CINEMA GEEKS
Superman, 300: Rise of an Empire, and Titanic II Review

About this Episode
Today on MYR Weekly, we'll be discussing Superman
1, the first Blade film, problems for Noah, and
another Titanic film. So stay tuned to MY Weekly.
Dan is not. Dan made some comments on the website
last week about Ace Ventura and Jim Carrey not
being funny, so I temporarily kicked him off
the podcast. No, in all seriousness, Dan has
some personal job situation going on, so he is
not going to be available for MY Weekly Records
for the distant future here, so we will see how
that goes. So, I am taking the helm this week.
And I have brought along a couple special guests
making their GeekCast Radio Network debuts. First
of all, I've referenced him multiple times when
I was talking about watching All the Planet of
the Apes, as well as a bunch of other stuff.
I've mentioned Crappy Movie Night multiple times.
So the first guest I want to bring on board here
is my roommate, Nate Crocker. Hello, sir. Hey,
how's it going? My name's Nate. I'm on a podcast.
Let's go. That's a great introduction, sir. I
don't know what you're talking about. Nothing,
that's good. They know your name and they know
what your voice sounds like, that's good enough.
And also along with us is another special guest,
and that is the, as far as I think my first introduction
to Crappy Movie Night was at his house, and that
is Nate's, one of Nate's best friends, Matt.
Hello, Matt. Hello. So we are all going to take
this trip. For those that have listened to the
podcast in the past, Do not expect the the normal
and wire weekly record this week or whenever
we do this because this is going to be a completely
different feel I believe and I think it's going
to be like if you took part geek cast radio network
record and you took part mystery science theater
3000 and then you Splash together like I don't
know like chicken pot pod for those people that
are familiar with that I think that might be
what you're going to about to get a mashup of
all of those things So I don't think you should
compare us to that. That's not delicious, whatever
that last thing was. It is. It's delicious, nostalgic
deliciousness in a pot pie. So anyway, so this
is going to go all kinds of different directions.
So just buckle up and get ready for this. Nate,
do you want to just do, as far as a little more
introduction, just as far as your movie watching
habits or what kind of geek? fandoms or geek
whatever trends that you've had over your life.
How do you find yourself in the geek realm? Well,
I don't know really. I mean I like comic books
and video games and silly movies and generally
when watching movies I just like something that
is fun and something that Either is completely
ridiculous. I'm not into very very Serious movies.
That's not really my thing, but I know other
people like it, but I don't know I can't really
get into it but yeah, I'm probably mostly a Video
game guy actually and that is an understatement
We need to take a picture of my basement and
put it on the episode post or something. He has
all things video games and his knowledge of video
game stuff surpasses just about anybody I've
ever known. So that is, like I said, an understatement.
Matt, what kind of geek stuff are you into mostly?
Well, I'm into anything. my D &D session early
to do this podcast. You know, comics, then the
multiple comic cons. Right now, my mouse pad
is sitting on top of three different movies of
varying qualities from the Italian job to break
into Electric Boogaloo. Yes. I watch any TV show
at least two to three times just to get a feel
for it. I'm wanting to do anything ever. I think
Electric Boogaloo was possibly one of the first
films I watched at one of the crappy movie nights.
Oh, you were there for Breaking 2? Yeah. I think
that was either the first or the second one.
That is such a good movie though, like really.
It actually is legitimately good. Yeah. It's
formulaic for the time, like it's a super 80s
formulaic movie, but it has so much style to
it. Feel like it's set up some of the formulas
to like like I feel like it's one of those things
that some of the things in it were originally
from it You know, we might have to like date
that and see which which came first, you know
Yeah, yeah, totally might have to do a whole
episode just on that film. Oh my god And for
those of you that don't know what I'm referencing
when I keep saying crappy movie night Mad or
Nate, why don't you explain what that was how
it came about? Yeah, so A long time ago, I played
this game called Blood Rain. I loved it. And
then it left rental places because I rented it
from a movie rental place. And then I became
an adult and I was like, you know, I want to
get that game again. I searched out. It was really
hard to find on eBay at the time. And then I
found out that if you bought the Blood Rain movie,
you get the second Blood Rain game for free.
Just all copies of the movie. And I remember
one of my friends saying, don't see the Blood
Rain movie. I know you love the game and it's
terrible. I bought the movie just to play the
game. It sat on my shelf for probably a year
and then I contacted my friend Nate. I was like,
you know what? I've got this really bad movie
that I know is bad. Everyone told me it's bad.
Do you want to sit down and watch it with me?
We did it. We met up at like 10 p .m. on a Sunday.
I bought a bunch of soda. We watched the movie.
It was amazing just how bad it was. And I was
like, why don't we just do this every week? And
then for about a year, Nate and I would just
try to find a movie that we knew would be legitimately
bad. There weren't any real rules. Eventually,
we started to focus more on action movies, because
then if it's bad, at least there's something
to watch. A bad drama just drags on. And that's
how Crap Big Movie Night started. And I remember,
as far as the few times that I was involved with
that, that it usually ended up also with a One
or two a .m. Trip to Taco Bell often yeah Back
then things were different. I don't know if I
had a job back then Oh, I worked late night on
Mondays. Yeah, we could stay up all night. We'd
go to Taco Bell come back watching commercials
for three hours Magic yeah, seriously, and it
wasn't always just a hundred percent movies sometimes
at least at the times I was there we'd watch
like an episode of Flight of the Conchords. There
would be some random cartoon that we'd watch.
Some weird cops from the 80s or whatever. I'd
never even heard of it. It was great. Crappy
cartoon night as well. Cops isn't crappy. I wouldn't
say that. I liked it. Anyway, so that's the crappy
movie night that we're referring to. You might
see some crappy movies that we'll talk about.
We're going to talk about one of them today actually.
I think it would qualify as a crap movie. But
anyways, how we usually start off each episode
is we take a quick look at the box office, see
how things did in the past weekend just to keep
everybody up to date. And like Dan and I, if
you were listening a few weeks ago, we made our
predictions for which 10 films would make the
most money in 2014. So it kind of gives us a
way to keep track of that. This past weekend,
we had a new number one. who took over from both
the Lego movie who had been number one for quite
a few weeks and then non -stop was number one
last week. This week, not really a huge surprise,
we had 300 Rise of an Empire take the top spot
beating out Mr. Peabody and Sherman by about
13 million or so. So 300 Rise of an Empire is
halfway to its $110 million budget. Good start
for that and then rounding up your top five was
non -stop at number three, the Lego movie at
number four, and Son of God has dropped to number
five. Really not too big of a surprise there.
We did see an Oscar boost for some of those best
picture nominations like 12 Years a Slave, Gravity,
Dallas Buyers Club. They all had a spike. Once
again, probably one of the last spikes they'll
have in the box office. And then the biggest
drops were Son of God, Pompeii, which Drop 63%.
It's only made 21 million against 100 million
budget. So you can chalk that up to the flop
category for 2014. RoboCop also is only about
halfway to its budget and it's about dead. So
a lot of flops so far in 2014. And the other
new film that hit theaters just in limited release
was The Grand Budapest Hotel, which I will be
seeing eventually, but it was only in four theaters
this weekend. So it really wasn't a competitor.
I don't know how much you guys are into box office.
I'm guessing probably not as much as Dan and
I. It's more interesting just hearing you talk
about it than going and looking up. It's one
of those things where it's like I'm interested
that I'd love to hear it. I just have never spent
the time to go and do it. How do you feel about
RoboCop being a flop? I want to see it. I had
a lot of knee -jerk reactions when I saw the
original promo pictures. I didn't even know it
was out yet because I'm behind, like I said.
But yeah, I'm interested. Nate, you'll probably
be interested too. Frozen, which brought in another
3 million this week, is creeping ever so close
to the 400 million milestone. It's at 393. That's
good. And that's domestic. Well we talked about
when we were talking about with 2014 and in order
to make like to be one of the top 10 grossing
films of the year usually you have to break like
the 200 million mark that's kind of like the
milestone to break into that top 10 and so frozen
is almost about to break into the 400 which let
me pull up the all -time box office real quick
for domestic because I believe it is now in the
top 20 yeah just it just got to the 19th spot
So it has about 9 million more before it will
pass Transformers Revenge of the Fallen for 18th
all time domestic gross. Really? Transformers?
Alright. Yeah, Transformers makes a lot of money.
That's why we're getting another one. Hey, just
so the viewers know, to kind of get a feel for
what I like, last year my top two movies, because
that's all I can really remember, is number one
was Frozen, number two was Pacific Rim. So, you
know, those are not bad choices. Those are the
types of movies I like. I've not seen Pacific
Rim and that bothers me on a whole level. That
bothers me as well. Oh my gosh, Matt, you got
to come over. We got to watch that. I got a Blu
-ray. Okay, and what we also do is we usually
update the year. Obviously, it's not as interesting
right now because the year is fairly new, but
yearly so far, the top spot is The Lego Movie
with $224 million, followed by Rock. Yeah, followed
by Ride Along, The Monuments Men, The Nut Job,
and RoboCop right now is in that fifth spot,
but it will not be, I don't think, very much
longer. So that's what your top five is so far
2014. And then looking slightly ahead, I don't
know if there's anything that's really going
to be competing this week. We have a couple things
that are coming out. I guess the biggest thing
that might displace 300 would be Need for Speed,
which comes out on an early Thursday release,
I believe. So we'll have to see if Need for Speed
can take over that top spot from 300 or how it
will fare next week. Any other thoughts before
we move on about the box office? Go ahead, Matt.
I said no. Okay. Don't know I can't see why that
what the appeal for new need for speed is it's
it's just another fast and the furious I don't
get it. That is my thought the actors are alive
for this one. Oh Come on that does help you that
and there are people like There are people like
are one of my podcasting guys They're the one
of the founders of the network TFG one Mike who
is dying for need for speed because he is retarded
I'm just kidding Mike But he likes Fast and Furious
franchise, and he's super excited for Need for
Speed. So maybe some people will want to go see
that. I won't be one of them. They can fly cars
around. Just make flying car movies. Just make
Back in the Future 2 again. I don't want a live
action Jetsons. I'm throwing that out there now.
I want a cartoon Jetson. Or do I? Oh, and Nate,
I should point out we don't have any viewers.
We only have listeners. That's what, did I say
viewers? Dang it! I screwed up the whole podcast
already! I do that a lot of times when people
feel the need to point it out. So I was like,
yay, I can point it out to somebody else. All
right. Getting into a few of the news and headlines
for the week before we get to the main attraction.
Not a huge week as far as news goes. Pretty light,
except for the amount of trailers. There was
a lot of trailers that came out. But as far as
headlines, I didn't even realize that this actress
was not doing movies currently, so I just felt
it interesting to bring it up just to see maybe
somebody else was aware that she had been taking
the last four years off. Apparently, Renee Zellweger
is about to do a new movie and she hasn't done
a movie in four years. Did anybody realize that?
No. I didn't realize it, but I like her, so I'm
glad. A lot of people probably know her from
Jerry Maguire, Bridget Jones Diary, etc. Oscar
for Cold Mountain, and then she kind of disappeared
for, I guess, four years. So she's coming back
in a courtroom drama thriller of some sort. So
we'll see how that goes. But yeah, I did not
know she was out of action for four years. And
kind of on the flip side, I don't have this link
in the website post that will be made. Chris
Evans, I don't know if you guys heard about this,
but apparently as soon as his, uh, we're talking
about Captain America there, as soon as his contract
expires with Marvel, apparently he is no longer
pursuing acting gigs. At all? He's done. He made
the best movie he could make. He said once his
Marvel contract goes, he's not interested in
acting anymore. He's going to try to do some
directing and behind the scenes stuff. Ah, lame.
I was hoping he was like gonna, he's like, I
want to go open up a deli or something weird.
So, enter Renee Zellweger, exit Chris Evans,
I guess. I'm actually depressed about that. Like,
of all of the Marvel movies that created the
Avengers, the Captain America one was my favorite.
Really? Yeah. It was solid. I liked it. This
is an ongoing discussion. It comes up in the
network all the time about everyone's different
opinions about the Marvel Universe and which
films are good and which films are bad. What
is your favorite of the Marvel films that have
already been released? Of all of them? Well,
outside of The Avengers. The components that
made up The Avengers. I really liked Iron Man
3. Iron Man 3 was really good, but I don't know,
maybe I just like the Captain America character,
so I'm like biased, I guess. I almost want to
say The Hulk with Edward Norton, even though
I'm not sure if that counts because they got
a new actor. But I don't think that's the best.
I just think that was the best Hulk movie that
could ever be made. And it was like, wow, you
did it. You made an OK Hulk movie. Yeah, it's
not even that great. It's just OK. It's above
average. I mean, you couldn't do better. I mean,
they casted Tim Roth. So, you know. Oh, I love
Tim Roth. Me too. Alright, in the next headline
we have apparently Noah, the film from Darren
Aronofsky starring Russell Crowe is already coming
up against some criticism from the Middle East.
It's been banned in Qatar, Bahrain, and the United
Arab Emirates and it's saying that Egypt, Jordan,
and Kuwait might be following suit. So, apparently
Noah will not be making as much international
money as it may be hoped for, and it's going
to have to rely a lot on the domestic gross.
I think it will do well domestically. Yeah, have
you guys seen, have either of you seen the trailer
for Noah? It looks awesome. I'm not going to
lie, until you sent me the thing, I did not know
that there was going to be a Noah movie. Yes,
we had Son of God and now we're gonna get Noah
and then later on we're gonna get Christian Bale
as Moses in a film called Exodus. Wasn't Son
of God just a repurposed documentary or something?
No, there was the miniseries that aired, I don't
know what channel it aired on, called The Bible.
It aired this past fall slash winter and apparently
it's a continuation or it's in connection with
that but i didn't see any of that so i really
am kind of ignorant to the to the topic i just
know it seemed bizarre because they're trying
to cover all of the life of jesus in one film
and that seems to be well i mean they've done
that before i've seen multiple movies about the
life of christ like all of it too because they're
doing way too much in one film like at least
this one we're just focusing on one event with
noah or one event with uh... exodus The the scale
of this film as far as like just being an epic
like Type of blockbuster seems to be all there.
I mean, you know, it's Russell Crowe doing his
gladiator type thing And that can be fun and
it's got a who else got Anthony Hopkins Jennifer
Connolly, I'm Watson So yeah, it's always interesting
to see how the biblical based films or stories
do overseas, it's usually... I mean, what was
the one that did Fantastic? Passion of the Christ
obviously did Fantastic just about everywhere,
but there's always going to be some backlash
from different religious -centered countries.
We'll see. We'll see how NOAA does. It's a big
question mark that we have as far as what NOAA
and what Exodus will do if they'll be flops or
if they'll live up to their, I'm assuming, slightly
large budgets. And the other headline we have,
apparently, there is talks of a remake for West
Side Story. I'm into this idea. Oh, absolutely.
I will watch five different retakes of West Side
Story back to back for a whole day. For those
of you that don't know, the original film was
a 60s film, made in 1961, had ten Academy Awards,
including Best Picture and Best Director. So
that's kind of a big bill to live up to. But
Fox has secured the rights, and the person that
they are attaching to the rumors about this film
is none other than Steven Spielberg. That sounds
awesome. So he's not... Spielberg's never made
a musical. No. That sounds awesome. It's risky.
It's risky, but hey, maybe he wants to do something
he's never done before, and it's... Seems to
be a time where a lot of musicals are doing pretty
well and done pretty well. You know, we've had
Chicago, we've had Les Mis, we've had quite a
different variety of, you know, even going back
to like Moulin Rouge, so maybe West Side Story
could be something he could pull off. Dude, I
haven't seen the 60 film. Oh, it's so good. You
haven't seen it? No, I haven't seen the 1961
film. Dude, we gotta, I don't think I own it,
but we gotta watch that. We've got to add it
to our stack. The ever -growing stack on my coffee
table. But we knocked a few out this week, so
there's room for other ones to take their place.
So interesting to see what people's reaction,
if there's going to be a lot of people interested
in a new West Side story, or if that's something
that people don't really care about. We'll see.
And we always seem to find at least one or two
sequels or remakes to talk about. And this one
is another sequel. in the form of human centipede.
Talking about the third one. Apparently, according
to the director, it's going to be less gross
than the first two. Which, if you take the grossness
out, doesn't that lose the whole point? That
is the whole point of the movie. I thought that
was the whole point. Matt, did we ever watch
the first human centipede? No, I don't think
it was out by the time all of our things had
ended. But I've never seen any of the human centipedes.
I probably never will. I don't like horror or
gross. But I've had the first one begrudgingly
explained to me at work. I told him to stop many
times. He kept doing it. And yeah, it's not going
to be hard to be less gross. I have the exact
same experience. It's not something that I don't
go for that type of stuff, so I usually don't
watch it. But I also had it explained to me,
not at work, but I think at a friend's house
or something, somebody explained it to me. I'm
saying it's going to be less gross, but more
controversial as far as political -wise. They
got Obama doing it now! And it's apparently set
in an American maximum security prison in the
middle of the desert. Oh, so it's like the Abu
Ghraib centipede. We'll see. So people that like
the first or the second human centipede, I guess
they'll be excited for a number. They'll probably
be mad about it. They'll probably be like, what
is this? They tone down the violence. They're
spelling it out. They're making us nervous. Nearly
gross enough. I need to see more ass to mouth.
Anyway, as far as casting call, we only had one
bit of news there this week, and it has to do
with a voice casting part. I don't know if you
guys are aware of this, but Jon Favreau is doing
a live action Jungle Book adaptation. It's had
a lot of different names attached to it, but
this is the first time that we've heard that
there's going to be voices to some of the animals,
and Idris Elba is apparently signed on to do
the voice of Sheer Khan. First of all, just in
general, would you guys be interested in a live
action Jungle Book or a Jon Favreau live action
Jungle Book, or do you think this has been done
enough before? I've not seen any of the Jungle
Books, any version of it, but I like that actor.
So I'm interested for that much. I'm interested
to see what Jon Favreau does with it. Obviously,
you know, he's had a lot of success in the comic
book movie genre. So it'd be interesting to see
how he takes on a classic like that. Yeah, I
mean, you can make a good movie about anything
and, you know, talking animals is what I like
usually. I want to get a dancing bear, though.
That's what I remember of the Jungle Book is
there's a dancing bear. You got to get a good
blue. Yeah. And apparently it's going to be obviously
a combination of live action and CGI. So we will
see how that goes and then what else. They have
actual talking animals. They're actual talking
animals. And we'll see what other casting rumors
come about as we hear more about the Jungle Book
and as it shapes up a little bit. As far as our
trailer talk, where there wasn't a lot of news
this week, there was a whole lot of trailers
released and we'll have links to all of them
on the website post. So you can view all of them
there and comment on them. Nate, was there any
trailers there that caught your eye or that you
thought were interesting? Annie. Annie? We talked
about this a long time ago, Dan and I, when it
first got rumored that there was going to be
a sequel of Annie. And then it listed all the
cast members. And it's one of the people behind
it, Will Smith. And somebody else is the main
one heading up this whole venture. What about
it caught your eye there? It's a remake of Annie.
I didn't know they were doing that and I saw
the list and I was like Annie what? So I clicked
it and then I was pleasantly surprised I Don't
know if I am as excited about that one It looks
it looks bad. Okay, like seriously It looks like
a bad version of Annie, but it looks like it
came out in 1997 like that's the type of film
that they came out with Dating all 1997 movies
as bad remakes of classic. No, it's just like
that's the type of like kids Movies that came
out in the 90s like they were just so ridiculous.
It's like Matilda. Yeah. Oh, no Matilda's amazing
This any this any looks good like if it here's
the thing I feel like if they didn't tag Annie's
name to it they just called it whatever I'd have
been like Like that's a little bit like Annie,
but not quite and I think that's a problem But
it's like, that's like that thing, but not quite
what it's supposed to be taking the name. It
looks like it's a solid movie. It's probably
enjoyable family film. Um, but they're changing
everything. Like what? Oh, well, yeah, I guess
they are changing the story pretty much. Yeah.
I'm sure it'll be like a hip hop version of those
songs. No, maybe. I mean, Hard Knock Life was
kind of hip hoppy anyway. They had a couple more,
you know. Didn't Jay -Z do a Hard Knock Life
song? Uh, yeah. I think that that's right. That
sounds accurate. Robbie would know. He's not
here. That doesn't help us. Nate, any other ones?
Did you see the second Dunbox Troll trailer?
No, I actually did not. I assumed it was the
one I've already seen, so I didn't click on it.
I've seen two of them. One of them was showing
the making of. Is that the second one? No, the
second one is just a song, and it just follows
them around, like some of the footage from the
film, basically. None of the trailers have...
revealed too much about the actual story. But
as far as a visual thing, it does give you a
pretty good idea of what it's going to look like.
Yeah, I go just for the visuals on that movie.
Every time I see them, I want to start patting
my chest, and I haven't even seen the movie,
so it's already infectious enough. I can't wait
to see the real thing. Yeah, it should be good.
What else did you see there, Nate? Well, I had
to watch the Transformers. Marky Mark and the
Transformers. They keep inching away from just
the shards of metal and stuff smashed together.
The fucking problem with Marky Mark. Dino bots
and big dinosaur type pterodactyls and things
like that Optimus prime has a sword on his back.
That's what that looks cool. But like I don't
know We'll see it'll make a lot of money. Yeah,
maybe maybe by transformers 10 They'll have one
that's you know, good for classic transformers
fans Yeah, you have they progressively get like
more colorful and back lightly slightly closer
to the originals every time but seriously though,
um Never mind. I forgot what even if they would
have just I don't know they could have gone even
with the designs from like the video games I
would have been oh, yeah, the games are good
video games were solid. I liked those Yeah, well
the first one look I don't know if either of
you guys saw the the trailer for Legends of Oz
Dorothy. Oh, yeah turn. Yeah, I uh, okay yard
sale. It's pretty cool on that one I got to bring
that up because that movie has was supposed to
be released in 2012 Oh, no. And then it was supposed
to be released in 2013. Yeah. And now it's actually
finally going to be released. And I remember
the reason I knew about it back in 2012 was because
of the voice cast attached to this. It's just
ridiculous. Kelsey Grammer, Akroyd, Belushi,
Patrick Stewart. Oh, that's a good one. Martin
Short. Yes, Martin Short. I mean, so I had like
this ridiculous voice cast. Yeah. And it looks
a little different than the first art that was
released and the first pictures. It looks a little
more, I don't know, kiddy or almost more juvenile.
Yeah, it's stylized. It does look like more of
a child's film as opposed to like the Pixar films
which are more sophisticated in the animation,
I guess the word would be. Yeah. And I'm just
worried that I'm hoping that they were just delaying
it to try to line up with the whole whatever
it is. And I think it's like the 75th anniversary
of Wizard of Oz this year. So hopefully that
was more the reason than just like problems with
it. I don't know. I can't see. I honestly can't
see a studio delaying a movie for any reason
other than shit's going wrong because they're
losing money as they're delaying it. Yeah. Well,
I mean, sometimes there is and we've talked about
a lot, Dan and I, on this podcast. There is a...
kind of a chess game that goes on with the different
studios as far as their release dates. Sometimes
delays are strategic. They try to not go against
certain things or come out at certain times of
the year. There's always a domino effect. When
the next Star Wars film was slated for next December,
all of a sudden you saw films being delayed and
pushed back and moved earlier. Get out of the
way. We do not want to compete with that. So
sometimes there is other reasons for delays,
but this one just seems to be like probably a
bad delay. I don't know. Matt, any trailers that
you saw that looked interesting? I don't know.
I watched the Sin City. I didn't know there was
going to do a Sin City. And I'm not 100 % sure
where it falls in with the other movie. It's
been nearly a decade since the previous Sin City
came out. And Marv is in the trailer, although
I'm pretty sure he died in the first one. That
was kind of the whole point, right? I don't know
where it falls in, but I'm interested. It has
most of the cast, right? It has Jessica Alba.
It has Mickey Rourke reprising the role. Bruce
Willis. Bruce Willis is back. What? Yeah. Have
you seen the first one? He killed himself. So
I don't know where this one falls in. Spoilers!
Apparently we need to see the first one again.
Yeah, I don't remember that happening, but yeah.
I'm totally down for re -watching Sin City. It
was a great move. What? What? You don't remember?
Well, never mind. Fine. It's not the best. Did
either of you see the trailer for Frank? Nate
mentioned it. Yeah, that looks weird. What's
going on there? Michael Fassbender has a big
fake head over his head. He reminds me of the
Davey and Goliath character. Oh my goodness,
yes he does. Oh jeez. That is a good call right
there. Is he the one with the head thing? What's
that? Is he the only one with the weird head
or is everyone guessing? Yeah. No, it's just
him. He's wearing this big giant head and then
he describes what his facial expressions are
and stuff. I don't know. I'm gonna be watching
that later. Anything else that any of you guys
wanted to bring up before we talk about the main
movies today? Me either. Alright, so if you are
interested in the trailer for Jupiter Ascending
or a few other ones that we did in the double,
The Grace of Monaco, Lock, you can check those
out at the website and give us your comments
on that. And we will move on to our main attraction,
which, you know, usually in the past we've talked
about one recent film that Dan and I have both
seen. We're going to change it up a little bit
as you probably realize we didn't do the What
We're Watching segment at the beginning. So we're
going to kind of combine those into one segment
from here on out, where we just talk about all
the different films that we've seen over the
week in the main attraction. There might be films
that were released in the theater recently. They
might be just films that we caught, that two
of us watched together, or one of us watched,
or whatever. So I'm going to change it up a little
bit. And the first film we're going to talk about
today, which we already started talking a little
bit about in person, so we'll have to rehash
some of that. But Nathan and I watched. the first
Superman recently and I know Matt you and Robbie
who we mentioned before had recently gone through
all the Supermans. How long ago? Within the last
six weeks we watched Superman 1 through 4 and
Superman Returns. So we all have recently seen
the first original Superman there so we're going
to talk a little bit about that. I don't know
who wants to start with their thoughts on that
film and for those people that have never listened
before when we talk about the films that are
out in theaters we will keep those spoilers.
uh... spoiler -free as much as possible for some
of the older films were not quite as strict on
that because most likely people have seen that
so spoilers happen to be mentioned that is fine
with these older films so who wants to uh...
go first on superman and their thoughts you go
Matt uh... i got a lot of thoughts i loved it
um... it's great i think having watched all four
of the supermans and uh... superman returns and
man of steel i can say without any doubts that
uh... chris Christopher Reeves is the greatest
Superman of all time. I think he does Superman
well and I think he does Clark Kent even better.
I think a lot of films really don't focus on
Clark Kent enough and how he's a different guy
entirely than Superman and I love how well Christopher
Reeves portrays that. you know, the Spider -Man
films, but I think you bring up a good point
where there's more of a difference between Superman
and Clark Kent than there is even between, you
know, like Spider -Man and some of these other
people and their alter egos, etc. Yeah, yeah,
like Iron Man is the same guy regardless of whether
he's wearing a suit or not. Yeah. Right. But
yeah. What was your favorite scene in Superman
1? Well, see, I liked the... I want to say the
part where Lois Lane thinks she's saving Clark
Kent but he grabs the bullet and like looks at
the camera with a little smile like I know I'm
Superman. Like that moment really just solidified
that movie to me. What about you Nate? What's
your favorite scene from the film? I like the
scene where he jumps out the window and magically
turned into Superman. That was not one of the
higher points of that film. No seriously because
like... He's always changing clothes, and they
did a little bit where he can't find the phone
booth. He finds the half phone booth. Yeah, and
he's like, ah, you can't do that there. But no,
they just gave up. Halfway through the movie.
They're like I jumped out of the window and he
starts lying and then he goes from like a suit
to Superman clothes immediately like that Yeah,
cuz they did the turnstile some other things
and then that one it was just like oh he has
changed Spoilers that's pretty much how it goes
from there on they don't really Clothes just
fade away Superman like after that one My favorite
scene in the film which I told you guys a little
bit off -air is the scene where Lois Lane is
interviewing Claire, or interviewing Superman,
excuse me, on the rooftop or whatever that was,
balcony, et cetera. And I thought it was just
really good from both of them. I think it sets
up both of their characters and their relationship
a lot. And I thought it was the best time in
the whole film where Christopher Reeve was really
showing the Superman side of things. and showing
his like charisma and showing just his whole
personality is how he was answering and not answering
questions. I thought that whole scene was done
really well. And then they followed that up immediately
with my least favorite scene in the film, which
is the two of them. Yeah, they both go on the
magic carpet ride, at which case at one point
during it Superman decides to just drop on his
leg. He thinks that's pretty funny. And then
she does too, she's like, oh, you got me. You
got me again, Superman. Are you kidding me? Like
she was just free falling through the sky at
a very fast rate, plunging to her death. And
he's just like, oh, that's funny. There was a
lot of bad dialogue in that scene. But it was
interesting that they back those two scenes up
against each other. Yeah. You said that Christopher
Reeve is your favorite Superman. Nate, have you
seen enough to know who your favorite Superman
actor is? I know it's not this new guy from Man
of Steel. He's a little wooden. My favorite Superman
guy is the guy who played Superman directly before
Christopher Reeve in this movie who got no mention.
Oh my gosh, yes, yes. For those of you who haven't
seen Superman 1. You need to go back and rewatch
it because a lot of times in film history you'll
have a character that grows over the course of
a movie. I think Nate and I talked about like
Simba even from The Lion King, like during the
Hakuna Matata song, you know, goes from young
Simba to adult Simba. You see that a lot in films.
What they did in this film is they took a 20
year old Superman and a whole different actor
for him and then they transitioned into Christopher
Reeve playing the same character like two years
later yeah it was like it was like he could have
just carried on the entire movie the this uh...
this no -name actor there was no need for a switch
in actors but I'm glad that they did because
Christopher Reeve is better I actually I remember
watching that and I turned to Robbie and I was
like is that Christopher Reeve am I just bad?
like I thought he looked different well see I
was confused because okay Nathan and I had this
big conversation because unless we completely
missed it at the beginning of the movie they're
putting actors names on the screen like they
did in a lot more in older films than they do
in and newer films and you know they put uh...
uh... what gene hackman's name up there uh...
and who else they they put a bunch of those names
out there and who the devil the famous games
oh no no no marlon brando yet right marlon brando
gene hackman and they kept putting names up there
and i think that's where they never put his previous
name up there and that were like that Okay, he's
gonna be one of those people that they do at
the end where it's like and featuring or and
introducing and and they didn't do that either
And then we have this kid playing what I thought
was the adult version of Superman. I'm like wait
a second Christopher Reeve is in this movie,
right? Like I'm pretty sure that's how it's built
So there was just a weird transition between
those two actors. I thought What about your guys
thought on on Lex Luthor in that film? He's a
silly version of Lex Luthor. I'll tell you that
Um, I see, I don't know, I've got, with comic,
my big comic book background, I have, like, interesting
theories on Lex Luthor. Because this one, he's
just evil. Like, that's the important thing,
is he's evil. And, uh, and I think he takes a
very interesting slant on, uh, Lex Luthor. I
don't think he's bad, I think he's great. Um,
I don't think Gene Hackman might have been the
best choice. I think the Lex Luthor lines and
roles were done well. But Gene Hackman would
not be my first choice. Then or now. Yeah, it's
like a weird casting choice. He almost reminded
me of... Matt, have you seen the spirit? Have
I showed you the spirit? I saw spirit in theaters,
actually. Oh, good. He almost reminded me of
the octopus with his silly henchmen. Yeah. He
just had a woman around him for some reason.
Tess Mocker. Mrs. Tess Mocker. Yeah. I actually,
fingers crossed and praying that they bring Tess
Mocker back in the next one. I thought she was
annoying. I thought she was a comic release that
might not have been necessary, but I kind of
hope she makes it a reappearance. I don't know.
I just like the name, I guess. That's a fun name.
Nate, what other thoughts do you have on the
first Superman? I don't know, I enjoyed it. It
was definitely an entertaining movie, but it
just had some weird stuff for me, I guess. It
had a lot of good things and then some weird
things, but it's a product of its time. Yeah,
definitely. They were making a movie for kids,
Superman. And that sort of mentality of making
a movie for kids is how they should approach
making a Superman movie nowadays. Because, you
know, Superman is for kids. I don't understand
why he's got to be all sad and... Great, because
of the Dark Knight. Yeah, because the Dark Knight
made a lot of fun of you. I did have a... I remember
us talking about it during the film, too, about
the... the Kryptonite. Oh, yeah, yeah! He's just
like, hey, I got this rock from Krypton. It's
gonna hurt Superman. Why is that why is that
like I find it an encyclopedia or something to
it like he brings out a news article like like
there were there like I don't know just like
30 years ago there was a Another thing that I
guess going backwards when Superman tells Lois
Lane Like that interview they have which I love
you know like it's Kevin's favorite scene. It's
I one of my favorite scenes Because it has a
different slide. I don't I don't think of Superman
making sexual innuendos like he does in that,
but he totally can and would. Why wouldn't he?
He's Superman. But he tells her his weaknesses,
like, I can't see through lead, and then Lex
Luthor reads the paper and uses that against
him. Well, and I think also that's kind of like
his character. He's a bit naive. Yeah, totally.
He's like, oh, well, no one's actually going
to be mean to me. Why would they be mean? I'm
Superman. I'm Superman. I'm doing good. There
was just a couple times during that film where
they just assume we know everything about Superman,
so everybody in the film must also know the things
about Superman. Like, even Lois Lane, earlier
than she should have, knew about Superman's powers.
Like, she asks him about his X -ray vision. Oh,
yeah. I'm like, well, she hasn't seen him use
it. How does she know he has it? There was a
couple couple times like that like like you said
with the the kryptonite like I don't know how
he knows that's gonna hurt Superman but we'll
go with it because it's a superhero movie and
Sometimes you gotta just go with things Um, but
yeah, I was I was questioning how she knew about
the x -ray vision before he had displayed it
But it led to a good sexual innuendo. So there
you go Matt what else do you want to talk about
with Superman? Anything that you didn't like
about it? Well, so I hadn't I've seen the old
Superman movies. I'd always heard about them.
And there were a few elements of that one that
I didn't know that he did the rewind time in
the first movie. That was so surprising to me.
I thought that was a later movie. It's kind of
a cheesy thing. When you're watching two, three,
and four, you're just going, why didn't he just
rewind time? He could win. Oh, I forgot about
the rewinding time thing. That's the whole end
of it. Yeah, and he even the thing is is like
he didn't even rewind time to like not have the
the nuclear blast go off He just around time
to not let her die Yeah, that said I didn't know
the rewind time thing was gonna happen. So when
Lois Lane is like falling into that pit I'm like,
they're not gonna kill Lois Lane and I kept saying
that in my head over and over I went they killed
Lois Lane and then you're on time and I was like,
oh that's That's a thing that happened. And they
do that, actually. I've never seen him do that
in the comics. I've read a lot of comics. I've
never seen Superman Rewind Time like that. But
in every movie, they add one weird power that's
like, Superman doesn't have that in each one.
But he never uses it in any of the other ones.
The fun of Hollywood. Yeah. All right. Moving
on from Superman, switching it a little bit,
I don't know if you've seen this film or not,
Matt, I guess I'm assuming you have, but if not,
Nate and I can talk about it a little bit. We
also saw, we were re -watching another set of,
apparently there was four films that I did not
know about, and that is the Blade franchise.
Nathan and I watched the first Blade a couple
nights ago. Matt, have you seen the first Blade?
I have not seen any of the Blades, and I wish
I have. Well, we will keep this spoiler free
then for the most part then. But Nate, what was
your take on the first play? Did you like it
or not? I thought it was okay. It's a pretty
standard 90s action movie. The one thing that
I was upset that I felt like was a missed opportunity
was that Wesley Snipes, his character, there
was like a slight bit of humanity in him that
kept showing through. Slightly, but not enough
like I wanted him to be a real character, but
he was just a standard action guy You know from
the 90s that could be swapped in and I love the
90s. I hate us. Oh I'm sorry I'm not saying like
Okay, I shouldn't say from the 90s I should just
say a standard action hero that can be swapped
out with any other you go back to the 80s or
the or even now you can you can make blade Jason
Statham and It would be weird because that's
a weird choice of blade But I mean he's not gonna
act any differently, you know Yeah, he almost
like was to me given that Dark Knight feel before
the Dark Knight like he was just that like dark
and brooding thing, but what they didn't do with
him as much, and this is, I'm not gonna say too
much about it, but I don't feel like they, outside
of the opening scene, gave him too much of an
actual backstory with development. Oh yeah, he
had no character development the whole time.
You get the initial scene and then you just kind
of jump ahead and there's really no talk about
what happens between those times. Again, with
an action superhero film, sometimes there's not
a lot of time for that, but I think you can still
fit it in somewhere. Yeah, I mean, it's been
proven that you can make a good movie. You can
make a good action movie, definitely. And I think
Wesley Snipes is a good choice for that character.
Oh, yeah. I mean, I just wish he played it a
little more with enthusiasm instead of with a
mean look on his face and not really saying anything
ever. Yeah. Maybe that just comes with being
a daywalker. But I thought the cast was good.
Chris Christopherson is good. Stephen Dorff is
good. Wesley Snipes is good. But yeah, I agree
with you in a way. It didn't have a whole lot
of stuff that separates it from the rest of its
genre. Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, we will move
on then to a film that I saw half of. Yay! And
this will give you a sense of what we talk about
when we're talking about crappy movie night.
I don't know how many people out there realize
it, but there was a sequel to Titanic. No, no,
it's not a sequel. It's not actually a sequel.
It was a sequel to the real life Titanic. Yes,
yes, that is how they're getting around the trademark.
Yeah. Well, I mean, it was a boat. It is titled
Titanic 2, right? Yep. Yes, but it's, well, Titanic
2, like, aye, aye, but it's like the Fantastic
Four, where that's the name of this thing that
the movie is about? Yeah. It's not Fantastic
One, Two, and Three. There was no Titanic One.
This is a new boat called the Zip. The boat was
actually called the Titanic Two. Yeah. It wasn't
like the Titanic again. Oh, oh, oh. All right.
So I want to explain the synopsis, though. Hold
on. I just want to tell people there will be
spoilers for this one. Yeah. We don't care. No,
because really you can't spoil this film. Writers
and directors and actors did it all. Yes, we
could tell you every moment of this film It's
not gonna spoil your experience that you would
have if you watch it Because you're not gonna
believe most of the stuff we say anyway So you
do need to see it for yourself And if anyone
out there thinks like the idea of having crappy
movie night is is intriguing. This is a great
one to start with Me it maybe Well, you guys
can give suggestions on other ones to start with
this is a great things to watch because this
is this is prototypical crappy movie material.
So Nate go ahead with the synopsis of Titanic
2. Okay so the synopsis of Titanic 2 is they
made a ship called Titanic 2 and then iceberg
catapults. There was a lot of threads that I
think they thought they were weaving that they
just weren't because it was like It's the 100th
anniversary of the original Titanic, and this
one guy who's like Bruce Wayne without a Batman,
he's just got too much money, doesn't know what
to do with it, he's always got ladies. He's like,
I'm just gonna make a new Titanic, why not? And
then like, wow, IMDB has it wrong for what it's
saying. Things go wrong. Yeah, because of global
warming, of course. It seems like every crappy
movie has to have that Like, global warming is
bad theme. It's so weird. Titanic 2 and Birdemic
are the only ones that come to my mind. Those
were the only two that came to my mind as well.
I did not realize that this film was released
in 2010. Oh, you didn't know that? I thought
this was way older than that. Just for a little
bit of background, the Asylum did this. They're
the same people that came out with Sharknado,
which has had a lot of recent fame. They've done
a lot of interesting movies. And this is not
one of them. No, this one is interesting enough.
I missed the part that DC Douglas was in this.
I did not realize that. Who's DC Douglas? He
played a character named Captain Will Howard.
And DC Douglas is a voice actor. He's done a
lot of anime stuff, a lot of video games, and
I did not realize he was in this film. Anyways,
continue. I'm looking at his picture right now,
and I don't remember when he was in this. He
was the captain that went down with the ship,
remember? He had the moment where the ship's
going down, and he's just staring out crying.
I commented then that it's probably because he
has to go down with Titanic 2, which everyone
knew was going to go down because it's the Titanic
2. He didn't even want to be where he was, but
the guy who owns the ship's like, keep driving
towards those icebergs, it'll be fine. It's the
voice of Albert Wesker from the Resident Evil
video games. Oh, no way. He's Wesker! Oh, God!
I love the critical reaction on Wikipedia for
Titanic 2. It just says, was panned by critics
and audience and is considered to be a very bad
and offensive rip -off. Yeah, they totally ripped
off the, like, Jack's dying scene. It says criticisms
were mostly focused on the film's plot, script,
and Shane Van Dyke's direction. I want ladies
around me in every scene. That's the direction.
The thing is that he actually had some character
development in that he was all like, I'm over
this chick, and now I've got all these other
girls. And then the Titanic's have to go down.
And he's all like, maybe I'm not over her. It
was always about chicks. It was. It was always
about chicks. Well, actually, because you remember
that one moment where it starts going down, and
his personal helicopter's like, hey, we got to
get out of here. And he's all like, no, load
up the injured three chicks that were with me.
They'll survive, and I'll go down with the Titanic.
Yeah. All right. So what are some of your favorite
moments from the film, guys? I like the iceberg
catapult as a concept. Because what was happening
was global warming was breaking down the icebergs
as it happened, or whatever. of iceberg would
fall off and create a wave and this is actually
how the movie opened with the guys surfing on
these chunks of iceberg making these waves but
then like a big chunk fell off and it pushed
made like a giant wave that pushed the other
you know 30 chunks and just made a catapult effect
for the heat with a giant wave and when it eventually
made it down to the titanic was like an iceberg
shotgun into the side of the titanic but it but
the iceberg was twice the size of the titanic
too It was ridiculous. It's not a visible thing
I'm supposed to notice that I didn't. Yeah, it
was like, it was huge. The only thing I remember
in relation was the clipart whale that they threw
in the ice. Oh, yeah. Yeah, someone in the effects
team just threw in a whale in a scene just for
no reason. It served no function and it was the
only time there was any marine life in the whole
movie. And it was so unbelievable that we had
to rewind it to make sure that there was actually
a whale in the scene. It was very brief. And
I say rewind because I'm pretending that we watched
this on VHS back in the 80s sometime. Oh DVD,
or you can rewind Netflix. I feel like you're
not rewinding so much, you're not really winding.
There's no binding, there's no tape. There's
a lack of winding going on. I didn't know the
Asylum also did a film called Snakes on a Train.
Oh yeah! I've seen that on Crappy Move Night.
We did that. That has the most awkward sex scene
I've ever seen in a movie. The cop essentially
rates a woman, but does it, like he's just like,
oh, there's snakes on this train. Take your top
off. You just need a room, though. The room?
What about the room? The awkward sex scenes in
the room? That's not nearly, that's not half
as awkward as the cop just like taking your top
off. Now jiggle a little bit. Take your pants
off. And then like a snake hits him in the throat
or something. I don't remember. It's been a few
years. But yeah, he's just like the best thing
to this chick and it's like he's the cop. He's
the only supposed good guy on this whole train
while snakes are going awry. And then that one's
ending is really bad. Yeah. Wait. They have two
films. I don't want to steal it. They have two
films coming out this year. One of them is called
Android Cop and the other is called Megashark
versus Mecha Shark. Here's the thing. That sums
up the asylum. perfectly. There's a few things
Asylum does. They make animal disaster style
movies and then they make, what do they call
them? Mockbusters. They take a plot that's gonna
be a blockbuster movie and then remake it. I
guess with what you've been saying Robocop might
not have been the best one to choose but they
probably start casting and shooting before anything
happens. I can't wait to see Android Cop though.
There's a bunch of these that I need to see though.
Nazis at the center of the earth. Netflix has
got that. Netflix has got most of them, so I
can't wait. We got to talk about the my favorite
scene from the film from the from the half that
I saw which is the hallway scene or corridor
scene. There is a scene in this film where at
this point it's Shane Van Dyke's character and
one of his girls. I don't know their names because
it wasn't important. Really what? And they were
trying to get to the room with the closet. I
don't remember what that room was called, like
the diving something room. Anyways, they're trying
to get to that room. And they have to go down
this corridor. And there is a random electrical
cable that has been fleeced and is causing all
kinds of sparks and whatnot. And the whole hallway
is full of water except for apparently the two
ends of the hallway. Because they're clearly
standing at the end of the hallway and not being
electrocuted. Just like a video game. So he has
to jump onto and grab the pipes that are going
where the ceiling would be and he has to basically
monkey bar his way across this watery hallway
so that he doesn't electrocute himself. And then
she has to follow. And they make this epic dramatic
type scene where she apparently can no longer
go across and he's already been across so now
he has to go back up there to try to help her
out and literally all that has happened is she
was like doing the one monkey bar and she didn't
get it on her first try where she didn't grab
the pole you know when you swing the first time
and apparently she couldn't swing a second time
so he had to jump up there and like literally
take her hand and put it back on the pole so
that she could go across. Is that a good retelling
of how that scene went? Yeah. It was completely
underwhelming what he actually did. But you know
that when he was actually shooting the scene,
he was like, make sure you get how good my arms
look doing this. Oh, god. Not to mention that
they originally tried to make it more dramatic
because when he was on there, they were acting
like it couldn't hold his weight and it was going
to possibly fall. And then their solution is
for both of them to be up there at the same time.
Putting all of their weight together and then
luckily they fall like a foot away from the court
and it doesn't kill them And then there's also
the scene when they are The water is coming up,
you know, we have our Leonardo DiCaprio scene
where we got it We got to decide which one of
us is gonna survive And then they forced themselves
to have the romantic kiss as they're drowning
Yeah, it was really for she was like I can't
believe admitting paid to do this But nothing
was better. This film is worth watching a hundred
percent for the ending. Definitely. Let's not
spoil it because it's on Netflix and anyone can
watch it. I don't remember what you're talking
about. Oh my goodness. What are you talking about?
It's possibly the best... Oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah,
yeah, yeah. The end with the rose moment. Yeah,
okay, I get you. It was it was painful to watch
This film ends like no other film I've ever seen
in my life better well I don't know if I want
to spoil this But one thing Titanic 2 does better
with their ending than Titanic the one number
one the good Titanic Is that I feel like it was
pretty clear like yeah? There's only one of us
can survive and I choose you like where's the
other one? It's like I feel like they both could
have fit on that door Whereas this one it's like
they can only fit and there's only one take of
air and one wetsuit So like yeah, one of you
is going to freeze and drown This one though
did something that I didn't think was gonna happen.
It made it a film called Titanic Where for a
second I was questioning how it was gonna end
So this is definitely a terrible movie that that
you should go watch people Just so you can see
what we're talking about with the ending You
don't even need to watch the rest of the film.
You're not missing anything. Turn it on. Fast
forward. Fast forward. We didn't even mention
Senator Kelly's in it. Oh, yeah. The biggest
actor in this movie is the guy who plays Senator
Kelly in the first X -Men movie. And he needs
Shane Van Dyke to be an honorable man. I remember
that being important. Oh, yeah. No, he's like,
if you don't save my daughter, Yeah, you don't
save people's lives, you're not honorable. There's
no other way to find that honor. Anything else
that you guys want to bring up about Titanic
2 and along the same lines, what movie should
people start with if they want to do a crappy
movie night? Well, Nate mentioned Guy with Seeker
Kung Fu, which if you can get a copy of is the
one that really solidified it for me. I started
with Electric Boogaloo. I watched a couple of
80s movies that were actually just, you know,
regular 80s movies that we had heard about or
whatever, like Adventures of 80s Sitting and
Breaking Two, that weren't actually bad, but
they were dated for sure. Yeah. I don't know,
I want to say The Blood Rain just because if
you watch all three of them, like, just because
that's where I started, the first one, like,
her main villain is the main villain of the video.
hundred years before the video game, so it doesn't
even make sense in that respect. She gains powers
and stuff that she doesn't have in the game,
so they just threw out the whole thing. It's
Uwe Boll. That's what he does. He just takes
a concept and just goes, well, I'm going to ignore
most of the things that are abyss. But the second
one is what really gets me, because you can't
watch second without the first one, ever. And
the second one is where Billy the Kid, the old
Wild West Billy the Kid, is not young. He's called
Billy the Kid because he's a child molester.
He's the main villain, and he's a vampire. He's
a vampire. I don't know how he does gunfights
at high noon. So we wait until he's gotten to
the point where he's ignoring the video game
and history. So he makes this Billy the Kid who's
a vampire, can't be out in the sun, and then
molests children. And that is where you should
start, people. I don't know. Any Fred Williamson
movie from the 70s? Yeah. He's fun. Yeah, like
Warriors of the Wasteland. Whoa. Yeah. That one's
actually not that hard to find. You can look
it up on YouTube. Get the full movie on YouTube.
Really? Yep. So the thing you do, people, is
you get a group of your friends together that
can all... just have fun, you get a bunch of
some pop, caffeine, candy, Taco Bell, whatever,
and you just watch these movies and have fun
with them, and it's a good exercise for not,
I think it allows you to watch anything. It will
train you to give anything a shot and to not
look at things in a closed -minded outlook. How
many times would you say have there been films
that you have stopped before they've gotten all
the way through? I actually made a point to never
stop a film during crappy movie night. I know
I've had people walk out Yeah, actually blood
rain too Nate and Megan left Megan was done with
it. So she left Nate took her home Grave we do
I don't think everyone finished that one Yeah,
there was another one so you have to set your
own rules either can never stop it or maybe you
can have certain films that you... if they're
so bad you have to stop. I personally don't believe
in that concept although there was a few of them.
We stopped after Crabby Moon had ended years
later when we were watching that one like the
police have to hire a kung fu master to save
the world. We stopped that one. That was pretty
bad. I probably could have stopped the... maybe
not. What was the mole man? Mole man? Oh Hercules.
Hercules versus the Mole Men? Yeah. That was
pretty bad, but we still watched it off. That's
not the one where he throws a horse into the
sky and it becomes a constellation, is it? No,
that's the one where the Mole Men are like not
really anything except for people that had, what
did they have, like, masks on or something, and
they were turning that big wheel, there's Hercules,
and then the big strong... Oh, wait! Well, Matt,
I don't think you were there for that one. I've
not seen this movie. Yeah. Oh my goodness. It's
like Hercules, but they don't address anything
about Hercules. It's just a strong guy. Are you
sure it wasn't like a sequel to a previous Hercules
movie where they have a staff? I'm sure it was.
Yeah, it could have been. I'm sure it was. I'm
sure there was a whole series of these films.
This is like picking up Conan the Destroyer without
saying Conan the Barbarian, where it looks like
an original movie, but it's actually a sequel.
The weirdest part of that movie for me was he
saves this man. He saves a black man, right?
And the black man is just like, I will be your
slave. And it was just awkward and weird. And
I didn't like it. That was very tense. Maybe
that's not the best choice there. My favorite
part about that film is I went to my Letterboxd
account. And I obviously log all the movies I
see on there. It basically has a log of every
movie I've ever seen, for the most part, that
I can remember. And so I clicked that I had seen
that. And the other thing that that website does
is it tells you how many other people have seen
that film. I was one of two people that had logged
that film on the website as something I had seen.
And the other person, I think, gave it a half
a star or a one star. That was interesting. I've
never had a movie that I've logged on there that
has been seen by less than like a few thousand
people or whatever. It was two of us. That's
special. You're special for that. Well, until
you log it, then there's going to be three of
us and it's not going to be nearly as special.
I'm jealous that I'm not going to be part of
this club. You can join the club at some point.
It's on Nathan's, what's the name of that box
set? My box set? Of those films? Is it yours
or was it Robbie's? The like 100 action films?
Oh, like the Walmart $5, here's a bunch of them.
Those are great. And the other film that I saw
this week that is actually one that was in the
theater, and I will not spoil it at all, but
I just came back from 300, Rise of an Empire.
I will say that I probably, we sometimes talk
about 3D versus regular versus IMAX versus whatever,
and I'm usually of the opinion that it really
doesn't make that big a difference in how you
see the film. with some exceptions. This is one
I should have seen in 3D, but time -wise it didn't
work out to see it in 3D, so my friend and I
watched it in just the regular format, and it
makes it very obvious in the first 15 to 20 minutes
that you should have seen it in 3D, with a lot
of stuff flying at the screen. Oh God, I hate
it when that happens, when it's obviously made
in 3D. Nothing should obviously be made in 3D,
because then you're just distracted. You're not
watching the actual movie. Luckily, it's not
as prevalent throughout the rest of the film,
but definitely that first half hour, you're like,
I should be watching this in 3D. And then it
kind of went away a little bit. But I know it's
been getting ripped on, and everyone's saying
it's crappy as far as a lot of the reviews have
gone. I actually enjoyed the film. I didn't go
in with, you know... super high expectations
or super low expectations. I just went in to
see a film kind of like 300 film that I remember
from a long time ago, which I probably should
have watched beforehand, but not. It's not necessary
though. I mean, it's not like you forget the
plots or what actually happened. Are there any
recurring characters? Yes. Okay. Well, it's not
a sequel. It is what they I think what they termed
it was a side quill, or a side, I don't know
how, so it's basically, some of it's happening
at the same time as 300, so there's some crossover
in that respect. But yeah, it was good. The main
villain, I guess you could say, Artemisia, played
by Ava Green, who was in Casino Royale, and something
else that she was in. She was freaking ridiculously
badass in this film. She does a lot of fighting
and definitely has some like, I don't know, some
sexual chemistry tension with some characters.
But she's like the naval commander of the Persian
army and she is something to look at. There's
definitely a lot. It gives you what you want
from a 300 film, which is a lot of ridiculous
fighting and blood stuff and death and all kinds
of craziness like that. So if you go in with
just kind of a laid back approach, I think you'll
enjoy this. If you're going in like trying to
compare it to the first one or trying to pick
it apart, I'm sure you could find a bunch of
stuff that you could pick apart. But I don't
know. That's not necessary for me. When you go
see a movie, you can enjoy it for what it is.
Yeah, there's definitely something to like a
movie where you don't want like there's movies
where you can't help but pick apart movies, but
then other movies it's like you could but what's
the point? Just go and have some fun. I thought
it was also a good job by Sullivan Stapleton
who plays the main character Thomas Dockley's
and he's been in some other stuff, but I just
don't remember it. Like he was in Gangster Squad
and some other things. But I've never really
taken notice of him, and I thought he did a pretty
good job as the main hero in this film. So it
was cool. I thought it was enjoyable. I would
just recommend that if you go see it, probably
go see it in 3D. All right. You guys both saw
the first 300, right? Yeah, totally. What did
you guys think of the original film? Well, I
thought that the whole, at first, the punching
and the stabbing. At first that was really cool.
Like with the punching and the stabbing. Anytime
anything was moving, did that happen in this
one? At times. Who directed this? It was directed
by Noah Murrow. Wasn't the other one Zack Snyder?
He's the writer of the other one, I thought.
No. Yeah, he was the writer and producer of this
one. He wrote and directed the first one, he
wrote and produced this one. Oh, okay. Okay.
Anyway, so and it is it is based on the as yet
unreleased Frank Miller graphic novel called
Xerxes. They haven't even released it. It's Based
on these thing. I Don't that says as yet unreleased
graphic not thinking of timing releases I Think
they botched that one Probably should have done
that a little different. Yeah Yeah, listen as
unpublished right now so Yeah, I mean it's That's
interesting. But yeah, I thought it definitely
had a lot of the feel of the first one. If you
were bringing that up, it does have the slow
fast stuff and a lot of death scenes and stabbings
that were slowed down or shown where the blood's
coming out, et cetera. Which usually I'm not
big on that, but I don't mind it as much in the
way they do it, I guess. Because it's, to me,
so unrealistic, I guess, in a way that it's easier
to separate it. Yeah, and not be grossed out.
I guess did you like the original? I I loved
it, but having heard yours I was very I was very
hesitant about the new one and having heard what
you said I want to see the new one now. They
hope it's good Like I get like I could I could
probably go back and rewatch it and find every
little part that people are ripping it apart
for but Like Nathan said that you can do it without
doing that and just view it for what it is and
have fun with it. Yeah, so Kind of the same way
with the first movie I I'll watch it. It's a
fun movie. I mean It might be a little too angry
for me. I don't like angry people. I think that's
one thing Yeah, there's a lot of a lot about
vengeance and and you know trying I mean obviously
the main characters is Defending Greece and whatnot,
but there's a lot of there's a lot of sub vengeance
plots I guess going throughout this on multiple
angles. So there is that As far as coming attractions
go, some stuff to be looking for in the following
week here that's about to be Blu -ray releases.
There's a whole lot of Blu -ray releases coming
out on Tuesday, whether it be at your local store
or online. Some films that we've talked about
in previous MWR Weekly episodes, The Book Thief,
which I highly recommend to people is coming
out on Blu -ray. uh... some of the other ones
that we've talked about uh... inside lewin davis
uh... dan was huge on that uh... good film that's
coming out on tuesday out of the furnace uh...
is also coming out and uh... here's a great one
the hungover games what what is that i don't
know there's one on the list called the hungover
tonight i clicked on it right before he said
it out like what is that and i think from the
looks of it it's uh... the hangover and uh...
the hunger games done like uh... General vague
title movie. Oh No, yeah. Oh, they're doing another
one of those Yeah, that is still a thing like
I clicked on it and on the cover it has it's
got a Zach Galifianakis looking guy who actually
might be Zach Galifianakis He looks so well.
It's got a fake version of Ted. It's got a girl
with a bow and then in the back I see the Johnny
Depp Charlie and the Chocolate Factory because
that's still relevant Interesting. There's also
an extended edition of Cowboys and Aliens coming
out, apparently, for people that liked that film,
and Easy Money Hard to Kill as well. So there's
a whole lot of stuff coming. You're skipping
over the best one. Which one? Iron Sky Director's
Cut. Iron Sky Director's Cut, the comedy sci
-fi film, apparently, is also coming out on Tuesday.
Nazis on the moon! It's different than Nazis
on the Earth. And as far as theater releases
goes for this next coming week, as I said, Need
for Speed comes out Thursday night as well as
another Tyler Perry film, The Single Moms Club.
And then on Friday, you have a limited release
of Bad Words, the comedy there. Other than that,
I don't believe there was anything else except
for, I guess, a limited release of Veronica Mars
that has been getting some headlines. Nothing
else on that list is anything that we've talked
about before. Are you guys interested in anything
that's coming out on DVD or in theaters this
week? I didn't know there was in The Name of
the King 3, which is funny because we watched
in The Name of the King 1 at crappy movie night.
It's like the Dungeon Siege movie, the Z -Pop
video game, but I don't think this one doesn't
even mention Dungeon Siege on the cover. I didn't
know that there was anything to sequel twice.
There's never a need for reasoning of sequels.
They just do them. What's a himizu? I'm looking
up himizu right now. Himizu? Himizu. I don't
know how to say that. Oh, gosh. The film being
released in New York this weekend. I will not
be seeing Need for Speed, so I will bow out of
that one. I don't know if I'll see Bad Words
or not. I can't decide if that looks funny or
looks stupid. So yeah, it's not like a huge week
as far as films go. I'm hoping that Grand Budapest
Hotel gets a little bit more wide release here
in the next week or two, because I do want to
see that Wes Anderson film that I'm definitely
interested in. But other than that, there's not
a whole lot coming out this week to be super
excited about. Yeah, I mean, like me being a
pretty casual movie watcher, none of these look
interesting, really. Yeah, so save your money
because there's more stuff coming out in the
weeks to come that are much more interesting.
As far as the credit conversation that we usually
do, last week we had an episode that we talked
all about the Oscars and we did get a little
bit of feedback on the website. So I just wanted
to real quick mention a few of those commenters
and visitors. And let's start with, oh, let's
see, Jeremy. He had a bunch of comments and one
thing that we talked about a little bit on the
episode about the Oscars was if Ellen is a decent
host or who should be a host, etc. A lot of people
had mentioned stuff about Jim Carrey being a
future host. That's what caused Dan to make his
ill -advised statements that Jim Carrey's Ace
Ventura movies are not funny. That's just wrong
on multiple levels. There was a few people that
joined us in our talk about how it was weird,
how they did all the different hero montages
and it wasn't really clear what they were doing
with that. Another question that we asked last
week along with the Oscars for those people that
aren't Oscar fans is we asked for people's favorite
Harold Ramis film and that actually got the most
feedback and there was a lot of films that were
brought up, mostly Ghostbusters was brought up.
Stripes was brought up by a few people, Animal
House, Caddyshack, seeing if there's anything
else that people brought up as far as their favorite
Harold Ramis films. Ghostbusters are over and
over again by a lot of people. Those are some
of the films that were brought up by them and
if you want to see some of the other conversation
that was going on, just go to geekcastradio .com
and find the last episode of MY Weekly and you
can join in on the discussion and you can reply
to Dan and try to get him to explain himself
about Jim Carrey because that's just wrong. As
far as a question for today, I didn't really
have too much going as far as the 300. There's
not a lot of questions I wanted to ask about
that, but I was going to ask, going back to our
news stories, if people were interested in a
West Side Story remake and if they are interested
in Steven Spielberg taking on a musical for the
first time and if they think that he can pull
that off. So feel free to give us your opinion
on Steven Spielberg's possible involvement with
a West Side Story remake. And we'll comment on
your comments next week. As far as you guys,
usually at this point of the show we give people
a chance to interact with us, not just on the
website, but personally too. So how can people
interact with you, Nathan? Do you have a Twitter
or anything else, or a website, or how can people
get in touch with you? I mean, I'm not one for
social media. Dang, I don't even... I'll set
up a Twitter. We'll give you a way to get a hold
of Nate next week. Yeah, and actually I have
a question that if they want to answer this on
the website. Perfect. What's your favorite bad
movie? Since we're talking about bad movies.
Talking a lot about crappy movies. Yeah. What
movie do you love to hate so much? What movie
is so bad that you love it? Yeah. I imagine there's
going to be a lot of brooms. That was what brought
the whole bad idea thing to the mainstream, I
think. I have a Twitter, I just found out. You
can see me at at Crocker Comics. C -R -O -C -K
-E -R C -O -M -I -C -S at Crocker Comics. And
I have... I'm following four people and I have
five followers, apparently. I don't know where
these people came from, but I have them. And
you're about to have more. Matt, do you have
any Twitter or anything else? I do not. My Facebook
is even set to private. That's not me. My girlfriend
did that six years ago and I just haven't changed
it back because I'm not a social media guy. Now
that I'm actually doing something, I will set
up a Twitter that I will give away before the
next... I'm sorry. I tried to spread it out now,
but the name I wanted was taken. Well, we will
give you ways that you can interact with them
individually if you want to interact with us.
In the show in general, there are several ways
to do that. You can call the voicemail line 502
-526 -5821. You can email us. The address would
be feedback at GeekCastRadio .com. You can visit
the forums and the episode posts at GeekCastRadio
.com. We have a Facebook page. The Twitter there
is at GeekCastRadio. My Twitter would be at Optimus
Solo. and you can also go to iTunes and leave
us feedback in the iTunes location. I don't know,
we haven't checked in the last couple weeks,
so I will check that before next week and we'll
talk about any feedback that we've gotten on
iTunes. Anything else you guys want to say before
we close out the show, Nate? How was your first
experience? I was just about to say, keep on
wizarding! Keep on! Oh, I am a fan of podcasts.
I am too. No. I don't know. I got nothing. I
hope we didn't either bore or turn off a bunch
of people. For those people that are used to
Dan and I and the format we've had, hopefully
you're sticking with us. That's why you can leave
feedback. Tell us what you like, what you didn't
like. We'll adjust that as we go and there could
be some crazy other things down the pipeline
for the three of us as we get used to this podcasting
thing. And the bonus is that we all live in close
proximity so we can do some stuff that normally
we wouldn't be able to do here on the GeekCast
Radio network. Matt, how was your first podcasting
experience with us? I really enjoyed it and I'd
love to do it again anytime you want me. You'll
probably be seeing and hearing, well not seeing,
but you'll be hearing more of both of these guys
very soon. So that is it for us for this week
and remember for all things movies, keep tuned
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