did between the time where, you
know, he took Luke and he just kind of like went
hid in his cave. Did he do anything else? Did
he go anywhere else? obviously he knew Vader
was still alive somehow, how did he know that?
And a couple of the other surviving Jedi, like
where did they go, what did they do? Because
there is some stuff in the expanded universe,
but I'm not sure if it's considered canon or
not. So I'd like to see him explore that a little
bit, because I think Obi -Wan is my favorite
character overall. Star Wars site. I'm always
fascinated with him They do touch on that with
the current Star Wars series like they've had
like the the majority of that series takes place
from in between A new hope and Empire Strikes
Back. They have a few like standalone issues
where they talk about where they have obi -wan
stories Were they where it's like in between
him and like when Luke was a little kid? So if
I could get what issue issue numbers they are
but and those are reportedly canon, so But yes
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we've been talking in circles. We'll see you
next time. Porkins, that's what we do. Yes, Porkins.
some sort of wacky teenage dolly about how he
was able to become a pilot. Kind of Dukes of
Hazard style, I think. Yeah. It's like Porky,
but Porkins. It'd be like a little coming -of
-age movie. You could have Porkins, Biggs, Luke
and Wedge, maybe. Little quartet. Write it down,
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