Captain Phillips Review

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That and a look at Captain Phillips. All for

you to enjoy. Welcome to my weekly for the week

of October 14th 2013 where we look at the week

of movies that was Joining me on today's adventure

Our co -host Kevin optimus solo. How are you

today? I'm doing pretty good and Michael booth

ninja powers. How are you? Good good. I am glad

to be here That's good. I would not like it if

we don't force you to come no i well no i'm just

i'm glad to be here uh had um family troubles

um uh i don't know started late wednesday night

uh into early early thursday and had to um reschedule

you know move some stuff around and luckily dan

you were able to fill in for me on altered geek

but um uh very good job filling in for me but

i'm not giving you my spot I'm happy to pinch

in here when I'm needed, but no I so you know

I was I was really It was it was hit and miss

there for a second, but I got things straightened

around and now I'm here and ready to go Awesome

great for those joining us. This is our second

episode and What we'll be doing for today's episode

and hopefully for those are the remainder of

a very long and lucrative Podcast we start with

a look into what we've been walking watching

for the past week. We'll move into Some news

discussion about the big news some look at the

box office and other big stories that are out

there Move into our main attraction. We were

this week. We'll be discussing Paul Greengrass's

newest film captain Phillips Then we transition

to coming attractions The theater releases and

upcoming dvd and blu -ray releases and we'll

finish with our credit conversation We will discuss

our last week's question about theater food and

how you handle that and we'll Introduce a new

question for next week that will hopefully get

great feedback on so to start off today, we will

be uh discussing what we've been watching in

the past week. So who would like to start and

kind of go over what a film they've saw in the

past week that they feel warrants some discussion?

You know, I'll jump in here because mine's probably

gonna be really short. I started to watch Shaun

of the Dead on HBO. And I've seen it before,

but, you know, I... I usually when I'm just in

the house by myself and my wife's at work I like

to put something on the TV just to watch and

lately Netflix has been letting me down so I've

been jumping over to HBO Go and they had Shaun

of the Dead on there and I watched like half

of it before I got up and went and did something

else. But I really like that movie. I like Simon

Pegg and Nick Frost and Edgar Wright. I'm you

know, it kind of comes back to you know, they

just did world's end this last summer that wrapped

up the trilogy of Shaun of the Dead hot fuzz

and I mean I got I got halfway through and it's

just it's it's a really good Zombie movie, I

think but Wow, that's about all I've got I mean

cuz I I was gonna make a point to since we started

doing this to at least watch a movie off either

like on Netflix or something just just so I have

something to talk about here and Just this last

week has been so crazy. I haven't had time to

watch a complete movie Yeah, I mean, I understand.

I mean, Charlie the Dead is I that is a great

film. And like it's one of those that's honestly

rewatchable because there's so much to that movie,

even like in the background that you don't even

notice like that. That opening of like that film

is you see the inner workings of the zombie movie

coming into play and how it handles that and

how how smart that movie is. I think like Edgar

Wright to me, like his films along with like

the Coen brothers. are those films that you have

to watch multiple viewings to really understand

all the jokes that are in there. Because he makes

a point of writing the script and then writing

it backwards. So there are a lot of jokes that

pay off at the beginning on a rewatch. They wouldn't

on the first time viewing. And I think you really

notice that. It makes it more rewarding when

you even go back and watch it on, even if it's

just on cable, because it's so... Deep and jokes

and cleverness that it's just a great film, especially

now with Halloween coming along. It's a perfect

opportunity to, you know, check that out. Yeah,

I mean, I, I just I finished spaced the TV, the

the British TV series that he did in the late

90s. I don't know if either of you have seen

that. I have not. I've always wanted to, but

I've checked it out. Yeah, it's it's Simon Pegg

and Nick Frost again. Obviously, it's Edgar Wright.

It's only 12 episodes, I think. the whole thing

or it's either this really big number right it's

either 12 or 24 because it's a British series

but it only went for two seasons and a lot of

some stuff and some stuff in Shaun of the Dead

was funnier having seen Spaced recently because

they you know the group that he runs that they

run into when they're trying to make their way

to the Winchester Yeah, that's like the opposite

group of them. Yeah, the opposite group of them.

The leader of that opposite group is his roommate

in Spaced. Oh, OK. And that's and some of the

dialogue that they they exchanged earlier on

in the movie is kind of like a play on Spaced

and like what they've been doing. They kind of

have like it's kind of they're kind of talking

to each other and the back. the background tone

to it is talking about whether or not the tv

show is going to kind of air again or what they've

been doing since the tv show went off the air

um so like there's the subtext of them playing

the characters from space but having a conversation

that those two would actually have in the movie

um and that that was fun to actually to actually

see that but that's uh that's pretty much all

i've been watching this week i was going to try

and watch minority report on blu -ray because

i do have that um i got as far as taking the

shrink wrap off of it That's the first step,

right? Yeah, it's the first step, right? And

then I went and did something else. I have many

Blue Rays that I have yet to do that, and I've

run my shows for a couple years now, and I still

have shrink wrap on them. How about you, Kevin?

Anything you would like to... anything you've

done in the past week? This is going to sound

like a weird episode, I guess, but for those

of you that aren't aware of my personal situation,

I basically have been living out of a hotel five...

days a week for the last about two months. So

really I've been on kind of a weird schedule

because the time that I do get home it's like

a mad marathon to try to free up as much DVR

space as possible on TV shows so that then the

five days that I'm going to be gone I can actually

record stuff without running out of space. So

yeah, I really haven't had much of a chance to

do much movie watching. But that's all changing

now because my hotel life is over. I'm back living

in my own home seven days a week So my movie

habits will go back to how they usually are during

the year So I really outside of our main attraction

this week I wasn't able to watch hardly anything

except for what I watched on my DVR to free up

space Which was all just regular TV shows. Yeah,

I did a lot of TV show watching too So but I

promise everybody that We will have more movie

talk in the future because I usually do see more

than that. And I have some, like you said, some

DVDs and some Blu -rays that are in shrink wrap

still that I would like to give a watch to for

the first time on that format. So when I don't

go out to see an extra movie in the theater,

I'll try to be sure to do some of those so we

have some stuff to talk about. Yeah, the good

thing about watching movies and doing this podcast

is when you're watching them, you don't feel

like you're just watching a movie. You're also

doing research. So you feel ultimately productive.

But I do have a few things I want to touch upon

real quick. If you listen to the old geek episode

that I hit for earlier this week, I discussed

a film that I kind of gave a little preview of

a movie I was going to talk about that I watched

earlier that day, which was Josh Whedon's latest

film, Much Ado About Nothing. You know, Josh

Whedon, of course, who's infamous for, you know,

the Avengers, Buffy, Firefly, all that. I'm a

self. I'm not a huge, I'm not a Josh Whedon fan

or hater. I just haven't really experienced much.

Like I've never watched Buffy or any of his television

shows really. I've seen Serenity. I've obviously

seen the Avengers. Probably the only other thing

I've experienced was his run on the Sonic the

X -Men. But the much ado about nothing is obviously

his interpretation of the famous flame shakespeare

player bill shakespeare for his friends It is

pretty much the polar as much polar opposite

as you can get from the avengers as possible

It's I think believe he shot it over a weekend

or at his house. It appears um It takes place

during present day. It's similar to the Romeo

and Juliet movie with, you know, Baz Luhrmann's

Romeo and Juliet that takes the dialogue of William

Shakespeare and places it into a present setting.

It's the same thing. It's a little bit different

though in the way that it is completely unstylized.

It's black and white. It's very cheap and you

can tell. Overall, I did like it. Somehow the

actors... And many of them are, if you're a Weeding

fan, you'll recognize a lot of them. People like

Clark Reag, ancient Colson, Nathan Fillion, Amy

Ecker, Frank, other people that you've seen in

Josh Weeding films. Their personality does really

work well with the Shakespeare subtext and the

dry wet of much of that play. It does kind of

though wear its budget on its sleeve It's obviously

that it is a very cheap film and in some ways

it feels more like a TV special than an actual

movie or like a student film or an experiment

just because it is you know based into it's all

taking place in this one house and the the black

and white cinematographer doing it in black and

white I think was more of a choice to try to

hide just how basic it looks And some of the

actors or are good, but they're not great when

it When you get some of those more prolific Shakespeare

diatribes, they're not as good at handling those

or some of the darker moments. But when it's

being humorous or being witty, it's great. Any

time it times to go down to the more serious

route, it's a little hammy and not as strong.

But if you're a Wieden fan or if you love Shakespeare,

think of all the adaptations that have come out

recently. I think it's probably one of the better

ones that I've seen. Personally, but actually

quite an interest in that film what you do about

nothing. Oh, I do I haven't had a chance to see

yet But I actually have a collection of all I'm

a huge Shakespeare fan I actually took a class

strictly just on Shakespeare in college once

and I collect all the different adaptations whether

it be You know straight Shakespeare or the more

modern -day adaptations, so I'll definitely be

picking that up and watching it at some time

I Thought I'm also interested in Romeo and Juliet,

which is currently playing in the theater What

kind of take that is on it. So yeah, I'm a big

fan. I just haven't had a chance to see it yet.

If you're a big Shakespeare fan, I would love

because I myself, I'm not well versed in the

world of Shakespeare. So I would be kind of interested

in seeing how well it really handles that material.

So I really can't give an insight into that.

And that's one of them. That particular play

is actually one that I specifically studied a

little bit. So I'm definitely interested in seeing

that. I've seen another version of it. I mean,

not that there's only been one. There's been.

There's so many versions that people don't realize

are adaptations of Shakespeare stuff, because

they disguise it more. Examples? Off the top

of my head, now you're going to put me on the

spot. But I'd really have to check my DVD shelf,

because I'm not big on titles. But there is some

that... That they don't advertise it as such

and it doesn't have like the straight name like

much do about nothing or Romeo and Juliet And

they just are titled something else. I mean like,

you know, oh brother. We're out thou in a way

is an adaptation of Shakespeare Lion King, isn't

that supposed to be an adaptation of Hamlet people

say? Yeah, I don't buy that one quite as much

But there are ones out there that disguise it

more and there's I'm trying to think of the one

that specifically is much ado about nothing And

I can't think of it. So I'm gonna have to get

back to you on that. Ray finds just like his

first director The first film he directed that

the guy who plays probably most famously plays

Voldemort in the Harry Potter movies He his first

movie he directed was probably pronouncing this

wrong, but Colonel Colonel anus or I forget but

uh, that too was an adaptation of oh, yeah And

that one too takes place in modern times. I wasn't

a huge fan of that one as much it just it I don't

know. I just couldn't, that, because that's very

much taking, because it's very political and

more war -based and taking some of that dialogue

and placing it into the common today's time period

didn't work as well for me. But since with Much

Ado About Nothing is a very basic story and it's

really just human drama and you can do it in

the house because it all takes place in really

confined settings and it's really about the characters,

not necessarily about the story. For the most

part at least the way that was printed in that

movie So I would say if you know, not when I

would recommend buying but a rental it's on it's

in runbacks right now So it's worth a dollar

I remember seeing the the Denzel Washington one

and I think I saw that in That one must have

been in high school that I saw that with Denzel

Washington and Keanu Reeves So it'd be interesting

to compare the two and watch them rewatch that

one right before I watch this newer one Yeah,

so hopefully maybe coming up. We'll hear what

you have to say about that one. The next one

I wanted to talk about I'll be brief because

I'll be running a review for this one is This

this past year. We've had a huge influx of like

coming of age stories there was mud The kings

of summer and the one I want to talk about right

now is the way way back It's written and directed

by neat fraction and Jim rash Those community

fans will recognize those names, fans of the

television show community. They're also the writers

of The Descendants. The movie that came out a

few years ago was nominated for for best picture.

I think they actually won for screenplay. I think

Jim Ratch is the famous for his role at the Academy

Awards, the one when he did the Angelina Jolie

leg maneuver that became pretty interesting.

But what The Way Way Back is about, it's about

this kid who is Spending the summer with his

family his mother his mother's new boyfriend

played by Steve Carrell and his step not stepsister,

but it's the daughter of Steve Carrell and You

know, it's kind of a new relationship. They're

still kind of figuring each other out and he

is I guess you'd say he's like a wallflower that

Lee and James plays the main character and He's

very quiet. He's kind of You know you keep blinking

you miss some type of guy kind of just soaks

in the background doesn't say much but he has

a huge conflict with Steve Carell's character

who is kind of a He's a jerk. He's a huge jerk

and Steve Carell plays that part really. Well,

I'm quite a corral fan and His he it makes sense

that he can play that role because his character

Michael Scott in the office is he can be humorous,

but he just turn a dial a little bit he's really

kind of a conniving evil person and this is the

same he really he plays a lot of mind games with

liam james and there's he he's trying to kind

of take control and almost like uh subserve his

relationship with his mother but overall i i

did enjoy the film a great deal there's a just

cast is solid all the way through alice and janie

from the west wing plays this really crazy neighbor

it's kind of an alcoholic um Sam Rockwell who

I love is great as like he becomes he works at

this water park. He's kind of the reminded me

a lot of Matthew McConaughey in Oh, I just It

just slipped my mind the coming of age film from

early 90s. Oh I can't think of it right now,

but days and confused days and confused exactly

his characters similar in the way that he's kind

of this older guy who was kind of a fly by the

seat of your pants type of character, but he's

a little bit deeper. But it's a really good story.

It's coming to DVD and Blu -ray shortly. It's

got a really heart to it. What I liked about

it too, the way it's set up, it's a movie that

can take place today, or it could have taken

place like 20 or 30 years ago. It's a timeless

tale in how they put everything together. And

like I said, the cast is really strong. And I'm

a sucker for coming of age tales. I don't think

it's as good as The Descendants. The Descendants,

it's one of those movies that I think is a really

great movie that I would never want to watch

again just because it is so depressing. Way,

way back is when I would probably watch and repeat.

And if I were to compare it to like The Kings

of Summer, which came out earlier this year,

or Mud, I don't think it's as good as either

of those two films, but it's really solid. And

we're getting a lot of great coming of age movies

that kind of, it was a genre that was kind of

going away last year with something like Perks

of the Wallflower. And this year with this and

there's also the spectacular now, which I haven't

seen yet, but I've heard a lot of great things

about it. Just some reason it's coming back in

full force. And I enjoy it because I love that

type of storytelling. So, um. Has have either

of you seen the movie Safety Not Guaranteed?

I have, yes. No, I have not. I really like that

movie. I was just trying to think it's because

I don't. Did you write a review about it? Didn't

know I watched it by the time I saw it was already

out for a long time But uh, yeah, I do like it

does have a similar feel to that film like just

Just with but yeah, anyways, we were saying No,

I was just I was just trying to think of a way

to just you know to To you know point people

at other movies and stuff that were that were

good And I thought safety not guarantee was a

movie that I watched this year. That was good

and it's also available on Netflix watch instant

right now so if you like time travel or anything

like that I mean it's not explicitly time travel

it's more about the idea of time travel but the

premise of it is pretty good plus it has Nick

from new girl in it yeah Jake Johnson who I'm

a huge fan of hilarious sorry I was thinking

of before I was On the wrong track because i

was thinking of uh 10 things i hate about you

but that's teaming in the shoe it's not much

to do about that i was gonna bring that up too

So my bad on that Yeah, so i would also recommend

if you haven't seen the kings of summer too that

i've i've watched it a while ago so didn't get

a chance to talk about that here but I think

the performance isn't that a little stronger

than the one here the the main performance the

kid who is in this he's okay He he doesn't have

much to do his performances. You know, it's it

does what he does what he needs to do, but it's

nothing Outstanding, but if I would definitely

recommend seeing that along with the other films

I saw recommended seeing Earlier, but pretty

much. That's what we've been watching for for

this This week anything else before we move on

to our next segment All right, we will go to

a little break here and then we'll come back

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MLIR Weekly. To start off the news segment this

week, we're just going to take a dive into this

past weekend's box office and see what came up

on top, what were the flops, and what are the

trends going on right now. The biggest trend,

of course, is that our disk of manufacturing

for last week, Gravity, maintains the top spot

again this week with a weekend gross of about

$44 million, which is pretty incredible when

you consider it's only a 20 % change from last

week. And it has a total gross of over $123 million

just at... at at this time which i think has

already surpassed its budget uh... which is to

me is a great sign in the fact that and it's

getting so much water math it's only if i think

it's gonna rain supreme for a few weekends to

come i thought it was interesting that it held

such an advantage over captain phillips i thought

there might be a little bit more uh... little

more str - i thought captain phillips had closed

the gap a little bit but it's it dominated it

Well, I'm wondering how much that is word -of

-mouth and like we talked about last week where

people went to see it despite the trailer and

they're going and showing people that may not

have liked it because of the trailer that no,

that's not what it is Yeah, we kind of said that

that might be something that happens with this

movie where you know You did have that huge influx

of people originally, but there might have been

some people staring clear that now that they've

heard There you know, they chose to see that

on that second weekend So yeah, I thought it

was interesting. I mean, I don't think anybody

would have predicted anything besides those two

being number one and two Claudia with a chance

of meatballs still It's it's third week and it's

still kind of holding way above all the other

ones not a huge surprise because of animated

movies and their longevity in the big screen,

but uh, I do find it interesting that the only

Film that was returning that had an increase

over last week was despicable me, too had almost

a 5 % increase over last week. And that's its

15th week in the theater. I guess right now there's

not a huge amount out there for families. Besides,

if you've already seen Cloudy with the Chance

of Meatballs 2, if that's still playing, maybe

you go see that again. Plus with kids' films,

you get that return. A lot of return audience,

because kids love to see things of repeat viewing,

unlike You know adults for the most part, but

that is kind of interesting thing though is is

right next to it though as monsters university

It was only so despicable me is in its 15th week

and monsters is in its 17th Despicable me has

five percent increase in monsters university

almost a twelve percent twelve and a half percent

decrease Yeah, but and it's interesting that

uh despicable me still in more theaters right

now than monsters university So it still has

a more lasting appeal. I think then I think monsters

university just didn't it didn't grab kids it

doesn't have like, you know, the Despicable Me

2 has the minions and has like a thing can grab

kids on like Monsters University It was more

of a the thing about that I think really hit

the zeitgeist for kids unlike unlike that film

What's the biggest disappointment this weekend?

I don't know if it's a disappointment per se

but machete kills made less than the original

machete and only came in about Almost four million

with three point seven million dollars this pack

this past weekend, which is Actually a few million

less than the original machete which came out

actually in August so that could also be a big

factor to that I I don't know. I don't know if

that's necessarily a disappointment But I'm certain

I'm certain they would hope that would make more

because usually with a sequel as you're thinking

Your revenue is gonna increase and not decrease

Another one, you know runner runner drops down

to fifth place this week, which was in third

last week It made a little bit less than a little

bit only about you know 40 000 less than uh machete

kills with 3 .7 million as well but that has

a total gross of 14 million which actually almost

a 50 go ahead i just saying almost a 50 drop

for runner runner and for rush Yeah, we would

just go back to Captain Phillips real quick though.

It only came in second place only made 26 million

actually made more This weekend then Argo did

I believe which came out around the same time?

It's actually it has a higher theater in had

a higher opening weekend than Argo What one thing

I do love though seeing this box office is the

fact that two adult dramas are number one and

number two And not only two adult dramas, but

two adult really good movies are number one and

number two. And I think that's a good sign. I

think that's a good sign of things to come. I

love it when we see critically acclaimed films

or films that I feel like are good movies doing

well in the box office. Yes, they're not making

Avengers money, but they're doing really well

considering that they're fan base. As far as

budgets go, most of these films are making back

their budget or far surpassing it. Rush, however,

it's going to take about two months. of it doing

exactly what it did this weekend in order for

it to get to its budget. Is anyone looking forward

to the Gravity 2 sequel? It's going to be amazing.

It's going to be the one that takes place underwater.

I thought that was the avatar. I think Russia

is probably going to do really well overseas

just because Indycar Racing is such an even bigger

overseas than it is here. I can see that cleaning

up. I don't know if it's been released overseas

yet, but. I think similar to Pacific Rim that

I think gets at to its subject matter is more

appealing to different cultures. I think that's

the case with Rush. But yeah, anything else about

the overall box office for this week? Nothing

hugely surprising besides Gravity reigning supreme

again. Yeah, not too much for me that I'm seeing

that's jumping out at me. Kind of somewhat of

a predictable besides how much Gravity was in

the lead was the only thing that surprised me.

Yeah, and had 3d taking place and pricing probably

is it it's a big factor for that though Captain

Phillips was an IMAX too, so Really? Yeah, I

saw it in an IMAX. Oh, we didn't we kept we kept

gravity in the IMAX at my theater I was surprised

it was when I bought my tickets. I'm like wait.

This is an IMAX Why is gravity? It's not still

they had gravity in 3d able to put Captain Phillips

in but I think was a mistake not because Captain

Phillips is a bad movie, but just because I think

that format fits gravity a lot more than does

Captain Phillips. It doesn't add as much to that

movie as it does. Did they split the times or

did they not have gravity in IMAX anymore? They

just did not have it in IMAX anymore. Anything

else before we can move on to the movie news

for this week? I'm pretty well set. All right,

we'll pass the mic over to our in -house newsman,

Kevin Optimus Solo, and he'll take it away. We

got all kinds of geeky things in our headlines

this week, starting with a favorite geek topic

here, Star Wars. A couple different Star Wars

things hitting the news wires this week. First

of all, there was one thing that broke news that

there was going to be imminent Title and casting

news revealed very soon about the next installment

on the Star Wars franchise That was broken kind

of early on in the week that we were gonna eventually

see something on either the title of the movie

or some confirmations on cast members I haven't

really seen anything yet, but there was an article

that did rumor some possible titles for the next

installment and the two that were thrown out

there I'm not saying any of these are gonna actually

be the name but They're the first two rumored

titles for the film, and that's Rise of the Jedi

and Return of the Sith. Obviously, those sound

like we've heard them before, variations on titles

that we have definitely heard before. Do either

one of those titles resonate with you guys, or

do you think that's just rumor mill fodder that's

never going to come to fruition as far as those

two titles go? What I find interesting about

the titles is that almost based on the titles,

those titles seem like they would be two opposite

movies. You know rise of the Jedi return of the

Sith it seems like they would Just you know,

I couldn't see them coexisting with each other

coexisting with one another But well said that

they both point to obviously the continued battle

between the Jedi's and the Sith Lord There is

speculation that this movie is gonna focus on

Luke and Leia's children So I don't know how

those would kind of go into those kind of the

article kind of points out too that that would

kind of break the mold as far as the first titles

of the films of the other two trilogies because

the other ones had more you know titles based

on the concepts with phantom menace and a new

hope where it was the other ones that we had

kind of these more generic names from what i'm

when i can remember right or from what i've been

hearing i think i think right to the jedi would

make sense as if it seems like they're going

to get into that whole jedi academy and try to

look trying to bring bring back the jedis but

Well, if you think about it though, if you go

off of the original trilogy in episode 4, 5,

and 6, I think either title does make sense because

you have... You know Luke and everything destroying

the Emperor and then destroying that part of

it so return of the Sith would make sense You

know depending on how many years were going in

the future that now they're gonna finally make

a comeback After this huge defeat that they've

suffered in episode 6 and rise of the Jedi would

also make sense because you know the Jedi had

been kind of you know scattered across the universe

and then hiding and you know not a big presence

so them rising up as a more of a united body

like we saw in the episode one two one two three

i can see them both making sense i think there

is no the center take back there's only the only

one that doesn't want the new trilogy to have

anything to do with the land on i kind of don't

want there to be a neutrality honestly i just

i'd just i'd do only because that's the trilogy

i wanted in the first place i would be much would

rather than do episodes seven eight nine Instead

of when they decided to do one two and three

I more so wanted to see seven eight nine It would

have made more sense then because of the age

of the actors could have played You know, it

would have made more of a You know, it was 30

years after they 20 to 30 years after they'd

done the original film. So I mean I mean we never

would have gotten Hayden Christensen I like everything

I hear about what's going on with like the pre

-production and stuff like that for the new trilogy

is just whenever someone's like oh you know Mark

Hamill's coming back or you know Harrison Ford

I'm like I don't why like I there's to me like

don't get me wrong I like I like four five and

six um just as much as everybody else does and

I I like the last half of episode two and the

first half of episode three. Other than that,

the rest of the prequel trilogy is garbage. I

love the last 45 minutes of episode three. Well,

the only problem I have with episode three is

after the halfway point, the way I kind of explain

it to my friends and people that I talk about

this with is that they sat down to watch dailies

with George while this movie was being filmed.

And they saw the first half of the movie and

they're like, wow, this is really cool. Except

none of it matches up with episode four. And

then the last half of that movie became, OK,

now the ships have to change and this needs to

happen and that needs to happen. Everything else

needs to happen. And so much stuff just happens

so fast in the last half of that movie to just

so that it has the correct connective tissue

to episode four that it just feels all wrong.

Like I felt like. Episode two should have been

episode one and episode three should have been

episode two and we should have gotten another

Entire episode with Darth Vader Just so the stuff

had like the right pacing because all of a sudden

like the interiors of all the ships became like

the interiors of all the ships for episode four

like Like they flipped a switch and now everything

looked like episode four. It was just there is

There's a fantastic YouTube video a series of

videos that this guy does and I Wish I could

think of the YouTube user name right now, but

he basically retails He's like this is how episode

one is it is it? Oh my gosh. I know the guy I

think oh, I know a guy that does it. It's um,

what if episode one was good? Something like

that. I mean this one's not like it's not there

is one out there That's like a huge like 80 90

minute type thing This one's like I want to say

like 10 maybe 10 to 20 minutes and he had done

Episode one version quite a long time ago. Yep.

He just did episode 2 this year. It's called

it's called belated media I'll put a link in

the show notes Yeah, it's excellent like everything

he says makes sense and he hasn't done episode

three yet No, but it basically the the twist

of what he was saying is that the entire prequel

trilogy should have revolved around Obi -Wan

and not Anakin and That the biggest mistake they

ever made was killing off Darth Maul in the first

episode, right? And I completely I yeah, I watched

these videos and I completely agree with everything

that he's saying I was like just give this guy

the reins the franchise. But no, I don't know.

I'm excited for it. I mean, obviously I'll see

them, but it's just I don't know. I liked I like

the Clone Wars series. And some of that stuff

is like, like, I feel like you can do other things

with the Star Wars universe and they don't have

to revolve around that core group of people and

it can still be good like. I really like the

rumor that was Zack Snyder's Jedi movie that

was kind of revolving, like a seven samurai type

thing, but with Jedi. Like, I liked that rumor.

Keep in mind, the other thing is that there's

supposed to be a Star Wars movie every year after

episode seven hits. Every year or every other

year, I think they were saying. No, it's every

there's a numbered one every other year, but

there's a side story. Oh, gotcha, yeah, yeah.

On the off years, so we still have yet to hear

anything about that stuff. Not trying to go way

off, but you mentioned the Clone Wars and they

did just reveal the first picture, first character

image from the new Star Wars cartoon that's going

to be debuting here, I believe next year. Rebels?

Yeah, and they showed the main antagonist there.

It was an interesting image, but that's not about

movies. For those of you that are more of the

classic fans and you don't want to hear too much

about the new stuff. I found this interesting.

I haven't picked, I didn't know these existed,

but I might want to pick them up and read about

these. JW Rinsler apparently has written kind

of behind the scenes books on the first, the

original two Star Wars movies, New Hope and Empire

Strikes Back, and he just released his book on

return of the Jedi, kind of coinciding with the

30th anniversary. Apparently it's all kind of

behind -the -scenes information and stuff you

never knew and just from the article I read there

was some interesting stuff Talks about a complete

rehaul of the ending that was done Which was

apparently originally was supposed to climax

with the rebels taking over the Death Star and

using it to destroy the Emperor's lair on some

type of Lava laden planet Weird how we got one

of those later on How producers wanted Han Solo

to die and how the Ewoks were basically not involved

as much as we got to see them. Some weird behind

the scenes stuff about dressing room ongoing

ons. I don't want to go into detail on that,

just in case there's anyone, any kids listening.

And just kind of all kind of interesting stuff.

Other people that were interested in directing,

Tony Scott, John Carpenter, David Lynch. Some

high -profile actors who almost secured roles

So apparently Ben Kingsley was turned down for

Emperor Palpatine Apparently Alan Rickman was

up for Admiral Gergerod So so it looks like there's

a lot of interesting tidbits in this book and

I might have to check out the other two that

he wrote Any thoughts on that? Am I the only

Star Wars nerd amongst us? No, I I'm I mean,

I'm a Star Wars nerd. I just don't know I I mean

It's interesting, but I find I have a hard time

getting into books I do like all the behind -the

-scenes stuff like there was it started to keep

going off on the tangents, but the I have the

What was it when episode one or four or five

and six came out on? DVD in like 2004 yeah, there

was a really cool It's like a 90 -minute behind

-the -scenes documentary of like all things Star

Wars That is completely absent from the blu -ray

edition of the movie like it's the one special

feature They left out of the blu -ray packaging.

I'm with you I much would rather watch like documentaries

or DVD features about kind of the behind -the

-scenes stuff and then read a book I'm not against

reading books, but I'm not either. I'm just But

I would much rather see it in DVD form and actually

hear the people and see the people talking about

it and roundtable discussions and stuff like

that Dan, any thoughts on the Star Wars books?

I mean, it'd be interesting just to get that

perspective. I'm always for juicy gossip, I guess.

I'm curious what the wardrobe stuff was. I'm

guessing a lot of Leia's slave costume stories.

Oh, more so dressing room stuff that was going

on in people's dressing rooms and stuff like

that. There you go. I'm guessing most of those

involve Han Solo himself. But I'd be interested

in picking it up just to see. movie history and

there are some movie books I really like so I'm

not a huge Star Wars nerd but finding out some

of the back behind the scenes stuff is always

kind of cool since that behind the scenes of

the Star Wars films is pretty legendary yeah

alright let's keep the geek trend going here

apparently a writer has just been hired to take

on take over the helms of a new Masters of the

Universe movie Being brought to us by Columbia

apparently and Terry Razio, I don't know if I'm

saying that name right Has been hired as the

latest screenwriter to take a crack at the material

that you a lot of people were Probably used to

hearing the name John Chu Who had been tied to

this project for a while? I remember hearing

about it quite a ways back. Apparently he no

longer is involved and now this other Terry Razio

is taking the Helms here So it might be something

we're gonna be seeing here in the next few years

possibly if they get their stuff together What

do we need a Masters of the Universe movie? I'm

trying to figure out where the interest in this

comes from. I mean besides the obvious You know

guys our age But like is there even like a Masters

of the Universe like cartoon right now like not

currently not since that 2002 slash 3 cartoon

why i'm interested in what why this is coming

about when there's nothing to go along with it

needed a perfectly the first time the first one

is so that it's good uh... i think that's the

only reason that i'm somewhat interested because

i feel like they could actually make it nowadays

and it was somewhat work i think the interest

is the kind of what we talked about last week

uh... there's such an interest in the fantasy

slash supernatural genre uh... in any type of

epic type films people are trying to grab onto,

you know, whether it be like what we talked about

with Harry Potter and Twilight and the Hunger

Games and all these different things. I know

that's kind of a completely different audience

they'd be talking to. But it seems like anything

that's going to be bigger than, you know, bigger

than life as far as movies people are trying

to flock to and grab onto. So maybe this is just

another one that they see they can do that and

speak to the kids that are now grown up. were

kids when this was popular, I don't know. But

at least they could maybe do it more believable

than the first one. Well, that's what I'm getting

at, though. The three things that you that you

well, you know, a couple of things that you mentioned,

which was Harry Potter, you know, Twilight Hunger

Games, all of those stuff, they were like riding

the wave of the book or like something like there's

what I'm what I'm just saying is right now there's

Masters of the Universe is even like in. Outside,

like our demographic, it's not even like a thing

right now. Yeah, like that's what I'm saying.

Where's the momentum driving? I would assume

it would have to be a whole project where they

do the typical, we're going to do another, a

new cartoon, we're going to do a new toy line

and all this other nonsense and it would be kind

of like a throw all our eggs in one basket and

hope it works. They're going to create the vehicle

for this? I mean, I don't know. You could look

at like, they could probably look at the fact

that Transformers is doing well, that's based

upon an 80s cartoon. Obviously that that has

cartoons going currently, but they also could

see like hey smurfs did amazingly Well, that's

based up an 80s cartoon and movie studios are

looking for anything that has any name recognition

whatsoever silver halls Gijo had nothing going

for it when the movie came out either really

I thought I had like a couple cart like there

was a relaunch of the cartoon and stuff It was

after the movie started So that's what I'm saying

they might try to I don't know if they're putting

you know Well, I guess the horse before the wagon,

but there's no but there's never stopped being

GI Joe toys No, that's true and transformers

toys, too. I mean it's But I mean, I don't know.

I don't know the last time I actually went to

the store and looked for a No, there's none.

There hasn't been any he there's the classics

line that's out but nobody would know about that

except for actual collectors and and fandoms,

you're not going to see it on the store shelf.

And I think maybe that's why this project hasn't

gone anywhere as of this point. Because this

rumor has been flying around for, as far as a

Masters in the Universe movie, for at least two

or three years, if not longer. I know there was

a different version that was back in like mid

-2000s that was rumored. Then that kind of got

killed. Then this one started up. And it hasn't

gone anywhere yet. So maybe your point is, you

know, Right on the dot there. I'm not trying

to poo poo masters of the universe. I'm free

I had like like I said, I had all the toys when

I was growing up and I have but see I have no

nostalgia for the old stuff So I'm pretty sure

if this thing ever happens. I will go and see

it It's just you know, like I guess I guess I

try to play devil's advocate to some of this

stuff But you know, like we could have a discussion

about why is this showing up now? Recently who

knows I would it seems more plausible like they

are doing obviously with the with the Teenage

Mutant Ninja Turtles because there is the current

cartoon Going on you know there are the toys

on the shelves So it makes more sense for that

franchise to be going to the movie theater like

it is Then what you're talking about like with

the Masters of the universe. I think that's a

good point So all right another piece of news

going on here. We talked about gravity last week.

There's some further reaction now that it's been

so popular. Of course with anything so popular,

people are going to come out of the woodwork

with their take on it or their reviews or their

criticisms of it. Most recently I saw an article

about astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson. if

I'm saying that name right, who had some things

that he was talking about. I didn't want to bring

up his whole ordeal because I think he's a little

bit off his rocker. But as far as some of the

little nuances that he brings up, I thought it

would be interesting to kind of point those out.

Some things that he said were wrong with the

film. He said first of all, Sandra Bullock's

character, a medical doctor, would never be asked

to service a spacecraft. He also said that the

Hubble telescope International Space Station

and Chinese Space Station would never be in each

other's line of sight. He questioned why Sandra

Bullock's hair didn't float away from her face

as it would in actual zero gravity. He talked

about the movement of space debris. He said it

should have floated west to east instead of east

to west. So he had a whole list of stuff that

he was trying to point out that was wrong with

the film. That being said, I still think the

film did a pretty good job of getting a lot of

stuff right that most Other space films haven't

like we talked about last year with the sound

or last week with the sound and stuff like that.

So I don't know. I just found it interesting

to point that stuff out. I don't it doesn't take

away from my viewing of the movie. What about

you, Dan? Oh, well, I'm a huge I actually really

like Neil deGrasse Tyson. He has the podcast

to start talking. He's a very intelligent. He

knows way more about that stuff than I do. I

don't have an issue with it. I think people misinterpreted

what he was trying to do because he's done similar

things with other movies like he's talked about

Titanic and how the stars and that are incorrect

and he does that a lot I think more so because

he likes to talk about science and he's seeing

something where he can begin this conversation

like famously he's the one that headed the movement

to kind of degrade Pluto from now no longer be

considering a planet, but he's a really funny

and guy And I think he's not being as nearly

as serious as some of these articles are making

them out to be I think he just likes to kind

of Poke at things and find out interesting quirks

about them, but it doesn't take away from things

I realized with dramatic like since isn't you're

gonna change some stuff. You're not gonna make

everything correct you know you could yes, you

could probably get a group of scientists and

make everything as factual as possible, but it

may not may also not be all that entertaining.

I don't really watch the NASA channel. I don't

know many people that actually do. I'm pretty

sure watching people in space isn't interesting

for a short amount of time. But I think when

you actually come to a movie, there are certain

licenses you take, certain concedences we're

aware of. And I felt like I was watching something

that really happened in space or things should

things be moving in different directions or OK,

maybe. But I think it's just kind of a much.

going back to start the beginning of the podcast

it's much I do about nothing, pretty much. The

only tweet of his that kind of sat wrong with

me was his one that said why anyone is impressed

with a Zero G film 45 years after being impressed

with 2001 A Space Odyssey is a mystery. Putting

those two movies in the same sentence bothers

me. Well, I fell asleep watching 2001 A Space

Odyssey. I do not like that at all. I did not

fall asleep watching Gravity, so that would be

why I'm impressed. Yeah, but I mean I agree but

that but then again, you know, I was kind of

you know I'm impressed by the zero G that was

in Apollo 13, so What you know, whatever Yeah,

I mean if it wasn't popular no one would be saying

anything about it because it's popular so people

are gonna and don't you mean it's overrated Avatar.

Interesting news here. We might need to put some

of these pictures in the post possibly, but apparently

there is Disney Reels early look at Avatar theme

park in Orlando. James Cameron's World of Pandora

attraction will open in 2017. Fantasy film will

live on as a major attraction at the Animal Kingdom

in Orlando, Florida. Some interesting pictures

that kind of... suggest what it might look like

as you're walking through some epic nighttime

lighting and imagery spectacular I guess with

music and floating things and water screens and

all kinds of stuff as you're kind of going through

this Pandora environment. i've never been to

any of these theme parks because i live a sheltered

life i guess but this if i was in the area and

this was something like this was open i think

i would make it a must that i go and check it

out my first question is is it in 3d only if

you have glasses you got to wear glasses through

the entire part looking at the pictures it does

look pretty cool i it's weird because i don't

know many avatar fans like i get harry potter

because that's a huge fandom but i don't know

many people longing for an avatar theme park

maybe it would be awesome to be there i think

this is something different like yeah i get the

harry potter stuff but i think this is just more

like a safari just bring you like kind of like

you go you go to the harry potter stuff to be

like immersed in the world and you see stuff

that you know right because they they do that

they put like a subtle twist on things and there's

stores that you can go in and stuff but i think

this is just like a think of this more like a

zoo um and something that just like attacks all

of your senses and just like an experience that

you you can't get anywhere else so that's what

it looks like to me i don't know and i'm sure

you know all of it will be because when's the

sequel supposed to come out It down the bottom

of the article says there's one in 2016 2017

in 2018 So this opening right in the middle of

that whether there's a fandom or not. Yeah, who

wants a sequel? James Cameron what what event

in human United States history are they gonna?

We'll save our avatar discussion for another

week moving along with the headlines we're talking

about Michael bay in the opening teaser here

michael bay wanting to direct a horror film Apparently

that is his fantasy to to direct his own self

-financed horror movie I'm not a huge michael

bay fan, but uh, that might be something that

works with him. I mean, well dan How do you think

michael bay and horror mesh? Well, you mean his

production company has been in charge of a lot

of the remakes of the like recent horror films

like the friday the 13th remake and They have

all been awful um really bad um from what i can

remember it's just weird i mean that if he wants

to more compared to michael bay's other films

i would say well yeah even worse than that like

the acting and it's just they're just so cheaply

they're made by people who i think just didn't

understand it he didn't direct it so they can't

blame him for it it was just a production company

but it's just weird because his filmmaking is

so bombastic and so like he can obviously huge

and horror fan horror films are the opposite

of that, um Hey more power to him. Maybe he wants

to try new stuff. I i'm I He won't be able to

rely on most of his you know, uh tired Not not

tired tan techniques, but what he's mostly known

for so if he wants to tackle something like that

Good luck to him. I'd be interested in seeing

it just to see What exactly he could create maybe

he's good. He made me be a good horror director

who knows but I don't know it just it surprises

me somewhat I I don't see it working, but you

never know. Maybe it could work. Was painting

getting good? It was actually, you know what?

I enjoyed it. It was a really dark comedy, more

so than I anticipated. But I don't think it was

on the level of a Bad Boys, but... Like mark

walberg was kind of a dud in that but uh, the

rock was hilarious He was like the best part

of that entire movie and it kind of gets crazy

near the end But I did enjoy that more than I

thought I would I i've been wanting to see I

don't know. I like michael bay I mean, I don't

have I guess it's because i've just always known

what I was going to get with him. I never expected

anything more than Spectacle from his movies.

So it's kind of like if he does anything that

The way I feel is if he does anything that even

gets me a little bit to emote a little bit Then

he's done something extraordinary like for him

for him He has done something extraordinary because

otherwise I just expect flash and spectacle Which

is one of the reasons why I was never disappointed

by the Transformers movies outside of the second

one And I'm a huge bad boys fan. I even like

the second one up to a point But I'm hoping like

the rumors of bad boys 3 are true, but I know

I like horror movies I really do I can't stand

like horror video games or anything like that

But I can watch a horror movie as long as you

know like it like I said with the prisoners thing

that there's no flashlights or mirrors I can

I can handle them pretty well Depending on what

you know I guess you say horror film and there's

so many different types of horror films so uh...

i'd find it interesting to see what way he would

go the one with stuff explodes obviously this

is not something like that but uh... uh... uh...

uh... uh... uh... uh... news article that came

out this last week about the fifth state uh...

controversial film about wikileaks founder julian

assange i'm saying every name wrong probably

today i think that's right actually apparently

the film has a major hater and it's uh... assange

himself uh... apparently he wrote a letter to

uh... cover batch explaining why i don't know

why this is i guess it's what this news story

is just uh... breaking out because of the movie

coming out soon because it says the letters from

january And then he says to Cumberbatch, I believe

you're a good person, but I do not believe that

this film is a good film. I believe that it's

going to be overwhelmingly negative for me and

the people I care about. It is based on a deceitful

book by someone who has a vendetta against me

and my organization. It's pretty evident that

he he started out with good intentions and then

went crazy. So I'm not surprised that he thinks

his movie is out to destroy him. But. Yeah, I

don't know. To me, it seems like every film that

comes out about something based on true life

has somebody that's involved with something that

comes out against it seems to be a trend this

year, especially with jobs. Now at the fifth

estate and even with our main attraction today

Captain Phillips Anything based on real life

somebody that was involved in that story who

has a different viewpoint seems to be Trying

to make the most of it or at least coming into

the public's pokes eye and trying to grab some

attention Whether they're right or wrong. I'm

not saying they're all wrong, but Seems to be

a weird trend this year. I think two people go

searching for them and then You know they they

get these stories like you mentioned this is

from on january and now they're kind of re -releasing

it with a film You know coming out and I don't

I doubt the film mat met like minds it I think

the film the people who made it probably love

it because it's you know Free publicity for them

and the more he talks about how much he hates

it. The better it is, you know, but uh, because

it's interesting like he's actually like uh,

you know stuck in uh An embassy right now. He's

been like stuck there for, I don't know, maybe

over a year or so. So he's he I don't know if

he could even see the movie because he can't

get to a movie theater. Maybe they'll send him

a screener. All right. Michael, any thoughts

on that one? No, I mean, I like Benedict Cumberbatch.

I mean, I don't really I know what was going

on. I don't know much about him. The thing with

me and news and politics is that I try to. Stay

away from stuff that doesn't that I either know

next to nothing about or that doesn't I don't

feel directly involves me Like I I know of you

know Wikileaks because you know it's spread all

over Twitter and stuff like that and I know like

who he is but I don't know like where he went

or what kind of person he is I haven't really

watched anything about it or anything like that,

but I I do want to see this movie because I do

like seeing those things. Like one of my favorite

movies from a few years ago was The Social Network.

And, you know, as overblown or not as that movie

may or may not be, I really enjoy that movie

just as a movie. So, I mean, I'm not saying the

Fifth Estate is going to be the same thing because

I don't think Bill Condon is the same thing as

Fincher. But, you know. Whenever I'm well, I'm

pretty sure we'll be talking about it for sure

and the last headline for today Here we go coming

coming soon possibly in 2016 Should have known

this was coming Angry Birds movie. Can someone

explain to me the appeal of Angry Birds? I've

never played it so I don't know. I've never played

it either. I Just thought it notable to bring

up as far as the people that were to that kind

of tapped to direct Fergal Riley and Clay Katus.

Riley was a storyboard artist on Hotel Transylvania,

Cloudy with a chance of meatballs, and Spider

-Man 2, but this will be his first directing

gig. And Katus would also be his first directing

gig. He was an animator on Frozen, Wreck -It

Ralph, and an animation supervisor on Tangled.

So they definitely got some guys that have some

experience with animation, but haven't directed

before. But yeah, I can't explain the fad. Maybe

Dan? When I played the game I haven't not like

I take it to it I do find it fun I got to a point

like once you kind of go through it and beat

it it's kind of like not Tetris But it is interesting

like a nice little puzzle figuring out how to

get all the different eggs or whatever and the

physics are kind of cool, but I Don't why is

it such a huge sensation? I I don't know people

Maybe people have that up hatred towards birds

and this lets them release it, but besides that

I don't know It's kind of cool. I mean, it's

a fun game. I do give it that. It does get really

addicting. But it's just, I think, maybe that's

the reason. Will the sequel to Angry Birds just

be like Candy Crush or something? Well, there

has already been a Angry Birds 2, I think. No,

I meant movie -wise. Oh, oh, oh. I'm sorry. Maybe.

That or Farmville. Can you imagine a Candy Crush

movie where you just, like, 20 minutes in, you

have to leave because you can't continue the

movie? you gotta check in every five minutes

and help get your facebook friends to help you

right help me through this movie please it won't

continue unless you come and watch it with me

what a deploy um all right so that does it for

the headlines moving on to some quick casting

calls not a lot for you here in this section

but a couple things here um i don't really know

this actor a lot because i don't watch um uh

what he's in currently but you've seen presented

rim Oh yeah, I'm sorry. I do know who he is.

I wasn't thinking. But Charlie Hunnam apparently

has dropped out of Fifty Shades of Grey. The

only reason I bring it up is because it was such

a big deal when they dropped the casting names

for this film and it made headlines so many places

and you couldn't go anywhere without hearing

about it. And now less than a month later it

seems like he's dropped out. So apparently they're

gonna have to find a new main male star for that

film. I don't know... It seems like it's gonna

be a successful movie. To me. Like, I hear the

craze that was the book and it seems like the

movie should be a financial success. So, is it

the smartest thing to opt out of that? Well,

maybe if you care more about art than money.

I think it's the material. Yeah. That's why I'm

saying it has to be that because it seems like

it's gonna be a, for sure, money maker, but...

So maybe I give him more credit for... not liking

the material possibly and getting out. I don't

have a lot to say about that. Go ahead. And sometimes

a success like that can work against you. Think

of people who were in Twilight who will always

be associated with Twilight. And I think Charlie

Hunnam, I think a lot of it had to do with his

schedule and his TV show. And I think he realizes

his TV show is probably better for his career

than that movie because it's... He could would

always be associated with that role and if that

movie didn't do well if it did well It wouldn't

be because of him and if it didn't do well people

would blame him for it. So it's kind of like

the What's his name? That wasn't John Carter

and Battleship Oh Taylor Kitsch Taylor Kitsch

who went into who you know was stoned into fandom

to these blockbusters Maybe too soon and when

it didn't work out He was kind of look as it

looks like as a dud and maybe Charlie had him

who in Pacific Rim wasn't a disaster, but I don't

think it was Successful as a lot of people wanted

it to be so maybe he's just like, you know what?

I'll just I'll go a different route and so plus

people are really killing him for being casted

I think equal to Ben Ben Affleck. So I don't

know sure The next casting call I had to bring

up just because it's so fun to read and to talk

about He teased it in the opening apparently

vanilla ice wants a role in Michael Bay's Teenage

Mutant Ninja Turtles movie I have to read this

word for it, I hate reading stuff on air, but

this cracks me up, this whole line. While chatting

with the rapper about his new TV show, entitled

Vanilla Ice Goes Amish, I didn't even know that.

Oh lord. Apparently he was ecstatic about the

upcoming 2014 Michael Bay Turtles movie, and

when I asked if he'd like a role or cameo in

the new film, apparently he jumped out of his

chair and said hell yes. Secret of the Ooze is

the highlight of my life, and I'll never top

it. Well, I'm sure I've had higher points in

my life than that. He said he would do anything,

even if it was a walk -on, quote unquote, we

could do a remake of the Ninja rap, this time

with dubstep or even a roll without rapping anything.

He said this is going to be huge. I just had

to read that for pure entertainment value. This

is the first thing I've heard about this movie

that I don't like. Alright, real quickly, casting

call, a trio of Harrison Ford groomers. I just

want to get your take on each one of them quickly.

Apparently he is saying that he's not so sure

about appearing in the next Star Wars, that he

would love to do another Indiana Jones film,

and that he is in talks about appearing in the

Blade Runner sequel. Which ones should he be

in, which ones shouldn't he be in, or should

we even be talking about Harrison Ford, Dan?

To me, the headline is Harrison Ford wants a

job. But he says he's not so sure about being

in Star Wars. I think he's playing hard to get.

Think if anything Star Wars yes, no Indiana Jones

movies like what are you gonna do now? Like search

for you know the nursing home like I don't understand

Blade Runner's parents to me that if he's in

the Blade Runner sequel if there is one It would

kind of ruin the mystery of his if his character

on the original so I would be against that but

I think him in Star Wars is fine because it like

if the movie does you know move forward in time

him being older works, but He just, Indiana Jones,

leave it where it is. I don't need another Indiana

Jones movie. I'm fine with the three, you know,

because there's only been three. I'm fine with

the three. And apparently Ridley Scott, who's

going to be directing, I believe, the Blade Runner

sequel, I remember hearing that he had shot down

any option for Harrison Ford to do it, but apparently

they're in talks now. So I don't know how he

would fit into that one. Like you said, I am

fine with him being in Star Wars, depending on

how they do it. the other ones though i don't

need him to be involved with michael um indiana

jones has never been a thing for me i have seen

all three movies um and i i'm not saying that

they're bad by any means they just don't do anything

for me like i feel like i feel like when you're

a kid or at least when we were kids um and you're

and you're being shown certain things by like

friends or family members That's that's like

your gateway into things. And I kind of that's

like the first fork in the road in terms of what

you may like or not like when you're older. And

I and in my family, it was Star Wars. My dad

showed me Star Wars. They did not show me Indiana

Jones. I have other friends that were shown both

that they like both. But for me, it was always

Star Wars. So Nina Jones has never done anything

for me. I do I do agree that the. Was actually

bad As far as Star Wars, you know, we talked

about it earlier I don't if he's not in Star

Wars. It's not gonna be a loss to me. I'd actually

prefer that they Tell some other story they have

there. There are other more interesting characters

in the Star Wars universe then Luke Leia and

Han I think With that though, I understand what

you're saying, but I think there's no way Not

to some way either acknowledge them or have them

quickly in at least this first one that comes

out That's okay. I mean if they're playing on

doing a lot of them I think they have to just

make the nod get it out of the way do it in the

first one and then Possibly then we're done with

it. That's fine. I guess as long as it's like

they're not I don't want them to be Okay, this

is kind of this is kind of what I'm hoping for,

but at the same time not. And I'm hoping people

can figure out what I would I'm talking about

this if they take like the Leonard Nimoy role

that he had in the last two Star Trek movies.

Okay, I get that. But at the same time, I don't

want them to be as bad as the Leonard Nimoy role

in the last two Star Trek movies. As far as the

Blade Runner stuff, I don't I've watched Blade

Runner. I feel like I've watched a different

movie than everybody else. And every time I see

like scenes from like someone's there's like

a screenshot or I see like a short video from

Blade Runner like what Where was that? Where

was this in that movie that I watched? Is it

like the director's cut? Is it the unedited cut?

Is it but what cut of the movie is this that

I'm being shown this picture from because that's

not in the movie that I watched So maybe I should

watch that again. I mean, I'm not saying it's

like and I'm not saying it's bad or anything

like that You can watch it for next week. Yeah.

Okay. Maybe I can try I can try and find one

of the Dozen ways to watch that movie if you're

gonna rewatch it I would say we watch the director's

cut is usually the universally like that. It's

the best version of it Okay, I but like I said,

I I just I didn't have a problem with it when

I watched it by the same time when it was done

I was kind of like why I I understand what it's

I'm this way with a lot of video games I understand

what certain video games have done for the the

medium and I can understand what Blade Runner

is done for the medium But at the same time I

was like I don't This is not as good as everyone.

I don't think it's as good as everyone thinks

it is But it was I didn't think it was bad. Maybe

I do just need to rewatch it because I Just don't

remember the movie that everybody else does And

the final two casting call things, I guess Mike

and some of the other people will be appreciative

of this that I'm not ignoring Comic book stuff

here some casting call rumors as far as 20th

century's Fox is a Fantastic Four reboot, which

is scheduled to be released March 6, 2015. Some

names are starting to float around as far as

who could be in the running to play Mr. Fantastic

and the Invisible Woman. And the names that were

thrown out there, Kit Harrington from Game of

Thrones, Jack O 'Connell from 300 Rise of an

Empire, and Miles Teller from The Spectacular

Now, apparently are being considered for Reed

Richards and Mr. Fantastic. Kate Mara from House

of Cards, and I don't know how to say the other

girl's name. I don't know how to say her name

either. Something Ronin. Didn't she also just

read for Star Wars? Yeah, she apparently auditioned

or read for a Star Wars casting call. But now

she's also being thrown out there as far as one

of the possibilities for Sue Storm or the Invisible

Woman. And apparently Fruitvale Station star

Michael B. Jordan is the studio's first choice

to play Johnny Storm slash the Human Torch. I

am. OK, on their own, I have no problem with

the actors that they've been. They've been that

are listed here in this article. I feel like

it's more in line with the Fantastic Four that

I wanted out of the first two movies. With the

younger characters, it seems more like they're

going with the Ultimate Fantastic Four, which

is my favorite Fantastic Four. They're all under

18. They work at a think tank, which is the Baxter

Building. It's just it's really cool. Like the

oldest one is in that series is Grim the thing

and I think he's like 21 or something like that

and everyone else is under 18 But I have no problem

with any of the names that they've listed here.

The only problem I have is With the fact that

the human torch Johnny storm and Sue storm are

supposed to be brother and sister And I'm not

sure the politically correct way to say this,

but they don't have an African -American female

character, female listed to play Suzanne's Suzanne

Storm. Unless they're going to go with like some

kind of like adoptive kid or anything like that,

or they're just or they're completely throwing

it out the window and coming in there. None of

them are related to each other. My guess is they

may be able to go the adopted route. But yeah,

that that was one question I had the the casting

to me seems it seems legitimate I think like

Michael B. Jordan wouldn't make an awesome human

torch he he worked with The director previously

with in Chronicle and he had like a similar role

in that so I think his personality would work

well and he Kind of has some experience doing

like a superhero s movie previously Think that's

probably gonna you know, like you said just the

political aspect of it might rub some fans the

wrong way because you know They are changing

the race of a character. Yeah, get over yourselves

people Yeah, I yeah to me it doesn't matter because

I get it if you change the race of a character

like the Black Panther because the race is a

huge deal with that character But with Johnny

Storm, it's never really been an issue. Like

did people complain? I know people complain that

Jessica Alba was Uh, you know sue storm because

she's not a great actress But did people complain

because her you know, her race didn't meet that

character. I don't remember people saying anything

about it. Uh, I to me it I I don't know like

i'm fine with all that casting. So she or ronan

or whatever. I'm a huge fan of her She was great

in hannah Her work if they're doing the under

18 thing. I actually never read the ultimates

I had no idea that they were under the age of

18 because I was kind of like hearing that cast

I'm like these people seem really young to be

playing these characters. Mm -hmm Yeah, that's

that's one of the neat things about them is that

they're all really young so so that's kind of

interesting and that has me a little bit more

intrigued because the fantastic of four have

always been that team that has not not that they

haven't aged well, but they've They are very

much a product of their time period when they

came out so changing the age around maybe that

will work because you can't do I didn't hate

the old Fantastic Four movies, but There you

could do much better And the last casting call

another superhero type rumor now, let me first

state that the source of this is all based on

his unnamed so take everything with a grain of

salt but the headline reads Ben Affleck wants

Larry David to be in the Man of Steel sequel

at first I was like what in the heck are they

talking about and who in the heck would he play

and then once I read the article I was like that

makes absolute perfect sense um so apparently

Ben Affleck is reportedly trying to convince

him to take a part in this and the um rumored

name is uh damn Michael you can say his name

better than I can because I don't it's Mixel

Pitlick Yeah Which he does look exactly like

um I only know this character from smallville

I like that character in smallville, but more

importantly this introduces the idea of magic

into the DC universe Good I guess I mean if they

can pull the problem is it's uh Like Marvel did

it and then they kind of shied away with it with

iron man 3 and it's there they kind of unless

it's like the avengers magic doesn't exist or

if it's not thor or the avengers magic doesn't

exist and it's kind of interesting going with

the whole real world aspect that they kind of

like there's a definite tone to man of steel

and i i did like man of steel quite a bit and

but it didn't seem like a movie where magic It

didn't seem like a place where magic could exist,

but if they're willing to put that in there,

then I'm willing to watch it. I just think he's

perfect if they were trying to put that character

in. He is a perfect choice. What else has he

done? Because I don't know. I feel like I should

know who this guy is. The Curb Your Enthusiasm.

Yep, don't know him. OK. You never watched Curb

Your Enthusiasm? No, I have not. Have you watched

Seinfeld? Nope. Okay Okay, I didn't watch Seinfeld

because one I didn't watch a whole lot of TV

when I was in Like elementary middle high school.

I didn't watch a whole lot of TV TV wasn't a

thing for me until like 2004 and that's when

I started paying attention to seasons and all

that stuff the As far as curb your enthusiasm

again didn't have premium cable And I haven't

gone back and like really watched in the older

stuff So I can't like I can't offer an opinion

on either of those things He came out with a

TV well HBO movie like clean history that came

out this year So if you want some idea of what

what he's like is it that movie is very much

like in the vein of Kirby and through enthusiasm

You can watch that if you have HBO go, but I

do what is it called clean history? I'll check

that out this week he has a john ham stars he's

like this guy who uh develops his car and things

go wrong and it's kind of a it's an okay movie

it's you know it's for a tv movie you can do

more all right all right so that does it for

the casting call the only other stuff we have

in our new segment is just a brief quick talk

about some of the new trailers that were uh unveiled

this last week um there was a new monuments men

trailer american hustle trailer and see your

life of walter Mini trailer Dan. Did you see

any of those and do you have any thoughts on

those? I did see I actually saw them all on the

new American Hustle trailer There really wasn't

much different with that one with the other one.

I am super excited for that movie It looks like

David or Russell doing a once gross easy movie,

which I'm all for I wasn't too hot on the new

Monumentsman trailer. I I was really underestimating

the movie. I still am just because it just it

lacked the humor of the first one that I was

hoping there would be more of. So I'm hoping

the movie is more like the first trailer than

the last one. Something about it seemed a little

too self -important. And Secret Life of Walter

Mitty, that first trailer I thought was pretty

remarkable, just in how it was edited and the

lack of any real dialogue. And I was curious

if that would be something they could sustain

throughout an entire film. With the new trailer,

it's more... Gives you a better idea what the

movie's gonna be like, but uh, i'm interested

in that movie It's I will say the thing about

secret life of walter many it It is very original

The visuals are pretty fantastic. So i'm actually

looking forward to all three of those movies

surprisingly enough I'm looking forward to all

three but all three trailers had different effects

for me american hustle The trailer for that didn't

have an effect one way or the other for me For

me, it wasn't different enough from any of the

other trailers. So it didn't sway my opinion

one way or the other I'm still interested in

seeing the movie It just had no effect on it.

I was much more interested and intrigued by the

first trailer for Secret Life of Walter Mitty.

This other trailer almost brought it down a level

for me. I could see that. I'm still kind of,

now I'm kind of on the fence there, but I'm still

interested in seeing it. I had the opposite effect

with the Monuments Men trailer. I actually am

more excited about it now. And the reason being

is the first trailer, I didn't get a good sense

of the importance or the amount of time or how

big the roles were going to be for all the actors.

For me the first trailer made it seem like it

was maybe gonna just focus on one or two of them

where the other People were playing more of just

like a little bit smaller roles Whereas the second

trailer really shows that you're gonna get a

good dose of all of them John Goodman Bill Murray

Matt Damon George Clooney, etc and I don't know

I like some of the things that that second trailer

shows as far as Making it seem a little more

real and a little less because that first trailer

almost for me had a feel and I know these are

completely different movies but it almost had

the feel of what was the Tarantino movie not

from last year but the year before and Glorious

Basterds yeah it almost had just a slight touch

of that in there with that first trailer like

it was yes it's in a historical setting but a

little unrealistic Yeah, I mean I heard a lot

of people nicknaming it oceans bastards because

it's like combining oceans 11 with Yep, that's

I was gonna say it reminded me of oceans 11,

but the second trailer for me made it seem more

Like it's more realistic. It's more base, you

know has more basis in real life and not so much

of just this fantastical Adventure type thing,

but maybe that's just me. Yeah, Mike. How do

you do? What do you feel about some of those

trailers? I had to agree with what you guys said

about all of them I Monument what monuments been

I haven't seen the new one Sorry guys, I saw

the original one for the first time today And

it it I mean like I just said, it looks like

oceans 11 12 or 13 Maybe because it's like George

Clooney and Matt Damon, but there's a very similar

scene it's even in the trailer where they're

kind of discussing how many people they need

for the job and They're like we need it's actually

I think it's the same I think it's the same two

guys I know it was because it was Brad Pitt and

George Clooney had the conversation where they're

like we need five people and then he's like you'd

be better if we had six wouldn't we? Okay, we'll

get six like that that line that that exchange

is in one of the oceans movies and I think it's

the first one American Hustle looked really colorful

and I do like the cast and Secret Life of Walter

Mitty I I haven't seen the second trailer apologize

for that I Did like the first one but what it

what it sounded like what it sounds like with

you guys with it as far as the trailer goes it

sounds like the kind of issue that I had with

Pacific Rim or kind of the marketing behind Pacific

Rim where the first couple trailers were you

know giant robots bashing things up and there

was no there wasn't a human element to it so

there wasn't like a The the geeks were latching

onto the movie really well, but it wasn't playing

very well for the the wider audience and right

before like the week a week or two before that

movie came out they released a final trailer

that had a lot more of the human element to it

and it didn't play well with me see for me the

first trailer for secret life of alternity had

the same effect as the trailers did for life

of pie where it just seemed like this completely

you know like a fantastical experience with visual

you know Unusual and unique visual type things

that they're doing with it and just kind of this

unique thing that I've never seen before that's

kind of like what I saw with the first trailer

and then the second trailer for me was just way

too It was like it for me was distance itself

from that It looks a little more conventional

than I anticipated Right. I didn't have this

written down or anything and maybe it's been

released a long time ago, but in seeing our main

attraction Which I saw today in the theater One

of the previews was for The Book Thief and I

remember when we did our look ahead at the Fall

and Winter movies that that trailer wasn't available

and I must have missed when it got released.

So I just saw that for the first time this week

so I thought I'd bring it up. That looks pretty

amazing from what I saw in the trailer with the

casting and just kind of how they're setting

that up. So I'm definitely interested in that.

Dan, have you seen that trailer? I did, the one

that's like... isn't too uh... again it's a war

two during the nazi and takeover it's because

we're going to play the right after the play

the money yeah i i couldn't it might really didn't

have a release date of it but even a year to

it so i'm assuming it's a share but i don't know

so any any other true that i think it's on a

break up anything that you saw for the first

time this week or recently that uh... peter interest

Swing it back to you, Dan. All right. Well, we

will take a little bit of break here and we come

back. We'll be entering into our main attraction

with a discussion of Captain Phillips. We are

an unarmed freighter. We have a potential piracy

situation. Chances are it's just fishermen. They're

not here to fish. Look at me. I'm the captain

now. I want 10 million dollars. Don't get in

there. We got to get them off this ship. We're

deploying a SEAL team. The Navy is not gonna

let you win they would rather sink this boat

All right, and welcome back and we are going

to be entering into our main attraction this

week and our main attraction is Paul Greer Paul

Greengrass's latest film, Captain Phillips, like

I mentioned, directed by Paul Greengrass, starring

Tom Hanks among a relative no -name cast of writers,

Billy Ray, who wrote the screenplay. And it's

based off of the novel done by Richard Phillips,

the actual real -life Captain Phillips. Going

into this, way back when we did the... Preview

for the top for the movies of the fall for the

fall winter preview in M. Boyer a few months

ago This was actually my number one anticipated

film For the year for the second half of the

year. So I was highly anticipating this movie

and usually with high having High being highly

anticipating movie Disappointment often comes

just because you build things up so high those,

you know where you build dump is impossible to

meet So I'm curious Kevin like how much you anticipated

this with this movie you're really looking forward

to Was it one that you just kind of you went

into with you know? Just you know meeting me

ochre expectations or where did you stand at

before as you were entering into the film? I

was definitely well, I guess I should Say exactly

what I said to the my friend who I was watching

to it right before the film started because we

see a lot a lot of the movies I see I see with

him just because that's kind of our thing that

we do together and I leaned over and said you

know this has potential top 10 of the year written

all over written all over it we'll see so I kind

of had high expectations for it as far as how

much I was looking forward to it though it's

it wasn't by any means like one of the top five

films I was looking forward to this fall and

winter season there was a lot of other films

that I'm looking forward to even more And that's

why kind of since I wasn't looking forward to

it as much I thought it might be one of those

that just kind of comes in and and steals a thunder

so to speak as far as My favorite films of the

year, so it's kind of I had high expectations

But it wasn't like I was having high expectations

because I was super excited about it. I just

thought it might be really good So that's kind

of how I entered it. Okay. Yeah Pardon me just

him progress returning to like a docu drama type

of film like what he did with the United 93 and

I love his born films both ultimatum in supremacy

Green zone is maybe I'm not a huge fan of but

him getting kept the idea of Paul Greengrass

taking the reins of a real -life story and doing

it his own way I was really curious about and

seeing how he would handle that and I must say

like after seeing gravity last week and Captain

Phillips this week. I just think this is one

of the best back -to -back weeks for movies in

my recent memory. I loved Captain Phillips. It

met my expectations. It will be my favorite film

for the year or top 10. I mean, too early to

say does this say for sure, but it is one of

my favorite films of the year so far. I think

I was even more tense and more enthralled with

this than Gravity, not saying it's a better movie.

I was just, it's a cliche to say edge of your

seat, but I was and I was so into it from right

when, like, the game between the pirates and

Captain Phelous begins until the very end. And

I knew the actual outcome. I knew the story.

I knew what was going to happen. But it didn't

matter. It's similar with United 93. He gets

you invested. There is a sort of sense of realism

with what he does that makes you forget that

you're watching a movie, even when you have someone

like Tom Hanks who gives a great performance.

Fantastic. It doesn't matter and it just feels

like you are Experiencing the movie in real time

if you were there with Captain Phillips in this

movie and it was intense It was intense does

not describe it. I absolutely loved Phillips.

How about you? Just before before we go too much

further just in case people are worried Maybe

some people didn't catch our first episode of

my weekly We will do this entire discussion Spoiler

free as much as possible granted. This is based

on actual events so so some people probably already

know like you said they know what's going to

happen but we will try to keep it spoiler free

for the most part um i kind of have a love hate

relationship with this one um hate's too strong

a word i have a love -like relationship with

this film i agree with uh your statement that

it's intense I agree with the statement that

it does have a way in the way that it's filmed

and the way that the story is told that it makes

you feel like you're there experiencing it alongside

them. And I think that's one of the big strengths

of the movie. I think another big strength of

the movie is the acting performances across the

board. There was literally not, I don't know

if I can come up with one person who stood out

as kind of the sore thumb acting wise. I really

was. Convinced by all the acting jobs And you

know, like you said a lot of a lot of no -name

Individuals that I thought did an impressive

job Tom Hanks did a very impressive job Although

he Fluctuated a little bit with his accent in

the opening scene compared to the rest of the

movie But that's just me being nitpicky on some

of the accents that he uses throughout his career,

I guess There his character was not consistent

in the way he spoke from beginning to end but

He still did a remarkable job acting wise my

only issue with the film I Think from a character

development standpoint and I think that might

have been a you know a conscious choice by Green

grass etc to not do this and to give it more

of just this realistic, like you're partaking

in the events and you're seeing things. So they

really don't have very many moments that you

really get to delve into some of the characters

and some of what makes them act the way that

they do. You're more so just experiencing it

and kind of have to form your own ideas about

why they're the way they are, because there's

very little look at anything outside of this

event. So I mean... Like I said, it was probably

a choice for them to do it like this to be effective.

But in doing so, there's not as much character

development as some people might want to see.

I can see that being a complaint from some people

if they're searching for something to be critical

about. See, I would go ahead. When you say character

development, you talking about the characters

in general, like Tom Hanks and the hijackers

or I am not talking about Tom Hanks. I think

that is one person they do have. quite a bit

of character development in, and I know he's

the main character and all that. I just felt

like the individual hijackers, it's there, but

it's not as much as, I'm not saying, I'm hugely

upset about it, but I'm saying I can see some

people criticizing that. The crew gets virtually

no character development. But like I said, did

they need some or is this more so we're just

telling this story in the perspective of this

is the event and this is how what happens and

this is if As if you were right there alongside

and you're observing and you're seeing things

We're not going to tell you that much about anything

going on outside before after Just experience

the event there is Some kudos that could be given

to just do that. I guess if that is your purpose

You know what I mean? I think some you know what

I mean? I mean if that was his choice He did

that and he did that effectively But I know some

people like to see a little bit more about what

makes these characters tick some of the nuances

behind them Some things that might inform their

decisions that they make that type of thing.

I don't know if that makes sense But I can see

that as kind of one grip my only other thing

that I kind of could come up with was I thought

some of the acts especially towards the beginning

of the film, were almost too quick. And what

I mean by that is I would have liked certain

acts to be prolonged a little bit to experience

more of what happened during that section of

the movie. Regarding the crew not having a lot

of backstory, I don't know if giving them backstory

would really do much of anything, I think. It

was more about seeing them within their actions

if I like if you were to compare it to You know

united 93 that didn't give you much about who

they were beyond this moment And I think that

is effective and you just kind of learn who they

are through their actions per se I I don't so

I don't understand giving the crew backstory.

I don't know if that would really add anything

to the film I don't mean if you were to look

at the hijackers I can understand that a little

bit because you do get some in the beginning

is like a little bit of a sneak peek into the

life of These pirates and like an understanding

of what they do and why they do what they do

I can understand like wanting to see more of

that and having a better idea of what's really

driving them to do and become these pirates and

maybe getting into more of the political aspect.

It touches on little things here and there. You

know, it matches these things in dialogue and

it doesn't really delve really deep into those

issues. And I could see wanting to go even further

with that. Yeah, I can understand that. But for

me, going into it, I like that it was isolated

into this one specific time and in how it. You

do the little bit of. for me the little bit of

backstory that we get was all really needed like

the juxtaposition between seeing Tom Hanks and

like beginning him kind of going on his journey

compared to that of the the hijackers and going

on to theirs yeah I just getting that small glimpse

into the pirate lifestyle I would want more I

mean I would love to even see like a documentary

on the smallie pirates and What goes into it

all because some of it was a little bit confusing

like why? They use different ships and where

different ships come from like you do learn out

later on as the story progresses but I and I

do think there is some development there with

at least the the main You know the main captain

of the of the hijackers the other hijackers besides

him the main with what I think his name was muse

or I forget The other ones I could see people

complaining that were very stereotypical you

had the young kid who you know was trying to

make a name for himself and Maybe was way over

his head You had that hot head that factor that

you didn't know what he was gonna do because

he was he would jump You know, he would jump

the gun too early or he would go crazy Like those

characters were a little too on the like stereotypical.

They mean they might be 100 % factual. That's

the issue. It's like Yeah, they may sometimes

being factual. You can you can in some ways become.

You know, you can run into issues just being

that, but I could see issues with that because

those characters were kind of thin. But I did

like that relationship and the development that

does go into that of Captain Phillips and the

muse, the head and not terrorist, but a pirate

in the back and forth between those two characters

and how I don't necessarily think you. Think

you do sympathize with their plight of the of

the height of the hijackers and have it For the

small glimpse you do see you can kind of get

an understanding of what they're doing Beyond

them just being evil people and it does kind

of put a little bit of a Deeper understanding

into their motivations. Maybe it could have gone

further. Sure. I mean You you kind of think he

has a family life. You really don't know You

know, there's one great line in it where it's

like you Tom makes his character saying like

you're not fishermen Because that's the thing

is like, you know, they're they're just fishermen

because of their situation They were driven to

this so that's that the thing or are we causing

this issue? You know, are they just kind of stuck

into a hard place and as they have no other option,

but yeah Go ahead. No, that was it Well, yeah,

I agree that you couldn't get too much more into

the crew But I was thinking if there was see

I can't say a lot without it It'll get to my

next point with that one So I'll come back to

that but as far as since you were just talking

about the hijackers I kind of went into the movie

with I guess maybe a little bit of a false expectation,

but I somewhat expected us to get that scenario

where You have this situation where it seems

like a cut -and -dry line between the good guys

and the bad guys. And I went in thinking that

this for sure was gonna be a film that takes

these hijackers who in all, for all reasons,

are the bad guys and like you said, makes you

sympathize with them, makes you understand their

side of the story, makes you relate more to their

plight, so to speak. And I don't think we got

that as much. Think very subtly it was it was

barely, you know, we scratched the surface of

it, but I would have liked to see a little more

of That a little bit more of What made them tick

a little bit more of what caused them to find

themselves in this situation? And I thought we

might get a little bit, you know, I'm not saying

that this would have been good or bad But I thought

we might be to get a little more not really political

commentary, but a little more look at how people

outside the, you know, we have this American

crew. We have an American captain and then obviously

the Somali pirates. And there is some lines that,

you know, where he's, you know, not, this doesn't

happen outside of America. Some, some lines like

that, that were really good. But I thought we

might get a little more of. you know, you're

from America, you take this for granted or you

have these luxuries, you know, that we don't

have. So a little bit more exploration into that.

And amongst the hijackers, I think they did a

good job of setting up stuff that they didn't

necessarily follow through with. You know, specifically

with one of the hijackers who is, without spoiling

anything, from a different village than the rest

of them. They made that seem like that was gonna

be something that was important Overall and yes,

he did act slightly different than the rest of

them But they really never you know when the

one guy kind of yells at him like why did you

pick him? He's from a different village They

really never explored that fully and in my opinion

I don't see I don't I don't know. I guess it's

just different taste because I I like subtlety

and I think it it did what you needed to do and

I think the lines were there That you can you

can connect those dots to yourself and it you

know, it indicates there was a line about, you

know, you know why you know or you know, tom

hanks is talking to the characters and he's They're

just asking like why can't you do anything else

and they mention, you know how we take all their

fish and there's nothing left for them to do

or You know, why can't you see it's in the trailer?

So it's not spoiling. It's like, you know, isn't

there anything else other than hijacking? And

he talks about, well, maybe in America. And I

think that going beyond that, you just I don't

know what more you would say. And I'm not saying

I guess I'm saying with it with the one hijacker

is that they never. Yes, you know, he may be

considered the hothead, et cetera, but he never

does anything. There's there's never that. tipping

point between him and the the other three that

really solidify that difference that They were

trying to kind of convey in that opening scene

for me It was like a scene that you could have

left that part out and it would have had no effect

on me You could have left the scene out with

them pointing out that he was from a different

village You could have left that complete scene

out and it had no effect on the rest of the movie

i disagree with that because i think it does

it puts an element of mystery there and what

a big thing but an element of mystery that never

pays off i would disagree with that because that

last like his that last moment when it's coming

all to head he is the figure that's driving it

and he is the figure that his His and his willingness

to go what I'm saying is in the other characters

is what's kind of leads at all to a head Right,

but you don't need to know that he's from a different

village because by that point through the movie

You just know that he's a hothead so it would

have had the same effect. Well, I think already

I think a key fact Well, I think why they mentioned

he's from the different villages the big thing

that that's throughout the film is the idea of

who is in control It's a huge factor throughout

it all if it's it starts with you know, Captain

Phillips, you know Asserting his control of the

ship like Brett when he walks on to the other

guy the Muse character taking then can take control

of the film and what you see between that other

guy from the other tribe and that Muse character

is That he is like Muse seems to have a pretty

strong hold of all the other people on his crew

except for him and yeah, maybe The other village

thing. I mean, I don't know. I don't know what

what more like I don't know. In the end, he actually

was trying to get. I don't know what more you

would do with that. But I think what what it's

getting at is the fact that he is not going to

kind of fall in line with Muses demands and instructions

as much as the other people, because he's from

a different village and he's from he's coming

from a different background that he he's not

he. He will do what he wants and what he sees

fit and he's always trying to take down muse

and trying to Question everything he does and

I think just Saying he's from a different village

is adds an extra factor of explaining why he's

doing that because he isn't someone who Maybe

has worked with him in the past who he's not

used to the role that he's given unlike say the

young boy who is just He's always kind of He's

never he's always looking for someone else to

take control even if it's Captain Phillips I

think that is the reason why it gets into that

because they have done more with it maybe but

I don't know I I don't think it was set up to

be some sort of oh We're saying he's from a different

village because in the end there's gonna be some

sort of twist or something I think it was just

getting into the idea of control And like I said,

I'm more so taking the place of our Third person

here and trying to play devil's advocate like

I'm saying with this Point that I was bringing

up. I was more so trying to come up with anything

that someone might Try to criticize the movie

about the the character development wasn't as

big of an issue for me as I'm probably making

that sound I just think there was room a little

bit with the hijackers to have possibly some

more character development I do agree with that

I could see us like that. Like I said those characters

minus the the main guy are pretty Are pretty

thin. They're pretty much they're here's your

one trait and that's pretty much it I mean even

like the driver guy it it does kind of feel like

their crew feels like your stereotypical Like

heist crew from like, you know heist movie something

like that. Well, you have the driver You have

the young kid you have the hothead they all kind

of fit into those roles And so I could see that

being a huge complaint that you know, these are

these especially given the screen time I mean,

you know, it's basically we have five people

sharing the screen time for Don't know what would

you say like? 80 % of the film 90 % of the film.

Yeah, I mean for the most maybe yeah, that's

probably about it So when you see when you're

only seeing those five people for that long of

a time And I'm not trying to make it seem like

it was hard to sit through or that it felt like

a long time or anything like that But when when

those are the characters that you're seeing it

kind of Maybe points out a little bit more like

you said how thin a couple of them are Yeah,

I mean I could see that but I think also Just

to go back on something else, which is that I

think we can't be understated is the fact that

this is You know, it's called Captain Phillips

and That's 100 % because this is Tom Hanks movie

from the beginning to end he is He I was relatively

impressed with Tom Hanks. I I mean I like him

as an actor I don't think he's given a performance

like this in quite a while. There was such an

emotional depth and just It's hard to say but

my one of my favorite moments in the entire movie

was Near the end and when you kind of see the

effect everything that happened kind of take

place and you see just how Shaken that he is.

I thought that scene was just incredible and

then Yeah, and even before that and when it's

getting to its tipping point and you it's like

I was majorly impressed because it for the most

part he's used just like talking about development

yeah i could see that with some of the like you

know secondary characters there is not much at

all most of them are just there as kind of you

know they're just there as placeholders in some

places but his character just from where it begins

to where it ends it's it's amazing and i thought

like i could his performance is It's very layered

and it's very nuanced and it goes and it's just

it's devastating just seeing what happens to

him. Yeah, I Don't think that's too much to say,

you know going through a hijacking experience

is devastating But it is incredible and I just

think it gets I was completely captivated by

him on screen for me It's the most I've been

affected by one of his performances in almost

a decade. I think the last time I would go back

to the terminal as the last time I really was

drawn to one of his performances. And I'm a Tom

Hanks fan. I've liked him for a long time. But

I'm going back at least 10 years before, since

I've seen him in a role that allowed him to do

what he did in this film. But I am thinking that

this may not be his best role of the year. But

that's going off of something I haven't even

seen yet. So that's kind of silly. My other point

that I was going to try to bring up in this one,

maybe resonates with me a little bit more than

the character part, was the pacing and the length

of the acts of the movie. I felt like... I don't

want to say rushed. I don't think that any of

the different acts or the different parts in

the movie were rushed per se, but I thought a

couple of them could have been... Drawn out sounds

bad, but drawn out a little bit Specifically

one of I guess that what we would consider the

after the introduction of the characters and

the setting and everything the the first act

when You know when they're on the main ship I

Felt like that could have been a little bit longer

It's so hard to do some of these without spoiling

it, but especially once the hijackers are on

the ship Felt like once they were on the ship

that things were moved along a little too quickly

To when we got to the next act and I would have

liked there to be a little more Lengthen that

a little more exploration of what that situation

entailed I Don't know again. I don't know how

they would have done that specifically But I

felt like maybe it was just a little bit too

quickly done But Dan, I don't think you had that

same problem. No, I mean, that's one thing I

thought was perfect with the movie was the pacing

I I to me it didn't really waste a moment. Maybe

you didn't go too quickly I I wish to me that

going quickly like that does keep me guessing

and not knowing where where it's going the I

love the fact that the first you know before

the book end of the film like once you once they

get into the water I thought like from that until

the end, it was perfectly paced. You had the

right. Oh, yeah. No, I agree that I'm talking

about just when they're on the main ship. That's

what I'm talking about. Once they get once once

he's on his ship until the very end of the film,

I thought that I feel it was paced perfectly

once once they're in the second. Once and once

they leave the ship, I thought from there on,

it was perfectly paced, but I felt like when

they were on the main ship, I thought there could

have been a little more suspense, a little more.

Not not suspense for the sake of suspense But

I just thought there could have been a little

more suspenseful if that scene Or those couple

scenes would have been drawn out a little bit

more. I don't think that we explored enough of

the ship I could see that I mean, I love those

scenes if they did more but I wouldn't be against

it but then you also run into the risk of Like

how is how much is too much, you know, is it

I would be interested to see how much was filmed

and how much was cut what I just based off the

real story like the They were on the ship for,

I think, about 10 hours until they were taken.

It's in the trailer, so it's not giving anything

away until they get off the ship into the smaller

little lifeboat. So I could see them on more

of a cat and mouse game. I was surprised on how

quickly they got off. I thought that would be

a little bit drawn out, a little bit more. But

I'm all for things not being drawn out. I'm all

for people getting to the point and getting...

Because I think when you get into that small

confined space, that's when... Tom saying tom

hanks performance really takes off um, yeah,

but I I do I mean Like I mentioned like that

that ship the cool thing about that uh The initial

hijacking was that cat mouse game between tom

hanks captain phillips and the hijackers And

I was liking that back and forth how they were

playing each other how you agree And I would

be all for seeing more of it. I do think, like

you said, I was not expecting it to end as quickly

as it does, because you're thinking, OK, well,

we're getting going here. Well, we'll see more

going. And then suddenly, it's like, oh, no,

we're done with this. We're moving on to the

next part. So I can see that maybe being another

thing that some people might bring up. And they

did have room for, like you're saying, more of

that cat and mouse game, because that was something

that they swayed a little bit away from. The

real -life scenario In in the real -life accounts

of how that all took place there was more to

it that they could have Done more of that if

they wanted to I don't know how well it would

have played on the big screen And you can read

up on the real story if you want to see what

that is One thing you kind of started to touch

on there was probably my favorite part of the

movie and the favorite thing that the director

did was the juxtaposition of the four different

captains that we saw and I really enjoyed seeing

because you've got obviously a big look at Captain

Phillips and you saw him in all parts of his

look in all parts of his day you know you got

to see him Before he boards the ship you got

to see him in his quarters. You got to see him,

you know Interacting with his men in the meeting,

you know in the break room. You got to see him

doing his job you got to see all parts of him

and Obviously we get to see the main hijacker

and we get to see most of what's going on with

him but they also then kind of had similar scenes

that they played with the the captain of the

naval ship and the captain of the SEAL team And

there was even a scene with one of them in his

quarters, just like they had done with Captain

Phillips. I thought they, I just think that they

did that very well. And again, somewhat subtly,

even though there was two scenes that were both

taking place in the captain's quarters, they

didn't come out and punch you in the face with

it. And I just really liked seeing four people

that were in charge of different things and how...

They all were completely different even though

they were all in a way captains I don't know

if you picked up on any of that while you were

watching it dan Oh, definitely sure, uh, because

they even like captain phillips even drops a

line like we all have bosses because we're talking

about Bosses and why he's doing what we're doing

and you you find out I mean like I mentioned

a big theme of it is control and within that

control is like who is like who you know, who

is the boss of the situation and We see that,

you know just We see that often the boss of the

situation is not the one who's actually there,

or the person who's really controlling things

is maybe not the one who's steering the ship

per se. They may be pulling the strings from

afar or something like that. You even see it

when the Navy takes control of the original,

I don't know if you call that a cargo ship, the

main ship that gets attacked by the hijackers,

even when the Navy takes over that. and you have

the second in command there, you get a glimpse

of that control. Yeah, yeah. And that was good

because we talked about with Gravity how it adds

in some like subtext to like a really thrilling

adventure. And the same thing with this, you

know, Greengrass adding in some additional kind

of themes and thematic elements that are beyond

just, hey, like a throwaway type of adventure,

per se. But yeah, I didn't notice that. And one

thing I also wanted to touch on was just with

what's going in with the edit with the pacing

the editing and those moments that are really

like high like the high tension moments like

the really ones that are really pushing things

especially like the like the last I would you

know 10 minutes or so the editing and that is

so crisp and it just it it moves from because

you have a lot of different things going on you

have like these you know these all these different

parties Taking control this one situation and

just how well it edited each moment and it It

stayed on each each person just long enough to

give you an understanding what was happening

and building up attention and building it up

it was remarkable and just it kept pushing you

and pushing you and finally when it would let

go it's just this release of like emotion it

just this huge release and then seeing like that

like that gets into that last moment that last

just seeing the effect of all this, I don't want

to say tragedy, I guess you can call it a tragedy,

but this huge event taking place and what happened

to Captain Phillips, just that not enough could

be said about how important editing had, what

an important role editing took with all this

stuff going on, especially in those last moments.

Not just the editing. I think some of the camera

angles that were some of the captures that they

decided to do in the first place, some of the

way the shots were filmed, whether it be the

angles or what part of the scene they were focused

on, I thought it was excellent. So I think just

the filming of, as far as which shots they got,

the editing, and the soundtrack behind it, I

thought all of that was A+. Yeah, I mean Paul

Greengrass is the guy that's known for shaky

cam He kind of pioneered it with the born films

and this there's not much shaky cam But his camera

like there is enough movement there that gives

it their realistic sense especially when like

you get a lot of like the military cameras and

using a lot of their actual cameras, you know

the infrared and I think that again adds into

that realism that puts you into that moment which

is important when you get to a real -life story

like that it it does have This like you mentioned

the angles that he uses he's really great at

capturing the moment and placing you just the

right spot So you can see what's coming and just

getting prepared for it. So yeah, I mean directing

and editing wise. We're both superb Currently

on Rotten Tomatoes has a 94 % Rating which is

obviously very good. Like I said, I don't want

to make it sound like I'm poopooing on this at

all As of now it's in my top 10 We'll see If

it can hold on to that or not. So I definitely

still enjoyed the film Any other aspects of the

film that you wanted to bring up? I have one

more at the end I'd like to bring up but anything

that we haven't touched on so far um not No,

I think like like I said, my my bottom line for

this would just be if you're at all a fan of

Paul group grasses other work or you enjoy like

docudramas like this like this is for me like

movie like one of those like movies that makes

me love movies because you can it takes you into

a situation that you would never be in otherwise

and It makes it feel like you're actually there

and it's such a hard thing to accomplish and

reading graphs does it so well So, I mean that's

pretty much all I have to say. What was the last

thing you wanted to talk about? I just wanted

to touch on just because I kind of had brought

it up earlier about When we were talking about

the fifth estate and I mentioned jobs a little

tiny bit of controversy with this one as well

Apparently there's 11 crew members that have

sued for nearly 50 million dollars because they're

basically attacking Captain Phillips as willful,

wanton, and conscious disregard for their safety.

And I don't want to give anything away, but if

you want to search out the, just look up you

know, controversy with Captain Phillips. Apparently,

they're saying that there was some inaccuracies

as far as how this was told, that he didn't do

everything he could to avoid the hijacking. And

the film does touch a little bit on the fact

that he was aware of hijackings in the region

via some of the scenes in his quarters. But in

saying that, he basically kind of ignored warning

signs and decided, you know, kind of took the

crew's life, according to them, disregarded their

safety, and didn't do what he could have to avoid

certain things, and said that it was kind of

an inaccurate portrayal of him in the movie,

too, and that he should not be seen as this hero

that, like, he's being made out to be. Like I

said, this happens seemingly every time we have

a real life, or based on the true story thing

recently, so I'm not saying that it's, you know,

I'm not saying it's right or wrong. pointing

it out so if you are interested in hearing more

about this you know you can go see the movie

and then read up on this and see where you kind

of fall on this controversy maybe yeah when it

comes to that stuff i just i kind of take it

with a grain of salt yeah to me being factual

doesn't also doesn't always equal being good

like you can have a movie that's 100 truthful

and it's just not that interesting and you can

have something that's not factual at all and

be amazing like you know we talked about stuff

like the social network and What was said about

how that wasn't truthful and like I honestly

as long as a movie is good I'm okay with it or

also what are the intentions of the movie is

the intention? Hey, we want to be as truthful

and honest as possible Okay, but even within

that you're gonna take some you're gonna adjust

some things for dramatic sake and I think that's

fine and you like you mentioned when you're popular

and Something becomes as big as this people are

gonna come out and they're gonna say what they

want you to get their own piece of the pie So

it's it's just kind of the business. I guess

yeah with this one I don't mind it as much and

with the fifth estate I feel like I'm not gonna

mind it as much the only one that somewhat got

me What was the jobs one and the fact that like

was and a lot of the people that were very instrumental

in everything? would have nothing to do with

that version and instead we're supporting a different

script altogether. That one to me has a little

more weight attached to it than what I'm seeing

with with what I've read on these two. But would

you recommend Mr. Booth Ninja go see this one

or not? I would 100 % recommend it. I saw it

in IMAX. I don't necessarily think it needs to

be seen in IMAX. It didn't really add much to

it. It was just the way the timings worked out.

But I would 100 % recommend anyone seeing this

if you're a fan of movies. I couldn't understand

a reason why you would not enjoy this at least.

Maybe you won't love it as much as I did, but

I think you would enjoy it 100%. I think you

should see it too. I think... As far as 2013

goes, this is one of the movies that you have

to see in order to make an accurate listing or

opinion on the year overall and where things

fall. This is not one that you can just like,

you know, ignore that it exists and make an accurate

ranking system at the end of the year. I know

I'm, I put way too much into list and ranking

systems, et cetera. But it's kind of like last

year, like when I hadn't seen a couple of movies

going into the end of the year, I knew I had

to see them because They were so Whether it be

critically acclaimed or on so many people's list

So this is one that most people that are big

movie fans should see it's one of the must sees

of 2013 100 % agreed. So those our takes on Captain

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just gonna take a look ahead to next week and

finish out with some listener feedback. Coming

to theaters for next weekend, there are a few

big films, notably Carrie, the second or third

remake of the classic Stephen King novel. Also,

Sylvester Stallone and Arnold Schwarzenegger

will be hitting the screen together again in

the crime thriller, the crime prison thriller,

Escape Plan. Also, like we mentioned earlier

in the film the fifth the state the with the

movie about the founder WikiLeaks will be coming

out and also coming out and very limited release

I believe in New York and LA is 12 years of slave

which is getting rave reviews it won the audience

award and at TIFF earlier in the year, which

is a good indication of Future awards coming

its plate. So we'll we'll be discussing Possibly

one or two of those next week. We'll hopefully

have a better idea and we'll make sure that post

that on Facebook so you have an idea of what

will be going over. Coming to DVD or Blu -ray,

some notable films. Maybe not notable, but The

Colony starring a few people like Laurence Fishburne.

I haven't heard many good things about it. I

haven't seen it myself. Also the big summer comedy

from this past year starring Sandra Bullock and

Melissa McCarthy, The Heat. Also, talking about

hijacking is the Danish film, Hijacking, which

I've heard a lot of great things about. And after

seeing Captain Phillips, I'm curious about how

that works, because I believe it's about similar

storyline about Somali pirates as well, but it's

about a Danish ship that was taken over. So,

good timing, I guess, with that release. Also

coming out is maniac starring Frodo himself as

a maniac killer and the interesting thing about

that film is shot all in first person so For

the horror fans out there, there is that coming

out. And finishing out is Pacific Rim, the big

film from this past summer. I know all three

of us are big fans. I know I will be picking

up my copy on Tuesday when that comes out for

sure. And also Plush, a movie I'm not really

familiar with, but it is coming out. So it sounds

intriguing, I guess. I'm not sure. So of any

of those films, and coming to DVD and Blu -ray,

anything you guys would recommend? I mean, obviously,

Pacific Rim. You know, the Blu -Ray 3D Combo

Pack, Blu -Ray Combo Pack, 2 -Disc DVD Special

Edition, Ultraviolet, they got all that stuff.

Special features, there's an audio commentary

by Del Toro. There's a bunch of other things

that I'd have to read more into to see what they're

going to be. There's deleted scenes, blooper

reels, so the digital artistry of Pacific Rim.

So that's something I'll definitely be picking

up. I'm going to grab the Blu -Ray 3D, the 3D,

2D. Blu -ray DVD combo pack the only thing that

really bothers me. I hate ultraviolet. Yeah That

is a pain Pain, but it's okay because they give

you the DVD and I can rip that true I don't but

to me if I have a blu -ray of something I'm not

gonna watch it on my computer Maybe if I'm gonna

rewatch it, but I'm like I'd rather just watch

the blu -ray. Oh, no, I totally get that I mean

I have The problem is I try and get a digital

copy of anything that I have because I can get

an HD version of it off of iTunes. Now, I know

that Blu -ray is better than any downloadable

media form you can get right now. I'm very much

aware of that. I'm not. So no one needs to jump

all over me for that. I just like to have the

idea of. you know, that of having the digital

copy, you know, there and ready, like if I wanted

to put it on my iPad to take to work or if I

wanted because very, you know, very slowly it's

the the digital copy is kind of becoming more

important to me being an Apple user because they're,

you know, they're slowly removing the CD DVD

drives from their computers. which doesn't really

bother me because I don't use my DVD drive for

anything other than burning music CDs for my

car. But I would, you know, moral of the story

is Ultraviolet is retarded and or just dumb.

I'm sorry. I would rather just have a digital

copy of it. Yeah, I agree. So those are coming

out on theaters in Blu -ray. A lot of good stuff

coming out for sure. Now we're just going to

jump into our feedback from last week. Last week

we asked you all the question if do you buy snacks

at the concession stands at movie theaters or

do you sneak it in? And if you do, what do you

bring? buy or what do you sneak in and got a

lot of great feedback a lot of people with differing

opinions on the topic we had a lot of feedback

a lot of feedback just just in general uh so

yeah thank you to everybody yeah that was pretty

awesome i'm not gonna lie i'm so glad people

are listening because i mean that's it's great

to talk about movies but it's more even more

exciting knowing people actually you know hearing

what you're saying so But of all the feedback

we got about this topic, I just gonna pick out

one that caught my eye which was from dragon

out I'm guessing that's not his real name You

never know his I shouldn't say his because it

could be a girl. You never know Dragon oh says

I think in my food James Bond style, of course,

no way. I'm paying seven bucks for a soda I might

grab a popcorn here or there but most But mostly

if there have those taste stations where you

can add different flavors to your popcorn. Those

things are fantastic So it seems like he is more

on the sneaking inside of things and not actually

spending the money because of prices That's very

true I Maybe I'm just a curmudgeon, I guess I

can't stand when people sneak stuff into the

theater. It bothers me, and I don't know why.

I used to even have a relationship with a girl.

And when I went to movies with her and her best

friend and her fiance or husband or whatever

they were, they would always stop at the gas

station or Target or something beforehand and

get stuff. And they'd always be like, aren't

you going to get anything? And I'm like, no.

And then I would go to the concession town of

the movie and get something. I just. For some

reason, it bothers me. I don't understand why,

but it does. And I am someone who I never get

any of the snacks. I for sure don't get any of

the freaking like chicken tenders or any of like

the that type of stuff that they sell, because

that is even more ridiculously overpriced. But

I do always get myself a soft drink. And usually,

depending on how hungry I am, I get myself a

small popcorn or something. But I just for some

reason, I'm against snack sneaky snacks. Is that

because you're trying to support your local theater

or? Don't like I said, I'd have no I have no

good reason for it. It just for some reason in

Inside me bothers me when I see people sneaking

stuff in or cracking open cans of pop or Pulling

this or that out of their purse. I don't know

why it bothers me I will say though that I that

there are some theaters where you know where

they have the recliners and you know, you can

actually have a meal there or One time I had

I think I got like M &Ms or something and they

brought them to me, you know, like a little plastic

wine glass As I was reclined back in the easy

chair, that was kind of interesting. But I don't

know. Like I said, I have no logical reason.

I just don't like it when people sneak stuff

in. What do you guys do? I tend to bring, I don't

sneak stuff in. I usually don't. It's kind of

interesting. My wife and I, we've gone to the

movies a lot. We've been together for, I don't

know, the last 10 years or so. Our first date

was actually to see The Terminal. And on that

date, we both... We ordered a coke cherry Cherry

coke and ever since then we always if we get

soda for the last 10 years at a movie It's always

been cherry coke. So it's just kind of this random

thing we do. Yeah What was that? I always get

pib or whatever they call it I could understand

that but yeah, I tend to I don't usually buy

food if I'm not a big popcorn fan. I just I might

get pretzels. They have like these soft pretzels

with cheese, but I usually don't it's only if

like I'm starving or say I do like one of my

theaters I freaking the most has a as a bar and

they always have themed drinks which are cool

usually related to the movies and stuff like

that and all for drinking while watching movies

so that that I'm a fan of it they are kind of

pricey but As long as they're good I'm okay with

it like I am kind of the since I do see a lot

of movies I am on the side of I'm gonna support

the movie theater because that's where they get

their money from and So because I like movies

and I want to see theaters open I do spend money

and I don't tend to think things then if I do

it's more so candy because I do think if anything

candy may be the most ridiculously thing that's

overpriced but If you sneak something in I make

sure I buy something too just to make myself

feel fine The two nearest and closest theaters

to me are both AMC Theaters and so obviously

I have the little AMC membership for whatever

so I mean I just get a drink and a popcorn it

cost me less than cost me like 10 bucks, so it's

not like It's ridiculous. I mean some it is expensive.

I guess but it's not like I'm not paying seven

dollars for a drink so And you're there for what

like two three hours so if you can't go with

a drink that's more on you than anything But

I guess powers I'm interested to hear what you

have to say since you know, you do you know you

Work at one. So well, okay. Yeah, the concession

thing is a big deal. I mean my wife wanted to

she saw the question She's a general manager

at another theater in the chain That I work for

and she wanted to reply because obviously concessions

is like her you know, it's like a big thing and

Every obviously everyone in the forum was you

know, I sneak stuff in I sneak stuff in She just

wanted to say so I said don't just don't say

anything, you know And that's fine and but when

I go to the theater I don't first of all I get

passes so I don't pay to see movies like ever

um and one of the perks of my job is sometimes

i get to see them like two or three days earlier

than everybody else but the when i go to the

movies i i don't go i'm okay i'm more likely

to go to the concession stand and get something

if the concession stand and the box office are

two separate places um The theater at the at

the theater that we work for The concession stand

in the box office. They're the same person So

when you walk up to the counter you get your

tickets and you get you you order your food.

The problem is for me I mean, I don't go I don't

go to the movies at the last minute But I hate

standing in line behind people that are trying

to choose first of all what movie they want to

see and second What beverage or what they will

you know what popcorn they want? And it's just

so it's like it's like You're you're wasting

more time. So most of the time I just I I don't

even bother ordering any food or anything because

I just want my freaking tickets and i've already

been in line behind three other people that Took,

you know 20 minutes deciding what whatever they

wanted um So but yeah, like I said, I I don't

have a problem with with theater food. I get

I get it Um, the pretzels i've never had the

pretzels from from where we work Um, mainly because

i'm a fan of like the pretzel sticks like the

soft pretzel sticks for dipping than the entire

pretzel but that's what we get we get the pretzel

sticks that like mini pretzels that are like

in becoming the same same thing as like the nachos

basically yeah i i will say but i do like i do

like movie theater popcorn um i do not like it

was really interesting um because i started i

was working in a movie theater before i worked

with the one i work at now which is where i got

all my training and they had been open for four

years and their popcorn was really really good

And when I came to work at the theater that I'm

at now, it was a brand new building. It had only

been open for two months when I started working

there. And the popcorn tasted awful. Awful, awful,

awful. And it took about three or four years

for it to actually taste good because the kettles,

the popcorn kettles were brand new. I mean, they

watched them every night, but through use, like

just something... Through the through the the

kettles being used regularly just that adds to

you know It's I don't know what what you call

it's like seasoning a kettle or something like

that But yeah, it took it took a good two or

three years before I was actually able to eat

the popcorn and now I usually have like You know

after the the last movie starts. I go downstairs

and get a bag of popcorn or something I like

movie theater food. I like I think my favorite

is peanut M &Ms or sour patch kids Good choices

all right anything else on that question before

we move into the question for next week All right

well for next week our question is on a different

topic entirely, but what is that one actor or

actress that influences your Decision to go see

them a movie either causing you to go see it

or making you not want to see it Who was it and

you know and why do they have that effect on

you basically? yeah i would look at i would look

at it this way you know take like the the genre

of movie the plot line the setting that you like

like that you would be completely interested

in like you're the perfect setup for a movie

which actor actress gets if they got cast in

that movie would turn you away from it and and

vice versa you know if there's a genre or a setting

or a plot type Story that you would be completely

against in every other setting which actor actors

if they were tied to that movie would all of

a sudden you Man, I don't know how to answer

the first part Like I don't know what could make

me not go see a movie that I was interested in

Like there's a couple people that good for me.

I just could see this that that's a thing for

me I I'm not trying to answer the question now,

but it's kind of you know If every if it if it

walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck,

but then one thing is like off it's like i i

still might want to go see if it's actually a

duck i can see that i guess if you had to pick

someone that was the you know if you had like

all the actors or actresses in the world and

you had to pick someone that would have the greatest

chance to make you not want to see it for instance

we talked about earlier right hayden christiansen

awful in the prequels i actually didn't mind

him in jumper yeah And for me, I have some actors

and actresses that are, it depends what movie

they're in, but there are a couple that I just

for some reason can't stand no matter what they're

in. And there's a couple that I will see every

movie they're in no matter what. And everybody

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