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About this Episode

We discuss current box office performance, including the drop of The Amazing Spider-Man 2, and news regarding Agent Carter, potential Sinister Six members, and X-Men spin-offs. We also cover trailers for films like Snowpiercer, Tammy, and Dawn of the Planet of the Apes. Finally, we count down our personal top 10 favorite movie super-villains.

Today on MY Weekly we'll be discussing Star Wars

Rumors Galore, a possible answer to the final

member of the Sinister Six, future X -Men plans,

and our main attraction, our top 10 favorite

movie supervillains. All that and more coming

up on MY Weekly. for joining us today on NY Weekly.

As always, I'm your host, Optimus Solo, and with

me today is Nathan. Hello. Hello. And Frithy

Stent, hello. Greetings. And salutations. And

today we are going to start off, as always, with

our box office breakdown from this past weekend.

A little bit of a surprise here. and that would

be that the Amazing Spider -Man 2 only was on

top for one weekend and it was dethroned this

past weekend. I'm not sure how many people saw

that coming in but Amazing Spider -Man 2 drops

to the second spot this week bringing in 37 million

dollars which brings it up to about 148 million

total. Neighbors however was the number one spot

this past weekend with 51 million on a budget

of 18. So I guess people were ready for a comedy.

After that we had Neighbors number 1, Amazing

Spider -Man 2. Running off the top 5 was The

Other Woman in the third spot with just over

9 million. Heaven is for Real right exactly at

7 million was number 4. And Captain America The

Winter Soldier drops to number 5 with about 5

.5 million bringing its total just about to the

$245 million mark. Nate or Matt were either of

you surprised that The Amazing Spider -Man 2

did not hold at number 1? Very surprised Yeah,

I was surprised you and it wasn't really close.

I mean it was almost 15 million More than neighbors

did Wow As far as new films legends of Oz Dorothy's

return the animated film brought in just under

4 million mom's night out brought just over 4

million and then we had our first trickling into

the theaters and six theaters for chef and there's

a few other smaller films that just started coming

out, but Any surprises besides amazing spider

-man not being a number one spot as you kind

of look over the the list guys Well, I'm surprised

if these numbers are correct that chef made $200

,000 in six theaters Yeah, that's pretty impressive

Like if that makes it all the way out to us,

that'd be really cool. Yeah, really I do want

to see that one Grand Buddha best hotels still

in there and top 20 so it brought in another

million and a half um divergence still up there

so uh not too many surprises i don't think with

the rest of it um rio 2 yeah captain america

uh still the top five after six weeks and with

a major competitor yeah and that will probably

change here with the next two weeks um because

we're going to see a lot of films drop out uh

as godzilla and then x -men both come out in

back -to -back weeks along with some smaller

films so all these films are going to take a

hit. It kind of brings up with the strategic

planning of when movies are going to come out

and what's either coming out right before it

or what's coming out after it and maybe some

better plans could have been made for a few of

these films. Transcendence by the way was taken

out of over 1 ,200 theaters this past week and

it's now only in 500 theaters so that can definitely

be added to the flop list. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm

curious to see if the legends of Oz ever if they

get to show their budget. Yeah, I don't know

if they will. I mean, that film was so long in

the making that you think it would have a little

bit of a budget there. But I don't know how well

that's going to do. It doesn't seem like the

finished product came out as good as maybe a

lot of people had hoped because it didn't even

beat Rio to which is in its fifth week. And that's

not a good sign for an animated film if you're

not immediately the top animated film when you

come out. And as far as the film that has been

in the theater's longest, that would still be

frozen 25 weeks. It's got to be almost done.

So the other biggest, the other longest ones,

you have Grand Budapest Hotel has been 10 weeks.

Mr. Peabody and Sherman 10 weeks, nonstop with

11 weeks. And it's getting, I mean, it's in the

90 million mark. That's kind of surprising to

me. And I don't even know what the lunchbox is.

I vaguely remember hearing about it at one point,

but I've forgotten what it is, but that's been

in theaters for 11 weeks. So we'll see. I think

a bunch of those are going to drop out here in

the next couple of weeks. And if you're looking

at the yearly numbers so far, we have some new

moving and shaking going on there. The Lego movie

is at number one still with 253 million. Right

behind it is Captain America with 244. Then number

three would be already The Amazing Spider -Man

2 at 147. Divergent 145 and Ride Along clinging

to that fifth spot with 134 million. So the superhero

films are taking over and we might see a lot

more shaking in the next month and some of those

films dropping out completely. But for now, Lego

Movie still reigns supreme. Getting into the

headlines today, a little bit of news. to get

through before we get to our main attraction.

First off, for those people that are following

the Marvel Universe, I know this is more of a

TV news story, but it all kind of is all encompassing,

I would say, when you're looking at the Marvel

Universe. And the news this week was about another

TV series for ABC, an Agent Carter show. And

the article basically explains it that since

Agents of S .H .I .E .L .D. has been picked up

for another season when it's in its hiatus next

year, that they will kind of do this Agent Carter

series as like an in -between bridge type of

show. And the premise is that the show will pick

up a year after Captain America the First Avenger

and will follow Carter's career as a secret agent

while Captain is frozen. Any interest in that

show, Nate? Oh, OK. I was like, wait, when did

he get frozen again? I don't know. I wasn't.

Too impressed with the with the agents of shield

show so I I stopped watching it after like two

episodes But main I don't know. I probably should

have stuck with it, but mainly I just don't watch

TV. It's really hard for me to do that Matt what

do you think of agents of shield and this second

idea here? I Stuck with agents of shield throughout

most of it. I think I haven't seen like the last

three or four episodes. It's just you know so

repetitious and it felt like at the end of the

episode nothing can change from the beginning

of the episode so i i stopped watching it after

like six or eight episodes um although i've heard

it since the cat movie it's become a very different

show which i you know you'd have to after the

cat movie so i mean you know maybe i'll i'll

go on hulu and and watch it and catch up um as

far as this new show uh Well when I when I read

agent Carter is gonna get a TV show I figured

they meant her daughter or granddaughter who

is in comic book agent 13 who was Steve Rogers

neighbor in the second movie I figured they were

finally going to start using her because they

had they established that character a little

bit So when I you know started reading the article

and it's like no no no this is gonna be set in

the 40s I was like why You know, we got enough

of the foundation of SHIELD in Cap 2. I didn't

finish Cap 2 and go, you know what, I want to

know what happened 60 years ago. I didn't really

have that feeling either. We'll see what they

do with it. I'm sure I'll watch at least the

first two episodes to give it a chance, but I'm

not stoked or anything. Again, it's harder for

me to get excited about the TV series. Like Nate,

it's just harder to keep up with the TV series

and especially if it's like what you said where

you don't feel like there's a lot of groundbreaking

things happening episode to episode. It just

kind of comes with an episodic snooze fest from

what it seems like. As far as some new movies

that might be planned or being planned, I know

we had rumors last year of a TV series from this

franchise, but now it looks like we might be

getting a film from the Flintstones franchise.

And this will be music to TFG1 Mike's ears, to

be executive produced by Will Ferrell, who he

hates, and Adam McKay. So Seth MacFarlane was

the one that was supposedly doing the TV series

that has been basically... Delayed indefinitely,

but the idea of Will Ferrell Heading a heading

up a Flintstones movie. Obviously the rumors

will be that he would probably be the voice of

Fred Flintstone or the actor that plays Fred

Flintstone. I'm not sure if it's gonna be Live

-action or or what exactly the plans are for

this, but I don't know. I'm not I'm not a huge

Lover of the Flintstones franchise. I respect

what it did and and which place in history as

far as animated series go, but I don't know I

wasn't a big fan of the First live -action film.

I know Nate you liked it though, right? Yeah,

I mean I watched it a billion times when I was

younger Man I almost have that movie memorized

though. Like my fiance was watching it recently

for no other reason other than It was there,

but Yeah, it's it's it's good Maybe maybe maybe

that's that's super nostalgic talking. I don't

know I mean Hannah Barbera has like this article

says hasn't had a great run lately of Turning

their products. Oh, yeah, yeah, so the yogi bear

Smurfs who casts like Was it Justin Timberlake

is boo -boo like why? Why? That's a bad idea.

I mean, I like Justin Timberlake, but that's

a bad idea. That's a bad idea I don't know. I

mean, I guess maybe if someone there's a right

person to do the Flintstones. Maybe Will Ferrell

is that person? The article yeah, I mean to be

animated by the way, okay, I think I think Will

Ferrell is funny in most of the things that he's

done I don't know, maybe not. I have differing

opinions on him. Sometimes he's really good,

and other times it's not really doing it for

me. I don't know, with something like this, I've

never seen him do a kid's thing before. Well,

Flintstones is not entirely... Kids was not 100

% the demographic originally of that show. Well,

yeah, but I mean, it's it's going to be marketed

towards kids. It's there's no way it's going

to be above a PG rating. I think it would be

marketed much the way like Simpsons and Family

Guy is marketed. But I mean, I'm more on board

if it's an animated film, like like Matt was

saying, the article is saying I'm more on board

with that than them to try to do another live

action. So whatever. I don't think it works live

action, you know. No, it doesn't at all. I think

it did. I like John Goodman. Like John Goodman

too, but I cannot agree with that statement Whatever

as far as another franchise may be getting a

little bit of new energy in there And I know

a lot of people will be a lot more excited than

I am about this Apparently there is a new Power

Rangers movie in the works go go Power Rangers.

Oh, that's what it's called Okay, I didn't get

that. Okay, cool Lionsgate has teamed up with

Haim Saban and looks like, I don't even know

if that's how you say that, looks like they're

going to be doing another live action film. And

they, according to most people I've ever heard

talk about the last Power Rangers film, that

it's not going to be hard to beat that. But I

didn't see it because I hate the Power Rangers

franchise with a burning passion. Oh, wow. Oh

yeah, Matt, you didn't know that about Kevin.

I didn't. His look is somewhat tarnished to me

now. My bad. But hey, Lionsgate, they've done

some decent stuff with some of their films lately,

and they have a lot of experience with special

effects and big budget films, so maybe they're

the right people to do it. but I will not be

watching this. But let's let you guys talk about

it because you guys are probably way more into

Power Rangers or were when you were children.

So Nate, what do you think about a new movie?

I mean, the Power Rangers have I never watched

it past like the first series or series or whatever.

Once they started getting into different like

they changed the Power Rangers to different characters,

like different actors entirely. I was like done.

But I mean I watched the first Power Rangers

movie when I was a kid and I had a lot of McDonald's

toys from that time and I don't know it's it's

nostalgic and fun, but Making a brand new one.

I don't I don't see why There's no are the Power

Rangers even still popular. I don't even know

a resurgence as of late Okay, are they doing

new episodes still yeah? That's nuts and unlike

Disney XD or one of you know one of the channels

you need to have 300 channels to get but yeah,

it's still going right it will never die But

I mean like I don't know like it see on the the

parts of the internet that I am on Sentai stuff

is huge so like Like, you know, Kevin saying

he doesn't even like the Power Rangers and they've

been like, are they even a thing? And me, I'm

like, I know I could probably dredge up 10 guys

that spent over $300 on Sentai merch in the last,

you know, four months. Like without a question.

Are they doing like all new origin stories and

everything or what? The the articles kind of

sparse that information, but I mean if it were

me and I know it's never going to be me I would

just do I would just start over do do the mighty

morph and Power Rangers and Do just do it entirely

high budget and do it right and and just you

know Forget Dino Thunder and forget Power Rangers

in time and everything else and just get and

then get you know Some of the actors to play

cameos, like I know the White Ranger went to

be an MMA fighter for a little bit and then came

back and is actually on the current show with

the Black Ranger, but he's the same character

like. It's still Tommy. He came back and he joined

rejoined as you know, the 40 year old Ranger,

um And I know the pink Ranger Kimberly I can't

remember her actress name, but she became an

actress that did like three or four movies at

least No, I'm with you as far as if they're gonna

do it that they should do like a big budget and

you know Put everything into it and start again

at the beginning and make it But is that franchise

allowed to do stuff that looks legit and realistic?

I don't know about that. It's got all of its

weird American, Japanese things. What is it between

Bandai and Saban? It's a complicated franchise

to say the least. The American toy markets for

it were really weird for a very long time, and

they've gotten even weirder over the current

years. You know, Bandai is a big toy maker in

Japan and they're a toy maker in America that's

smaller. But then like, you know, does, you know,

one of the toy companies here make the toys for

one of the TV shows, for the older TV shows or

who owns the rights? Very weird, very complicated

franchise. Yeah, but I'm sure there's a lot of

people that will be excited about this news because

there are Power Rangers fans everywhere. So if

this makes them happy, I'm all for it. I just

won't watch it myself. Uh, Star Wars stuff. There's

a lot of Star Wars stuff this week, starting

with a possible title for episode seven, which

I put no weight behind this whatsoever, but I

wanted to bring this article up. I want to bring

this article up for a different reason. Um, the

title being thrown around is the ancient fear,

uh, Star Wars, episode seven, the ancient fear.

But regardless of if that is the title is not

the title gets changed whatever the article makes

reference to Max Von Zito's character as being

the villain in Episode 7 and that I am a hundred

percent for It looks like it could do it. Although

I'm a little worried. It'll be too much like

a new dooku Yeah, I don't want him to like resemble

any of the other characters But he's obviously

an older gentleman and he could have some type

of connection to the other films in some way

Maybe I don't know what exactly that would be

Or somebody that was in hiding or whatever. I

don't know. I like him as an actor So him being

the villain I'm all for if that's true But ancient

fear I could care less if that's a title or if

it isn't And then the other thing was about the

spin -offs Disney is planning to release at least

three Star Wars spinoffs over the next 10 years.

We kind of already knew this, but there was another

report coming out from Eiger, the CEO there,

that the films would be released in addition

to episode 7, 8, and 9, and that basically it

would be like an every other year type thing

or in the off years between the actual episode

numbered films. It says Lawrence Kasman and Simon

Kinberg have been working on stories and spinoffs

for at least a year. I know there's been a lot

of rumors that we would possibly get a Boba Fett

spinoff movie or like something following the

younger career of Han Solo. I'd be all about

that. I like, I don't know, maybe I'm in the

minority, but I like the idea of Star Wars spinoffs

and movies that don't necessarily have to do

with the main storyline. Matt, what do you think?

Um, I've read a lot of books and there's a lot

of content there that I would love to see on

the big screen but until well one until we see

any Disney Star Wars movie and then to See where

they're gonna go with it since they've already

killed off the the expanded universe. Um, you

know, I'm Hesitant to say I want it. But I mean

I want to see it see what happens see what they

do with it Nate does the idea of a Star Wars

film every year kind of scare you Oh, yeah, definitely

like you could you could milk that franchise

dry. It would be like you know doing Call of

Duty every year Yeah Generally annual franchises

are not a good idea like the the customers will

start getting like They won't care anymore because

it's so oversaturated. So hopefully they won't

do that It's bad for multiple reasons I think

number one Like you just said it oversaturates

a big time and people will stop getting excited

about it Like I think one of the reasons a lot

of people are excited about this is it's obviously

been Quite a number of years since we've had

a Star Wars film a lot of people myself included

Wanted this before they wanted the prequels They

wanted the what happens in the future before

they wanted the what happened in the past. So

I can see the excitement, but if you do it every

year, number one, it's going to get old for a

lot of people. And number two, probably bigger

flaw there is you don't give anybody time to

develop stories. Like, to me, that's not enough

time to write good scripts. I mean, obviously

a lot has been written in the past on Star Wars

and, you know, et cetera, but I just think if

you're trying to pump stuff out every year, you

risk the quality going way down. Yeah, definitely.

You also can't lock in the same actors for everything.

I mean, they've got careers that they've got

to go around and do other things. Right. So you'd

have to be changing a lot of characters because

there's not going to be many people that are

like, yeah, I'll do a film a year for 10 years

and do nothing else with my career. Although

it would probably make them a good amount of

money. Star Wars is my new retirement plan. I

just want to be a recurring character in Star

Wars franchise. And talking about how much of

an impact Star Wars had and we talked about this.

I think Dan and I talked about this way back

when, the domino effect of when certain movies

are having a release date. And because Star Wars

is scheduled for December 2015 and that was the

exact same date that the Warcraft film was slated

to come out, Warcraft obviously switched dates

and they moved to a 2016 release date instead

of trying to combat Star Wars. The interesting

thing is that the film is set to finish in like

the next couple of weeks. Warcraft is gonna be

in post -production for over two years Man wait,

so wait, it's all shot. You mean? Yeah, the filming

is almost done. Like it'll be done. Oh my god

the end of May So they're gonna spend two years,

I guess perfecting every CGI sequence Yeah, just

like wait wait until Star Wars is done But I

mean, I guess that's not a terrible thing if

they're gonna really perfect it I think Warcraft

has a potential to look pretty cool on the big

screen, so I'm glad they're not trying to go

against something that would just smash it. Yeah.

I was thinking about this. What Star Wars should

do is, because there's a new rumor every week,

they should just, probably about once a month,

they should say, all right, we're going to come

out in December. No, it's moved out to November.

No, we're doing it in January. No, we're going

back to December. And then keep their own date,

and then just like... Just like move all the

other movies away from that whole entire time

So there's this huge drought of movies and then

all of a sudden Star Wars happens and Everyone

goes to see Star Wars because they've saved up

all their money because there's nothing coming

out for the next month Yeah, I don't know if

it works like that, but I don't think they need

to do that. There's Star Wars It's true. I can

be like, we're coming out in 2015 and people

are like, okay, we're not coming out in 2015.

Yeah. I just like the idea of having this huge

drought of nothing and Star Wars right in the

middle of it. Well, I don't like that idea. I

like the idea that someone would actually come

up with it or something. You know what I mean?

Yes. That'd be terrible. I could be a CEO of

a terrible corporation. Terrible corporation

Interesting that last week we were speculating

on possible Sinister six members and then this

week we get an article from Mark Webb or from

a Discussion with Mark Webb saying that he would

like to introduce Craven the hunter to the amazing

spider -man series now whether that would be

as a member of the Sinister six or possibly somebody

in the third amazing spider -man film I don't

know what exactly that would entail but Basically,

when asked which unseen character he would like

to bring to the big screen given the chance,

his answer was Craven. This is a quote, I like

the idea of Craven, the Vulture, Ahk, I always

thought the idea of Mysterio was interesting,

maybe Scorpion, but really Craven I think is

kind of interesting. I like the hard firmness

of Craven is kind of interesting. So I don't

know. So it seems like we might get him in some

way, shape, or form in something to do with Spider

-Man, whether it be that six member that we were

speculating of the Sinister Six or not. What

are your thoughts on him kind of leaning towards

Kraven? Yeah, I like Kraven, but again, Mysterio

all the way. More Mysterio. Yeah. Well, I mean,

it's interesting because he mentions Vulture

Nock, which... They were both shown already,

basically, in that clip from Spider -Man 2. So,

you know, the only other ones he mentions is

Mysterio and Scorpion besides Kraven. So you'd

think it would be one of those three at least.

I'm pulling for Mysterio. Matt, what do you think?

I think at this point, Mysterio is a dark horse

that I want to win. But I like I like Kraven.

I mean. You know, if you were to go to my room,

you'd see more Kraven toys than Mysterio toys.

Which doesn't really say much, but I think he's

an interesting character. He could be cool. I

would like to see him on the big screen. What

about this? If the plans are to do another Amazing

Spider -Man film first... Which I can't keep

track of with all the rumors with this franchise

But if they were going to do just like a standalone

not a standalone But but a individual spider

-man film and then they also had a sinister six

film in the works would one of these characters

work better as the villain and just the Like

an amazing spider -man 3 film and then maybe

a different character work better as part of

the sinister six Does one of these deserve more

like just? Independent time on his own in his

own film compared to being mixed in with five

other bad guys in a different movie Really think

that Mysterio would be way better of a singular

villain than the hunter Craven Like just I mean

you could do so much with like his backstory

and stuff and then Craven Craven is just isn't

he just like a hunter that wants to Hunt the

the hunt Lea's hunters and yeah, that's right

But it's like spider -man is a good hunter thing.

I want to hunt that also known as prey prey so

right words um Yeah, I mean Mysterio would be

cool agree or disagree Matt um I think Mysterio

needs to be solo first because His powers are

really weird whereas Craven is there Craven.

Yeah, it's very straightforward but I think I

would rather see a Mysterio movie because I want

to see Mysterio, but I think he works better.

You know, and then to go odd, we haven't talked

about Scorpion at all. Scorpion is very straightforward,

too. So, I mean, I think Scorpion or Kraven wouldn't

need a whole movie, whereas I think Mysterio

would be best served with one. I feel like the

Scorpion would just be a retread of the Blizzard.

The Blizzard? Yeah, the Blizzard. Blizzard man

from Mega Man. Oh, no ice blade the lizard Uh,

yeah, or the Rhino. I mean, he's like halfway

between the two of them Yeah, dude in a suit

with the tail That's animal based. Yeah, that's

halfway between those two In other comic book

news we had an x -men article and you guys can

visit the website and Click on the link to get

the whole, like there's a video basically from

the X -Men producers. A couple things out of

the article. Number one, they were saying that

another film with the original cast is possible,

since obviously after Days of Future Past, the

rumors were that Apocalypse, when it happens,

won't have any of the original cast from the

first three films. But the article is saying

that they might have another film at some point.

And then the other interesting thing was that

their plans definitely included, and this is

quote, some solo efforts. I hope to see us do

Gambit. Deadpool will eventually punch his way

to the screen, I think. Thoughts on the the should

we be done with the original members of X -Men?

after Days of Future Past and just let that the

younger cast take over and Thoughts on Gambit

and Deadpool being a solo film in the future

Nate Um, I don't know like again like if they

use the old actors make a good movie it would

be great Like, I don't want to have an issue

with that. I don't think any of the actors except

maybe, you know, Professor X and Magneto blanking

on names, but whatever. Patrick Stewart and Ian

McKellen? There you go. I felt bad about Patrick

Stewart, not so much about Ian McKellen that

I couldn't remember their names. I love Patrick

Stewart. But no. Yeah, I mean they're getting

old and it's kind of weird to see him being so

old and whatnot so But I mean if they can still

make a good movie with them then by all means

let's see more of them And which film would you

be more excited about Gambit or Deadpool? I I

love Gambit So if they do a really good gambit

movie that would be awesome Deadpool would be

a weird movie cuz like Deadpool that pulls whole

characters like let's break the fourth wall and

make silly jokes and It it makes it I think it

read probably reads better in a comic than it

does in a movie, and I don't think they would

be They would go so far to take him completely

out of the universe and be like hey look at this

weird weird movie we're going to make if they

actually do it that way. Because. Yeah, like

it would just be a weird movie if they actually

did it the way that a Deadpool movie should be

made. And I know that they probably would rather

keep them all in the same universe so that they

can have, you know, cameos and spinoffs and stuff.

Matt, do you have any scripts in your desk for

for Deadpool? Deadpool. Well, I could give you

a scene where like he. He turns to the camera

and says something, you know, like some Deadpool

line, like, well, I guess Deadpool's going to

be a hero for this one. And then it cuts to like

a camera behind a villain or something, or, you

know, just turns a little bit so that he's not

looking at the camera anymore. And he's like,

who are you talking to? Like, and it's just like,

because like he's looking right at us when the

camera's there, but the camera moves, he's not

looking at us anymore. And you see, you're laughing.

Boom. Scene written. But as far as all your questions

go, I want to say yes to all three of them. You

just have to remember what they are. Fair enough.

Although, you know, when Nate was saying Ian

McKellen and Patrick Stewart were getting older,

like when he first started that bid, I thought

he was going to be like, well, Patrick Stewart

and Ian McKellen are the only actors I want to

see again anyway, so the other ones can go out.

Cuz that was my feeling that's actually yeah

That's probably true as long as I get to watch

them hang out and random places around New York.

That's fine. Oh Yeah, cuz I mean, you know Halle

Berry's not um bad she's she also is not amazing

um She was great in Catwoman. Oh really? Yikes.

I just like Flintstones, guys. All of Nate's

cred is going right out the window. No, no, no,

no, no, no. Did you read the script she had to

work with? She was great with what she was given.

Yeah. Oh, man. I've tried to watch that movie

so many times, which is funny because I'm not

a type of guy to stop a movie, but the copies

that we tried all did not work. And it was almost

like God was like, Hey, I'm just not, I'm going

to take this bullet for you. Cause we tried,

we tried four, three or four copies on the five

or six DVD players. Yeah, it was weird. And we

got almost an hour into it at the most. Somebody

was definitely a new favorite. Yeah. I love when,

I love when they say her name in the movie and

you're like, you, you said that is not Selena

nor Kyle. Was that what my line was? No, that's

what you said. That was over ten years ago now,

wasn't it? That's a good memory, Nate. Probably.

Nah, he's got a terrible memory, but that was

just a good line. In the world of remakes, reboots,

and sequels, we have a few to talk about today.

Michael Fassbender saying he is on board 100

% to do a follow -up to Prometheus. The studio

has not confirmed that that's actually gonna

happen or if Ridley Scott's gonna be involved,

but there's been a lot of rumors about it and

Fassbender seems to be on board with that. I

actually somewhat enjoyed Prometheus. I know

a lot of people hated it, but I'm definitely

on board with seeing him play Ridley again. Or

not really, but playing his character's name

with Ridley Scott at the helm, if that happens.

Did you guys see Prometheus either one of you?

No, I haven't seen a single aliens movie or alien

movie or Prometheus. And I also think that the

Flintstones is really, really good movie. We

just eliminated a few films from our coffee table.

And then you're going to say that you've never

seen any of the aliens films. Well, yeah. We

had to watch Druids. That was important. Matt,

have you seen any of the alien films? I've definitely

seen the first one as a child. You know, I only

have vague memories of it. I'm not a horror film,

and I know that it's sci -fi action horror, but

I'd definitely sit down and watch it. I don't

know if you can get Amy to do it, but I would.

I am not a horror fan at all, but for some reason

I really somewhat enjoy these films, and I actually

like Prometheus, and obviously that's supposed

to be somewhat of a prequel to what happens later.

But we should definitely watch all of those.

Oh, the second Aliens is really the best one.

But we should definitely watch them. And I'd

be interested to see your guys take on Prometheus.

It had some problems. But I'm all for that franchise

to continue, I guess. It's not like my favorite

franchise or anything, but I find it interesting.

Talking about other reboots, apparently Lethal

Weapon. Warner Brothers is reportedly developing

a franchise continuation. And instead of Mel

Gibson, we would be seeing possibly Chris Hemsworth.

taking the lead here. Really? You don't like

Chris Hemsworth that much? I mean, okay, he does

look like he could be Mel Gibson's son. And that

is according to the article, what would be happening

is he would be the son of possibly Martin Riggs.

Apparently the original producer is on board

scarily, scarily. Someone attached the Fast and

Furious franchise is apparently attached to direct.

Sure, why not? That scares the pants off of me.

And obviously there would be rumors abound about

Mel Gibson and Danny Glover possibly being in

there or not, but I don't know. We all kind of

saw what happened with the Die Hard franchise.

I know, Matt, you like the last one, right? Yeah,

I was gonna say that diehard franchise had one

bad movie that actually a lot of people really

enjoyed I and it wasn't a terrible movie. It

just wasn't very diehard II right and then they

immediately You turned out of there. Yeah, I

think what the problem with lethal weapon is

what made lethal weapon was Mel Gibson And Don't

know if they can capture the same feel and same

atmosphere or whatever with somebody else And

it was the buddy cop thing, you know Mel Gibson

and Danny Glover and I just don't know if that's

necessary I mean, I love that franchise to death

and I always wanted more movies But now it's

been so long that I if you can't do it with Mel

Gibson. I don't know if you should be doing it

Nate you only saw the first lethal weapon film,

right? Yeah So far yeah, so is that in our stack

do we have all the others? Yeah? I Know there's

the box thing with all three of them in it in

the stack. I don't know fourth one was in there

Yeah, we got all we got I have all of them, so

okay. I don't know I just Don't think it's necessary.

Maybe they're gonna do like they open up with

like, Rigs, I'm taking your badge! Like they

always do in buddy cat movies and he's like,

sure, I'm 60, I'm out! I'm retiring! And then

there's like a moment where the chief is like,

oh man, I actually wanted him to do that off

the books. And another article about a remake

or reboot apparently that is necessary to happen

involves the Toxic Avenger and also involves

Arnold Schwarzenegger. Apparently during a recent

junket for his movie Sabotage he was asked about

Toxic Avenger and he said that he couldn't talk

about the Toxic Avenger because it hasn't been

approved but apparently for some reason Toxic

Avenger is a thing that might be happening and

for some reason it's possibly going to include

Arnold Schwarzenegger, which really just proves

that anything and everything will be remade eventually.

Nate? What do you think? I think if Arnold Schwarzenegger

is the Toxic Avenger, it would be amazing because

they could just pick up like, you know, I don't

know when the last one came out, but. They could

just pick up right in current times and just

be like he's just super old now, and he still

can't speak very well I remember seeing the Toxic

Avenger, and that's got to be one of the worst

movies ever It's it's pretty bad, but it has

charm so Arnold Schwarzenegger seems like that

would be a perfect fit And another sequel possibly

be made. We won't talk about it too much because

I never saw the first one, but maybe some people

will be excited about it. A Spring Breakers sequel

has announced. A second coming of Spring Breakers.

Now I know a lot of people wrote this film off

immediately, but from everybody that saw it that

I actually talked to or read about, the first

one was actually pretty good apparently, or better

than it seemed like it would have been. So apparently

it being as good quote -unquote as it was they

are now going to be doing a sequel of spring

breakers um i've just put it out there so people

are aware of it but i can't really discuss it

because i know nothing about that franchise yeah

i've heard the same as you like it's good it's

a good movie everyone you should see it but i

just haven't yet And then also, and I guess going

back to some Marvel stuff here, the rumor here

is that Marvel is planning a standalone Hulk

movie after Avengers 2. At least that's what

Lou Frigno seems to think, and he has been the

source of all kinds of rumors. I mean, we've

had two Captain Americas. We've had two Thor's.

We've had three Iron Man's. There's been talk

about, you know, some of those having more films.

Obviously Avengers is going to have a second

film. Nobody's really said word about Hulk. Maybe

this is just Lou Frignal wanting to be involved

with more Marvel stuff. I don't know how well

the first Hulk film did in this universe in the

box office. I assume it did all right. But do

you think there's another need for or a need

for a second Hulk movie? If they make a more

interesting bad guy, then yeah, I don't know.

I never thought the any of the. Thor or I'm sorry

the the Hulk's bad guys were any good at all

like in any of the movies that or in any of the

comics really that that he's been in. I guess

if they did end up making another Hulk movie

I would want to see Planet Hulk where he gets

thrown into space and then he finds an alien

planet and becomes their ruler. That would be

awesome. But I doubt they would do that. I've

never been a huge Hulk fan, so I view him as

somebody that needs the rest of them to be involved.

I don't have much interest to just see Hulk as

the main hero. So to me, I could take it or leave

it as far as a second Hulk film. But hey, they've

hit home runs on just about everything they've

done so far. So maybe this is their one. movie

that they can just chalk up to be a to be bad

and then get it out of their system and move

on. Or maybe they'll do it well and everybody

will love it again. Beverly Hills Cop 4 gets

a 2016 release date so Axel Foley will be coming

back to the screens in 2016. I know we talked

about rumors about that for a while but it seems

like it has a strict date now and that would

be March 25th, 2016. So for Beverly Hills Cop

fans circle March 25th 2016 as a date that you

might want to pay attention to But we already

talked about the possibility of that so we don't

need to get into it too much As far as casting

news, I know there was a big article this week

about Transformers So most people will be aware

of this but John Goodman and Ken Watanabe have

joined Transformers Age of Extinction Apparently

John Goodman will be voicing in the Autobot Hound

where Watanabe will be playing the Transformer

drift so Also mentions that Peter Collin and

Frank Welker will be involved So that's good.

I've John Goodman's never voiced anything. I

don't believe in transformers franchise. So that

would be interesting and I like what Nabi so

Cool, I guess. What do you think? You're good

John Goodman fan, aren't you? Yeah, definitely,

I mean I when I was younger I always saw him

as like a I guess a bad actor or something. He

was on Roseanne or whatever. He was a comedian.

But man, the movies he's been making like throughout

his career have been phenomenal. Like he's a

great actor. Yeah. So I'm all about them getting

great actors or great voices involved and stuff

like that. But still a scary project. So we'll

have to see how that all goes down for people

that are interested in the point break remake.

Apparently, Gerard Butler has been has pulled

himself from that. franchise or that movie possibility.

But Ray Winstone has joined point break remake

and he will be taken on the role that was formerly

held by Gary Busey. It's been a long time since

I've seen point break. So I really that doesn't

mean a lot to me. What was point break about?

It was like an FBI. I spent so long. Okay. Some

type of FBI like action flick that I really didn't

resonate with me too much the first time I saw

it. So I don't remember much about it. But I

know some people like it. But it's just another

weird one that they've decided to pick up and

do a remake. I think rare windstone is good.

So yeah, I guess that's fine. But it's got to

be kind of hard to step into a role that was

done by Gary Busey. So point break fans, I guess

you can click the link and read about that and

the last casting news another actor from the

wire joins the fantastic four Reggie and I don't

know if it's Katie or Kathy will play dr. Storm

he's best known for his role as Norman Wilson

on the wire and Apparently, he's the latest one

that will be joining in the cast as dr. Storm

father of invisible woman and human torch. All

right so You got that going. We just keep getting

more and more about the Fantastic Four and we'll

see if they can actually make a good movie with

those characters. Alright, getting into trailer

talk. Not a ton of trailers this week, but we

did have six different ones as well as some new

trailers for some some films that have already

had a few previous trailers. So we had new trailers

for Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, A Million

Ways to Die in the West, 22 Jump Street, and

Maleficent. But brand new trailers for films

entitled Tammy, Rage, Snowpiercer, Good People,

and So It Goes, and Alexander and the Terrible,

Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day. Any of those

catch your fancy, Matt? No. Wow, really? No,

I'm curious about what is going on with that

Snowpiercer. It's like, hey, we got this train

and it's got a very strict social caste system.

It seems like that's gonna be super heavy -handed

with like social commentary. Yeah But then that's

the topic these days It's all about movies that

everyone is supposed to have their place in society

and breaking out and rebelling against it That's

that's a classic thing that's been around for

forever. It's just also every movie is trying

to do it though Definitely interesting to have

a whole world on a train. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean,

it's like there's clearly another world Yeah,

like oh no Isn't it done by like a kung fu director

or something? It looked like a kung fu style

movie Like, it was just like, ah, now 70 % of

you are going to die. That was very, uh, Emperor

Palpatine. That's good. I like that. You're gonna

die. Now you're Skywalker. Um, Nate, you have

some thoughts on Tammy, right? Oh, God. Ugh.

Ehh. Don't go see Tammy. Come on, seriously.

Kimmeh. It's the most like murica movie ever

Like I was showing I was showing Kevin earlier

like I was like, you know what Tammy is go go

to Google search type in America without the

a and then that's what that movie is gonna be

like Like I told me it will do well because Melissa

McCarthy is in it and she's box office gold right

now So people will go see that just like they'll

go see anything that Kevin Hart's in So that'll

work Did I say rage because what I meant was

taken featuring We've seen taken tried by let's

see Mel Gibson Well, he did it first. Yeah And

but he did it before and then he tried to do

it again after taken Didn't know Yeah, and then

we've seen Liam Neeson try to do it multiple

times now to recreate that. We've seen other

actors and now we get Nicholas Cage who's going

to be trying to do the same thing. My daughter's

been kidnapped and I'm going to go crazy. Was

it kidnapped? I thought they just killed them

all. No, they show them dragging her off. Oh,

OK. But no, like, they should just call it Rage

Cage. Oh, man. I would go see the Rage Cage starring.

Cow gas yeah rage And then snowpiercer, which

I call divergent rated are What you brought up

that just seems like the same basic premise that

we just saw like he said Millions of times but

a lot more recently I didn't know that that was

the look that they were gonna go for Alexander

and the terrible horrible no good very bad day

I don't know what I expected that to be but I

didn't know that Steve Carell and All that was

gonna be involved. So, I mean, I don't know.

I like some of the stuff that he does Yeah Good.

It looks like a cheesy kids movie. Yeah. I mean

good people might be worth a free watch at some

point if you like James Franco and What's the

chick that's in that oh, yeah, I just like Saw

the the title good people and I was I couldn't

remember watching that trailer and now that you

say James Franco I'm like, yep Yeah, they basically

have like a someone in their house or a tenant

or somebody dies They get a bunch of money that's

drug money or bad money or something and they're

trying to use it and then people are coming after

him I think we've seen that too before but James

Franco again, you know that one looks interesting

and maybe this is a too much of a nitpick, but

it's like It was 200 ,000 pounds, which is roughly

$300 ,000. And it's like, I don't know, man.

If I'm a drug lord making millions in the year,

like that much, I'm not going to invest that

much time. You know, like, it's like, how much

money are you going to get back out of this?

Like, usually you'd think that they would just

blow it really quickly. And it's like, so what?

You just shoot them in the head and keep going.

Right. Right. Anything? For you guys for the

additional trailers to those other movies that

made you either more or less interested in those

films at all. I'm a little worried about Dawn

of the Planet of the Apes. Yeah, like it doesn't.

I'm not. I didn't get like the moment in the

trailer where it's like, ah, this movie, this

will be cool because of this. It just seemed

like I don't know. It looks like. Looks like

it's gonna be a difficult one. It doesn't there

doesn't seem to be like a standout character

or standout actor or anything really and Interesting

well you saw the guy from lost in there, right?

which one I thought I saw the guy from lost in

there the Sawyer Sawyer. Yeah. Was it Sawyer?

I thought it was. But as we learned from the

original Planet of the Apes, the second one wasn't

very good there. So hopefully they can avoid

that. But I got it. I don't think they'll have

like telekinesis. No, hopefully not. And Adam

bombs and stuff. I almost was partially hoping

to avoid everything about this film until I saw

it, because I was afraid stuff like this would

come out where it kind of does shake my confidence

in this film a little bit. It had too much of

the look of just your general like. Not not really,

I mean, they already dealt with the with the

disease and the, you know, the kind of cataclysmic

event, you know, save the human race type thing,

but. I don't know, it just it just looks too

much like your typical survival type film. And

there's a lot of apes talking, which I guess

they had to eventually. But I'm not sure if this

vocal, like the voiceovers match what I was watching.

But maybe that's just because it's a trailer.

Hopefully it's not going to be disjointed like

that in the film. Anything else, Nate? No a million

ways to die in the dust in the West in the I'm

still in the dust. I'm still interested in it

mainly because it is a it is a Western but I

don't know I want to see I don't know if I would

pay full price to see it like maybe matinee if

you know What about you Matt any of those films

pique your interest now more than they did or

less? I'm not gonna lie. I didn't watch the new

trailers Like, I feel like I'm already sold or

not sold. Like, I didn't watch. I saw maybe a

third of 21 Jump Street. And I wasn't attached

to the old franchise, so I'm not super interested

in the sequel. You guys can be angry at me, but

I haven't really seen a Planet of the Apes movie

in probably 10 years. And from that, I don't

really remember much. Yeah. Have you seen the

most recent Planet of the Apes film? The one

that came out less than ten years ago? No, the

one that came out less than three years ago.

Shut up. I thought you meant any of the originals.

I didn't know. No, I meant any period. Like,

I have not, no, none of them. Okay. And then

A Million Ways to Die in the West, I was very

like, until the Doc Brown one, and I know it's

just the one gag that I've already seen, but

now I'm like, well, I'll go. Maybe. And Maleficent,

actually, I've been told that my girlfriend,

she has a date and a group of people selected

to go see that. And if I want to go, I have to

make my schedule work for that. Wow. So, you

know, I'll definitely be able to see that, I

guess. Well, if it doesn't work for you, I'll

just take your spot. I'll definitely be watching

that one. Even if it ends up being bad or not,

I'm interested in Maleficent big time. I'm going

to have to see the original Sleeping Beauty because

I haven't seen that. Before I see my left foot

That's the that's the sound that it has whatever

Nate says he likes something that everyone hates

It's the sound of me saying yeah, I haven't seen

that big movie It's in my opinion is probably

the worst Disney princess movie there is Like

yeah, I mean outside of Snow White of course

probably No, no snow white you have the dwarves

I like the dwarves shut up I like snow white

too They can't be dwarves I have a better dwarf

beard than half of those if not all of those

dwarves That's true. If you actually break down

snow white It's it's not a good one is awful

for another day. Yeah Alright, well we're going

to be right back with our main attraction, which

this week we're not actually looking at a specific

film, but we're going to do something else. Hopefully

that's just as fun. We will be breaking down

our top 10 movie super villains, so we'll get

to that right after the break. In a dangerous

world, governments crumble, chaos reigns. In

a treacherous time, there is opportunity in chaos.

Evil is a fact. We shall succeed where they have

failed. Drax is on a quest for a supernatural

power. They know far too much. And courage...

Stop them. But the only one who can is a phantom.

Who was that guy? Somebody I already... Alright,

thanks for sticking with us. Before we get to

our top ten supervillains from the film world,

we will real quick talk about what we've been

watching this last weekend when together we watched...

All three of us watched two films this Friday

night because I did not have to work and I could

watch both films. So we got to see we started

off with a with a I don't know how to describe

that. I would call it a classic, but that's too

much praise for that film. We started by watching

a film called the druids. How is that even the

classic? Where did you get that word from? It's

old. Oh, I could say something good about this

film. It's it's like it's like 12 years old.

It's not even that old. It felt like it was 30

years old. Yeah. Matt, give us a give us your

sum up. What was the experience of watching the

druids? Well. Do a plot synopsis first. Well,

okay, so it's based on some horstical events.

Some historical events. Apparently, Rome once

dealt with some druids, I guess, and this is

dealing with that, apparently. I don't even know,

it's like, so there's a kid, there's a bunch

of druids. I think. Druids is a terrible name

for this movie. There's a bunch of guys in some

robes, and they're all like, we're an equal council.

They're the Gauls. And they're all like, well,

we should have a king. And it's like, well, I

have a crown in my pocket. I'm going to give

it to this guy. He'll be king. And then that

guy gets shot with an arrow. And then Christopher

Lambert's like, that's my dad, only he's not

Christopher Amley, because he's like five at

this point. And then he goes to grab the crown,

and then like, Count Dooku takes the crown from

him, so he has to bite Count Dooku's guy's hand

or whatever. And then he grows up to be Christopher

Lambert, and then he leads the Gauls in victory

against Rome, only he doesn't because that never

happened. It's actually called the Gaul in other

territories. Yeah, which is a way better... I

mean, this could have been an epic story because

it's basically about how, you know, all the different

tribes of Britain, you know, the Gauls and all

become united to try to fight against the Roman

Empire. And it seems like it could have been

like this epic film slash historically accurate.

And instead they went this route with it. Yeah.

Joe dirt and like That's the only way to know

that he's aged is because his his facial hair

and his actual hair changes He grows more and

more like Joe dirt as the movie progresses You

being able to try to keep track of the length

and the style of his facial hair and his regular

hair is your only shot To somehow keep the timeline

straight in this film Quentin Tarantino, man.

It makes Quentin Tarantino, like, look very easy

to follow. Yeah. Like, literally there would

be scenes where it'd be like, um, we should send

the Gaul to defeat Britain. And he's like, I'll

go to Britain and beat him. And then it's cut

to, he's got a mustache. And it's like, that

was a pretty good campaign to get to Britain.

Like, no, wait, did that happen? The entire film

is like them getting ready for or walking towards

a potential battle with never a battle actually

happening Until then it does and it's terrible

and then it doesn't they just get destroyed And

then he just goes I'm ruining this film so that

nobody will watch this and then he just goes

and surrenders to Caesar And then it skips to

a voiceover that says Caesar's assassinated by

Brutus but The voiceover literally does this.

It first talks about Caesar being killed and

then says, and two years before that, King Levegenedrix.

I don't know what his name was. King Vectrex.

But was killed on the same steps that Caesar

just got killed two years later. And the dude's

name is what? Visigenerix. Visigenerix. He's

got the longest name in the history of the world,

I think. This I can't I couldn't follow I didn't

know where we were or when we were It did give

us like a subtitle that said where we were at

at one point at the very very very beginning

Yeah, and then like one like three quarters through

the movie. They did it again You're like, where

was that the whole time and then you also get

Something that's not done usually in these types

of movies When they're getting ready for the

one battle and they didn't really want to fight

the battle So they just got all the women in

the town to just go topless and distract the

entire Roman legion Yeah, there's there's like

Nudity in this movie. It's all terrible nudity.

It's the worst nudity. You can possibly put No

purpose and wasn't all that appealing There's

can you say anything good about this film Nate?

It was amusing to watch Christopher Lambert wear

such terrible wigs. You know, every once in a

while you're trying to watch a film and there's

so much noise and there's so much stuff going

on like in your house or wherever you're at that

you feel like you can't really pay attention

to it. This film had that feel. Even if you were

alone with like laser eye focused. Yeah. Although

there was things going on in the house at the

very beginning of it. And I at first was going

to be thinking that that was distracting from

our enjoyment of this film. And then I realized

that it made no difference. So then we followed

Druids up with a movie entitled The Phantom.

Yes. Nate, talk about The Phantom. One of my

favorites. Yeah, it's super cheesy from the 90s

like ultra adventure old like it's kind of like

they basically were like remaking cereals from

the 40s and into a current movie from the 90s.

So I don't know it it it it's a fun movie and

I just enjoy the hokey atmosphere that it's created

and whatnot. Yeah, I like it a lot. I like Billy

Zane and Also like tree Williams as the Sinister

Zander Drax. Yes with a cool name And I really

didn't have too much of our problem with the

with the the Phantom and the lost skulls from

the Indiana Jones film Besides his ridiculous

jumping ability at the beginning of the film,

but Other than that, no, I think it was good.

And we talked about what was it a week or two

ago about the possibility of having a new Phantom

film. And I'd be all for that. That'd be fun.

It's fun. It's like Indiana Jones Jr. So it's

cool. But it's Indiana Jones in a big purple

leotard and you know, he is. Yeah. Which weren't

necessary because they showed him topless and

he was pretty muscular at that point. Yeah. Oh,

he's like Billy Zane is super. super ripped in

this movie. What did you think of the Phantom

Man? I'd never seen it before, which is interesting.

At least if I had seen it, I'd totally forgotten

about it. But it was a lot of fun. Honestly,

I expected to go. I went in expecting a really

campy kind of like Nate looking over at me going,

huh? That's how I love movies like that. Yeah,

no, I know it turned out to be a nice fun adventure

movie that's pulpy and Not campy like campy like

but not much You know, it's funny cuz like I

do like over -the -top camp sometimes like the

1966 Batman movie is one of my favorites But

yeah, you can do too much and this one did not

do too much And it had a legion of female pilots.

Oh my god. I wanted more from them Which sounds

I sound like a total creep I imagine Yeah, but

I mean like I don't know they were that was a

really interesting take and I would have liked

to have seen more from them after You know getting

you know, I like fighter pilots. Yeah, I like

I like Star Wars I like dog fights and they had

a whole group of really cool fighter pilots And

then they were like really cool for one scene

and then like you get one of them the rest of

the movie and the rest of them are just gone.

But yeah, I would suggest that anybody that likes

superhero films or stuff of that genre, I think

that's an enjoyable film that you should check

out. And there's some decent acting in it and

some fun action and jumping off of planes and

to land on horses and stuff. So a lot of fun

to be had there, I would suggest it. I'm not

going to say like it was the greatest movie of

all time or anything, but it was fun. And I am

glad we watched it. It's a perfect word for it.

Fun. And hopefully this next part will also be

fun. Instead of talking about a singular movie

because we did not see any in the wake of Spider

-Man and getting ready for Godzilla, X -Men and

Transformers and apes and. Turtles and all kinds

of stuff. We didn't go to the theater this week.

So instead we were going to give you our list

of our top ten Favorite movie super villains

and how this is going to work is independently

We've all come up with our list of ten super

villains from films could be feature films direct

DVD films TV films, whatever And we're just going

to go around the table here and start with our

number ten And then we'll work our way down to

our favorite movie super villains. There will

be some I would imagine some people that might

show up on multiple people's lists But we'll

see how it goes Nate or Matt, who do you want

to who wants to start this whole thing? Should

we do a coin flip? Yes. Let's do a coin flip.

Okay The tails. All right. Okay, I'll go All

right. So Nate is gonna start off giving us his

number 10 favorite super villain from film All

right number 10. I might I chose the Joker from

the Dark Knight Heath Ledger And why did you

choose him? Because I felt like I had, I wasn't

going to originally put him on the list, but

then I was kind of watching his performance in

some YouTube videos and I was like, he did do

an amazing job. He needs to be on here. So I

don't remember who I took off. I took off someone

and then I put him back. I put him on. And we

will have a chance to talk about some of the

people that just missed our list once we get

everybody's list done. But yeah, I think a lot

of people would question us if we did this whole

topic without mentioning Heath Ledger as the

joke. Yeah, a good a good one to have on your

countdown. Matt, what was your number 10? My

number 10. Kind of a joke, but I still actually

agree with it, should be on the list, was the

U .S. Army from The Incredible Hulk. I don't

want to say Tim Roth was the best, or the guy

from that one sitcom that was the general was

the best, but I think that's the funny thing

is, you always look at superheroes and it's like,

who's this guy's most iconic villain? The Hulk's

most iconic villain is the U .S. government.

Namely the army and so, you know, they they kept

they kept to pulling out all the stops in that

movie They're like, let's try Sonic Cannon. Let's

try Super Soldiers. So that's that's my number

10 the whole army Matt gets bonus points for

thinking outside the box. Yeah And just for people's

reference, this doesn't have to be exactly like

from superhero films. We kind of open it up to

be like from comic book films in general or anything

that could kind of be considered a super villain.

I guess I might be stretching some people's definition

of that with my number 10. And I guess some people

might see it also as a joke, but I seriously

like. the way they designed this, uh, character

and the way it, uh, translated onto the big screen.

And, uh, my number 10 is actually, uh, James

Sato actually voice of David McCarran, but it's

a Shredder from the original live action Teenage

Mutant Ninja Turtles. That was my number 11.

I just like how they did that. I wasn't, you

know, being a fan of the turtles and seeing the

live action. I first of all, I wasn't disappointed

with how they did the turtles, but Shredder was

the thing that they either were going to get.

Right or it was gonna be awful, and I just liked

the shiny look of him. I liked the voice of him

I liked his the way he was played so I enjoyed

shredder from the original live -action films

super menacing Yeah, so I so that was my number

ten back to you Nate for your number nine number

nine I had the penguin from Batman returns played

by Danny DeVito I very strongly considered him

he did such a completely weird like Portrayal

of of the penguin Super grotesque like just a

weird weird Version of the penguin that I really

enjoyed watching I don't think there was any

anybody else at that time that they could have

really cast To play the penguin Like it seems

like Danny it was the He was born to be the thing

but seriously though like there's that one scene

where he like bites a dude's nose off. Like that

gave me nightmares as a kid. That was kind of

disturbing. I agree. No joke. That's to Matt

for your number nine. My number nine is definitely

going with that pretty comic book. He's not really

superhero, which is Karl Rubrik Kornanen. There

you go. Played by Ladislav Baron from the Hellboy

movie. He was the one, the clockwork guy with

like boards and stuff. That guy's awesome. You

know, he was entirely silent the whole time.

You could never tell whether he was alive or

dead. Like, he dies at one point, but he doesn't.

But I just, I loved the design of the character.

I loved the feel. I know exactly what that type

of character is. And he's Nazi Super Science

done right. And I would love to see a character

like that in the future. Yeah, for some reason

I don't know why because it probably has nothing

to do with that character whatsoever, but all

I could think about was The blade character from

Masters of the universe when you said that I

don't know why But I didn't even consider that

guy for my list Anyway, my number nine I'm gonna

stick with the Marvel Universe on this one and

go with Hugo Weaving's portrayal of the red skull

from from Captain America one or the first Avenger

I don't know. I like Hugo Weaving. I think he

plays a villain pretty well. And I thought the

Red Skull was done decently well in that film.

I wasn't really aware of any Captain America

villains with my ignorance of comic book stuff.

So that was my first introduction to that character.

And I thought it looked pretty legit and pretty

freaky. And Nazi guys that have no skin on their

face are pretty scary. Yeah, Red Skull from Captain

America the First Avenger. That makes it number

eight for Nate. I have the Green Goblin from

Spider -Man 1 by Willem Dafoe. Because it's Willem

Dafoe and he talked to himself in a mirror and

that was awesome. That again was somebody that

I had on my list originally until I counted my

list and ended up with too many things and I

had to eliminate some people and he got... cut

at the end, but I totally agree that he is worthy

of being on a supervillain list. Matt, what about

you for number eight? My number eight is Burgess

Meredith, who played the Penguin in the 1966

Batman movie. I love the 1960s Penguin. I love

that sound, I just do it all the time. I love

the gags with the penguins, the umbrellas, like

he shoots one down a hallway and it gases a bunch

of guys and they just, they fall and like make

teepees. It's great. That is probably my favorite

version of the penguin actually is probably that

one. I love the 1966 Batman movie, as I mentioned

earlier in the podcast. You know, if I go wah,

you know. Now we know why. Penguin number three.

Why is he always making that weird noise? My

number eight, I guess slightly out of the box,

maybe. Not everybody's put this guy on there,

but I think he was a pretty chilling, convincing

villain, and that was Stephen Dorff as Deacon

Frost from the Blade franchise. I don't know,

I just think he kind of had that young, cool,

charismatic, but absolutely crazy and awful villain

type. Thing going for him and he wasn't afraid

to, you know, even attack his own people. Um,

so I don't know. I liked Stephen Dorff as Deacon

Frost, so he made it as my number eight. Um,

you might not have liked Deacon Frost as much,

Nate, because you're not reacting at all. Wait,

I'm confused. Wait, what movie is this from?

From Blade? Oh God. Yeah, I forgot. Stephen Dorff

when he was like the young. No, I remember. Okay.

Anyway. Yeah. Uh, the Blade movies so far haven't

really. Struck my fancy. Yeah, that's fair enough

Yeah, what was your number seven eight number

seven? I had Lucas Lee from Scott Pilgrim played

by Chris Evans. He was the He was the evil ex

that was the movie star Okay, remember this barely

at all. Oh come on Yeah I don't know. I really.

Well, OK, so like I really like Chris Evans and

then also he just played a really fun character

in this. That's about it. That's my whole reasoning.

He was fun to watch and he was he he did a really

good job acting sort of like super campy and

kind of awesome. Fair enough. Matt, number seven.

My number seven. I went with a person I can't

pronounce the name of Aunt Jade. who played Faora

in the Man of Steel. The female Kryptonian. I

really liked, I don't know, I liked everything

about her. I think she had that beautiful but

intimidating presence and she would just fly

around and punch a dude and he'd be like, oh,

that dude's dead. And she really brought to the

screen what it would look like if Superman were

evil. And so I really liked her and so I put

her on my list. I agree with that inclusion 100%.

I'm glad that somebody had her on the list because

I thought she was one of the one of the best

things about that film. My number seven, Nate,

I think you'll appreciate this one. My number

seven is going to be Samuel L. Jackson as the

octopus. Nice. Awesome. I'm so glad he's on your

list. Why? He was just a bad ass crazy villain

in that film. And he did stuff that Villains

do that make your your skin crawl and stuff.

He was just evil and Samuel L. Jackson plays

a good bad guy. Nice. Even though he plays a

lot of good guys, I think he's better as a bad

guy. And I like the octopus. That's one thing

that stuck with me from that film in particular.

So, yeah. Cool. Number six, Nate. I had the Joker

from the 1966 Batman, the Cesar Romero version.

Don't really need to explain myself too much

He like Susan Romero is probably the most underappreciated

joker version I Need a lot of my list. He's not

I need a lot of 60s Batman stuff. Oh Matt bring

it over on Friday. I'll break it next week. Yeah

nice number six Matt my number six is Sebastian

Stan who played the Winter Soldier and at America

the Winter Soldier I wanted to put him higher

or lower as it were but I feel like you didn't

get enough of him like you know and they kept

saying in the movie like yeah he's got this many

confirmed kills and he doesn't kill anyone that

he's ever sent to assassinate so for that reason

he's not you know higher on the list but I thought

his performance was great he did a great job

and it was very interesting he really drove that

movie I agree with that too I actually in my

first go -through he was one of the people that

had made it past the first round and I was considering

but I think for kind of some of the reasons you

said I I didn't include him ultimately just because

compared to some of these people he didn't quite

get enough time but I think what really did it

for me was that was the portrayal of that uh

character and the design and the look of that

character I just think was spot on um and and

convincing and I just wish we would have got

to see him be a badass more um but I have no

problem with him being on anybody's list my number

six um again um Kind of blurring the lines maybe

a little bit for what people would consider on

this list But I'm gonna go with a character from

300 rise of an empire I know a lot of people

hate that film, but Ava Green as Artemisia was

probably one of the Best female badass villains

I've ever seen She just had kind of a combination

or a balance of Sexy slash seductress, but also

just ice cold killer. So I really she was probably

the best thing about that film. So that's why

I put her on my list. All right. So that brings

us to number five. Nate, what is your number

five? Number five for me is like super personal.

I chose Casanova Frankenstein from the movie

Mystery Men, played by Jeffrey Rush. Know who

Jeffrey Rush is yeah a lot of people do I've

never seen mystery man. What? I'm gonna see if

we can get that for Friday with Batman because

it would be the campiest It would be the campiest

Friday ever sounds like all kinds of fun. I googled

I am to beat mystery men because I remember loving

it I remember loving the the great Houdini or

whatever the the guy who throws things but uh

the blue Raja Blue Raja, and then I love Kel,

the invisible boy or whatever. But like, I couldn't

remember the villain well enough. You know, I

remember Jean Garofalo, I remember Ben Stiller.

Like, that movie's great. Yeah, well, what I

just liked about him is that he had like an army

of different gangs, like the Red Eyes and the

Disco Ones, I don't know what they were called.

And it was just like super weird and fun. And

then and then he was also just like trickster

dude cuz he like lied about shit. I don't know.

It was good It was a good movie. I liked it a

lot. Take your word for it. We gotta watch that

I'm all for it. You don't have to take his word

for it cuz we're gonna find it Oh, I own it.

I believe I own it. That means you own it. I

believe so I'll have to check but even easier

What is your number five? My number five already

been mentioned Hugo Weaving's Red Skull from

the Captain America First Avenger. Yay, I'm not

alone. I thought he brought a very interesting

and very comic book style take to it. I love

the rocket. that's like a spinning rocket. It's

like a rocket that goes up that has a spinning

rocket that goes, you know, in the car. It just,

and the people that are riding missiles, like,

it had a nice silly 40s feel to it, even in a

very serious movie. And I liked his leading of

it all. Hugo Weavey is creepy enough as it is.

I don't need him to then become the Red Skull

and become even creepier. I don't find him all

that creepy. I mean, he's not super attractive.

Okay, it kind of was agent Smith actually he

cover up his face see him being attractive But

I am all in support of people having people on

the list that I already had because just means

we're right That's probably the only one we're

gonna have in common from here All right. My

number five is actually I'm gonna go to the Dark

Knight trilogy and Pick Cillian Murphy as the

Scarecrow Just because for me that is the definition

of creepy. He's again he's an actor that can

pull off creepy fairly easily and I was actually

somewhat disturbed by the character the scarecrow

like I didn't know anything about the character

at all like I'd never seen him in anything and

maybe I'm afraid of scarecrows but I was disturbed

by him. So if he moved me that much in the villain

role I thought I should put him somewhere in

my list. See, I unfortunately haven't watched

the Batman Begins since Dark Knight came out.

Oh, I thought you were going to say it at all.

No, I have, but it's been so long. We were going

to chew up another moment where... Yeah, yeah.

I don't know, man. It's good for one or two viewings,

but when you get to the end and he's like, this

will evaporate all of the water in Gotham and

I'm totally fine to stand next to it, boop. That

that whole bit really bothered me a lot. Gotcha.

I haven't actually seen it in a long time I just

remember being creeped out by him and you did

a good job of portraying crane. Yeah All right

Nate that means it's your turn for number four

I had Doc Ock from spider -man 2 played by Alfred

Molina Again I really like spider -man 2 and

I just really liked Doc Ock a lot in that and

I guess Probably the coolest part of him was

how cool his his actual Arms were they were like

super puppeteered is really cool. I Don't like

that character, but I thought he played it perfectly

He played a bad character Great. No, I mean,

he's just not my favorite villain. Like, I'm

not big on him in general as a character, but

I think if they found the perfect person to play

it and it looked as good as it can probably possibly

look, I would think. But I mean, we'll obviously

see since it looks like they're going to have

a different version of Doc Ock coming up here

and eventually. But I don't know. That's a hard

act to follow. Yeah. I want to say the exact

opposite is I really like Doc Ock and I wasn't

impressed with that portrayal. Huh. I don't know.

I just like the whole they they did it that they

they took the blame away from it. It's like now

the tentacles are controlling him. It's like

ah It's dumb. All right, fair enough. Well, then

what is your number four, sir? My number four

is not gonna be on anyone's list and that is

John Travolta John Travolta as Howard Saint in

the Punisher movie I'm not a huge into Punisher.

I don't like you know, I'm not big into the heroes

that kill especially a Punisher because he just

goes around shooting people that said um the

first Punisher movie with John Travolta as the

villain is perfect wow one thing from the original

thing which is what they moved it from uh New

York to like LA or San Francisco they moved it

from one coast to the other and other than that

it was a perfect retelling of the story it was

down pat all of the acts were great The supporting

characters were amazing. Like, that's actually

one of my favorite comic book movies. And I really

don't have a reason to not own it. Now wait a

second. What? Do you, do you only like it because

it's true to the source material, or... Is it

just... It's true to the source material, and

it's a fun action movie. Like, he's not my favorite

superhero character, but he does make for a good

movie. Hmm. Okay. But it is, it is really true

to the source, and that's a major plus for me.

I haven't seen it, but I would totally watch

it now. I did not know it was good at all. I

watched it in theaters with Jimmy all those years

ago. Yeah. I don't know if I've seen it since.

It might not hold up. But I remember walking

out of theater going, wow, John Travolta played

a really creepy villain. And that was a really

good Punisher movie. I can buy John Travolta

in a lot of villainous roles. I always thought

it was kind of weird when he played like the

leading man or the hero because I was like, he's

a better villain. That's a face off for me. First

half an hour face off going, I can't, I don't

believe John Holt is a good guy and I don't believe

Nicholas Cage is a bad guy. And then all of a

sudden it's like snap. Oh, now we're good. Everything

makes sense. My number four. I guess I don't

really need to say much about it because I'm

pretty sure a lot of people would have that on

their list. It's not too inventive or creative.

I'm going straight to Jack Nicholson as the Joker.

It's freaking Jack Nicholson. I shouldn't need

to explain that, I don't think. I don't know.

Maybe you guys are more versed on Batman stuff.

Maybe you don't like that version. But for me,

that was one of the first super villains I can

remember seeing in a movie. And I was just like...

I don't know, I was buying it hook line and sinker.

I don't know, I think that one sucks. That being

said - That movie or that Joker? That Joker.

That being said, my number three is Jack Nicholson

Joker. You think it sucks when you put it in

your top ten. No, I'm just kidding. It was just

weird, your number four and then my number three

was the same exact one. So you can probably give

a better reason for why he's so good. Uh, it's

Jack Nicholson, I don't think I need to say any

more about that. No. Um, dude, he just had so

many memorable scenes, like, watching that movie

is so much fun, watching him do crazy Joker stuff

is great. Um, yeah, I don't know. My reasoning

is just, ah, it's fun to watch. That's pretty

much, that's like, my entire list is, I like

it because it's fun to watch. There's really

no... Is it? I mean, if you were before any of

these movies that we've been mentioning had come

out, if you just had like someone like pitching

you the idea and you're like, OK, we're doing

a superhero film and all we're all we have so

far is that Jack Nicholson is going to be the

villain. Which villain would he be like? Isn't

Joker like the automatic answer like any super

any super villain? But I feel like Joker is the

one like that he is perfect for. 25 years ago,

I think you're totally right nowadays. I don't

know Back when that movie first came out definitely

Now I don't know. I mean he's different than

he was then Yeah, that's true. No, I kind of

mean back then but I just think that was the

perfect villain choice for him But Matt, what

was your number three my number three? I'm gonna

break the mold. I'm gonna go with the Joker played

by Cesar Romero I'm gonna be a little bit different.

I I like his performance a little bit better

than Jack Nicholson. He's a little less scary,

which I mean, there's so many different ways

to play the Joker. I mean, that's why Nate's,

like you said, a joker three times now. Yes,

that is the third joker on my list. So like,

I mean, there's a different way to play the Joker

and every one of them is totally believable versus

Batman. Like you could take the Jack Nicholson

joker, throw him up against the The Christian

male Batman and it's still believable even though

he's so incredibly different from the I don't

know if you could take Heath Ledger Joker and

put him against Adam West I think I think that

one would be the the starkest contrast but you

could totally take the Cesar Romero Joker and

throw him against Christian but uh I do I would

I would pay to read that story the bad the Adam

West Batman versus the other joker like is like

why so serious and it's like you need to be less

serious um you know or like i'm always serious

against crime joker pow zap um but like love

his take on the Joker and I love there's one

moment in the 1966 movie where the the Riddler

is all like we're gonna win and then like Joker's

like you need to calm down or Batman's going

to find us and it's like did the Joker just have

a sane moment against the Riddler and it's just

like but I mean all of his crazy schemes like

we're gonna kidnap the Commodore and I'm gonna

pretend to be a shoreman like It's so much fun,

and it totally works as the Joker. He's got the

seriousness, or he's got the silliness, but he's

still got a bit of seriousness when he needs

it. Also, Cesar Romero is amazing in everything

he does. Alright, my number three. I don't know

if people are going to think we're biased towards

this character, but my number three is Joker

as well. But since I already used Jack Nicholson,

I'm backing him up right next to Heath Ledger

as number three. I don't know. I think he presented

a different side of that character or a different

tone. Obviously, the whole Batman Begins Dark

Knight trilogy is darker and grittier. And I

think that would be more appreciated if a bunch

of films haven't tried to mimic that sense, if

they would have just let this kind of stand alone

in that. But I don't know. I think he got the

feel. That they were going for in that movie

downright and I appreciated that role and it's

not just because he died So, I don't know. I

like his Joker just a touch better than Jack

Nicholson's but very very close You can all disagree

with me I don't think that he was my favorite

Joker, but I mean that that's probably more the

take unless the actor he did a great job. Yeah

Alright, so no joker allowed Nate. What's your

number two? I have no more jokers on my list

Number two I had the octopus By Sam Jackson in

the spirit nice again super fun to watch Amazingly

like memorable scenes and stupid lines and fun

Antics that he did, you know like Uh, just throwing

toilets at people. I don't know. It's just a

silly, great movie that I can never get enough

of. It's one of my favorite superhero movies.

Might be my favorite superhero movie. Even though

I know that, like, historically it got panned

and it made, like, no money at the box office,

but whatever. I really enjoy it. It's a fun film.

And that's a fun character. It's all theaters,

so, I mean, I gave it my money. How do you feel

about the octopus? I don't remember, because

I haven't seen it since theaters. I remember

he had like a Tweedledee and Tweedledum. And

I remember the spirit being pretty well portrayed,

though there were some slight changes to his

visibility. But I liked those changes. They weren't

for the worse. They went, you know, with a more

pulpy style. Yeah, I like that movie when I saw

it. Um, I want to see it again. We should sleep

that up on the table if it's not We watched it

already, but we can watch it again I'll watch

it again Okay, Nathan will watch it any time.

Yeah. Yeah, I know he will Alright, what's your

number two met just to show the differences between

Nate and I because there are very many I also

went with Sam Jackson is number two But I went

with mr. Glass from unblake breakable. I was

wondering if you would find a spot on anybody's

list Oh, I wanted to but then I was like guys

not superhero enough cuz I kept thinking like

everyone should be up against a hero or a superhero

or something but Well, but he was like I mean,

it's it's one of those ones that you don't think

of it as a comic book movie But they mentioned

comic books and he's like, you know, we always

near foil Yeah Like I mean they had a lot of

the elements and he was a super he was a villain

at the very least. Yeah If his superpower is

that he's made out of glass then that's he got

the bad end of the spectrum Unbreakable is in

my top three favorite movies of all time I think

he should have probably been number one. The

only one the only reason I gave number one is

uh to someone else's because I think that the

other person did a better job of portraying the

role that I wanted but Yeah, mr. Glass number

two All right my number two I don't know if we've

had anybody from this entire franchise. Looking

over, I don't think we have. My number two, we're

gonna go to the X -Men franchise, and that would

be Ian McKellen as Magneto. I think the playing

off of Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart off of

each other is just pure casting genius. I think

Magneto... Ian McKellen as Magneto was the kind

of the perfect foe for Xavier and Ian McKellen's

a great actor so he did it very well. He can

pull off the bad guy role very easily I think

and I think across the board throughout that

entire franchise he's been pretty consistent

as a pretty decent. I mean I know at times he's

not 100 % bad or whatever but he's pretty consistent

and I really enjoy his performance. So Ian McKellen

my number two and that means we only have room

for one more each. What is your top top villain

Nate? Oh I don't know if Matt's gonna hate me

for my top one because of How far they've gone

away from the actual comic book, but my number

one is the Mandarin from Iron Man 3 He was like

on my list, but I removed him I like they did

I love like how they took because the Mandarin

isn't a good villain. He's never been a good

villain. And in fact, you were Matt, you're saying

that like every time they put him in a book,

the the sales drop. There's a lot. Yeah, the

guy who owns my comic book shop calls him the

reverse Joker. Right. But but I love how they

took. The whatever they just they just made it

completely original character for iron man three

and how I mean you see an iron man three all

of you obviously yeah okay so just how like they

completely turned what you thought it would be

upside down towards like the midpoint and he

just ends up being like some actor that's like

addicted to you know. Drugs and stuff like and

it's been Kingsley and Ben King Lee is known

for playing great villains and This one it's

like he's a villain, but he's like not really

because he just seems like a normal kind of guy

That's like messed up, but I just I just love

how they took the character and Completely rethought

it and they tried to do something completely

different with it, and I loved it I am fully

supportive of everything you said there, but

I also can't wait for people to sound off about

that. Do people hate? Did people hate that or

something? Really a lot of people had problems

with it. I don't care We're gonna get post they're

gonna be like he's not even a super villain.

How could you put him on your this? But I like

I love that they did that with him I love uniqueness,

but Matt maybe have a different take if they

if they had gone with the comic book Mandarin

people would could be complaining significantly

more Because the concrete Mandarin his superpower

is he has ten rings and each one does one unique

thing And it's like, you know, he's got like

a disintegrator ray and a freeze ray on two rings.

But then like one of them opens doors and the

other one turns on his computer. It's like it's

like we gave him 10 rings and then like by ring

eight, like the writers are like, I don't even

know. I don't know door ring. The thing about

it, I was hearing someone talk about him and

they were like, they were like, you know, they

could just make the Mandarin now be the Mandarin

if people are that upset because they can just

give him rings. Yeah. And it would be the Mandarin.

Yeah. Well, they did have any of you seen the

what do they call it the short or the Little

quick film that they did of him in jail No, no,

okay. It was on the I'm gonna get this wrong

Maybe on the Thor 2 DVD or maybe it's gonna be

on the Captain America one or whatever But they

did a they did like a spot of following ben kingsley's

character as he went into jail i don't know how

long it is but it kind of hints that there's

more to him that we haven't seen um so i thought

that was i haven't seen it but i'd be interested

to see exactly how are they are they doing an

iron man four oh they gotta be i don't know i

haven't heard anything about iron man four but

uh I think those films make a lot of money, so.

I mean, they're trying to do only two a year,

so Iron Man 4 is probably not like 2017. Yeah,

that's 2025 or something. OK. I got to get another

Hulk in there somehow. Matt, you're top of your

list. My number one. Totally. for performance

and doing exactly what I want this character

to do on the big screen. I'm going with Kevin

Spacey as Lex Luthor from Superman Returns. In

the last year I've seen every Superman movie

made in the last 30 years or whatever and he

does that role perfectly. I love Kevin Spacey

and almost everything he does and him as Lex

Luthor is great. All the bits are great. I love

that movie personally. I have very few problems

with it, and I think he did perfectly That's

my number one a lot of people hate that movie

right a lot of people I have not seen it yet

I avoided it because I have no interest in Superman

But now that I've seen like Man of Steel and

some of this other stuff I feel like I need to

go back and watch like we watched the original

First movie of Superman with Christopher Reeves.

I'd like to finish that off and then eventually

see Superman Returns. But just kind of growing

up, I'd always had little to no interest in Superman

as a character. But I do think that Kevin Spacey

was good casting for that. I can see him in that

role. Paid by Gene Hackman. Yeah, definitely.

All right. My number one, I think we would probably

get a lot of hate mail if he hadn't ended up

on somebody's list somewhere. And I will be a

hundred percent predictable with this pick, but

I'll give a mention to Tom Hiddleston as Loki

Just because I think he was number 12 for me.

Okay, just because I don't know like he If you

think about what the Marvel Universe has done

With with I'm not talking about X -Men spider

-man etc. But if you're just looking at the the

Avenger movies They haven't always done it even

though they've they haven't really missed on

a movie they've made pretty much all good movies

but they don't they haven't hit the villain on

the head every single time yet they've they've

had some villains that have missed the mark or

not been quite as good um and to me loki was

really kind of the glue behind that first wave

of of marvel films and i think he was a perfect

choice to have in the avenger film um and tom

hiddleston is just a good actor And he steals

most of the scenes that he's in. So I don't really

have anything bad to say about him. I think he's

been one of my favorites to watch. What do you

think, Nate? Yeah, I think I agree with that.

He's definitely in the Thor movies. He's definitely

the the reason why you watch a Thor movie. But.

Don't know. I was gonna put him on my list But

then I was kind of like thinking back to all

the scenes in them and they weren't they just

weren't his room Rememberal memorable memorable

Whatever as Some of the other people on my list.

I don't know for some reason it just didn't stick

with me as much as the other ones Fair enough.

What did you what do you think of Loki Matt?

I really like Tom Hiddleston and I I'm very pleased

with some of the things they've done with him.

I have nothing negative to say. I think he probably

would have been my number 12 as well. I think

we have a lot of variety on our list, not just

Marvel, not just DC. We have a variety of things

outside of those worlds, a lot of jokers, but

definitely some variety there. I just wanted

to get a quick discussion or quick mentions of

some people that might have just missed your

list. I can start, because I originally had basically

18. People the first time through and then I

kept kind of cutting it down and you've mentioned

some of them Willem Dafoe as Green Goblin Danny

DeVito as Penguin The Winter Soldier you guys

all mentioned those during your list. I also

think that I somewhat liked Rebecca Romain Stamos

as Mystique If I was trying to find another female

outside of the couple that we mentioned I think

she's in the running and I also liked Mickey

Rourke as Whiplash. Not as much as a bunch of

these other ones. That's why he didn't make my

list, but I considered him for a second. I also

considered Liam Neeson as Ra's al Ghul just because

I love Liam Neeson. So why not think about him

for a minute? And I actually appreciated Michael

Shannon as General Zod in Man of Steel, even

though everybody hated that film. So those are

some that I consider that I didn't quite put

on the list. What about you, Nate? I my list

was a lot shorter like I immediately went to

all the ones that I wanted I had a couple that

I left off the only ones I can actually remember

were The shredder and I actually had the super

shredder not just shredder but and then Loki

Okay, I was those were the two that I remember.

Yeah, did you have any that just missed the list

there Matt? Yeah, a couple. One thing I wanna

say, and this is totally not on you, this is

on Christopher Nolan for Bad Direction, but his

name's actually pronounced Raish. Okay. It's

R -A -S, it's Middle Eastern. So it's like, you

know, you look at it, it's like, Roz, why not?

Gotcha. But that's not how it's supposed to be

pronounced. They did it wrong in that movie.

Anyway. I had Zod as a possible. The two that

neither one of you mentioned, one of was Mr.

Freeze, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Batman and

Robin, because who doesn't love ice puns? Also,

I don't know, I kind of like his performance

in that movie. I wasn't super impressed with

Uma Thurman. I need to re -watch it, because

in my mind he did a really good job. And then

the final one would be Professor Bedlam, played

by Eddie Izzard in My Super Ex -Girlfriend. That

was my number 11. That's a comedy, but it's superhero

based. And that's where Uma Thurman did a better

job acting. I really like that movie. I caught

it one day on cable. I was just hanging out at

my parents' place. I was slipping through the

channels, and I just ran into it right as it

was starting. And I watched the whole thing.

I was entranced. You know, I like... um day -to

-day superhero stuff and that's exactly what

it was all right a bunch of interesting choices

there from all of us i assume uh that people

will be interested to see what we came up with

and uh we'd like to hear what your favorite supervillains

are so uh feel free to post on the website and

give us what's your number one or your top three

or top five super villains would be and which

ones do you disagree with big time from our list

and which ones do you agree with? Any other thoughts

on the list in general, Nate? No, I don't know.

I got nothing. Got nothing? Matt, what do you

think of our selection overall? I like it. I'm

glad that there was a lot of diversity between

us and that we weren't just the same ten things

done over in different directions. We didn't

just list every villain from the Marvel universe.

Or the Batman universe. All right, so As far

as coming attractions for this next week some

blu -rays and DVD releases that you may or may

not be interested in As far as films from from

last year go Her the combo pack is coming out

So if you missed her that came out right towards

the end of the year That was Dan and I's both

of our picks for the best movie of the year that

comes out On blu -ray this week so you can pick

that up Outside of that, oh, Stalingrad on 3D,

that was kind of a very limited release in theater,

but that's coming out on Blu -ray as well. And

I guess if you're old school, maybe you'd like

the Crocodile Dundee Crocodile Dundee 2 double

feature on Blu -ray. Anything on that list that

you guys are going to run out and buy? No. I

don't have the list out in front of me, actually.

And that's a no. As far as... Go ahead. They've

got the Oceans Trilogy collection. Oh, yeah.

But I mean, like, you know, the thing that bothers

me is that I can go to Walmart and get all four

Oceans 11 movies. Right. Including the original

with the Rat Pack, which, if you ask me, was

the best one of the four. I'd say having only

seen like three of them. I missed a couple, too,

because I Frankenstein was from, I believe, last

year. That's coming out. That last year was that

just January that was like that might be January

three months ago they're hoping to make a couple

dollars since they made no money in the theaters

on that and And I also miss it a triple feature

pack flushed away chicken run and Wallace and

grommet. Oh, yeah So some for the animation fans

out there And as far as theater stuff stuff,

you might want to Spend some money on might not

a few a few films that we've talked about obviously

the big one this week is Godzilla Coming out

in 3d 2d IMAX everything so you can see that

starting Thursday Million dollar arm the baseball

films coming out and then a few that we talked

about the trailers of recently half of a yellow

Sun the immigrants But I would assume if people

are going to the theater this week They're probably

going to see either a film that's already been

out or they're going to see Godzilla Nate anything

on that list that interests you that you want

to see eventually um I do want to see Godzilla

Just not as much as Matt. No Matt Matt really

wants to see it Everybody I've talked to really

wants to see that I don't know like I'm not the

biggest Godzilla fan and So far the trailers

haven't really sold me on it yet, but I do want

to see it I Mean it clearly looks like it's gonna

be Done better than any Godzilla film has ever

been done before As far as the visual effects

go, okay Which is obviously what you expect since

it's later on and etc Matt, did you like the

90s or early? What was it 96 98 version? That

could be I always call it Godzilla 2000 because

I think it came out 99 and then had a TV show

in 2000 But I did not enjoy like I was a kid

then I mean that was 15 years ago That's over

half my life. And so I don't remember it very

well. I remember it being like, he looks weird.

He's got a long face. I don't know. And also,

I think he lived in the subway, which didn't

make any sense. But I could be wrong about that.

Nothing in the movies made any sense. Yeah. I

didn't. I wasn't super impressed with that one.

I was a fan of Godzilla later in life. Like when

I turned like 18, 19, I watched like a half dozen

Godzilla films. and fall in love with the character.

That might have even been my first exposure to

Godzilla. I do not like it. But I hope they have

some of the silly campiness in this movie. Like,

I hope he puts another monster in a headlock

and punches his face. See, I think I think that's

why I'm not interested in it is because they're

going to do it way too serious. And like, it

looks really like like this is what would actually

happen if a giant monster. And it's like, yeah,

but like. Come on, it's a giant monster. It's

a guy in a suit half a dime. Yeah I hope I hope

they have some some cheese some cameo cameo,

um some campiness Something to give me a little

bit of a hint to the old movies Because I mean

there's one movie where godzilla literally gets

a running start and jumps like a mile just perfectly

horizontal until he kicks something With his

tail dragging against the ground and it's just

like yeah do a godzilla So, I mean, if they don't

do something campy, I'm gonna be upset with that

movie. But, I mean, I like Elizabeth Olsen ever

since I saw Old Boy. She was the best part of

that movie. So, hopefully we get more of her,

and I hope Godzilla helps her. Alright. Well,

looking at last week's question, as far as some

credit conversation, we asked what the choice

would be for the other member of the Sinister

Six, Freddy Savage. Our super fan there mentioned

Mysterio. Let's see, who else did we have? Some

general comments, but a lot of hate. Yeah, a

lot of hate on Spider -Man in general. Oh, Shocker.

Justin Washington had mentioned him. Craven the

Hunter got mentioned. And let's see, Mysterio

again, Craven again. So those seem to be the

most common ones, and then Jeremy Fain, Scorpion.

So those were the names that got mentioned, and

we obviously gave our answer to that as far as

what we would want to see. And the question for

next week we already said, give us your favorite

supervillains of all time. Give us your number

one, or if you want to do a list like we did,

one, three, five, ten, however many you want

to do, but which ones did you like, and which

ones on our list do you think were terrible that

shouldn't have been there, or which ones do you

agree with, and all that jazz. Alright, so I

think that does it for this week. Thanks as always

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