Talking in Circles
2016 March Badness Bracket: Part One
About this Episode
This is Jason Marsden, voice of Duke from G .I.
Joe Renegades. You're listening to the Geekcast
Radio Network. Yo, Joe. You are now on the inside
of what I like to call the circle of trust. We
are all connected in the great circle of life.
You know something, Bert? What? I think you and
I are going in circles. It feels like we're going
in circles. The circuit is now complete. When
I left you, I was but the learner. Now I am the
master. Because it's a circle. Yeah, we heard
about the circle. Yes, we're familiar with shape.
Hi, this is Chuck. This is Greg. And this is
Dan. And we are Talking in Circles, brought to
you by the Geekcast Radio Network. podcast as
once again trying to find out who truly is the
biggest badass yes the three -year tradition
continues as well we continue our badass bracket
we have eight sixteen new competitors this year
we're starting with one bracket this week one
bracket next week to determine 2016's biggest
and truly baddest badass but before we get to
that how's the week been going for you guys My
book was actually pretty cool. I got to do something
pretty unique. I actually got to go to a vintage
comic book auction Nice nice. Yes, and it was
it was kind of local it was in my area so I didn't
have to travel very far but uh What happened
was there was an older guy that? Just wanted
to sell his collection I mean, I think I found
out the guy was like in his 70s and he just had
like a an attic with some old comics in it and
stuff and he just wanted to get rid of them.
And so I went to this auction. They had everything
sort of listed online that I was looking at beforehand.
And then they had like a preview night where
you could go and look through what they had.
It was only like, I want to say, maybe 300 comics
or something like that. It wasn't a huge collection,
but there were some very nice pieces in it, some
very old pieces. As you would expect, the guy
was like 77 or something like that, but he actually
had a Superman number three from 1939. Nice.
Yeah. And unfortunately, the one of the pages
was missing from that. It had an entire page
ripped out. So you really want to understand
the story at all. So. Right. Like I guess the
people at the auction were like looking through
it and they've. Like they found out that it was
missing after they looked over Closer because
originally they missed it. They they thought
it was intact, but it wasn't so but I got to
hold it I got to check it out. So that was pretty
cool. It's probably the first time The last time
I'll ever hold that old of a comic. So They're
like armed guards around you while you're touching
it like there's absolutely no one around me,
which is really weird because I'm like They're
like and it's an auction. So it's kind of like
It's weird cuz like I was I went there expecting
like okay, this is gonna be you know You're gonna
have to put on like white cotton gloves to like
look at this stuff if you really want to or else
the guy's gonna like Open it for you and everything
like that and they're just like nope. You can
look at whatever you want. I'm like And as an
auction so like you have to that's kind of their
policy with things it's like you buy it as is
so if you're there before the auction at a preview
you better look it over and inspect it and make
sure that it's to your liking if you're gonna
buy it so you know we had you had people looking
at it and stuff and so i'm like all right i think
superman number three i'm gonna look through
it but um as you know like with a with a page
missing or anything that would make a comic incomplete.
It's like a huge downgrade to the actual grade
of the comic. I think it immediately drops it
to like a point five or a one point or something
like that in the grading. But even with that,
it's still sold for over six hundred dollars,
which is pretty crazy. Yeah. But you totally
could have bought that truck. Yeah, it's just,
it's an orthot though. Cause like I was - It's
an investment. Yeah. I found online where one
had sold like that before and it, it wasn't much
more than that. So by the time you pay to get
it graded and it wasn't graded at all. So, but,
uh, I did get some cool stuff. Uh, there weren't
too many people there, thankfully. So I was able
to get some deals on some stuff, but, um, I was
able to get a couple, uh, comics about. a couple
of my favorite characters actually i was able
to pick up marvel premiere number one which is
in fact the first appearance of adam warlock
really yeah so i was pretty stoked about that
how much does he look like actually adam warlock
is the first parent uh... quite a bit actually
except for the you know the creepy little underoos
and the robin legs i'm glad you know eventually
they went to the full pants for him because yeah
kind of weird but um but yeah he i got that one
uh it's in pretty good shape i got a decent price
on it so i was pretty excited about that having
a first appearance like that and um Also got
a Captain Marvel comic which was part of the
old Thanos story like when he first got the cosmic
cube and Captain Marvel beat him by destroying
the cosmic cube In this particular comic is actually
the origin story of Thanos. It kind of tells
its origin So I was super excited to get that
too. Oh, so that's that's not technically his
first appearance No, I mean his first appearance
is Iron Man 55 But this was a very early story
I think from the early 70s or maybe 1970 somewhere
in there, but it's Captain Marvel number 33 But
that was part of that whole first story arc with
Thanos and Captain Marvel and stuff. So very
important story in his timeline, but Yeah, it's
pretty pretty cool night. I got some some cool
stuff walked away a happy camper. So So the question
is, how did you organize those? Because apparently
that became a topic of a conversation last week
on the comment section on Kikas Radio. The organization
of comics is apparently a lot more popular than
I realized. Right. I don't know. Right now I
haven't stored them away yet. I'm kind of thinking
of a way to secure them so that they don't get
bent or anything like that. Are you going to
get any of them graded? I'm actually thinking
about... Getting the warlock when graded maybe
the next time we go to a convention or something
like that I'll drop it off and I think it probably
takes a couple hours. I think you could step
back and pick it up and Yeah, for those that
don't know what that means. It's basically you
provide it was a comic book court of authority
Organization that you provide them a comic they
look through it and determine like how the quality
of that comic on a what 1 .1 scale to 10 or something
like that and Then it's actually poop emoji to
10 actually they use emojis now. That's how they
Oh gosh, don't even joke I can see the day where
that would happen and Then they put it I guess
to get in a glass case with a grate on it And
then that's usually if you're selling it or you
know looking to get its value. That's the best
way to determine that so It's pretty cool Very
nice Greg. How things going with you? Good. I
got a free burrito this week. It was awesome.
I plan on getting another free burrito tomorrow.
By free? Are you just not paying for them? Or
is it Chipotle and it's just like they're so
desperate right now for customers that they don't
even charge anymore. Yeah, I just I take the
burrito and shove it down my pants and walk out
now. It's actually Chipotle They sent out coupons.
I picked up one my mother picked up one and My
mom has also stolen many from the apartment complex
from the recycling bin from the old people We
are going to get many free burritos. I hope Chipotle
is not listening to this. They are probably not.
But if they are, they should just advertise with
us so we can get free burritos anyway. Yeah,
that would work. I mean, hey, they could use
it. They're like. There I was looking at I'm
reading a thing where like they're their sales
are like rum, you know Or pummeling because you
know the whole e coli thing. Yeah, they they
took a pummeling in that respect Let's all think
with the along with the free burrito you get
free salmonella. Yeah I have survived the many
times that I've gotten there since that uh fiasco
I've been honestly kind of spooked to go there
because like I like that place, but once I started
hearing this, I have not been back at all. I've
been totally fine, Chuck, and I have the weakest
stomach ever. End of this recording, you hear
Greg throwing up in the background. Like chunk
from the Goonies in the back. Everybody was like,
huh. I usually poop a lot during the recordings,
but I have I feel no urges from burrito -ness
coming back through the system. Yeah, I feel
like I have a I've heard we have that impact
on a lot of people. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah.
So my way has been pretty uneventful. But you
know, you ever have a situation where like Remember
something from your childhood you try to like
relive it and it just doesn't doesn't pan out
nearly as much as you would like I kind of had
that happen to me twofold. So I mentioned a few
weeks ago So i'm working from home now and i'm
thinking i'm working from home So I can actually
like during lunch like make real food and i'm
a big fan of cheese steaks But and my wife isn't
so I don't really make them So I was trying to
find a way like I can I can't make it like a
full -on Cheese steak during lunch because I
don't have that much time But if I could find
a go -between, I'm like, you remember when I
was a kid, I would eat those Steak 'em things.
Oh, like Minute Steaks? Yeah, and those were
good. No, they aren't. So I'm like, well, that's
quick, it's easy, and I'll be able to use that
as my... is a good which means I can't, you know,
use a good cheesesteak anyplace else. So, or
at least a good cheesesteak. Yeah, so you're
completely right. There are, made it, put it
on a bun, like started eating it, and like I
was just like everything in me to like not. Throw
up and it was just like this is not real meat.
This is this makes me regret It's like, you know,
it's like wow, I can get an upgrade by going
to Taco Bell and gaining their fake food It's
not see what what I do up here is if you if we
want to make our own Philly cheesesteak there's
either Bosax where the the one time one of my
grandparents died and the neighbor sent over
like this tray from Bosax and it had like thinly
sliced pieces of meat it's still like there's
some juice in the container and everything we
just took that and put that in a bun with some
cheese didn't even melt the cheese on it and
it was fucking delicious or we go up to the buffalo
shop in the hamlet corners and we get some kind
of Buffalo from there. That's kind of on the
thinner side for the meat and it takes like maybe
Not even five minutes to cook that up with some
cheese on there put in a roll and you're good
to go And that what that option is really good
because it's really healthy. Yeah, but I don't
really have that option Yeah, you don't have
any of those options. Sorry, Dan and Chuck you
you have that option Chuck Yeah, so, but yeah,
it just reminded me of things that I would eat
as a kid and like, I can't do that now. I remember
as a kid, I would eat cottage cheese, and I look
at that now, cottage cheese with ketchup. That
makes me throw up now. That's just the idea of
it, but as a kid, I could not. God, I don't know.
It was just weird. I had that when I had my tonsils
out. It was terrible. Actually, I make my own
little sort of dip with cottage cheese and salsa.
Really not wish I would think would go together.
It sounds totally weird, but just try it is delicious
What kind of salsa though like you just regular
mild like salsa like chunky salsa? What does
that taste like? It tastes like awesomeness I
Don't know what it is. It's actually really good.
I Did that happen by accident? No, someone told
me about it. And I had the same reaction. You
got cottage cheese in my salsa. You got salsa
in my cottage cheese. I had the same reaction
you're having right now to them. And I was like,
you're crazy. I'm like, that sounds like total
garbage. And I went home and tried it. And I'm
like, my gosh, that's really good. Really? Wow.
I would not have. Totally crazy. Just do it.
You're going to like it. The more you know, the
more you know. So I also had another element
of my childhood come back and Realized well,
I kind of knew it was kind of garbage but seeing
it come back again and that's I don't know if
you guys checked it out, but Fuller House the
Sequel series the full house has finally hit
Netflix Stephanie Tanner dancing around I would
totally hit that but no, I did not watch the
show You haven't watched it either. I heard it
was out and At first I heard it got bad reviews
and then I talked to people I knew that said
they liked it So I'm kind of curious to hear
what you have to say. It is Extremely corny.
It is sometimes so awkward that I got up and
left the room It's like the acting is at times
very questionable But yeah, it is very much the
original show like it's self -aware They know
what they're doing and they know what kind of
show to show they're making it is Like the original
tool fault, you know, sometimes it works. Sometimes
it's not all that great. There is an episode
with Macy Gray and to gosh. Yeah, exactly. Who
is, of course, reprising her grading acting career
since Spider -Man the original spider, you know,
people could not get enough of her since then.
And with then there's also this she's singing
and then there's these dancers and both the dancers
are from Dancing from the Stars. And I hate the
fact that I know that, but I do. I also know
that. And they're brothers and I know their names
and that makes me sad. But it is like it's that
like moment there's like this moment with them
dancing and everything and they're just being
super super corny I think it's set tv back a
good 15 20 years in and with with that sequence
And macy gray is like so bad like she's so bad.
It's funny that she's bad Then it gets sad that
she's bad and it's just it keeps like deteriorating
worse and worse You're just like it's just it's
just awful and it's like then it's kind of funny
again But it's like, oh no, it's awful. It's
just it's just this endless cycle of just then
she talks more It just uh and but those hit that
nostalgia aspect well enough, you know, uh seeing
them all kind of back together again and It does
seem like it like the show just naturally continued
to where it's at It is the type of like sitcom.
You really don't see nowadays. It's very much
that classic sitcom with the self -referential
jokes They do a lot of like the classic sayings
like, you know, you got it, dude. You've got
it, dude yeah and all that and some of that it
ow some of that's done on the nose some of it
but it you know but what's interesting is at
this time it's it's on Stephanie Tanner and like
her husband who was a firefighter passes away
and that brings in Kimmy and her sister uh But
they kind of end up living together trying to
like grow up one another and then there's new
kids at this time where she's three daughter
and three sons instead of three daughters and
With Kimmy also has a daughter as well I wasn't
a biggest fan of like the new kids like I feel
like these type of kids all look are exactly
the same like Disney has a Factory someplace
that they just like shoot these kids out They
all have like the same personalities and looks
and like look kind of like anime characters,
but not quite I don't know. They just seem very
like corny and very uh there is something original
about them that's something the thing i did like
about the original full house was like the The
kids weren't your typical, you know, generic
looking cute kids. There was something, like,
unique about them. These kids look just kind
of normal. There's a one, like, the youngest
son who's pretty, or the middle son, I should
say. He was pretty funny. He was legit, like,
you know, kid acting above his age that he had
some legitimate laughs. I don't know. Like I
said, it's exactly what it is. Like, if you enjoyed
Full House, if that's what you're looking for.
i'm not gonna lie at times it hurt the watch
and it was but it was like a car wreck that you
with bad acting that you couldn't look away from
and at the end of the day i you know i would
watch the next season so i don't know what that
says about me but i i don't i don't think i can
watch it because of an incident after the the
first version of of full house uh went away uh
you won't know you're watching it greg i know
and you know you guys know what i'm talking about
i've told you guys this story before but uh i
was at uh a comedy show at King's College. It's
in Wilkes -Barre with a bunch of people I know.
And it was Dave Coulier was doing his comedy
stylings on stage. And I got peer pressured into
shouting Atlantis Morissette at him on stage.
If you don't know, he and her were together and
she wrote that. her most famous song about him
uh because apparently she got sent to the hospital
because she had too much jizz in her stomach
from him uh that's the the rumor anyway so i
yelled Alanis Morissette me being wuss i put
my head down put my hat down over my face and
he totally spotted me and called me out on it
so to this day i can Look at or watch anything
with Dave Coulier in it because I feel totally
like an asshole Well, that's where that's my
fun little story. That's weird because I did
make reference to it in the show, too They're
like, yeah, that's one time. I was making at
a comedy show and no, not really It is kind of
funny though. I heard I heard that she does get
mentioned Don't remember that they may have I'm
not gonna lie. It's not like I Watched every
little detail and they may have been doing other
things with it in the background and stuff like
that So Dan's like sleeping on the couch. I missed
like four episodes That's I'm not gonna lie that
may have happened And yeah, so it may have happened
and it's like Carol would be like, you want to
go back and watch the ones you missed? I'm like,
I'll catch up. I think I'll be OK. I think I'll
follow this. I think I'll be able to connect
the dots. Oh, they're still trying to figure
out. Danny Tanner still loves cleaning. Yeah,
I got this. I got it. I understand. Which one's
Jesse? Which one's Danny? OK, yeah, I'm caught
up. They did like. Split up the cast enough like
so like every so often a new an old cast message
like the first episode It's pretty much all the
old cast and then they only like like come in
here and there see Bob Saget doing Danny Tanner
again Just feels weird because i've watched his
comedy since then and it just feels like He should
not be around kids. Like it should not they should
probably put him in someplace else He's gonna
have sex with everyone on that cast It's just
like you shouldn't be around people Anyways,
but besides Fuller House today when we're recording
this the internet kind of exploded and not because
it came Kardashian, but But there's no linking
there, but the internet exploded Because of underoos
because of underoos. Yeah somebody else showing
their underoos and that's because the Captain
America Civil War trailer the third one came
out and of course if you Already know already
a certain web slinger appears. So before before
we get to spider -man though We've already seen
like three or four trailers already Anything
new to you guys really stick out in this last
trailer for Civil War? Black Panther got a better
look at him looks awesome but just in general
looks way better than anything DC really has
coming out soon, so Yeah, take that DC. I don't
know I feel bad for DC, but I know part of me
thinks that Suicide Squad is gonna be good and
yeah, I want it to be good, but I don't think
Batman versus Superman is gonna Do anything at
all? That's yeah. Well, yeah the first reviews
have actually come out for that and they're like
if you like Man of Steel You probably like this
one. I'm like is that Okay, then That's not a
great review right there. So like 30 % of the
people maybe yeah Something like that if you
like your Superman as a mass murderer you will
enjoy now I do like him as a man Chuck thoughts
on the trailer. I Was I was actually I watched
that work today. I knew it was coming out. So
I had like I Kept Twitter up on my phone and
like I would check it like every five minutes
Because I knew that would probably be the first
place it would hit. And Chuck lost his job because
of this. Right, but it was totally worth it.
I'm going to work for Marvel now as their Twitter
liaison. Pretty much figured it would that would
be the first place that you would see it and
I was right But they I started seeing people
posting about it like oh coming soon coming soon.
I'm like just freaking put it up You know, they're
gonna release it in like 140 tweets It's like
just just per screen, you know, it's screenshot
after screenshot The ones the one site was like
tickets go on sale in seven minutes trailer coming
soon. Okay Anyway, it's now because otherwise
this is your last shot. So yeah, I think Marvel
Pretty much released it at like noon At least
our time Easter time anyway, so I I got to see
it pretty much as soon as it came out and Luckily,
it was right at my lunchtime. So it was perfect.
I May have went to lunch early Usually get a
lunch. I won myself came in Come out. I'm like
I might take an early lunch today. So that may
have happened early and longer There's only so
much, you know, I need to at least watch it four
or five times before I get to you know, I Had
to immediately show other people. I was like
banging on my desk and stuff. People are like
walking by like looking But yeah, I thought it
was awesome like obviously the spider -man part
stuck out to me, but There's a couple other parts
that I really thought were cool, which was the,
you get a glimpse of Black Panther looked like
he was standing on a rooftop and there was gunfire
basically just raining down upon him and the
bullets were just bouncing off of him like nothing.
So you get a pretty cool idea of his vibranium
suit and like how effective it is. I thought
that was really. Really cool visual because he's
just standing there like he's not even a wincing
or like blocking with his hands He's just like
standing there and bolts are bouncing off of
him, which was crazy It took me a second. I saw
that. I'm like, wow, they're killing black. Oh,
no vibranium. There you go. So And then the other
part I thought was really cool was uh Scarlet
witch like just looked like she was totally disabling
vision. Yeah I mean that could be like a meant
to kind of like mislead us but like at least
for what she was doing it looked like really
really cool because it looked like she was totally
like destroying him because he had like red like
all over his body and he just drops to his knees
and stuff but they were they were just totally
having sex that's all oh yeah they totally missed
reading that yeah it was like telepathic sex
yeah exactly he was just having that was his
old face he got down on his knees and was just
oh Well, you know, that does kind of happen in
the comics, so there you go. So his, like, computer
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zero What'd you think? I liked it, yeah, I was,
it's... use by far the best trailer they had
yet and There was a lot of a lot of great moments.
I love the little nod to the originals Captain
America Like I could do this all day like that
like that was awesome. Oh, yeah that part that
gave me chills, too That was awesome. Like that's
they electrifying Eat chills. Yeah that like
the Black Panther looks like he's gonna be phenomenal
in this and what they're doing It looks like
he's gonna kick major ass, which is super exciting.
And there were some things I like I feel like
they Kind of let it slip that it seems like a
certain character is definitely gonna die I don't
know it seems like it almost I don't know if
that's yeah like a swerve or something But it
does I feel like someone will die like it just
seems like it has to happen and like something
needs to be the caveat that Causes all to go
but it could be could be wrong Yeah, it looks
phenomenal and you know loving seeing Ant -Man
with on top of the Hawkeye's arrow and like all
these little like nods that they're doing I thought
they were gonna reveal that giant man was gonna
be in it like as we talked about Like you mentioned
a few weeks ago when it came to the Marvel Legends
Which it was confirmed that there was a giant
man Marvel Legends So I'm thinking maybe they
would show in the movie, but they didn't so I
don't know if that's something they're saving
or something That's not happening Think they're
just saving it because I hear a whole bunch of
stuff about giant man. I was watching Funko What
the hell's the name of it Funko? It's one of
those apps where he could not Vimeo It's where
he could watch. Yes periscope Thank you, Dan
where they were presenting like a whole bunch
new lines and stuff and they they were talking
about the Funko products coming out for Civil
War 2 and Everybody in the comments was like,
giant man, giant man. Is there going to be a
giant man? There's going to be a giant man pop,
right? There's going to be a giant man. And they're
like, oh, we don't know. And like, it was totally
obvious that there was going to be a giant man
pop. So I'm going to assume he's in the movie.
Yeah. So I'd assume he would be there. But yeah,
super super excited. But of course. The moment
like I we'd you know, was it gonna happen wasn't
not but it did happen Spider -man did show up
for its brief second But you know when that two
seconds set the world on fire, of course, it
was pretty cool Yeah, what did you think of the
look of spider -man? I thought he looked pretty
great. The eyes are definitely a crucial thing
for me in that costume. Everything else could
kind of go off a little bit. You could change
that around a little bit, if you ask me. But
I think they freaking nailed the eyes. The rest
of the costume generally falls in line what you
expect of Spider -Man, so I thought it was really
well done. Just in general from that little clip
we got, he looks pretty cool. I can't wait to
see him joined up with everybody. And it's kind
of interesting how he kind of gets. I think that's
how they're going to even introduce him in the
movie. So that I thought that was kind of a neat
little thing. Yeah. Yeah. What do you think,
Chuck? I liked it a lot. I thought he looked
great. I had no complaints whatsoever. I started
hearing some stuff online that people were like
bashing it and everything afterwards. I don't
know how. true that is or how much backlash that's
actually getting but I feel like everything gets
backlash them like you could like here's a free
puppy those jerks with the free puppies I don't
know there's a there's a hundred hundred dollar
bill on the sidewalk oh I gotta pick it up look
at the way you place it on the ground like who
does that it's all bent and it's everything what
the hell they couldn't put a fresh dollar hundred
dollar bill down Yeah, I thought he I thought
he liked great. I had no complaints. I mean you
could definitely hear You can tell you kind of
hear how young he sounded like when he spoke
like he he's like, hey everyone Like yeah, he
sounds like a little kid. Yeah, but um, I actually
think I Don't know I could be wrong, but I have
a hunch that That won't be The way you first
see him in the movie. I think he'll be introduced
before that Like, I don't think that's his introduction
into the movie, what we saw in the trailer. I
think like he'll be introduced before that, but
that's just my hunch. We'll see if I'm right.
Sadly, I watched like an eight minute clip that
was just about the freaking costume. I'm like,
that's the world we live in when someone's going
to talk like 10 minutes about a two seconds clip
out of a trailer, but that's where we live. And
you're telling me you didn't take a longer lunch.
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Overall, I really like
the look. I think it makes it's odd that. It's
the youngest person to play the character yet.
The costume is very old -school, which is kind
of cool like even like the logo It's like the
really small spider. It very much looks like
Alex Ross influenced Steve Ditko for sure Yeah,
very spandex II. Yeah, I can like a almost like
a Silky look to it like almost like under armor
like expanded under armor, which it's interesting.
I think it's a Because I feel like all its suits
now have the texture look so I think it's kind
of cool We're seeing one go against that like
from the original spider -man to Superman now,
so I think it you know, it's time to do something
different. I And what I love about it is that
the eyes can move. Oh, I was gonna ask that I
was just gonna ask that because I wasn't sure
if my mind was playing tricks on me and since
you watch it so many times Yeah, so the eyes
actually do move and there are some people with
thinking that maybe that's actually an aspect
of like technology that maybe that that Some
Tony Tony Stark like helped him incorporate that
into the costume It also seems like he does have
web shooters and even like a little belt Where
he would keep like the pellets and stuff like
that for it for it God you you really looked
into the stand. I know it's for crazy So the
arms though like it's hard to tell but it looks
like they're actually might be black on the arms
which is which I wasn't the hugest fan of but
Overall though, I think the look looks pretty
solid. It's it was a little shocking at first
because it looks so different and it looked a
little CGI in in the but the more the I think
that was more so how I was viewing it, but I
think it's good and I Tweeted that though. I
mean, I would love it if they do would give us
the iron spidey costume I knew they couldn't
show that be that the first thing we see But
if they could debut that in some way, I would
be super happy. Yeah, I like that iron spider
That would be a big reveal. I don't think there's
any way they would show that in a trailer. They're
not like some other comic book movies where they
give everything away. Exactly. And I think a
lot of people would be confused for the general
public. But I know some people are upset that
they showed spider -man and wanted I saw some
backlash regarding that saying why didn't you
wait? But I'm like, I also get it you're talking
about like when it comes to a marketing standpoint
Like you have this thing in your back pocket
that you're having spider -man in the Marvel
universe Like if people know about it some people
but not everyone's gonna be a draw for some people
because there's some big fans out there Yeah,
maybe they're not interested in the rest of the
Avengers, but they are interested in spider -man
Yeah, so once you see spider -man in the same
world as iron Man and Captain America like that's
that's really cool. So I'm super excited like
I've been looking forward to Captain America
Super Civil War, but I'm like, you know, it's
gonna be good It's gonna be fine. But I don't
know like I now when it comes to what I'm most
anticipating I might be it's obviously the one
the comic book would be probably now that I'm
most anticipating but overall leave that in Jason
Bourne I'm like super looking forward to so but
I heard like actually I Don't I have no idea
where this came from or I don't know if there
was people that like a select few people that
somehow already have seen the movie Civil War
I'm talking about but I was reading something
online where people were saying that it's amazing
like it's they said like Spider -Man has like
an amazing role in it like he's awesome but it
doesn't like focus on him like he did in the
comics as much like he was kind of the central
character in the comic but they said that the
entire movie even with as many characters as
there are it's still very much about Captain
America and like they said it's you know it's
kind of hard to imagine that with how many Heroes
and villains and everything that they have at
this movie. You would think it would be like
scattered kind of like X -Men 3 or something
with like so many characters, but they said they
actually did a really good job of focusing on
cap So I'm kind of curious to see if that Analysis
holds true like when when I actually see it But
like I like I said, I don't know who these people
are. Yeah how they got to see it, but I haven't
seen anything I'm assuming it's done, but I don't
know for sure. But I would probably just like
editing and stuff. I know there's no official
like official like there has been any official
screenings or like screens yet. There have been
a couple for me to still maybe there have been.
But there's always those people who do see it
first. And, you know, trickles down. So if I'm
if that's true, that's awesome. But we'll see.
It's also supposed to be also supposed to be
super long. Yeah, it's the longest long two and
a half. Yeah. Yeah, so so is Batman v Superman
nothing that's even longer if I'm not mistaken.
It's gonna feel a hell of a lot longer. I think
And another building falls over You notice how
when they're fighting they're all kind of like
away from people People that people that question
It's America's leadership abilities. Yeah, he
kind of makes all those tactical calls and he
kind of moves the fight away from people. He's
doing that all without you noticing and you're
the very one that's criticizing him, so yeah.
All righty well there was another trailer I don't
know how much you guys wanted to talk about this
one came out a little while ago But after we
recorded but I figured we didn't we have talked
about the movie a little bit and that's the the
Ghostbusters trailer the infamous Ghostbusters
movie coming out this summer certainly not with
the same fanfare as that of The Civil War trailer,
but certainly a lot to talk about there. What
do you guys think of the new Ghostbusters movie?
Chuck you go first cuz I'm gonna go off I thought
it was... I don't know. I wasn't into it at all.
Like it did not make me want to see it at all
for some reason. I don't know. Maybe I was expecting
something different. I don't really know. I mean,
the CGI looked pretty good, I guess, like on
the ghosts and stuff like that. It looked halfway
decent, but it just seemed too like... Somehow
too campy or corny or something like that. I
Don't know. Maybe I'll be Surprised if I end
up seeing it or something, but it just the way
the trailer was set up It just didn't get me
excited at all for whatever reason Greg what
did you think I? Watched the trailer multiple
times to try and like the trailer I don't think
this movie is going to go anywhere that I really
care for. I'm a big fan of the original. I'll
go over the things I do like. The Ghostbusters
theme has been updated and it sounds cool. It
definitely harkens. You could definitely tell
Ghostbusters from that. I think that sounds awesome.
CGI does look good. It is kind of practical mixed
with CGI though, I heard. But it's good from
a design standpoint. I don't think if it was
another ghost movie, it's very good design. But
since it's Ghostbusters, I don't think we see
enough variety in the ghosts really. They're
all just kind of like this blue hue that kind
of mixes together. So if it was something other
than Ghostbusters, it'd be really awesome. With
it Ghostbusters, I don't think so. Think the
comedy in it so far and they usually put the
best jokes in the the trailers I thought it was
kind of softball I'm not a huge fan of Melissa
McCarthy It's a lot of pratfalls that I don't
really find humorous and her and what's the the
big girl that's kind of like Winston uh in this
movie by the way they say four scientists at
the beginning for the original they were not
all four scientists winston was not a scientist
um But the the big black girl screaming through
the entire through May the power of Patty compels
you like she just seems like a screamy annoying
character So there's there's two characters there
that I feel nothing for Really except maybe a
little bit of hatred, but it's a big word dislike
Then the other two characters, Kate McKinnon's
and Kristen Wiig. I'm not too sure on them yet.
They did have kind of softball kind of jokes
in there that really didn't hit home for me.
I really want to like those two characters. to
at least kind of hold it together a little bit
because in the original ones, the characters,
all of them weren't comedic. It wasn't really
a super comedic movie except for Bill Murray.
The rest of them kind of played support to Bill
Murray's comedy straight man. Every once in a
while, they'd have something in there, but they
were endearing characters. And from this trailer
so far, I was not getting anything really endearing
about any of them at all to really like or love
any of these characters. characters, and it definitely
tried to go way too comedic. So it just really
didn't do anything for me and I've I've seriously
been watching this trailer over and over again
to try and like it because I really really would
like to Like this movie and even the premise
seems weird where it's they're not even up against
a ghost It sounds like they're up against somebody
human who? invented something to increase the
number of paranormal activity, so that's kind
of to weird but I don't really know too much
about that so I'm cutting them slack in that
respect but overall I I'm probably gonna see
it but it's gonna be begrudgingly go see it See,
I guess I'm not nearly as down as you guys on
like when you say the best trailer jokes in the
trailers Like I don't know that's actually true
Usually that's what usually happens Well, no
usually the trailers the jokes they put in trailers
are the ones they feel like you're gonna get
the most broad appeal like the the biggest and
that's usually what happens especially Paul Feige
movies is that like his trailers don't necessarily
always represent the movies that actually is
like a like a movie like heat Or the heat I forget
the one with Sandra Bullock that looked terrible.
I didn't see the movie though Well, exactly the
the trailers didn't necessarily really represent
the movie that was there is a lot more crash
and not nearly as softballish as the trailer
made it make it did he Didn't you have another
one with Melissa McCarthy? He did bridesmaids
as well Which is I love bridesmaids and he did
spy last year, which I thought was gonna be awful
But was actually quite good. It was actually
a pretty solid spoof comedy that like again the
trailer made it seem like a generic spoof like
yeah I'm and I'm not liking Melissa McCarthy
I've watched other movies with her in it and
it just was she's loud and annoying and just
Well, I don't think that's all of her roles I
mean, I think it works for bridesmaids for sure
and she's not like that in spy and She's kind
of loud. Definitely like that character and the
heat but I also think it's she's like that quite
a bit Yes, that's the one she does I mean she
does play that role a lot and she was that like
Tammy and But she does have more range than I
think she gets kind of typecast but like Unfortunately,
but a lot of comedians do is it typecast or is
it her going? Okay This is what I'm gonna do
and she just keeps going with the same thing
kind of over and over again because that's her
thing It can be a combination of things but we
don't say that about Bill Murray who plays a
similar character all the time We don't say I
don't think Bill Murray plays a similar character
all the time is These characters aren't all that
different. I mean his character in Ghostbusters
stripes and Groundhog Day aren't aren't The variety
isn't huge or Chris Farley or you know, they're
Jim Carrey, you know these other At least they're
endearing. She's not an endearing in any stretch
of the mind Yeah, I feel like I like her a lot
better in Mike and Molly I don't know if you
guys watch that but I've just seen commercials
I've watched quite a few episodes of Mike and
Molly actually liked that show and she seems
totally different I actually like her in that
a lot. Yeah, I heard The one lady I work with
watches Gilmore Girls and she was apparently
in that and she was a different type of role
than that. That was a little bit more subdued
but still funny. But I also think it's like this
need to I think it's unfair to also compare it
and want it to be as endearing as the original
when you're talking about a movie you've seen
compared to just Trailer and like relationships
with them characters that you've been able to
cultivate over a longer period of time than just
like the Two minutes that you got with these
people So it's like you really it's hard to really
determine what the characters are gonna be like
You they're a little bit more not characters,
but they're a little bit more cartoony than I
expected But again, it may not really be that
way when you move when the movies out in If you
go back and watch original Ghostbusters, there's
a lot of Broad comedy in that to a lot of gross
-out gags. You have the infamous dream sequence
with you know, Dan Aykroyd and like, you know
Obviously, I love ghosts. That was a quick little
snippet though. That's we also don't know what
it's not lasting as long as the freaking Melissa
McCarthy possessed by a yes, that was awful.
I don't I don't disagree. That's that was pretty
bad I mean, I don't love everything about the
trailer. I just think that people The the outrage
over it is ridiculous and uh, like it's not that
bad I don't think it's nearly as bad as people
make it out to be And it's you know, it's I think
the look of the trailer the characters are fine
I mean the you know, you have the slimer in there
who looks very much like the original slimer
slimer looked very good I will agree with that.
Uh, I thought the uh, the ghosts that were there
look good Looked good enough. They look like
legit like they're updated enough versions of
the original ghostbusters movie because the original
ghostbusters movie The graphics and special effects
were pretty bad, but it made sense and I think
they kind of find that medium I'm not super looking
forward to it. I'm probably not gonna see it
in the theaters I don't expect it to nearly it
be like one -tenth of the original nearly as
good as that But I like the actresses. I think
they're all pretty solid for the most part mostly
Kristen Regan came in who I'm probably looking
forward to seeing what they're doing the most.
I feel like sometimes people act like the remake
is going to then take over the original and if
the movie's bad, it'll be forgotten and then
we'll still have the original there. You know
what I mean? I guess I don't understand the outrage,
basically. I think maybe I have more invested
in a movie with the name of Ghostbusters in it.
It is one of my favorites of all time. I still
have a stuffed stay puffed marshmallow man from
when I was little and everything. So it could
be that. But I think in general, this is going
to be a kind of a agree to disagree kind of thing.
I will see it in the theaters because I am a
Ghostbusters fan just from the original one.
So I'm going to try and give it a chance. So
I'm trying to give the trailer a chance. I seriously
must have played it like. Double digits amount
of times trying to find things that I like in
it like seriously looking Like like the music
I enjoyed the the theme that was going on. I
thought it was Very good. So if you hate this
movie, would it I didn't say I know I'm saying
you end up watching it and you and you hate it
Okay, if you're talking about future me future
you you watch it would it then negatively impact
your overall feeling towards the original movie?
No, because I love the original movies. I'm just
gonna be like oh, they're killed think they killed
I Don't know I was gonna say that yeah, they
can kind of kill in the franchise. They probably
could have done something better to keep it going
and Yeah with the with the guys so maybe they'll
learn their mistake well if there is mistakes
Maybe they can learn from it. Maybe they'll learn
from this movie and maybe adjust to something
I do like so I'm hoping for the best The motto
that we use at my job. I'm just hoping for the
best I'm trying to be optimistic about Like I
said, I'm I'm I'm hoping Kate McKinnon who looks
awesome in this movie very much looks like The
real Ghostbusters Egon kind of thing going on
did not like that Is it the wig or the hat? It's
the wig, isn't it? That was just I don't know.
But anyway, I Took that as an homage from young
Frankenstein Okay, I've watched John Frankenstein.
I don't remember that but whatever it's beyond
the point Yeah, I'm hoping Kristen Wiig and Kate
McKinnon are gonna make the movie for me It does
I mean it does seem unnecessary like this entire
movies this seem weird and it's also kind of
weird that they're They're really like you said
that in the beginning like for scientists, which
obviously is not true, but then it's not a continuation
It's a complete remake. So why are they? Yeah
referencing. Yeah They're that that that is weird.
Yeah, so I don't know like I wish if either make
it a continuation or don't and I guess they're
gonna make they're gonna be cameos possibly from
from like Dan Aykroyd and Bill Murray and it's
like I don't know. I think that's a mistake It's
either if you're not yeah, like I don't know.
It's like it were down Yeah, it's like it wants
to have its cake and eat it too. I feel like
I feel like what's Kind of pushing me away is
like like one of you guys said it like the original
really wasn't supposed to be a funny movie Like
it wasn't really totally centered around comedy
and it seems like this one. They're trying hard
to turn it into a comedy Yeah, and I think that's
what's bugging me about it. I don't know that's
like that's like Ghostbusters is probably the
best genre bending movie ever because it like,
you know, it was part horror, part comedy, part
science fiction. And it was like a good mixture
of both and never really swayed to one side where
this is just like comedy first. Or at least I'm
just worried it's going to go to slapstick, like
kind of like airplane or something like grabbing
somebody and slapping them. And I don't know.
Yeah, I think I think it was like the. The one
scene that's really turning people off, which
I understand is that the possession scene, which
seems like it just seems unnecessary. And it's
like, I get it. And plus, really, that joke has
been done so many times already. It's like, yeah,
it seems I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. What are you
going to do? It'll probably make tons of money
and it'll make us sad. It's OK, though, because
then until like a month or two after that, then
I'll have the awful Turtles movie to drown out
the sadness in that. So it's just. By the way,
I've been watching the old 90s Teenage Mutant
Ninja Turtle. I kind of have the same thing as
you with Fuller House. I'm kind of paying attention.
It is way cornier than I remember. It's totally
not what I remember, but I've still watched it
anyway and still enjoying it. I hate it when
they change voice actors and that. It's just
so irritating. It's like nails on a chalkboard
to me. I have not come back and rewatched that.
It's actually I went to back and you watch someone
like the old Batman episodes and they're not
nearly as good as I remember They're so yeah,
but they're not yet. I agree. Yeah Speaking of
the turtles did you see that they're 80 they're
doing in like another cross over Turtles movie
with the new series that's currently going on
They're bringing the 80s Turtles into the new
like TNT series. That's currently airing I think
I think I saw something that from the email you
sent me, but I didn't click on it I was busy
with other things. Sorry Yeah, one of like the
eight I don't know I feel like there's been like
eight million different versions of the turtles
But the new the one they have currently is supposed
to be crossing over with the 80s version of it
So I don't know all right. We got to end this
because we got to get to the bad Yeah, we've
been talking way too much We could split this
into the other episode yeah, all right. Well.
Let's take a quick break when we come back We'll
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All right, and welcome back. Yes, this is a 2016
badass bracket. For those that have not listened
to our past badass brackets, How dare you exactly
how how very much dare you go back and listen
to the very first one two years ago We as you
can see, I guess we're getting older and where
these are becoming smaller and smaller But that's
that's the way it goes the first one. That's
I'm sorry That's probably because of me because
I have to make up those giant charts with all
the graphics That and it just gets it gets you
know There's only so many badasses to choose
from but it but you know, it's becoming more
exclusive That's basically what it's but the
first time was 64 32 this This year we're doing
16, eight this week, eight next week, then we'll
be crowning our champion. The way it works is
two competitors are going head to head and we're
going to debate over who is the biggest badass.
What does that mean? Well, whatever we think
it means. So we're just arguing who we feel there
is the biggest badass and we'll go over and explain
why that is. There's three of us who ever gets
the most votes wins and moves on next into the
round until we crown the 2016 badass champion.
Past winners include Adrienne Peterson and Wonder
Woman and I can't think of many awards that include
both of those people. It's a very, very unique
award that is unlike anything out there, I think.
I forgot we had Wonder Woman win last year. I
forgot about that. I kind of regret Adrian Peterson
winning the first year. We did for a while, but
I feel like he's made up for it, so I think we're
okay. I think we're okay. Hopefully nothing happens
in the recording of this and he does something
else stupid. Well, we'll see, we'll see. Hopefully
if he doesn't win again this year, then something
happens. Exactly. All righty. So we're gonna
start with a few characters here. So the first
ones we're starting with are two characters that
are both really prevalent in the world of comic
books, especially in the world of cosplay. If
you go to Comic Con or Comic Convention, You're
probably going to see these characters more than
anyone. And they also star in two of the biggest
comic book movies coming out this year with Deadpool
in Deadpool and Harley Quinn in Suicide Squad.
So our first match up for the 2016 Badass Bracket
is looking at who is the biggest badass when
who is the bigger badass Deadpool or Harley Quinn?
Yeah, Greg, let's start with you because I know
you. Probably the most first in both of these
characters. So it's you seem the best person
to start with I know you do read Harley Quinn
comics you've read dead pill comics. Yes. So
Considering all that information Who do you feel
is the bigger badass? Feel like it would be easier
for me to figure out who has the nicer ass, which
would be Harley Quinn wins that I don't know.
Have you seen Ryan Reynolds? Like come on now
like that dude is um Did you see the scene in
the trailer for Suicide Squad where she bends
over to pick up the purse? Yeah, I have But if
I replay that multiple times and so have many
other people that does not there that does not
surprise me But if you gave those same there
is a gif of it You gave those same shorts to
ryan reynolds. You'd pull that off too. That's
that's I Would go gay for ryan reynolds to one
of the very shoe men that I would go gay for
but uh, yeah But anyway, anyway off that. I don't
know. I think uh Harley Quinn is becoming more
of a badass as we go on here. We've got Deadpool
who's becoming more of a family man He's becoming
more of a father. He's kind of whipped by his
wife. She claw who is gorgeous. She's comic book
character I don't know why I'm saying that I
feel creepy, but anyway, I digress but she Harley
Quinn is becoming more of her own woman as opposed
to Deadpool is kind of getting worried about
everything that's going on around him and like
worrying is not really a badass thing to do.
But Harley Quinn just beat off her ex boyfriend
in one of the last issues I read of Harley Quinn.
I'm sorry if that's a spoiler alert, but that's
pretty badass coming underneath the Joker's thumb
and just kicking his ass and being like, don't
bug me no more. I don't want More of you and
she's finally kicked her habit of dating the
Joker. So I I'm going to go actually with Harley
Quinn being the bigger badass. Wow, I'm a little
surprised and not expect that. Chuck, do you
agree with Greg when it comes to who's bigger
badass or do you feel like the Merc with the
mouth is truly the king? I'm probably the worst
person to ask this question, too, because I've
honestly never read either of these. Characters
really in the comics. Well, technically you watch
the Batman animated series where Harley Quinn
was created and yes See the Deadpool movie, which
I feel like is all you need Right. So I did see
the original incarnation of Harley Quinn, but
I feel like and this is the only argument I'm
gonna stick to and it might be completely invalid
because it may have been proven false in the
comics, but I feel like Deadpool is pretty much
never shaken. He's pretty much like always pretty
much nonchalant, no matter how bad it seems or
how much shit he's basically gotten himself into.
Yeah, sorry, Chuck. What you said at the beginning
is true. And Harley Quinn just seems like when
she when push comes to shove and her back is
against the wall and she knows she's beaten,
she's kind of like. To me she just kind of folds
and caves in and seems a little whiny and stuff
like that where Deadpool is always just like
Talking smack right till the bitter end. So I
don't know for that reason that reason alone.
I'm gonna go with Deadpool So one vote Deadpool
wouldn't vote Harley Quinn and I also have read
that issue of Harley Quinn recently Yeah, it
is quite good. It's a great moment between Harley
and Joker and seeing her kind of face down with
Joker was insane, both emotionally potent and
actually probably one of the best comic book
moments of the year so far for me. So definitely
check that out. But the question here though
is not what the best moment is, who is the bigger
badass? And it's interesting here because you
have two characters that are very much... come
from the world of a different character. You
have Slade Wilson, who obviously is a take on
Wade Wilson, very much a spoof of that of Deathstroke.
Then you have, he has similar quality, so he
kind of took an idea and morphed it and became
something original. Then you have Harley Quinn,
who started as the lackey of Joker, that her
persona was morphed by him, and she very much,
she is becoming this thing that's based upon
the Joker, that personality. So these characters
who were molded by separate entities become their
own thing. When you have that, the bigger badass
is the character that is more able to stand on
their own more. And I feel, yeah, Harley Quinn
is there, but it took a very long time to get
there to that point now where I think both have
kind of softened from the original. You know,
Harley Quinn is more of an anti -hero now. She's...
Maybe a little bit more open and not nearly as
crazy where you know, so was Deadpool, but I
guess the ultimately With Deadpool he's got a
quality about him that I think Harley Quinn doesn't
where when it comes to that badassness Like you
see them in an alley who's walking away. I feel
like it's Deadpool. Plus he's got all the cool
weapons I think when it comes down to look and
badassness is very much look Harley Quinn. Yes,
like Harley Quinn's attractive sure, but I think
Deadpool He had he can look really badass with
his weapons and swords and knives katanas and
all that He can he originally when he first debuted
was that just kind of a pseudo ninja badass character.
So It's hard. I think Harley Quinn's a great
character and both are solid, but I think I would
go with Deadpool in this one based upon the look
Based upon the look I'm making out with Harley
Quinn. That would be a different bracket altogether
Alrighty, so we have Deadpool moving on. Next
it becomes two sitcom characters. We're going
to a completely different world. We started with
comics. We're going to the world of sitcoms.
Starting off, we have Bears, Beats, and Battlestar
Galactica with Dwight Schrute. And he is facing
the man with the plan, Ron Swanson. So the question
becomes, who is the bigger badass? Dwight Schrute?
Or once, Ron Swanson. I think I ended last time,
so I'm gonna try to start with this one. I'm
a huge fan of both Parks the Wreck and The Office.
For those that don't know, Dwight Schrute comes
from The Office, Ron Swanson comes from Parks
and Wreck. Probably enjoy The Office more, but
here is who's the bigger badass. Well, Dwight
Schrute, he tries to be a big badass. He's got
the weapons hidden around The Office. He kinda
knows karate. But Ron Swanson to me is a man's
man. He's got the mustache that just oozes sexuality
Of course, he can eat breakfast food at any time
of the day day and night with fuck you McDonald's
With reckless abandon and not feel bad and be
able to get up the next day the dude can make
Has the craftsmanship of a legend? He is Ron
Swanson. He is very much a legend in his own
right so There's so much greatness when it comes
to Ron Swanson. So I'm gonna save it because
I feel like if I need to I can pull it out, but
that sounded wrong. Anyway, so who was a bigger
badass? I love Droid Shroot. He's a funny character,
but he tends to be the butt of too many jokes
where Ron Swanson is more of a leader, more of
a man's man. So I'm going Ron Swanson. Let's
go with Greg. Let's move on over to you for this
one. Who do you think is the bigger badass? Ron
Swanson or Droid Shroot? I definitely agree that
Ron Swanson is a man's man. There are some instances
of Dwight really coming through with his manliness,
like when Jim gets attacked by Pam's ex and Dwight
comes in, swoops in to save the day. I think
his stupidity really kills things for him. That
also takes down his manliness level. Ron Swanson
is definitely a smart guy. He eats billions of
steaks. Cow population is crippled just because
of him. That is very manly, if not terrible for
the rest of the world. He's a big whiskey drinker,
which I love whiskey. He is just a man's man.
He works with his hands. He works with wood,
which I would love to do. And I've read books
about it and it is complicated process. So you
have to be a smart, rough, tough man to use these
tools. So I'm going with Ron Swanson. Chuck,
technically, once Swanson moves on, unless you
can come up with reasoning, you feel Dwight Schrute
should be the bigger badass and should be moving
on and make us think about changing our votes.
Well, I'll be honest. I'm not a huge fan of either
show. Well, not saying I wouldn't be, but I've
never really watched any Parks and Rec. Unfortunately,
it's not that I didn't like it, but I just never
got around to it for whatever reason. But I have
seen a fair amount of Office episodes and When
I think of Dwight Schrute, I just don't think
of badass. I think of someone who's trying desperately
to be a badass, but everything he does most of
the time just ends up being a facepalm moment,
where you're just like, oh my gosh, are you serious?
This guy's actually doing this right now. So
he's just not someone that exudes badass qualities
to me at all. From what little clips I've seen
of Ron Swanson Definitely thinking that he is
more of a badass than Dwight and the only clip
that I saw was the one where he was walking through
Lowe's and the guy goes to help him and He goes
to say something and Ron's like I know more than
you do. He just keeps walking I Feel like all
the things you guys are saying I'm really on
board with all that stuff, so I'll just make
it a clean sweep. Nice. I think you would enjoy
Parks and Rec. The first season isn't that great,
but it starts getting really good. The second
season and our second season, especially when
Adam Driver comes on and he's more of like a
dork He's in the geek culture. So but I think
I am a big Chris Pratt fan Oh, he is amazing
in that show. So he makes it like legitimately
He was only supposed to be in the first season,
but he was so funny They kept him around for
longer. So it's the show. I did not know that
Yeah, he's only supposed to be in the first season,
but they're like, you know what? This guy's really
funny. And yeah, it's great He teams dinosaurs
He does, Burt Macklin. So, greatness, I'm right
there. Alrighty, so we have Ron Swanson and Deadpool
moving on. Not many things in the world where
you see that happening. Next, it becomes, well,
I think, Chucky, a little bit more familiar with,
well, at least definitely one of these characters.
Two characters, well, two characters from very
two different worlds, but it should be a fun
matchup. First, from the world of CW shows, and
the world of Flash, we have Zoom going up against
a character from the video game world. The first,
I think, one of the only video game characters
ever to be in the badass bracket, so it's some
acclaim there. And from the game of Halo, we
have Master Chief. So Chuck, I'll start with
you here since you ended last round. Who do you
think is the bigger badass between Zoom and Master
Chief? Hmm, pretty good matchup. I was a big
Halo fan back in the day when I first got my
Xbox and stuff. And I think you kind of first
introduced me to that. I remember playing Halo
together at various points and that was a lot
of fun. But if I remember correctly, I think...
Master Chief was one of one of many of those
line, but he was the last surviving. Is that
correct? Of the of the Master Chief soldiers
like he was there was other Spartans, but maybe
not to his level if I'm not mistaken I apologize.
It's been a long time since I've done anything
I think I remember something about him being
the last one or whatever like in the first Halo
game, maybe there were other ones in the later
games or something like that, but just knowing
that game and going through and beating it and
even like the second one and everything. He is
a very, very badass character. I mean, he's he's
kind of earning the respect of the Marines as
you go through the gameplay and everything like
that. And, you know, taking down hordes of aliens
by yourself. Of course, it's limited by the ability
of the player, but definitely still a badass
character. Zoom is is one of my. Probably most
recent favorite Villains to come on either TV
or film. I wouldn't say he's like a like a classical
Villain that's you know done extremely well sort
of like Loki or something like that. It's he's
like something different like he's I feel like
he's just put on there for pure raw power and
Terror like in the show of the flash like it's
just this raw display of power and fear and now
he's so intimidating to the flash and really
everyone around them in their world and I guess
when you have when you have a character like
that, that's very effective at conveying those
qualities and everyone in the show is constantly
worried about where he is and how are you gonna
stop them and everything like To me just seems
like the bigger badass in this instance And I'll
second that I'm looking at these two characters
You know, I talked about luck when it came to
Deadpool and Holly Quinn both of these characters
actually look very badass. I mean mark master
chief has a great crazy looking helmet. He's
got the awesome armor zoom though and like the
all black and like the mouth that's like almost
looks like it's like glued on it's insane and
I think it says a lot when you can strike fear
in the hearts of your villain of pretty much
every character and dominate two worlds uh where
Master Chief is like I feel like he's always
coming from behind like he's always just surviving
and uh you know he certainly has his merits the
dude can kick ass for sure but I feel like Zoom,
like he almost feels like unstoppable, where
Master Chief, he's just the guy who won't stop.
He'll keep going, but ultimately, you know, like
a sticky grenade here and there and it'll be
put down. I actually think it was a Meshima or
something like that did a match up between Captain
America and a Master Chief. And it was interesting.
I would, I can maybe put that in the show notes
and they actually had Captain America coming
up on top. And I think that says a lot. Cause
I think Master Chief is cool, but I dunno, like
I feel like Zoom is more. imposing and has more
of that attitude plus master chief's voice not
super not super badass but zoom's voice super
super badass so because of that i'm thinking
i'm going to go with zoom as the bigger badass
compared to master chief uh greg i know you're
not currently caught up with flash but no you
seem a little bit of zoom do you have any opinions
on you who you feel is the bigger badass I am
the least educated about both of these characters.
I really don't have an opinion. So I'm glad you
guys went first. So I'll just go with Zoom because
he's more in the landscape that I enjoy. All
righty. Well, so Zoom is moving on. The question
is, who will Zoom be facing? He will be facing
the winner of this matchup where we have two
competitors from the world of fake sports. First,
we have the Italian stallion. Rocky going up
against none other than Happy Gilmore. We have
two competitors here, both love to fight, both
can fight pretty well, but both in very, two
very different sports. Who is the bigger badass?
All right, Greg, let me start with you when it
comes to this one. Who do you feel is the bigger
badass, Happy Gilmore or Rocky? Boxing, badass.
Golf? Not badass beating up clever Lang and the
Russian badass getting your ass kicked by Bob
Barker Not badass. I am going with the Italian
stallion Rocky Wow, that's straight into the
point. I'm impressed Chuck you agree is is Rocky
the bigger badass compared to happy Gilmore?
You know, I think he is I think he is I will
say one badass quality for Happy Gilmore is that
he basically beat the shit out of an alligator
and dragged him out of the water, which is pretty
damn badass. True, true. I mean, Rocky beat the
Russian, but you know. Happy Gilmore beat up
an alligator, which is pretty impressive. But
as Greg said, he also lost to Bob Barker, who
is a 70 -year -old man. Though we've never saw
Rocky fight Bob Barker. Bob Barker could technically,
he may be able to beat Rocky. We don't know.
He had some good looking moves. Right. Well,
see, you can also make a case that You know rocky
had a lot of trouble beating carl weathers, but
happy gilmore took him out pretty easily I didn't
even make that connection, but that's very true
He you know he played on the heart more, you
know, he made him have a heart attack All he
had to do is show him that alligator head, you
know, and he just fell out the window so but
now um While that is a compelling argument. Um,
I do think that uh The Italian stallion is more
of a badass. Facing people like Clubber Lang
and Apollo Creed and the Russian. I won't mention
any other ones because they weren't as good,
but. Tommy Gunn? No. Yeah, no, sorry. But that
Russian fight, though. Oh, my gosh, like what
an intimidating villain that would be to try
to take down and Rocky just like. Rocky just
never gives up. He just hangs in there and he's
just got so much heart. And, you know, Happy's
got some heart too, you know, trying to win the
cash to save his grandmother's house there. But
I feel like that's where it ends. Like, I feel
like he's doing it for his grandmother. Rocky's
doing it for, like, that's just what he believes
in. That's his values. Like, he's never going
to give up. He's going to... You know, he's never
going to give you up. Never going to let you
down. Right. We get we finally turn around and
desert you. I got Rick rolled on our 101st episode.
So, yeah, going to go with Rocky on this one.
Yeah, I think you guys make a compelling argument,
but I think honestly. I do think Happy Gilmore
might be the biggest, bigger badass. Yeah, golfing
is not the most badass sport, but he's also technically
a hockey player, first and foremost. Not a hockey
player. He was at one point. He was a hockey
player. He at least tried to be. He couldn't
skate. He couldn't skate, but he could fight.
You know, he could fight. He didn't get picked.
Ever. True. He had a hell of a slap shot, though.
And, you know, it's pretty badass when you go
into a cage. the batting cage and just let the
balls hit you in the face. I mean, that's, again,
does not sound at all like what I wanted to make
it sound like. We don't call that bad as where
I come from. You know, the Bob Barker thing.
Yeah, that's, you know, I think he was he was
going easy on him. He didn't want to hurt the
old man. But he also took he also took out Trudy
McGavin. That was a pretty bad ass move. And
he made hockey talk. He made golf interesting,
which is not that's a hard thing to do. You know,
I think happy Gilmore slightly to put your bad
ass, but. uh who knows he also knew when to quit
wherein rocky clearly does not all the time know
when to quit but what are you gonna do because
rocky is moving on because there's no stop in
the italian stallion i mean there you go so now
we're down with round one now we're going on
to the winners of round two so for round two
We had Deadpool beating Harley Quinn now facing
off against the winner between Dwight Schrute
and Ron Swanson I'll guess I will end it last
time. So I'll start with this one So who is the
bigger badass Deadpool or one Ron Swanson man?
You could not get two characters that are different
in any way shape or form Mark with the mouth
against Ron Swanson the man with a few words
Deadpool barely got out of his last round where
you know Ron Swanson won handily over Dwight
Schrute You know, like Ron Swanson, there is
this an aura about him that is unparalleled,
I think, when it comes to characters of his nature.
He is like a kind of guy that you don't see that
much anymore. He, you know, with the most interesting
man in the world no longer retiring, they should
certainly get him to replace the... Yeah, the
guy playing the most interesting man is retiring,
so if you're gonna get someone to replace him,
Nick Offerman or Ron Swanson would be ideal.
I think to Ron Swanson, what's kind of badass
about him is that he has this demeanor, but ultimately
he's still kind of a really good guy, and he
truly does care about people. Also, when he yells,
he is a scary man. I think he might be the only
person in the world that could get... Deadpool
to shut up and be too scared to talk even though,
you know He doesn't know any karate or anything
like that But he just has an imposing will about
him when he wants to have it But he he only chooses
to use it when he feeling it feels like he needs
to so because of that I feel Ron Swanson is a
bigger badass than Deadpool not something I feel
like I would be saying when I woke up today But
Greg, let's move her over to you. Who do you
feel is a bigger badass between Deadpool and
Ron Swanson? I feel like if Ron Swanson got a
body part cut off that he would faint, pass out,
anything like that. Deadpool cuts off body parts
all the time, and that is supremely badass to
me. Deadpool also runs around with multiple weapons,
guns, way more than Ron has. Ron has guns and
everything. But Deadpool has treasure trove of
guns. The only negative with Deadpool is that
he once wore a dress that may be not badass to
some people. But the confidence it takes makes
it kind of badass. But I'm going to go with Deadpool.
I think they're on two different levels here.
So, Chuck, sorry to put you in this spot. It's
a tough spot. But if you had to choose based
upon what you know. Who do you feel is the bigger
badass? You're the winning vote, Deadpool or
Ron Swanson? I really like what you're saying
about Ron Swanson, what I've seen, but I think
I'm going to go Deadpool here just because of
what I've seen in the movie is basically all
I know of the character, I'll be honest. As I
said last round, I really have not read any Deadpool,
but I also have not watched Parks and Rec. But
Deadpool cutting off his own hand to get out
of the handcuffs. And then leaving a middle finger
sticking up who's pretty badass I got to admit
knowing he had no chance against colossus, but
he keeps hitting him and breaking his limbs That
is pretty that is pretty badass. I gotta admit.
Yeah, pretty bad The one -legged man asking contest.
Yeah. Yeah, I feel I don't know Ron too well,
but I feel like if he Broke both of his wrists
and his ankle. He'd probably be Crying like a
little girl, but Yeah, well Yeah, there is an
episode of him with a hernia and uh, he takes
He takes it like a man Maybe more so than he
should but you know, yeah, yeah nice Yeah, but
but does but does ron swanson make fun of? An
old blind lady to her face that he does not know
Giving it to Deadpool then. Yeah. Yeah, I could
see that though I think the least badass part
of Ron Swanson is probably his run. He runs like
an adult penguin And Nick Offerman's laugh is
awful. Yeah But yeah, I'm gonna go watch Parks
and Rec now, but anyways Deadpool moving on Alrighty,
so then we have zoom going up against Rocky Yeah,
that's happening, and it's happening here. Chuck,
this, I think, unlike last matchup, was one that
you were born to determine. Who do you feel is
the bigger badass, Rocky or Zoom? Right. I am
a veritable expert on both of these characters,
so I'm much more in my comfort zone with this
round, this one here. Let's see. Rocky obviously
has been around for a long time. We have you
know several decades of Rock sort of rocky mythology
to look back on Whereas zoom is a very very new
character. We just saw him come out this season
Really only only in the last few months probably
was it last October November or something like
that So really not much is known yet about zoom.
Let me do finally know who he is now, but I won't
say Thank you Well, we kind of, we know, but
we don't know, which is weird. Thank you, flash
writers, because you do that crap all the time,
but it's awesome. So yeah, two, you know, two
very different things here with one being around
much longer. Two very different characters, to
be honest. You have one, one very, very good
guy, one sort of a Captain America -esque, if
you will. type of character and then you have
one very evil guy uh only out for his own purposes
and you know would take out one of his own without
giving a second thought this is really tough
because it's actually two of my more favorite
characters personally to me so boy this is a
tough one um as i mentioned before rocky's faced
a lot of difficult opponents uh Clubber Lang
was extremely intimidating, you know, the skill
of Apollo Creed, basically fighting him to a
standstill twice. And then the Russian, who was
just scary as hell. I feel like I'm leaning towards
Zoom here, just because, like, just because of
the fear that he gives off. Like, when he first
faced the Flash, he just... decimated him, like
he owned him. The Flash could do nothing against
him. Everything he tried, his most powerful weapon,
he tried against him. Zoom basically just like
laughed at and used back against him, which was
freaking amazing. And, you know, basically once
he was defeated, just kind of paraded his body
around town. He took him to the newspaper. He
took him to the police. station took him to star
labs like all these plays just paraded his body
around town like gloating over how he defeated
this character's this flash like hero of this
city how he defeated him so easily and you know
rocky's badass no doubt but he's only badass
in in one specific area of his boxing zoom is
badass in two different universes basically two
different earths so i'm i'm gonna have to go
with zoom on this wow wow little little little
surprise with that so one vote zoom interesting
rocky has a lot of stuff going for him for sure
i mean One thing you gotta give him credit for
though, when you talk about being badass, you're
so much of a badass. You're the most iconic sports
figure of the town that you live in, even though
you're a fictional character. So much so that
there's a statue of you in real life on the stairs.
Like that's impressive. The dude - No longer
on the stairs. Really, they moved him. Yeah.
Wow. Where's he? Well, he's below the stairs
below. Really probably got annoying, huh? He's
below the stairs kind of off to the right and
there's kind of a line people gotten so lazy
They can't go up the stairs now People still
do run up the stairs, but they they have them
down below off to the right Would be surprised
the way America's going and people are just like,
I have to go all the way up there to see it?
Can you bring it down here? Bring it to me. I
have an app for that. It brings the Rocky statue
down for us. Oh, wow. So yeah, I mean, Rocky
only has the one thing. Like you said, he's just
good at boxing, but like the thing is Zoom is...
He's able to do what he's doing because of the
power he has. He has an advantage over everyone.
Where Rocky has no advantages. He's smaller than
everyone. He's less experienced. He doesn't have
the money, the trainers that everyone else does.
He's just got heart. He's just got determination.
If it was humanly possible to cultivate the skills
to be as fast as Zoom, the guy who could do it
is Rocky. And if there's anyone who's been as
influential to the... Sports montage than that
of Rocky. That's that's pretty badass. The dude
can fight Peyton Manning True. You know, the
guy started fighting in 1976 and then was still
fighting in 2006. That's a pretty long career
and still kind of hold up. And his head got bigger,
which I guess kind of makes him a badass. I don't
know. I just think ultimately... It's from all
the swelling. Yeah. He's got a roid head. He
does. A roid head. But no, I think ultimately
though, like I said, I think it's badass because
where Zoom has the advantage... He has a disadvantage,
but he overcomes it, where Zoom is just, you
know, he doesn't really have to overcome everything.
He's just using other people to do his dirty
work, whereas Rocky wouldn't do that. So, I'll
go Rocky, he's a bigger badass. So, Greg, moving
on to you, you're the determining factor when
it comes to this. Who's a bigger badass, Rocky
or Zoom? I'm assuming Zoom is an intelligent
fellow. He is an intelligent fellow. For we would
assume so we don't know for sure but like yeah,
he's at least I would say if you're giving an
IQ test He's beating rocky. Okay. Yeah, rocky
just kind of seems little little dopey And not
that intelligent. And so the intelligence and
the scariness of Zoom kind of makes him more
badass to me. I kind of find Rocky a little bit
more adorable and lovable kind of guy. So just
because of that, I'm going to give it to Zoom.
I did not expect that. So we have Zoom moving
on. So. In the finals or I guess semi -finals
for the finals to be next week The winner of
the first side of the bracket is to be there
running here Where we have two characters from
the world of comic books with deadpool Going
up against zoom. Who is the bigger? Badass greg
re -edited with you last round. We'll start with
you here Who you going with this round zoom or
deadpool? Actually, you went with Deadpool the
last two times, but you voted against him the
first time. Are you voting for him as the winner
here, or do you feel Zoom is a bigger badass?
Zoom still scares me. Deadpool scares me for
many other reasons. So that's kind of a big thing
for me. So that's kind of a tie. Deadpool kind
of has the cooler weapons, and I kind of want
to use your... Rocky defense from last round
for Deadpool this round He kind of never gives
up and he's he's always fighting and that is
has a badness in itself badassness I'm running
out of reasons, so I'm just gonna go with Deadpool
since I really don't know that much about Zoom.
I know a lot about Deadpool. He's a badass character
to me. It was definitely very close between him
and Harley in the first round, but I went with
Deadpool, and I'm gonna follow through with Deadpool
now. All right, Chuck, moving on to you. You
got one vote Deadpool. You gonna go Deadpool
or you going Zoom? Like I mentioned a couple
times, I'm not a big Deadpool person, but the
movie really made me a big fan of him. If the
movie is somewhat comic accurate, which I think
Greg would say that it is, I was a pretty big
fan of Deadpool after that movie. Boy, this is
tough. You could honestly make a case for either
guy, and I'm not going to be disappointed whoever
wins here, to be honest. Deadpool has... Deadpool
has a ton of intimidating factors. Definitely
the cooler weapons, as Greg said. You know, he
seems like he's always he's never afraid, like,
to face what he's facing. You know, he's always
got some quip or some smart remark. He's never
going to give in to that to that fear to give
the other person that satisfaction. Which is
is definitely very badass. He's kind of hanging
there till the end even if he's getting his ass
kicked You know up one side and down the other
so Definitely a badass quality there but as far
as me Zoom just straight -up terrifies me and
I mean, I know it's going more by ability here
but just things he can do like how the hell can
you even stop someone like that. And I know this
isn't entirely about ability, which is what I'm
kind of getting to. I feel like Zoom would be
this ruthless and cold even if he didn't have
these powers. It's just the way he seems, the
extents that he goes to. His whole motivation,
so far from what I'm gathering from the show,
is that he wants to be the only speedster. And
at first he wanted to be the only speedster in
his world. And then he found out there were speedsters
on other worlds. So he wanted to take them down
and destroy them so that he could be not only
the best in his universe, but in any universe,
which is pretty freaking badass if you think
about it. He's willing to go through breaches
to other worlds that he really doesn't know anything
about or what effect they would have on him.
And he's willing to go and After this pursuit
that he's gonna be the best speedster in the
fastest speedster like I mentioned before he'll
take out his own people like just to Accomplish
his means like he'll do anything possible Which
just makes him terrifying like you really don't
want to cross this guy You don't even really
want to look at him the wrong way like it's just
terrifying and the voice the voice by Tony Todd
the Candyman guy basically This is a really really
terrifying voice very dark and gritty I Personally
would be a lot more afraid of zoom than I would
Deadpool at least you could kind of run from
Deadpool You cannot run from zoom, but I don't
know very tough. I can honestly go either way
on this Because you see a lot of the same qualities
in Deadpool were how far he would go to to do
things and he would never give in the things
that he sacrifices to do it. So it's really just
a judgment call and a personal thing. And I'm
going to go zoom here. I don't know. All right.
Zoom. One vote. So I am the deciding factor of
who wins round one. That is a lot of pressure
to go on. So. Yeah, Zoom is, I mean, like, imposing
is the word, first word that comes to me with
Zoom. I never felt like that with, really with
a comic book villain right now. There's great
villains out there for movies and TV shows, but
there's something imposing about him that is
hard to beat. But you got to give it to the fact
that Deadpool, again, when it comes to overcoming
things, is there anything harder to overcome
than beating the fact that Deadpool was created
by Rob Liefeld and is still relevant today? I
mean, that's pretty challenging. The dude, yeah,
he like that is that is insane. He was created
by Rob Liefeld, still exists today. Not many
characters can say that. Not many image characters
can say that, for sure. The thing I think makes
Deadpool a little bit more badass is that Zoom
will do anything, but he doesn't care about anyone.
He doesn't care about anything. Deadpool kinda
does. He really does. He really does. He still
has... He has a daughter that he very much cares
for. His relationship with his wife is a little
bit more troubled, but they still kinda... But
even with that he'll do questionable things still.
Like recently there's currently there's a comic
book with Deadpool and Spider -Man and he's doing
this insane thing to kind of get Spider -Man
to respect him. So even though he is exactly
that, that anti -hero that has hero qualities
but goes about it in a very badass way. I think
if you take Zoom, what will happen with Zoom
is that if his powers are taken away, what you'll
have is a man who's a shell of himself. This
is just projecting and guessing, and I don't
know for sure, but if he doesn't have that power,
would he be imposing? I feel like Deadpool would
still be kind of insane, even without his mutant
ability. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, or healing
ability, I should say. But like I said, again,
both have great badass looks, but ultimately
I think Deadpool would do similar insane things
with As zoom but also have consequences where
zoom has no consequences. He doesn't care about
anything. So just about himself so because of
the fact that Deadpool's has more at stake than
zoom and Still is able because of that. I feel
like he can still be a badass It's harder for
him to be a badass. So because of that Very heavy
heart. I think I'll go Deadpool as the winner
of the first round bracket. I'm sorry Chuck.
Please donate me That's okay. I could go either
way on that to be honest Both have their badass
qualities. Obviously, that's why they got they
came this far. But you know, I agree that I agree
that like You know a true badass usually has
something to fight for like when you think about
people we've had in the brackets in the past
and you know, they're always They're badass,
but there's something that they're fighting for
some kind of cause something that they care about
and zoom is kind of just a selfish prick basically
Yeah, and then the thing so far. Yeah, and something
to overcome and like Deadpool basically is overcome
death Where so because of that he's overcome
more which I feel like he's in love with death.
Well, that's in love with Thanos That's different.
So well, yeah, they both have a thing for death.
So what happens now? So Deadpool wins this round
next week. We will do the second side of the
bracket where Deadpool will face off against
that side those characters give you an indication
of who that's going to include well we're also
going from different areas we are going to go
from the world of star wars to star talk to westerns
to the future to back again to good old italian
mobsters a lot in store for next week So what
we would like to do is hear your thoughts about
this week's bracket. You can give us feedback
in a number of different ways. You can email
us at feedback at geekcastrader .com or talkingincirclesatlive
.com. We're on Facebook and Twitter. Just search
talkingincirclesgcrn. You guys are also on Twitter.
What are your Twitter names? I am at heroicagechuck.
And I am at creepfart. And I am at theeapropolt.
But... That'll be it for this week. We'll be
back next week. Same time, same channel, same
podcast feed, but for now. This has been Chuck.
This has been Greg, or the guy randomly looking
at fit girls on Reddit. Overshare? A little bit.
And this has been Dan, and we've been talking
in circles. We'll see you next week. Big girls
on reddit. Yeah, it's a subreddit. Of course
it is. What isn't a subreddit? Just type in fit
girls. You'll find it. I'm not worried about
finding it. I'm not worried about finding it.
That's not my concern. You're worried about your
wife finding you finding it. I got you. You're
like, it's Greg. We're looking for fit girls.
That's exactly what we're looking for. Oh, if
she hits you, please record that because I love
it when she hits you, no offense. This is taking
a weird turn. I think it's hilarious when your
wife hits you. You'd be a great therapist. What
brings you in today? I think it's hilarious when
she hits you personally. It is. I think it's
funny. Especially when it's me saying something
totally wrong and you get hit for it. True. Daniel.
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