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Transformers: Age of Extinction Review

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About this Episode

The panel reviews the box office performance of Transformers: Age of Extinction and shares their thoughts on the film. They also discuss casting rumors for Hail Caesar and Rambo 5, analyze the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles trailer, and run through their favorite and least favorite movies of 2014 so far. Finally, they look ahead to the films they are most anticipating for the remainder of the year.

Hi, this is Stan Bush, and you're listening to

the Geekcast Radio Network. Fighting the war

for Cybertron, till all are won. Today on MY

Weekly, we'll be discussing the new TMNT trailer,

the next 80's property to receive a Reboot. The

beginning of the end for the Fantastic Four and

we'll give you our picks for the best film so

far from 2014 and what we are looking forward

to most in the second half of the year. All that

and more coming up on MWire Weekly. Alright,

thanks for sticking with us and as we do every

week we will begin this week's... episode of

MY Weekly by looking at the box office from this

past weekend and there was a pretty clear -cut

first place movie at the box office this past

weekend and that would of course be Transformers

Age of Extinction making just over 100 million

dollars which takes it just about halfway to

its budget in the first weekend alone. Rounding

up the top five was 22 Jump Street just under

16 million, How to Train Your Dragon 2 just over

13. Think Like A Man 2 just over 10, and Maleficent

staying at the fifth spot just like it was last

week with just over 8 million. Thoughts on anything

at the box office, Transformers being number

one, or any of that other stuff, Nate or Matt?

This sounds stupid. Yeah, that. It's not surprising,

but did it really have to get more money than

anything else this year in its first weekend?

You know what's more stupid? Is that no it made

a hundred million dollars sure whatever made

hundred million dollars it cost two hundred million

dollars to make Yeah, that's not crazy like that's

what like cap cost It took more money to make

that than any other movie. That's currently in

the theater. I believe Because the closest would

be x -men at 200 million and transformers cost

210 Yeah, Michael Bay doesn't make things cheaply.

That's the thing that's ridiculous, though. If

you think about it, it's like... It only cost

them $10 million more. Did you see how many more

CG was in the Transformers? Like, the trailer

has more CG than all of the X -Men movie. And

what that budget is not is paying actors and

actresses, because outside of Mark Wahlberg and

a couple people, Kelsey Grammer... Not Kelsey

Grammer. Who's Kelsey Grammer in this? This is

in the other ones. And Stanley Tucci and a couple

other people. It's not like it's a huge cast

or anything. It's a pretty limited cast. Just

a lot of effects and a lot of CG. And if you

haven't seen it yet, my suggestion would be to

avoid going to the late showing. I thought you

were going to say avoid going to see it. Well,

I would do that probably as well. Why would you

avoid the late showing? Well, see, my friend

Joel wanted to go see this movie with me very

badly and he was going to be upset if I went

and saw it without him like I do with a lot of

other movies. So we were trying to figure out

a time and we didn't really have a time that

was coming up that was going to jive. And then

I was like, well, this was last Thursday. I was

like, well, it's actually opening up on Thursday.

So there's showing it like six different times.

There was like a 10 .30 and 11 .30 at midnight.

like multiple show ins at both theaters near

us so we're like he's like well yeah let's do

it let's do it and I'm like okay yeah 1130 that's

like not even a midnight show it's like even

earlier than normal like midnight show in so

that'll be fine so like we went there Paid for

tickets, went in, sat down. We were just chilling

for a minute while the trailers were going. And

Joel turns to me and he's like, how long is this

movie? I'm like, you know what? I honestly don't

even know. So I pulled out my phone, brought

up a Fandango or whatever, and just about spit

out everything that I had just drank from my

pop when I figured out that the movie was two

hours and 45 minutes long. Jeez. Because then

I did the math and realized that I was gonna

be at the movie theater once the previews were

done in the movie I actually started until about

2 30 in the morning When I had to work at like

8 o 'clock the next morning, so I definitely

got three hours of sleep that night I Don't know

why it's two hours and 45 minutes long No, and

I haven't read anybody online that gives me a

valid reason for it being that long We'll get

more into that later a little bit when we talk

about My feelings about the movie in the main

attraction part But not surprised because every

one of the Transformers films that have come

out have done amazing to the box office That's

why they keep doing it. That's why Michael Bay

thinks he's doing something good Because he's

making a crap ton of money. So whatever I guess

Maleficent just went over the 200 million mark

milestone for that film and Spider -man Finally

went over the 200 million mark as well. I said

it was gonna happen and it happened. Yay So that's

good Yeah, not not a bunch of other milestones

fault in our stars for a kind of a younger crowd

romance type drama Has made over a hundred million

now too, which is kind of interesting And how

to turn your dragon to Nate staying at the third

spot for two weeks in a row. So that's not bad,

you know It's not quite at its budget yet domestically,

but that's not going to be a problem. So it's

sitting at 121 million. Not a bunch of big drops

or rises outside of maybe I think like a man

to drop 65 % from the first spot last week down

to the fourth spot this week, which is kind of

weird since there was no other new films. Like

it was obvious that Transformers was going to

take the one spot, but I think like a man went

from one to four and the two and the three stayed

the same. But no real huge shockers there. Anything

else box office -wise that you guys wanted to

bring up? Just that Captain America is number

one now. Yeah, going over the, if you're looking

at the total year, Captain America, The Winter

Soldier is 200, well not quite 200 ,000 ahead

of the LEGO movie. So we have a new number one,

Captain America, then the LEGO movie, then X

-Men, then Maleficent, then Spider -Man. I'm

glad Godzilla's out of the top five, because

screw that movie. Godzilla will no longer be

mentioned in the top five, so Transformers is

already 13th for the year. Right behind How to

Train Your Dragon 2 and Rio 2. So those two movies,

it looks like Lego movies so far as far as animated

films is gonna reign supreme for the year. Unless

something comes out of nowhere. I guess maybe

The Big Hero 6, is that what it's called? Maybe

has a chance, I don't know. But we'll have to

see. So yeah, Captain America, the new number

one. Getting into some of the headlines today,

there's not a lot of new stuff, but a few items

here. First on the Fantastic Four, as I mentioned,

possibly the beginning of the end for the Fantastic

Four in my book. Not that I was excited about

anything about this film up to this point. But

there is a news article here saying that the

film might be using the good old found footage

technique. What got the guy famous? Yeah, that

is what got the guy famous. That's You know Josh

Trank The director when he did Chronicle and

stuff like that, but can you see this working

in? This property Nate or Matt I have it. I have

an opinion Nate you go I don't have an opinion

on this. It's like - Oh, I have - Yeah. There

is one place where it works, then. There's only

one place where it works. And that's if fuckin'

Johnny Storm, who is not the same color as Susan

Storm for some reason, if he's like, recording

and he's like, we're still on the spaceships,

and then like, and then it has that, and he's

like, you know, it's following them, and you

get very little of him. And then the whole, you

know, thing happens, they come down to Earth,

and then this shows them getting their powers,

and then it immediately stops doing that for

the rest of the movie. That's the only way I

could see it working. I don't like found footage

things. I don't either, but, I mean, that's the

way it would work. Like, found footage is so,

like, is dumb in movies when, like, a movie is

obviously a fake thing. And it's like, oh, we

found this footage, and we put it together, and

it's supposed to... It worked with the Blair

Witch Project, and then everyone realized that

that was also fake, and then it stopped being

a thing that... It's a type of technique that

seems like it can only be done once and actually

have the effect that you are wanting it to have.

It's like you have to go into a movie and not

know anything about it, and then go like, oh,

does this actually happen? But that's never gonna

happen, especially with... People on the internet

that look up movies way too often Yeah, I just

I just don't see this being a good sign for the

fantastic four yeah that As a franchise that

needs a lot of help to get people's interested

in it I think compared to some of the other superhero

franchises like for some reason with that franchise

It just seems like it takes more to get people

interested, and I don't think that is going to

help Also, it kind of shows how limited that

Frank guy is if that's all he does Right, if

you can't adapt to a different type of film or

whatever. Maybe they'll get them for paranormal

4 .5 or something. There we go. Alright, next

up on our headlines, Chicago has been selected

as the location for a George Lucas -backed Star

Wars museum. It beat out San Francisco and Los

Angeles. Lucas's wife is from Chicago and it'll

be... 17 acre lakefront plot that's going to

exhibit Lucas's collection of film memorabilia

and artwork including a full -scale model of

the Millennium Falcon. Spending 700 million of

his own money to build the museum. It's good

when you have 700 million of your own money that

you can just use to build your own personal museum.

It's a museum to him! And it's going to create

hundreds of local jobs. Oh, that's good. Yeah,

it's going to be a lot of different stuff, though.

It says, I mean, it'll have Norman Rockwell paintings,

some industrial light and magic stuff, Darth

Vader costumes. or the costumes. I mean it'll

be interesting to see what it has. I'm super

happy that it's going to be so close because

that will allow me to go there. Very easily and

we should all make a trip there. No, I'm going

to be doing that probably yearly. Yeah, I mean

it doesn't, it says... Oh my gosh, can you imagine

the fourth of, or the May the fourth? Oh geez,

I will not be going that day. It's expected to

open sometime in 2018. So we have a little bit

of time to wait for it. I just think that's cool.

The whole idea of a Star Wars museum is like,

oh, why doesn't that exist already? So I'm all

about it, as most geeks around the world should

be. As far as sequels and remakes, a couple things

here. Starting off with Pacific Rim 2. Del Toro

will be returning for that so he'll be the man

in charge and it is set to be released in 2017.

I think most people would be happy or excited

to know that we'll get to see a little bit more

of Pacific Rim since it seemed like it got a

pretty favorable review and whatnot from the

geek and nerd and pop culture focused people

like Everybody seemed to like that movie. I didn't

hear a whole lot of negative stuff. You guys

both saw it. You guys both liked it. What do

you think about the second one coming out? It's

gonna be good. Yep, I'm excited for it. I watched

a YouTube video where Del Toro said something

like, it's gonna be like following the same storylines

that the comics were following. I haven't read

those. He's like, we're gonna pick up where the

comics left off and go from there. Okay, it was

it was him specific. It was just him in front

of a camera talking So I mean you can't it's

like that's not even rumor at that point. Yeah

So there's that if you're excited about those

I heard also something about an animated show.

Yeah, I think they plan to do that right after

That's cool, but we'll see what happens because

I mean they specifically said that that was the

point of Van Helsing was the launch the animated

Van Helsing TV show and then that got And episode?

Right. So there's always plans for TV shows and

cartoons and whatnot, but it's just much harder

to do that, it seems like, than to do a movie.

It also doesn't help if you kill off all of your

antagonists in the pilot of the movie. That's

true. Although that's what Transformers 3 did.

Anyway. Oh no, you're spoiling it for us! Oh

no! Oh no! No, this is Transformers 4 that just

came out. No, I know. I haven't seen it either.

Oh, okay, gotcha. Well, I'm not as full in it,

trust me. As far as news about... Star Trek wasn't

thick enough. Yeah, news about Star Trek for

Star Trek fans and maybe good news for those

people that maybe weren't as huge on the last

two films even though I don't see some of the

issues that many of them saw. But it looks like

it's going to have a little bit of a different

feel here. Star Trek III is going to be more

set in deep space, more close to bringing those

characters to what people were used to in the

original series. Coming from Roberto Orsi that

the last two films were more so like origin films,

kind of getting... the story together as far

as how they came together, everybody's background,

but that this third film will be closer to the

original series where you actually have the crew

off in space doing some type of deep space adventure.

Matt, I know you're a big Star Trek fan. What

do you think as far as that direction for how

that franchise goes? I thought that the second

one was a step in that direction. I mean, the

opening scene alone is way more like the original

series than the entire first movie was. And so

I am both hopeful that I think that they can

do it and I'm looking forward to it. I mean,

that was the, you know, space to find my friends

here. It's Five Year Mission. Let's get on that.

Right, it's time for the five -year mission to

begin. I don't know if I've ever asked you, but

what was your opinion on the last Star Trek film,

Matt? You did ask me a couple of episodes ago,

but I'm more than willing to repeat myself because

I love my voice. I love it. It was great. You

know, there are some things that I have a problem.

I have problems with every movie. I don't think

there's very few movies that I can say are perfect.

But it was very enjoyable. I saw it in theaters

at least once and I would watch it anytime anyone

wanted to. You didn't have as much of a problem

as a lot of quote -unquote Trekkies had. A lot

of people kind of yelled about it not being unique

enough, not being original enough, and copying

too much on the old stuff, which I didn't have

that problem watching it. I did not feel like

You know if anything I would say there were too

many homages Like because I don't think they

were ever like copying anything. I was like hey

like hey Like this is something that happened,

but it's happening different in a in our universe

Which is something you have to address if you

have a reboot That's like an alternate universe

rather than just in its straight reboot I think

if it was a straight reboot I would be upset,

but since they're like yeah, these are all of

the same guys Slightly different circumstances

have brought them to the same moment Like it

makes sense Yeah, and I was with you. I didn't

have I didn't have the problem that a lot of

people did either But I like the idea that you

know they finally get on their five -year mission

then go off there and have a more classic Star

Trek type Story or plot going in there Nate I

know you're not huge on on Star Trek. Have you

any interest in this third one? Whatever it'll

it'll come out and I'll probably end up seeing

it because Megan really like Star Trek. So That's

you know, I don't know Megan she's like them

all like all the way back to the earlier stuff

except for probably not the originals Yeah, actually

I think she I mean she's definitely more of a

next -generation She's mostly Voyager. Yep Janeway?

Speaking of what I teased in the opening about

some 80s reboots, we've got two of them coming

up here. First off being the Predator franchise

and that the next chapter in that franchise will

not be a reboot but instead will be a sequel.

So Shane Black, saying that it's going to be

a sequel to the last film, I am not huge on knowledge

about the Predator. Franchise are either of you

guys? I want to say yes, but no I mean like I

I Know the original movies. I watched the original

movies. I didn't know they rebooted it Because

you really didn't need to And I know a lot about

the toys Gotcha, but I don't know about this

newer stuff I mean, I don't know, some things

I get that they don't want to deal with all the

stuff that's happened in the other films, so

they go the reboot direction and just kind of

hit reset and let's start all over. Sequel's

always make it more interesting though to see

how they're going to connect or how they're going

to miss things or do things right in regards

to the continuity that already exists, but I

just wasn't a huge on... the Predator films when

I was growing up, so I can't really speak too

much to it. Nate, did you ever watch all the

Predator films? No, I probably wasn't allowed

to. That's true. My favorite thing about the

Predator films is actually a joke from The Daily

Show when Arnold Schwarzenegger became the governor,

because Jesse Ventura and then Arnold Schwarzenegger,

both of which were guys in that movie that then

got political roles. So they made a joke about

how the next person from that movie to get a

political role was going to be the Predator,

and he's going to be Senator Predator. And I

really enjoyed that joke. And they had a Photoshop

of the Predator in a suit and everything. It

was great. I'd watch that movie. And the other

80s franchise that was big in the 80s would be

Rambo. And the rumor is that Sylvester Stallone

will be returning for Rambo 5. And that the plot

will do something about Rambo battling a Mexican

cartel. Didn't the article say something like

it was going to feel more like a different movie?

Yes. Stallone has written a script liking it.

to No Country for Old Men in terms of tone. That

sounds awesome. That sounds impossible. Have

you seen No Country for Old Men, Matt? I have

not seen No Country for Old Men. Alright, we

need to watch that one. It's nothing like Sylvester

Stallone or Rambo has ever been. All I know is

that if he's fighting the drug cartel, can we

get it to be Danny Trejo to be the villain? Oh,

I would watch it. I just want to know what the

obsession is lately with - all the films wanting

to now go against Mexico or Mexican gangs or

Mexican cartels. All the films. All of them.

All of them. No, no, but there's been like, there's

been trends in, if you, if you trace film history,

like during the Cold War, every film, every video

game went against Russians or Soviets or communist

countries. In the new Call of Duty, you fight

the South America. That's what I'm saying. We

went from all of the communist blocs, and then

we had a time where it was all Middle Eastern

things that were the bad guys and everything,

games, movies. It seems like there's been a shift

where they're throwing a lot more South America,

Central America, Mexican... filling plots or

drug cartels or this that and the other and I

don't that is weird I hadn't noticed this trend

but I've talked about the the other idea you're

talking about where it was Nazis and communists

and then terrorists and like I wish we had and

you know I don't want to be like we should have

another world war two but I wish we had a new

form of the Nazis where it was like we can hate

this thing and it's okay and we could just abuse

it media because like that worked so well back

when we had very clear cut enemies we need to

have an alien invasion because I actually got

to go ahead well because definitely if aliens

came uh around here we would we would shoot him

first and ask questions later and then they don't

speak our language so we wouldn't even we wouldn't

even feel bad for killing them so they'd be like

nazis even though they didn't do anything bad

Pretty much. I subscribed to what Stephen Hawking

said about aliens, which is that if aliens showed

up on Earth, it'd be a lot like the time we showed

up at America when it was just the natives, where

it's like, hey, we've got all this technology.

We can do things you can't do, and we're taking

this. But we're going to make you think that

we're not. So yeah, that's the mistake. All the

films that depict aliens, it's like they come

in, and it's very blatant that there's some type

of thing. I think it would be more like what

you're saying where it's like, they'd come in

and act like everything's cool. I'm like, we're

going to do some deals and come to some agreements.

And then all of a sudden Americans, or not just

Americans, but humans would be like, whoa, whoa,

we just got squeezed out of everything. What

just happened? But I actually did a very interesting,

I had a project in college where I had to do

a whole, I don't know if you want to call it

a term paper, but on the whole idea of. the communist

slash whatever effect that I had on pop culture

and in the media and I got to research and look

at for like a lot of movies and TV shows and

video games and and everything that kind of depicted

that and it was kind of interesting to see how

much that just naturally whether it's meant to

or not whether it's intentional or not how much

it just like Seeps into all parts of your society

when something like that's going on. Yeah And

I don't know I don't know if it's all about like

our little Little border issue that's been going

on lately where people are gravitating to that

as just I don't know but I'm interested to see

if it continues or or what the new trend is but

Rambo 5 I guess I would have had to have liked

all the other Ramos to be interested in Rambo

5 But I'm just not a big Sylvester Stallone fan,

so I haven't seen all the Rockies and I haven't

seen all the Rambos. Does that make me not a

really good segue there? Does that make me not

American? What was the segue? The fact that you

were just like, yada yada aliens, yada yada Nazis

and Rambo fans. Also, as far as casting goes,

we got a couple different things casting wise.

The Coen Brothers that we had talked about a

few episodes ago that they were producing a film

called Hail Caesar. And some of the cast members

that will be involved in that have been kind

of making their ways into the rumor mills. Josh

Brolin was going to be starring role in the project,

but we also got that Channing Tatum, Tilda Swinton,

and Ralph Fiennes will all be... in that film

as well. So that'll be interesting. I don't know

exactly what the story is going to completely

consist of, but it's something to do with Hollywood

in the fifties and someone who was a quote unquote

fixer. What's your thoughts? My thoughts? Where's

my Caesar movie about Caesar? You need to stop

taking titles so literally. Dude, I'm done. I'm

done with these movies. They're all like, like

the next movie is going to be all like, the Muppet

Babies return! And it's going to have no Muppets

or no babies. And it's going to be like, wow,

why are we, we just, it's almost as bad as the

Transformers. Right. Yeah, but it is the Coen

brothers, so they're kind of they like to do

that They like to do stuff that makes not a lot

of people understand it right away I Don't know

I'm always interested to see what they do I don't

like all of their stuff, but some every once

while they strike gold so Nate you like the Coen

brothers. Don't you love it? Thanks for asking

no problem I don't know, I have nothing of it,

but I like them. That's sometimes all you need.

We also talked about Ridley Scott's next film

being a film called The Martian, a new sci -fi

film coming out soon. And it's been said now

that Matt Damon will be starring in that film.

So Matt Damon and Ridley Scott pairing up together.

So I don't have much to say about it because

I really don't know much about it except for

that it's going to have to do with Mars landing.

Martians holy shit. It has to do with Mars and

Martians See it just Throwing it back at you

right after you said that I know a lot of people

thought that early Scott was gonna just be doing

the next Prometheus But he is doing this one

in there in between so Or unless somebody different

is gonna direct Prometheus 2 or whatever. It's

gonna be called But I'm mom down for Matt Damon

doing some science fiction stuff because I usually

like him in those types of roles So yeah, that's

fine More people Being rumored to be dr. Strange

this time. It's Edgar Ramirez Who I don't really

know much about Yep, but That's interesting I

guess Kevin take this seriously I just like to

do a show here. No, but like literally like there

is there is like big parts and like Batman for

example or you know back when the Joker came

in the Dark Knight or whatever there's like certain

parts that like there's casting rumors but it

seems like that's like one or two people and

then we just that we get it like I don't know

if I've ever seen more names thrown out about

a role than I've seen so far about Doctor Strange

which is funny like we don't even know this movie's

coming out right but they've literally like had

rumors about like six or seven or eight people

so far about playing this role like well it's

a very important role it will change the landscape

of comic book movies it's really not um you know

what you know the only thing you need to know

about Edgar Ramirez because i just i just imdb'd

him he's gonna be in the point break remake nice

okay something that i know nathan will appreciate

what Nathan Fillion. Doing what? That should

be all I have to say. Okay, good. Set for a cameo

in Guardians of the Galaxy. Whoa! He's gonna

be in it for a bit? That's the rumors. That was

sarcasm, right? A little bit. Okay. He had initially

been linked to the... Am I reading this right?

The role of Nova? Yeah, Nova Prime. But it says

the meteor part. Oh, I guess. Meteor. More than

cameo. Gotcha. That's a thing. But yeah, he did

confirm that it was a very small, fun cameo.

Is he going to be playing him like his character

from Firefly? Because that would be hilarious.

I mean, it could be just him voicing somebody.

I don't know. That's true. The Firefly Serenity

comics were published by Dark Horse, so I don't

know if Marvel's allowed to. Oh, oh yeah. I don't

know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't

know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't

know. That was my whole high school, telling

everyone Firefly is the most amazing show I've

ever seen. You need to go and watch this. And

then about a decade later, everyone realized

that it was the greatest show. That's it for

the casting. We haven't had a lot of delay talk

in recent episodes, but this one would be a big

one. I don't think it's actually going to happen,

but it would be somewhat funny if it did. I don't

know if you'd call this funny. Well, no, not

for a different reason. But there was a story,

obviously, that we reported about Harrison Ford

breaking his leg, or his ankle, or his foot,

or whatever he broke. On set, dealing with the

Millennium Falcon, apparently not as nimble as

he was back in the day. But there was a story

that came out this past week about it possibly

causing Star Wars Episode 7 to be delayed from

its initial December 2015 release date. The only

reason that would be hilarious is because when

they initially came to a decision on their release

date as late 2015, there was a domino effect

of about six or seven different movies evacuating

that time period. The whole month. Yeah, like

they just were avoiding any, like within 60 days

of that happening, it's like that's not a good

time to bring a movie out. Especially right after

it. Maybe not as much, you know, only the week

or two before it, but you don't want to come

out the second, third, fourth week after this

film comes out. So a lot of movies change places,

so if it all of a sudden delayed and switched

to a different date, it would just be funny to

watch all the studios do what they're going to

do as they try to strategize. when they don't

want to come out. It's pretty much gotta be one

of the biggest swing, like the franchise that

has the biggest swing as far as when it comes

to theatrical releases. There's not many that

scare people more than Star Wars. Terrifying.

People don't want to compete against that. I

mean, I don't think you would want to compete

against the next Avengers or something like that

as well But but Star Wars is just a just a different

animal So I just find that to be funny if they

would delay it, but I don't I don't know if they'd

necessarily need to delay it I'm sure there was

all kinds of other stuff that they could do without

needing Harrison Ford unless he's playing a huge

part But I don't know well, they always said

the rumors always said that he was likely gonna

play a big part Yeah, so maybe maybe some of

those rumors are true. I don't know So that is

it for the actual news stuff into the trailer

talk a little bit There was a few trailers released

in this last week the last of Robin Hood, which

Bad boo, which Matt probably wouldn't like because

it's not necessarily a lot to do with Robin Hood

That was the first Errol Flynn. That was the

first one. I open I was like Robin Hood. Yes

Errol Flynn did play Robin Hood. That's what

Nate said. I don't know who that guy is, but

I don't care Furi, the war film starring Brad

Pitt there. The Prince, Affluenza, The Purge

Anarchy, The Guest, Child of God, Life After

Beth, Into the Storm, Dracula Untold, The Disappearance

of Eleanor Rigby, Spare Parts, and another new

trailer for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Before

we talk about turtles, any of the other trailers

that you guys watched, Nate, that caught your

interest in a good or bad way? probably the Dracula

one that one is like it might be cool I'm hoping

it'll be really good but it looks like it will

be like average to good I don't know like the

best part of the trailer is when he punches the

ground with bats I think I just think Okay, I

think I'm on the exact opposite side of Nate

where it's like yes This is this is what I want

from a Dracula movie, and I don't know about

these bats punching things. That's kind of weird

I think it's a really cool visual. I just don't

know if that's what I want in my Dracula movie

All right, but I don't know man this I'm excited

I'm a lot excited. I like how they had the Nosferatu

looking dude. Yeah Yeah, that was cool Yeah,

I just think I don't know I didn't really know

much about that movie it was kind of not There

wasn't much about it at the beginning of the

year there wasn't any talk about it or maybe

Even knowledge about it, but I like the movie

posters that have come out for it I like the

trailer that came out for it. He seems like a

guy that fits the The role somewhat decent I

like the idea of having somewhat of an origin

story for Dracula and how that will play out,

so I don't know, I think it looks interesting.

I mean, it could be terrible like a lot of other

fantasy films have been lately, slash supernatural

slash whatever you want to term this one, but

I'm holding out hope that it might be okay. Cool.

Other trailers, Nate? This wasn't a very good

batch. Like, I don't know. It was definitely

a mixed bag. I was writing down everything and

this is literally... Like, it's like, meh. Gross.

Might be cool. Nope. It comes right down to stuff

next to him. Like, uh... The ones... Go ahead.

What was it? Fury. Fury has a really good cast.

But it doesn't... It doesn't look like a movie

I would be into. See, I'm the exact opposite...

Well, no, I'm not the exact opposite. That doesn't

make any sense. That made sense the last time

I said it. Shut up, Matt! I have a differing

opinion on Fury. I think it looks like a lot

of fun. I think that other than Dracula, that

was the one I was very much interested in. Yeah,

and there's been a lot of buzz. The ones that

have had the most buzz on this list would be

Fury and then the disappearance of Eleanor Rigby.

The one that's getting the most marketing is

Into the Storm, but there has been a lot of movie

people that have said... Had some excitement

for Fury and the Disappearance of Eleanor Rigby.

I'm with Matt. I think Fury looks pretty interesting.

Decent cast there, like you said, Nate. I like

that type of genre of film, so it could be something

good. Disappearance of Eleanor Rigby caught my

eye just because you have Jessica Chastain and

James McAvoy, who we just saw in X -Men. William

Hurd, Bill Hader. Viola Davis, so I mean it's

got a pretty pretty star -studded cast So I'm

sure it'll it'll get some buzz. I don't know

how much of I'll be into the story, but What

about I had never really heard much about the

whole life before Beth yeah, that one looks interesting

That again has a has an interesting cast too

that has a lot of up -and -coming people as well

as pretty well -established people so I mean

that could get a little buzz. Matt, you didn't

like this group of trailers? Generally no. I

mean like I said the last Robin Hood, not being

about Robin Hood, and the prince didn't even

have a prince in it. Eleanor Rigby didn't have

any Beatle songs in the trailer even. I was not

child god did not have the child god dot do that

in an open that one uh... wait a minute what

if it's the storm have a storm in it you did

that or track the untold and have directly what

does it until like the very end of the trailer

uh... one thing i really bother me uh... spare

parts uh... uh... you don't like the heartwarming

family movies uh... spare parts loop that was

probably uh... Trailer amongst the whole group

that got the quickest stop I Watched it knowing

exactly how the movie was going to end Well,

okay has two different ways to get at it can

either be like yeah, we won or hey cool running

Because it's been done a million times That's

exactly right. Hey with one, just like every

other one, or cool running, just promise. Yeah,

those are your two options with the coming from

behind, especially if it's like minority or underprivileged.

But Marissa Tomei's in that, and I only saw her,

I think she was either a mom or a girlfriend

of a guy. And then, gee. George Lopez, I want

to call him G lo. Oh, that's why I shut that

one. Oh, they call him G lo G lo he calls himself

that like J lo but it's G lo George Lopez So

I like George Lopez a little bit, um, sorry But

it's like he's playing they're like 60 year old

teacher looking guy and then she's playing someone

that could probably be one of their girlfriends

But like Marissa Tomei and George Lopez are in

the real world like three years apart in age

And that was funny to me. Oh, okay. Sorry, that

was a long way to go for something that was dumb.

That's no problem. I actually, I probably will

look a little more into The Last of Robin Hood,

even if it's not about Robin Hood, just because

it is about a real life, you know, Hollywood

actor. Also, Dakota Fanning looks like a lot

like Emma Stone in that. Yes, she does. And go

to Dakota Fanning getting three movies in a year

after nothing for a decade. or however long you

were gone. She looks like she's setting herself

up to be an actual actress and I think she might

be able to do it. The Errol Flynn movie definitely

makes it look like I might be interested because

after those two weirdo horror movie trailers

we watched, I was like, I don't know if I'm gonna

see anything. And it was one weirdo horror movie

and then like one weird sex movie. What about

the new Turtles trailer, which we actually got

to hear Megan Fox speak. She will have lines

in the movie, unfortunately. I was going to say,

is that a plus? I didn't think it was. I think

it would have been absolutely hilarious if she

actually would have had no lines in the movie.

It could be like a comic relief thing where every

time I'd talk to her she'd like about to be like,

and then, and then like an explosion happens

and she's like, ah. She passes out, she faints,

there's an explosion, somebody else comes in.

Besides that she actually speaks. The shots that

they showed of Shredder? Opinions? I thought

it was kind of cool, but I don't know. see at

first I'm like oh that is a really big and flashy

looking shredder that's somewhat maybe flashier

than I would expect and then he pulls out some

more stuff like then he just becomes even flashier

and more blady sharp the movie looks like it's

going to be so incredibly mixed. On one hand,

I want to say, hey, it seems like they have personalities

and they're kind of doing the turtles a little

bit right. But then they're like, the designs

are so terrible that it's just hard to watch

because they're so gross looking. And then also,

there's so much product placement in the trailer

that it just turns me off immediately. Apparently.

Through Pizza Hut, you're going to be able to

go online and order yourself a Donatello Pizza

or a Leonardo Pizza or a Raphael Pizza. Are they

just like really cool pizzas that look terrible?

Nah, I have no idea. They should look like the

turtles. If they look like the turtles, you have

to bring us one. My problem is not, I agree somewhat

with you Nate, that the designs of the turtles

are just bizarre for me. It's like gross, it's

like ehh. Honestly, I'm not saying that this

film has to be the same as like the 80s or the

90s films or whatever, like not necessary, but

you could have done an updated version of that

look even and not been that bad. Yeah, like I

still think the TMNT is like... Really underrated

when it comes to the turtles movies like no one

talks about it But it's really good and it has

like great designs great characters and I don't

know But it's honestly it's not even the turtle

designs that are gonna be what ruins this film

for me. I don't Know whoopie Goldberg. I'm fine

Yeah, I'm fine with that even though she's playing

her character is was a male in the original cartoon

But that's something that reboots do. They always

switch genders, so that's fine. That's just something

they feel like they need to do. But my problem

is really gonna be with Shredder. I don't think

I'm gonna get past it. Well, do you think he's

gonna be like, like, he's not gonna say a line

and he's just going to be like, I'm a monster

that you have to defeat? No, he's a white, oh,

he's a middle -aged white guy. Yeah, that's a

method. Is that the dude that's the guy? He's

in the suit? Yeah. Oh. Well, dang. Even if your

suit's crazy and super flashy and trying to be

modern and... I don't want to call that modern.

I just call that stupid. Well, I mean modern

in the way that it's just like, oh, we can do

this, so we're going to do it. We get too wrapped

up in what we can do and not think about what

we should do with the effects and the costume

and whatnot. But even all that would be fine.

But you can't just change... That is the essence

of the turtles. the origin of Splinter and Shredder.

Right. So that makes... I mean, you could have

the actual turtles come a bunch of different

ways and people would be able to accept it. They're

not still... They're still gonna be like genetic

freaks and not aliens, right? Right. Yeah, they

make a joke about aliens somewhere in one of

the trailers or teasers or something. So they

even made a way to make fun of that. But yeah,

I just... Middle -aged white guy cannot be Shredder.

I'm sorry. Alright. Doesn't make sense. You know

what else I have a problem with? Yes. It's written

by more than one person. That's always dangerous.

I don't know. Like, I mean, maybe two is okay,

but... Two if they're a team that has done a

lot of things together. Yeah, like the Coen brothers

or something. But like, three? Do you need that

third guy? Or if it's like, hey, you write the

beginning of this film. Right, right. I'll write

the end and we'll do a beautiful corpse of a

movie. And we'll put it all together later. It'll

save time and get this movie out faster. I don't

know. Matt, any excitement for the turtles? No,

for all the reasons you mentioned. Like, I'm

excited for it because I want to make a good

turtle movie and I don't think it's gonna be

it. This is the thing though, this is the weird

thing. There was a lot of films done back, not

a lot I guess, but there was films done back

in the day, which was a Wednesday. that were

off of cartoons or toys or whatever, that were

just terrible. You know, we know it. You know,

Masters of the Universe was pretty bad. A lot

of that stuff was bad. And it's so easy for them

now to make a modern version of it. Like, if

they did a modern version of Masters of the Universe,

it probably wouldn't be as bad as that. Like,

it would probably be an improvement. Sure. But

this is one of those things where I just feel

like it's gonna be the opposite where the original

Turtles movie that was actually good Mm -hmm,

and this is gonna be terrible, but I hope I'm

wrong and what's worse is this is just gonna

make a fortune Yep, do you think uh? Got a name

on it like Do you think people like 20 to 30

years from now are gonna watch like? Transformers

and like if this one really tanks if it's really

bad. They're gonna watch this and be like no

it has its charm Look like I don't know cuz probably

I'm I'm hoping by then all the copies of all

the transformers movies will have been destroyed

in some type of cataclysmic event We'll have

to start over in some way shape or form. The

new president will order all of the... It's weird.

I wanted to give the new president a name and

I immediately went to double Obama. Double Obama.

Oh man. Alright, well we're gonna take a quick

break and then we'll be back with what we've

been watching in our Look back at the first half

of the year and look forward to the second half.

So we'll be right back a truck dad Please tell

me you didn't spend our money on it. Don't worry

He did he spent my money 150 bucks of it as in

advance on your regular paycheck What regular

paycheck which you will get back when never we're

broke. I knew it sweetheart Could you please

not drive a wedge between employer and employee?

Hold on. I thought we were Look, I came up short,

okay? I had to buy her a prom dress. Do you want

me to deny her a prom dress? Might as well. You

denied her a prom date. No, I offered to take

her and chaperone. Nobody wants to go to the

dance with their dad. It's weird. It's not the

issue. Well, maybe it should be. Sweetheart,

your shorts are shrinking by the second, okay?

Cold water air dry, please. Alright, thanks for

sticking with us. As we said, we're going to

quick talk about some of the stuff we've watched

in the last week or so, and then we'll get into

our retrospective look back and look ahead. Nate,

what movies have you watched in the last week?

I didn't watch any movies. Alright. You guys

watch stuff on Friday. Well, what did we watch

on Friday? We watched two movies on Friday in

our quest to watch all the fantasy movies ever.

Right. Which we're actually catching up on because

they're not making anymore, I guess. Yeah, we're

like scrambling every week. Every week to get

as many as we can. We watched two things based

on fantasy writings, I guess you could say. Oh

yeah. And one terrible. Right. So first off,

we'll talk about the amazing one. Let's talk

about mazes and monsters. No. Shut up, Matt!

No, that was a terrible one. So, Maids and Machas,

for those of you not in the know, was a made

-for -TV movie starring Tom Hanks about the dangers

of Dungeons and Dragons. What year are we talking

about? Early 80s. A long time ago. Okay. So Tom

Hanks in his earlier days. Oh yeah, he looks

like he's fourteen. Is it what this was like

before even... 1982. Was that before his uh...

the one sitcom he was on that he had to like

dress Koshas every episode? Nevermind. I don't

know what that is. How did you even have knowledge

of that? There was no way you were allowed to

watch that. What? Why? Did you say he is cross

-dressing every episode it wasn't it was a really

cheesy sitcom Okay, Nate knows a lot about things

from bosom buddies. Yeah After bosom buddies

started it. I don't know if it was that Because

the bosom buddies was 80 to 82 so I was like

at the height of his popularity He did he did

bosom buddies for two years, and then he did

some he did like one episode of the love boat

one episode of taxi one episode of happy days

and Then he did and they did the hit movie mazes

and monsters Yeah, yeah, it was that role that

landed him in big castaway Failing ever since

like the basis and the monsters So it was bad?

It was terrible. Really bad, it was slow and

squatting and nothing happened. I got one thing

I could say about it that was good, which was,

except for one cut, I didn't know it was a TV

movie. Right? There was one cut where I did a

fade and I turned immediately to everyone sitting

around me. We had been watching for over an hour

at this point and I went, was this a made for

TV movie? And everyone goes... I don't know!

And then it comes back, and it fades back, and

he says the exact same line, and I went, oh no!

I hate that! I hate it when, like, stuff fades

out, and then they redo a line or something,

and it's like, oh, the audience obviously has

completely forgotten, because two minutes of

commercials is too much. Americans were stupid

in the 80s! They're stupid now! Ha ha! Ha ha

ha! That's ridiculous. Like, if you're watching

the movie, then you don't need that, and if you're

not watching the movie, then you don't need that,

because you're not watching it. Right. Um. But

yeah. The thing about it, though, is it's supposed

to be, like, The Dangers of Dungeons & Dragons.

It's based on a book that, like, is... is probably...

I think it's more in depth of, like... Like,

the game is making them do this, but all it seemed

is, like, this... Like he just had a terrible

upbringing and Like, you know, he couldn't he

had any grip on reality because his life was

so crappy yeah, dude, it was like he had like

an arguably abusive father and a drunk mom and

Like he was just like they're like, you don't

play that Duchess of Dragons at college And he's

like, yeah, dad, I'll do my studies. And then,

like, he does his work, and then he meets Amazing

Monsters Group, and he starts playing that, and

he still does all of his homework. Yeah. And

it's like, clearly the game is not the problem

here. Yeah. Yeah. It was not good. That's all

I can say. Fair enough. And the good one was?

Call the Conqueror. Kevin Sorbo. Kevin Sorbo.

Based on the character created by Robert E. Howard.

The guy who brought us Conan the Barbarian and

Solomon Cain and Red Sonja. Call the Conqueror

a dwarf. A barbarian who through weird circumstances

becomes a king. Very weird circumstances. That

scene was comedic at best. Oh man. It's just

like, the King is drunk and he's trying to kill

him. It's like, have you seen Game of Thrones?

It was like Game of Thrones shit. It's like,

hey, the King is going crazy, he's killing all

of his sons. Just like that Targaryen dude. But

then like, they all show up and then like, Kevin

Sorbo's like, dude, you need to not kill your

sons and then they get into a sword fight and

then he kills the King. And then, like, everyone's

like, I'm next in line! No, I'm next in line!

It's like, well, all the sons are dead, so it's

me! And then the king's all like, I'm not dead,

I'm giving it to Kevin Sorbo. And then he ends

up the crown, and then he dies. Oh man. And then

that's the system of rule from then on. And everyone's

cool with it. And then the whole movie is everyone

plotting to kill Kevin Sorbo for the whole movie.

Pretty much. It's great. It's fun. It's solid,

it's 80s and fantasy as hell. Whoa, 90s. Well,

okay. This one's actually 90s instead of just

something that's very 80s that the 90s just claimed.

But it feels way more like an 80s movie. It's

like watching the old Conan movie. And the fact

that it came out 15 years later is just easily

ignored because it doesn't look like it. Like,

it really does not. It has some pretty bad CG

in it. They wouldn't have done that in the 80s.

So should people watch this one or not? Totally.

Yeah. If you like fantasy things, if you like

barbarians, if you like people being pushed out

a window and set on fire by magic, this is the

movie for you. If you like creepy dragon ladies.

Creepy? I don't. Creepy dragon ladies? Yeah,

at the very end. Oh. Yeah. It was like creepy

demon lady, I thought. Sure. Yeah. Matt, did

you see any other films this past week? Uh, I'm

gonna say no. Nope. Um, I saw a few films this

last week. Made some trips to the Red Box. Um,

I saw Ride Along because it made a lot of money

and was supposed to be really funny. uh... and

i was getting to somewhat serious films at the

same time so much this will be good change of

pace and uh... i like kevin heart so that should

be a good choice and it just really wasn't funny

like it was funny not funny enough uh... i mean

kevin heart was funny and there's kevin heart

and uh... ice cube not a peace No, why do why

do all so many people struggle with that me and

myself included? I'm always like am I saying

the right ice? I'm just making sure it's not

the law and order guy. No, it's the other guy

Ice Cube, so I mean it was cool him and Kevin

Hart, you know Kevin Hart's trying to be a cop

so he just got accepted to the Academy and Ice

Cube is his Girlfriend's brother or fiancee's

brother, and he doesn't like him so He can heart

goes on a ride along with him to prove. He's

got what it takes to be a cop and madness ensues

Just not funny enough madness so I don't know

I guess maybe Kevin Hart is the sole reason why

some of these movies are making money because

I don't really see that that is the funniest

film of the year or I hope it really isn't because

if that's the funniest film of the year it's

not a good year for him. There's no way that's

the funniest film of the year when like neighbors

and well there's another big county at twenty

two jumpstreet like came out and you know like

like made crazy amounts of money well along a

crazy amounts of money as well okay the top ten

still well hey the point is uh... this has been

a really strong year for comedies in terms of

box office numbers i haven't seen any of them

because i don't pay for money i don't pay money

to go see comedies and theaters because com like

that isn't It doesn't change the experience when

you watch comedy on a big screen. No, you need

the bigger, it's funnier that way. There's more,

there's bigger laughs because it's a bigger screen.

There you go. Because then you see it with other

people that laugh and then it makes you laugh.

I don't know. And then I also saw a movie called

Joe? How was Joe? How's he doing? Joe is a film

starring the well -known thespian Nicolas Cage.

Awesome. I thought you were going to say Tara

Reid like last week. No, but in the same class

almost. No. I'm just kidding. But this was actually

one of those films that technically I guess was

released in 2013 but most people would list it

as a 2014 film because I think it was like released

in one festival or something in 2013. But it's

Nicolas Cage who is playing a ex -con and he

kind of finds himself in the role model type

role that seems redundant. A role model role

for a 15 year old that is just in a awful family.

I don't know where exactly this is supposed to

take place but somewhere in Mississippi in some

type of... I mean I had to have subtitles on

the entire film. Because it's really hard to

understand everybody that was talking in this

film But this kid is just in a Family that where

the dad's just a drunk abusive piece of poop

And his mom's just like a non Entity that just

kind of like fades into the wallpaper So, I mean

it's it's it's Nicolas Cage trying to steer this

kid in the right direction somewhat and also

tried to stay out of his own reckless habits

that has landed him in jail like a bunch of different

times. Kind of like a coming of age film on one

hand. I mean if people don't like to see like

real films as far as like real life in their

films then stay away from this one. I don't know,

Nicholas Cage was good in it. It was a decent

film. I don't necessarily think the ending was

done super well. I think the last... 15 to 20

minutes somewhat ruined the film a little bit

for me. But it is interesting. I'll give it that.

I was glad I could see it because I know a lot

of people are rating it real high for the year

and this way I can make sure that I am not ignorant

or out of the loop as far as this film goes but

I will not be ranking it in my top 10 once the

year is done. And the other film, which actually

I was pleasantly surprised at, because I was

completely expecting it to be awful, was a film

called Blood Ties. When I first saw the trailer

for it, I was actually somewhat interested in

it. But there was really nothing good said about

this. It's another one that was somewhat released

in 2013, but I consider it a 2014 film. But it's

two brothers. One's a cop, and one is basically

someone who's usually in some type of organized

crime or in jail or whatever. Stars Clive Owen

and Billy Crudup. It also has James Kane in it,

Zoe Saldana, Mila Kunis. So it's got some star

power, but I kind of enjoyed this one. It was

an interesting take. It reminds me a little bit

of... Oh geez, not really American Hustle. That's

going to be the wrong thing to say because it's

not a stylized and it's not really a con man

type thing situation, but just as the fact that

even if a film's not super great to some people,

I think they can respect some of the performances.

But it was interesting to see, it was kind of

an interesting family piece with James Conn playing

the dad and then Clive Owen and Billy Crudup

playing the two brothers and it was very dysfunctional.

The one cop is hooking up with the girlfriend

of a guy that he put in jail and there's drama

there and the dad's dying or dealing with some

health issues and there's lots of arguments and

stuff like that so I mean it's definitely an

interesting like family type of relationship

experience and it has some kind of decent action

and I don't know, I actually liked it more than

I thought I was going to. So that one I would

recommend people to watch, but I mean, it's not

going to be a great, super spectacular film,

but it was enjoyable to me. So that's the films

I saw outside of Transformers Age of Extinction,

which I will just spend a few minutes on. Now

Kevin, before you get into this, think about

the movie as a movie... Just as a movie and not

as a Michael Bay movie or don't think of it as

Ruining your childhood Okay This film cannot

ruin your childhood, you don't think there's

been three films before It's just not that good.

I mean Okay, take Shia LaBeouf out of the franchise.

Insert Marky Mark. Alright, that should be a

positive because Mark Wahlberg is much easier

to stomach than Shia LaBeouf and his crazy antics

lately, but Marky Mark is plain the dad of This,

like, 19 -year -old hottie that's, I guess, in

the place of Megan Fox or whoever else you want

to throw in there. She's, like, the eye candy

of the film. And he's supposed to be, like, you

know, the tough love dad as this girl is just

graduating high school and getting ready to go

out into the real world. Okay, that's kind of

hard to stomach in the first place, just him

in that role. But then, on top of that, he is

supposed to be, like, this major inventor slash

scientist guy. Which... It's just hard to put

all that together and say that that works So

that's just one of the issues is that his character

is kind of a weird it's a weird sell Except for

the fact that he's Mark Wahlberg and he has fans

so that'll help the movie do well The other thing

is they were they were kind of mean to people

on how they marketed this film because they marketed

it with all kinds of pictures of Optimus Prime

riding a Dinobot or of Dinobots in general and

there's gonna be this cool thing because we've

seen three Transformers movies But now we're

getting Dinobots so everybody be excited The

Dinobots are hardly in the film So that's kind

of misleading like they really don't play much

of a part in it They're in it for less than 20

minutes. I think and they really don't do that

much Like they don't add anything to the film

hardly So that was kind of weird Then you have

basically an int and this isn't necessarily spoils

spoils stuff because you you get this right away

in the film so it's not going to ruin your movie

going experience, but Instead you have the Autobots

the good faction or whatever and like all the

other films there's you know five or six of them

because that's about all you can have in these

films but they're not really battling Decepticons

in this film there's like a bounty hunter guy

who I guess is a transformer because he transforms

but he's more of just like a lone guy that's

just Going about the galaxy I guess bounty hunting

and he has a variety of both Transformers non

-transformers like trophies and prizes and weird

alien creatures and stuff like that and he's

hunting down the Autobots and trying to kill

them all That's a cool concept. Yeah, actually

sounds kind of neat Yeah Don't I didn't mind

his character I kind of liked him as a character

and I don't mind the whole bounty hunter angle

because it really hasn't been done in Transformers

much if at all But there really wasn't any Decepticons,

so you didn't get like Megatron You have a character

named Galvatron. Oh no Who really doesn't play

that big of a part he's not important, right

Yeah, I mean he's the only, besides the bounty

hunter whose name is Lockdown, Galvatron is the

only villain that speaks. Wow. And everybody

else is just basically a non -factor, non -character,

so to speak. And the Dinobots don't speak either,

so you have that. So I don't know it's just kind

of weird because you don't I mean you have a

Transformers film but you don't have the Autobots

and the Decepticons going against each other

outside of the kind of a rare Galvatron thing

which is I do give them credit they kind of made

a paid homage to the original Transformers animated

film where Megatron is reformatted into Galvatron.

They kind of do a little of that. So I mean,

that's cool. And the voice acting was good, especially

John Goodman as Hound. That character was very

likable and a very cool addition. Another thing

they did is they almost went too far in the one

direction. I've always complained about the Transformers

films being, especially the first one, where

it's just like a lot of jagged metal edges and

you can't really tell what's going on. You can't

identify who's who because it's just like...

Metal everywhere and then bit by bit. They added

a lot like through the second and third movie

They added more and more like solid color plates

and different things so that you could identify

What was going on? Yeah now in this film? They

have weird like almost human resembling heads

That sounds weird because it's not doesn't really

resemble humans But they don't resemble like

any of the Transformers heads or faces that anybody's

ever seen in any incarnation of transformers

um... where like the hound character almost has

like a beard and like smoking a cigar or something

like that like it's weird and then there's another

guy who's just straight up a ripoff or like a

samurai transformer guy um... i don't know there

was some weird look things like they almost went

too far to make them look not just like metal

pieces where now it's kind of a bit weird seeing

them and being like, kind of like what the feelings

you had when you were talking about Teenage Mutant

Ninja Turtles, like just a weird look that kind

of was off. Okay, okay, I can see that. So that

was kind of weird. They did leave the film off

in an interesting note that does hold some, I

do have a little bit of maybe some excitement

for if they went somewhere else with it. Are

you telling me that an engine on another cliffhanger?

Yeah, well most of the other films, most of the

other Transformers films actually don't. Well,

every movie nowadays... But the way that this

has, it's a cliffhanger in a way that is interesting

because it would shift the entire feel of these

types of movies. It leaves it in a place where

it could almost be leading up to another movie

that has nothing to do with humans whatsoever.

Which is that's what all the Transformers fans

have wanted since the first movie. No, not at

all. There were some good things about the film,

but I just don't understand why it was so long.

Three hours is ridiculous. You can't even call

that a kid's movie. No, you can't. And there

was a guy there that had a six -year -old kid

there, and he was just sleeping the entire time.

How was the plot? Was it easy to understand?

Would a kid understand it? Yeah, I mean, I feel

like a kid would probably understand the majority

of the plot There's probably a few things that

they'd be confused at But I mean basically like

it's basically like the whole government or human

like some type of agency that decides that you

know Earth was better off without transformers,

right? So, you know, it's them trying to get

rid of all the transformers so to speak and the

Autobots being like, you know, we weren't We're

not trying to like disrupt anything. We're the

good guys here uh... you know battles and sue

as the as the good side in the body hunter guys

kind of her the humans in the in the body hunter

kind of in league with each other uh... so i

mean the plots are too hard to follow from that

standpoint so i mean i can feel like some kids

like and there's a recent cool toys made out

of it because there's a lot of potential for

that uh... but if you really want to uh... to

get someone that's even harder on it in the reed

dams review on the site uh... he basically causes

from the wood easily the worst film of the year

well and he said that there's basically no redeeming

qualities whatsoever in the entire film he really

hated it i didn't hate it quite that much but

it is at the bottom of my list for this year

so far not the exact bottom but in the bottom

group and a hundred million dollars as have i

wanted frozen make In its lifetime. Yeah, Transformers

probably won't compete with that, but it will

be one of the biggest money makers of the year

just because all of them have been in previous

years that Transformers films have come out.

It's something that people will go see. It's

a spectacle. It's a summer popcorn blockbuster

type film. A lot of times that means it doesn't

have to be worth anything as far as this plot

and story and all that goes, so... Well... It

is what it is. Yeah. So... Frozen didn't even

rank number one when it came out, Nate. No, I

know. Oh, okay. I'm just saying, like, Frozen's

such a good movie. Yeah. That made, uh, a fourth

of its, like, in comparison, made a fourth of

that movie's, you know, total, in a weekend.

Yeah. Uh... whatever. Well, we'll see. Sometimes

with a film that gets that bad of reviews, sometimes

it'll curb and it'll have some major drop -offs

in the future weeks. Didn't that happen with

Amazing Spider -Man 2? Like... That happens with

a lot of films. I mean, the first weekend is

all about how well the movie was marketed, how

much excitement there was for it, and then that'll

get people in there right away, you know, as

far as excitement in that first weekend. And

there'll be a little bit of that that carries

on, but... Usually after that first weekend is

when people start reading reviews, people start

posting stuff, you know, Rotten Tomatoes type

scores go up, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

And that has a bigger impact than people think.

And, you know, if a film gets completely panned

across the board, you will see drop -offs in

the box office. I see. You know, stuff like The

Lone Ranger, Old Boy, and things like that. It's

not getting reviewed. Well sometimes that can

have a major drop -off But that first weekend

is usually more so about the marketing and just

the general excitement for whatever that see

you know Whatever the title is So we'll see hopefully

it'll have a little bit of a drop -off because

I it's definitely not as good of a film as Captain

America as X -Men and as Amazing Spider -Man

2 I Think it might be right on par with Godzilla

Really Yeah, I think it's I think those two are

in somewhat of the same neighborhood. All right.

I'm on my Fandango app right now It says the

fans say go when the critics say no That's how

the Transformers films are All right. So looking

back so far as what we have seen in 2014 we're

we're you know towards the end of June here starting

July and That makes it the halfway point of the

year. So it's a good time to see what normally

the first half of the year is the lesser of the

two halves of the years when it comes to movie

watching uh... most people if you look at their

like top ten movies of the year come the end

of the year each year a majority of those films

come out in the second half of the year it's

just how the schedule goes there might be one

or two that sneak in there from the first half

but usually the second half is the dominating

uh... half of the year movies and hopefully that'll

be true for me uh... going forward because i've

seen twenty Seven films so far this year in theaters

puts Well that have come out in 2014 not all

of them in theaters. Oh, so you're counting the

Hercules I'm counting anything that we saw like

on red box or this that and the other as far

as 2014 films. I've seen Okay, which is a decent

amount. I gotta say I'm not super impressed by

The year so far, but I have had a lot of films

that I've liked but I want to get you guys first,

because I've been talking too much. What are

the favorite films that you guys have seen this

year? Like a handful of films that you, two,

three, four films that you really like so far,

Nate? Well, Grand Budapest Hotel is right now

in my favorite of the year. And I don't know

if anything is going to beat it, just because

it was so good. I really like How to Train Your

Dragon 2. That's probably my number two. And

then Captain America. I don't oh chef chef was

really good, but I mean it was good, but I Don't

know it's hard to say like how it'll rank by

the end of the year, but it's it was a lot of

fun um So how to train your dragon to your favorite

animated slash kids film of the year so far I

I liked it better than like a movie. Okay. Yeah,

it just be like Well I don't want to get into

it. What about your favorite superhero slash

action blockbuster? It's between Cap and X -Men

and I like X -Men for being more of a comic book

-y movie but Cap was a really well done movie.

I don't know. Gotcha. I'll have to think more

about it. That's good. That's a good variety

there. We got a little bit of everything. the

superhero films, you got the Grand Budapest Hotel,

you got the animated films, and then Chef. I

like that. A little bit of everything. What about

you, Matt? I'm going to be unoriginal and say

almost everything Nate said. Grand Budapest was

my favorite, and that's kind of a comedy. You

said you hadn't spent any money on comedy. That's

kind of a comedy. Yeah, well, no, it's definitely

a comedy. It's probably, it's like... It's also

adventure though. I mean, you know, it's like

it's like a bunch of genres. Yeah, what's Anderson's

crazy? It's every it's every genre ever dissected

as a Wes Anderson movie and it's just His brain

is insane. So So good that that's definitely

my favorite movie of the year so far. Um You

know, I like to cap to a lot. I think chef might

be my second favorite. I really like chef I enjoyed

that movie I have not seen How to Train Your

Dragon 2. I'm gonna go see that Friday, probably.

Oh, wow. Like a midday showing? Yeah, yeah. Nice.

Yeah, Amy and I are talking about going and seeing

that this weekend. Um... Because, you know, there's

nothing else coming out, and I'm not gonna go

see Transformers 4 before I've seen the first

three. We should do that on Friday! It would

be terrible! No, I'm not gonna spend 12 hours

watching. Nine hours! Nine hours! That's too

many hours on Transformers. Unless it's the original

show, in which case it's just enough. So yeah,

like Cap, I like, you know, I saw all the superhero

movies, those are all fun. What's your favorite

one out of Captain and X -Men and Spider -Man?

Are those the only three, by the way? Am I missing

one? No. Okay, good. I mean, unless you count

300 or something as one, but that's not really...

Yeah. That's more of a comic book one, not a

superhero one. I'm gonna go with Captain America.

Like... I, you know, if we go, it's unfair, I

guess, because I saw that one twice. And the

second viewing, I appreciated it a lot more than

the first viewing. And if based on Jeff's first

viewings, I don't know if it would have done

it. But, yeah, definitely cap 2 for my favorite

action movie. I haven't seen any animated films,

unless you count Frozen, because I saw Frozen

in February. Because that movie was in theaters

forever. That's true. You need to see Lego Movie,

so I can see what your take is on that one. I

like it more to see you on Mike. Everybody will.

I don't think he liked Frozen either, so I could

be wrong. Wow. Well, at least he made fun of

one of the songs on one of the posts this last

week. I think that's what he was doing. I responded

and he did not, so I don't know if that's exactly

what he meant. He's like no fun allowed guy.

Yeah, he was saying something bad about Let It

Go, I think. Anyway, I have a lot of the same

films a couple different ones that I put up there

too Currently I kind of was going back and forth,

but I honestly have Lego movie as my number one

film so far Wow Maybe my thoughts will change

as I Think about them all more and maybe get

a second viewing of some of these eventually.

But currently Lego Movie is my number one. I'd

have Grand Budapest Hotel as my number two. So

I'm with you guys on that one. I actually really

like The Fault in Our Stars. I'm a sucker for

the guy that did the screenplay for that, because

he also did 500 Days of Summer and The Spectacular

Now, which I both like those films. I like Shylin

Woodley. So I like The Fault in Our Stars. Then

I probably round up my top five with a couple

of the superhero films. And I am going to readily

admit that I need to re -watch all the superhero

films eventually, because I'm pretty sure I'm

not in agreement with most people on those. I

put X -Men as my number fourth right now, the

number four film, and I actually have The Amazing

Spider -Man 2 as my number five. I appreciated

that a lot more than a lot of people, I guess.

I also liked Blood Ties. Like I said, Muppets

Most Wanted was decent and Captain America was

good. Oh man, I completely forgot about Muppets.

Yeah. That's depressing. It was fun. I liked

Divergence maybe even more so than The Hunger

Games, which I know most people don't. And then

probably rounded up my top ten would be one of

the following three films. It'd either be Maleficent,

Noah, or Edge of Tomorrow. They all had some

good things about them. They all had some bad

things about them. So they would make like a

first half of the year movie, those oral films

that would not even be mentioned probably in

a final year look back. But I liked them all.

So those are good things. If you're looking at

the worst things I've seen this year so far,

Transformers Age of Extinction and Godzilla,

like I said. 47 Ronin technically came out like

December 25th. But I thought that was pretty

bad. Walk of Shame. Not funny enough, and The

Legend of Hercules is my least favorite film

of the year so far. That one was bad. Yeah. So

stay away from those. Any other thoughts on what

you've seen so far this year, or if you think

it's been good, bad, anywhere in between? It's

ridiculous that we've seen so many movies that

we've forgotten some. Yeah, that's true. How

many movies did you watch in theaters last year,

Matt? Two or three. Yeah. Yeah, it's been fun.

I usually see the superhero movies, although

not always X -Men or Spider -Man, but definitely

the rest of the Marvel superhero movies. I see

those in theaters. And then I usually see one

on Valentine's Day, and that's about it. Yeah.

I just counted because you guys had asked before.

I have seen 27 films that I consider being released

in 2014. uh... twenty of them were in the theater

wow seven red box and twenty actually in the

theater use uh... well i'm trying to be might

be my number from last year and i'm a little

actually behind pace so uh... uh... we'll see

uh... as far as looking forward i'll start off

uh... since i went last on the other ones but

things i'm looking forward to seen in the rest

of the year i just got ten for you that i'm probably

most looking forward to uh... starting off with

july here uh... earth to echo uh... i think that

has some potential and uh... shut up no i'm just

kidding i'm going to say what nate said but a

lot less I don't know about that. I don't know

about that. It could be bad, but it's just something

I'm looking forward to see how they do it. It

has some cool elements to it. Planet of the Apes

was my number one. When Dan and I did our list

of films we were most looking forward to in 2014,

Planet of the Apes was my number one. So that's

coming up and I'm excited about that. So that'll

be something I'm much looking forward to seeing.

Guardians of the Galaxy, just because of everything

that I've seen so far on it this year. I wouldn't

have been as excited at the beginning of the

year, but everything I've seen just makes it

seem even better. Intrigued to see what happens

with the giver. Box trolls, that was on my list

at the beginning of the year, still is. Maze

runner, looks like it could be something that's

awful, but I'm somewhat intrigued by that. Gone

Girl. Interstellar, that was Dan's, at the top

of Dan's list I think somewhere, Interstellar.

Exodus. with Christian Bale and Into the Woods

the musical extravaganza slash fairy tale thing

because I want to see what they do with that.

So those are some of the films I'm most looking

forward to for the latter half. Nate, anything

you're looking forward to? Definitely Planet

of the Apes. I am looking forward to the Hercules

movie with Dwayne the Rock Johnson. I'm looking

forward to Magic in the Moonlight, the Woody

Allen movie starring Emma Stone, just because

it's a Woody Allen movie starring Emma Stone.

That's it. And that's it. And then if we go...

I'm doing this thing chronological order. Guardians

of the Galaxy, I'm excited for. Get On Up, looks

cool. Calvary. The trailer looked good and I

want to see more about it before I get excited,

but I don't know. I do want to see the THV Ninja

Turtles movie, but I don't know. It's not looking

good. I just want to see it just because I'm

dumb. Frank looks weird and kind of cool. Sin

City looks interesting. Um, I mean obviously

I don't know. I like the first one. So there's

that And then as you can tell I'm like just scrolling

down a list The box trolls definitely definitely

interested in that one I love that one's that

one is Like claymation or it's like stop -motion,

right? Yeah. Yeah, that's that's insane like

That kind of art form is just ridiculous. And

then like the trailer they showed, that was like

a teaser that just showed how they did everything.

Oh man. That was the best trailer of the year

for us. Intense. The interview with Seth Rogen

and James Franco, just because I like those two

guys and they have great chemistry together.

The Dracula Untold movie, I'm hoping to see that

that'll look good. Open to see more um Birdman

looks really weird, and I want to see it because

it's got a weird trailer um I think that might

be a wool -over -your -eye situation Well, you

think so like I'm think I'm thinking like you

know a giant bird on Manhattan and all that other

stuff I think that might be Birdman doing the

Birdman movie, and then like, cause it's like,

it's about a movie star that's washed up, and

then he's like, I'm gonna bring the movie to

the Broadway. And I'm worried all of the cool

action -y scenes were from that movie, and that

it's just gonna be like a boring shitty drama

movie. Yeah. Well anyway, um, we'll see. We'll

see about that. I don't know. Maybe we won't

see. Maybe we won't doesn't matter. Um a big

hero six. I actually even though it's like whatever

it's a movie About animation and it means an

animated movie I don't I'm not really that interested

in it, but it's an animated movie and I'm interested

in animated movie So I'm I'm kind of interested

in it. It's a weird way to say that dumb and

dumber two Shut up. I like the old one. We'll

see how the new one works It'll be weird. Um,

and that's about it. I'm not really interested

in the Hobbit. I still haven't seen the second

one But yeah, and don't you can't see the third

one then right? Well, I mean well, I don't know.

Um, I know that my fiance will be incredibly

excited to know that night at the Museum Three

is coming out this year Which is a terrible movie,

but whatever it's got What's his name? You know

Robin Williams? Robin Williams Hopefully Rumored

I don't know All right, what about you Matt?

I'm gonna do the opposite I'm gonna do my top

10 that I want to see Starting with the one I

want to see the least of the 10 going down because

I think that's a good way to do things Number

number 10 I would say interstellar I'm not super

impressed with it, but it's interesting and I

want to see it because that Maybe when we get

closer, we'll have a different opinion Number

9 will be big hero 6 I've read Think the first

issue of the original Japanese comic when it

was brought to America I think that's what it

was and You know it was fun or whatever and I'm

interested to see how where they take it Because

I think they're going a little more funny that

I remember it, but I could be remembering wrong

Next would be Sin City 2 or Sin City 0 .5 Which

I am still very worried about like if I hadn't

seen the trailer that we had a week ago. I think

that would have been probably in the top five,

but that trailer has me a little worried. After

that would be Dracula Untold. I'm very interested

in that movie, and it's probably gonna be the

best fantasy movie, or one of the better fantasy

movies of the year. After that would be Frank,

which I think has been the one that's captured

my attention for the longest of any movie of

the year. Because I've been interested in that

since the first time I saw a trailer and I'm

still just as interested today Then for my top

five number five would be get on up the James

Brown biopic which looks amazing After that it's

Hercules with Dwayne Johnson Which you know just

looks great, but I'm worried after seeing the

other Hercules movie Then top three box trolls

which we've all talked about, looks great. Guardians

of the Galaxy, which actually in January I was

very worried about, and then every trailer I

see makes me a little more interested. And then

the number one film I'm most interested in 2014

is The Art of the Steal. The heist movie starring

Kurt Russell. What's some other movie? Like that

one? Uh, like November? Oh, according to this,

June in the UK. Oh, we're going to be super late.

I don't know. I thought I saw it in November.

I could be wrong. Maybe it's already out and

then we just don't get it in where we live because

we don't get anything. Right. Yeah. All right.

Well, I think we gave a variety of films there

for people to think about and I'm sure there's

different levels of excitement for some of those

films. But there is a lot of stuff coming out,

and that's not even going to count all the films

that come out in November and December that all

of a sudden are all the Oscar films that people

will start talking about that we probably, half

of them, haven't even heard of yet. So there's

that. As far as films coming out immediately

here, first off, as far as your Blu -ray releases

for next week, Yep, nothing for you to go buy

Nothing there's literally nothing for anybody

then to go purchase Unless I guess you're a big

documentary fan. I guess some people have been

talking about the unknown known Which I think

it's a Donald Rumsfeld documentary Not a lot

to go see there, but in theaters July 1st here

you have Tammy July 2nd deliver us from evil

and earth to echo So those are the big ones for

this next coming week. Heading into the July

4th weekend. So not a ton, unless you're a huge

fan of Melissa McCarthy, then you go see Tammy.

If you're a horror slash thriller fan, you can

go see Deliver Us From Evil. If I had to pick

a film, I would be going to see Earth Echo out

of that group. But we'll see. I know Nate won't

go see Tammy, because that's a comedy. Well,

no, I won't go see it because of different reasons,

but... What are those reasons, Nate? It's stupid.

It looks dumb. I like comedy. I like laughing

a lot, but... Not a Melissa McCarthy fan? Not...

I don't know. I haven't seen a movie with her

in it yet, so probably not. And we did ask people,

as far as last week, what stuff they had liked

so far in this last year. So that way, when we

were talking about it, we could get their input

as well. And a lot of people agreeing with us

in certain respects. Grand Budapest Hotel, I

know got some mentions. Lego Movie. Captain America.

So those are all ones that we brought up in our

conversation. The Raid 2 somebody brought up.

And the Rover. Well, what was that? I just had

a memory of the raid too. We never got to see

it. It turns out it was actually in our town

for one week. I was talking to the guy at the

used disc store when I was buying, I was buying

Grand, or the Royal Tenenbaums, and we got to

talk about Wes Anderson and he was like, I didn't

get to see Grand Budapest. I was like, yeah,

I was only in theaters for like two weeks here.

And I was like, I wish the raid had come. He's

like, it did. If it was here for one week, I

saw it. And I was like, oh man, I'm jealous.

And people are also looking forward to some of

the same stuff that we're looking forward to.

So Fury, Dumb and Dumber 2. Someone had mentioned

Fox Catcher with Steve Carell. A Hunger Game

and a Hobbit mentioned, even though we weren't

as thrilled on those Gone Girl again. Interstellar

a lot of people talking about interstellar. There's

a lot of buzz about that one obviously Turns

out art of the steel is already on DVD and I'm

buying it right now We will be watching it in

a week awesome, all right Anything else about

stuff coming up or conversations that you guys

saw or comments that you wanted to mention from

the website You and Dan got into it, but I think

you guys got it all sorted out and everything's

copathetic now We like to debate just because

that's the fun thing about talking about movies

is debating and we did have a lively conversation

about Maleficent and the whole conversation that

we had about the rape analogy etc But yeah, Dan

and I just like to do that and it's part of the

fun of talking about movies There's never any

ill will or hard feelings Even at that time.

Even at that time, it might look like it. But,

go ahead. I don't know. I guess, you know, I

kind of got a little angry. And I might not have

made my points as clear for that. And that might

be part of my fault then. No, I mean, I think,

too, he said some good stuff about you, too.

So, as far as what you were getting at, I just,

yeah. I have to agree to disagree on some things

with him. I get what he's saying and that the

point of a movie is to interpret and to take

away with what you want to, but I just don't

like necessarily trying to make it seem like

that was somebody's intention if there's no evidence

to support that. If that's your interpretation,

that's one thing and that's cool. That's what

you should do. But sometimes I think people make

the mistake of trying to say that's actually

what the author was intending. And that's when

I have a problem with it. That's good. But yeah,

if you guys want to be a part of those conversations,

make sure you always check out the episode posts

and chime in or reply or respond or start your

own, you know, debate topic or discussion point.

And we will definitely, we always check it out

and try to reply or be a part of that conversation.

So you can definitely do that. Did we have a

question for this week? Putting you guys on the

spot. Let's see. What were we looking at here?

I got one here. We talked about in the headlines

that there is a Star Wars museum coming to Chicago.

If that was, let's say that was the start of

something like that. Let's say there was a trend.

Yeah, I like where this is going. And all of

a sudden we're gonna have stuff like this. like

museums or places where it's not just like the

Museum of Natural History, it's not just the

Art and Science Museum, it's not just all that

type of stuff where it becomes more of like a

pop culture or video games or movies or TV shows

or cartoons or whatever. If you could have a

museum in your nearest by big city, what kind

of museum would you want it to be? Or what kind

of place would you want it to be? What franchise?

What movie? What character? What director? What

actor? video game, cartoon, what would be the

coolest theme for a museum or something like

that? I like the idea of a really cool museum.

Yeah, just something that you would be excited

about, like just to go, like, whatever, like

a Nintendo museum or like a Mario Brothers museum

or an Indiana Jones museum or something like

that. Like, what would you be super ecstatic

for if it was all of a sudden announced that

it was coming to a city near you? I think there

is actually a video game museum in New York,

I want to say. Oh, I'm sure there is, but...

I don't know. Still. But still, in a different

way maybe, in more of a grand spectacle where

I think this is going as far as the Lucas Museum.

This isn't just going to be some run of the mill

museum. There's museums everywhere. There's a

gun museum. There's a rodeo museum. There's probably

a chewing gum museum of some sort. But we're

talking about something that millions and millions

and millions and millions of dollars is getting

poured into that's going to be like this. Just

awe -inspiring spectacle. And we'll come up with

what we want for next week and we'll respond

to what we would pick. But it's hard to beat

the idea of a Star Wars museum coming to the

biggest city that we're by. That's super exciting

news. So let us know what you would be excited

about. And also, like I said, check out the web

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