X-Men: Days of Future Past Review

Today on MYR Weekly, we'll be discussing what

Hugh Jackman would like to do next for Wolverine,

what's next for the Coen Brothers, and our main

attraction, X -Men Days of Future Past. All that

and more coming up on MYR Weekly. Hello and welcome

to my weekly the podcast dedicated to the movie

week that was I am one of your hosts Dan Clark

and Joining me as always well, I guess can't

say as always because I'm not here anymore, but

Kevin optimus solo. How's it going, man? It's

going good. Good to have you back. It's good

to be back for sure and Also, here is Nathan

Come on Nathan Adolfo sack shabba -doo Is that

anywhere close to being correct? Yes, Adolfo

Shabadoo. It's like he slammed dunk on TFG1 Mike

because he can't pronounce it yet. And Matt,

Fridley Sense, how's it going? I'm good. Thank

you for asking. Yeah, I luckily come back. I

felt like with this being my most anticipated

movie of the year, I felt and it being Memorial

Day weekend, I had to come back for this episode.

It's a special episode. But how's things going

for all you guys? Going well. And a busy week.

Yeah. My latest weekend of the year. I don't

know about you guys. What are you doing? Eating

a lot of food and drinking a lot of booze. Heck

yeah, man. I like to be a true American on Memorial

Day. America. I think I'm actually planning on

grilling. It's like the most American I've ever

been. Nice, nice. We'll begin MY Weekly like

we always do, as we take a look at this past

weekend's box office. And of course, with X -Men

coming out, it reigned supreme this weekend,

knocking Godzilla from the number one spot, ranking

in about 90 million for the entire weekend. It

looks like it'll have over 100 million for the

four -day total. Any surprise there that X -Men

made as much as it did? No, I don't think so.

I mean, I mean that was an impressive opening

weekend regardless even I mean no surprises of

being at number one Pulling in almost 100 million

on the first week That's pretty impressive. I

guess like I was gonna say it's fighting Godzilla,

which has only been out for a week. So like to

tower over that one so much Yeah, and Godzilla

has a pretty big drop dropping nearly 70 % going

down to 31 million Not too surprising, consider

X -Men coming out and that got very bad word

of mouth, I guess, or mixed at best. And then

I think we can finally say people are stopping

seeing Adam Sandler movies like their religion,

because that came in a disappointing third place

with only 14 million, which is hopefully a good

sign that maybe those will stop happening soon.

I don't know. There was an article out there

I didn't include in the news, but an interview

with Adam Sandler about Basically, his movie

is just being like an excuse for him to be on

vacation in some different exotic place. And

he didn't refute that. I mean, why would you

not do that if you had a chance? He said something

about doing it on 50 first dates and thinking,

hey, this is a great idea. Yeah. Who knows if

he's serious or joking, but it seems like it.

But yeah, maybe his. I mean, it's been it's interesting

because Adam Sandler does the same movie every

time and Tom Cruise does the same movie every

time. But yeah, I got to disagree with the Tom

Cruise thing, but I guess you get that. I'm just

going to have seen any of his recent films, so

I'm judging that based on complete ignorance.

Oh, man. I actually I was at work today at Target

and I saw Tom Cruise movie and it was working.

I just saw like the DVD case and I was like,

is that already out? And it looked exactly like

the movie that's coming out where it's like Groundhog's

Day. Day after tomorrow or whatever. Whatever.

Yeah, OK. Actually, we watched, you know, we

watched a movie with Eddie Izzard recently and

my girlfriend looked up Eddie Izzard on IMDB

and he was in Valkyrie and I'm like, I'm not

watching that movie, man. Why? The Tom Cruise

nasty movie. I'm not that interested. Like, I

want to see more. Eddie Izzard and Les Tom Cruise

like 90s Tom Cruise was great. I'll watch Mission

Impossible again Not again and again and again

I'll watch a few good men once a year at least

And just running out the top five neighbors holding

strong at 13 million and Amazing Spider -Man

2 ranking in another 7 million dollars I guess

one of the only big surprises of the fact that

X -Men Days of Future Past made less money its

opening weekend than X -Men 3 So, I don't know,

which is a little odd. It makes you realize that

sometimes bad movies make a lot of money, but

I'm sure it will have more staying power than

the last X -Men movie. Yeah, and obviously Amazing

Spider -Man 2 and Captain America The Winter

Soldier and probably one of its final weeks in

the theater for a lot of places took a big shot

and big drop because of X -Men coming out. Not

to mention Godzilla, but especially X -Men. So

Spider -Man dropped almost 55 % in Captain America,

the same thing. But I don't think those movies

can complain too much. They made a lot of money.

I mean, some of the other big changes was Shaft,

which upped its theater count and That brings

in about you know, two million, which is not

too bad considering its theater count of only

like 498 which is like, you know one third of

that of uh, you know x -band and other films

Go ahead. No, I just want to say yeah that that

and along with a couple other films that are

just starting to get The trickle effect as they

get into more theaters Railway man and immigrant

Yeah, both both were both of those are finally

making their way over which I think they've had

releases overseas but finally making their way

Over to the states as I say Any other surprises

anything else when you want to point out regarding

the box office? I'm the biggest drop for the

week Basically, if you're looking at like the

top 20 top 25 would definitely be a legends of

Oz It was ninth last week It's not even in the

top 20 it dropped almost 80 % And that movie

has only made seven million dollars. So oh my

god that three year in the working project Not

so hot and we also had a change in the all time.

I don't know if it was domestic or it might be

all time international worldwide released. I

think Frozen. Yeah, Frozen has passed Iron Man

3 and it is now number five in all time worldwide

gross. Which is kind of crazy. Yeah, the worldwide

gross goes Avatar, Titanic, Avengers, The Last

Harry Potter and then Frozen. Like frozen is

infectious like we were at a pool party today,

and there's a baby crying He's like hold on hold

on he pull out his phone and pulled up Let it

go and the whole party shut down and everyone

let it go That's awesome. It's something else

man. I don't I get to come to your cool parties.

I Only the only person I knew there was the person

it was the birthday party for so it would have

been hard for me to get you in and we have Dan,

obviously we did our predictions as far as which

films would make the most over 2014. We've been

keeping up on that as far as every week looking

at our top five of the year so far. And there

has been a movie that finally dropped out of

the top five. Ride Along is no longer in the

top five for 2014. Lego Movie is a million ahead

of Captain America. And that's the one and two

spot. And then it's down to Amazing Spider -Man

2 at the third spot, Godzilla at the fourth spot,

and Divergent at the fifth spot. Lego Movie is

at 254 million, and Divergent in the fifth spot

is at 147. Interesting. And my prediction for

Reo 2 was a very bad one because it looks like

it did not do very well. But yeah, what you gonna

do? Alright, anything else regarding box office

before we talk about this week's headlines? Nope.

Kev, you want to take it? Absolutely. Headlines

today? We didn't have any casting call things,

so it's basically just generic headlines and

then a couple sequels and remakes. Starting with

Hugh Jackman's been doing a bunch of interviews

obviously with X -Men coming out. He made a couple

different comments on two different fronts. One,

that he would be keen for Wolverine and Deadpool

to square off once more. Obviously, X -Men Origins,

we already had that, but even Jackman was admitting

that the character was not done well in that

film, and he would like to have another shot

at that. And then his other story was about him

wanting to see Wolverine join the Avengers. Quote,

I would love to see him as part of the Avengers.

There's a great dysfunction among that team,

and I think Wolverine would fit right into that.

There's no doubt he'd get in a fight with Hulk

at some point. Thoughts on Hugh Jackman wanting

Deadpool back or wanting to be involved in the

Avengers, Dan? Well, based upon our main attraction,

it seems like they're existing in a world where

X -Men and Lord of the Rings didn't happen, and

I'm okay with that. So if they want to, you know,

go and redo that again or do something else,

I'm fine. Him and the Avengers, I know it's just

something he said, I doubt it will ever happen.

It'll probably be after he's given up the role

a long time ago And I also think like at this

point Hugh Jackman is just saying whatever because

he's probably been on tour for a little brain

for this movie forever So I think he's just like

I guess I'll say this now and see what happens.

So I don't know What do you think about them

trying to do Deadpool again? Well As I said in

the I think of the last one I think Deadpool

could be done on the big screen. I am done properly

to the original character I I mean after this

new one, I would totally love for them to try

again. I don't know if they should give it to

Ryan Reynolds. I think he could totally pull

it off, but I think he's already had his chance

and missed it. But I want to go back to the other

one. I don't think the Avengers are full of dysfunction.

I get that they had their moments, but I think

that they function pretty well. But I also think

that him versus the Hulk would be an amazing

like reference to the comics Because that was

his first appearance, right? Yes, like him versus

the Hulk was that his first. Yeah, that was so

nice. That's cool That'd be nice if that would

actually happen or even just like a I don't know

like a short film or something if the them fighting

that would be They should do it when they get

a new one, so it could be the first appearance

of the new Wolverine. That would be cool. Also

news about the Star Wars standalone movies, I

guess they're calling them spin -off Star Wars

films. What I'm talking about there would be

not the episodic ones as far as 7, 8, 9, but

the side stories that they're going to do. There's

an article today that Gareth Edwards, who was

involved in Godzilla is going to be the director

of the first Star Wars spinoff that will be here

in December of 2016. And it's going to be written

by Gary Witta. Yeah, put him on the bag. What's

that? Oh, so we got Gary. So we got Gareth Edwards

and Gary Witta possibly involved in this new

Star Wars film. And I have no problem with that.

Like, I don't think the I don't think the problem

And Godzilla necessarily was the directing. As

much as it was the writing. So maybe I'll give

him a pass as and his involvement with Godzilla.

But I don't know, what do you what are your opinions

on Gareth Edwards or Gary Witter, Dan? Gary Witter,

I don't have a huge. I mean, I know he did Book

of Eli. He wrote After Earth and he was also

the writer of the The Walking Dead game, which

I heard I didn't play, but I heard got a lot

of Great praise. I think off the cuff podcast

gave it like the game of the year when they did

it. Gareth Edwards, I do agree. Most of the issues

with Godzilla that I had and you guys had wasn't

necessarily a director one more so with the script.

But the one issue with him as a director, even

in the movie Monsters that he directed his first

one, he's not a great acting director. He's not

really good at getting performances out of people.

And I think that was a key issue with Godzilla.

I think that's also a key issue with George Lucas

at points that that makes me worried a little

bit. So as long as he has a strong script behind

him and a good cast, but on a larger sense, I

don't know if I like the idea of them having

Star Wars movies every year. Like, I don't want

Star Wars to be like James Bond, where they just

become so repetitive you forget which one's which.

So I don't know, that to me just I think is a

worry. I think too with that, like, I'm thinking

back of like when episode one came out and how

much excitement there was. And to me, kind of

like what I said on one of the previous five

guys, like the excitement was because we hadn't

had Star Wars in so long. and like the excitement

somewhat dwindled I think with episode two and

to an extent with episode three and now it's

been so long so there's going to be this huge

you know excitement and buzz because people haven't

seen Star Wars in the theater for you know a

decade. So like, there's going to be a lot of

buzz when episode seven finally comes out. And

I think you're right. If they start doing something

every single year, unless they're just absolutely

amazing films, the excitement's really going

to wane and it's not going to be something special

anymore. It's going to be like more so like,

oh, the traditional we do this every year, every,

every Christmas we go see a Star Wars film. But

not necessarily like the lines around the building

like this is an epic event type thing So, I don't

know it might lose some of its lustre I agree

with you But I do like the idea of exploring

some of these side characters or just not necessarily

side characters But individual characters and

their own story without having to loop it into

the the whole universe So I like the idea of

exploring it. I just don't like the idea of them

forcing one out every year Let's just hope they're

so amazing that we just we forget that we're

like, yeah another Star Wars. I can't wait Hopefully,

I mean my favorite my favorite Star Wars book

I think I ever read was Han Solo trilogy Which

was just it was just Han Solo two years before

episode four and it was great So like I mean

you could follow a single one character and have

it be good. So hopefully they do that. Yeah Hopefully

everything they do with it is good because I

will be a fan of all of it if so But we also

got official word. I don't even feel like this

is news so much but We can stop calling it Batman

versus Superman Dark Knight rises darkness follows

whatever we've been all the different rumors

that came out like four months ago or whatever

I guess it has an official name now and that

would be Batman versus Superman dawn of justice

Which I don't know why they don't just call it

like dawn of justice I don't even need the Batman

be Superman part, but I guess they're not Dan

fans of subtlety when it comes to the title.

Well, it was kind of like Captain America, the

first Avenger. Yeah, a little bit like that.

Yeah, but I mean, it's like it's in this situation.

It's like for me, it's they're so desperate to

have people thinking about Justice League and

the eventual movie that like everything they're

doing is for that. Whereas for me, like all the

other ones were good enough on their own. Like,

yeah, they were all building towards the Avengers.

But like they weren't consumed with that where

this one is just like, it seems like all their

attention is just like rushing and rushing and

pushing to try to get to this Justice League

movie that I don't know. I just have a bad feeling

about all this. I mean, I I'm not mean the title

is a title. I'm not. It doesn't really change.

Like to me, the whole like subtitle I think is

normal when it comes to X -Men movies. I mean,

not X -Men movies, but comic book movies. Like

no one calls X -Men to X -Men to X -Men United.

They just say X two or so there. I mean, it's

not that big of a deal. Um, you mentioned captain

america the first avenger and I think that clearly

was More of an implication because of the worry

of how captain america would sell overseas So

it's like, all right, let's throw the avengers

on there. Some people know but uh, yeah I mean

it to me. It's just it's just indicating what

we already know Yeah, i'm a little surprised

they went with batman or superman and not like

man of steel the dark knight rises or whatever,

but uh Sure. I mean, I know They have I just

think it's funny that superman gets second billing

in his own sequel. So Yeah, that's true. I do

like the logo. I like what they did with the

Superman and the Batman Images I guess that's

kind of that's uh, that's like taking straight

out of the comic books actually, okay? I'm pretty

close, you know gotcha And then we also had a

story I don't know which which of us is bigger

Cohen brothers fans out of the four of us, but

Interesting topic here that Steven Spielberg

is doing a Cold War thriller with Tom Hanks attached

as one of the main stars, and apparently this

is going to be involving the Coen brothers. I

don't know if we've ever seen that combination

before. Dan, Tom Hanks hasn't appeared in any

Coen Brothers stuff, has he? Geez, no, not that

I can think of, unless it's something they wrote.

They've written a lot that you may not even realize,

but I can't think of anything off my head. I

don't say anything to do with the road to perdition,

but mine going to go with no. And I'm sure for

I'm sure if I'm wrong, I'll be corrected in the

comments. But I don't know. I just find that

interesting combination. I like Coen Brothers.

I like Spielberg and I like Hanks. So I guess

throw them all together and see what comes out.

How big of a how big a Coen Brothers fans is

everybody? Nate, do you like the Coen Brothers?

Yeah, I mean, I've seen a lot of their movies,

not all of them. Also. Tom Hanks wasn't the lady

killers. I just looked that up. Oh, yeah, that's

right but No, probably No Country for Old Men

is my favorite one of theirs Raising Arizona

is really good. But yeah, I like them. What about

you Matt? So the only movie I've seen of theirs

I can even remember even a little bit of is Oh

Brother like I saw Big Lebowski when I was like

eight and Fargo when I was like six Why are you

watching Fargo at six dude my parents would all

Pop it in a rated movie and I would just come

down and get pizza in this hangout It's the way

to do it. Okay. Yeah, so I think I've seen I

think I've seen oh brother That's the one I can

remember at all Dan you're a big fan, right?

Yeah, definitely. I mean I love Barton Fink a

Brother you like you mentioned Fargo Colts blood

simple the first movie even like one of my favorites

is Miller's crossing which is One of their lesser

not lesser, but lesser known films. It didn't

wasn't very successful and I loved Inside Lewin

Davis last year. So I think honestly they're

they're Easily in like the top three of directors

going today at least American directors So we'll

have to wait and see what that film shakes out

to be as far as like the mode and the tone of

that Another one apparently trouble with Ant

-Man director Edgar Wright exits Marvel's Ant

-Man over creative differences I can't speak

much because I don't necessarily know a lot about

Edgar Wright, but I guess it's interesting that

there's obviously something going on behind the

scenes that's causing a stir in the Ant -Man

universe. So maybe something for Ant -Man fans

to pay attention to. What do you think, Dan?

Marvel just doesn't like directors. They always

have issues with directors. It's like the fifth

time this has happened. This kind of really bums

me out because I am a big Edward Edgar Wright

fan. I mean, it's John of the Dead, The World's

End. I mean he's only in trying to uh, uh scott

pilgrim spot. Yeah scott pilgrim and the hot

fuzz all liked all his movies so far and I'm

worried about this because he's been behind this

movie since like 2006 He's been like the driving

force behind it He came up with a lot of the

concept of it And it worries me because I was

really looking forward to this so fully because

he was attached to it. So him jumping out I think

it's a it's a big loss for marvel. Um, and I

I don't know whether they're gonna get to replace

him, but yeah I'm disappointed for sure. Yeah,

I agree completely Yeah, I mean it'd be interesting

to learn a little bit more about it as far as

later on as to what? What the issues were I'm

gonna say yes as he's been involved with this

sense about for about eight years And the idea

of an Ant -Man film and then meetings and coming

up with everything so Definitely has done the

brunt of the work for this and now obviously

someone else is gonna take over You know just

just over a year before it's supposed to come

out in July of next year So that's kind of some

shoes to fill as far as taking over something

that's been so long in the making I haven't seen

most of Edgar Wright's films, unfortunately So

you saw Scott Pilgrim, right? I like that, but

I haven't seen I haven't seen like a world's

end Yeah, I haven't seen that or how fuzz or

no you did we watched it together world's end.

No, we watched this There was too many movies

last year that were about the world ending Go

ahead there's is the one where they go to the

bar isn't there they have the bar pub crawl.

Yeah, I did not see that one. Oh, you didn't

I thought you know I saw the other one with all

the comedians in it. Oh, okay. You can describe

it both ways. My guess is that he he got all

those ants in an ant farm and those fellows didn't

grow nothing. That joke goes to Mitch Hedberg,

who is the greatest comedian of all time. I don't

know, man. I haven't seen any of his stuff, but

I'm sure he's great and that hopefully they get

someone that's as good as him. Alright, two more

stories for us. Rumor out there that Alfonso

Cuaron is going to be directing a prequel to

The Shining. Dan, thoughts about his combination

of Alfonso Cuaron with The Shining or the need

for a prequel to The Shining? There is a million

needs for one I Don't know that seems kind of

I like I mean I'll like a fondle of Ron and I

I wonder if he's gonna do that because I think

he was just tied to like the new Harry Potter

stuff that's Supposed to be happening. So right.

He's definitely definitely very popular right

now with movies trying to get him on board with

their film or with their ideas Yeah, I don't

know I Sure, I mean, I'd probably see it, but

I don't think there's a need for it. I'm not

a huge Shining fan. I know it's kind of sacrilegious

because it's Kubrick, but I don't know. I'm not

as in love with that movie as a lot of people,

but I don't. It seems really just kind of unnecessary.

Mad or Nate, any need for a prequel to The Shining?

It's about a guy who writes a book and everything's

successful, and then he meets a chick and then

the movie ends. So no need for a prequel? No.

Getting into some trailer talk, there's quite

a few trailers actually that were released in

the last week including some new ones for Guardians

of the Galaxy and Jupiter Ascending. We also

got even though Foxcatcher was originally supposed

to come out I think over a year ago, I guess

they had delayed it until this year and now they're

gonna start reshowing trailers for that. Then

we had Wish I Was Here, Kingsman the Secret Service

which for me played before X -Men, Happy Christmas,

Life of Crime, some new teasers for the animated

film, Big Hero 6, and a bunch of others that

will be in the episode post. I'll start with

Dan. Any trailers that you saw this week that

you found interesting or trailers that you saw

before, X -Men? Well, the one that... I mean,

the trailer wasn't anything special, but Foxcatcher,

I really want to see. Mainly because of the cast

and it's... By bennett mailer and he did money

ball and I really liked money ball and it got

a lot It just premiered at can I think and it

got a lot of praise so i'm looking forward to

that But the trailer wasn't really anything much.

Um The king's been the secret service I that

did play before my ex x -men as well Not sure

what to make of it calling for doing that type

of role It's by matthew vaughn who I like as

a director a lot. I mean excellent first class

kick -ass layer cake, which was you know, there's

it's like a Kid version of James Bond in a way.

I don't know. It could be good I was surprised

on that one that that I hadn't heard anything

about it until also in the trailer showed up

because that doesn't usually happen No, no and

Big Hero 6 I'm liking what Disney's been doing

with their animation since they did tangled and

Wreck -It Ralph and frozen last year and They're

now kind of doing a Marvel movie. I didn't know

nothing about Big Hero 6 or the comic or anything

about it But that has me intrigued I love the

way that they that they show in that little teaser

the guy trying to Pick up the soccer ball. Yeah

It reminds me a lot of like the teaser they have

for frozen which was like the I don't remember

their names was a snowman and the Reindeer and

they're like on the ice and stuff. It's a lot

of physical comedy It's very Pixar X X and Pixar

hasn't been like Pixar lately And I think Disney's

kind of regained that like crown. So I that has

me intrigued and then I guess just so I can stop

talking, the last one was the new Woody Allen

movie, just because I like the idea of Woody

Allen teaming up with Emma Stone. I think she

has the classic, looking at some of the great

performances Woody Allen has gotten out of women.

She has a similar personality, so I'm kind of

looking forward to that partnership. Yeah, I

agree. It looked interesting. I'm not usually

a big fan of Woody Allen's but the trailer did

seem a little bit interesting to me I'm also

for some reason interested to to see Happy Christmas

From oh, yeah, that's good. Yeah from the same

people that did drinking buddies and it stars

Anna Kendrick and I love Anna Kendrick so Watch

anything that she's in probably so that one looked

interesting to me as well I did not get to see

the updated or the newest Jupiter Ascending trailer,

but I did see the Guardians of the Galaxy, the

most recent trailer that also obviously played

before X -Men, and I just really like the feel

of that. It so much reminds me of the same type

of feel I get. I'm not trying to compare it to

this at all, but like the same type of feel that

you get like before you're watching Spaceballs

or just like a fun like... We're not gonna take

ourselves too serious. It's just gonna be like

sit back and have some fun I don't know. I like

the vibe that's been happening with Guardians

of the Galaxy What do you guys feel about that

one? From what I've seen it's exactly what I

wanted from it like I've read some of the comic

books are a lot more serious than that movie

and You know, I'm a stickler for being close

to source material, but I don't think you need

to in this one I think it looks good, but I can't

wait Was happy that they had their base nowhere

because it's Celestial head which makes me excited

because if they have Celestials in the Marvel

Cinematic Universe that would be really cool,

but I That was a little bit of surprise. I wasn't

expecting How do you feel about the Guardians

of the Galaxy one night? Oh, I'm really I'm really

excited for that one The only thing that was

a little weird for me was when Bradley Cooper

was talking as the raccoon. It just didn't mesh

right I felt But that might be... I'll have to

see the movie. But it didn't sound like a raccoon

was talking. It sounded like Bradley Cooper was

talking and then there was a raccoon moving his

mouth. So that was a little weird for me. What

about some of the other trailers that might have

caught your eye? Anything else that we hadn't

brought up? No, but definitely the Woody Allen

one. I love Woody Allen. One of my favorite movies

is Love and Death that he did. It's a super dumb

movie, but I like it. What about anybody any

other trailers that any of us did not bring up

that somebody wanted to mention before we move

on? Alright so for all those trailers and to

get your own peek at them just check out the

episode post we'll have links to the YouTube

trailers for those so you can save you some work

and just find them all in one spot. And with

that we're gonna take a quick break and we will

be back with our main attraction X -Men Days

of Future Past. I don't want your future! Alright

and welcome back back but today we'll be discussing

X -Men Days of Future Past but before we get

into our main attraction has anyone been watching

anything else this week? Nate, what did we watch

on Friday? We watched Mystery Men on Friday.

That's right. The movie we talked about in the

last podcast we were talking about? It was two

ago because we said we were going to watch it

the same time we watched Batman but we ran out

of time on Batman night so we watched it this

week. Yeah. That's a fun film. Yeah, yeah, I

couldn't remember it from the time I had watched

it when it was new so it was good to go back

I also saw bits of I can't say I saw a hundred

percent but both Princess and the Frog and kiss

kiss bang bang And I will be sitting down to

rewatch kiss kiss bang bang And I hope maybe

we can do it on one of these Fridays because

I think that film looked like it was gonna Be

a lot of fun if I had got to see the whole thing

Did we watch anything, Nate? We watched Stripes.

Oh yeah, we watched Stripes. I love Stripes.

Yeah. It's a lot longer than I thought it was.

Well, we watched the extended edition with all

the deleted scenes. Yeah, for those of you that

don't know, obviously other films have probably

done this too, but there's the extended version

of Stripes when you watch it. It just puts up

like this symbol every time one of the non -theatrical

scenes comes up and it's like, hey, cut scene's

starting right now. Um, and you know, most of

them are what you usually see for your deleted

scene. It's like, you know, a minute or two minutes

of stuff that sometimes is important. Sometimes

isn't. There's a cut scene in stripes. That is

literally like 10 to 15 minutes long and, and

has like an entire different whole plot aspect

that you wouldn't even know happened if you watched

like the regular one, like because they're on

an army base and this isn't necessarily this

one. I think in the movie has been out for like

30 years. Um, But they're obviously on the army

base doing their basic training and whatnot.

And at one point Harold Ramis and Bill Murray

leave the army base. This is not included in

the theatrical release. They leave the army base.

They like get on a plane because Harold Ramis

is tripping on acid or something. And then like

an actual like legit Air Force or army group

comes on the plane and they like convince them

that they're supposed to be there. And then they

like get pushed out of the plane and they like

land in the middle of a forest with some like

What kind of cartel was that? I think it was

supposed to be like Colombian or something. Yeah.

And then they have they're like chatting with

the Colombians and like all doing drugs or whatever.

And then they like escape during a dance off

and then somehow get back to the plane and come

all the way back to the camp. And all that's

just a deleted scene. Never happened. I was questioning

the whole time. I'm like, wait a second. Is this

still a deleted scene? Did they forget to say

that this is where it ended? Just interesting.

It was one of the most interesting deleted scenes

I think I've ever seen. And they do make a reference

to it later. That makes you kind of realize that

they were referencing to that, but they have

a way around it so that it didn't matter that

the scene was out. But yeah, I love stripes.

I don't know. What did you think of stripes in

general, Nate? I liked it. It had a great like

it works well as a movie because it has great

characters and great like plot and But the thing

with with comedies is when you go back and you

watch a really old comedy. It's probably not

as punchy as it originally was because comedy

is just the sort of thing that keeps evolving

and Just because of the way comedy works. It's

like if something is old and you've heard it

then it's not funny anymore. So you kind of have

to keep up with the new stuff to see good comedy,

but But I still think it works great as a film.

It's a it's really really fun. I can watch a

bill Murray do just about anything Yeah, especially

back in that time period So that was that was

all the films. I saw I don't know Matt did you

see anything else? I didn't watch any movies

But I would like to plug the fact that Hulu has

Sailor Moon up for like the first time ever and

I watched a bunch of that excellent Well, I did

see a kill Bill volume one and two And yeah,

Kevin, you just came home. I was like, oh, is

this Kill Bill? And I was like, yeah. And then

you sat down and it was like at the very end

of Kill Bill volume two. And you were just watching

it like, oh, this is good. And I was like, have

you seen this movie? And you were like, no. Like,

what the heck were you doing? You should think

you missed out on the first five hours of the

movie. So they shut it off. So I didn't see any

more. That is one that can be ruined. Like, yeah.

Anyway, no, I'm just kidding me Dan. Do you see

anything this week? I did see one thing and we'll

go a great detail exactly They have a review

at keycast theater comm that's snowpiercer. I

know you guys talked about the trailer a few

weeks back It's actually it's been released overseas

when the kids come over here yet, but it is The

idea behind it is there after a global warming

experiment to try to fix it goes wrong The entire

world is frozen and only people alive are on

top of this in there or in this train Highly

advanced train called the snowpiercer. It's based

on a french graphic novel and as well because

i'm a big fan of the director He is the korean

south korean director. He did one of my favorite

films in 2010 called mother also did the host

which is a really good like campy, uh disaster

like monster movie Um, I know you guys are talking

about like you love the old godzilla films and

like that type of feel if you do I would highly

recommend the house because it's very reminiscent

of that type of stuff and As a director. He has

a lot of quirkiness to him. He has a lot of like

kind of um His comedy is very Subversive at times

I guess but I really like snow pierce is a great

deal I know when you guys talked about the trailer

you mentioned that it looked like it could be

very heavy -handed And it is but it's almost

so heavy -handed that it's not anymore. It's

just it makes you aware of what it's trying to

do It sets up its allegorical like framework

and it goes from there. Um, some fun set in pieces

It's just really like good genre film. I compared

it to like a john carpenter back in the day where

it's just it's You know a little bit on the cheap

side some of the special effects aren't necessarily

all that fantastic, but it's a lot of fun It's

got a unique story. It kind of really uses that

framework of A world inside a train. It does

some fun things with it And there's a lot of

good characters and Chris Evans is really good

in it a lot of different talent in it I mean

it at Harris even a Paris for a short bit So

I definitely recommend that and that's there

is something you need to see in theaters But

once it comes to like home media, you might want

to check that out I'm just impressed with how

knowledgeable you are at our past episodes. I'm

appreciative that you're listening. But yeah,

I think that would look like it would be an interesting

one to check out once it comes, you know, red

box or on demand or something like that. I'm

not going to lie, he just sold me on it and I

looked up the host came out in 2005. Yeah, about

that, I believe so. It's it's on Amazon, so I'll

be able to watch that too. All right. So it's

very uh, he it's I'm sure some people might think

it's corny in some ways But I think it's like

it knows what it's doing and like I said, the

special effects aren't amazing, but they're effective

and they're at least Effective in what they're

trying to do. So All right. So I guess we can

get into our main attraction. It sounds about

right, right? Yep All right, so I spend days

of future past directed by brian singer starring

pretty much everyone ever Michael Fassbender

Patrick Stewart all these different casts A lot

of hype going into this one, like I mentioned,

was my most anticipated movie of the year. And

I guess we'll kind of go around here. I'm kind

of curious about what your anticipation level

was and what you what your overall thoughts were

of X -Men days, the days of future past. I don't

I wasn't really anticipating it that much. I've

never been a huge, huge fan of the X -Men movies.

They've just kind of been. Fun distractions and

then once like an Avengers movie would come out

get more into that one but I Ended up liking

this one a whole lot probably more than any other

one I've seen but Kevin what about you? As we

talked about when we talked about our most anticipated

films, this is obviously very high on my list

as well and I Don't know like out of The whole

I love time travel. I know it's hard to do well

in films and it causes a lot of problems as we

read in the article the other week about what

you call it never going to be doing another time

travel story ever in his life. I just like the

idea of it. I also like that it's being done

by a franchise that had a misstep along the way.

Couples. So it's like their way of correcting

them possibly. But even more so for me, I was

just looking forward to seeing the two different

casts basically interact or share screen time,

et cetera, with the first class, the younger

versions, and obviously the ones that we're used

to in the first three X -Men films. And I like

X -Men. I don't know a lot about the background

between them. I don't... know the comic history

of them there's probably a lot of characters

that appeared in this film that I don't have

a clue who they were and I'll probably be asking

you guys multiple questions in the next half

hour to 45 minutes or however long we talk about

it to try to get clarification on some things

but my anticipation level was high and I don't

feel like I was disappointed too much walking

out I didn't really have major issues or problems

with it so yeah I enjoyed the film and I'm not

I'm interested to see where this discussion goes,

but what about you Matt? Well Honestly, I'm looking

forward more to you asking me questions about

the comic books that I was this movie at all

I came in like I remember when my boss first

told me about it like I don't know five months

ago He's like yeah, I do a movie. I said a Wolverine

back in time. I was like whoa Did we jump a shark

when I didn't get told? terrible And when I watched

the trailers, I turned to my friends, I was like,

are you seeing this? They're doing this in a

movie? And they're like, yeah, it looks awesome.

I'm like, no, no, it doesn't. So I went in with

very low expectations. And then I watched First

Class last week, and it didn't really sell me

on the series, although I really, I don't know

if I'd ever seen Fassbender or anything, and

he did a really good job, and McAvoy did a really

good job. And it's like, I wasn't super impressed,

but it wasn't bad. So. You know, I could I could

get nothing but up from where my opinion was

going in So what do you think of it overall?

Oh overall, um, yeah, probably the most enjoyable

x -men movie in a decade Interesting Well, I

guess I guess I said I was really highly anticipating

this and I was a huge fan of x -men first class

Honestly, I thought honestly it's probably in

my book maybe the best marvel movie bar none

mainly because it it It's powered mostly by its

characters and it doesn't really get too involved

in the plot. And I just loved the relationship

between McAvoy and James McAvoy, McElfaispender.

I just, I think they're just two acting heavyweights

who are giving better performances than really

any other Marvel movie. So that really had me

excited and knowing that they're kind of combining

both of these casts and seeing how that's gonna

go. And yeah, I did overall really enjoy X -Men

Days of Future Past. I still think I like X -Men

First Class better just because I feel it's a

tighter movie. But overall, I think it considering

all the different things you have going on here,

you basically have two adventure movies going

at the same time. And then you're throwing in

time travel. So many things can go wrong. Such

a huge cast. It's but it all works. I think it's

very effective. It balances both sides really

well. It gets into like the heart of the characters

I think one thing the extra movies have done

better than the Marvel movies and really any

other comic movies besides maybe The Nolan Batman

movies. It's thematic. That is a lot sharper

than those. There's more to it It has relationships

that mean something and it has Like real -world

implications where something like the Avengers

is fun piece of entertainment, but it's not very

deep And that's what I've always liked about

the X -Men franchise Going back from its inception

from the first movie. So So yeah, that's my overall

beginning thoughts, but I guess I know how we

want to start this conversation There's a lot

to kind of get into But I guess let's start with

you know, what what made it very good like what

what did we what first came out? I'm trying to

think of how it's a little rusty here. I apologize

If you're asking what kind of things stood out

to us most and what kind of things made us enjoy

the film the most, I think some of it you're

touching on, but there's just a bunch of actors

that are really fun to watch in this film. I

mean, Patrick Stewart and, I mean, you talked

about how Fassbender and McEvoy interact. It's

so interesting that they got such a good pair

to interact as the young version, but they have

an even on par or better pair as the older versions

because seeing Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen,

I'm getting the right old person, right? Yeah,

you're right. Seeing those two interact is just

about as fun. Not as much screen time in this

film as you would expect since it was kind of

taking off with the first -class Crew more so

but just seeing though all four of those people

and I mean Hugh Jackman's basically was made

for this role I Don't know how they could have

gotten anybody else to be a more perfect Wolverine

I'm not saying all his films have been perfect

as the Wolverine, but but he fits that part so

well. So I mean, there was just fun acting going

on all over the place, not to mention Peter Dinklage.

They're just fun people to watch, and almost

every scene there is a cool actor to just observe

and enjoy. So I think that was one of the things

that did it for me, but also just seeing the

number of different mutants that they show. It

always had you kind of looking to see, you know,

the different... personalities that they were

bringing up, even if someone like me doesn't

know who they all are. That was fun. But what

did you like the best about it, Nate? Probably

the characters. Yeah, I do. I did like how comic

bookie the plot was. It was like. It was like

dumb comic book writing, but in a fun way, and

it didn't. like make it a bad movie or anything

like like it. I don't know how to explain it.

It's just like we're going to throw in time travel

and we're going to throw in like post apocalyptic

stuff and we're going to throw in like giant

robots and it's like, cool. I'm down with all

of this. Like it had one of the most like fun

plots of a movie. And I don't know, I like how

convoluted it actually was. I don't know if like

regular movie going people that you know when

normally go see like they saw the Avengers because

everyone talked about the Avengers if they were

to go see this if they would be like on board

with all the crazy stuff happening like like

the time travel and stuff like I don't know how

they would react but I I live for that kind of

weird stuff and and plus time travel is my favorite

thing of like if you can throw time travel in

it in a in a story, I'm with you. What about

you, Matt? Well, I think we can all agree that

the characters are the shining thing in this

movie. I love actually the future stuff where

it's like, they're not going to give you the

names. You're going to see the powers only when

they're in action. They're not going to explain

anything. It's just like, just throw all of this

huge gallery of mutants at these sentinels and

we'll just watch it. And it's a spectacle and

it's fun. And that's exactly what I wanted. And

they were talking about how it's like well, maybe

we threw too many mutants in and they cut out

a couple of mutants I've heard that they shot

things with other guys and just cut it out entirely

And it's like they could have added another 10

mutants you wouldn't hear me complaining as long

as they did You know spend an hour explaining

them and everything. Yeah I think you I'm glad

you brought that up just interject real quick

because I thought about that that was one of

my first actual like thoughts I had as I was

watching the film is I was thinking back and

I love how this whole franchise has done that

at times where they don't necessarily feel the

need to hit you in the face with who it is or

have someone calling by name or do something

like that like there is I guess some form of

subtlety and how they insert mutants into this

film. I'm not saying at times they don't do that

but they're not afraid it seems like over the

course of this whole franchise to just have characters

that you have to figure out who they are on your

own or you you know for the more knowledgeable

people they would recognize them and know without

being told but it's just like it's kind of a

cool element that it's not just like in your

face like hey this is this person with this power

now we're going to show you this like it's just

in the background and it's I like that better.

I think that's one of the benefits of having

mutants is the fact that you don't have to have

some sort of factory accident to explain everyone's

power. It's just it's just like they're born

that way and just. Yeah, that's the exact reason

why they created the X -Men is because they got

tired of making origin stories. Yeah, yeah. So

it's a huge help because Matt mentioned it with

the future sequences and all the mutants. And

I loved how like they brought Bishop up and you

can tell that, hey, He absorbed other people's

powers and they just show you that they don't

have to go to an explanation of it I love blink

like I thought the use of her power in this was

awesome and I hope we get a blink movie because

I just loved how they used her and I love her

that character since she was she came up in each

of apocalypse so hoping she comes back because

I just loved how they displayed her power I think

it led to a lot of creative uses of their powers

and that's one thing too I think I like about

X -Men over the Avengers though. I love the Avengers.

It's a fun movie is that the X -Men have powers

that are unique within ourselves. When you look

at the Avengers, it's a lot of punching and kicking,

but the powers of the X -Men give them different

abilities and they can be more creative with

things like teleportation or Magneto, something

like his use of guns and not to give it anything

away, but in this particular moment where he

gets kind of tackled and there's a gun like,

oh, he's out there shooting, but oh, no, he's

Magneto. So he's able to still shoot the gun

and then you see him use the bullet. I like the

creativity of his powers and what they do with

it. I think that gives active sequences that

don't become repetitive. They can kind of change

things up from from each moment. Matt, getting

back to some of the others, and I agree with

everything that Dan just said, like I like the

uniqueness of what they're able to do. And I

think there is some more creative stuff with

even some more characters that we haven't talked

about yet that we'll get to in a second. But,

Matt, you had some other things that you liked

about it, too, right? Yeah. Cut I'll cut you

off. So I didn't want to give you not a chance

to finish I don't know. Um, I think mystique

is a character that Like didn't get as I don't

know. I don't remember the old ones as much as

I probably should I have they were 15 years ago

so I'm coming some slack, but uh, like I don't

remember mystique being as Strong and independent

as she was in this and like in the comic books

like she's way more independent strong And you

know, you need we need leading females and stuff

and I like that when they do that And so I like

that element of it. If only they could cast a

really strong leading fumo that wasn't the bad

guy. Wow. She was like gray. I mean, she was

it's like being like the bad guy who wanted to

kill Hitler, you know. That's the other thing,

that actually brings up a great point about X

-Men though. Like there is, and you guys will

know more and maybe I'm completely off on this,

but just from the actual theatrical films, there

seems to be a lot of grayness. There's not necessarily

always your cut and dry, black and white, good

guys and bad guys because I think what Dan brought

up before, the plots and the whole idea of the

X -Men and the mutants and humans, et cetera,

there's just a lot more. Like I don't know like

debates and issues that are It's not just like

it's not just cut and dry and like there's It

gets into deeper elements that it doesn't necessarily

hit you in the face with but but deeper human

elements and You know even like a character like

Magneto like, you know He's definitely not just

cut and dry black and white bad guy good guy

and I think mystique has that too. And there's

been some other characters throughout the franchise

that have that. So that's kind of an interesting

thing, too, is there's not always necessarily

just that bad guy, like stereotypical role. I

think that made sense. Yeah. Basically, the motivations

behind some of the more villains in some of the

movies are legitimate concerns, because you think

about it when you have someone like Magneto and

you're trying to protect the country. You do

have that fine line. OK, what's. you know, what's

protection and once you enter like a totalitarian

state where you have too much control. So I think

it allows that to happen because it's like, yeah,

this guy can kind of just walk in and try to

indicate like a nuclear destruction just because

he feels like it. So maybe there is some legitimacy

here. So I think that helps it out a lot because

there is something there that's not just, hey,

I want to take over the world. You know, there's

something that's legitimate to build upon. Yeah,

you know and another thing I like about this

film that obviously the element of time travel

allows you to do is Goodness gracious. They're

doing something that the Avengers universe sure

hasn't done and that was kill off people Obviously

they can you know bring them all back with the

time travel element but just to see the Idea

of them dying on screen call me morbid, but I

enjoy that Yeah, it gives you a feeling that,

you know, hey, they actually can die, even if

at the end of it, no one's dead. You can be like,

well, they can die. Right. They're not they're

not gods. And there were some interesting death

scenes. Yeah, I mean, it definitely, you know,

rode that PGPG 13, you know, rating very strictly.

Yeah, seriously, there was a couple of scenes

that I was like, is this an R rated movie? And

then they said, like. Like the S word and the

F word in the same scene. And I was just like,

OK, this is an already X -Men movie. What's going

on? Yeah. They were on the borderline. They use

their one F word effectively, just like first

class did. Yeah. Other things that people liked

a lot about this film or moments or elements

about it that they wanted to bring up. One thing

I did like we talked about within. The when I

first actually saw this movie twice the first

time I walked I walked out I was there's almost

so much it was hard to kind of digest everything

that happened. I'm like think I got everything

but I wasn't really sure but I think watching

a second time helped a lot just to see all the

little tidbits. I also just like a lot of the

little nods to the past films. I know within

the X -Men movie franchise continuity is not

their best friend. There's a lot of issues if

you try to match up the timeline it's impossible.

Like I mentioned I think they're freaking getting

the fact that X -Men first or that Wolverine

origins ever happened because of this, the ages

and stuff like that. But I liked how, yes, Wolverine

was brought into the past and I was worried that

it's OK, Wolverine didn't come and save the day

and not to give anything away. How that necessarily

didn't just happen. I liked how they had to make

things more complicated. And I wasn't expecting

the bone claws, which I'm not the biggest fan

of. But I think in the end, I kind of got why

they did it. So it wasn't just Wolverine coming

in like, you know, destroying all the sentinels

and the day is over. I think it made things a

little bit more complicated for them. And too,

I wanted to bring up a couple people that we

haven't talked about or a couple things and I

don't know how much of a spoiler this will be

or not. So if you don't want to be spoiled, you

might want to proceed with caution, I guess.

But did anybody find it interesting? Because

obviously we had, if you take the original X

-Men trilogy, Most of the characters from that

appear at some point or another Except for Mystique

never appears, right? Like old mystique right

future mystique She did in the first class for

a brief little cameo or we're back and remain

stay most dead But right but in this one even

though she was one of the main characters in

the the past portion of it She doesn't appear

at all in the future, correct? No, though if

you look at X -Men 3 was because she looked maybe

because technically she lost her powers in that

so Okay, I just I was I was thinking about that

after the fact It didn't necessarily come up

to my mind at all during the film But then afterwards

I was like thinking about the actors that are

playing the young version compared to the old

version I'm like wait a second There was no old

version of Mystique in this one and the other

one I wanted to bring up and you can feel free

to talk about either character But we haven't

talked about Quicksilver at all. Oh Yeah, you

make a good point there Which I know like going

into this everything I saw about Quicksilver.

I thought looked awful like his Whole portrayal.

I thought like the all the marketing stuff behind

Quicksilver was pretty Like laughable at times,

but I was I mean I was eat my words because I

thought he had maybe the best scene the entire

movie Which is probably the only moment in this

that had any sort of levity everything else was

kind of dark But I think he brought a lot of

fun to the movie. So What about you guys? What

was your opinion on Quicksilver? I think he did

it really well there where it's like, I don't

know, it looked really dumb and stupid in the

trailers and everything, but once he got into

it, it was fun and it worked and it wasn't over

the top, which it really could have been with

a little bit more probably. Also, there was that

moment where it's like, wow, he seems really

overpowered. If they keep him around for the

rest of this movie, it's gonna be just him winning.

That did come to my mind about When they got

too closer towards the end scene, I'm like, why

didn't they not just bring Quicksilver with them?

He would have solved a lot of this. There's there's

plenty of moments like that in the movie where

it's just like they really should have just used

Quicksilver the whole time. And I don't even

remember why he left. He was just like, hey,

I helped you guys out. All right. Later. Well,

he's like, I mean, they can't drag him around

through government things and it'd be totally

unfair. I was uh, I was listening to other people

talk about the movie and they were they were

saying like the same thing like Like kind of

like not They were they were saying bad about

it how they were like, oh, well, they had this

huge plot hole where they had this really overpowered

character and they didn't use them and it's just

like Yeah, but sometimes you just got to write

that way to make a better movie like I don't

know people nitpick too much sometimes If you

think that just wait till it picks when I get

bring mine up Oh, good. I really enjoyed Quicksilver

a lot. I thought his character was well done.

I thought the scenes with him, like Dan said,

added a little bit of humor slash levity to the

film, which was needed from a film that otherwise

was relatively, like you said, heavy. But I guess

some of my first questions here and obviously

as everybody knows it's listened to my weekly

I am a comic book Ignoramus So I don't know the

history of a lot of these characters, and I don't

know what they refer to at certain times during

the movies So I need to ask you guys a couple

questions about Quicksilver He is Magneto's son

correct his oldest child well arguably I think

Polaris might be older, but yeah, okay, and then

how old was Michael Fassbender's version of Magneto?

Well in this he was a kid during World War two

he was like ten years old so You know that's

legit. Yeah, he's like 40 now Okay Michael Fassbender

looks so young And then he makes Did what was

the reference that he made to his father during

the film? Oh you control metal my mom knew a

guy who could do that Did he say that yeah But

we talked about this right after the movie Nate.

I Thought like I thought you were saying they

could have added that in not My further question

was and I brought this up Is magneto is not aware

that that is his son? No, and there's no There

you go No, he doesn't I don't think he does or

he seems unaware of it and there's also in the

climax. There's a An image of like the like Quicksilver

with his sister who can begin a student scarlet

witch and also use his mom the background And

she's obviously looking at the screen that has

Magneto on it You can see that she's kind of

shocked at what she's saying. So I think it's

just kind of tying everything together Okay,

second question not about Cook Silver and I guess

again some some small spoiler alerts here, but

at one point Magneto is trying to retrieve his

helmet and they're in a Secured facility where

his helmet is being kept behind glass in a secret

room vault slash whatever There's a variety of

other things in there. What was the significance

of those things? Well, one of them were the wings

of pixie or well, okay, so in the previous movie

first class They had a character with pixie wings

that they called angel Which one didn't make

a whole lot of sense because they already had

an angel mutant in x3 But then to she looked

in acted exactly like a character called pixie

who has pixie wings So they were angels wings

was one of them. I don't know what the other

one was The other thing was the thing Havoc had

an x1 first class. Oh, yeah. Yeah be designed

for him to kind of control his power, who was

also had a brief like little cameo in this. Yeah.

All right. That helps. OK. And again, it's been

a long time since I've seen the other X -Men

films I wanted to see first class right before

this, but it is just not possible for me to do

so. As far as all of the side characters and

the different mutants that showed up whether

it be cameos or unspoken parts or even small

spoken parts What were some of your guys's favorite

characters that you saw show up outside of the

the main cast? I'm guessing to start with Matt

What were some of the the people that you obviously,

you know Probably recognize most of them and

knew who they were like what were some of the

favorite people that you saw show up? Well, as

I think I've said in every mwire for like the

last month, I like Blink is and probably my top

three favorite means of all time So the fact

that we got her was great, but then how much

and how well they used her was just amazing and

that was one thing that really upset me was of

all the cameos of towards the end like that,

but anyway So that was my favorite I exist actually

where my nitpick is is the guy who looks like

the human torch I actually had to go on IMDB

and search who it was cuz I was pretty sure it

was just gonna be Sunfire The thing that'd be

great about using Sunfire is that's his power

set and also They could bring in a Japanese guy

because he's Japanese So then they could you

know add diversity because that's one of those

things Hollywood is always looking for a chance

to do Instead they used Sunspot who's Brazilian

and different Who's again same power set but

less known? Sunfire becomes one of the horsemen

of apocalypse. So having him and then using him

again in the next movie Would have been a good

idea. I think they didn't do that because he's

actually going to be in that big hero six movie.

Oh, is he? I didn't I didn't watch the trailers

for that. I'm sorry. He's not actually in the

trailer, but he's been in the poster images they've

been using. Oh, OK. Well, that might not be good

to use him as well. They might not have the rights

to him then, huh? Well, no, it's still Disney.

It's Disney for both of them. Way Oh, yeah, that's

right. I don't know. I yeah. All right I'm pretty

sure Sunfire is the brother of silver samurai

and didn't they use them in the x -men movie?

Yeah Some of the licensing on this is really

weird. What just like cuz they're gonna have

quick silver and the vendor so I don't know maybe

what the mutants it's like whatever yeah Marvel

for dummies book There's a diagram that has some

of the bigger characters But some of the smaller

ones when you get to like the minutiae of like

the different mutants. It's like who knows I

hope they call quicksilver Pietro and in the

X there in the Avengers because naming him Peter.

It seems I don't jingoistic or something like

we can't give him a less American name What was

the nitpick that you're gonna come up with as

far as the camera was at the end No, that was

the nitpick, not the cameos at the end, but at

the beginning. Oh, I didn't want to be spoilery,

but they didn't show Blink at the end. They kept

showing all these people at the end, and they

didn't show Blink, and that has me worried. She

was entirely 100 % pivotal to the Age of Apocalypse

story, so I can't imagine they're not going to

use her. Especially if they get a good reaction

from this film with her character as it seems

a lot of people are reacting well to it Nate

some of your favorite characters that showed

up in this film Definitely blink. I just love

the way they used your powers the I was just

thinking to myself when I was watching it just

like whoever designed or whoever Choreographed

this fight scene like played portal like they

knew exactly what they were doing But other than

that, I don't know. Ellen Page is fun to see

again, but she didn't really do much in this

movie. She held her hands up. Yeah, she held

her hands. She had one good line. Yeah, that

was about it. So late asshole or something like

that show. Yeah, Bishop looked great. But again,

didn't really get too much from him, but he looked

fantastic as a character, as as character design

goes. But I don't know other than that I think

Like the main cast is super strong Fun to watch

but yeah, what about you Dan? Well, I guess he's

not a cameo, but I like Nicholas Nicholas Holt

as Beast I do enjoy like his portrayal that character

especially again like the relationship between

him and kind of Raven and Xavier I like the warpath

a little bit. I mean he he was a little stereotypical

Native American, but That's kind of the character.

And I just like the one death scene. Well, it's

like you can tell people die at the beginning.

But I like one of the death scenes he has that

I thought was pretty cool just in how it was

handled. But and I I'm still debating, but the

look of the sentinels at sometimes I think they

look really cool at other times. I didn't like

them, but not that they're mutant characters.

But I just like the fact that we're getting them

in an X -Men movie. Finally. Oh, speaking of

other characters. Sorry, Nixon was great. Oh,

yeah, they got a great Nixon. I was just gonna

say that exact same thing. I'm like, I don't

know if you can find a better person to play

Nixon. Oh, also, I hope you go. He's a hard person

to do, too, because he's so, you know, he's such

an easy joke or he's so over the top that he

appears on screen and people just naturally laugh

at him. So I think it was effective enough. Were

you saying that? Oh, I was gonna say. Cameo I

forgot to mention was they had Kelsey Grammer

and that made me so happy I? Must have missed

that when did they do that? right at the end

He was literally just like sup Wolverine Make

up and had him say like two words and walk off

screen. It was perfect Yeah, I remember I remember

that part now I did like probably got paid more

for that than he did for the Wizard of Oz movie

He made they all didn't get credit either in

the in the film Those are all uncredited Wow

as far as Kelsey grammar and like a fancy Jansen

and James Marsden Like those are all uncredited

roles and not that it's a cameo But I like they

had a little nod in I guess we're already kind

of smiling at anyways, but near the end with

the relationship between Kitty pride and Colossus

you kind of see that they're kind of teaching

a class together. So I mean, I don't think the

actor that does Colossus is amazing. I don't

think he said an entire word for the entire movie.

But I do like that. I do like Colossus and I

did like the look of him. So. Yeah. All right.

What about what about the nitpicks? Who wants

to start with anything that they didn't like

about this film? I think Matt, you said you had

a couple. So why don't we start with you? I just

had the Sunspot Sunfire one actually, which I

totally agree. I also I mean, are we are we doing

spoilers? Like, cause I guess I could do mostly

spoiler free just the way Magneto interacted

with the sentinels was kind of like, what? I

don't know if that's, but other than that, yeah.

I don't really have that. No, I liked the way,

I liked that. That was so cool. I was somewhat,

and I guess, yeah, there is spoilers here. So

I was somewhat hoping that, that Trask. was going

to actually attempt to use it in a way and that

it just wasn't going to work. And there was going

to be that moment where it was like, why, what,

why isn't this working right? Where there would

be that realization that Magneto had done what

he did. But I kind of, I don't know, I didn't

mind how he did it. I was so confused for a while

as to why, what he was doing with the baseball

stadium. Why is he moving a baseball stadium

around and then it obviously all made sense once

He set it down, but I was just like I was so

confused for like three minutes as to what was

the purpose of this He wasn't a fan of the national

I Mean some of my some of the issues I had I

I like Peter Dinklage as an actor I think he's

a really great actor and necessarily they gave

a bad performance, but I just thought Trask as

a character was kind of Lacking. I don't know.

I was hoping more from him and it just I guess

with so much going on He kind of got lost in

the shuffle a little bit and I wasn't the biggest

fan of some of the set design for the future

sets They just look I I get there, you know It's

supposed to be this still be in like the world's

like coming to end but I just felt the set design

looked really barren like they forgot to put

things up because there's like It looked like

a little cheap. I guess I don't know but That

was my bigger. My bigger issue was just I thought

football trash didn't I was hoping for more and

they didn't really give him much to do. I can

agree with that as far as the set pieces, except

for the one that I really did like was when they

showed it from afar, where it was just shown

as like that the kind of side of the mountain

type. Yeah, that's that looked cool. I was wondering,

I guess it's not nitpick. I don't know. But there

was two things that I was thinking as I was watching

the film and one was at the very beginning. I

was worried as to how easily Hugh Jackman or

Wolverine, how easily Wolverine was able to convince

both Xavier and Magneto of his mission and how

quickly they jumped aboard. It kind of fixed

itself as the movie went on because obviously

Magneto wasn't as... cooperative, as he maybe

had first led on. But there was just a moment

at the beginning where I'm like, wait a second,

that should be harder. Like, they set it up with,

with Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen, like the

older versions, like, good luck with that. You

have to get these two guys to cooperate in a

time where they don't really want to. And it

just seemed like it was easy at first, like.

Don't know like I was I was wanting to feel more

struggle and and for it to take a little bit

longer But I guess you kind of realize what the

movie like this. They don't have a lot of time

to do stuff like that And like I said as I felt

like it somewhat fixed itself as it progressed

But my initial thought when they when he was

first doing that was that was way too easy Yeah,

I could see that like you said I think it does

kind of in almost like okay They buy into it,

but I think eventually you see there a little

bit more question there, especially Xavier. I

think Fassbender was maybe or Magneto was more

easy to buy on. But to go back, I missed this.

But to go back regarding that issue, regarding

them kind of buying into it, I do think like

the best theme in the entire movie was actually

not to spoil anything when you see one of the

past selves and the future selves kind of interact.

I thought that was like an amazing scene. And

I just love seeing like, I think Mactavoy is

a great actor. And so was Stuart. And I think

that really got into the heart of what makes

the X -Men Movies like some of my favorite films.

So I just love that motivation and how it how

that panned out But I do agree that it's like,

okay, I'm just gonna get on this airplane now

I'm like wait, you were just you know, I don't

know but I did like the reasoning he was there

I thought that was kind of cool by why I mean

either wasn't that concrete structure or whatever.

Oh, yeah Any other people that had Nate did you

have issues or anything that you questioned or

whatever throughout the film? The biggest issue

I had was the audience we were with, but that's

the movie's fault. No, I mean, there were probably

like... It's probably not the smartest written

movie in terms of having to explain everything,

but it was too much fun to care about it. It

was just a fun movie and I really enjoyed it.

Dan, any other issues that you didn't get a chance

to bring up yet? Issues are trying to think of

what else Not necessarily issues. I mean there

was a sequence in which you talked about the

sentinels and you know what happened to them

and and you see like bag, you know kind of interacting

with them and using like rail Using rails and

I thought that looked that seen I like the idea

of it, but I didn't think it looked very effective

Yeah, I can see that too in a way, but that's

really just kind of getting into Small things

but overall I mean and I guess a bigger issue

necessarily a nitpick was it though was a time

travel movie and it you you know, it's the with

X -Men you have like the idea of it being like

an allegorical Reflection of diversity and like

those issues how it didn't really use like the

past that much like it didn't really say anything

Of that time and how it was reflected. There's

a little bit regarding like man's Regarding like

man's over Trust and regarding technology because

when you have revealed the sentinels you have

Nixon quoting Oppenheimer after would be a drop

the atomic bomb I believe so I thought that was

a little bit not but overall I don't think it

really used the past that much nearly as much

as like first -class did And then my other issue,

which I don't know might not might be kind of

nitpicky or whatnot But and I know time travel

is really hard to do But I felt like possibly

there could have been more effects in the future

world of what was going on in the past world

because it seemed like, you know, Wolverine was

there for a while and stuff was happening and

interactions were happening. And there was no

like little minor things that were seemingly

being affected in the future versions of these

people. Not that we were getting a whole lot

of the world there. We were just getting that

one setting. But it seemed like there was nothing,

nothing, nothing. And then all of a sudden one

thing happens and everything changes. um again

i don't necessarily have a problem with it but

i could see like maybe it would have helped to

have like a little tiny thing happen or maybe

i'm just like a sucker for back to the future

where like people are disappearing and stuff

like that yeah you actually explain that Was

that like you wanted like a portrait of the X

-Men that he was holding in his pocket and people

I wanted one of the one of the mutants that was

fighting out there with the sentinels to just

disappear Yeah, I really I really thought that

that Wolverine was gonna disappear at one point

But no, they actually explained it where like

Ellen Page she's got her hands out and if once

she let goes then that's the new like that Then

everything changes so she has until she takes

her hands away That's why it was supposed to

be super tense when like she like almost took

her hand off That that's the thing is that like

they said that and they did set that up. I guess

like as soon as you wake up That's gonna snap

change and then when they had that moment of

like, oh is it gonna like it should have done

something like that like had Yeah Like they could

have totally done it and it would have been acceptable

in cannon universe And then I guess my only my

last thing and again. This is a total nitpick

But I was somewhat Surprised as to how long it

took the sentinels to find them In the future,

but maybe not as much time was passing Well,

I mean they were using time travel to avoid them

and then like like the the one time it's like

all of a sudden instead of like two it's a thousand

so maybe maybe they just needed that time to

gather their forces right um because maybe they

maybe their detections were like whoa this has

got every one here let's just send all of the

sentinels let's corner them you don't want to

mess with sentinels though i mean they pretty

much set themselves up to be like one of the

best fighting forces to ever grace the theater

yeah Talking about like how it kind of showed

you and didn't tell you just how in the beginning

you see how the sentinel power worked where Now

one's getting frozen and then and then you see

other ones getting heated and then they like

transverse each other's power I thought that

was kind of cool to let you know like yeah pretty

much you can't really stop them They're pretty

badass, but they do kind of look like the aliens

from science a little bit Don't know. I don't

know if I'm the only one that's all man. That

movie was great until they showed the aliens

Of course a lot, you know better rendered in

those but they just had like the I don't like

the black sheer black, you know figure or whatever

And so I guess it would be fitting again spoiler

alert for those that haven't seen it but to talk

briefly about the credit scene and opinions or

reactions to that, even though we somewhat already

knew what the next movie was going to be about.

What did you feel about the end credits scene,

Matt? I liked it. I mean, especially after Spider

-Man 2 having nothing, I was so happy that this

one had something there. I don't know. Like,

it was great. And I like that they threw out

a name. that wasn't one that would be immediately

recognizable to non comic book fans. Oh yes.

So no idea who they were showing or what they

were showing in that scene. Oh really? Are we

gonna like do you want me to tell you now or

when we're not recording? You can tell me when

we're not recording that's fine. They've already

released the name of the next movie. So I don't

know how much of a spoiler it is Yeah, it's definitely

not like a spoiler I mean, I know it's about

X -Men apocalypse and that's what we're going

to but I don't know what that I don't have no

idea what that is so they were chanting in Sabah

unur which is apocalypse his name before like

before he took apocalypse because everyone has

a Secret identity and then an alias and so he's

apocalypse But when he was the first mutant in

ancient Egypt, he was inside a nur And so that's

what they were chanting and that's who that was

with the blue skin and the four horsemen And

they they they alluded to the fact that he has

the four horsemen of the apocalypse on his team

Gotcha. Do they have like specific names that

we would know in personalities? Yeah death famine

It's uh, I can't remember them all but Sunfire

is one of them Yeah, but I mean like uh Sunfire

was famine. I don't know. There's been a few

of them. I mean, Wolverine was an agent like

a horseman of the apocalypse. He was death. And

so was Angel when he became Archangel. Yeah.

They've all kind of they've had different ones.

Gambit was even a horseman in a storyline. Most

people like to forget. But he's right. So I guess

my final thought on this film would be seeing

this film. Seeing the uncredited scene, knowing

what the title is and what the content is for

the next one. We talked about how excited we

were, how much, and we were either anticipating

or not anticipating days of future past. How

does that leave you as far as the state of, are

you excited, looking forward to, not looking

forward to the next X -Men film, Dan? I'm certainly

looking forward to it. I mean, I do, I really

like the character of Apocalypse. Actually have

a gigantic apocalypse on my desk right now The

toy so I do like him. I'm curious where they're

gonna go with it and we talked about before recording

Are they gonna do it with like in the 80s or

is it gonna be like a full -on age of apocalypse

story? Yeah, so I'm excited for sure. I more

much more I know I don't know. But yeah, I was

excited. I'm like the x -men movie So as long

as Britton Ratner is not directing I'll be there

All right Nate, what about you? Yeah, I'm excited

for it although I am I Don't know. It's like

it's exciting, but it's also kind of weird because

they're making movies to make more movies So

it's like self -perpetuating itself like they're

not like I'm a little worried that eventually

they'll get to the point where they're just making

bad movies to keep making bad movies like Because

people will go to see him it seems So there is

there was that concern that I talked with mad

about like I was like Dude, if they did what

they did in this movie, they could do this to

any movie. What's to stop them from doing this

to like the Avengers? Because, you know, man,

I don't know. It's it's it's it's a little worrisome,

but I I'm still I'm still excited for the new

one. And that. Such on what Nate just said, his

concern was like, why don't they just have a

go back in time and fix any movie when they need

to get a new cast or anything? And I don't know,

like it worked here. It worked really well. Yeah,

like like I definitely liked this movie, but

it's just like it's now it's like now that has

been done. It's like, yeah, they could do it

whenever they want. And it's like, oh, well,

I don't think that the X -Men has a leg up on

the Avengers, something X -Men did before the

Avengers did it. Yeah. Because once you introduce

the thing, a time travel, it's like, well, why

don't they always just go back in time to fix

everything? True. Pull Superman and reverse the

earth or whatever. Oh, right in the first movie

they did that. All right. All right. So any other

thoughts before we bring this discussion to an

end? Nope. All right. So I guess we'll get into

what's coming out. DVD and Blu -ray and theatrical

worldwide and all that good stuff. I lost that

list. Sorry, do you have that up Kevin? Yeah

as far as blu -ray leases there is not a whole

lot You get a collector's edition combo pack

of how to train your dragon you get the criterion

collection of the life aquatic with Steve Zizzou

And I don't really know there's a dr. Who combo

pack for dr. Who fans. It's like a It's a documentary.

I think yeah sleep away camp and sleep away camp

collector's edition combo pack stay away There's

not a lot to buy on dvd this next week. So There's

a there's a pretty good movie called cheap thrills

coming out which came out earlier this year on

demand, which is It's a pretty good dark comedy

basically about this Rich guy who gets two guys

in a bar and basically pays them lots of money

to do crazy things that kind of escalates further

and further It's a really good dark comedy that

I would recommend you may be getting at red box

if if it's there And as far as theatrical releases,

not a ton of stuff that's going to try to be

competing too much, but we do have a couple of

big releases compared to sometimes the week after

a big film like this comes out. And it's all

Thursday releases this time for the notable ones.

And that's A Million Ways to Die in the West,

Maleficent, Under the Electric Sky. And then

there was a couple that we had trailers of as

far as Friday releases, I think. The grand seduction

maybe and and one other one but uh out of a million

days to die in the west under the electric sky

maleficent and Any that you're willing to put

your money in to go see in the theater? Well,

I I probably will see maleficent I'm gonna see

million ways to die just because if we pass to

it, so I won't be paying money for it But is

it I thought edge of tomorrow was coming out

this weekend, too. I could be wrong, too but

I I do plan on seeing that I know you guys aren't

big Tom Cruise fans, but I do like Tom Cruise.

I liked Oblivion enough last year. I do think

he has a lot of bad movies and he can be crazy,

but I do like a lot of his movies. I guess the

only thing that turns it's not that he's just

batshit insane, then that turns me off of him.

But I feel like all he's doing is science fiction

films lately. He did he did Jack Reacher, which

was kind of like a knockoff of the porn that

wasn't very good. Trying to think of what else

he's done. He hasn't done much drama recently.

I mean, I think the last thing he did drama -wise

was Valkyrie, like we mentioned. But yeah. But

Edge of Tomorrow is also getting a lot of good

praise from what I've seen. I haven't really

read full reviews, but he's been doing pretty

good. ComingSoon .net is listing Edge of Tomorrow

as coming out the following week. I don't know

if they pushed it back a week or what, but it's

listed as a June 6th release in 3D, 2D, and IMAX

3D. So they might have tried to bump it to give

it a week of... of X -Men farther away from it.

I will also be seeing Maleficent for sure, that's

guaranteed. A Million Ways to Die in the West,

I don't know if there's been a film this year

yet that I've been more on the fence about. I

don't know if that's gonna be an utter piece

of crap or if it's gonna be hilarious or somewhere

in between. If I have a time, I might be able

to see it, but Maleficent would get my first

choice. Matt, I know you have a Maleficent date.

Yeah, well my my girlfriend's got a group going

to it in like two weeks I don't know if I want

to wait that long, but two weeks is long enough

that if it's good I can see it twice in two weeks

What about your interest? You want to see it

this weekend? Yeah, dude, if you want to see

it like I'm I'm down I don't want to see it,

but I'll go to a movie with you. You don't you're

not interested in Maleficent No Really? No, I

don't like Angelina Jolie. I don't. I mean, I

don't dislike her. I'm not too super impressed

by her. But I would say that of all the trailers

I've seen, that one's probably my top five most

interesting of the year. I've been interested

about that. I was definitely in my list of films

most looking forward to this year and I will

be seeing it What about your guys's opinions?

I can't remember I know you we talked about the

trailers a little bit, but now that it's actually

coming out Are either of you interested in actually

going to see a million ways to die in the West?

We need something to talk about I'll go see it

Excellent, but I'd rather see chef which had

one like So it might be I don't know how long

it'll last but we have a chance to go see that

Grand Budapest only lasted like two weeks. So

we might want to go and see chef to be just while

we got it. Yeah, that's true What is Grand Budapest

coming out on DVD? I want to do that June 28th,

I think which I've actually missed that so I'm

looking to finally catching up Oh my gosh, you

have to see it. It's my favorite movie so far

this year. I think I can agree with that And

I figured out the thing with edge of tomorrow

is coming out overseas This weekend and then

or next weekend and then you ask it's at a week

later. So one of those dealios That's common

nowadays. Yeah But it's apparently tracking really

horribly. So it's probably gonna be another bomb

for Tom Cruise. There you go All right, did you

want to get into the credit conversation for

your Yeah, we actually had quite a bit of comments

right away for Godzilla and a lot of good comments

definitely enjoyed what people had to say about

our last last podcast and you can obviously go

and check all the things out there, but we pose

a question about Films having less of a human

angle less of a human focus or just less humans

in general And there's a lot of comments to get

into I don't have time to and I don't think we

should necessarily read all of them But I thought

people made some some interesting points someone

brought up the Muppets Saying that maybe Muppets

most wanted focused on the Muppets more than

the first one which focused a little bit on Jason

Siegel and Amy Adams So that was an interesting

example that I didn't expect to see in that conversation

Obviously Transformers gets brought up because

that's an easy one for humans to be less involved

with. That's like the quintessential example

of this question, I think. Right. It's like,

yeah, we don't need all the human characters.

Any of them. So yeah, there was some good conversation.

I would just tell everybody to go to the website

and check out and maybe add your two cents on

Armageddon was one that someone brought up, which

I'm not 100 % sure. How you would have... Just

more asteroid. Just like have it be an hour and

a half of looming asteroid shots just cut back

and forth like... I guess maybe like more, you

could have less of some of the human stories,

side stories that were going on, but I don't

think you can have less actual humans in that

one, so I guess that's a different take on it

as far as maybe just less of the personal stories.

But yeah, good conversations, go on, check it

out. as well as checking out this week's episode

post in which we will have a new question. Anybody

have a question off the top of their head about

anything we talked about today that they want

to pose to the group? Nate, you had your first

question last week. Do you got another one? No.

No, I don't. I got one. I actually got two because

I got a cheeky one, which was, are we going to

do star rating on this one? And then the question

for the actual podcast or for the actual credit

conversation is. we had a bunch of really cool

characters what really cool characters do you

want to see in the next one for x -men for the

x -men i mean because that's what we talked about

for the most of uh most part of the x -men right

was all the characters so which characters that

appeared in this one do you want to see more

of or which characters that we haven't seen would

you like to see appear for the first time maybe

or if you have anything you don't want to see

that you're afraid they might show that one that's

also part of anything about x -men apocalypse

chime in and give us your thoughts. And as for

the star ratings, Dan, let's start with you.

What would you give this one? Oh, wow. That's

always tough. Apparently, yeah. Yeah, sure. I'll

cheat and I'll go last. All right. He gets to

go last then. So, Nate, you're on the spot. OK,

I'll give it a four. Four out of five. Done.

All right. No explanation. Four out of five for

Nate and Matt. Since we always like to give in

previous one, I would give first class three

and a half and then this one four. I think it

was a step in the right direction. I really enjoyed

it. Shoot. That means I'm up. I saw it so recently

that it's still fresh and I want to digest some

things about it. I'm going to have a hard time

just ranking all of the superhero films by the

time this year's over. And a lot of people are

not going to agree with my rankings of them.

But my first instinct is going to be to agree

with you guys and put it at a four. I don't know

if time will will change that, but I'm going

to start with an initial ranking of four at this

point. Yeah, the trend. Well, I would say after

my first like my first viewing, I was at a solid

forum because I was working on my written review.

I'm like, all right, I think this is a four.

But I do think watching it a second time was

a big help because I think I was able to I think

the first time was almost there was so much anticipation

and so much going on like I couldn't really.

completely get into everything. But the second

time I did appreciate it, I did like it a little

more. More is at rank within the other superhero

movies. It's tough. I've gone back and forth.

Where do I like the Captain America or this more?

And I think over. I do. I think like the action

movies more just because I think there is the

performances in the film are far superior than

that of the other film. So I'll buck the trend

and give it like a four point five out of five.

Wow. So. It's probably the second highest movie

ever in so far. No, no. Well, review wise, maybe

the third or fourth highest just because I did.

I did enjoy it a great deal. And like I said,

I had so much anticipation with this. I thought

it was going to it was just going to be a disappointment

and it didn't. And I again, I just thought it

was effective and well directed. So, yeah, I'll

go four point five. I'm not scared. So three

fours and four and a half. So that means go see

it if you haven't seen it yet. And help it climb

the ranks of the yearly box office charts here.

And then like Matt said, give us your thoughts

on X -Men Apocalypse. What characters do you

want to see? Do you not want to see returning

characters, new characters? Just thoughts in

general on that. So Dan, I'll let you take the

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