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Breaking Bad Season 5 Review

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Control. This is the final season pass episode
for Breaking Bad. We've made it through all five
seasons. Yay! Yeah, of course, Steve, you and
Mike, joining me is Ryan and even Flo Murglielo,
sir. Made it through. I'm going to watch them
again now. Hell no, I already removed it from
Netflix. Removed it? I'm pretty sure you can't
do that. I think only Netflix can do that. Oh,
I... Dumbass! I meant I removed it from my list
on Netflix. Just because it's on there doesn't
mean I have to have it in my list of things to
watch. Alright breaking bad season 5 is probably
season 4 and season 5 are probably the best seasons
out of this Damn thing. I don't know. It's tough.
I really like season 3 as well So season 5 we've
got pretty much the same Main and recurring cast.
It doesn't really the only changes are when people
die well in the addition of Lydia's a regular.
Yeah, and then we've got the white supremacists
and Todd so yeah and Todd's a Todd's a regular
now as well Other guess these are real breath
of fresh air. No, he's not I Swear I've seen
that guy before somewhere uh... he's been a couple
things but uh... i think most notably it was
uh... friday nights uh... lights and i never
saw that show but i swear like just there's been
a bunch of the a actually done some voice uh...
overwork if i the window open it was the mall
space in the fair amount of things yes you are
the few reasons at least in breaking bad season
five like it right thinking i recognize him was
because I thought at the time... I thought at
the time he was trying to impersonate Matt Damon
in Good Will Hunting, because for a few moments
he sounded like Damon's character in Good Will
Hunting, but anyway. Matt Damon generally a little
less murderous. Obviously. He was also in Battleship,
I vaguely remember that. By the way, speaking
of Netflix man, does it ever not know what they
recommend to me because I remember when battleship
got added It told me here's a movie you might
enjoy and I remember thinking He's on Fargo if
you've seen that isn't here I forgot about that.
He's been in a ton of things though any CIS Grey's
Anatomy CSI judging Amy cold case fear itself
Any of those no, yeah teenage wish I'm sure you
watched old funny Although usually a background
character I've not seen that episode He was Tommy
Harbor in varsity blue blues in 99. Wow. I did
not remember that guy at all Well, he was in
a Matt Damon film All the pretty horses. Maybe
there's a stand -in. Oh, God. Other characters
in this, in recurring for season five, we've
got Skinny Pete and Badger are back. We'll get
to that. That shocked the hell out of me. Not
that they came back, but... what they came back
and i love their appearance is in the fair anyway
uh... the other one that's and notable too is
i mean mike comes back as a regular character
at this point yeah it only took him four and
a half years yeah well he's in pretty much all
the episodes up until uh... something happens
uh... so until he goes to belize aww what? that's
what Saul said anyway So poor soul At least he
grew a backbone at the end Well, I think a lot
of that too is the mystique around Walt is dead
as he's coughing and he's becoming frail from
the cancer Before we get into it overall, one
of my favorite things was in this season in particular
Walt doesn't solve any of his problems through
violence himself because I mean he can't and
Well, no even then though he doesn't solve it
himself I mean he uses science and that kind
of thing because he's not a you know He's not
a guy who's gonna run in and shoot everybody
and you know John woo double fist though pistol
You know or come in with a shotgun and be the
Punisher or something like that. I mean I appreciated
that because that was one of the fears because
When we open with live free or die the opening
episode We get Walt in the 52 at 52 years old
and he You know and we get the he's got the gun
in the trunk As a giant like what is it a 50
count or 60 can't remember oh Man, also, I don't
know my guns all that. Well, it's one of them
Yes, it's a large gun and such. I do know my
guns really well. Sorry. It's an M60 That's right.
That's what I said. It was an M60. Yeah Which
is not a light? No, no Well Walter White even
cancer -free Walter White could not lift that
by himself Yeah, I was kind of Unless I get a
visual cue saying that it's the future or the
past or 18 hours before whatever Sometimes I
get confused with this show on their flash forwards
and flash To be fair. This one was pretty clear.
I mean they show the license plate, which is
a obviously not albuquerque He comes in and it's
50 does the 52 and then we cut to him with his
family where he's doing 51 so you know yeah well
yeah but I think for me the reason why I didn't
know what the hell was going on was because apparently
his cancer has come back which makes his hair
grow back for some odd reason Well, no, he just
stops doing chemo. Oh, well, there's that too.
Because obviously he can't just go into a hospital
and go, hi, I'm Walter White. Also, I mean, his
cancer at this point is A, terminal, and B. He's
in, you know, he's kind of past the point of
no return, unfortunately. Well, yeah, anyway.
Yeah, he's pretty much past the point of no return
at this point, but yeah, well. we'll get there
uh... this first episode let's see it's mostly
just tying up the last season i mean yeah alton
jesse need to get gus's old laptop uh... a race
and you know mike is in on it because obviously
mike used to be a police officer Then I mean
that's sort of the main thing some behind -the
-scenes stuff. This one was directed by Michael
Slovis who was the director of I mean he did
the majority of The visuals and the camera work
and everything else for the show And so, you
know, it's nice for him to Get to it seems like
everybody got in on Three bad at some point or
another yeah, but you know you would turn this
into you know He's directed two episodes of Game
of Thrones now, and so it's I think he's another
one that he had had a good career before Breaking
bad and now he directs on you know Game of Thrones
He's done better call Saul etc etc, but you know
it's another one That's an awful lot of people
have had careers been out of the show Michelle
McLaren who directs the second episode Desperately
should be doing movies because she does amazing
action sequences and she's also even on episodes.
She doesn't necessarily direct she's responsible
for most of the Amazing time -lapse sequences
Breaking Bad does you know when this that stuff
to music and you get the sort of montage of everything
going on That's generally always her and there
it's always really well done That's awesome The
first episode Jesse's finally using his brain
loving that Jesse's probably the smartest he's
ever been in this Sadly one of the most clear
-cut instances of it Yeah, he he does use it
throughout the season and he does use it in the
finale a couple of times Yeah, and he's grown
up an awful lot since that first season My one
thought about Episode one's plot here. Why the
hell is there a tricycle in the police evidence
room? How many police evidence rooms have you
been into? I've seen a lot of them on TV and
movies, and I just don't, you know, think guns
and drugs and all this other stuff. I don't think
kids' tricycles. I don't know, they have like
whatever evidence. Maybe it's the... Maybe it's
a second bike from the one kid who shot Combo.
I don't know. Anyway. all of all that's just
so wrong uh... of course he was killed later
on yeah that's what he got killed on haha haha
haha haha wow uh... walt intimidating sol was
was interesting and then um... at the end of
this episode that is the most awkward hug in
tv history yeah pretty much and i like the intimidation
of sol because of course we get a call back in
to it in the second last episode um... and yeah
just this is a good way to start the season it's
kind of a it's fun to see the episodes where
walt and jesse are kind of working towards something
uh... and i like that they do that again in a
few episodes but then of course they turn it
to turn it on its head at the end of that one
but anyway uh... yeah so The second episode which
is madrigal we get the setup for Lydia who's
a new? Mm -hmm character to the series and first
of all i didn't know what was going on with the
opening sequence in this and then it all made
sense when you realize that okay it's this is
yeah this is what she's monos yeah uh... and
the guy there is yet committing suicide because
he apparently was in on it with guys uh... quite
clearly and yet the d still trying to figure
out what happened from or what happened with
guns and all these other things which you know
obviously they would but yeah And then aside
from that, yeah, we get Walton Jesse trying to
figure out a new business plan. They need a methylamine
supplier, which is where Lydia comes in. And
yeah, Mike is a, Mike goes along with them here
fairly reluctantly. I think he's mostly looking
out for Jesse at this point. yeah he doesn't
want anything to do with walter no yet because
mike smarts any smarter than most of the people
in the show yet although to be fair is also older
and wiser was kind of scene at all i mean it's
something tells waltz uh... much earlier in the
series that he's seen people like him and like
gossett before eccentric centers jesse's breakdown
in this episode is just hauntingly eerie and
amazing honestly I mean Aaron Paul kicked that
character's emotions into high gear and of course
they have to bring in the creep factor factor
here with Walter trying to reassure him that
all of my notes regarding Walt and Jesse for
the first like five episodes of season five creepy
the last note i have for sees fruit episode two
Walter at the end oh my god too creepy well a
lot of it is because uh... we know now you know
how manipulative walt is most of the lily of
the valley scene at the end of season four uh...
we get mike's backstory in this because the by
the next episode mike's dead But I loved finally
seeing Mike's, you know, Mike's backstory because
he ends up in, was it eight? Mike's not dead
until the middle of season five, by the way.
Oh, well. Man, you've jumped way forward. I thought
it was, I thought, well, no, but we get the,
we get his backstory in episode two, right? Because
he's in the, he's in the police station. we see
that he's not going to tell them anything and
then hank goes through various things in places
where he's been and then they go through a montage
yeah we do get his back story that's accurate
it's just uh... yeah mike mike and his associates
uh... not to mention some of gus's people including
chow who uh... gets killed in this he was seen
in an earlier episode as part of sort of gus's
crew uh... chow was the methamene supplier for
guts uh... remember anyway anyway uh... so yes
he gets nabbed by the d a which results in you
know the d a is on to mike and makes kind of
the hot one at this point uh... as well as Mike
we learn from this episode and From the next
one because Walter's upset in hazard pay third
episode He's upset that any of their money is
going to pay Gus's slash Mike's former guys the
ones who did get caught and are in prison and
Yeah So anyway, this is part of Mike's kind of
downfall Mike is fiercely loyal Yeah, and there's
generally nothing wrong with that. The problem
is of course Walt's not yeah Walt only cares
about the money and being the the best the yeah,
so Yeah, so anyway, yeah in hazard pay what I
liked was the whole Can't you get dehumidified?
I love Saul taking them around to various places
where potentially there could be a lab. No fast
food, no laser blaze. I love when they go to
the laser blaze place and both Walt and Jesse
just look at each other and they're like, no.
What's a recurring theme? Saul really likes the
laser tag because I mean that's one of the businesses
he wanted them to buy to Launder the money through
yeah, but yeah the other notes for this or at
least well I mean a coat if there's a bunch of
episode the one Walt just flat -out moves himself
back into his old house Against Skyler's wishes
so that's extremely creepy Next we get the first
appearance of ominous pest control And by the
way, we get the return this is one of the episodes
that skinny Pete and Badger come back in because
they go and buy the music cases, which I thought
was amusing because I use that stuff for audio
video equipment But anyway, yeah, we got a number
of different things so I mean Jesse and Andre
are starting to See each other again and Walt
has a conversation with Brock. Oh So creepy only
a few episodes ago so creepy next Marie And Skyler
kind of have it out because Skyler has a breakdown.
Yeah and Yeah, it's a hoof. I mean so a number
of things. I mean first of all Walt encourages
Jesse to break up with Andrea yeah partially
because a piece of crap and also because he's
worried about getting found out but the real
reason is he's a piece of junk yeah he just doesn't
want to see have to see Brock or potentially
feel bad or anything You know, I mean, Walt is
terrible in this entire episode. He's terrible
in this entire season. Yeah, I mean, this whole
season is sort of a denouement to the show. It's
a what happens if Walt wins sort of episode and
most shows or episode season. Most shows don't
get the chance to do that. Like most shows would
end with the hero, quote unquote. You know being
triumphant in season four and getting rid of
Gus. Yeah, but of course Walt's no hero And so
yeah, we get the you know Walt is basically now
Scarface It's a great series, but man, like this
season wears on you, especially the last few
episodes, but anyway. Yeah, the last few wear
on us. We'll get to those. The thing about hazard
pay before we move on to the next one. the house
tent montage I just had to laugh at that like
look I get that's what they're gonna be doing
that's how they're gonna be there they're basically
gonna be having mini labs inside people's homes
and you know as they you know tent for bugs and
all that stuff and fumigate but just the way
that that was shot the way that the cinematography
was done for that and the music behind how the
camera moved as each house got tempted that was
just hilarious i found that so funny the other
all of the tense uh... which by the way i'm pretty
sure is actually inclining overall but anyway
uh... The it's meant to signify that Walt's cancer
is back the tents popping up one after another
time -lapse It's the cell the cancer cells returning
and Walter and it's the cancer spreading which
is an intent intentional visual and really smart
because at that point in the season we were wondering
like what Walters health was at because he hasn't
really shown a whole lot of Signs of the cancer
lately yeah anyway 51 yeah 51 car wars That montage
was great just back and forth back and forth
that was hilarious I mean Walt's won't mean it
continues to go off the rail, but we get jesse
and lydia they're facing off there's gps trackers
on their barrels yeah uh skyler continues to
go nuts like there's a number of different uh
plot lines in this well the gps trackers i mean
that was all lydia She's just becoming more and
more unhinged. This episode has Skyler's famous
pool scene. That was good. There's a conversation
about the plan as well. Wow. some of the conversation
that they have in this season when they do get
to talk to each other are just so great for both
of their characters to see how much is she going
to compromise herself for him yeah uh... it's
so some more like behind the scenes slash or
stuff that you can see that you may not notice
one is uh... skyler changes her entire wardrobe
over the course of the season Yeah. She's in
the sort of dull colors that Walt used to wear
when he was kind of beaten down and that kind
of thing. And that's intentional. The other one,
of course, is Walt and Jesse reverse colors as
the season goes on. And by the end of the series,
Walt is in the clothes that Jesse wore in the
premiere and Jesse's in... Similar clothes to
Walt, which was really neat Intentional like
to show that how the characters are Evolving.
I really liked the Schuyler stuff the fact that
yeah her color palette As a character just goes
down and down as the time goes on and things
get crappier for Yeah, and I mean we get that
they flat -out you know are talking about whether
or not to kill Lydia which Mike's in completely
in favor for which is interesting and then waltz
of course goes against it because he doesn't
want to lose any time yeah and jesse gives him
a nice uh... new watch that only lasted till
the end i forgot that i forgot that jesse had
given him that because Before we record the episode,
folks, I've watched the fifth season over the
last week and a half or so, and I've taken notes
as I've gone along, but up until watching the
final two episodes about two or three hours before
we recorded this, I forgot that Jesse had given
him that watch. And then we get the last line
of the episode as... creepy when walt tell skyler
the person who gave me this one i want to be
dead too he changed his mind skyler and so will
you uh... i'm paraphrasing but and then we get
uh... episode five god i love this episode was
a good one uh... death rate so basically the
majority of episodes of fantastic train job this
is one you basically just have to watch there's
not an awful lot to it i mean they're stealing
a train load of methylamine it's a really well
-thought -out plan this is an amazing episode
and then it all gets undone at the end as uh...
a kid uh... gets Kid like comes across what they're
doing and Todd's, you know shoots him. Yep It's
a true I can't remember the last name now I think
it's true is the name. Yeah. Yeah, that's what
it is true sharp Yeah, I only have four because
you're right. I was just watching this episode
When I you know, normally I take a lot of notes,
but when it's just an episode that you just have
to watch while planning a a bug in hanks office
that's that's yeah that's major and he doesn't
need your e very you know pretends to be broken
up and uh... uh... i mean i like chris is acting
for it but as the wall character where walt is
now that just yeah you're right uh... signal
what he is going to get it like i know she's
she's on the hit list at some point uh... like
what else voted to kill her in the previous yeah
uh... running a train ok then that that was cool
uh... you know at least they didn't you know
listed in gulf in uh... in bandit masks is this
a robbery no it's a science experiment which,
kind of, would have fit in with Walt. I liked
how they used Bill Burr's character to Kubi to
stop the train, of course. Yes, that was hilarious.
That was great. Mike's little lookout, and then
Walt, Jesse, and Todd are draining the methylamine,
and it's all really well done, and it's all really...
It's great tension. It's shot really well and
that kind of thing and then he had the finale
which was heartbreaking where You know drew just
waves at them Todd waves back proving what a
great guy Todd is Yeah kills him. Oh my god,
dude just What's funny is later on I guess you
know they'll do it now i mean later on will first
of all jenny jesse plemmons is amazing as taught
in this whole series only is yeah i don't you
know a lot of his stuff is uh... ad -libbed because
he understood the character more than even the
writers okay and i'll get to that like a lot
of his stuff with lydia's ad -libbed in the way
he's you know creepily attracted to her For example
like the episode where he picks up the cup of
coffee and wipes her lipstick off it You know
that was ad -libbed by him. Yeah as something
creepy Todd would do but anyway He's great in
this episode and he's so just creepy overall
because I mean Think it's the second last episode
where he's watching the video and Jesse's talking
about you know Drew Drew Sharpe being killed
on video and Todd's laughing because he's thinking
like god good times. I remember that like Yeah,
he thinks he's buddies with Jesse and Walt and
you know, they're all friends He's like, I remember
that cool time when we brought the train and
I had to kill the children, you know That's not
It's funny you tell me that this is all ad -libbed
by him because it to me It seems like it would
be something that Vince would write in because
I'm watching all Yeah, a lot of the stuff with
Lydia is what's ad -libbed, but I mean the stuff
with you know Todd laughing and being that like
Much of a sociopath was all meant Yeah, but yeah,
I mean, you know Vince on the podcast would always
say, you know It only matters if you've got really
good actors to pull off what you're writing And
yeah, Jesse Plemons does a great job and you're
right like Aaron Paul Through this episode and
then the next one when he's you know Obviously,
you know, we open with him completely broken
up as they have to melt down the bike and the
The bike and the corpse. Yeah. I mean, you know,
Jesse, you know, punches Todd because Todd's
like, Hey, remember that kid? You know, he's
just chatting about it. Should be noted to Todd's
like creepy, like keeping the tarantula that
Drew had on him. Yeah, also is fairly creepy.
I mean, who just uh... get chills yes anyway
uh... jesse wants to leave in the next episode
uh... i don't have to serve at least uh... uh...
and wants them to sell the math let me into deck
when you get introduced uh... To Declan the actor
who plays him. I can't I don't think it's this
scene I think it's later on the say my name scene.
He's super duper sick in real life and just could
barely talk and Some of those things you don't
think about when you're watching it on TV, but
anyway Yes, I mean Jesse wants out Walt obviously
doesn't want him out because Walt just wants
to keep Keep cooking I mean, I can't talk about
the next episode without bringing up one of my
favorite scenes of the entire season, which is
the terrible slash amazing dinner scene with
Walt and Jesse at dinner with Skyler, with Skyler
telling him, like, oh, did Walter ever tell you
about my affair? Yeah. That's he's just shoveling
green beans the entire time and just trying to
do anything but talk Yeah, the dinner scene was
awesome The dinner scene was great Yep, so I
mean Mike also wants to sell and Walt's the only
one that doesn't Walter ends up hiding the methylamine
and you know Mike's gonna kill him which oof
let's be honest Mike probably should have at
this point but anyway yeah series would be over
if we had but yeah Mike should have killed him
be a much happier ending is my point yeah very
true I mean with what happens at the very end
of the series the last I would say the last two
episodes are just a repeated gut punch Yeah,
I would almost say the last... The last four.
Thirteen to sixteen. Four? Yeah, we'll get to
it, but I'm just saying, it's like, if you had
Mike kill Walt Mao, would it be great for the
characters and the story of the, like, what's
going on in the show continuity? Yeah, but for
us and dealing with it and whatever and having
a great show to watch, no. So episode seven.
Yeah, the next one just rolls right into it with
Mike, Jesse, and Walt meeting with Declan this
time. And by the way, we get the suite to Say
My Name bit, which is the title of the episode
too. But anyway, it's outstanding. And yeah,
so he buys Mike out. And Mike decides he's going
to pay. continue to pay Gus's boys slash his
boys and You know gets ready to leave permanently
because I mean the DA in this episode and the
previous ones Have been all over both. He and
his family. So Kaylee and you know is So Kaylee's
granddaughter and then his daughter -in -law
and just Yes, I mean things aren't going well
for Mike. He has the law all over him. Outside
of Jesse's slow eventual turn later this season,
Mike is by far my favorite character of the show.
The entire show. Mike is awesome. And it just
sucks how Mike had to go out. So I mean, Jesse
and Walt, you know, Jesse wants his money. Walt
ends up cooking with Todd, who Todd's like his
dream student, because I mean, Todd is just there
to like listen and yeah, not talk back, et cetera,
et cetera. And I mean, it's just I mean. Whatever
so there sounds terrible And then we end the
episode and this is heartbreaking. So first of
all Mike ends up just leaving his granddaughter
at the park Because the police are there and
they're on to him and it's all mostly Walt's
fault So Mike calls Saul and wants his go -bag
so he can leave And so first of all Mike makes
a mistake and refuses to let Jesse help, because
he doesn't want Jesse to get in trouble, so he
asks for Walt to help. No, that's his undoing.
It's a great scene, and Walt just wants the names
of the guys who Mike's paying off, because Walt's
going to kill them, or have them killed, I should
say. and mike insults waltz ego which by the
way you know mike's a hundred percent dead on
with it but then of course you know walt storms
off and we find out that he stormed off to go
get a gun and he kills mike yeah and yeah it's
terrible uh... we get our first death bomb of
the season which i liked though with Mike just
telling him to shut the fuck up and let him die
in peace But yeah, I mean Walt it's funny cuz
Walt realizes that killing Mike was unnecessary
that he could have gotten it from Lydia but I
mean Walt Walt's a bad person. I mean all he
really cares about is his ego You know as we
see in the next episode like he doesn't he doesn't
even care about covering up for himself, et cetera,
et cetera, it's just... I don't know, he wants
to be... Yeah. With episode eight, um... The
mid -season finale should be noted. Yes, the
mid -season finale. Oh, boy, this one. When this
first started, I thought we were starting a whole
new storyline. I didn't realize it first. And
again, this goes to me not really being in...
The fandom of the show I didn't realize the guys
that Walt was talking to her the new hitman.
I just thought that they were When we first see
them without Walt there. I just figured oh, this
is gonna be a whole this is somebody coming after
Walt And then we find out that those are you
know Trump supporters Every fucking episode I
can't help but listen you introduce a bunch of
white supremacists. What am I supposed to think
so? Anyway, yeah joking aside so There's about
a dozen great episodes portions of this episode.
I mean we get a pair of montages, but no, I Don't
know. I really liked the prison slash everybody
gets killed within A few minutes. It's less than
two minutes, yeah. Three different prisons and
all of them die. That almost reminded me of the
scene in Daredevil Season 2 when Punisher gets
out. When he's in jail. yeah he's killing it
that's honestly what it's you don't remind me
i know i don't have to remind you but i'm reminding
the audience because they may not know what the
fuck i'm talking about i know i don't have to
remind you here that you i get it and all be
all you know it better i am not worthy anyway
but seriously the the under two minute uh...
g between three different jail killing scene
that reminded me of The Punisher attacking everybody
in the jail scene in Daredevil Season 2. That
was great. It crushes Hank to the point that
he confides in Walt, which is a great pick there.
Wrong decision, Hank. You said you enjoy the
montages. I like the Crystal Blue Persuasion
song montage the best out of the two. That was
great. I need to find that song. Holy crap. I
like that song now. Yeah, I actually have it
on my iPod. Cool. So, yeah, I mean, Walt, this
was just an amazing episode. I mean, it's interesting
that Jesse now is smart enough to be afraid of
Walt because, I mean, he knows Walt killed Mike.
Jesse's not a complete idiot. And, you know,
Walt comes over and he like reminisces about...
You know cooking the simple days of cooking meth
in the old RV the good times Yeah, stroll down
memory lane. I liked the finance the final portion
of the scene too, you know won't give them two
bags and There's part of me in my head going
like oh Jesus probably contains Mike's head or
something but no, it was actually, you know Jesse's
share of the money and It's weird because I mean
this, you know, it's we're pretty much completely
tied up most of the loose ends are gone, you
know Hanks Case is pretty much gone. Jesse's
done. Etc, etc. And then Hank goes to take a
dump and Undoes pretty much everything when you
know, just looking through and of course he finds
Gail's Griff gift to Walter My other ww yeah,
um, and he has an immediate I liked that we had
the immediate sort of callback to that conversation
Yeah, that he had with walt's wave a couple seasons
ago where you know He tells him like walter white
and walt's like you got me. You got me. Yeah,
and of course Yeah, we know that he did and that's
how we end this kind of half season was We end
it with you know Tank looks up on the toilet
and he now knows holy shit, you know My final
moat for the episode well shit Hank No, this
is a great midseason finale even though I'm watching
them now full -on all the way through but this
was This was an episode that I if I was watching
this series at the time that this was airing
this would be Really really agonizing for me
to have to wait for the show to come back Yeah
trust me it was i know we would talk about it
at work like every day about what's gonna happen
because at the time there wasn't a whole lot
of other shows on with this type of cliffhanger
and that kind of thing like game of thrones was
huge at this point but the books existed and
so like I had an idea of what was happening in
the future, et cetera, et cetera. This was like
a genuine cliffhanger that you had no real idea.
Yeah, absolutely. And we jumped straight into,
you know, we get the, I loved the flash forward
of the White House. Yeah, that was awesome. yeah
and seeing like heisenberg spray painted so at
this point we know that you know whatever happens
people know walter white was heisenberg and the
house is like a mess and you know he comes and
he retrieves the thing of ricin that he hid there
earlier i like the scene by the way where he
sees his name his neighbor hello carol hello
carol and she just flips out yeah uh... yes and
i mean i love that they just absolutely went
straight into it like the end of this episode
is walter and hank facing off and hank basically
telling them i know who you are i know your name
and then walter you know threatens him back but
i just like that most shows would have tried
to probably uh... just draw that out and instead
like this one they immediately went straight
into it and you know we find out that also that
Walt's cancers returned and he hides well he
tries to keep it from his family but he starts
on the growing chemo again yeah and Jesse is
unsurprisingly miserable Yeah, Jesse's arc in
this season because again, you know, like we
said we've said it before over and over again
Jesse feels bad and Walt doesn't yeah I Mean
yeah Walter I mean we saw it earlier this season
another one of my favorite scenes when they're
talking about drew sharp being murdered and Walt
tells Jesse, you know i had kids you know don't
you think how do you think i feel about this
and jesse goes to leave and walter's whistling
anyway um... the thing with episode well we're
almost on the episode ten at this point uh...
with buried uh... uh... uh... here is walter
scrambling at the beginning of this Because he
has the guys he has What's -his -name and what's
-his -name? Saul's guys Yeah, kubi and he'll
he has them Gather up the money and the two of
them are like well one of them is like come on
You know just do it once. We're not here to be
channeling Scrooge McDuck, and I'm like yeah
And I did not notice this until the finale I
did not know that where Walt buried his his stash
was where they first cooked yeah, because If
you look closely when he's rolling the barrel
back, you'll see his pants that were thrown out
the window of the RV in the pilot, which is a
nice touch. Obviously, in real life, it wasn't
them. It's sort of an Easter egg for the people
who have been watching. Absolutely I'm gonna
be saying this a lot a few times this season.
I finally like Marie When she is protecting the
baby from Skylar, holy hell that scene. Oh my
god. Oh Boy well in general like when they're
not trying to give her all these quirks and I've
said it before She can be a good character. So
I mean if they've kind of done this Yeah from
the start it would have been nice. But yeah,
she's Good in this I should know to you know
somebody we haven't talked a lot about in the
whole series Hank Dean Norris is terrific in
this season too. Yeah He had never He's a much
bigger character at this point in the series,
but yeah, he just He works just as well Yeah,
no, I mean The way I see Hank is he's the opposite
side of the coin for Walt. It's good and bad,
whatever else, but it's one of those things where
because Walt has had this hanging over him for
the longest time, and just basically it's right
in front of his nose but he doesn't see it yet,
he's come close a couple of times, and obviously
he knows now. obviously but it's one of those
things where i think the reason why hanks character
got so much better this season was because he
finally figured it out he finally has his guy
and emotional torture just like holy crap this
is my brother -in -law yeah and it's entertaining
to see the battle of wits between them you know
waltz trying to stay one step ahead and can't
Thanks closing in on him, et cetera, et cetera.
And yeah, I should note too, this episode is
the end of Declan as the Jack and his white supremacist
crew kill all of them and take the Lathlamine
and everything. Luckily for the show, but unluckily
for Jesse. He's a crappy. Or sorry Todd's a crappy
cook. But anyway, yeah, so in this one Yeah in
this one we end with Jesse getting nabbed finally
Yeah, I mean Hank has to know you know Hank put
two and two together that Jesse's Part of it
and yeah, Jesse. Unfortunately is the one that's
most likely to crack because he's already going
nuts from all the murdering Yeah everybody have
any one day I love later in the in the only kids
I think it's episode 13 or 14 when Walter Jr.
asks his mom why do we have to say that is just
what we say dear whatever she told him it's also
the same episode we get the sweet exchange between
Walt Jr. and Saul of well kid you know don't
drink and drive but if you do better call Saul
got Saul anyway we'll get more of him later yep
yep but yeah episode 11 was great it was so fun
Jesse, put out the lighter. He poisoned a little
kid. An eight -year -old boy just because, you
know, just has to move. All right, Walter, bastard.
The secret's out. We'll talk about it. But I
need you to put out the lighter, okay? Look,
Jesse. You see, I don't want to kill you. And
you don't want to be killed. So put it out. He
can't keep getting away with it. He can't keep
getting away with it. He won't. You really want
to burn him down? Let's do it together. like
episode 12 so I mean you know again like it's
pretty easy to sum up in this one I mean the
bulk of it is Walt knows he needs to silence
or get rid of Jesse Skyler just flat -out says
like why don't you have him killed like yeah
like Skyler is at this point well I mean I think
she half She doesn't necessarily mean it. She's
just kind of saying like well, you killed so
many other people Yeah, she's pointing out. Yeah.
Yeah. She says we've come this far. What's one
more? Yeah Walt for whatever reason just doesn't
want to kill him at least early on although we
end with Yeah, Jesse's sweet phone call to wall
threatening him and then we end with you know
Walter calling Jack and his crew to kill Jesse.
Yeah No, I I love that I love Again another instance
of me enjoying Marie's character finally is that
between her and Hank? They're both stepping up
to to come in and deal with you know taking care
of the kids and things like that because both
what I means like I said before Skyler is so
compromised by Walt's that I Don't know how anyone
could expect her to take care of her own kids
yeah uh... the only thing and i mean in instance
of them i mean i guess he doesn't know him but
we also get you know in the end jesse doesn't
go to the meeting with walls yeah and probably
deservedly so although who knows what would happen
but i mean The other half of this that I sort
of don't like because it reminds me that he's
not the He's a good guy, but he doesn't know
jesse or anything. But I mean, uh hank is willing
to let jesse die like he doesn't care What happens
as long as he gets walled at this point? Yeah,
and I mean even tells gomez like, you know, it
doesn't really matter like he Doesn't like jesse
and he doesn't really care. You know what happens
as long as they get their evidence Yeah Yeah,
Jesse What I loved about this episode and I think
it happened in the lat wasn't it wasn't the last
episode where the last episode ended Yeah, the
last episode ended on Jesse in the house with
the gasoline and then in the middle like between
episode 11 and 12 it ends on such a Epic note
with Jesse, you know just going off and spraying
the entire house of gas that in this episode
it opens up with such a quietness I wasn't sure
if we were ever gonna get back to that to figure
out what the hell happened we find out that Hank
showed up and basically convinced Jesse hey look
not you know yeah to stand down yeah and I love
that I think that's great you're right Hank doesn't
care what happens to Jesse but I like the fact
that the two characters can interact with each
other without either one of them wanting to kill
each other yeah i think i accidentally skipped
over confessions because it was it's all right
sorry which is important episode to me that's
the one as well i mean we get the excellence
uh... walter dvd of his confessions hank which
completely like sets up hank yeah and in the
absence of evidence is you know if something
happens to wall it would just be a he said she
said with You know that DVD versus Whatever evidence
Hank would have which is not much at this point.
So I mean, yeah Walt knows so yeah, just Yeah,
I mean and that's yeah, you're right that's how
we emptied ended because I mean Walt's or Walt
Jesse is finally gonna leave go to the disappear
and mmm God, I wish he had There's so many chances
for Jesse to have it's not gonna be you know
He's not gonna be a self -made millionaire But
there are so many chances in this series for
Jesse to make the right decision for himself,
and he never does yeah Not until the very obviously
not until the very end but It's one of those
things where it's why I said Jesse as one of
the two main characters is by far the better
liked main character because as you said he actually
cares what happens. Yeah there's a likeability
to Jesse at least and by this point there's none
to Walter. None to Walter at all. And the only
negative for this entire season. is in this episode
too, is in Confessions. Not the one I skipped
too, but anyway. So in Confessions, Jesse realizes
that Huell pickpocketed the ricin and that Walt
must have poisoned Brock. And he figures this
out because Huell pickpockets his pot before
he's going to leave. Love the show and but I
think Jesse's pretty bright, but yeah, that's
a bit of a leap I mean Like it's it's not as
though. It's completely on a left field, but
it's still pretty loose that Jesse goes. Oh this
guy pickpocketed me easily wait. He must have
pickpocketed me that time, too It's sort of minor.
I mean the show's good enough that Yeah, and
it's always been so good with the details though
that this sticks out a little bit I mean, I need
to say I'm not trying to pick on other shows,
but I mean these leaps of logic. It's kind of
normal for stuff For other shows especially network
shows. Yeah You know for breaking bad when you
do something that requires even the slightest
bit of leap It sticks out like a sore thumb because
they've tried to be so careful and everything's
so well made Yeah Did we even see you pickpocket
it's best like the highest resolution you can
find to do it but yeah and you can see him pickpocket
the weed as well yeah i figured as much on that
i just i think what i love when when it comes
to jesse and him actually getting to a point
where he is using his brain that the the realization
expressions that erin paul uses for jesse's character
it's like shit bitch, he took the ricin off of
me. I just love that about Aaron Paul as Jesse.
Oh, it's so good. I'm also impressed that they
had the... I mean, they very easily could have
just had, oh, he took it and not bothered with...
Explaining it, yeah. Well, that and not bothered
having it actually happen on film. Yeah. But
I mean, if you go back and I tried and I did
this, if you go back and watch the episode, yeah.
You can actually see him grab something, but
man, do you have to be paying attention. He's
really good at it. And I don't remember if that
took a whole bunch of takes or what. I wish I
did, because I do know they talked about it on
the podcast, that the actor who played Huell
is actually a comedian. But anyway, if I remember
right, they were impressed with how good he was
at it. He didn't have a huge problem doing it
because man like I I would have been fumbling
it would have knocked Aaron Paul over trying
to get Stop moving damn it Aaron. I mean Jesse
Stop fidgeting So oops, I skipped forward into
rabbit dog, which is the episode I mentioned
before that yeah, you know you mentioned it too
that Jesse gets cut off and Yeah, well gets picked
up and that's this is when to they have Jesse's
admission of guilt and everything that Walt did
on tape and Then yeah, they want to pick up Walt's
but I mean he wants to get that last little bit
which is you know Hank uses Jesse as bait And
then Walt's like Todd It's Walt. I might have
another job for your uncle. No, don't kill Jesse.
You still owe me for Jesse. That's later. I mean
we opened just before that, that Todd's trying
to get better at math, but it's still only...
76 % and it's not blue so her buyers aren't happy
This was when you know Todd receives a lucky
phone call from Walt trying to you know Get Jack
to kill his uncle. Yeah. Oh boy Yeah, so meanwhile
they try to set up a Sting on Walt by using the
money To draw him out which works But unfortunately
Jack and his gang You know went with him As you
know Walt thinks Jesse's gonna kill him and he
makes the mistake of calling Jack and his crew
and have them come out there and Well, he calls
them off, but obviously they're not gonna listen.
No, I mean we end with the shootout All that
shootout So good. He gets one. So he sorry Hank
gets one last call To Marie and I hate to say
it, but I mean when the phone call happened I
knew he was dead Yeah, but on the opposite side
of that when Jack and his crew were coming I
knew everyone was screwed and everyone was screwed
anyway Yeah, it didn't feel like a I just bought
a boat, you know cliche moment because I mean
he already knew that everybody See you had to
sit there and go and say I just bought a boat
now the first thing I think it was do we want
to have Leo shoot the shark And lethal weapon
yes three or four I think it's four anyway watched
her die I watched her overdose and choke to death
I could have saved her but I didn't so I don't
know like so first of all that episodes fantastic
I know it's summed it up quickly yeah it's another
one that you can just You could just watch it
and the next episode is what I feel is the best
episode of the entire series Ozymandias directed
by a future Star Wars director Ryan Johnson who's
absolutely brilliant, but anyway Yeah Yeah, this
episode is by far the oh I don't know Yeah, it
is and yes, I mean we open with the aftermath
of the shootouts I liked, you know, Hank telling
Walter, like, Walter, you know, you're so smart,
how are you going to be so stupid? Jack made
up his mind, like. Ten minutes ago. Yeah. And
anyway, of course, yeah, Jack kills them and
runs off with the money, leaving. Jack's got
at least some sort of a bit of sort of an honor
among thieves. Leaves in one barrel. Yeah, and
Todd and. Todd's an ass. I hate Todd. Oh god,
that's... Yeah, Todd encourages Jack to let Walt
go. Now we get more of Walter being such a piece
of shit. This is when, like, my disdain for Walter
turned to outright hatred. So he turns in Jesse.
Yeah. And as they're pulling him away, you know,
Walt just says to him, I watched Jane die. Yeah,
this is the the scene you were talking about
a couple episodes ago of the podcast. Yeah. Oh,
I mean if you didn't despise Walt I Just oh I
have the anyway and no I I'm right there with
you I mean that is the scummiest thing he does.
I mean he could have he could have just let you
know Jesse go, but no is like I got to take him
with me Which is ironic because of what happens
at the end? Because isn't it? We'll get to it,
but isn't it Walt that tackles Jesse? Yeah, he
saves them and ends up. Yeah and ends up. Yeah
shrapnel or a bullet. Yeah We'll get to that
but it's one of those things where yeah in this
episode It's like he wants to hurt Jesse as much
as he possibly can well And there's still something
involved in that finale because he sees what?
So, in this episode, getting back to it, I mean,
Jesse ends up chained up and in a cell, like
in absolute chains, where he's got to cook, and
Todd, you know, puts up a picture of Andrea and
Brock, basically, as a threat to him to keep
cooking. And, you know, we'll get to it, but
I mean, later on, Jim's sympathy for him. Even
though wants a complete piece of shit. I mean,
there's no one anyway So yeah Walt's Anyway this
episode has everything folks it really Ozymandias
has everything you could want from this series.
It's got all I can't even find a note in here
that that I wrote down that I didn't like any
part of this episode because uh... what everybody
has about two rights i mean maria that was skyler
that you know waltz has been caught but they
realize fairly quickly that that doesn't and
then you know walt junior ends up this government
was through the bed his dad's you know that's
what i was going to tell the style or that he's
just as bad research is just as she's just as
bad yeah The end of the, you know, by the end
of this, you know, he go, cause Walt is like,
oh no, it's okay. We still need to leave, get
everything in it together. Well, and Walt Jr
goes off on him and they have, they all have
a big old fight and whatever else. And yeah,
and Walt ends up getting into a knife fight and
cutting Skyler and junior ends up on the, excuse
me, on the phone with the police and everything
else. And, and Walter takes Holly. and all my
god just what the fuck walt oh my god at least
he had the common sense to leave her at the fire
station well the end of this is amazing where
walt walt calls her and he's got to pretend that
he's angry with her but he's you know brian kranston's
acting is perfect as he cries the entire time
because in reality he knows you know it's over
and the The jig is up. Everybody knows his life
is over And the last you know, in theory the
last conversation he's gonna have with his with
wife who he does legitimately love but his last
conversation with her is him, you know calling
her a bitch and just being you know mean to her
just so that it kind of takes the It kind of
takes the Sting out of it. Yeah. Well that and
like she doesn't seem guilty It takes the eyes
off of her and makes it seem like she wasn't
going along with it, as well as we get some really
good work from Betsy Brandt, who of course, in
the same phone call, discovers that her husband's
dead. Again, I'm finally enjoying Marie, that
they're actually letting her... In on what's
going on that she's not kept in the dark because
of that her character changes She doesn't become
this what to me she has been this whole time
was this just you know Oblivious little housewife
that that doesn't want to see the worst than
anybody And she's finally coming around and like
it my note was about her was wow she's gotten
a backbone now. That's great So Granite state
the next episode which completely broke me, but
anyway I think it broke everybody so We get to
the last moments of humor. I think for it as
soul Goes to be disappeared as well in a neat
you know non -decontinuity sol says you know
if he's lucky you'll be managing a Cinnabon in
Omaha which for writers or writers which for
people who have watched Better Call Saul no that's
exactly what happens to them uh but anyway um
yeah i mean Walt tries to set threaten uh sol
but at this point He is so ill he just goes into
a coffin fit. Yeah, it's all just walks away
And then What's wrong with you so Jack and the
gang steal the confession tape for Jesse and
You know Todd wants him alive so that He can
impress Lydia and They threatened Skyler and
Holly But You know that's only to keep Lydia
out of it again, this is Todd working for her
yeah, and You know Jesse's cooking and now it's
92 % purity and it's blue and Etc etc. So meanwhile
Jesse escapes feeling that you know he has nothing
left to lose you know he gets caught and then
Todd you know kills Andrea in front of Jesse
and threatens to kill Brock and everything is
awful yeah so this episode was horribly depressing
yes it was And yeah, I mean so I mean Walt ends
up going with the disappear and he's horribly
lonely In the end he calls Walt jr At the school
and Walt tells him, you know, just hurry up and
die so Walt's lost everything at this point and
then he sees you know Elliot and Gretchen talking
about how well, you know Walter was never really
involved with us as they have to deliver a 28
million dollar contribution for drug rehab so
that you know and that gets Walt's ego back in
gear and he flees before the police get there
because I mean he had you know called the DEA
so he could get nabbed and we end with him just
not being at the bar yeah This was also a near
perfect episode. It was completely different.
It slowed things down completely, but it worked
really well. And they got Robert Forrester as
a guest star. He's the Disappearer, which is
really neat. Yes, love him. Yeah, a good get
for them. This yeah this season these last few
episodes were amazing and now we have the finale
which is felina, which is the What's it? It's
the chemical composition to something as well
as You know if you rearrange the letters, it's
finale. Yeah, there's a number of different things,
but Yeah it's it's pretty awesome all the way
through um it it's got everything pretty much
yeah and onto the finale i mean walt steals the
volvo he arranges uh and by the way all right
this was probably the last funny bit as You know
Walt recruits Badger and skinny Pete's to point
those are pointers at the Schwartz's so that
he can explain to them that Yeah, so he can explain
to them that you know they have to give all this
money to Walt jr. And Holly and See here before
it was revealed that it was them here. I thought
he really went out and bought like at least four
or five sharpshooters because again the way that's
the only way that scene is done is he asks them
although windows east facing and you've got window
reflection so a few times when the laser pointers
were moving i thought it was two or three guys
not just just i thought it was more than just
two guys uh... But to find out that it was Patrick's
kid, I'm like, oh my god, Walt! Yeah, so I mean,
and then that's also when he discovers that Jesse's
still alive, because somebody's cooking blue
meth, and he realizes it can only be, you know,
Jesse Pinkman. Yep. So I mean, Walt goes, he
buys the machine gun at this point, we get all
that, and then he has a meeting or intercepts
a meeting with Todd, and... for the uh... it
was a nice touch because he mentions that you
know lydia and this is something mike had said
earlier that lydia is very much a creature of
habit she does the meets meetings at the same
place the same time every week and she uses i
will never ever my entire life every student
so now could be racing so yeah exactly i was
wondering i was wondering when he went back to
the house when we have the heisenberg thing i
was wondering why he went back for the rice and
obviously now we know but for the slow -mo for
pouring it in a kind of figure that okay yeah
absolutely signed her death warrants Yeah, well
because where Walt was at the time you got a
notice and I noticed this I didn't really realize
this at the time, but while I was watching but
I notice it now Walt walks in and goes over to
the counter for a few minutes as she and Todd
are talking and then he turns around and Because
she'd only had one thing of stevia already over
there and the guy the the waiter guy comes over
And she says oh, yeah more stevia And so Walt
was at the counter. I was like, wait, when did
he? Because you're right, when she's pouring
it in, we know. But I was like, wait, oh, that's
when he's just like, wow. Walt, you crafty, crafty
bastard. So we get the final sort of conversations
for everybody. So hey, Marie tells. Skylar that
waltz is in town, but she doesn't know that you
know waltz in the room and we have one of my
favorite conversations of the whole series so
a Won't give Skylar the lottery ticket Which
has the coordinates for Hank and Gomez's bodies
bodies desert and then be You know, he finally
admits it was all for him. Yeah that he did it
because he enjoyed it He was good at it, and
it made him feel alive. And I really like that,
that finally Walt has to face the fact, you know,
his whole, I'm doing this for my family stuff
was all bullshit. And, you know, he gets to see
Walt Jr. from afar, but obviously he can never
ever talk to him again. And just, it's nice,
because I shouldn't say it's nice. Fine, I don't
care. It's nice for me because I mean it shows
that you know Walt's lost everything Yeah, you
know his son is gonna hate him for all time his
daughter is probably going to grow up hating
him as well And just yeah, he's it's all gone
and We you know flash forward to Walt's meeting
with Jack and everybody else machine gun bitch
I wish he would have said that Jesse didn't know
about it, but I Jesse had his last bitch in the
last episode But anyway, yeah, so You know Walt
sort of draws things out a little by bringing
up Jesse and Jack You know orders having him
brought out now whether or not Walt did it just
to stall or because he wanted jesse dead as well
i think maybe he thought that jesse was working
of his own volition that what he was saying was
here and absolutely was going to kill him but
then he sees that you know it's not just yet
terrible condition well let's talk with this
is terrible condition first because for a minute
here because it's one of those things where i
forget which episode was i don't think it was
this one it was one where and paul was looking
almost directly at the camera he did the left
side of his face is in profile in the right side
of his face is kind of hidden i almost thought
that they pulled his eye out of the socket there's
a scene where it's like after they beat him up
there's a scene where he almost looks like two
-face because now they're not an evil arms almost
I didn't say, you know, just like, I said almost,
but yeah, no. You know, Walt sees how badly they're
treating Jesse and then I think that's when he
realizes, well, I might as well save him. Yeah,
so he dives on Jesse and then... Hits the button.
Yeah. I liked that Jack survives. And he tries
to kill him. Yeah tries to beg for his luck You
may want to talk here I was just waiting but
yeah I'm just dying Gotta stop doing that blue
meth, dude. I wish so I say it, Walt kills like
mid -sentence because he's trying to bargain
for his life. And we never find out where the
money is. No, and that's fine. You know, I don't
think he cares. And it's fine. It's not that
big of a deal because Walt dies anyway. But I
would have liked to have found out about the
money simply for Jesse. And before then we get
this extremely satisfying scene of Jesse choking
Todd to death. Oh, yes. Finally. And then, yeah,
Walt, you know, tosses Jesse a gun and asks him
to kill him. Yeah, and of course, Jesse, again,
his moral compass is higher than Walt's, so Jesse's
not going to, no, he's like, do it yourself.
I really, again, he could have had one more.
Do it yourself, bitch. No. And then Jesse's,
you know, it's also because Jesse's had enough
listening to Walt, so. Yeah, absolutely. Jesse
leaves and drives away. uh... this gilligan is
a couple times has gone on record saying well
he probably got caught let's be honest but well
imagine he didn't yeah and i mean jesse after
all this time finally deserves a happy ending
yep and uh... you know waltz gets the call from
todd's phone from lydia and tells her that she's
dead too and It's pretty much it. Jesse, you
know, looks at Walt and then drives off and then,
you know, Walt goes to the lab and dies. Yeah.
Yeah, Walt goes to the lab and dies. Fairly satisfying
ending. Like I said, Jesse wins, Walt loses.
I assume all the family members are gonna be
fine. Well, relatively, but yeah, I mean... Well,
I'm saying Skyler and Walt jr. And and Holly
and yeah You know Maria. Okay. Yeah, I mean obviously
Hank's dead Steve's dead all that but I mean
everybody else I Love how the internet will bring
up crap and assume crap just to assume crap to
see if they can get shit started about Two and
a half months, because I actually did watch the
finale when it was back during my first watch
through of the entire series on Netflix. So I
was watching these episodes as they aired, and
I did watch the finale, and I watched part of
the Chris Hardwick talking bad thing, not all
of it, but I watched part of it. And about three
or four or five months after that, people are
like, oh, Breaking Bad, season six, it's happening.
I'm like, no, it's not. Walter White is dead.
Well, yeah that always happens but you know,
he's deceased I mean Vince Gilligan said it'll
won't happen and If he were to ever do anything
it wouldn't involve, you know the white family
which of course it doesn't because he did end
up doing something and so now Yep, I mean Better
call Saul we see Saul after the conclusion of
Breaking Bad in these like Terribly depressing
black and white scenes because I mean he's just
crushed He was never happier than when he was
Saul and so yeah the series is him kind of remembering
How he became Saul while still being trapped
in his future slash present Yeah And I mean,
yeah, we'll see how that's all ends Yes, much
much later. We're going to comedies after this
folks. Oh my god I need a good turn -off -your
-brain comedy at this point. I enjoyed watching
through this series again. I still don't have
the same love for it as you do or the same love
for it that everybody else in America and Canada
have. No, but at least unlike before, I think
you acknowledge that it's really well -made.
Oh, it is. Yeah, absolutely. Which was always
my point. People have different tastes. It's
perfectly fine if people don't like it. just
that's great but you know at least like acknowledge
the fact that like man so much care went into
making every single shot it's the same with me
in video games like i'm not a huge fan of the
dark souls series but holy cow you know it's
really well made and a lot of effort is goes
into it And I can understand why people would
really like it. It just happens to not be for
me and that's sort of the same thing like there's
lots of Movies and TV shows I've watched and
I go, you know, that was really good. It's just
wouldn't be something I you know, normally Would
sit down and want to choose to watch Yeah, I
think when we eventually come back around to
doing better call Saul I think what I'm gonna
like about this the most Mike is back. It's because
before he's dead He dies in every episode. No,
I'm just kidding. Stop it. Don't even Well, they
wouldn't make much sense if he did anyway. Yeah,
no, that wouldn't make much sense at all Overall
I gotta give Breaking Bad zero to five star.
I gotta give it a four and a half There was like
maybe one or two moments that I just kind of
felt were there, but the rest of it, it's just
so good. I'm gonna stick with the, stick with
the five, I guess. I mean, I gave that to three
and four. The season's roughly on... Yeah. On
par, so... Yep. So that's our Breaking Bad coverage.
I have no idea what's coming up next for remote
control. I don't think I want to do this, but
Dodd asked us something off air about if we ever
done comedies on this show. We've done a little
bit, but not full -on season pass episodes for
comedies. I might dive into Two and a Half Men.
I don't know. I might. I might. I don't know
yet. I... i've saved the resources in case i
want to why don't you do it lead comedy like
frazier or cheers or something well yeah that's
gonna happen too because i'm in the middle of
watching cheers again i'm just saying i'm just
saying that i would you punish yourself with
something even more depressing than breaking
bad because when a comedy is bad uh... you can't
mystery science theater it's or anything like
that it's just depressing that's a bad show the
the best part of that show for me because i was
never a fan of two and a half men is uh... charlie
sheen passed his late mid to late nineties acting
career i'd not given a shit what the hell that
guy does uh... but season nine episode one when
they finally kill his character and uh... all
the guest stars and darman greg show up Thomas
Gibson and Jenna Elfman show up as their Dharma
grade characters. I thought that was hilarious,
but anyway. But yeah, no, we're probably gonna
go where everybody knows your name, or we'll
head out to Seattle to do something. I don't
know yet. I'm not sure what we're gonna do, but
comedies may be what's up next on the ballot
for remote control. Where can people find you
online, sir? Can I review something really funny
like Logan? No, I'm... Hey! I'm at nightbeats
on Twitter. No, it's a great movie, my point.
You know, the joke is that it's horribly depressing.
We're trying to go away from that now. I mean,
this is depressing enough. How about the shield?
That's a real laugh, right? If he didn't live
in Canada, folks, I'd be kicking him in the nuts
right about now. Yeah, that would be a good idea.
Yeah, I know, obviously. uh... god uh... seattle
you find me at tfg and mike on twitter you can
also fall at the cash for you at this we need
on twitter uh... just next time for whatever
the hell i don't know yet so to the next time
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Nah, I'm pretty sure. Actually, I'm pretty sure.
I mean, you said a bunch of times that, like,
Better Call Saul is it. Is it, yeah. He has no
real interest in continuing. And honestly, he
has to go on to something else. He really, like,
I really... Do dislike when certain creators
end up being pigeon -holed and oh, yeah, but
I mean, you know one note Yeah, at least in this
case. I think it was just because there was such
a demand for it and then well, right Yeah in
his defense of it too as well. I mean he It's
better call Saul feels completely different than
Breaking Bad Does it's a very different show
at least? But yeah, it would have been easy for
him to just do the same thing again, but it's
a lot less dramatic There's a lot less tension
to it. It's not Yeah, yeah, and that's a good
thing because I The biggest person I I come up
with that has a one -note career is Lucas because
until he sold his soul to the mouse Let's face
it unless you're an Indiana Jones fan unless
you've seen American Graffiti or thx every when
you soon you hear the name george lucas every
earth and star wars you know heaven forbid Vince
Gilligan end up being like george lucas and goes
back and tries to change I don't think you will
thank god he's smarter than george but I think
it's tough just because there would be tougher
for him to though because uh... he does have
x -files under his cap Mean all of the good years
of x -files were him not Chris Carter Whether
people know that or not, but I mean he was the
lead writer for Quite some time on the show.
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