The Pull Bag
Hawkeye Season 1 Review

About this Episode
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I am joined, as always, by Miss Allison Richards.
Hello. Hello. Yes, tonight we're going to be
talking about Hawkeye Season 1 Episode 3. Full
spoilers, you've been warned, so if you haven't
watched it by now, then that's your own damn
fault. However, there's no Stephanie Brown in
here, so we're good. Yes, no, that would be a
crossover episode. Oh boy. I'm perfectly fine
for my fan fiction. That's right. Oh man. Oh
god, now I'm imagining Kate Bishop and Stephanie
Brown. Yep. Oh my gosh. The world is not ready
for that. Yes it is. That would be great. You
know who would really benefit in the end from
that? Cass. Because Cassandra Cain would get
to play with Lucky. Oh, of course. And so she
wins in the end. And as of this recording, as
of this podcast release, I have just started
a few panels into issue three of the Matt Fraction
Hawk I run. I don't know what my... Person was
doing eight years ago that didn't enjoy it, but
I'm very much enjoying it So yes, we will have
more Matt fraction Hawkeye stuff later later
in the podcast Lifespan at a later date, but
episode 3 Holy crap Poor arm -waving Santa Trying
to lure people in to buy a Christmas tree and
then come up the Hawkeyes. All right Uh -huh
For half a second. I thought he called the the
arrow. Sorry Santa and then I realized no he
was apologizing to Santa Yeah, yeah the inflatable
Santa. Mm -hmm. I don't mind that You know that
we have those inflatable Santa things what I
do mind is the car wash versions of those Types
of of things. Yes creep me out. I don't know
why and I don't even drive but every time I see
those things in like movies and stuff. It's like
No, thanks I'm trying to there was a it was a
car dealership one commercial that actually had
the inflatable tube guy as the character, him
and his inflatable tube wife, inflatable tube
child. He was working for a really crappy car
dealership. And he went on to like, I think it
was like an Indeed commercial. Oh, geez. Oh,
my gosh. I loved it. It was so awesome. But yes.
And like I said, episode three, entitled Echoes,
because we have Echo, we have Maya Lopez interrogating
Barton and Bishop about Ronan. Who caught the
daredevil Easter egg in there? Oh my god, the
internet went nuts. And if it's true... And if
it's who I am and the rest of the internet is
hoping it's going to be, that's going to be amazing.
That is supposed to be who it is. No, no, no.
I understand that. I understand that. And for
those that don't know, they're alluding to Fisk.
But what I'm saying is, if they're alluding to
Fisk and it is Fisk, it better be the actor that
I think it should be playing Fisk. Oh, if it's
Fisk, it's going to be the gentleman who played
in the Daredevil TV series. It better be Vincent
D 'Onofrio, because if it isn't, it's going to
make the internet go crazy the other way. I'm
not the spirit that'll let the priest or the
Levite that I am the ill intent who set upon
the traveler on a road that he should not have
been on. Yeah, no, if... It's supposed to be
Dinofrio because Charlie Cox is supposed to be
somewhere in No Way Home. Okay. Yes. Good. Good.
I love that they're bringing that into the MCU
proper because I really dug Daredevil. I liked...
The only reason why I really liked the Defenders,
like the mashup of Luke Cage and Iron Fist and
Daredevil was there's one trailer where they
slow down and they slow down come as you are
for the trailer. And it's just like this bad
ass piece of TV trailer work. And I'm like, this
is going to be so cool. I loved Daredevil and
I loved Luke Cage. I wasn't that big on Iron
Fist, but The characters that they set up in
the cast that they had in those shows. So good.
And as of right now, because of what's going
on in real life with, you know, Karen no longer
being here and everything else. I'm going between
recording podcasts, editing podcasts, and just
laying in bed doing a law and order of criminal
intent marathon. So I'm basically watching Dinofrio
as Goran. Every day I'm in the middle of season
four right now of criminal intent because I just
don't want to do anything else. Yeah But you
know echoes this episode has literally everything
Yeah, I mean honestly It honestly it's felt like
probably the best Now mind you, I haven't watched
Hawkeye. Sorry, I haven't watched Loki. It seems
to be the best television episode from the four
live action TV series. Yeah. I mean, I will agree
sort of. I will say that I think that Winter
Soldier, Falcon and Winter had a few really,
really good ones, but as far as Like what a what
an action show should have and how they're doing
it like the whole pacing of it the whole Like
where the dialogue is versus where the action
is for you know, and everything else. It's just
it is so so good Yeah, but it and it's also not
losing the you know, the human connection To
the story either in that process Right. Because
as much as I love movies like Die Hard and such,
which are great action movies, there are times
where you just kind of forget that John McClane
has got a daughter in this as well. You know
his wife is there, but you forget that whole
family side for good portions of it. Yeah. The
we are constantly come back to Kate's family
and Clint's family and we see the consequences
that the actions have Both on themselves and
on the families. Yeah, I Have watched and listened
to this episode four separate times and four
separate times. There's one scene in this that
made me cry every single time. And it's more
so about what Kate does for Clint than what Clint
is trying to do with the scene. Because in the
scene, his phone vibrates, his phone rings, and
he assumes it's his wife. He assumes it's Laura.
And it's his son, Nate. And at this time in the
episode, Echo had already destroyed his hearing
aid and they hadn't gotten it fixed yet. Hey,
listen, I can't really talk right now. Do you
have time to text? Can you text? Can you text
me? What? Daniel? Daniel? What are you... What
are you doing, buddy? You used everything okay?
Where's mama? There's a... It might be a little
delayed, but it's kind of a bad connection. Oh,
you're bored. You're the early bird. Hey, bud,
I miss you. Why don't you go get some breakfast
and read a book or something until mama wakes
up? Yeah, tonight is movie marathon night, that's
right. I really wish I could be here with you,
buddy. You know how much I love that. I'm not
gonna make it, but I think I'll be back in the
next day or so. Yeah, we'll be in time for our
ugly Christmas sweater party. You ready for that?
Nathaniel? Buddy? Oh boy, I gotta tell you, I
miss you so much. I'm gonna be there, buddy.
Hey, you know I'm gonna be there, like I said,
right? I'm so happy to hear your voice. Dad,
it's gotta go, okay? I love you. I love you more.
Goodbye. Thank you. They're crazy because this
episode did the sound so well. Yeah. So, so he
can barely hear Nate. Kate comes in and we hear
echoes of her. And then she just starts translating
for him and writing what Nate, it's this whole
thing. And it's like, Oh God, rip my art out
for Christ's sake. Yeah. It's such a good scene.
It is. And it. Yeah, I mean, they've they've
gotten to be, you know, starting to work together
well. And, you know, Kate, they obviously, you
know, care about the the physicality of the other,
you know, Clint is trying to save her from the
mafia. Kate's trying to save Clint from the mafia,
you know. Right. It's that thing. But here's
a moment where Kate goes into his personal life
and tries to support him in his personal life.
And remembering that Clint keeps his personal
life off the radar a lot. You know, the fact
that she just, she saw that he needed that moment.
And she knew by being a child herself at that
point, not that long ago, how important that
relationship with a father is. Because we saw
that pre -Chatari. So yeah, that was just really
beautiful all around. Yeah, it was. It was so,
so good. Now, they've said in this show that
she is 22, right? Yes, she is 22. She did not
get blipped. Right, I understand that. But she
doesn't drive? Like, okay, I know why I don't
drive. I have cerebral palsy and it just would
not work. But she's 22 and she doesn't drive.
Even in New York, I know New York is like, oh,
subway, oh, this, oh, that, whatever. Like, seriously?
I didn't have my driver's license until I was
25. Oh, okay. I'm not judging, I'm just asking.
I'm just saying that was a thing that they brought
up. I don't drive. Really? You do everything
else. New York City in itself is a ultra connected
because you have the subway, you have the bus
lines. Between the two of those, it's almost
impossible not to have a street that you can
get off of. And the bus and the train tickets
are the same system. So if you buy a subway ticket,
you usually get one transfer onto a bus. So you
get you where you're going. Then you have Uber
and Lyft and all of those on top of that. And
New York in itself is so congested with cars
of people who who live in the city who travel
into the city for for work from you know and
don't want to take mass transit and You know
that the the plethora of cab driving companies
delivery drivers That if you just look at any
video that ever like shows you the traffic That
is right on Broadway right in Times Square when
it's not closed down for an event Right. Yeah,
it's it's insane to be able to go from From the
Bronx like let's say you're going into the Bronx
to the World Trade Center. So you basically got
the entire length of Manhattan You could do that
trip probably twice by subway before you could
do it once by car. Really? Interesting. Yeah.
I only have been through New York, like, on the
thruway to go up to New Hampshire, and that was
when I was like seven or eight, so I barely remember
it. Yeah. No, it's... They have probably one
of the better... layouts for their, for their
mass transit. It's not the best because it is
so old, but it is also one of the oldest in,
well, it is the oldest in America. So. So yeah,
man, he, he's not going to smash a 72 challenger
and then the challenger gets totaled anyway.
The challenger gets totaled anyway I just love
that is like you could see oh my god. He's a
car guy No, it's like these little hints of Clint's
not Shields not Hawkeye Yeah, like starting show
through again. Yeah, it's him. It's the because
at this point there I Don't know At this point,
they're kind of like going between the fact that
he is either Ronan or Hawkeye. And then the two
of them are sharing the Hawkeye name kind of
thing. And that's fine. I don't have a problem.
I don't care if there's two Hawkeyes. I don't
care if there's 20 Hawkeyes, but Clint obviously
was the first and Kate was obviously the second.
And man, I just, I love the two of them together.
It's so good. They are really starting to. Form
that relationship that we are familiar with of
the witty banter between Hawkeyes Yeah, you know
absolutely And we kind of like that they've introduced
Kate being a little older Meeting Clint then
they would have in the Young Avengers Because
while you know Clint still looking at this looking
at her like, you know, she's a kid, you know,
and you in like the scene where they she was
helping treat her wounds and episode two, you
know, and you could tell that, you know, he's
almost like treating her like he would Lila in
a way. Now he's he's starting to what was it?
He actually complimented her skills. You're not
wrong. He's been cooped up all day. I'm not sure
how long a dog can last. Call yourself one of
the world's greatest archers. Oh my god, you
really think so? I won't lie, I wasn't sure how
he'd do it. I just walked the dog. What do you
think? You know, and such, and you can see that
his quick prejudgments... you know he's starting
to look past that and trying to see her for who
she actually is now yeah absolutely because you
know when they get to the when they do the escape
and they do the whole You know, the, the challenger
is, is trashed and their car isn't trashed, but
it's blocked in and they do the whole arrow under
the bridge and across the train and everything
else. And, you know, she's like, Oh, we got to
let the dog out. The dog's been cooped up for
hours now. And that's where he's like, you know,
you kind of are one of the one of the best archers
blah blah blah and then she goes really and tries
to get more out of him he's like oh yeah we gotta
get going we gotta let that dog out yeah because
you can't hear her yeah i know i know yeah but
not only that but not only can you not hear her
it's starting to show that they're starting to
you know see they they kind of have show a parallel
in how they think yeah Because that's what makes
them a good team is that you know Kate and Clint
in the comics no matter how Crazy things get
and how much they banter and complain about each
other When they are both in in combat mode they
slip into this Rhythm that it's like almost like
they're one person at times Yeah, absolutely
and it's just so good there were more I think
There were more Emotional moments in this episode
than there were I mean there was action, you
know what I mean? But I think the emotional tones
up until the mystery part at the end Up until
that like literally like I said at the beginning
of this. This is this For me, this is going down
as probably the best episode of television in
2021, because that ending, holy crap, they just
like leave it. And it ends on this like low musical
holiday song. So fun. Also, can we just have
a moment of appreciation that some that a show.
has actually used Trans -Siberian Orchestra properly
and not just for a car commercial. Oh yeah. I
just was so happy. I mean, when they actually...
They released the clip for this a while back.
They didn't release everything in that clip.
Right, right, yeah. But it was so... I heard
it at that point and I'm like, oh... Is this
going to be the actual song they use? But I've
been to a TSO concert. I've been a couple times,
four times. And that song, I love the song. I
normally don't like the visuals that they go
with this because they normally have these huge
30 foot projected red nutcrackers marching. But
it gives, it gives you that marching, that, that
chase feel to it, you know? It really does. It's
not necessarily similar to, but some of the Trans
-Siberian stuff, especially from the original
1996 Christmas Eve in Sarajevo album. Uh, really,
really good. And it's just, they did great stuff
with that album and that that music can be used
so many different times. Yeah. A mad Russians
Christmas instrumental is what was used in this.
And what I love is that everything so far that
has popped up in the trailers or the clips or
whatever. Marvel, Disney, whatever you want to
say. They are, they're not just, they're not
just cheaping out. They're bait, you know, they're
not just do it. Oh, we're going to pay for the
rights to this to do it in the trailer. But then
in the actual episode, you're going to hear no,
no, no, no, no. This is full on. Holy crap Christmas.
We need it. I have to say. I kind of hope that
they release a full soundtrack, not just the
if there's instrumental, because I know there's
some instrumental, but like, you know, just even
if it's a Spotify playlist, I'm sure somebody's
already started one that just has all the Christmas
music in order because I'm a Christmas music
junkie. And I want to be able to to have that
like as a playlist. Um, it's like, you know,
I wrote my, my screenwriting thesis. I wrote
a Christmas movie and because it's like a Hallmark
Christmas movie, you know, you have all these
moments where you have instrumentals or you have,
you know, actual, you know, montages with music.
So I actually have a Spotify playlist that goes
along with it where I had put like the music
I would have, I would put into that movie if
it was being shot. And so, no, I would love to
have a playlist created that would go through
the entire Christmas selections of Hawkeye, including
Save the City by Rogers the Musical. Oh, that
musical. I love how the ads just keep showing
up. Yeah, it is it is so so good. Mm -hmm What
else do we need to talk about with this episode?
Um Well still going with the car with that car
chase scene I don't know if you've seen any of
like the behind -the -scene photos of that but
that is primarily shot with a with the At least
the stuff in the very beginning and the stuff
inside the car with Kate and Clint is shot with
this one camera and it's installed in the backseat
and it's a 360 degrees camera like a ball camera
where all they're doing is there's nobody in
there operating it. they have somebody who is
using a wireless controller to actually rotate
the camera in a circle going around and around,
which is why when you look at some of the angles
after it leaves Haley and it goes to the windows
before you get to the backseat, you see some
of that weird bending of the car itself. Is from
the camera lens because it's just doing this
constant rotating in a circle and filming Yeah,
and you know You gotta wonder like how how they
did their timing for that You know how many times
they had to record that just to get the timing
for the Rotation of that camera down Yeah Yeah,
that's that's again a major major accomplishment
and How they've just gone about doing every we're
only three episodes into the six episode series
mm -hmm and so far every one of them has has
Basically kicked ass in multiple ways It's just
so good. And again, that ending, you know, where
they go and infiltrate the, I was going to say
the playhouse, the penthouse. Oh yeah. I cannot
wait because this is going to be the moment where
we're going to figure out, find out if they know
each other because while Jack may try, you know,
Jack would try to pull it off. Clint would, Clint's
too, he's honestly too honest to a fault. He
would just, he would, he would be able to really
not have a reaction if he doesn't know Jack.
Yeah, absolutely. Oh my God. Yeah. It's going
to be so fun and it's going to be so interesting
to see how like I so far I've liked the previously
on Hawkeye things. That's cool. But with the
way they left this episode off, I really think
they need to just start like start it right there.
Yeah, so we can pick up right where it left off.
I don't know if that's what they're gonna do
I'm not in charge of anything on that show or
anything like that, but I would think that's
the way that they would want to play that starting
episode four because I mean literally I feel
like I'm Hanging off, you know a cliff ready
to dive into the Pacific Ocean over here. Yeah.
Well what I have noticed with Disney streaming
and It could just be me and not paying attention
to some of it but if you are watching Like if
you are if you are blitzing through a series
It will the Disney Plus will automatically skip
those and take you right to either the title
card or to the first scene because you have the
option they don't i mean i don't remember let
me look i don't think it's automatic i think
you have the option of clicking skip intro i
don't well yeah they have the option of clicking
skip intro when you start it but i think that
it just automatically doesn't play that. It could
just be me. I could be, you know, Friday and
hallucinating, you know, things. It could just
be something on Netflix. And I'm thinking of
Arrow. I don't know, you know. But, you know,
I don't I don't notice those when I am marathoning
episodes so much. So But no, I agree it would
be it would be good just to see You know just
them start from Clint at sword point at his own
sword point But yeah So so and that will be interesting
because I've been waiting I've been waiting for
Clinton Jack I've been waiting to see where this
relationship is going to be written for MCU.
Yeah It's gonna be so interesting and they have
so like we're we're three episodes in there are
three episodes left Who knows how much they are
gonna pack into? Four five and six. I mean these
first three have felt like Halfway through yeah.
Yeah, we're at the halfway point and it feels
like we've been watching for six hours kind of
thing It's not a bad thing. I'm enjoying it.
I'm very like, move over Die Hard. You ain't
got nothing to do with Christmas now. Hawkeye's
in charge. That's my new mantra. You're getting
dubious looks and possible fingers from Bethany
on my bed right now. Sorry, Bethany. It takes
place at Christmas. It's not a Christmas movie.
Yet you're still getting fingers It's a good
thing, you know, we don't give her any arrows
However, that is that is like the number one
thing on my Christmas list because we were doing
that at school today talking about like what's
your Number one item on your holiday list and
the kids are like talking about wanting Macbooks
and they're wanting, you know iPhones New Jordans
things like this and then they go to me like
well, so what is yours? And I turn around, I'm
like, oh yeah, I've got this, I've been eyeing
this beautiful recurve bow and some carbon fiber,
not carbon fiber, carbon shaft arrows because
I want to redo archery. And they're just all
looking at me with wide eyes. I'm like, what,
you guys know I play with weapons. You've seen
my swords because I took a photo of my sword
collection because they didn't believe I was
a sword fighter. And they're just like, You really
really do this. I'm like, yeah I'm like I'm one
of those writers like I'm a method writer So
I like to be able to hold and use the weapons
that I'm going to give my characters So that
way I know how my body moves and what it does
to my body So, you know if first The reason I
took a broadsword is because broadswords are
like 40 pounds You know and I always get pissed
off when they have like the five foot two like
mouse of a girl able to you know Move with one
of these broadswords and stab people with it,
which is not what a broadsword does So I'm like
no First of all if she tried to wield the sword
and she has never wielded it before it is going
to knock her off of her balance because of the
weight shift. And so yeah, I'm like, you know,
I do that. And so one of the girls later, she
kind of pulls me to the side and she's like,
if you get that bow, could you teach me archery?
And I'm like, if your parents say yes, and I
get the bow, we'll talk about it. That's awesome.
But yeah, so yeah. The kids find that funny that,
you know, I don't just, you know, like Hawkeye,
you know, by Hawkeye, but I also understand the
archery character because I know the basics.
I'm nowhere near an expert. It's a luck if I
get a bullseye. But, you know, I know the motion
and the smoothness of how your body moves and
how meditative and relaxing it can be. That's
really what it's good about it. So, yeah. Yes.
Hawkeye episode three, for me, five out of five
because, man, this was just everything and there's
nothing. If somebody can find something bad in
this episode, They're delusional because this
was really fun. It was really great. It had emotional
moments. It furthered the story in a way that
basically leaves us on the edge of our seat.
And that's the way Marvel Studios, Marvel Cinematic
Universe, that's the way it should be. Yeah.
No, the thing that I would like, you've already
talked about the sound. We talked about the cinematography
with the camera. And we've talked about the action
versus emotion ratio in here. But the other thing
that I really liked about this episode in particular
is we have seen that this show is not shying
away from Clint going deaf. It is one of those...
hard facts that is woven in this, in this series,
which I will admit I like because, you know,
um, I wish they had made him deaf in the first
place when, you know, 10, 11 years ago when MCU
first started. But, um, by him losing his hearing
aid mid battle and seeing how that affected his
fighting. Yeah. Because we've known Hawkeye to
be the sleek, elegant fighter. You know, when
he's Ronin, he is that sleek, elegant samurai
-style fighter. And now he is in a hand -to -hand
brawl or hand -to -arrow brawl. And without his
hearing, you see his balance is thrown. You see
that he can't hear things coming at him, you
know? And so, you know, he's going to be learning
an entire new way of fighting that Maya already
knows. And Maya shows that you can be a superb
fighter and martial artist without a single ounce
of being able to hear. I'm going to be really
interested to see them continue on this path
of showing Clint not letting his disability break
him down, but him actually taking it and making
it his own and still be the hero. Yeah, he has
to adapt to it and that's what we want to see
because as he says to her, when she says, oh,
you rely too much on technology and he's like,
I got a stick and other sticks. She's like, and
the other dude's like, no, the hearing aid. He
goes, oh, I'm hard of hearing. I have some here.
I'm not completely dead. All that stuff that
he says. And it's going to be interesting to
see how he adapts if he does go full deaf. And
it's going to be really, really, really interesting
to see how that works. Right. Because pre, okay.
So from when he lost his hearing in comics after
rescuing Bobby by holding the sonic arrow in
his mouth. through when he died with right before
House of M. I believe his hearing ratio was he
was 80 % death. And then he though he did get
his hearing healed apparently from something
with the Fantastic Four, but Sonic Arrows again
took it back away. But when he from You know,
when he comes back in New Avengers through Fraction's
Hawkeye, when the clown gets him, he's 100%.
I don't know if he, you know, how much of any
hearing he recovered post, you know, post having
the arrow shoved into his ears by the clown.
and fractions run. And so here it seems that
they're keeping him at 80 -20, which is what
most comics are used to for him. But it's going
to be interesting to see. He's still got three
episodes. We haven't seen that piña colada scene
yet with him falling and such. So we don't know
if there's going to be more damage to him or
not. Yeah. There's one other scene we have to
talk about because we can't not talk about Are
we talking about the fact that that that that
Scott and Clint still chat post endgame? Mm -hmm
Because there's a Pym era I barely noticed it
the first time I watched the episode and then
for the in the second run through I was like
really paying attention to all the visuals and
I'm like Hey, wait a second. That's a Pym. Oh,
and then all of a sudden this giant arrow just
comes. I'm like, Oh God, that's so hilarious.
Yeah. Well, and I mean, it does remind me there
be Clint. This isn't the first time like Clint,
even in the MCU has used Pym particles with his
arrows or in a fight because, um, there, you
know, we've had it where, you know, They've um
They've uh, what was it? It was in Civil War
Wasn't in Civil War where they shot? They threw
that they they he shot the pin particles onto
a truck or something and then Basically Scott
was Riding the air. He was running on the arrow.
Yeah, so so Clint shot the arrow and Scott was
running on it and then Scott went big after the
fact kind of thing, if I'm remembering it right.
But yeah, no, I was like, Hey, wait a second,
because I like two seconds later, I was like,
Wait a minute, what the hell hit their car? And
I had to go back and I'm like, Oh, I get it now.
That was great. Yeah. And you could tell it was
like a callback to that because there is the
famous cover and an issue of um avengers where
you know scott is holding on to the edge of hawkeye's
arrow um you know it goes all the way back there
they've done it in um they've done that moment
in i believe it is is it earth's mightiest avengers
the cartoon that they did it or maybe it's either
that no yes it is because he's in the purple
costume he's so it's in earth's mightiest heroes
not in Avengers Assemble. So, so yeah, that is
something that they always keep going back to
for him. And so I really, I really liked seeing
that, that callback back to it. Plus it also
kind of has the way he's holding it and he's
about to fire it. It goes back to that moment
where he's about to shoot the explosive arrow
at Loki. You know, with that, that whole smirk,
like I got this. So yeah, it's very, very cool.
Yeah. And oh my God, Kate with the arrows. I
mean, we knew the explosion one was coming. Because
that was in all the trailers and it paid off
well. But oh my God, with her with the - The
Play -Doh arrow. Well, yeah, it's the putty arrow
with the acid arrows with the - gas arrow, which
by the way, for her saying that Clint doesn't
have, has a branding issue. All that was purple,
except for the acid one, which can't, you know,
which was great. Obviously. Yeah. You know, so
you gotta love all that. But, um, and then the
suction cup, which he comes back to, and that
keeps them from falling off the subway car. You
know, I loved all of that, but what was my Take
out that truck. Aim high. Bring the arrow down
on him. I don't even know what the plan is. This
is just a normal arrow. I have no idea what you're
saying. Just gonna assume you're on board. On
my mark, ready? Shoot up! I mean, you have the
call back to them falling off the building, which
was at the very beginning, because that's Kate's
first memory with them. And then she goes along
for the ride. But I just like how... Oh, and
the net arrow. The net arrow is the one we didn't
get. I didn't mention. Yeah. But, you know, the
fact that there are some arrows that he pulled
away and said, no, these are too dangerous. Definitely.
You don't have to say definitely like that. Yeah.
And that's the other thing I have to say. The
montage, they showed him at one point where he's
like making his arrows and he opens the kit and
there's the start. And in comics, a lot of the
time they play Clint as the farm idiot, you know,
that he doesn't have the education and such.
In MCU, and I think maybe it's because they pull
from the Ultimates originally for his character
creation. They do not shortchange his intelligence
at all. He makes those arrows. Yeah, he makes
those arrows. And again, like, I think it was
the second episode where she says, oh, we're
going to Avengers. Tower Avengers compound and
he's like, Tony sold that, you know, so you can
clearly see the connections for him to the Avengers
and how he's still kind of maybe in contact with
all of them, even though he's kind of on his
own. He's supposed to be retired. He's supposed
to be this, that, and the other thing. And again,
like you've said, So far in our interview episodes
and in the last episode, when we talked about
the first two, you know, this is his, you know,
time to shine. This is his time to see what his
past was and what potentially the future will
hold for him, the family and everything else.
Because I read somewhere online, somebody saying,
That if because the it was already expressly
said that the family is off -limits so if something
ends up happening to Lara Nate and What's the
girls? And Connor Wow, okay Lila and Connor.
Oh, yeah, if something happens to them Then they've
broken their own rule as far as you know Nothing
something happens to them Clint goes crazy and
becomes a you know, you know a murdering Ronan
Taking out the the criminal underworld That's
what happens to him, um, we've seen it but But
yeah, no, I really do like that they Dad that
that they're off But they're that Marvel's not
going to, you know, attack it because he's honestly
the only one of them with a healthy family life.
Ain't that the truth? You know, every other one
of them either has, you know, like homicidal
brother, or everybody's dead, or, you know, um,
what do you call it can't have family, which
we just won't go into that whole red room. Bullshit.
And even that the family Nat does have is kind
of dysfunctional, too. So, you know, well, Sam,
Sam still has a good family, too. But out of
the first, you know, six Avengers, you know,
he's he's the one who, you know, super spy by
day, you know, you know, good old that good old
boy, you know, family man. So so yeah, I I really
like that this and Being that it is, you know
a Disney thing Like I say we still I still believe
he is going to make it home for the holidays
I do want to see if he brings Kate with him.
Yes. That's yeah, that's the ultimate Thing here
because that's the one thing we remember with
Nat. He took that in not became part of his family
Yeah, so if Kate's family, you know Kate's mother
ends up, you know Being more shame than we believe
so far, you know, I don't I see her, you know
becoming part of the family like that did yeah,
I I don't know if I should feel sorry for Eleanor
or if I am suspicious of her because I don't
think I should be suspicious of her because It's
Jack. That's, that's the problem here. I don't
like Eleanor has got her finger so far, you know,
pinky so far up, you know, the whole tea thing,
teacup thing. I think that's her issue. I don't
think her issue is that she's a bad parent. At
least from what I've seen so far in this series.
Spoiler, spoiler, spoiler, spoiler, spoiler,
spoiler. Uh -huh. That's my answer. Also, as
much as I want to say it, as much as I don't
want to believe it's happened, there is still
a part of me that is like, we did not see the
body of her father. That's true. So, you know,
I will not be surprised if... Derek Bishop shows
back up again. Everything that they are doing
with the promotion of this show, they've released
videos of Haley and Jeremy doing various things
related to Hawkeye. Like, oh, these tips here,
these tips there, whatever. I just love the two
of them together as actors. Okay. Jeremy, when
he's on a Marvel tour is just ridiculous. And
I love the man to death. So for the end, do you,
do you hear what he did for the end game tour?
No, I didn't. Okay. So for the end game tour,
for the end game press tour, he was teamed up
with Paul Rudd. which is the other reason why
I love the whole Scott and Klitz still talk with
each other. So because they can't say anything
about what happens in the movies, which makes
for a pretty boring interview on all the late
night talk shows, they came up with their own
movie called 40 year old virgins. And they even
made like a t shirt. They wore t shirts with
each other's faces on it. And they made a movie
poster. And so any time one of the hosts tried
to talk about endgame, they would start talking
about, you know, and in this 40 year old and
30 year old versions, you know, that this and
that would happen, you know, to completely sidetrack
the conversation. And they were just making shit
up as they went along every time. That, you know,
is like, do you remember this movie the same
way I remember this movie at a point? But yeah,
that's what they did. If you go back and look
at all the old press from Endgame, that was what
the two of them did. So Jeremy for, I watched
his interview on Jimmy Fallon for Hawkeye because
he's also doing, he's doing dual press tours
right now. He's not only is he touring for Disney
for Hawkeye, but he's also doing the press tour
for Mare of Kingstown, which just complete side
police criminal type shows, not where like similar
almost to, um, I'm thinking like Oz, you know,
and Breaking Bad, those kinds of shows. You know,
Mare of Kingstown's fucking amazing. Sorry you
bleeped that. No, no, no. We're explicit around
here. We don't worry about bleeps. Season four
dropped on Paramount. No, not season four. Episode
four. It's in season one. Dropped on Paramount
Plus this week. And yeah, I'm... I am here for
that because there's just, I'm sorry. Well, I'm
a Jeremy Renner fan girl, but he's earned it
through his acting, you know, and his singing
also, by the way, because I love his singing.
But he talked about in that interview about how
in Mare of Kingstown, his character lives in
a cabin in the woods, and he has a baby bear
that's sniffing around. And so he originally
has a fear of bears, and now he's kind of like...
Having this Zen moment of watching this baby
bear walking around his cabin But he's also not
stupid and he wants a weapon to be defend himself
if the bear comes charging at him And so they
actually have him going and getting a bow and
arrow And he talks about how he's like guys you
can't do this Because the moment I pick up a
bow and arrow, you know where everyone's mind
is going to go. And they're just all like, no,
no, they're not going to go there. This is going
to be much different. And yeah, the scene is
much different and it does stand on its own.
You could tell the difference in the two characters.
Yeah, you still get that moment where you're
just like, they're giving Jeremy Renner a crossbow,
a bow and arrow. But yeah, so. But no, I highly
recommend after you finish watching Hawkeye,
if you're into the more gritty things and you
are over the age of, you know. If you're an adult,
folks. If you're an adult. Let's just say if
you, again, how I'm friendly. Yeah, no, no, no.
So how I've always labeled the GeekCast Radio
Networks podcast is we are explicit. If you're
not over 20, if you're not over 21, then you
should not be listening to our shows because
every once in a while we will drop, fuck, shit,
damn, hell, whatever, you know? So yeah, same
thing goes for Mayor of Kingstown. It reminds,
from what I've seen of it and from what, because
I had watched his, and I think I had sent this
to you guys, you and Bethany, the Vanity... Yeah,
he's... Look, folks, I don't read a lot of magazines
anymore. I used to read, back when we had to
actually read physical magazines, but all of
these things that have been around for 50, 60
plus years, Vanity Fair, Entertainment Weekly,
whatever you want to call it, Vanity Fair does
these career timelines and they'll take an actor
and they'll do spotlights of their career. I
can't believe how short Renner's career is and
how much he's accomplished in that amount of
time. He only started acting in 96 with senior
national aid from senior trip. And I did not
even like I need that's one of outside of obviously
Christmas vacation. regular vacation, Christmas
vacation, and even though I know most people
don't like this Vegas vacation, I was never a
fan of the other National Lampoon things except
Senior Trip. I saw that one when I was 16 and
I was like, oh, this is kind of cool. I didn't
even know. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, they,
you know, they show, you know, his, they did
the Vanity Fair career timeline of Jeremy Renner.
So I saw parts of Mayor of Kingstown. in that
maybe next month I will go and get a paramount
plus subscription and check it out because at
this point in my life folks if I don't have the
option of doing a yearly subscription where I
only have to pay once I'm probably not doing
it and it's a sad fact that sadly Netflix doesn't
do a yearly subscription and the Hulu plan that
I have doesn't do yearly which is dumb But I
am now on Disney Plus's yearly subscription.
So yeah, you know, it's just it's just so much
easier. Well, I can tell you when when the when
the season finale is. And then that way you can
take the free trial and just mainstream it. Hmm.
Yep. All right. Hawkeye season one, episode three.
Now, they're not actually calling this season
one. They are calling this episode 1 2 3 4 5
6 Yeah, and they're calling it a limited series.
Yes. I am only labeling it season 1 because It's
just easier to do it that way. Yeah, I don't
know what's gonna happen with Hawkeye in the
future I mean how we're only halfway through
this show if it does get another season. I think
that'll be awesome. Well Renner told in Jimmy
Fallon I think it's Jimmy Fallon's interview
He mentioned that he's told Disney that he is
still down to play the character, which, by the
way, is a major turnaround from 2012. He wanted
his character to die. But he mentioned that he
would be down for a West Coast Adventures type
thing. honestly that kind of go though the West
Coast Avengers that that came in recently with
by Kelly you know Kelly's West Coast adventure
run you know that was a pseudo young adventure
Avengers West Coast Avengers team and Clint kind
of just ended up there um and then you know kind
of became Mentor slash member slash keeping the
children in line because Captain America is expecting
him to Yeah, it's it's so good it's so fun Yeah,
and I think I honestly I think that especially
if they go with Clint losing all of his hearing
and with there being no real like His team dynamic
has changed where most of his original team is
gone or dead. It could be a point where it actually
shows him having that leadership skill that he's
had in the comics. We haven't gotten to really
see in the thing. We saw it when he was like,
Loki was controlling him. We saw that he's good
as a team leader. But beyond that, we haven't
gotten a chance to see that side of Hawkeye.
And I would love a West Coast Avengers where
we got to see him being the old grumpy mentor.
That or, you know, come back in 20 years, you
know, when he's 70 and, you know, we do a Old
Man Logan, Old Man Hawkeye series. Oh, boy. Which,
by the way, also, there is a Wastelanders Hawkeye
podcast right now. Yep. I just got to episode
eight finally. And yeah, that's good. That is
so good. Yeah, I'll have to check that out at
some point. Anything else we need to bring up
before I get us out of here, Allison? Lucky is
a good boy and should get all the snuggles. Yeah,
and all the pizza crust. Not just the pizza itself.
You don't just throw the crust. He gets the meat
of that pizza. No, no, no. I know that, but I'm
just saying, you know. And you know, make sure
you look both ways before you cross the Christmas
tree lot. Yeah. What the hell is that one called?
Sorry, Santa? Nope, I think that's what I got.
Alright, I assume you're giving it 5 out of 5.
Oh, I'm gonna give it 5 out of 5, then I'm gonna
hit it with a pin arrow so it becomes like a
10 out of 5. Oh boy, coming up next week we will
be doing more Superhero Saturdays here inside
the pull bag because we will have episode 4 of
the Disney Plus Hawkeye series and I tried to
find... A promo for this? There are none. There
are none that make any damn sense because people
are labeling Hawkeye episode four promos and
it's all cobbled together footage of what we've
either already, I think there was maybe one thing
that I had not seen. But it's not, it's not a
real. It's not a real promo yet. So hopefully
and not only that but they don't do a next on
either. No, they don't And they're they're they're
they're they're secrets Yes It's a secret invasion
folks No, that's epistat movies coming a couple
years down the line. Mm -hmm Where can the people
find you online? If they don't know by now, they're
not looking hard enough. I am at Twitter at Allie
Sky Richards. And I'm sure you can maybe find
my Facebook, but I really don't go there anymore.
Except to like get messages from people. But
yeah, no, Twitter is the main place you'll find
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