Roxy Rumbles, Alone Again, and KJEM

Hi, this is Christy Marx, creator of Gem and

the Holograms, and you're listening to a truly

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me are my misfit girls, Amy. Hello And Nicole.

Hello Aloha In this episode, we'll be giving

you our thoughts on the next three episodes from

Gem and the Holograms season 2 So hey the 13th

episode. I thought there was gonna be of the

podcast. Anyway, I thought there was gonna be

You know, there's one thing, we're 13 episodes

into the podcast, and I thought I was going to

have a lot more negative things to say about

some of these, and I thought my ratings were

going to be, like, really low, and sadly they're

not. Not sadly, but I'm surprised that they're

not. They can't all be trips to China. Yeah.

And not all of them have Rio in it, so, you know,

that vastly improves everything. If they don't

have Rio in it, I don't know if I can point up.

All right, so we're going to kick it off with

Roxy Rumbles after this. Roxy rumbles the air

date was October 20th 1987 after the Misfits

get humiliated on public television due to Roxy's

inability to read Roxy quits the Misfits and

wins the lottery and goes home to Philadelphia

to show off her new lavish lifestyle to her old

friends Meanwhile Jim and the Holograms are in

Philadelphia on tour to promote literacy What

no one knows is Roxy is a literate Roxy with

the help of her high school friends the red aces

decides to throw a bigger party than the holograms

due to a lack of free merchandise uh due to a

lack of free merchandise promised by roxy a riot

ensues and causing extensive damage roxy is quickly

overwhelmed by the situation but gem assists

her the red aces decide to learn to read roxy's

remaining winnings are confiscated by the irs

as she was unable to read a correspondence sent

by them. Bonnie gives Roxy a book that can help

her to learn to read. Roxy, touched by Bonnie's

newfound kindness towards her, accepts the book

just before Eric Raymond and the Misfits come

and convince Roxy to rejoin the Misfits, which

is what Roxy agrees to do. In the end, Roxy secretly

teaches herself to read thanks to the book Bonnie

gave her. The featured songs I'm gonna change

by Roxy, gimme gimme gimme, the Misfits, and

open a book by Jim and the Holograms. Recycled

songs. Uh, gimme gimme gimme, yes, the other...

Open a book is too, because they had the, what

was that, previous episode where they... Oh,

that's right. That's right. From when the girls

went on their ventures. They had that little,

uh... Scavenger hunt. Scavenger hunt, that's

what I was trying to say. Yes, thank you. Yeah,

yeah, yeah. Huh, interesting. Um, let's get this

out of the way right now. Roxy just happens to

find a winning lottery ticket. Really? Seriously?

Yeah. Hey. That... No, no, no. I know it can

happen, but I just... I'm really not sure about

that at all. It just doesn't seem... That's her

good luck. I guess it was a little convenient

that she won a million dollars Especially since

she can't even read But the one thing that the

the little blurb that you read does not say is

that the way that Raymond and Misfits get her

back is that she's under contract and that's

the biggest problem is through this whole episode

is that all of her issues come from the fact

that she can't read any of the contracts that

she signs so Technically speaking she gets in

over her head pretty quick because of that What

I didn't get I mean and this is stuff that of

course will bring out in our hologram and our

misfit moments Is that how I mean this supposedly

happened so quickly? I mean, yeah, we have a

lot of money. You can make the anything happen

pretty quick, but yeah the fact that they were

promising, like, lots of free stuff, and I'm

like, how did they do that overnight? Because

they would have had to be advertising for that.

It's the whole timing. I've said this before,

the timing of Jim and the Holograms, it's kind

of like Transformers in size, you just gotta

go with it. It's gonna happen. They've got a

time machine, somehow they're able to put this

out. Yeah. And there must be an internet, you

know, this is supposedly supposed to be the eighties.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this isn't a perfect episode

by far, but yeah. We find out her real name.

Yeah. Roxanne Pellegrini from Philadelphia. Another

thing I don't get, I've said this before, is

how come the Misfits and Gem... They don't have

money. They're supposed to be the biggest rock

pants on the in the world and they don't have

money I don't get that it's Eric really Well

taking a big cut Technically Roxy has a million

dollars and you know, it doesn't last long. She

burns through it in a couple days Yeah, that

was my other thing I wanted to talk about here

in the plot. Well, let's talk about this million

money goes fast I mean No, no, no, not well,

not even for the most responsible people that's

true, you know I used to watch plenty of Oprah

shows that talked about people that got million

dollars or lots of money and within a windfall

They spend it all really fast and turn broke

again Right, but I'm not even talking about people

who win the lottery. I'm talking about just every

you know You know Going to work getting a paycheck

or you know for me. I'm I'm disabled So I'm on

disability that that money only stretches so

far true. Oh, you know I get paid the first of

every month and by the third of every month I

have close to anywhere between thirty and seventy

dollars left for the month after the rent the

utilities the cable the internet all that's I

mean It's not just you know with with lottery

winners. Yes. I know that's what we're talking

about with Roxy and and again, I wish I just

wish this would have, and I'll say this again

later, I wish they would have structured this

episode a little differently as far as how the

events played out. Yeah. Well, and the other

thing, I was, I thought I'd been under the impression

that when you get into a situation where you

actually win money like that, you don't get all

of it all at once, you get it in chunks. Or well,

you could okay you could actually choose. I actually

had a relative lottery. There you go. Okay, so

real lottery Yeah, she won the lottery. Um, it

wasn't a whole it wasn't like the Powerball's.

I think she won like 50 ,000. Yeah couple thousand.

Yeah, so so so you could actually have it paid

out in one big chunk and The IRS takes more in

taxes if you get the one big chunk Or you can

get paid out like yearly or monthly or even weekly

and you get less taxes taken out. But the thing

is you risk if anything happens to you, the money

stops. You cannot give it to a beneficiary. So

that's why a lot of people take big chunks so

they can have the whole chunk. And the IRS takes

more of that chunk. They take like 52%. If you

win the - if you take the big chunk. They take

more than half. They said about, yeah, in the

show it was like 50%. So she spent half of it

and then the IRS comes in and takes the rest

of it. Poor proxy! We realized the true villain

is the government. Government did it. Yep. Government

did it. Yep. So that's how that works, people.

Any other Amy any thoughts on the plot? I'm really

glad that you know stormer had her Episode now

we get Roxy's and then I woke up this morning

thinking about this going you know what? Why

would it why does it happen the same way? I'm

like you know it because pizzazz just that infuriating

that anyone would leave just because It's on

everybody so eventually you know she pushes everybody

away because she's just So why not Roxy? I cut

I kind of like that. They're they're taking an

issue with illiteracy, too Because I know back

in the day. That's that was one of the big things

that was advertised and a lot of PSA announcements

and stuff was about reading and stuff so and

the thing is is so easy to learn and I I like

the fact that they kind of Hinge off that because

at the very end she's kind of teaching herself

to read and You know, she's of course very very

simplistic but she's doing it so it's like You

know the hardest part I think is just the teasing

she's a tough girl she you know Yeah, see I actually

I went to college with one of my my friends from

high school a classmate from high school And

I realized not until we got to college he couldn't

read he made his way all the way through high

school Without learning to read and so it's just

like yeah, I've kind of put myself in in that

situation back in the day It's just like wow

he knew simple words but Like, he couldn't read

a textbook. And I'm just like, how did you do

this? He's like, I just convinced people to do

my work for me, you know? That's kind of like

what Roxy did. She had other people tell her,

oh, this is what the contract says, or this is

what this says. They were actually high school

dropouts. Yeah. Yeah, so again, this is one of

those episodes that... kind of hits a little

close to home. My kids right now are learning

to read. So I'm like, hey, you know, I'm always

amazed at the stuff that they're able to read,

especially when it's like, really, really complicated.

Like, I didn't think that you could read that.

They did it like, that's awesome. So I like him

lots of validation. Absolutely. I mean, I was

one of those kids that I thought for the longest

time that I was going to be dyslexic. Because

I wasn't I wasn't but I always had a hard time

with reading stuff backwards I don't I know we

are all old here Thanks, Mike. I can't believe

it. Oh, we can't do this anymore, man. I know

we are old. That's it. You broke it. You broke

the podcast. Oh, please. Something way before

this episode should have broken this podcast.

No, no. This is a deal breaker. I mean it. I'm

leaving. Sure you are. Right. I know we are all

old here, so I know we are all old enough to

remember this. Older. Older. More mature. Anybody

remember Mr. D .B. from school? Where the teacher

would do the D and then the B. At my school,

in elementary school, to help us go through reading

and going through learning how to figure out

the letters and everything else, the teacher

had something called Mr. D .B. where it would

be a D and a B next to each other. to try to

figure out the sides of which letter is which

which is you know you know sometimes um usually

now that i'm 35 and a half ish usually now it's

uh i said ish and i said myself it's not like

i said you were 37 but but yeah just ballpark

it come on man i said ish 35 years, give or take,

right? Right, right, right. Now that I'm 35 -ish,

it's just, it's one of those things where I'll

wake up and I'll read something and I'll completely

read the wrong, like my mind will say the wrong

thing in my, like... Just taking things out of

context or not reading something properly like

as soon as I wake up or right before I'm you

know ready to pass out, but But yeah, no Literacy

even even today literacy is a huge issue. It's

not one that people usually put in the forefront

sadly Not as much as they used to it seems yeah

No, I was always very I I was a very slow reader

and so for me watching this episode I could totally

feel the whole frustration of Roxy you know and

she's like ah and you know seeing even sometimes

my kids oh that's that's too big a word I can't

do it and I have to break it down and but yeah

it's just like you know reading is important

I'm glad that they gave that issue to Roxy just

because it's kind of it's a good character moment

for her But it also, especially during the time,

I mean, the kids that are usually watching the

show at this point, they're at that age where

I think they can easily get frustrated with reading,

especially, you know, they're around other peers

that read quicker, faster, better than they are.

They feel the pressure of, well, I'm not that

fast, so I'm gonna hide, you know, the fact that

I'm not that great. That was me because I was

not a very fast reader I better at it now of

course because I've had quite a few years to

practice That and you podcast all kinds of comics.

Oh, yes, you know So but yeah any other thoughts

on the plot ladies Are you ready to rumble? I

need to go find that. Alright, it's time to rumble

with the hologram moments after this. It is time

for the hologram moments for Roxy rumbles. I

am surprised the girl Didn't hit the guy who

said check out that she said check out that car.

He said check out that girl I'm really surprised.

I don't know if it was his sister or his girlfriend.

I'm really surprised she didn't hit him Did we

notice some prowl in this episode prowl and swoop

is in this episode What are you talking about

the voice actors? Michael Bell is the voice of

link. Okay I didn't see any flippin tables I

like seeing where Roxy came from but I just wish

the story would have been structured differently

like I wish she would have had like I don't know

I just I think it's great that Bonnie went to

her and said, hey, why don't you, you know, here

you go. Why don't you learn to read? But I kind

of wish that Roxy would have shown a little bit

more vulnerability towards Jim and had Jim and

Bonnie help her together. Um, somehow. I don't

know. I, I like the story overall, but, um, uh,

there are just way too many issues I have with

this one. I like seeing. Do you think it would

have been better like as a two -parter? no it's

not that I just wish that like there's a point

in the episode where you know they're you know

they're talking of like there's a point where

Roxy's like okay where is everybody and then

she turns a corner and sees the gem set up and

what oh what are they doing here they're here

to ruin me they ruin my homecoming and like Understand

it's hard because we all have problems. I have

problems everybody has problems I understand

it's hard to admit to problems and we'll kind

of get to that in the next episode in this podcast

But it's one of those things where I wish she

would have said, okay Well, you know for me to

understand and from to better my own life. I

need to learn how to do this now instead of at

the end of the episode and then you know, it

just ends on Jetta making fun of her and Then

her going and teaching us. I just wish it Just

wish it was structured differently is all see

I thought it was a really good just because of

the fact that That you get Roxy has always got

this hard exterior and like ever since some Jetta

has kind of come into the show You know Roxy

and Jetta are like always at it. You know, they

just like rivals so to see I mean Roxy's not

gonna change until she has a reason to why should

she? Because everything's working out for her

now the fact that she you know, gets frustrated

with with pizzazz and says, I'm not gonna take

this anymore. I'm out of here. And then the only

reason why it's stuck is because she won that

lottery ticket. I think that she would have come

back just because pizzazz is right. You know,

who who else does she have around her? That's

true. That's true. So like the way that they

set it up, I thought it was all right. I don't

know, the more I look at it, it's like You know,

I just don't think Roxy is the type of person

that's going to change without an exterior motivation.

And she was humiliated on live TV. Yeah. That's

what I'm saying. Like she was humiliated on live

TV. And it's one of those things where because

of that humiliation, and I think honestly, if

they didn't have the whole lottery thing, come

into play with it i think really that's where

it bugs me honestly she got she got humiliated

on live tv if they would have written it to the

point of she knew about the gym in the hall because

they know they know about the the campaign for

um illiteracy yeah you know so it's not like

she doesn't know about it she she should want

to better herself because she got humiliated

on live tv and couldn't read the prompts uh and

Let's face it folks. We can't exactly You can't

exactly have Roxy turn to pizzazz or jetta for

any kind of stormer missy That's what it would

it's really what would have been cool if she

had turned to stormer and said hey look I have

this problem Is there any way you can help me

or can we go get myself some help or whatever

else? Because stormer out of all of them is as

we've seen is the most compassionate. Yeah But

we would have had a vastly different episode

if we had done that I think if the motivation

was to get Roxy to leave the Misfits so she could

go have a moment or a little adventure So we

could find out who she was. She's from Philadelphia.

She's a high school dropout She's got all of

these things You know, she gets to meet, you

know, old friends, the red aces, you know, we

get to know a little bit about her knowing where

she's from. Yes, it's a little cliche, but at

the same time, it's like it builds the story

pretty quick, but she's out on her own. And even

though the Misfits come and bring like her back

in, that doesn't happen till the end. So quite

literally, the Misfits are kind of out of this

episode. from from that point on, and I kind

of was really good to see her beyond her own.

I mean, that we got when Storm was been on her

own, they the character just kind of brings out

different things in the characters that you wouldn't

see normally. And so for me, I was all right

with it just because, again, you get to see her

where her old stomping ground. I don't know how

it is that she came from that situation and turned

into a rock star. Not being able to read how

did how did she cross paths with? With pizzazz

who's like this rich spoiled girl Yeah, that's

the other thing about these origin stories. They

give us insight into the specific character that

they're doing for that episode Yeah, but we I

don't think we ever see why or how it was that

they all came together I don't think we yeah,

yeah, I think you're right. We don't ever really

see how the Actually get together like that.

So and what we do for the holograms just not

the yeah Not the misfits. Yeah, that's what I'm

talking about I mean the only thing I think of

is maybe she was just playing guitar somewhere

and maybe something happened and you know pizzazz

just like hey I'd really like to have a yeah,

that'd be interesting their origins and how they

got together. Yeah Well, I mean maybe if we had

another season maybe they would have done that

Maybe What about you, Nicole? What'd you like

about this one? Everything I assume. Well, of

course. I'm a Roxy fan. I just really liked it

all. I'm sorry. I just liked how she really got

the spotlight. And you can actually see that

even though she has money, she still has problems.

Money doesn't fix everything. I think that's

what we forget in life. Yeah, it helps. Trust

me. But it does help everything. I mean, how

many people do we see there are multimillionaires,

but they're dying of a horrible disease that

I can't hear. They're completely miserable. Yeah,

like, yeah. Who has a bad relationship with his

daughter. Yeah. And so, yeah, I just like the

whole lottery thing that that was kind of weird.

Yeah, I just thought it was. But I just wish

it was stuck with the literacy thing. And I would

like to see, you know, an aftermath of more with

her and bonnie i think that that would have been

like i would like to see more of that but overall

i think i really had fun time she goes into the

one place that she always thought she was outcast

from the house of glamour i really thought that

was awesome like that's just kind of like a fun

place I can't imagine that Pazazz would go out

of her way to share all of her riches with the

girls either, because she's so self -centered.

So it makes sense that even as a rock star, she's

never been in there. But I think, again, the

convenience of the million dollar thing was kind

of a little cheesy. But at the same time, it

also plays this element of it kind of goes to

show that Roxy in a sense is kind of dependent

on the misfits on that fame and fortune that

comes with that. I would think that she'd have

been given, you know, a little bit of money of

her own just because of, you know, what they've

how much records they sell and stuff like that,

that she'd have like a little cut of her own.

But, you know, it also the other thing that I

thought was kind of really crazy, which we'll

get to is the fact that Okay, she buys a car

and she drives from west coast to east coast.

Well, yeah, we will most definitely get that.

I get timing. Timing. Yeah. Well, it's not even

the timing. It's just the whole fact that she's

driving. We'll get to it. Yeah. Hologram moments.

I haven't said mine yet. Sorry. Oh, I thought

you did. I've just been commenting. I asked you.

Hey, so I have mentioned a few things. I like

the fact that she can't read. I like the fact

that she smashes guitars at concerts. Talking

about taking her cut, you know, she does have

a cut. She just loses the cut because she smashes

guitars. I love it. I like the fact that they

also, you know, she's a high school dropout.

I thought the moral of the story was a good one.

Being careful of what you sign and having the

ability to read it. It's kind of important We've

all mentioned the fact that body is giving her

a book the fact that she takes it and doesn't

like Oh, I'm not gonna take this book from this

little girl and I don't need that. No. No, actually

she does take it She's very grateful for that.

I mean as grateful as Roxy can be she's like

give this to me and she keeps it so I thought

that was a really good moment like I don't think

she was ever, cause it kind of shows that I don't

think she was ever really loved or taken care

of when she was younger. Well, if she was a street

kid, yeah. I mean, it's, we don't really know

her, her personal origins, but it kind of plays

off the, I mean, her, her name is Roxanne Pellegrini.

I could just imagine, and she's from Philadelphia.

I could just imagine that she had, you know,

drunk parents or whatever. And she just went

to the streets and that's why she became a part

of a street gang. Yo Adrian! You dirty rat! You

killed my brother! You dirty rat! You know the

whole thing with her and see this is what I was

talking about I wish that this part was structured

better instead of having Jetta make fun of her

and her just brushing it off I wish the door

to her room was closed and Bonnie was there attempting

to help her Know that would be a little hard

to try to sneak her in around, you know the other

Misfits, but that's what I'm saying Well true,

but I mean it's one of those things where Gem

and Jericho let them do pretty much anything

else that's you know, I mean, you know, let's

face it the starlight girls I mean the starlight

girls are not the most supervised children in

the world and coming from someone who has been

in a group home You know in my youth oh so long

ago. I'm so old You know I said I I am so old

You know I know that the that the group homes

have plenty of staff there And I get it, Jerika

is, they're struggling, they're trying to do

their music stuff and everything else, but it's

one of those things where you have to pay attention

to both. Mean hell they let Bonnie run away for

crap sake and then they let three more girls

go try to find her so So Bonnie they didn't just

say okay. Here's the door go run away. We want

you to run away. We don't love you anymore What

I'm saying is they let they Bonnie ran away,

and then they let Chrissy Ashley and whoever

Deidre whoever it was they let them go look for

her So if they're gonna let them do that Don't

see why they wouldn't I remember a little bit

differently I thought that they were like they

followed because they didn't want Bonnie to get

into trouble and all of that I Like I said my

memory fails me. I'm too old. So No, I I know

what you're saying but at the same time like

Jetta I think is a good thing that she kind of

comes back and teaser because Jetta is that type

of character, there's this rivalry going on between

Jetta and and Roxy. So I there Roxy comes off

as the tough girl. The fact that she keeps the

book kind of shows like a kid, a kid reader book

is Yeah, even Well, and it happens before the

Misfits come back. So she's got this brave front,

this brave face when she's around people that

she is tough with. But when she's out on her

own, it seems like to me that tough girl kind

of act kind of gets dropped to a point. So we

see a different side of proxy because of that.

And as soon as the Misfits show up again, she's

like, now beat it, kid. She's like back to the

whole. I'm a tough girl and I can take this and

I'm gonna in in Jenna's face blah blah blah so

the fact that you know she shows her out of the

room at the very end and Jenna gives her a hard

time and she's like she's tough but it doesn't

stop her from the fact that I think she really

learned a lesson in this episode with that you

know hey I had all this money and I could have

done it on my own but because I couldn't read

It got taken away from me and I don't like that

control. So I think that's her motivation for

for For doing what she does and learning to try

to she opens up the book and starts motivating

herself to learn how to read I liked it because

of that so Anything else Nicole anything else?

No, I think everyone knows my thoughts on this

Of course, I'm going to love it. She's awesome.

I just like that she has a soft side. Yeah. I

mean, this is the only time we ever see a soft

side for her. Well, see, this is the episode

that made me love Roxy the most because she I

think that's what I was like when I was younger.

I wanted to be that tough girl, but I always

had that. that soft side to me. So, I kind of

I kind of like this episode because of that.

You know, you have to put on a big front. No,

I'm not going to cry. I'm not going to cry. Then

you go to your room and you cry. Yeah. So, that

really after seeing this episode, I would see

Roxy as that type of kid. It's that type of woman

that would be like, hey, I've got this tough

girl. I will only be that way when no one's Exactly.

And so that's why this is the episode that made

me love Roxy, because she does have a soft side.

You want to see more of it. Yeah. Let's misfit

moment it up, man. Rock on. You stole my line.

It is time for misfit moments. I guess I will

go first since I have the most nitpicks because

I know Nicole probably has nothing All right,

we'll get to them Seriously Cuz that yes, you

are don't lie Seriously pizzazz agenda need to

lay off Roxy. This is the exact same thing they

did when stormer was you know in the stormer

episode and Even then, Roxy was a part of that.

Where is the character growth for Pazazz? Jedda,

we really can't count because Jedda just came

in, but seriously, they just went through this

with Pazazz, with the Stormer episode, with her

brother and all that. It's like they were making

fun of Stormer. It just goes to show that no

matter what you do, Pazazz is never going to

change. She pushes anybody away. Like I said

before it's like this is just her that she says

her itching powder She is itching powder on everybody.

She's a spoiled little brat and she gets her

way all the time and That means that her ire

will be turned on you at any time. That's who

pizazz is Alright, so the paper I believe I have

this right I could have it wrong but the paper

that that we see that has Roxy's fee on it that

she gets minus her part of her cut for breaking

the guitar. I assume it's $24 ,000. That's what

I saw. Yeah. OK. I just want to make sure. It

says $24 ,000 on it, yet the wad of cash that

Eric puts in her hand does not look like $24

,000. It looks like about, you know. Wasn't that

the cut that they took away from hers? The guitar

it was kind of hard to see because it's upside

down Yeah, I'll have to go back and look at it

again and it is the screen cap will be in the

post But if her cut was you know minus the guitar

look look let's say our cut was $45 ,000 and

they took out you know, whatever that is to equal

24 $21 ,000 it the the wad of money he put in

her hand does not look like maybe still yeah

it's it's Raymond you know maybe he knows secretly

that she can't read so he just jipped her I have

a huge issue with the songs if if if we had I

know Roxy is guitar and backup vocals and all

that kind of stuff but and I and people are going

to hate me for referencing this but in live shows

Ryan Peake who is the rhythm guitar and backing

vocals for Chad Kroger of Nickelback in the live

shows he does do some headlining live vocals

with the songs that Nickelback sings and he obviously

has a very different voice than Chad Kroger I

really wish in the past we would have heard Roxy

like an actual unique different singing voice

for Roxy. That was my biggest complaint about

this. Yeah. Yeah. Cause just, you know, no offense

to, I don't have the name off top of my head.

Whoever the singer is for Phyllis, you know,

no offense to them, but it just doesn't sound

as sincere as Roxy wants it to be when she's

singing. Okay. The driving. Well, it's not even

that it well it it's not even her actual driving

it's the fact that she's driving at all because

you Does she have her license? Is she driving

without a license? Because you have to read to

be able to pass a driver's test true Well, just

like her friend from the red aces. He says that

he could read like I want to be able to read

more than the stop sign. So he could read traffic

laws. What I'm saying is we've seen in this episode

that she can't read stuff on paper. In driving

school, you have to be able to read that written

test. You have to be able to see those questions.

So that's what I'm saying. How the hell is she?

She's driving without a license probably. That's

not good. Or she just got a, you know, She's

a street kid. They know how to get like IDs that

are fake IDs. So she's got a fake. Oh God. Oh

yeah. She paid money. I mean, you know, maybe

she paid some of her money that she actually

got when she didn't like break it to guitar to,

to go get, to go do that. She's got a fake ID.

Just put it in the right direction. Just stay

on the right side of the road. That's the brake.

That's the gas. There you go. How hard can it

be? True I'm sure that geek cast radio network

does not endorse like random driving without

a license or illegal documentation or Pirating

things or stealing Pirating stuff is a little

different, but anyway. We found the line. We

found the line where it's drawn. If it benefits

us then it doesn't hurt anybody else. Do you

work for the government? No! No, you do. Yeah,

that's true. I do. And I know that's one way

that they think. Take it away with your misfit

moments, Nicole. I had a hard time believing

that Jim and the Holograms got their PSA in one

take. I don't care how good you are. That's kind

of ticked me off. I'm like, of course, Jim, she's

perfect. She's going to get ready the first day.

Let's do my Roxy thing. Like, yeah, right. What

are they doing here? I didn't like that once

that Roxy won the lottery. She kind of tore the

misfits out as if she didn't ever care to be

in the misfits. It was kind of like, I felt kind

of like it was an inconvenience to her that she

was in this band. I just got that feeling and

we know that's not true. No, she kind of needs

them. And then you talking about how Roxy singing

voices is the same as pizzazz. Her pride was

hers. Yeah, that's true. Hey, I don't need that.

I don't need this anymore. Exactly. And I have

Roxy takes driving lessons from Maja. And my

last one is Jim and the holograms never paid

their cabbie. Not one of them handed money to

him. For shame. I know. Here you are telling

people you need to be honest with with your fellow

doings and you guys don't even pay your cabbie.

What the heck? No, wait a second. Did we not

see them? Because see, here's the thing because

I've taken, we've all taken cabs in our lifetimes.

I pay the cabbies before I even get out of the

cab before I even step out. So we they could

have passed him the money, because he didn't

go after them. He couldn't. He couldn't leave

his cab there. They were stuck in traffic. They

never passed him money. Okay. See? Stealing from

cabbies, stealing from hard workers. This coming

from the woman who approves of Roxy nearly murdering

Kimber in season one. Hey! It's a whole different

situation. No, it's not. No, it's not. People

taking money and people taking lives is a whole

different situation. Kimber was stealing her

man. Sheesh. It's a crime of passion. A crime

of passion? This whole thing about not paying

the cabbie is a whole different situation. It's

a justification. That's robbery. That's robbery.

Yeah, give me a break already I don't people

out there understand it kind of passion is a

whole different situation The jury wouldn't let

her go the jury's not gonna let her go Jim go

on not pay the cabbie. Oh My god, you're just

making up excuses now. No, I'm not sure You can't

handle it You can't handle the truth. What do

you got, Amy? I am like you. I wanted Roxy's

voice in her song to be hers, not Pazazz's, because

it was very clearly Pazazz's. I was fine with

the Gimme Gimme Gimme one, because obviously

that's the song that they've used before. It's

just kind of recycled. It makes sense. But it

was just her. It was just her walking. It was

just her by herself. She was the one. You know,

I'm going to change, you know, so. So that was

one. I found it funny that she'd drive all the

way across the US to Philadelphia, Philadelphia

dressed exact. Exactly as she was when she left,

California. Okay. I don't know if anybody's ever

made that trip before but when I was a little

kid we drove from Arizona all the way to New

York State because I have a lot of family in

New York State It took us three days to get there

and I can guarantee you when you get out of that

car If you don't know you change drivers and

everything and just like ah We do that for like

a good, you know, yeah, if you don't stop. Yes,

it'll take you exactly about Probably about two

days. My parents, they do the long night and

then we like stop over and, you know, rest up

for a little bit because two drivers, we were,

you know, three kids in the back seat. You're

going to want to stop eventually because three

kids in the back seat. enough to make anybody

kind of go crazy I do know because I have done

drives like this I do know from Massachusetts

to here to Kentucky and you know from Kentucky

to Massachusetts if you drive straight through

it's a 20 -hour drive if you don't you know obviously

you stop at rest areas and stuff like that but

if you don't stop to spend the night somewhere

it's a 20 -hour drive so yeah it was definitely

East Coast or West Coast to East Coast so Map

that they showed on there She wouldn't come out

looking as really hot and as cute as she was

especially if there's some guy This is low. Look

at that car and look at that hot chicken side

She would not look so hot after 20 hour drive

I'm just saying no, so yeah I thought it was

kind of odd to me because I guess I just didn't

catch the memo until I actually heard you read

the the blurb for this that you know that they

would had promised a lot of free merchandise

so when I went through it and I was like everything

is free is like I don't think I've ever been

to any event where everything is free like that

so the fact that they were advertising again

like I've mentioned this earlier as we were talking

just yeah I don't understand how well not only

that is that If if that were the case, I have

a hard time believing that everybody that showed

up would get so upset that they would cause a

riot like that either. I mean, because maybe

a few people would get irate, but entitlement

issues much. Yeah, really. Everybody starts like

harassing these people. They're running out of

stuff. Like, if anything, I would just start.

They might just lose people. They would start

leaving. I don't know if they would actually

start being that destructive. I mean, it's like

the zombie fort. Black Friday is a good example.

You see what people do for free stuff there?

Free, that's got its own, you know, it's got

its own. Reputation attached to it and it's it's

had a couple years to kind of wind up, right?

This is just some random Roxy rumble that came

up that popped up overnight That had very little

advertising, you know that you think how is it

that everybody got this special phone call and

said hey It's all free. I I don't know. There

were just a few things. I thought okay I don't

know if I just don't and I don't know if normal

people showing up if they would be that, you

know, irate and that they would be like, I want

my free stuff. It's like, obviously, if things

are starting to sell out really quick, once it's

gone, it's gone. They just turn around and walk

away. Like, OK, that was bad advertising. You

know, go harass the event person and say, hey,

you're out of free stuff. Like, sorry, you know.

Yeah. See, and I'm sure, and when I bring this

up, I'm sure you guys will agree. Um, you've

been to your own state fairs, haven't you? Oh

yeah. The Arizona State Fair, Utah State Fair.

Well, the Kentucky State Fair, they hold, and

I'm sure they do this in your all states as well.

They hold free concerts, but you still have to

pay admission to get into the fairgrounds. And

then obviously you have to pay for your drinks

and you know, whatever else, but at least you

can see the concert for free. Yeah. So yeah,

but that was a little outrageous. uh no pun intended

at all. It just it really really remember she

doesn't know anything about putting on a show

or even contracts. I mean that was the whole

point. You know she got screwed in the end because

she did not know how to fend for herself basically.

Yeah. Okay so I That being said, I thought it

was a great distraction from the gem of the holograms

event. I mean, really, if she were going to steal

thunder, that's how you steal it. She did a good

job doing that. So more of that, that would be

good. That would be really good. Okay. I was

also, um, yeah, I think that's pretty much it.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Um, what are we going to rate

this episode, Amy? Um, sure. I'm gonna rate this

one a four just because I thought it was pretty

solid how I didn't granted there's a few things

that you know driving across the United States

a few little things to nitpick out with like

the voice and stuff but for the most part I really

liked I really liked Roxy's origin story so I

only wish that I you know I think the only other

thing that I want to know how she went from being

you know that street kid To being a rock star.

How did she make meet up with with pizzazz? But

that's not that's not what this story was about.

So yeah, I'm going with four What about you Nicole?

I'm giving it a four as well. Like I said, this

is the episode that made me love Roxy when I

was younger and it's got it's got a good story

to it Mostly it has got a good moral that you

know, and no real Yeah. Four and a half. I should

say. Screw it. Four and a half. Yeah. And Bonnie

was an insufferable. So. But Bonnie was actually

a good part of the show. She was the actual heart

of the show. She's the one that actually reached

out to a person that really doesn't deserve her

help. But and it literally changed her life.

there's another good world story just you never

know what other people are suffering you know

and i i really like that so yeah i'll give her

four and a half there you go no real well roxy

did say she was gonna change so yeah it does

change she changes next time we see her she's

like reading right Nicole's rating is four and

a half. Amy's is four. I'm going to be the downer

of the show and give it three and a half. It

just doesn't, the whole driving thing, the whole

thing with the singing voice, it just, no. So

we're gonna get to the next episode after this.

Up next is, I can't believe we're only on the

second episode today, ladies and gentlemen. That's

because we did the comic thing. No, no, no, no,

it's not because we did that. We did that a year

ago. It's a serious, you know, it was a serious

topic and unfortunately this one is too. Yeah.

It's full of serious topics today. Alone Again,

the air date was October 23rd, 1987. Laura Holloway,

a new Starlight girl with a talent for music,

falls victim to a drug dealer named Bobby Braddock

at her school. Ashley plays an important role

again, this time helping to confront Laura and

eventually help the police catch Bobby. Featured

songs are Alone Again by Laura, Nightmare, Gem

in the Holograms, and Look Inside Yourself, Gem

in the Holograms. I think I forget which episode

it is now because I've already done all the production

on this show, but Whatever it was where I put

the you know, this is your brain. This is your

brain under I just say no to drugs kids I think

I'm putting a if I can find it. I think I'm gonna

put them a gruff the crime dog What do we think

of this plot ladies Amy you can go first I Liked

it the fact I mean, you know last one was about

reading this one's about drugs It makes sense

because back in the 80s. I remember there was

this huge push on both of those. So Yeah, there

you go. I mean at first cuz like I watched this

last night I thought what what directions is

going again? Cuz I couldn't remember this one

specifically because I don't know something about

it just did not impact me really hard but as

as a As an adult, no, I look at it now. I'm like

going, huh? Okay. Um, I, I see, cause I've not

that I've actually been a drug addict, but I

know quite a few of the patterns of things like

that. And to be honest, they put a lot of realistic

reactions in this. And so I look at it, I think

if you're a parent and you're showing this to

your kids, this is a great conversation piece

that to show and to talk about drugs in a safe

way. With your kids, that's one thing I really

took out of this episode that I really, really

liked. I mean, now that I'm looking at it as

a parent, because I have kids, but it just the

fact that they were illustrating so well, just

the stuff that happens, you know, from what I

understand of addiction and whatnot. It just,

yeah, I mean, and it can be used for any kind

of addiction. We're not just talking drugs. We're

talking about lots of different things that could

potentially be pitfall for a child. But just

being able to understand that dynamic, see what's

going on and what you'd be subjected to. I feel

bad for this kid, but I also like the ending

as well because it all works out and they're

able to... Put that puppy in jail. So it's also

a warning to drug dealers as well. They don't

ever actually say what kind of drugs it is that

they're using. I mean, when they have the...

Well, they kind of do. They don't say it outright,

but like the first one was a hallucinogen. Yeah.

The second one was... It looked the same. Well,

yeah, the pills looked the same, yeah. And then

they also, they did... Mention at the end when

laura goes to the the support group one of the

girls says crack so, uh I don't think it was

crack. I don't I don't ever. Oh, I don't think

she was like crack. I think the girl Okay, she

was talking about her addiction when she was

on crack when I was on crack blah blah blah so,

uh But it just kind of goes to show too because

the the situation we have in this it This instance

is the Bobby Braddock. It looks like he's giving

Pills so it could be like medicine stuff that

he's just getting out of medicine cabinet somewhere

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what

it it's it's the it's the fact that oh Well,

it's not illegal drugs kind of I feel to it But

even prescription drugs used in a way that's

wrong can have bad effects, too. So I think They

hit that really really hard prescription drugs,

especially but then of course the fact that you

know The girl said when she was on crack and

I said, okay So we're pretty much hitting drugs

as a whole addiction as a whole in this and I

liked it It's a good conversation piece I would

feel very comfortable sitting down and having

a conversation with my kids about this episode

specifically and talking about it and feeling

like I'm hitting a really big chunk of of What

happens with addiction? In this episode because

they just kind of hit it seems a lot of dynamic

dynamics to it. So I Think it could I think the

pill could be something Equivalent to ecstasy

or something like that or you know something

that you would see him like in a nightclub passing

out to everybody and It's interesting that it's

in a school yard and which A lot of kids were

exposed to drugs that way. I mean, I remember

being in high school and finding out one of the

guys that I went to my art class had done drugs

right there at my high school. And I said, how

did you get ahold of that stuff? I didn't think

that I lived in a small town. And he said, oh,

you find it. It's everywhere. It's like, you

want it. You can get it. I get you some. I was

like, no, I'm not interested. But I said, but

you shouldn't be doing those things either. So

yeah, I know. But I did them. I'm like, So stop,

don't do it anymore. Yeah, it's one of those

things where I really, and I'll talk about this

in the misfit moments actually now that I've

thought about this, I wonder about the people

that are at that school, about the administrators,

because there were not nearly enough teachers

around those kids. yeah in the episode in the

episode there weren't nearly enough teachers

find a way i mean they're either out on the playground

or you know in between classes or even right

in the middle of a class like i said i found

out like my friend in one of my art classes was

doing drugs So I mean that's just conversation.

It's not it was an art class So like the teacher

wasn't always like right there in front of us

and but it's just chattering while we're talking

and doing our work You know, so things can happen

Kids will find a way if you get 20 kids in a

classroom with one adult Seriously, a lot of

stuff is gonna go down there. You don't know

Thoughts on the plot Nicole? Oh, this is one

that hits really close to home. We're currently

Yeah, I have a couple of love really close loved

ones that I've been dealing with addiction and

rehab. And the situation that Laura's in, it's

very common with the people that I, my loved

ones that I'm dealing with right now. It's just

like they, they were having, you know, a bout

of depression and fortunately someone came up

to support them, but in a more sinister way.

you know, they found that they were weak and

they preyed on them. And unfortunately, just

a few moments of those, just a few moments of

that brings a lifetime of recovery. And, you

know, and it's a very sad road. So this episode

was just like, dang. I put in my notes, it's

like a full length PSA. And so, but it's also,

I mean even today you could show this episode

and it's still relevant. Yeah, it is and it's

very and I Really? I it's one of those episodes.

You're like, wow, this is for a kids show But

it's really deep but it's needed because you

know, you're thinking oh kids that young aren't

gonna be influenced by by my drugs at that age

and you're just like it's it's everywhere people

yeah this is something that that we haven't brought

out yet but laura holloway she's lost her parents

she's she's been orphaned and she has a very

low self self um image of herself so she's like

you know she's she's vulnerable she feels bad

about she's like she's got this really great

singing voice i really liked the song that she's

saying oh god i love that song yeah it was it

was a she just sang it with a guitar and they

did it was completely acoustic so just to have

that and it was a very pretty song but like she

can't accept like the gem of the holograms they

asked her to you know be a part of their concert

in the in a week and she's like oh i'm not that

great it wasn't that great and she's like you

know putting herself down without like actually

listening to this rock group that's saying, no,

no, we really want you to be a part of our show.

Cause that wasn't really good. You know? So it's

like, well, she was putting herself down even

before she took the drugs. I mean, she has self

-esteem issues. Yeah. Her, her image of herself

is very low. And, and I think that, that, that

speaks to a lot of kids. This is one of the things

that I kind of really took away at the very beginning

of this is the fact that you have a kid that's

expressing. emotions of how they feel, their

self -image is very low of themselves. I can

understand. It does not go into how it is that

her parents are gone now. I don't know if they

didn't give her enough self -esteem or something

like that, because I don't think losing your

parents would suddenly make you feel that way

about yourself. But she's a 14 -year -old girl

that has some of those issues. And that does

make, I think, anybody at that age really vulnerable

to a predator like that who would come in there

and say, oh, I can make you feel better about

yourself. And, you know, it's this easy thing.

And technically. You can fix that without drugs,

but you know, hap, you know, taking a little

pill that would make you feel better. You think,

oh, okay, I don't think it's going to work, but

I'll try it. You're like, and that's basically

what she falls into is that she does that for

that reason. And I'm like, girl, you didn't have

to do that. But it just, I just really liked

that though. The language of, you know, she's,

she's vulnerable already as it is. She's. being

taken out of of everything that she knows she's

already feeling low about herself she's ripe

for somebody to come along and and and take advantage

and they do so absolutely any other thoughts

on the plot oh it's good all right let's get

to the hologram moments after this Alright, it

is time for the hologram moments. I do find it

interesting how every single show we have ever

watched, whether it's cartoon or live action

or whatever else, they always find interesting

ways to bring up the drug use episode. Like,

the drug use episode is by far the least cliched

thing in media history because there are so many

different ways to approach it. Very true. You

know, we can talk about reused movie plot lines

or remakes or whatever else, and usually no matter

what it is, whether it's Chairman of the Holograms,

whether it's a comic book or whatever, everything's,

you know, Beverly Hills 90210 for crap's sake,

you know, everything has a different way of approaching

it. And I really do like how they approach this

because, first of all, This is the first new

starlight girl since we saw Deidre I believe

back in season one unless I mean unless unless

Deidre was already there and They just brought

her to the forefront in those stories. But like

this is the first like new Coming into starlight

house as far as a new girl goes So I like that.

I like how they dealt with the problem. I Calls

gonna hate me for this, but I like how there's

no misfits in this episode Yeah, pretty much

it's another starlight girl kind of focus and

Jerrica is also involved in it as well. I think

that she plays a pretty big role in it because

there is a part when there were Laura finally

is focusing and listening to what Jerrica is

saying. And I like the fact that they mimic a

parent, basically a parent figure that doesn't

react badly. Or or over over the top, you know,

she's just it's a good example of kind of how

a parent or it just some sort of parental figure

rather than get too Upset or not upset enough.

I think that she's just she's just handling it

You know, she's being realistic about it Nothing

that that Laura says shocks her and I think that's

that's really good to kind of she it's not I

wouldn't say completely non -emotional, but it

is very realistic way, I think, of approaching

it. Because you don't want to push a kid away

by how you react to what they're saying. And

if you overreact and it's like, oh, great, it's

too much reaction, they might get scared off.

But I think it seemed to me to be an appropriate

reaction to how it is. So like I said. As an

adult looking at this, I took a lot out of it

more than I think I ever did as a kid taking

out of it. I just thought, okay, so just say

no to drugs and you have no problem with that

because that seemed like it was a lot of stuff

that she was completely out of control and I

don't want to be like that ball. There you go.

But, you know, anybody can, I mean, then this

is anybody is susceptible because it doesn't

necessarily take a drug dealer to get you on

drugs. I mean, There are a lot of exposure to

it that can cause different things. So. Absolutely.

Any other hologram moments, Amy? Let's say it's

here. Let me look at my notes real quick. I already

mentioned about, okay. Oh, I did put a list in

here of what I thought was I like the symptoms

of how they kind of illustrated the symptoms

of the drug use the pickup lines from the drug.

Kid the, the paranoia that she ends up experiencing

the sleeplessness stealing. All of it just kind

of like, just the things that happened, the different

dynamics. I really just really liked how they

just made it work. Again, I'm glad that the the

song that they used in here was Laura's voice

and I'm kind of sad because it's like hey we

get a Character that's just introduced gets to

have her own song and I kind of sad that they

didn't do the same thing to Roxy in the last

episode because I was like, oh I also thought

it was kind of funny that when they finally get

down to it the the kid that the Bobby wants 30

bucks 30 bucks for the drugs next round and I

was like that's a lot for a 14 year old because

hey if you're not getting a you know Could have

been a whole lot more but Yeah, they got to find

out how to do it how to get it Yeah, and they

and they will but like I'm thinking how you know

That's the thing is that once they start charging

like hey, it could be 30 bucks this time. It

could be 50 bucks next time. It could be a hundred

after that, you know, they could change it any

way that they want it. So I love the thing that

they do in the end as well. So get Bobby off

that street, man. Yeah. Absolutely. What about

you, Nicole? Hologram moments. Uh, hologram moments.

Let's see. I love the, the alone again. I really

did like that song. I could actually listen to

that over and over again. It's very pretty. I

really enjoyed how Jerika showed true honest

concern. She didn't freak out. She realized that

this girl has a problem and she is willing to

give her the help that she needs. And I like

the situation where they had like the addiction

meeting because Like I said sitting in addiction

meetings with with some of my loved ones. That's

very similar There's people that are thinking

I got this under control I don't need help and

then it just takes the other people have been

going through it saying Listen up. You've got

a problem. We've been where you're at. You've

got to admit it. You've got to get help and So

I really liked how they made that like a true

to life situation Okay, this one's just mostly

for me, this next hologram. But at the arcade,

the arcade was called Tilt. I played an arcade

called Tilt. Yay! That's awesome! I thought it

was interesting that it was a neutral location.

They didn't do that on school grounds. Yeah.

I was like all of the drug passing it had been

on school grounds. So the fact that it happened

to off school grounds, I thought, Hmm, that's

interesting. Yeah. So I really did. I really

didn't enjoy that part. I mean, this South high

school is looks to me like it's a public high

school. It's not one of those private schools

at the same time. I don't know if it had happened

on school grounds. If the school would try to,

and let's face it, Bobby's not, you know, from

a rich high society family, but at the same time,

to protect the school's reputation, I'm not sure

if they would want to sweep it under the rug,

anything like that. So that's, you know, I'm

kind of glad it didn't happen on school grounds.

And he's a drug dealer. It doesn't matter for

him. It doesn't matter where he deals the drugs.

He can deal them anywhere. He can, he can deal

them anywhere. I just remember when I was in

high school, they did drug checks. And it wasn't

against, it actually was, it was actually, it

didn't hurt the school in any way because it

was like, it was, you know, that's just how it

went. You know, they made it perfectly clear

that if they had any reason to doubt that you

had drugs, they would have the police come and

open up your locker and do an investigation and

everything. And there were a couple of times

where drug, where you saw Police officers that

came to the school for that reason and I think

you know because the rumor sometimes Maybe sometimes

that's a bigger deterrent than anything else

because kids will talk You know, they'll talk

amongst themselves and whatnot was a hey, did

you see those cops blah blah blah? You know kit,

you know and and that that in a sense and that

was when I was in high school Which was quite

a few it was a few years after I'd actually watched

this but you know Liability sometimes I think

sometimes they'll take any of those those those

anonymous, you know, tattlings or whatever as

serious just because it also puts faith in the

community as well, knowing that, hey, the high

school is taking things seriously and they're

searching if they have, if they feel that they

need to search, they will. Absolutely, and some

high schools nowadays have metal detectors before

you even go into them. A lot has changed since

we were little kids watching this show. Yeah,

a lot has changed since the 80s. 30 years ago,

holy crap. For me, you know... I saw all kinds

of different stuff with all kinds of different

schools because when I was a freshman in high

school, I never stuck to one school because I

was a ward of the state and I was always, you

know, I was in and out of foster homes. I was

in and out of group homes. So even though I didn't

repeat the freshman year, I would always say

every new place, oh, well, I'm still in my freshman

year or whatever. I'm in my sophomore year or

whatever it was like. Every new school, it's

like, hey, it's a new freshman year because I'm

at a different school. but yeah I mean this episode

really like this is you know anyone that says

that they need to you know anyone that says that

we shouldn't show children stuff from the 80s

this is a learning episode like you already said

Amy anybody should show their kids this episode

to teach them the right and wrong way to do or

not, not to do what is done here. Well, even

if it's just for two reasons. One, you can even

show your kids just so they can get an idea of

what, because how they illustrate the addiction

that Laura goes through, but even so that you

can see how some people are when they are. on

drugs because that's another thing that happened

when i was in high school i was taking a um talk

about drugs my dad's a pharmacist so when it

comes to drugs i know drugs wait a second here

we've got a pharmacist and a drug dealer on this

I'm not an official drug dealer. No, not you,

her. No, no, I was sort of talking about we joke,

but Nicole really isn't a drug dealer. No, because

my parents, they, you know, my dad talked to

me about like, you know, the effects of drugs

and how people will react and what some of the

reactions are. I actually took a P .E. class.

I think it was either my sophomore freshman or

sophomore year where I knew these girls the way

that they act like I thought they were on drugs

and I I turned them in not because I was like

trying to be mean to them but like because I

was seriously concerned for them because I thought

okay these they were lower classmen I must have

been a junior actually now that I think about

it because I was a little bit older I don't know

long story short they were acting like they were

high in a way, and they were laughing about the

dumbest things and it was completely not what

they usually act like. And I knew one of the

girls came from, she had some issues and whatnot,

because I had had a, I think I had had a moment

in a locker room where she was upset about something.

And so to see her, Acting the way that she was

I was genuinely concerned and I went to my school

counselor I said, I think she's on drugs because

she was acting high and she and I described some

of the other symptoms and whatnot and I'm like

I said I don't want to get her in trouble but

I also don't think that she needs that right

now with the other issues that are going on in

her life and I'm like Just I don't want to see

her hurt because if she overdoses You know that

would be terrible and I would I would feel terrible

if I found out because I said nothing That you

know something happens to her So I don't know

if anything ever came out of it because I don't

remember it's like she didn't like leave school

suddenly or anything like that and They didn't

have like, you know cops come and like check

her locker or anything, but I felt better knowing

that i had said something and you know it's just

one of those things that you just if you know

anybody or you having issues yourself just don't

don't don't mess with it because there are bad

outcomes when it comes to drugs and it can affect

your life forever or it can be really quick and

out of your life really really fast so all right

let's get to the misfit moments after this I'm

for the Misfit moments for all alone again. Really,

honestly, the only thing I wrote down about this

is kind of what I said at the beginning with

the plot. I find myself wondering where the hell

and what the hell are Eric and the Misfits doing

this entire episode? Like, not that I think we

needed to see them in it, but I just when they

don't show up because they are the nemesis of

Gemini holograms and we kind of expect them to

show up at this point. you know i i'm just wondering

what in the heck are they up to or just have

one of the misfit girls you know randomly walking

around in the background you know i i am a big

misfit fan we all know that but i could honestly

i didn't miss him in this episode you know i

don't i don't miss them don't know how they would

have been able to put them in there because i

i don't want them to actually tied to the whole

drugs thing yeah no because like that i i like

that being an outside problem that's something

you know there are and we'll talk about this

with the final episode when we get to there after

this but there you know there are certain things

erik and the misfits they they do have a line

that they will not cross you know i mean you

know so it that that is good even even though

you know pizzazz and jetta and roxy are all off

their rockers quite literally um it it You know,

at least they do have a line and what what they

don't actively go to set up to to hurt Jim and

the holograms At least they they know where a

line is. So yeah any Misfit moments Amy the only

Misfit moment that I have is the fact that when

Jericho goes up on the on the the the house roof

to Keep Laura from falling off. I don't know

if she really would have been able to catch Laura

like she did I mean, yeah, she's 14 years old

but I have a 11 year old kid here that I'm like

Adrenaline though adrenaline just wonders True,

but I would have I would still be hard -pressed

to grab him and pull him away from a ledge I

mean I would I would do it but the way that she

catches her it just seems like she grabs her

from bat from behind and pulls her in and I'm

like Certainly adrenaline can do a lot, but I

just like oh, I just I wasn't quite sure this

should be able to pull her off like that I was

like, oh unless she's like a really small, you

know little 14 year old There would be at least

some struggle there. She would have be like really

Pulling to pull her out, but I don't know that

was just my take out of it That's the only thing

that I could find with this though that I was

like, ah, that's most of it moment everything

else I mean it was it was such a solid episode

that I was just like really impressed with it

so before Nicole goes you mentioned about the

legend and them on there and all as I can think

of is a certain film that came out a few months

before this episode air March of 1987 Lethal

weapon came out and all I can think of, all I

can think of is Riggs and the guy in the ledge.

You want to go nuts? Let's get nuts. You want

to jump? Let's jump. Come on. Come on. No, man.

You're crazy. Like seriously, that's all I can

think about is, is that scene from Lethal Weapon.

And the fact that afterwards they rest the guy

is like, you're, he's crazy, man. He's crazy.

Yeah, I need to go back and watch that. Riggs

was a special kind of crazy. Everybody's favorite

crazy cock. Riggs. What do you got for misfit

moments, Nicole? I've only got two. The only

thing that drove me nuts is that Laura's height

changes through the whole thing. She's like,

how tall is she? She looks like a midge at one

point and then at one point she's epic. Same

height as Jerrica almost and that kind of threw

me off a little bit Mike because I couldn't figure

out how old is she supposed to be Well, she's

probably in junior high, but then she I don't

know. She's got mystical powers that changes

her side And then and then with in the One song.

Oh, I forgot what song it was But they're there.

Yeah that creepy son So wrong that hot pink sun

with the eyeball She was on drugs that was that

was I felt like I was on drugs watching that

That was a little freaky yeah, so those are my

two minutes like Amy said it's a pretty solid

episode All right, Amy, what are you gonna rate

this one? I'm gonna give it a four point five

I mean the other reason why I haven't given it

a five is cuz like, you know, I Nothing is perfect.

So it's it's again I it falls in line with the

same one before that I that I talked about that

I really really liked that The Roger Slifer one

that was about the the family Family issues and

stuff like that Father's Day. Yeah It deals with

a, it deals with a really serious subject without

like, you know, giving it a, a, a play a safe

environment for a, for a young audience member

to kind of see a little bit about how this can

be dangerous. And then also a great talking point

with. Said for parents to talk with their kids

about drugs. Like I said, it's relevant. It's

Today it's even relevant for today even even

being an 80 show I would be absolutely Appropriate

to show it to anybody. I think it'd be relevant

even today. So absolutely Nicole I'm giving it

a five Like I said, I was stretching it with

my team. Again, no real. There's barely little

holograms and no mystery. No, like you said,

it's a pretty solid episode. It's one of those

episodes where you actually have to take a breather

after watching. You're just like, yeah. That

was that was deep, you know. Yeah. And it's like

a little the smoke out of your head. Yeah. Yeah.

Exactly. I see what you did, though. Yeah. Like

I said, the only part really thinking that I

really was concerned about was the height change.

Besides that, it was a good solid issue. So what

about you? No Rio no misfits also I can think

of is Rio and Roxy are off rumbling somewhere

I'm gonna give it a four I like it. I think it's

interesting my little comment about the whole

tea like even in you know junior high There were

plenty of teachers, hall monitors, even in the

80s. Like I remember certain things, you know,

my parents and whatever else. So there were people

in schools. I did, you know, there are teachers

because, you know, this is supposed to be a high

school and it's not just one teacher for, you

know, we can't all be Ms. Bliss or Mr. Belding

for crap sake. I mean, you can't just have one

teacher for every single subject. So I really

do think that there would be at least three or

four or five different teachers walking the halls

as they're going through this. And I think Bobby

would have been caught at school if that had

happened in this episode. So I'm going to give

it a four. All right. I disagree. I don't remember

there being that much teacher supervision when

I was in school, but you know, you neither, but

I was in a small town. I was in a small town.

My parents found out about it before I got home.

So it's like great. I don't know. Cause like,

I guess it just depends on how big the school

is. Cause you know, having been the object of

a lot of people's ire. high school and people

getting away with stuff all the time I I just

I can see how slipping through the cracks would

be really easy and you know who knows maybe he

has gophers too that are like you know helping

him out for a cut sorry all's all's I can think

of is the goofy gophers now all right let's get

to K Jim after this Alright, it is time to go

to K -GEM. The air date was October 29th, 1987.

A group of college students, including a high

school friend of Kimber's, asked GEM to help

a struggling radio station that they intern at.

The larger rival station wants to buy out and

get rid of. The featured songs are mostly reuses.

When it's only me and the music, Listen Up by

the Misfits is new, K -GEM by Jim and the Holograms

is new. I like this one. In the background as

well other songs that they've yeah Yeah, yeah,

cuz it's a radio station. Yeah, I Really do like

this one. I you know, I I've always ever since

I was a kid. I've always wanted to be in radio.

Yes. I know There's no money in it, but I don't

care. It's just the whole prestige of doing what

you love kind of right exactly Obviously, I am

doing it now with podcasting. It's just a different

form. But it's one of those things. It doesn't

really surprise me, but it's interesting to see

how they shine a light on how many shady dealings

radio station management will do to get a one

-up on the market. I really dug this episode.

I think it might be one of the best episodes

of season two. That's a pretty good episode.

It's pretty happy with it, too. It was kind of

sad because, you know, at the very beginning,

dance is taking over Aja's exercising role. And

I was like, what? Aja, you need to get in there

before this woman takes over. She's in the morning

of her boyfriend who couldn't keep up after five

miles. No. Yeah. Wow. Any other thoughts on the

plot, Amy? No, I thought it was really good.

I you know, it I it's one of those things where

it's like, oh I already I I know that they already

had like a rate, you know, they have a music

station whatever that the Starlight music but

to have an actual radio station and I like the

fact that when they actually do get around to

Taking on the radio station. It's more of a partnership

thing rather than a takeover. They they're fully

Like, because they first turn them down, and

then Jerika slash Jim changes her mind. And it's

basically because, you know, she's not necessarily

wanting to take on the role, but giving them

a chance to get themselves out on their own.

And I thought that that was really responsible.

And I thought, okay, I really like this episode

because of that. It was just like, Hey, no, we're

not going to do that. Sorry. And then they turn

around and change your mind because of reasons.

And I just, I liked that it had a good feel to

it because it was like, Hey, let's give back.

We're, we're, we're not going to take it away

from you, but we're definitely not going to let

it go under either. And I swear. when I watched

this this morning and I thought okay is the the

I thought it was Eric that was the anonymous

dude because I thought oh he's he is evolving

Eric is now an anonymous liar Eric would not

be that coy because he would just go in and say

up here's the contract you got a sign around

you know I mean In any other episode it would

have been Eric, or Zipper, or one of his - Some

other funky, yeah. The only one it couldn't be

is TechRat. I'm really surprised that Eric didn't

try to - I'm really surprised, honestly, that

TechRat was not behind - Oh yeah, when they were

- That's true. The technical aspects - That was

Mr. Lasseter. Mr. Lasseter's flunky that was

that. Man, we need more TechRat. Maybe he got

the device from TechRat. There you go. Yeah.

Nicole, thoughts on the plot? This was one of

those fun episodes. It was like the breather

after what we just watched you think yeah Like

you I've always loved doing radio. I guess that's

why I like doing podcasting, you know Yeah, it

was just one of those Bringing back the times

when radio was the big thing where you you'd

sit and wait for your favorite song to play so

you can hit record Hopefully you get the song

It was a really just a fun episode. Good little

jaunt. Except for there's Rio. Oh stop. Oh stop.

Alright, we're gonna get to the hologram moments

after this. It is time for hologram moments for

K -Jim. Rio, the pilot. Oh, noes. I can just

hear Nicole salivating with her hatred. Did he

become a private pilot? OK. That's going to be

my misfit moment. I'm not going to get started

yet. OK. All right. We'll save it. Hey listen,

the redhead guy is voiced by Rob Paulson and

also he voices another of the other secondary

characters. I have seen and heard Rob's voice

so many times over the last 20 -30 years that

I know when Rob Paulson is in a cartoon. He's

the guy that tells the shenanigans guy to get

out and he slams the door on him. So I noticed

that. It was interesting where the signal was

coming from. I thought that was a little ingenious

that the, and I like how they brought the FCC

in to try to track it. I thought that was awesome.

Um, and again, we see Eric being the good guy.

He had no idea of the deal that they had made.

I don't know if that makes him a good guy though.

He was just kind of like, I'm not interested

at all. Well, I'm saying like in this episode,

he wanted to, you know, once Jerrica believed

him. They went together to go find it and stop

it. Granted, you don't see much of him after

that. But it's one of those things where he didn't

know. He was used. Yeah, pretty much. He was

used and the Misfits were used. Like day old

hookers that they are. Hologram moments, Amy?

Just off that vein, Eric could learn a few things

from Mr. Lasseter, just saying. The, he got taken

advantage of by this guy. Well, his flunky, at

least. And finally, you know, you said the Misfits

are, you know, what they are. I was like, finally,

they get to end they end up staying in jail for

an evening. There you go. It's like, oh, poor

Misfits. They really had no idea. Yeah, I felt

I actually felt sorry for I felt bad for him

too because of the oh, yeah They're they're getting

arrested because they were there. That was the

wrong place the wrong time Yeah, I did like the

fact I did like the fact that you know, it's

always good to have a new creep. It's not always

Eric That's the bad guy. So that was my first

impression at first I was like, oh the the anonymous

buyer is gonna be Eric and then it wasn't I was

like, oh, okay good was alright with that so

so yep that's me I I don't really have a lot

of hologram moments in this one yeah I guarantee

you half of them have to do with real at least

one of them do you know Nicole hologram moments

for this one I like that Eric Raymond did get

a night off from the Misfits. Poor guy, you know?

Okay, the mention of Princess Diana and Charles

kind of threw me back. I'm like, oh my gosh,

she was alive and married at the time. You know?

Oh, this is so wrong. No, but it's true, because

to me, Princess Diana has been gone for a long

time. Yeah. I think it's forever. I know. Ten

years before she died. I know. So it kind of

threw me back. I'm like, whoa, whoa, talk about

Princess Di. I kind of threw me back. I like

how the goons made fun of Rio. Yay. Eric's reaction

to Jerika believing him was priceless. He's like,

really? Really? You believe me? I would believe

me. That was awesome. and yeah those those are

by my my hologram all righty then let's get to

the misfit moments after this Yes, we know you're

a mutant. Alright, it is time for... Yes, we

know you're a mutant. Alright, it is time for

Misfit Moments for K Gem. What do you got, Nicole?

Misfit Moments. Let's see. The top one has got

to be Rio. Well, we... Okay. Let's get on to

this one. Represent. Come on, represent. It's

gonna be Rio. Rio gets his pilot license. All

of a sudden, he is like a stuntman. driver for

the plane. What the hell? If he had his pilot's

license, he'd still be have to get, you know,

probably be supervised and everything. And they're

just giving him the reins. This guy can't even

drive, let him fly. Hey, even Jericho is like,

Oh no, we got to stop him. I was like, yeah,

crazy. The other thing is that Rio and Jim again.

It's like, I know it's like Jericho old news.

What was it this episode? Oh, yeah, because they're

like, oh, no, that's sorry. Next episode. We'll

get to that. That's my other. OK, anyways, anyway.

No, I just they've got to make up their mind

unless, you know, they don't mind being in a

three way. You know, and then we'll get off of

Rio. We all know how I feel about him. You know,

crash that plane for all I care. And you what?

Rio, do us all a favor and do an Amelia Earhart.

Just take off in the sunset and never come back.

There we go. You are so cruel. I know, I really

shouldn't compare Amelia Earhart to Rio. I apologize.

I really wonder if you, every time we sit down

to do one of these sessions, I really wonder

if you're sitting there with your white wig on.

And all the promotional videos and stuff of K

gem Raya was never featured Raya was hardly in

it I'm just like she's there in the show she

But when they did all the promotional videos,

it was just the original three holograms and

not Raya. I like dude Yeah, I'm just like What's

up with that man? Animation thing. I know but

it still takes me off. I like Raya Her dad's

got a greenhouse and cool orchids, man No, I

really I really feel bad cuz like they're doing

that the K gem promotions and they're all dancing

on the K gem sign and Ray is not there Wait,

maybe Rhea has... Wait, is this a drummer that

has no rhythm? Is that why she wasn't able to

dance? Oh, man. Oh, wow. Wow. Is that even possible?

I mean, for a drummer to have no rhythm? Because,

like, you know, you'd have to have rhythm so

you could... Anyhow, that just, like, breaks

your brain when you think about it. As much as

I love Ringo Starr, he's an awesome drummer.

The guy can't dance. Sorry. All right. There's

my misfit moment. Amy? Well, I did have Rio on

here because the whole Gemma Rio thing is like,

oh, you want to see my plane? She's like, oh,

yeah, sure. And I was going, really? Rio? And

how does he afford a plate? What drugs is he

doing, man? I honestly think that Jim slash Jerica,

I think Jerica gets so caught up in the moment

of being the alternate personality that she doesn't

realize what she's doing. Like she thinks that

it's her in the moment with Rio. But he wouldn't

know that. I know he wouldn't know that. He just

likes having two women Yeah, it's like he's going

out of his way to to get you know attention from

Jim now, it's just like It's confusing the poor

guy just let him know already because then it

would just it wouldn't be an issue anymore Poor

guy just needs to know anyhow crashing the concert

with the electrical cords under a parachute?

Come on, really? They would have been they would

have been injured by that somebody been electrocuted.

Oh, should we mention that Kimber falling in

love again? That was my next thing. And then

Kimber and Switch having a connection right away.

So when they finally pulled the parachute up,

they're just sitting there making oogily googly

eyes at each other. I even took that for my mind

to tell you mentioned that. I'm like, Oh, Kimber.

Yeah. Yeah. It was cheesy, but it was like, so

let's see. Let's see. Kimber. The whore has Jeff

Sean and now switch. Yep. She can switch a whole

bunch of other people too. I mean, old high school

fling. There you go. She's been like this since

high school. All the broken hearts left in her

wake. Yeah, Mr. Lasseter's flunky. You should

have known from the get -go. Do not get mixed

up with Raymond and the Misfits. You will go

down, boy, because they have a bad track record

already. I thought it was odd that the Misfits

wouldn't feel the movement of the plane. Yeah.

How would they not know that? I mean, if anything,

they'd suspect that they're in a drive driving

or doing something, but yeah, I, yeah. Well,

the other thing is that's a soundproof booth.

And unless the switch was on. Yeah, but how did

they get into that room then? Yeah, that's true

Go on a plane unless they I just don't see that

they would go to an airport and say oh We're

gonna take you into this special room. It's gonna

go down this long tube Well, I don't know has

been pretty gullible in the past We're taking

you to the secret secret secret lair Don't mind

all of those noises of planes in the background

Of course they could have gone to have like a

private up It's just the fact that they didn't

show I just don't know how in the world that

could possibly be happening, but whatever It's

still made for a nice little gotcha moment. It

was okay. We can't figure out where they're at.

Yeah, that's because they're on a plane But yeah,

that's that's me for me I just kind of sat back

and watched and enjoyed this episode because

of how heavy the previous two were I mean I agree

with everything you guys are saying about how

bad it is I still I still love it because the

whole radio station thing So I really don't have

any misfit moments for this one. Um, Amy, what

are you gonna rate this one? I'm going between

a three point five or and four and I'm like going

ah, which one am I gonna do? I don't know. I

don't know. I don't know It wasn't a bad episode.

It was it was fun. It's just like some of those

things that happened in the misfit moments I'm

just kind of I don't know if I can really buy

I'm gonna go with three four three and a half

I'm going with the three I thought it was a fun

episode. It had its moments. It was kind of crazy,

but it was just one of those episodes. You just

sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride. Even if

Ryo's involved. Just blank it out of your mind.

Five hands down. I know there are several issues

with the episode, but I still really, really

enjoyed it. I had a lot of fun with it. Not that

I didn't enjoy the previous two episodes, but

that was some really, I mean, between drug use

and what was the other one? Illiteracy. Illiteracy.

And illiteracy. Those are some pretty heavy issues.

So having this and not really having to, you

know... Deal with a lot of heavy issues. It was

it was really really good It was changed the

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are back here on Showtime Synergy. Amy, overall

thoughts on where the season and the series has

come to this point? I'm really liking season

two, much better than season one. I mean, it

just seems like... I'm enjoying more of what's

going on. We're not having the themed episodes

that are, you know, kind of feeling a little

fun, but yet, you know, kind of like wonky. But

we've had some pretty like, you know, they've

hit some pretty epic subject titles, topics in

in season two that they didn't in season one.

So that kind of has added to my enjoyment, I

think, because it's it's given it a level that

that they didn't previously have. I'm really

liking it. Yeah. Well, what about you? For season

two? For just, yeah, and overall? Like Amy said,

I'm really enjoying season two. It's really hitting

it out of the park. I think adding the new characters

with Rhea and Jedha has helped. I don't remember

back in the day liking Jedha. But watching it

this time around I kind of like her. She's a

she's a bitch She adds that that tension her

and Roxy I love I love that tension, you know,

it's a good dynamic. I really like it is I'm

liking it and I am also liking, you know the

adding of of the new starlight girl, but I mean

they're getting to more serious subjects and

And they're different. They're like everyday

kind of issues which some people can relate to.

I'm sorry, I don't remember the last time where

I had to go to Italy for a fashion show. You

know? But yeah, I'm really liking this season.

And there's a lot less Rio. Yeah. I'm saying

it. I like where the series is going overall.

I like that they're, you know, doing these more

in -depth, not necessarily controversial, but,

you know, hard -hitting stories with, you know,

Roxy Rumble and All Alone Again, some pretty

hard -hitting issues with drugs and literacy

and all that other stuff. And I just, I'm loving

it with the new characters. I kind of wish we

would get a little bit more of Jedha. We haven't

really other than when they found her in the

club and the fact that she's from England we

and You know, we haven't really much Well, yeah,

but they're all liars. I mean in in certain ways

Yeah, I you know, it's funny because like we've

talked about this was like we can't wait to get

stormers background We got stormers background

now We can't wait to get Roxie's and we kind

of build up to that now with Jetta. It's like

we will get a back Yeah, you know, it's just

We're at that moment, you know, we're we're asking

for the next we're asking the right questions

to get the next thing And luckily to this point

they haven't disappointed us as far as giving

us what we want unlike other 80s properties The

only thing they haven't given us what we wanted

is the fact that Rio still does not know about

Gemma Jericho No, it doesn't. It doesn't. It

left it hanging. Yep. Very last episode doesn't

even mention it. Really? That's what I remember.

Maybe that was just helpful when I was younger.

Yeah, you... Amy and I will rip that hope right

out from under your rug. Because it doesn't happen.

Yeah. It doesn't. Dang. I know. Doesn't that

just fight it? So what's his purpose then? He

decides to annoy me. Just saying that you know,

we might have time traveled back in time and

told them that they could not take that out,

you know Nicole we have Scramble the the original

continuity of of the reality to make sure that

Rio would stay in this and that he would never

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