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Twilight Smackdown. So stay tuned for MWIRE Weekly.

All right, welcome to another MWire Weekly and

with me once again this week filling in are Nathan,

hello. Hello. And Matt, hello. Good afternoon,

sir. Is it afternoon? It is. There are 12 hours

that are afternoon. I'm OK with it. All right.

Wait, never mind. I was going to say there's

like 23 hours. I don't know, technically it's

afternoon. Whatever. But as you guys know, Nathan

and Matt were both with me last week. They're

with me again, and they'll be with us for the

foreseeable future. And we enjoyed our record

last week, so we look forward to be doing it

again here. And we'll get to your feedback later

on. But we are working to make things better

and as good as we can, audio quality and all

that jazz. So Nathan, how have you been in the

last week? I've been pretty good. I don't know.

I updated my Twitter account, so that's awesome.

Yeah, you guys got updated Twitter stuff to talk

about later. Oh, yeah. And somehow Nathan has

seen more movies than any of us, I think, this

week. Oh my gosh, I'm the man. So we will get

more into that later, but as you guys know, we

usually start off with a little box office talk,

and it was an interesting weekend at the box

office looking at the new stuff that was out

there going against some old stuff, and I...

gotta say this is one of the most shocking weekends

of 2014 so far at the box office because if you

remember last week we had 300 rise of an empire

that was in first place pretty easily there and

then we had the need for speed movie coming out

this week we had other perry film which always

seems to do somewhat well we had non -stop out

there but the movie that takes the first place

spot this weekend is actually mr. pewodian sherman

which I don't think many people would have predicted.

I think most people would have either said 300

stayed there or Need for Speed took it. But somehow

Mr. Peabody and Sherman creeped up and then got

a little bit of money, which probably makes the

people at, I think that's a DreamWorks film.

Yeah, that's true. Somewhat happy because they've

been tanking with a lot of their films and Mr.

Peabody and Sherman still has a long way to go.

It's only a third of the way to its budget, or

not even a third of the way to its budget. Almost

I almost to the halfway point So it's it's doing

okay, but not as good as they were probably hoping

Were you guys surprised that 300 or need for

speed isn't number one? Yeah, totally like especially

because people I needed less than 300 last week,

right? Yeah That's weird Could it be that people

just don't care anymore about like? Crazy action

movies that are kind of boring. I don't know.

No, I don't I don't think that's ever gonna happen

I hope that doesn't happen. You know what's interesting?

I'm looking at the IMDB page for the Mr. Buddy,

Mr. Peabody and Sherman, and the first name that

I recognize, and this is a DreamWorks picture,

so normally it's like the first stars, like someone

you know, but the first guy is Stephen Colbert

and he's like 15 people down. Yeah. I like that

idea, though. I'd much rather have new guys coming

in, right? Yeah, definitely. It's definitely

not your typical DreamWorks film. Like the Croods,

it was like Nicolas Cage and then 500 other people.

Or like, yeah, Madagascar has all the big names

or Ice Age and stuff like that. So yeah, it's

a little bit of a different feel for DreamWorks,

but it's just weird for the second week for it

to come out. And I guess the need for speed slash

whatever, can I lump them in with the Fast and

Furious fans? They've got to be a little disappointed

that Need for Speed didn't even crack the first

or the second spot because our top five are Mr.

Peabody and Sherman followed by 300 again, then

Need for Speed, then Liam Neeson sticking in

at number four, and then Tyler Perry at five.

So Need for Speed not even in the top two. Just

missing out on the top spot, but missing out

on the top two films that have already been out

for a couple weeks. So I don't know what that

says for Need for Speed. and if it can compete

with the same type of stuff that Fast and Furious

does or what, but I'm sure Mike's upset that

Need for Speed didn't take the top spot. Have

you talked to Mike at all about it? No, thankfully.

Just kidding, Mike. Some weird things happening

this week also because usually... You don't see

a couple of things that we saw here, and that

is some random spikes as far as increases in

their gross. The nut job, which has been out

for nine weeks, just had almost a 50 % rise in

their money there. I know it's only a half a

million dollars, but still that's an odd spike

in the ninth week, especially when you have stuff

like Mr. Peabody and Sherman, the Lego movie,

Frozen, all still out there competing for that

same demographic. So that was kind of a weird

spike for Nutjob. Hunger Games had a pretty hefty

spike. Jack Ryan had a weird spike. So it's kind

of weird to see some of those randomly having

that increase there. Everything else is on the

decline except for Grand Budapest Hotel, which

is trickling into more and more theaters. So

now it's in the 66 theaters. So obviously that's

going to have an increase from when it was only

in four theaters. When that movie comes out Kevin,

I want to see it in theaters. Yes, I do too If

it would make it to theaters near us We would

all be seeing it and for those of you that don't

know I kind of mentioned it last week But Nate

Matt and I all live basically in the same vicinity

of each other So we're able to go to movies together

and talk about it. So that'll be fun Pompeii

had had a big drop 63 % drop in Pompeii in its

fourth week. So that is a Epic fail as far as

box office goes. Big flop. And that was already

tanking before. Yeah, now it's even more tanking.

100 million budget and it's at 22. So it's not

even a fourth of the way to its budget. Ouch.

Yeah, there wasn't any other huge drops. That

was the biggest drop as far as the top people

go. Veronica Mars just debuted in 291 theaters.

That came in 11th this week. Not really a huge

surprise. It only had a $6 million budget, so

I guess it didn't really have to do much to get

there. I don't know if that number's accurate

or not, but maybe it didn't cost much to make

that movie, I guess. Anything that you guys saw

that you wanted to talk about as far as Box Office

goes? Anything that surprises you, or what do

you guys think as far as next week? I'm kind

of going a little bit ahead, but we have the

Muppets movie, and we have Divergent. Probably

the two biggest ones coming out next week. Do

you think one of those will take the number one

spot? Or do you think Need for Speed 300 or Mr.

Peabody holds on to it? Nate? No comment. Dude,

I don't know. I really hope the Muppets one takes

first, because I think the trailers for that

look amazing. As we mentioned earlier, Nate,

now the podcast is you and I talked earlier.

I haven't seen any of the Muppets movies to my

memory, so I'm really interested. I'm going to

fix soon. Yeah, totally. Oh, by the way, I went

to the used video store and none of them were

there. That's upsetting. I do think that the

Divergent has an outside shot just because it's

got a lot of marketing behind it. I know it's

somewhat playing towards that younger audience,

so sometimes they will latch on to stuff like

that and go crazy. Maybe it doesn't, though,

because there's been a lot of flops in that same

kind of genre space. So we'll see if Divergent

can come out there, or if Muppets, I would think

one of them would get the number one spot, though,

over a not too competitive field there. So we

will have to see, and if we keep you guys updated

with Dan and I's predictions as far as what we'll...

be reigning supreme at the end of the year. An

updated year so far, Lego Movie still far in

a way is in the number one spot, beating all

its competitors by over a hundred million. Then

Ride Along, then 300 Rides of an Empire, then

The Monuments Men, and then non -stop rounds

out your top five for the year so far. So getting

into some of the news for the week. Some interesting

stuff here and starting with some headlines and

let's start with comic book stuff because That

is what we do here at the Geekcast Radio Network.

Start with X -Men news. This is an article that

was coming from the director, Brian Singer, and

some stuff that he did over at TotalFilm via

Joblo .com, revealing a little bit about the

feel for X -Men Apocalypse, and more specifically,

what time period it will be set in. And basically,

it's saying that it'll take place in the 80s.

Nate, how do you feel about X -Men Oclips taking

place in the 80s and apparently, according to

this article, being just all kinds of destruction

and craziness? The 80s thing is weird. Is it

in the same continuity as the earlier X -Men

movies? First class and on, I think. Oh right,

didn't first class like completely change the

continuity? Yeah, entirely. They threw out all

the old movies and new continuity starting in

the C's. Cool. And now they're somehow combining

them though with Days of Future present, at least

the character. Oh, yeah. Days of Future, isn't

it Days of Future Past? Yes. Yes. Based on the,

well, named after the Days of Future Past X -Men

story. But yeah. Then it wraps into the timeline

that Wolverine from last year is tied into that

same continuity. Yeah. They're going to have

to stop doing, eventually stop doing Wolverine.

He Jackman is Wolverine because they keep going

back and it's like, he's going forward in age

and they're like, well, just get all new actors

for everyone that's not He Jackman's part. I

mean, I get it. He's a great Wolverine and he

totally plays the part perfectly, but he will

not be able to do it for forever. Because Wolverine

doesn't age, and he clearly does. Does anyone

know what Steve Blum looks like? I'm going to

look that up right now. That is irrelevant. What

about just the general idea that it's just going

to be this mass destruction, chaos, and carnage,

and all kinds of more to a higher level of any

of the other X -Men movies, according to this

article? I've read a lot of the Age of Apocalypse

comics, which I imagine is where this is going

to draw heavily from. um and but and you know

they they the article i read was like and it's

gonna have a new villain it's like well it's

gotta be apocalypse right they're not gonna have

like someone else being in the apocalypse movie

um but i i that that lines of mass destruction

just makes me worried that it's gonna be a michael

bay x -men movie like it's gonna be transformers

meets wolverine I've got and also the trailers

for this most recent one did not enthuse me at

all as a comic book guy So I'm not I don't have

high hopes, but I'll see it if someone wants

to give see it I will definitely be seeing it

Nate. Are you still looking up Steve loom? No,

no, I did. I was just gonna say Like he does

he does the perfect voice of Wolverine So he

should just buff up and grow some mutton chops

and then be Wolverine. I Think he could do it

That would be amazing, just to see how that would

work. Yeah, dude, he's got mud and chops in this

picture I'm looking at right now. He looks fine.

Nate, Matt was saying that he's not super thrilled

about the End Days of Future Past coming out

as far as what he's seen from it. What about

you? No, I heard him. Agree? No, it looks good.

I want to see it. I don't even care. I honestly

want to see it. Matt doesn't know what he's talking

about. Well, I'm sure all the listeners will

give their feedback on to both their impression

and their excitement for both Days of Future

Past and Apocalypse and what has come out about

that. So on a sad note, we do have a new story

here about the man behind the moot trailers,

Hal Douglas, who if you've ever heard the phrase,

in a world, and then it goes on. narrating different

trailers and stuff like that. That's a pretty

famous intro line from him. He passed away at

the age of 89 this past week, so that's sad.

Great voice, and even if you don't know him by

name, you've heard his voice about a thousand

times. So you can go look up Hal Douglas on YouTube

or something and hear some of his work. Going

into an interesting note here that I really don't

care too much about, but I just find it funny.

I do like her as an actress, and we're talking

about Shailene Woodley, which I never know if

I say her name right or not, but we're just gonna

go with it. I've really liked her in her last

couple movies, and I just find it funny that

the stars of Divergent are mouthing off against

the stars in the storyline of Twilight. I love

the subheading too. It's, will Kristen Stewart

fight back? So silly. But I do think it's interesting.

Basically what she said in her story here is

that Twilight is toxic, it's unhealthy, it's

about relationships that aren't good. Bella falls

in love with this guy and the second he leaves

her, her life is over and she's going to kill

herself. What message are we sending to young

people? I don't know, I just find it interesting

that someone's making commentary on Twilight

in general. I feel there's a lot of commentary

to make on Twilight. Yeah, but I'm just saying

it's interesting to see it coming from someone

of that age group at least, not just us older

people being like, oh, you silly little teenagers.

It's actually someone in that demographic that's

supposed to like it that's saying that's really

not that good, besides the fact that the writing

sucked in that film. Yeah, definitely. Like,

I read the book, I saw the movie, and I agree

with all of her comments, although I think they're

a little late, aren't they? I mean, all these

movies are on DVD now. You're not gonna stop

someone who is, you know, on fence. I don't know

if it's like an attempt to separate what she's

doing with Divergent, which is about to hit theaters,

from Twilight, and if she's worried that too

many people are just gonna lump all these, you

know, all the, whatever, science fiction, fantasy,

you know, young Adult novel slash movies together

and she's like, wait a second. We're different.

We're not Twilight I don't know if this is like

what her purpose is That's the only thing to

me that can explain the timing of that Then maybe

she should have talked about like hunger games

and just game and things that are similar. They

look closer Yeah, and a little bit more relevant.

Yeah, it's old by this point So, I don't know.

We'll have to see how Divergent does. I definitely

like her better than Kristen Stewart. That's

for sure But that's a different story. Alright,

getting into some sequel and remake talk. We

always do that, seemingly, because there's always

talk in Hollywood about making stuff again, or

redoing stuff, or doing it beforehand, or what

came after, or sidequills even. What did I see

that was just a sidequill? Oh, 300. Yeah, 300.

Oh yeah. But anyways, there's an interesting

batch of... sequel talk here, and we're gonna

start with Jason Sudeikis' rumor. Stepping in

for a checking case in a long delayed film entitled

Fletch One? Fletch One? Fletch One, W -O -N,

like he won. Oh, he won! He did it! Apparently

it will be an origin story of the Fletch character

that Chevy Chase played back in 1985 and then

the sequel Fletch Lives in 1989. So we had Fletch,

Fletch Lives, and now Fletch 1. You know, I think

it's a good choice to not go with Chevy Chase

on the sequel. Could you ever go wrong with Chevy

Chase? And you know, Stallone did it in... Whatever

Stallone movie or whatever it was a prequel wasn't

it? I don't know I Just assumed it was I don't

know I think everybody assumes things about Stallone

movies at this point because nobody actually

watches them Seriously, but I don't know doing

I guess Chevy Chase couldn't be in this one.

So we're going with Jason Sudeikis who I mean,

he's a funny guy, I guess I have no idea who

you're talking about right now. He was in the

Muppet movie? No, no, I'm kidding. I looked at

it. Oh, OK. We were the Millers most recently,

but I guess I never saw or contemplated the fact

that there could be another Fletch movie. I've

never heard of Fletch until today. Yeah. Well,

no, I've heard of it because I've seen it at

Target, like the DVD. But that's all I know.

I've never seen the movie. Does that mean we

have to add another film to my coffee table?

I guess so. Do you like it? Is it good? I mean,

I don't know if I've ever seen Fletch Lives.

I saw Fletch. I don't know. I'm not a super huge

Chevy Chase fan. Generally, sequels to comedies

don't really work out too well. Except for Police

Academy. Bobcat Gold's way to the second one,

right? I'm not saying like the 16th one or whatever

it was that they eventually got to was necessary,

but like I like the first couple. I like Chevy

Chase personally, like I think he's good, so

I would watch it if I were invited to that party.

I liked him in some stuff. I don't even know

the last movie he did. I can't think of a movie

in the last. five or ten years that he's done,

but maybe I've been living under him. He's been

doing community for years now. Yeah. Yeah. And

that's awesome. I love community. We should talk

about Big Bang Theory. I'm just kidding. Oh,

I'm sorry. No, I just wanted to try to get Mike

and Dan riled up again and see if they could

continue their arguments. Oh, yeah. I guess this

isn't really a sequel, but I guess it falls under

maybe the remake reboot section. Apparently,

we should start preparing ourselves for Pretty

Woman the musical on Broadway. We're talking

about Julia Roberts and Pretty Woman. Apparently,

they're going to turn that film into a Broadway

play slash musical. Is Julia Roberts going to

be in it? No. I don't think she's singing. She

too is too old for that part. I think they're

going to try to get Anne Hathaway. No, I'm just

kidding. Really? No, I'm just kidding. I would

watch that. I'm just trying to think of a big

name star that can sing. But yeah, that's interesting.

I didn't know there was a call or a desire amongst...

Broadway going people for a pretty woman Interpretation,

but whatever more power to him. I guess I feel

like they just It's too many sequels and junk

Speaking of too many sequels the sequel the sequels

and remake section of your podcast Kevin I can

do without Let's talk about taken yes, let's

talk about taken See, with a name like Taken,

I feel like they do better than just put a number

next to it. Like, we could say, like, Taken again,

or... No. I don't know. There are other words

that could be... No. I like the standard numbering.

It's way better, especially, like, after the

whole Rambo fiasco. Yeah, as bad as some of the

die -hard remakes were, I at least like that

they did stuff like that. What did they say?

Like, live for your die -hard? Die -hard with

a vengeance? I don't know. Die -hard with electric

blue? Yeah, so Taken 3, if you guys didn't know,

that's happening. And the news article that hit

this week was about Famke Jansen, Liam Neeson's

wife in the film, is set to reprise her role,

as well as Liam Neeson, as well as Maggie Grace.

So the husband, wife, and daughter are all on

board for taking three. But get this, and this

is the most bizarre part of this story here.

Liam Neeson, this is a quote from him. He says,

they called me up and I said, I'll do it. But

only as long as nobody gets taken. No! What?

I like it. I like it. That was just speculation,

so now there's going to be a taken three, which

apparently is not going to have anybody taken

anywhere. It's just Liam Neeson. Why not? It's

like being like, I'll do Star Trek, no spaceships.

But a camp got an outer space. That's Liam Neeson

going, I'll do it, but you have to be more creative.

That's no, I think that's him just saying like

I'll do it cuz it's gonna make me money But I'm

gonna make sure you can't do anything that you

wanted to do with it. Like I I don't know I don't

think anyone's gonna care like if someone was

gonna go see you taking three They're just gonna

go see it. They don't care what it's about. All

right fine I mean, what else could you do? He

was taken then his family was taken There's no

one left to take wait. He was taken. He was taken

in the second one I've never seen any of them.

I thought it was taken in the first one Yeah,

yeah, he was taken in the second one. I believe

I don't remember the plot at all. There's nothing

left Yeah, so I mean they could take the bet

he could take somebody maybe he could turn into

the guy and take somebody I don't know um so

yeah taking three is happening get ready for

it It'll make some money and Liam Neeson will

continue being a 50 or 60 year old badass. Yeah

I'm all for that. Alright, into some casting

rumors. There is some big casting rumors that

apply to what we always talk about, which is

comic book stuff and Star Trek slash Star Wars

stuff. So we will start with Star Wars, and there

is rumors aplenty like there is every week about

more people possibly being linked to the next

Star Wars film. And apparently they have about

three or four young actors that they are narrowed

down as far as leading man candidates. Now, granted,

like we say always with J .J. Abrams stuff, he

is a master at throwing out false information.

So everything we could have ever reported on

Star Wars, remember, can quite possibly all be

false. Because that's what he does, because he

likes to keep people guessing. And that way when

you get to the actual film, you don't have a

clue what's going on. But, the four people that

are being linked to a lead role here, we have

Jesse Plemons, John Boyega, I'm probably saying

everybody that's wrong, Matthew James Thomas,

Ed Spielers, and Ray Fisher. Do you guys watch

any of these shows that they're from? The shows

that they're known for, Downtown Abbey, Attack

the Block, Friday Night Lights, Breaking Bad,

and some, looks like some Broadway stuff. But

are either of you guys familiar with any of these

characters? I'm going to preempt the comments,

and it's Donton Abbey. That's not downtown. And

I know that the fans are really bothered by that.

I've not watched any of them, personally. I mean,

I've heard good things about Donton Abbey, though.

Yeah. I'm not familiar with any of these actors,

but I guess to me that's good. Because I don't

want them just... To do the thing where they're

like, oh, let's just throw some big name in here

and then people come see it like that's kind

of classic Star Wars stuff to kind of Yeah, it'll

be like a DreamWorks Star Wars DreamWorks like

the Peabody or DreamWorks like their everything

else Like like Madagascar version of Star Wars.

We don't want that, right? I don't know I might

want it. I don't want it. Can you imagine Ben

Stiller being in Star Wars? No, I'm going to

kill myself Like that that better that bothers

just that idea upsets me like Star Wars is my

thing Like I know it more than I know anything

even comic books and that would bother me to

a whole new level Well, just like one of the

things that Star Wars kind of became famous for

at one point was the fact that the original films

don't really take any humongous names. Yeah,

they have some established actors. Harrison Ford.

But even Harrison Ford was relatively unknown

at that time. You had a lot of no names, quote

unquote, actors, and so it's kind of nice to

see, not that these guys are no names, but they're

not like your big Hollywood blockbuster. budget

stars like even the prequels did that a little

bit with bringing in Samuel L Jackson and and

Liam Neeson and attaching some big names to it

Which I'm not saying all those were bad choices,

but I kind of like the fact that I haven't heard

of a lot of these guys But I don't watch a lot

of TV so But we'll see as they narrow it down

as they bring out more rumors. What kind of role

they're even in People have rumored that it might

be offspring to some of the known characters

from the original trilogy, but we'll have to

wait and see. As far as comic book rumors, as

far as casting goes, a couple things here. There's

supposedly four actors in the running for Fantastic

Four's villain, Doctor Doom, and the names coming

up there are... Redman, Reilly, Kevill, or Gleason?

So Eddie Redman, Sam Reilly, Toby Kevill, or

Dom Hall, Gleason? And I guess that just fits

in with what we were talking about Star Wars

because I don't know who any of these people

are. When you said Redman, I thought you meant

Redman from the Wu -Tang? Yeah. Score by the

RZA? Yeah. It's gonna be the villain and then

obviously if you guys haven't heard the new cast

for Fantastic Four's includes Miles Teller, Kate

Mara, Michael B. Jordan, and Jamie Bell, so it's

definitely a younger Fantastic Four. What do

you guys think of just in general Dr. Doom being

the villain in this reboot of Fantastic Four,

or do we even need a Fantastic Four reboot? Yes,

we do. Well, yeah, I mean... okay so if it hasn't

pulled back it is my favorite couple character

and that i might have worked out what's in my

second these things like in so i'm you know bite

my nails over some of these casting but i mean

reid richardson this movie is is twenty six which

is really young uh... it's so like uh... actors

that they're they're thrown out here for doctor

do more all in their thirties Yeah, they're all

young 30s guys from the UK. Someone suggested,

like, maybe getting someone like Joaquin Phoenix,

who I think looks the part a lot more than some

of these other guys. He's got a nice, strong

jaw. I don't know how well he could play the

part. But, like, all of the casting in this movie

looks really weird. Like, the Brother and Sister

being different race, the really young Reed Richards

who's supposed to be the... Well, I mean, he's

supposed to be a World War II... Like, him and

Ben Grimm were in World War II. I know they really

can't do that anymore, because you can't have

80 -year -old Fantastic Four members on a reboot

of anything. But I mean, I guess they could have

done it, because they did this 1960s X -Men movie.

So I'm very upset about these things. I think

we needed a reboot after those last two, but

I don't know if this is the one for me. Yeah,

so it's definitely some weird casting so far,

and maybe they'll be able to pull it off and

look like geniuses, but... I don't know, it just

doesn't seem to be adding up at this point for

me. Nate, you're not a big Fantastic Four fan?

No, I am. The original ones from the early 2000s

weren't that great, and I would just like to

see them do a good one. I just hope that they

stay away from the gritty reboots. They don't

try to make it like Batman, because the Fantastic

Four should not look like Batman. Yeah. And people

that try to look like Batman so far have been

coming up not so good. I think if any Fantastic

Four villain, you could do a Doom as a grimdark

story. But yeah, I would definitely be cautious.

If you made just a Doom movie, that would be

awesome. All my money. All of my money. And staying

with more comic book casting rumors, this was

not as specific because there's not necessarily

a link to a film yet, but Terry Crews recently

spoke up about the possibility of him playing

a Luke Cage character in a Marvel film. and it's

saying that it's possibly because there was rumors

here that Marvel is going a little bit further

here that you know they have the movies going

out and now they're doing some Netflix shows

they're going to tie into stuff and apparently

one of them is going to be a Luke Cage series

so now the rumors are starting to fly about who

could be in it and he was saying that you know

people like Idris Elba were being thrown around

Michael J. White his name and at first he was

like kind of throwing off the rumors and saying

that you know nothing nothing's nothing to do

here but that's because the movie hadn't or the

show hadn't even been greenlit yet but he's saying

that that he'd definitely be interested regardless

of his age he said he thinks he could play the

character what do you guys think of a potential

Luke Cage series and who do you think is good

for that character if anybody Nate Like Terry

Crews as Luke Cage, but I don't know if you could

really play the part that well I don't know enough

about Luke Cage is the problem but he definitely

looks the part and I mean other than as long

as he's not acting like he does in his in his

Old Spice commercials, I think he'll he could

do it do it fine I am absolutely down. I searched

up all those guys and looked at them, and I thought

he looks the most the part of all the other guys

in the running. And I don't know, like, I think

Luke Cage does a lot of yelling, like the guy

in the old Spice commercials. I've read some

old Power Man stuff, as well as some newer, like,

Ryman and his stuff with Luke Cage in it, and

I think he's a great character, and I'm super

looking forward to this. a lot more than the

Fantastic Four stuff, which is way more what

I'm used to. Although this isn't even set in

stone at all. I know. It's just, he might? Yeah,

this is a very, very... the definition of just

rumoring. Not hearsay, but I think he looks the

part. The internet will do that, though. They'll

just be like, this guy looks a hell of a lot

like this character. He should play it. And there's

like no screenplay, no studio, no... And then

Nathan Fillion gets cast in everything for some

reason. Nothing wrong with that, he's amazing.

He is, but I'm just saying. You guys weren't

obviously as part of the show when we first broke

some or first started talking about some rumors

about the live -action Pan, Peter Pan story.

Directed by Joe Wright, but we had talked about

some cast news when Hugh Jackman got got linked

to it and there's also Garrett Headland who have

been been linked to it and it's weird because

There's gonna be a young Captain Hook, but then

there's gonna be a pirate called Blackbeard And

Captain Hook's not bad No, it's like an origin

story. It's like how Magneto wasn't bad. Right.

So you're going to have a young Captain Hook

who's not bad yet, and you're going to actually

have a villain in the pirate Blackbeard who is

going to be Hugh Jackman. I think he got that

flipped. What's that? I thought Hugh Jackman

was going to play Hook. I don't think so. No,

I think he's playing Blackbeard, because Garrett

Hedlund is much younger than Hugh Jackman. Oh,

OK, I got it. I read the article. And it's hitting

news again this week, because now they have someone

linked to Tiger Lily, which would be Rooney Mara.

It's interesting. The title of the article is

saying Rooney Mara is playing Tiger Lily, and

the internet is not OK with that. I don't know

what the... what the uproar is about that. I

think it's because, from what I understood, she's

not Native American enough. Yeah, I think someone

tied closely to it said that they were going

to make the cast a lot more diverse. And if you

look back at other people you mentioned, they're

all not very diverse. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And for

those of you who don't know who Runimar is, she's

from the girl with the dragon tattoo. And I don't

know I'm not familiar with her big, you know

that much but I don't see a problem with her

being tiger Lily I don't see why it would have

to be this race or that race as far as a remake

of this film I mean we got Captain Hook being

young and not bad yet and I don't know Yeah,

I don't know if I I'm interested at all in a

Peter Pan film again. Oh wow, really? I don't

know I hadn't heard of this until I read the

article today, and I was like, wow, I like these

ideas. I like the idea of Captain Hook, Peter

Pan, buddy film that turns wrong at the end.

Yeah, I do like that, and I think if they do

it in more of a modern style and with today's

things made... I guess my problem with the Peter

Pan franchise, I guess, if you want to call it,

even though they're not all from the same companies,

et cetera, but it's always been too... light

and childish for me and maybe this one will take

it in a completely different direction I mean

I'm not saying I have anything against Robin

Williams or hook or stuff like that but it's

it's just kind of like I think it's supposed

to be chat it's like a whole world of children

yeah exactly I'm not saying I didn't like hook.

I just at this point I don't need to see another

version of that So I guess if they go completely

different direction, maybe I'll be on board for

it. What do you think mate? I would watch anything

About Peter Pan I will I mean except for maybe

like the the vague genre movies, but um No, definitely.

Um anything with pirates in it like anything

like magic Fantasy, yeah, I'll watch it. All

right. Fair enough. Then we can get into a little

bit of the trailer talk. Some trailers that were

released this week included stuff from The Normal

Heart, Perfect Sisters, Devil's Knot, Tapped

Out, Under the Skin, a new trailer for Grand

Budapest Hotel, even though it's actually out

in theaters, a movie called Hateship Loveship,

The Quiet Ones, Cuban Fury, a new thing from

Sabotage, and Get On Up. Hey, Kevin. Yeah? Guess

which one I want to talk about the most. Grand

Budapest Hotel? Uh, second most. Um, Get On Up?

Yeah! Dude, I don't even care. James Brown's

amazing. Yeah, for those that don't know, Get

On Up is basically a story about James Brown

featuring the guy that played Jackie Robinson,

I believe. So he got to play Jackie Robinson

last year and he gets to play James Brown this

year. I don't think that's really fair. I think

that's awesome. I think he has a great life.

But yeah, that movie looks interesting. It's

got an interesting cast, actually. Dan Aykroyd.

Yeah, it's not just Dan Aykroyd. I guess I thought

it would maybe be like your typical. We've had

a lot of biopics about musicians in the last,

what, like 10 years. We've had the Johnny Cash

one with Walk the Line. We had Kevin Spacey play

Bobby Darin. I might be getting the wrong musician,

but we've had quite a few of them and they've

all had a certain tone. I don't know if this

one's going to be as serious or if it's going

to be a little bit more comedic or what we're

going to do here, but Dan Ayakroyd, Craig Robinson

I saw in one of the shots, the comedian Craig

Robinson. Viola Davis who's been super popular

lately, but I don't know that that one to me.

I'm with you that one looked interesting I'll

watch that one. Yeah, what other trailers caught

your guys fancy? If any sabotage Like I don't

know the second that Arnold Schwarzenegger said,

you know when I'm a governor I'm not gonna be

doing any movies only he said it more Arnold

Lee than that. I I was personally upset I grew

up on the Arnold Schwarzenegger movies. I can't

wait to see this one. Maybe not in theaters.

It's like Bruce Willis. If he's starring in an

action movie, I'm seeing it. I don't care if

they're 60, 70, and just unloading guns. I'm

going to watch it. Excellent. Yeah, that one

could be fun along the same lines as a lot of

stuff we've gotten recently with like Expendables

and Red and stuff like that. It just looks like

something that you just have fun with. uh...

there's a lot of trees that just didn't have

any desire to yes seriously um... i still don't

have a clue what under the skin is about her

anything is that the one with uh... so yes go

johansson it like mad you see you were saying

something about this one actually i've read uh...

read a blurb on it and the concept sounded like

uh... like uh... species at first turning into

that uh... the alien siding with the humans rather

than fighting the humans against their own people.

I think the concept sounds great. I think the

idea of casting Scarlett Johansson as the perfect

sexual female human or whatever they're trying

to do is probably a good choice. She's gorgeous,

we can all agree on that, right? But we'll have

to see more. The trailer did not enthuse me at

all. Yeah, the trailer is not very... doesn't

give a lot away, doesn't necessarily make you

interested in it, but I'm holding out hope that

that one's going to be something good. I'm not

going to write it off yet. Like I am going to

most of the other films I just mentioned that

had trailers this week. Yeah, I can't believe

how basic a trailer for Tapped Out was. It was

just like, do you like UFC? We made a movie!

Here you go! I would be somewhat... ticked off

if I was, because I do watch a little UFC, but

just like when I used to watch WWF and stuff

like that, I still never watched any of the movies

that were sponsored by them, because I just seemed

to be wrong and they were awful. But the main

villain, I guess, if you want to call it in this,

is a... A ex -UFC fighter, I believe. He may

be still under contract, I'm not sure, but he

never really won anything, so it's funny when

they're doing the things, they're like, this

UFC champion, and this UFC champion, and then

they just say his name. They don't even mention

that he was a UFC fighter. It's kind of like

when there's this huge cast of people, they all

won Oscars, and then they're just like, and David

Duchovny. It's a good company thrown under the

bus this week on him wire weekly Any any other

trailers you guys wanted to mention I? Don't

know I hadn't seen so I know you talked about

Grand Budapest Hotel last week You're very excited

for it. I was like I don't know sounds like a

drama I'm not all that interested. I've watched

the trailer this week, and I'm I'm glad that

I didn't see it earlier because then I would

have been hyped and then like why is it not here

yet, but now I'm all like Why is it not here

yet? Wes Anderson has been on a roll in my book

lately. I'm not necessarily one who just seeks

out directors and watches stuff for a director,

but I'm becoming more and more aware of them.

and what they've done before, and I really liked

Moonrise Kingdom, which was a 2012 release. He

did Fantastic Mr. Fox, the animated film, back

in 2009. He did The Life Aquatic with Steve Zizou,

The Royal Tanabombs, Rushmore, Bottle Rocket.

And I remember seeing Bottle Rocket a long time

ago, and that was phenomenal. So I'm a fan of

his, and I'm interested to see what he does this

time. It looks ridiculously great. I feel really

bad because I... haven't seen I've seen like

half of the Royal Tenenbaums and then none of

the other ones and I know that they're amazing

like I know everyone said like Everyone just

says they're amazing and I just haven't I got

around to seeing them yet. Most people don't

talk about bottle rocket though. That was like

Kind of an unheard of film or kind of flew under

the radar and if you guys haven't seen that we

should watch that because I haven't seen it in

like probably 15 years 10 years, 15 years, whatever.

But I remember really enjoying that. And I'm

not super huge on Little Royal Tenenbaums and

Life Aquatic, even though I still like them and

appreciate them. But I think really with Moonrise

Kingdom, he kind of hooked me in. So yeah, hopefully

that will be coming to theater soon, and we can

talk about that in depth in a future MWIRE weekly

episode. All right, moving on here, we're going

to take a quick second, and we'll be right back

with our main attraction. Mr. Dascombe, what

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every newspaper, heard on every radio, seen on

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I want every man, woman and child to understand

how close we are to chaos. I want everyone to

remember why they need us. Alright, thanks for

sticking with us, and it is time for the main

attraction. And kind of similar to last week,

we're combining the main attraction with what

we've been watching segments from before that

we used to do at MY Weekly. Doing that again

this week, I know some people are... Asking for

end up discussion on current movies that are

out there We've been kind of taken advantage

of the fact that there hasn't been a lot of huge

movies least in the months of January February

and into March And then also allowing the three

of us to kind of get a feel for each other in

the podcast And get familiar with that so we

will be doing some some modern films as we move

forward as bigger ones get released so Just be

patient, that will be coming. But today we're

going to talk about some movies that we have

seen. But let's first get a real quick insight

from Nathan on his experience, his real quick

experience with a Johnny Knoxville film. Oh,

yeah, okay, so I had to look this up. At work,

I caught 15 minutes of The Ringer with Johnny

Knoxville in it, and this is a movie where Johnny

Knoxville pretends to be mentally handicapped

to win the Special Olympics. For some reason,

I don't know, I saw the 15 minutes out of context,

and it was probably the most offensive movie

I've ever seen. Like, I don't know, it was right

at the end where he was like, he won? And he

had the gold medal? and then he was like you

know i'm i got to tell the truth i gotta come

clean up i'm not retarded these guys are they

deserve to have this metal and it was just like

it was so bad and and then the the love interest

kath uh... kathryn heigl well i don't know what

she was doing in this movie but she was cash

in a paycheck but like she was like yes yes you're

not retarded way to go It was so bad, and that

was it. And then I had to go back and work, and

I was so depressed for the rest of the day. So

while on break at work. Yeah. I don't know. Never

watched The Ringer ever, Jesus. Wow. You don't

want to see the whole movie? I couldn't last

because the whole movie is based on the premise

of like... Hey, you know how you laugh at retarded

people when no one's looking? You can watch a

movie and then laugh, and I don't know, you'll

feel good about yourself because they're... I

don't even know, like, there's nothing good about

that movie. I hate it. Strong words, I hate Johnny

Knoxville and the Ringer. As a person who has

a mentally handicapped person in my family really

close to me, well, kinda close to me as a cousin

that I grew up with. I find that being able to

laugh at something that is normally very depressing

is a good thing. I don't know if Johnny Knoxville

is the best choice. I don't know if this movie

is any good. I remember seeing ads for it and

being like, I don't know, guys. It sounds like

a live -action South Park to me, really. Yeah.

I don't know. It was just - And I think it was

the Park Kids ad -advent episode before. So I

don't know. I'm going to go with Nate. You could

probably miss it if you haven't already missed

it. I've never been a huge Johnny Axl fan just

in general. I know a lot of people like his stuff

and think it's hilarious. I don't know. I have

a different sense of humor, I guess. And something

else that you guys saw that I didn't really see

a lot of because I came in at the end. But I

don't think either... Had either of you seen

this film beforehand, King Arthur? No. I had.

So in the 90s, when I was growing up, or the

early 2000s, I saw King Arthur. I saw Superman

Returns. And I loved them as a kid. And then

I heard all these reviewers smashing them and

people on the earlier internet smashing them.

And so as an adult, I was like, I bought them

both. And I'm like, maybe I was wrong. And I'll

re -watch them. And that's why I watched Superman

Returns about a month ago and then King Arthur

just a couple days ago. Were you wrong or were

you right? I was right as a child. They're both

great movies and I think anyone who's bashing

them needs to calm down. They're wrong. I don't

know. I think King Arthur was... King Arthur

wasn't a really great movie. It was just kind

of... It felt bland to me. Like, I don't know.

I didn't get behind it at all. Like, I had some

problems with it not being... the legend of King

Arthur. You know, you'd be like, I'm gonna go

see a King Arthur. I'm gonna have a wizard telling

a little boy about how he gets the sword, he

becomes the King of England, and it's a magical

sword. And that's, you know, that's what I want

from a King Arthur movie. That said, dumb. Like,

the only problem I really had with this movie

was the blurb at the beginning, like, this is

a historical accuracy, and we found our theological

text, you know, saying this is what happened.

Like, take that out. No one cares. No one cares.

Like, if you're... If your medieval fantasy movie

is more historically accurate than the other

dudes. Like, no one. So, you take that, and I

think it's a pretty good movie. I mean, there

are some inaccuracies, like them shooting barbed

wire arrows. Like, that was weird. But I thought

it had good fight scenes. I thought it had very

distinct characters that were all... I could

see what they were doing with them and relate

to them. And I liked it. I thought it was great.

And I'd love to see Keira Knightley. Yeah. And

I'd love to see Keira Knightley. And I'd love

to see Keira Knightley. And I'd love to see Keira

Knightley. And I'd love to see Keira Knightley.

And I'd love to see Keira Knightley. And I'd

love to see Keira Knightley. And I'd love to

see Keira Knightley. And I'd love to see Keira

Knightley. And I'd love to see Keira Knightley.

And I'd love to see Keira Knightley. And I'd

love to see Keira Knightley. And I'd love to

see Keira Knightley. And I'd love to see Keira

Knightley. And I'd love to see Keira Knightley.

And I'd love to see Keira Knightley. And I'd

love to see Keira Knightley. And I'd love to

see Keira Knightley. And I'd love to see Keira

Knightley. And I'd love to see Keira Knightley.

And I Yeah. All right. And bouncing all over

all kinds of crazy stuff that we watched. I want

to get into one that I know Matt, you've seen

before a lot about it. And I had never seen it

before. So Nathan wanted me to see it. So we

watched this for the first time, for my first

time here. And that was V for Vendetta, which

I'm sure a lot of people listening to the podcast

will be familiar with that film. But before we...

get our thoughts. Matt, what is your experience

with that film and how do you either like or

dislike it? So I saw V for Vendetta in theaters.

Back when Nate and I were starting Movie Night,

we watched it again because he had to see it

for a class. And then I watched it just last

November. I love that class, by the way. I watched

it just last November because Nate and I's mutual

friend Robbie had never seen it. And then my

girlfriend Amy likes to watch it every fifth

of November. So I've read the graphic novel.

I read comic books, and I've seen the movie.

I would say they're both different takes, like

most Alan Moore adaptations. It's really good,

though not as good as the original, I think.

I think V does not come across nearly as insane

as he is in the comics. In the movie, it's like

a revolution. It's a revolution for the people,

and it's all great. In the books, it's like there's

this crazy guy, and he's blowing things up. uh...

but i i love the movie i thought it was done

well john heard that the great part of the dictator

uh... and uh... the voice uh... the guy does

the uh... you know we didn't i love i love you

do we think anything whether he's an elf or a

v or whatever so i mean i i love that movie i

think i think that's generally agreed upon like

everyone loved that movie nate do you agree yeah

i really enjoy that movie i've seen it plenty

of times and It's entertaining from start to

finish for me. I agree with most of what you

guys say. I really liked the second half of the

movie. Wait, starting when? Starting when she

gets captured and tortured. Or maybe slightly

before that. Do you have something against Natalie

Portman? No. Okay, no No, but they're there at

some point. Yeah, I think I'm going a little

bit ahead of that I think I think it was a little

bit before that where it picked up for me But

the first like I don't know the first like 20

to 30 minutes I'm just completely guessing but

I think that's about an accurate time stamp there

I just I was having trouble getting like and

get invested in it like really finding myself

like wanting to pay super attention and get involved

and you know kind of along for the ride I was

just kind of trying to figure out if I was interested

or not for the first like 20 minutes and I was

like I don't know about this film but then about

the time when I was saying that it picked up

and I enjoyed from there on out and I enjoyed

everything about the whole second half to two

-thirds, whatever it was. I don't know, something

about the first part just seemed a little bit

murky and mucky and slow, and maybe if I re -watched

it, having seen it, I will find more joy with

that first little bit, but that being said, I

did enjoy the film. I thought, especially like

I said, that last half was really good, and I

agree with Matt that Hugo Weaving's great in

that. Natalie Portman's good in it, not great,

but she's good. But most of the other characters

did a pretty good job in it, so I find it fun.

I don't know, what else do you guys have to say

about V for Vendetta? Anything? I think I have

to agree with you. Like, when you said that,

I don't think Natalie, you said Natalie Portman's

good, I don't think she's great. Like I never

thought about it like that was such a great movie

and Natalie Portman's probably my favorite actress

But like I don't yeah, I think I agree that she

didn't do the best she could have done in that

Yeah, then I think that was I don't know as far

as the times As far as when that movie came out

originally I don't know if it was like earlier

on before she really started Hitting it big with

some of her performances and maybe she was still

trying to like figure things out But I don't

know me or maybe it was just the the subject

material She was involved with maybe it was at

that point not something she could Kind of put

herself into as much or maybe it was just that

she was overshadowed by Hugo weaving and some

of those other characters But but I'm not saying

she was bad. She was good Hugo weaving in that

V has such a screen presence that it's hard to

compete when you're doing lines with V, because

I don't know, something about just like the mask,

you know, and I don't know, something about it,

it's kind of like Rorschach in Watchmen just

stole every scene he was in. It's kind of the

same thing. Yeah, I mean, I remember thinking

when I first saw it like, wow, he's taking a

role where you never see his face. Isn't that

risky as an actor? But he totally proved that

he was the superior actor in that movie. I agree.

In an interesting turn here, because one of the

most mysterious films of 2013 was a film called

Old Boy. And we talked about it a little bit

in a previous episode because Dan, I believe,

former co -actually saw that film and he made

some comments about it in brief as far as the

new one goes. The weird part about Old Boy was

that it got yanked from theaters so quickly last

year that virtually nobody was able to go see

it. It made just about no money, which was weird

because it... a lot of buzz going into it. It

was one of those films that when people were

just, when 2013 was just starting and people

were making lists of the films they were most

anticipating to see or what films were gonna

be, that they were looking forward to, et cetera,

there was a lot of buzz behind Old Boy and a

lot of people thought that it was gonna be a

pretty amazing film or at least something that

would have a little cult following or something.

And it just came out and disappeared so quick.

And apparently it was just an awful film. I haven't

seen it. But the reason I bring that up is because

the two of you, and I saw part of it, but the

two of you guys saw the original Old Boy, which

Dan had a lot of good comments about. So I'm

interested to get your guys overall on the original

Old Boy and what you thought of it. You want

to start, Nate? Yeah. I was completely... into

that movie. It was such a dense film that, I

don't know, it's hard to describe really. I'm

going to think about it actually. Matt, you go.

It felt like when I came in that you guys had

each just participated in a marathon of movie

mental exercises. We only saw the one movie that

day. Yeah, and I think that sums it up really

well was that there was so much going on. You

would get a reveal and you'd be like, oh, so

that's what's happening. And then it'd be like,

wait, no, there's more. At every scene, it was

just, there's more, there's more. Like, you're

learning things. And you had to do a lot as a

viewer, a lot more than you usually do with an

American movie. I don't know. You mentioned it's

a Korean movie. Like, they don't just hand it

to you. Like, they do with a lot of these bigger

movies in America. And I like that. I don't think

I enjoyed it as much as Nate. I mean, I loved

the movie. It was great. I wouldn't mind owning

it. But it was very exhausting. It's not one

I could watch regularly, because it's just so

much. It's so dense. It was like watching four

movies in two hours. I think it's kind of a movie

that you have to show people, but you never just

pop it in to watch. Exactly, exactly. But I did

enjoy it. It did so many things that you wouldn't

expect, and I think it's probably because it's

coming from the Korean point of view that, you

know, as an American audience, I just wouldn't

expect stuff like that to happen. It was just

so out there, a lot of the stuff that happened.

I don't know if we want to go into spoilers at

all about this movie, probably. No, I personally,

if you spoil one thing... It's not the type of

movie that you should... Yeah. Yeah, definitely

not, yeah. Some movies and spoilers don't affect

it too much, but I feel like a spoiler would

affect that one a lot. Yeah, definitely. I would

say definitely it crosses a lot of lines that

I don't think American movies would cross, which

is probably why the American one got bold and

said it probably did cross those lines or it

didn't. But I'm really interested in seeing the

American version now. Yeah. Yeah, I hear that

the American version's had a lot of weird things

about it, like the... It kept all the Korean

-ness of it, like there's a clue with steamed

dumplings and they kept it as steamed dumplings.

Oh, really? Yeah, and they kept the hammer fight

when it's set in Louisiana and everyone's fighting

with boards. It makes no sense whenever like

a gang would be fully equipped with guns because

it's Louisiana. What's that? It's like a nail

hammer two by four fight that makes sense in

a country that doesn't have a lot of guns. That's

really true gun laws. Yeah, in America, he would

be gunned down quickly. Yeah. So I don't know.

I really want to see it, but I don't know. It

sounds weird. Like, it shouldn't have been made.

I do have a comment, actually, about what I would,

having known nothing about the american version

after seeing the korean one and hearing hey they're

gonna make an americanized version of this what

i would rather have is a honestly i know it's

probably a terrible thing to say a less dense

version where it's like he gets captured he's

thrown in this room and he's watching kung fu

movies and it's like a montage of him like trying

to do the kung fu moves and then he just like

gets out and it's just uh him punching people

for an hour like i mean that kind of like the

whole like oh boy it's such a dense it's so great

story I kind of want two versions where I've

got this great movie to show my friends, and

then this a lot less intense movie where it has

a similar plot, but there's a montage and punching.

A lot more punching. It's just like a popcorn

action film. Yeah. I kind of want both of those.

And I know I'm not actually going to get it,

but I can't wait to see the second one anyway.

The newer version of it has a 44 % on Rotten

Tomatoes. It grossed $850 ,000 in its first five

days, which according to this is one of the weakest

Thanksgiving openings of all time. And it opened

in 17th place at the box office. So that's not

a real good opening. And it only made under $5

million, which is not a lot of money in movie

terms. So yeah, so we'll have to see if we get

a chance to hopefully watch that one together

and finally see what the big problem with it

was as far as the 2013 release starring Josh

Brolin, Elizabeth Olsen, Samuel L. Jackson, and

some others. Elizabeth Olsen, if you guys don't

know, the sister of Mary -Kate and Ashley Olsen

is in that one. I didn't know there was a third

one. Yes, and she actually has a legit acting

career, so it's kind of interesting. Speaking

of Mary -Kate and Ashley Olsen, I saw The Little

Rascals! That is, to me, the most random film

you saw this week. Yeah, no, I don't know. I

watched The Little Rascals, the 1994 version.

And the only point I want to make about this

movie is... Like, whatever, it's a fine kids

movie. It's got silly acting from, like, kids

that shouldn't be acting. But, um, it has some

of the weirdest cameos ever. Like, big names

and weird names. Like, Mel Brooks is in it. Uh,

Whoopi Goldberg, but she was in the 90s everywhere.

Um, Daryl Hannah. Reva McIntyre. Uh, Mary Kay

and Ashley Olsen, whatever. Donald Trump is in

the movie. Um, and then George Wendt is in the

movie. And it's just like, why? I don't know.

They had so many big 90s stars, I guess. Did

you enjoy the film? Yeah. I mean, I liked it

as a kid. And it's stupid. It's really dumb.

But I don't know. It's got charm. It's a charming

film. I've actually never seen it. It kind of

came out a little bit after my time as far as

that genre of films go. I guess I wasn't interested

in that type of film when I was that age. And

you were a little bit younger than me, so I can

see you. Oh, yeah, yeah. But yeah, I don't know

if I'll see that one or not. I was like six when

it came out, so. Yeah. That's about the right

age. Also speaking of Elizabeth Olsen, for those

people who haven't seen her in a film yet, you

will be getting the chance soon because she's

not only in Godzilla this year, but she will

also be Scarlet Witch in Captain America, The

Winter Soldier. So you can see. Oh, fun. Elizabeth

Olsen in that role. Alright, and last week we

were all about crappy movies, so we wanted to

take another chance to watch one together from

beginning to end. We had our own little crappy

movie night and we watched a fantastic film,

which I'm not even joking when I say that, even

though I'm laughing. I really suggest everybody

go see this film that's interested in what we're

talking about with Crappy Movie Night. And the

name of the film is Nazis at the Center of the

Earth. This movie was so fun. It was so fun.

For those of you ... I don't even know how to

give a premise for this film, but it's exactly

what the title says. There's Nazis at the center

of the earth. It was interesting. You were talking

about old boy having to reveal, and then you

think you understand what's going on, and then

there's ... says no or there's a different reveal.

To me, that was this film. Every time I thought

I had seen everything and I thought it had gone

as far crazy as it could, it got crazier. We

can't really say too much about the film because

I really don't want to spoil it. Not that anyone's

actually going to go see this, but I really hope

somebody does. I hope every single person that

listens to this podcast goes to Netflix. It's

on Netflix. Yes, on Netflix. You can get it for

free. I mean, technically not, but whatever.

Netflix it. Watch it have some fun. It's so good.

It's only like an hour and a half But you're

gonna feel like you've been entertained for like

three hours Laughing is good for you. This is

definitely one to get some laughs It is just

like oh, and I guess we should say who is the

big one of the big names Gary Busey's relative

Jake Busey. Jake Busey, who's Gary Busey's son,

plays the professor in this movie. They don't

even need to know who he plays because just watch

the film for about 20 minutes. You will be able

to identify which one is a Busey. You'll be like,

is that guy trying to be like Gary Busey? He's

kind of doing it okay. He kind of looks like

Gary Busey. He's like a scaled back Gary Busey.

He's slightly less crazy. He looks like he could

be Gary Busey's younger, like... Winbrother or

something. If Gary Busey has a Rambo, Jake Busey

should play the prequel of the Gary Busey Rambo

or whatever movie it is, Gary Busey's Rambo.

I would, I would see, or no, it's Rocky, whatever.

It's a Devin Stallone movie that has the prequel,

whatever. They're all the same. Um, the, the,

I don't know, the best payoff for this film is

the fact that everybody should watch this film

and you're... You're gonna have the unexpected

happen go through twists and turns that you did

not expect and then at the end of it You're gonna

say to yourself. Why didn't I expect that? I

don't know if I've ever had that type of movie

experience where I was just completely like,

no they didn't, and then immediately they did

something completely different that was even

a different level of no they didn't. And there

is hope for a sequel to it. No way. Yeah, it

was a post -credit scene. That's a lead into

a sequel, right? I told them Marvel, they did

a post -credit scene that totally says, there's

potential here. I seriously thought Kevin was

doing his movie news magic and found out that

they're on production working on Nazis of the

Sun and the Earth 2. I have developed Inside

Track to Asylum. So badly. I have a few suggestions

for them. I've got one problem with this movie,

which was there were roughly 10 people. in this

movie like it wouldn't surprise me that if the

nazis that were wearing masks were just the students

that weren't in that scene like it just felt

like there was there was no one in this movie

and i don't know why they couldn't go on craigslist

or whatever and put up hey we need 12 extras

but you're naming the credits no pay and then

well give them laughs and then just you know

sprinkle them into the movie like it just needed

more bodies I don't think they can find enough

people in Antarctica. Come on. Oh, I forgot.

Yeah, I know. If you like Nazis, I'm sorry. Nobody

likes Nazis. If you like Nazis, if you like stuff

about being in the middle of the earth, if you

like science fiction slash horror genre, silly

films, or just you like crabby movies and period,

or if you're just... A human being, you should

watch this film. Like, Nazis at the center of

the earth. It sounds so bad, and it is so good.

It's exactly like Land of the Lost with Brendan

Fraser, except replace Gary Busey with Brendan

Fraser and then you're good. I don't think it's

anything like that. No, I think that's perfect.

Only the comedy in this one's funnier. Oh yeah,

definitely. And there's not really crappy 3D

effects. One, you said it, horror. And I guess

that was an element to it. It was supposed to

be kind of like a horror movie. As I said last

week with the human centipede talk, I do not

like gross. I do not like gore. There was one

scene that started off being very intense, gory,

like this is violence on my movie, that immediately

turned so comedically cartoon -y. that it just

turned that switch off in my mind. And I'm like,

nothing they do will ever be taken seriously

from this point on. Yeah, there was a couple

points where I turned away almost because I was

like, I don't want to see what's about to happen.

And it wasn't as bad. But no, it's almost, I

guess when I say horror film, I'm not talking

about like a straight up horror film. I'm thinking

more of like the films like, what is it, like

The Thing or like, Any any type like that element

of horror films where there's like a people trying

to escape or avoid the The yeah, you know the

plan that is being planned for them by the villains

or the you know antagonist, etc So it has like

that little element of like survival type Situation

on it which reminded some of those campy horror

films. It's like saw with Nazis and better in

the middle of the earth In the middle of the

earth, center. With the area in the center of

the earth, with clouds and suns that are really

not clouds and suns, which I thought was a cool

effect actually. I could say that was actually

a really good effect, the way they did the clouds.

I don't know about the sun, the clouds for sure.

So here's the hope, that at least one of you

will go watch that and then comment on the episode

post about what you think. Yeah, definitely.

I want to get people's reactions from this film.

It's on Netflix. It's free. If you have Netflix,

go view it and comment on it. And we're very

much looking forward to interacting with you

about your opinions of Nazis at the center of

the earth. Any other thoughts on the movie, Nate?

No. It's good. Matt? I don't know. I could talk

for hours about it. It's great. Go watch it.

Yes. All right. As far as Other stuff that you

might be interested in watching, stuff that's

being released this week on Blu -ray and stuff

that's coming to the theater. There is a few

movies that we talked in depth about last year

that are about to hit Blu -ray and DVD release.

One of those movies would be American Hustle,

which is out on the Combo Pack here this Tuesday.

We also have Nate, Frozen. Yay. Even though it's

still in the theater, which we didn't say in

the box office, but it brought in another $2

million this last week. It's still in the theater?

Yes. Jesus. It brought in another $2 million,

or just over $2 million, which now puts it just,

I believe, $4 million short of that, what was

it, the $400 billion mark? Yeah. Was that Transformers

or whatever? Yeah. It was something right behind

something, but it's getting real close to that

400 million market. If it's out two more weeks,

it probably hits it. So you can go buy Frozen.

You can go buy American Hustle. Apparently, you

can go buy The Jungle Book 2. I don't know what

that is. Is that that? Oh, they made The Jungle

Book 2. And then, yeah, it was from 2003. Interesting,

well that's coming out apparently on blue right

now. It's a Disney vault thing. Gotcha, okay

Disney vault. So as far as the big films though,

American Hustle, Frozen, and then the other one

being Mandela, Long Walk to Freedom, which was

a big one that came out last year. So you can

see all of those as well as some crazy other

stuff. Atlantis, season one, like Nate said,

or like we talked about. Jungle Book 2, any of

those... Hold on, hold on. I'm sorry, there's

a movie on this list called Here Comes the Devil,

and that sounds hilarious. And I think if you

buy that, you're also... If you buy that, you

can get the Slumber Party Massacre for free,

which is also coming out there. And the Kill

Your Darlings combo pack, it seems like. No,

I don't know what that is. That's probably not

even horror. Are you guys interested in either

purchasing any of those films? Nate, are you

going to get Frozen? Definitely, probably tomorrow.

Oh, I assumed you had frozen on pre -order. No,

I don't. I go to Target. I personally will probably

buy American Hustle, even though I haven't seen

it. It was the one movie I was the most excited

about in 2013, but never made it out to see.

I really, really love heist movies, so I'll probably

just buy it and see it. Here's to see it. If

you buy it, though, Nate needs to see it. Totally.

I'm speaking for him. did you see it kevin? yes.

what did you think? yay or nay? it was good.

it did not make my... i said yay or nay! yay.

alright, alright. we gotta keep it snappy. we

gotta keep it snappy. keeping it snappy. alright,

as far as theater releases coming out this week.

like i said, divergent coming out thursday night.

muppets most wanted coming out thursday night.

those are probably the only two that you need

to know about. if you're interested in any of

the other ones you can click on our... Paid our

website and you can see the other films that

are coming out nymphomaniac volume one limited

release I know there's been some talk about that

film as well As far are you guys interested?

I know you're interested in Muppets Is that the

either of you have any interest in divergent

or do your girlfriends have interest in divergent?

What's divergent again? I forget. It's like a

sci -fi young adult novel. Oh It's uh, yeah,

it's like not Twilight. Yeah, it's not I am I

hadn't I don't know. So until I started doing

this I Was woefully lacking in movie news and

information and trailers and everything. I don't

have I don't have cable I don't have it. I really

don't have a television hooked up to anything

just in Netflix And so like I'm way behind that

really bothers me. I actually saw the Divergent

Barbies I think it was when I was at Toys R Us

over the weekend looking at Star Wars toys. That's

what I do and I I'm a little interested, but

I probably won't see it. One movie that's in

limited release that I wanted to mention was

A Birder's Guide to Everything, because that

looks like a very fun movie that I wouldn't mind

seeing if I could get it. What's that one about?

It's about a cult of birders, which are people

that are bird watchers, bird viewers, see a bird

that they think is extinct, and then I guess

they... They try to go and hunt it down because

it's going to be a big thing and then it's a

coming of age flick. But the point about it though

that I get from it is Ben Kingsley is in it and

it doesn't look like he's playing a bad guy.

Which role was he playing in it? I don't know.

He's just there. The professor I get that they

go to for information and help seems to have

a slightly possible bad guy turn at the end.

Damn it! Oh man. Of course he would! Then he

won't really be bad, you know, piss people off.

Anyways, going into what we usually do next,

which is our credit conversation, talking a little

bit about our feedback from last week. And we

did get a good number of comments. We had about

25, 30 comments on the website there. As far

as our episode last week, and the question that

we had asked was, number one, what's your favorite

crappy movie? But we got more feedback actually

about West Side Story. Oh yeah. A lot of feedback

about West Side Story, most of which was not

necessarily excitement for it. I'm going to comment

right now. I'm going to go in. So everyone who's

like, don't do a West Side Story remake, guess

what? It's not going to change the old one. The

old one's great. Let's get another good one.

Yeah, it doesn't hurt the old on you can have

two good things You can have or you can have

one good thing and one really bad thing and then

you'll can laugh at the really bad things Still

have the good thing. I got the good thing So

yeah, there was a one person said, please God

know West Side Story remake or well, let's know

Please God know West story remake, which I don't

know. Maybe he's thinking of a different film

But there was a few people that thought it could

be pulled off and some people that were interested

to see if Spielberg could do it. As far as some

crappy movies, I wanted to real quick name a

few things that people talked about. Classic

Delta Force, Lone Wolf McQuade, basically anything

that had Chuck Norris or David Carradine in it.

Go ahead. I was going to say, we've watched a

lot of Chuck Norris and David Carradine movies.

The weirdest David Carradine movie probably being

Evil Toons, which was awkward to say the least.

And then there was one Chuck Norris movie which

has probably my favorite off, you know, just

one throwaway scene, which is where Chuck Norris

is going to go save his friends, and it's like

a mixture of like, these are my friends that

made it this country, and now I got to go back

to the country to save them. And like, it shows,

it cuts back in the past. He's on top of a tower,

he pulls out two grenades, tosses the pins, jumps

into a group of enemies that are all armed with

rifles, and then just cuts the present. Boom.

Like what? No, he's holding grenades. Like, he

jumped into a bunch of guys. No, he's fine, he's

Chuck Noah's. Yeah, they have Chuck Noah's. Also,

Jim Cotta was one that mentioned, and I was actually

expecting somebody to mention it. I'm glad they

did. I don't know, because I wanted to ask you

guys if you've seen it or not, but the quote

-unquote worst movie of all time, Troll 2. Oh,

I've seen it. Matt, have you seen that one, too?

I have not. Nate and I came upon the whole bad

movie night idea on our own, and then I heard

later about movies like Troll 2, The Room, and

what's the other one that's really common? I

don't remember. Birdemic. Birdemic, that's the

other one that will be big. We've seen Birdemic.

We've seen The Room. I haven't gotten a copy

of Troll 2. I don't know if it's on any of the...

I've got access to Hulu and Netflix and Amazon

Prime. I should see if I can get it. I saw it

on Netflix. Is it the worst movie of all time,

Nate? No. It depends on what you... One out of

a movie because it was completely entertaining

because of the terrible dialogue and because

of the terrible effects It was just fun to watch

But then you get a movie. That's just super boring

that I would probably say that would be worse.

I actually was just talking to my cousin this

last week about Troll 2 for some reason. He was

saying that there's a documentary out there where

they talk about or they're talking to the director

or the writer or something and he's actually

defending the film and saying that it was actually

a serious film and he wasn't meaning it to be

a bad film. Generally those are the best. If

a filmmaker goes into a movie trying to make

the best thing he can make and then he makes

a pile of crap. That's generally better than

a person that goes in trying to make a pile of

crap. Unless you're working with the asylum.

Well, yeah. I hope the asylum is 100 % serious.

I hope it's the most serious movie industry,

studio, whatever, out there. But I'm really worried

about Bird Dimmick 2, because Bird Dimmick 1

was so hilarious, because I felt like they were

trying to do something good, but then, like...

It just went horribly wrong because they had

no idea what they were doing. But now they're

making Birdemic 2 and they're like, we're gonna

make it like it was before because you guys like

that. And then it's gonna lose all of the like

heart and soul of that movie. Even though, I

don't know if you could say that there's heart

and soul in Birdemic. So some other films that

got mentioned, Sharknado, Land Sharks, Howard

the Duck, Tiptoes, Birdemic. Super Mario Brothers,

Street Fighter, Double Dragon. No, no, no, no.

No, Street Fighter is a legitimately awesome

movie. I'm with Nate. I enjoyed it. I do think

they cast probably the wrong person for him,

Bison. No! And some funny movies where it's like,

what are these? Those are Bison dollars, uh -huh.

I think it had some moments that were bad. I

legitimately liked it, though. What about Double

Dragon? I also liked Double Dragon as a kid.

I don't remember it. I know it doesn't follow

the video game. That bothers me. It's got some

floating pendant and stuff. It's got some mystical

elements. But I enjoyed it when I was eight and

I saw it. Yeah, but they're not just going to

make a ninja movie about someone stealing someone's

girlfriend. Why not? And then you have to go

back and fight ninjas. I don't know. Yeah, I

guess I don't know. I could watch either. Demolition

Man, Mortal Kombat Annihilation. The moral content

movies are awesome. I saw those and didn't enjoy

them too, so I don't know. I actually enjoy those

too. And then Jason Mack's also got to mention

as a favorite bad movie. Some of these I don't

know if they would qualify necessarily as bad

movies. Maybe films that people just didn't like.

But I do think like Birdemic, Troll 2, and some

of the other ones mentioned definitely fall into

the kind of category that we're trying to talk

about. Was Demolition Man sponsored by Taco Bell

or something? The guy's like, speaking of Taco

Bell, how about Demolition Man? I don't know.

I don't know where that came from. Maybe there

was cups at Taco Bell that had Demolition Man

on them? I don't know. It might have had a Taco

Bell scene. I don't remember. Like Super Product

placement? Like Superman? Yeah, probably. Superman

didn't have product. Oh, go watch that again.

You're talking about Man of Steel, not Superman.

Oh, yeah. That's what I mean. I was going to

say, in Superman, there was one product placement

I noticed, which was he was eating Cheerios.

And I turned to Robby, and I was like, is that

a product placement? Because it's half a box

of Cheerios. You can barely read it, but we all

know it's Cheerios with the yellow box. And he

goes, are you kidding me? Every kid in America

was probably like, I need to eat Cheerios like

Superman. And I was like, yeah, you're probably

right. Speaking of product placement, Transformers

4 is coming out this year. Anyway, so thanks

for all the feedback. We look forward to some

more feedback in next week when you guys can

give us your feedback on our thoughts on Nazis

at the center of the universe. Those of you that

have seen Oldboy or V for Vendetta, you can talk

about that a little bit. What do we want to ask

them for next week, guys? I had a question if

no one else had thought of one. Perfect. I got

nothing. Which was, what movie's ending, whether

it was a twist or not a twist, was the most surprising?

Because we had a lot of surprise twist endings,

both Old Boy, which was really a twist ending,

as well as Next to the Earth, which had two double

twists. Or what movie had a twist ending that

didn't surprise you at all? Because at the same

time, Old Boy's twist was kind of twisting, but

I kind of, I guess I foresaw it about a minute

before it happened. So the most predictable or

the most surprising twist of any movie you've

ever seen? Yeah. Our comment section is going

to be volatile. Like, you don't want to look?

I'm gonna want to look. I hope it reads conversation.

They're gonna ruin all the movies you haven't

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