STUDIO 2009

Our Top 5 Favorite Animated Films

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About this Episode

Mike and Steve discuss their personal top five favorite animated films they frequently re-watch. The pair go through their lists one by one, explaining the personal history, nostalgia, and specific reasons each film holds a spot in their rotation. The films discussed include Aladdin, He-Man and She-Ra: The Secret of the Sword, Toy Story 3, The Sword in the Stone, Transformers: The Movie (1986), Titan A.E., Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection 'F', Dragon Ball Super: Broly, Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker, and Batman: Mask of the Phantasm.

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Hey guys, this is Rob Paulson and you're listening

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to the Geekcast Radio Network. Hey, it's Mistress

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Carrie and you are listening to Studio 2009.

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Do not attempt to adjust the volume. Welcome

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back into our studio. You are now inside Studio

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2009, only on the Geekcast Radio Network. I'm,

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of course, TSU and Mike Jeremy. Once again, as

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always, is Steve Megatron. Hey, Steve, how are

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you? I'm Megatron. Wrong voice. I am Megatron.

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Yes. Yes. holy crap dude 160 episodes in five

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years we're 40 short of 200 and i'm gonna go

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crazy because i've produced half of those right

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now Yeah, well, you're a madman. I just, I live

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in the real world. Look, dude, I don't have anything

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else, so this is my world. I can tell you folks

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right now what is and what is not produced. Episodes

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165 to 169 are produced. Episodes 171 to 179

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are produced. Episodes 182, 183, and 185 are

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produced. 188, 189, and 190 are produced. And

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then 194 to 196 are produced. Everything else

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between 160 and 200 are not produced as of this

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recording. And 2025, I almost said 2026, 2025

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is rapidly closing upon us, which is probably

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a good thing because this year has been a holy

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shnikes kind of year, to quote Tommy Boy. But

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yeah, we're doing something a little different

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in episode 160. This originally was not the plan.

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We are... To quote a show I really don't like,

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but I don't mind this joke because it's kind

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of funny. We are pivoting, and we're going to

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bring an animation into the studio. That's right.

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We are taking the tunes out of ToonCast for now

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and bringing them on in here. This was your idea.

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You've been going back and you've been listening

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to the top 100 animated series since we are gearing

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up to redo that for a 2026 edition next year.

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And you had said, let's do our top five animated

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films that we are watching right now or that

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we always watch or whatever it is you said. Yeah,

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well, I mean, I got the idea because we. we're

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doing the 2026 top 100 animated series of all

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time or of you know this this decade yeah so

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when when i was doing that i was listening to

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all the old episodes i was listening to the top

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100 animated films especially because we managed

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to botch that as well well to be fair there was

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a lot of stuff going on in that yeah And there

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were a lot of things that some of us weren't

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enthusiastic about. And some of us were. And

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so there was a lot of back and forth. And so

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while I was going through it, I was kind of taking

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note of what was winning, what wasn't, what didn't

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appear, what did. And I thought, you know, it's

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been over 10 years. Where do I sit with it now?

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Yeah. And that was kind of where I left it. Yeah,

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and I haven't gone back and listened to a lot

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of the Top 100 stuff. I don't even remember who

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edited a lot of the stuff in the old. It was

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probably you. It was probably Kevin. The last

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thing I remember editing was either the Toys

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or the Transformers one. I honestly don't remember.

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I mean, my choices never really change. Like,

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my top, top, my unabashed, most non -subjective,

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like, my personal favorites, they never really

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change. They never have. Like, they probably

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might change here or there, but, like, Most of

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my go -tos are my go -tos. They're never really

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going to... Certain ones aren't going to unseat

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or unthrone other ones. I'm never going to choose

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this over that or whatever kind of a thing. There

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isn't going to be something from 2021 or 2022

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or this year, last year, whatever, that's going

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to unseat. Something from almost 40 years ago.

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There's just not. I'm old, and I'm setting my

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ways, dammit. I mean, aren't we all? I don't

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know. Some people can be a little bit more open

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-minded than I can sometimes. I mean, I think

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I've grown a lot and I've become a lot more open

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-minded. But when you're talking about personal

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choice, and this is mine and Steve's personal

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choices, we're not saying these are the end -all,

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be -all, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We're

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just saying that these are our personal top five

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animated films that we re -watch a lot. that's

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essentially what this episode is. That's what

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we are personally saying. So, you know, of course

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there's going to be bias and we're not going

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to like adhere to any other rules other than

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our own favorites. And that's what it is. So

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starting with number five, basically folks, we're

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just going to list these and then we're going

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to have a discussion on the wise and. Why nots

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and what we like and what we don't like and that

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kind of thing. So we're just going to go straight

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down the list. I'll say number five. We'll each

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give our pick. We'll go to number four. Yada,

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yada, yada. So number five, sir, what do you

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got? I have Aladdin. Ah, interesting. Very cool.

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Very cool. I have He -Man and She -Ra, The Secret

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of the Sword. Number four. My number four is

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Toy Story 3. Oh, you're going to Disney. Diznar

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and Pixney in route. Okay. Oh, it's going to

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change. I'm sure it is. My number four is The

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Sword in the Stone. So there's a little Disney

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in there. Number three. I'm so torn on a couple

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of these. Well, it's because I have to choose

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which one goes where. I'm going to go Transformers

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the movie 1986. Titan AE for me. Number two.

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This. This one's kind of a tie of, like, because

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I can't decide which of this universe's film

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plays into this. Like, which one I prefer. Because

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I like them both. Okay. For different reasons.

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Because I have one that's my definitive number

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one. Right. So I'm probably going to have to

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go with Dragon Ball Z Resurrection F, even though

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I kind of put it with a tie with Dragon Ball

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Super Brawly. Okay. And that's number two, right?

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Yes. Okay. Number two for me is Batman Beyond

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Return of the Joker, which celebrates its 25th

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anniversary this year. All right. Number one.

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What do you got? Batman Mask of the Phantasm.

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I have to give that movie. Yep, yep, yep. And

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number one for me is, of course. One shall stand,

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one shall fall. Transformers, the movie. Oh,

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boy. Now, not to say that Batman Beyond Return

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of the Joker wouldn't be in my top ten. I just,

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I was trying to diversify. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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No, absolutely. And again, this is top five,

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not top ten, because if you add top ten, you

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have five more choices, you have five more places,

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you have more room, yada, yada, yada. The top

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five is more of, you know, gun to your head,

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make a choice, live with your choice. And luckily,

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I'm the type of person that I literally had.

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I think the only... One that I had trouble with

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was what I was going to put at the four spot.

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Like Sword in the Stone was amongst four other

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films that I could have chosen at that four spot.

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And just, I remember that one being one of the

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ones as a kid that I watched the most. Surprised

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to see me? A little. I'm more surprised that

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I lived so long. Batman, Bruce Wayne. Bruce Wayne,

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Batman. Or have you met? Not now. Great. What

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did they used to call it? Stereo? So section

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two, folks, is where we really discuss why these

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are our top five. Basically, you know, what went

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into our choices, what, you know, how quickly,

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how often do we watch these? How quickly did

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we make these lists? And for me, my list was

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literally. Took me less than five minutes. Like

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I said, the fourth choice was a little bit of

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wiggle room. I actually almost put Anastasia

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from 1997 in its place for half a second. But

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I don't watch that film enough. And I grew up

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with Sword in the Stone. He -Man and She -Ra,

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The Secret of the Sword. It would have been higher.

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But again, I don't watch it. I will re -watch

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that movie, and I have, but I don't re -watch

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it enough. Sword in the Stone, like I said, I

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grew up with it, but it's one of those things

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where, for me, when I've grown up with something

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and I have it so ingrained in my brain, like,

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if I can quote the movie without seeing it, half

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the time, like... I just finished, because this

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is episode 160, I just, I'm either at the ad

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break or in the middle of the edit. I'm at the

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ad break or I'm close to being finished with

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episode 165, which is the 30th anniversary of

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Casper from 1995, where the Chaos Queen and I

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discussed that movie. And in that episode, I

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said to her, I said, I almost didn't need to

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watch the movie, even though I did, even though

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we did watch the movie together, she and I. And

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half the time throughout the movie, I'm like

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mouthing the lines. And I haven't actively watched

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Casper in probably 25 of the 30 years since it's

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been out. I think I've seen that movie twice

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in the last 30 years, including the time that

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we watched it together. And I just know that

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movie like the back of my hand. And just some

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of these things I know, like the back of Titan

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AE. Yeah. Have I rewatched a bunch of times in

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the last 25 years? Absolutely. We've done like

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four different episodes on four different podcasts

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in the last 16 and a half years of this podcast

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network about Titan AE. We've done, I think.

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One episode here over on ToonCast. We did one

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for ToonCast Beyond. We did one for La La Land

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Lounge because of the soundtrack. So that's three

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episodes for Titan AE alone. And I've just seen

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that movie so many times. Batman Beyond Return

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of the Joker. Don't even get me started. Funny

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guy. You know, it's like... Impudent dog. Who

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do you think you're talking to? Not a clown,

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I'll tell you that. Rank Amateur. Why in my day?

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In your day, old man. I just know those lines.

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I know that movie. I started to watch it because

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I'm actually... Hopefully I can get this episode

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out before this, but I'm going to be on a different

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podcast. I'm going to be on UpNerd. podcasting

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network. I'm going to be on Ryan's, uh, Ryan

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Merkley show discussing the 25th anniversary

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of the movie for return of the Joker, uh, this

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week at some point. So hopefully this episode

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goes out before then if I can get my ass in gear,

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but, uh, yeah, just like everything about return

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of the Joker. The reason why it's number two

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is because if transformers, the movie wasn't,

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My lifeblood, if it wasn't what I grew up on

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and Batman Beyond Return of the Joker and Mask

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of the Phantasm are what they are and there was

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no Trent, those would be my number one and number

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two kind of thing. But we have Transformers the

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movie. I wrote a line the other day. I haven't

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shared this publicly anywhere yet. I plan to.

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on all my social media, but like without these

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five things, I probably wouldn't be who I am

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today. It was something like without Transformers,

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Knight Rider, Mask, He -Man and the Masters of

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the Universe and blah, blah, blah, Thundercats

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or something else. I forget what it was. Without

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like these five pieces of media, I wouldn't be

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the same person that I am today kind of thing.

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I'd probably be some version of myself, but.

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And obviously Transformers is, Transformers and

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Knight Rider are the top two kind of thing. So

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for me, it's like, yeah, I mean, Transformers,

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the movie, I don't even have like, you want to

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talk about as soon as I hear lines, I don't even,

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I don't even have to watch. I don't even have

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to look at a screen. I can just hear the voices

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and I'm like, yep. I know that scene. I know

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that scene. Yep. I know what he's going to say

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there. Yep. Yep. Yep. And I just watch them all

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the time. Yep. Just pure enjoyment, folks. Pure

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enjoyment. That's what it's all about. And there

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are plenty of other animated movies besides these

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five, but these are usually the rotating five

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or the main five that's, you know, if I'm going

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to go to something that I need to just not necessarily

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actually shut my phone off, but just... Turn

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everything off, escape from everything. One of

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these five are going to be the one that I go

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to. So your list, sir, talk to me about your

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list. So my list, and again, if we had a top

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10, I would probably rank things a little bit

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differently, but... 10 ,000 years will give you

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such a crick in the neck. I must have hit my

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head harder than I thought. Do you smoke? Mind

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if I do? Oh, sorry, cheat. I hope I didn't sing

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the first. Yo, Rockman, haven't seen you in a

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few millennia. Give me some tassel. My number

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five, I started with Aladdin because as a kid,

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I used to go play that, like we didn't have Disney.

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So my neighbor across the street, my friend across

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the street had like the Disney movies. I watched

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the movie over there and I was like, holy crap,

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this is awesome. And then we played it on the

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Super Nintendo, another thing I didn't have.

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So I think it, It lived rent free in my head

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based on the fact that I was like, I don't have

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either of these things and it's really cool.

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And then they had the genie toys and, you know,

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they had all this, you know, awesome stuff. And

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I was like, I really like this, even though,

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you know, it wasn't that big of a deal. Yeah.

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But I loved Robin Williams as the genie and I

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loved kind of how everything else played out.

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I love the goofiness of it. I love just the fun

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of the movie, which I feel like a lot of movies

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have lost. Like they're really digging into your

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emotions or they're digging into your your politics

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or they're digging into, you know, there's the

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fun is kind of just like gone. They suck the

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fun out of the cartoons. They're either quick

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hits, they're crappy animation, or they're forgettable

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films. I can't tell you, when I was going through

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trying to find if there was anything modern in

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the last 25 years, I literally looked for a list

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of things in the last 25 years to see if there

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was anything that I could add to this. And the

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Dragon Ball movie was the only thing I could

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think of just off the top of my head. Everything

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great came from the 90s. And so other than like

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a couple of early 2000s things, like if I had

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my top 10, you know, I would have had like a

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Justice League Public Enemies or Justice League

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Doom in there, you know, stuff that kind of broke

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the. Well, I mean, I guess Toy Story 3 did break

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the 2000s as well, but still. I would have put

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Transformers one in there, you know, possibly,

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but not, not in my top 10 because again, it's

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kind of, it's, it's poor marketing too, but it's,

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it's ultimately how memorable is the film. So

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yeah, I mean, Transformers one was a good experience.

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It was a fun new experience. It was a fun. Here's

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the first time you're seeing this experience.

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Now let's see what we do next. Transformers 1

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was a good jumping on point to jump off to see

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whatever the hell they do next in the future.

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Transformers 1 is the setup to whatever the next

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part of the legacy is going to be. We're not

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here for that. We're here for that to begin it.

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But we don't make these lists, even if it's just

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a top five. We're not doing that to look at what's

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current. We make these lists to look at the nostalgia

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of it all. We always have and we always will.

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And even looking at the last 25 years, Titan

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AE was 25 years ago. It was in 2000. If, like

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you said, if we were doing top ten instead of

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top five, I would have put at least the first

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Lilo and Stitch. That movie was, oh man, I love

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watching Lilo and Stitch. I don't know how rewatchable

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it is, like on a constant repeat, but every couple

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of months, maybe once or twice a year kind of

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thing, yeah, sure, because Stitch is hilarious.

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That first movie is amazing. I have whole plans

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next year for... Who has plans? Plans, precious.

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That's not Stitch. No, I know. It's Gollum. I

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don't do Stitch. Stitch would rip Gollum in half.

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Just saying. Gollum's not all there in the head

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anyway. He got thrown off a mountain. Neither

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is Stitch. Well, he bit a ring off of Frodo's

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hand and fell into the pit. Oh, all right. Damn

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it. Well, we're going to have to talk about that

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later. But yeah, no. But yeah, I mean, it just...

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Anyway, all right. Go on with your list. What

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else you got? So my next entry was Toy Story

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3. And I put this in here because... I feel like

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this is the definitive closing point of Toy Story.

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Yep. Agreed. To be honest, I forgot they made

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a fourth one. Like, that's how forgettable the

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film was. I totally forgot they made a fourth

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one. And I mean, I remember the shorts. I remember

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the shorts because those were somewhat interesting.

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Yeah. But again, they were forgettable. Yeah.

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It's not even that the shorts are forgettable.

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The shorts are fine because the shorts, to me,

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are a message in the bottle. Yeah, the shorts

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to me, like you just said, are a message in the

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bottle. The shorts to me are a check -in. They

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are, hey, you want to see what these characters

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are up to? Here you go. Here's like a two -minute

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or a three -minute short, whatever, fine. And

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then all of a sudden, here comes Toy Story 4

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because we need to mess with the formula. We

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need to do this. We need to add to their story.

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We need to do more. We need to cool in the...

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Monday to Friday moron on this Monday to Friday

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plane decided that a spork had to be a Monday

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to Friday toy. And yes, folks, I know this is

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my podcast, mostly for the most part, even though

00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:30.640
overall it's mine and Steve's and it's overall

00:22:30.640 --> 00:22:32.720
the Geekcast Radio Network. And yes, there is

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an explicit tag on here, but I just like using

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the Monday to Friday playing Snakes on a Plane

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reference at this point because I don't want

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to use the mother trucking words right now. Two

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seconds later. Oh, fine. Screw it. Who the fuck

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played with a spork in the 80s? Or the 90s? Ain't

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nobody fucking played... Fuck! Nobody played

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with a fucking spork in a... It's so stupid.

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Toy Story 3 was a perfect ending. I don't know

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what they're going to do with Toy Story 5. I

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don't even remember the damn teaser. Did they

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release a teaser trailer for 5? Yeah. I don't

00:23:18.220 --> 00:23:20.579
even remember if they did or not. I don't think

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so. But if it was, it was a very brief teaser.

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Yeah, I think it was a brief teaser, something

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about the electronics and then voices. That's

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what it is. They're bringing in the electronics.

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Yes, that's what it is. They're going to have

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the toys versus the electronics. That's what

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Toy Story 5 is going to be. That's going to be

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freaking stupid. Oh, wow. We're going to fight

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the electronic toys now. That's because that's

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the only thing we have left. I hope that if they're

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going to do this, I hope that they do up to a

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Toy Story 6 and then just kill it. No. Unless

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they're going to have the computer stuff have

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AI and then they're going to... Well, that's

00:24:10.059 --> 00:24:12.460
what I think this one is. I think this one is

00:24:12.460 --> 00:24:15.450
going to have AI. I think that's what the electronics

00:24:15.450 --> 00:24:21.170
part of it is. I could be wrong, but I think

00:24:21.170 --> 00:24:24.349
that's what Toy Story 5 is, is Toy Story 5 AI.

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Oh, God. Anyway, the point is, like you said,

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Toy Story 3 was just that franchise just should

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have been a trilogy because that third movie

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was so good. What's next? So my next one is Transformers

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the movie. I put this here. For a couple of reasons.

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I do love this movie. I do. And it was hard for

00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:56.980
me to choose it between two or three. Right.

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However. I like beast wars more. And then transformers,

00:25:09.710 --> 00:25:12.990
the movie, while I do love this film in every

00:25:12.990 --> 00:25:15.609
capacity, we've got to get a new travel agent.

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I hate that they killed so many of the G one

00:25:18.269 --> 00:25:22.769
characters and replace them. I could see if they

00:25:22.769 --> 00:25:25.549
had them in tandem. Like I deal with that, you

00:25:25.549 --> 00:25:27.769
know, even if it was like a prime, you know,

00:25:27.769 --> 00:25:30.769
passing the torch moment where he's kind of taking

00:25:30.769 --> 00:25:33.390
a step back, like an alpha try on, you know,

00:25:33.390 --> 00:25:36.730
something like what happens in headmasters because,

00:25:37.180 --> 00:25:40.240
Hot Rod does get the Matrix back from Prime after

00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:48.519
that point. So I'm in favor of that. This is

00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:52.880
the best the graphics have ever been. Most cases,

00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:55.460
like when it comes to Prime and some of the fighting,

00:25:55.579 --> 00:25:58.920
yeah, of course, the bugging out of the Dinobot's

00:25:58.920 --> 00:26:02.720
eyes or some of the other goofy aspects in there

00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:05.460
or animation errors. Yes, I get it. And I kind

00:26:05.460 --> 00:26:09.119
of knock it for those reasons. But I love the

00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:12.319
voice cast. I love the music. I love the plot

00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:15.940
and everything else that happens in it. And I

00:26:15.940 --> 00:26:20.480
saw this after seeing Beast Wars. So it's high

00:26:20.480 --> 00:26:25.619
on my pedestal of geekdom. Yep. Not as high,

00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:32.180
but G1 is like... Autobots, transform and roll

00:26:32.180 --> 00:26:36.180
out! All of my fandoms are in my cabinet. I have

00:26:36.180 --> 00:26:39.220
Beast Wars, which is the biggest footprint. G1

00:26:39.220 --> 00:26:43.500
is a pretty decent chunk. Star Trek is a decent

00:26:43.500 --> 00:26:46.319
chunk. Dragon Ball Z is a decent chunk. And Power

00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:48.339
Rangers is a decent chunk. And then Hot Wheels.

00:26:48.859 --> 00:26:53.559
And then I have a little bit of Marvel and DC.

00:26:53.819 --> 00:26:57.619
But those were my childhood. All of those things.

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And so I love this film for those reasons. Ultimately,

00:27:03.349 --> 00:27:06.309
it had to take a pass just because I enjoy some

00:27:06.309 --> 00:27:08.730
other movies more to the point where I can rewatch

00:27:08.730 --> 00:27:13.230
them than this. I do rewatch this a lot, but

00:27:13.230 --> 00:27:15.630
I rewatch these other ones that are coming more.

00:27:16.250 --> 00:27:19.789
Yeah. All right. What's next? So this is the

00:27:19.789 --> 00:27:21.930
one I had the hard time with, whether it was

00:27:21.930 --> 00:27:25.670
Dragon Ball Z Resurrection of F or Dragon Ball

00:27:25.670 --> 00:27:29.289
Super Broly. I couldn't decide. Ultimately, it

00:27:29.289 --> 00:27:30.789
boils down to you get a lot of the backstory

00:27:30.789 --> 00:27:33.390
of the Saiyan race. in the beginning of the movie

00:27:33.390 --> 00:27:36.769
in the brawley film because it's showing the

00:27:36.769 --> 00:27:38.509
origins of brawley and then you see the origins

00:27:38.509 --> 00:27:42.089
of vegeta and goku and characters like that so

00:27:42.089 --> 00:27:45.450
you get the origin story of the race and so on

00:27:45.450 --> 00:27:47.089
and so forth and then it cuts to the present

00:27:47.089 --> 00:27:51.329
and then you do get the fusion battle of goku

00:27:51.329 --> 00:27:55.769
and vegeta and it canonizes gogeta for the first

00:27:55.769 --> 00:28:01.720
time okay and gogeta is literally The main reason

00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:06.500
I want to put that film in here, that, that fusion

00:28:06.500 --> 00:28:09.380
character, the moves are awesome. He's like almost

00:28:09.380 --> 00:28:11.880
unbeatable. It's like the perfect fusion, but

00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:15.200
there's a lot of animation inconsistencies and

00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:19.460
like a lot of animation stuff where before the

00:28:19.460 --> 00:28:22.299
battle, there's a lot of stuff where it seems

00:28:22.299 --> 00:28:24.519
like multiple animation studios touch this, or

00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:26.480
it's just really cheaply done where a lot of

00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:30.609
details lost. So. In that regard, I don't like

00:28:30.609 --> 00:28:32.750
that movie as much. Whereas Resurrection of F,

00:28:32.950 --> 00:28:35.930
I feel like was the bridge between Dragon Ball

00:28:35.930 --> 00:28:38.049
Z and Dragon Ball Super as far as the films.

00:28:38.430 --> 00:28:41.029
And it's while both of these are technically

00:28:41.029 --> 00:28:44.529
canonized in like Brawley is not a part of the

00:28:44.529 --> 00:28:47.670
series series itself, but is a part of the films.

00:28:48.190 --> 00:28:50.930
Resurrection of F was broken out into episodes

00:28:50.930 --> 00:28:59.269
kind of like the Batman Superman. gotcha so in

00:28:59.269 --> 00:29:03.230
that regard i i like that one more plus they

00:29:03.230 --> 00:29:07.329
bring back frieza and then they rebuild him and

00:29:07.329 --> 00:29:09.289
then he gets a new form and then he fights goku

00:29:09.289 --> 00:29:11.609
and vegeta and then you get some time travel

00:29:11.609 --> 00:29:13.390
he gets i don't know just overall it was just

00:29:13.390 --> 00:29:17.210
more satisfying film and i i really like dragon

00:29:17.210 --> 00:29:23.660
ball z so like i'm re -watching it again so Yeah.

00:29:23.779 --> 00:29:28.900
So, drumroll, what's your number one? Batman

00:29:28.900 --> 00:29:31.599
Mask of the Phantasm. What is that saying that

00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:35.779
life is what happens to you while you're busy

00:29:35.779 --> 00:29:39.079
making other plans? I never, ever planned on

00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:43.140
doing this kind of work. But let's get one thing

00:29:43.140 --> 00:29:45.519
straight. It takes more than a costume and an

00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:47.920
attitude to do this work. I chose this purely

00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:50.799
because this is the definitive origin story of

00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:55.240
Batman. The definitive origin story of like the

00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:59.019
joker of you know batman becoming batman a lot

00:29:59.019 --> 00:30:03.160
of the stuff that i mean even the the the nolan

00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:07.700
verse films copy aspects of this along with like

00:30:07.700 --> 00:30:11.900
year one and some other stuff i love this film

00:30:11.900 --> 00:30:14.380
for a variety of reasons but it's also the first

00:30:14.380 --> 00:30:19.279
movie i ever saw in theater so it holds a special

00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:22.299
place in my heart Although I still, I need to

00:30:22.299 --> 00:30:24.700
get a Blu -ray of this again, because I think

00:30:24.700 --> 00:30:28.079
when I did my mass DVD purge, I don't want this

00:30:28.079 --> 00:30:30.740
anymore. I have like two copies of Transformers,

00:30:30.740 --> 00:30:33.660
the movie, one, a DVD and one, the, the Blu -ray

00:30:33.660 --> 00:30:39.380
copy when shout was doing those. And I have that.

00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:42.400
I don't have return of the Joker anymore. I don't

00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:44.480
have like, I don't have a majority of my films,

00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:47.359
although I'm little by little collecting what

00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:51.390
I want, like the absolute one. I still have Beast

00:30:51.390 --> 00:30:53.250
Wars. I still have Beast Machines. I still have,

00:30:53.349 --> 00:30:56.930
like I said, the Transformers movie DVD and Blu

00:30:56.930 --> 00:31:01.910
-ray. I would probably pick this up again, like

00:31:01.910 --> 00:31:04.710
The Mask of the Phantasm. I don't want that 80

00:31:04.710 --> 00:31:09.369
-year Batman collective because I don't have

00:31:09.369 --> 00:31:11.970
the ambition. I don't really care about half

00:31:11.970 --> 00:31:17.230
the films that are in there. Or I already have

00:31:17.230 --> 00:31:19.890
them. And there's a lot of animated ones in there

00:31:19.890 --> 00:31:21.970
that I'm like, if they had replaced them with

00:31:21.970 --> 00:31:24.130
like justice league or Batman Superman films,

00:31:24.230 --> 00:31:27.430
I would have been more like the public enemies

00:31:27.430 --> 00:31:29.670
or, you know, stuff like that. I would have been

00:31:29.670 --> 00:31:32.049
more apt to go for it, but I, I don't like some

00:31:32.049 --> 00:31:34.890
of the other ones that are in there. So I'll

00:31:34.890 --> 00:31:39.329
probably eventually get this again, but that

00:31:39.329 --> 00:31:41.869
is like my definitive favorite Batman, favorite

00:31:41.869 --> 00:31:45.730
Joker, favorite, you know, cast overall of everything.

00:31:46.509 --> 00:31:50.579
And. I, it's still a movie. I go back and rewatch

00:31:50.579 --> 00:31:55.019
a couple of times a year. Yeah, absolutely. I,

00:31:55.140 --> 00:32:00.859
when, Hey, cause I future -proofed myself years

00:32:00.859 --> 00:32:05.559
ago. I've told this story before, but in 2018,

00:32:05.779 --> 00:32:10.640
Karen and I had said we can get each other one

00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:14.720
big tech present. She wanted a new laptop because

00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:18.900
we had just moved into our new house. And we

00:32:18.900 --> 00:32:23.880
had this giant master bedroom thing, and the

00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:27.440
bedroom had a whole surround sound system built

00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:31.240
into it. Oh, that's cool. I'm like, yeah. That's

00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:35.880
why I have my 55 -inch 4K Sharp, because it's

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a Sharp -branded TV, because nobody... I don't

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even know if Sharp still does TVs. I don't even

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know if there's... But back when Sharp was an

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electronics company, that... was a major brand

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we bought it because it was a 4k tv in 2018 and

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it was like on sale at best buy for like 350

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bucks when normally the 4k tvs back then were

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like 800 900 a thousand dollars it's like she

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got her hp laptop high -end all all decked out

00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:11.359
whatever i got this tv and i still have this

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55 inch tv it's currently mounted up in the wall

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in my bedroom So I've had a 4K television since

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2018 and 2021 after she passed. One of the things

00:33:24.349 --> 00:33:26.650
I went out and did was I went out and looked

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for a 4K Blu -ray player. And Sony had one at

00:33:31.730 --> 00:33:34.970
whatever, I forget where it was. And they had

00:33:34.970 --> 00:33:39.990
just announced Mask of the Phantasm on 4K. So

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I have, and I'm looking at it right now on Amazon.

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Mask of the Phantasm, 4K Ultra HD, and I'm sure

00:33:48.730 --> 00:33:55.970
it plays in other players. $15. The Blu -ray

00:33:55.970 --> 00:34:02.210
is $20. Nice. But I have that. Back in 2019,

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when they were doing the 80th anniversary of

00:34:05.710 --> 00:34:10.610
Batman, they released Batman Beyond on Blue.

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And it came with Return of the Joker on Blu -ray,

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so I've got that. Oh, yes. But think of the fun.

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But yeah, no, Mask of the Phantasm, you know,

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you're right. It's definitely the definitive.

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Have you seen the rumors going around about this?

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About what? Mask of the Phantasm. No. Oh, my

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God. I don't believe half the crap I read online

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or half the crap, especially on Instagram. I

00:34:46.179 --> 00:34:48.760
don't believe anything on, like... i know anymore

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or i know sites because like people write these

00:34:51.579 --> 00:34:56.179
long diatribes in in with a you know yeah a picture

00:34:56.179 --> 00:34:58.000
of something and then make it look like it came

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from this person or was said by this person and

00:35:00.179 --> 00:35:02.340
it's actually yeah totally unrelated or it's

00:35:02.340 --> 00:35:05.860
not even nothing everyone's trying to make it

00:35:05.860 --> 00:35:08.780
look like the next thing scarlett johansson is

00:35:08.780 --> 00:35:13.239
gonna do is that she's gonna be that she's going

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to be Andrea Beaumont and they're going to do

00:35:15.579 --> 00:35:18.940
Mask of the... Like, DC should do Mask of the

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Phantasm now that Gunn is in charge and blah,

00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:26.820
blah, blah, blah, blah. So, Joe, that one with...

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Scar Jo. Yeah, she's going to join or trying

00:35:33.500 --> 00:35:36.179
to join The Batman, which is totally unrelated

00:35:36.179 --> 00:35:40.760
to James Gunn's Batman. Right, I know. So...

00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:44.719
I'm like looking at that and I'm like, you got

00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:46.820
to be kidding me. It's totally unrelated. So

00:35:46.820 --> 00:35:48.119
there's no way they're going to go that route.

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Plus, no, I get the feeling they're going to

00:35:50.420 --> 00:35:53.679
go with the blue cowl with the gray. Yeah. With

00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:59.659
the 89, you know, yeah. And I'm kind of all for

00:35:59.659 --> 00:36:01.460
it because it'll be something different because

00:36:01.460 --> 00:36:04.119
we've always had like the black and the yellow

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with black, with black, with black, with gray,

00:36:06.739 --> 00:36:09.179
which was a step in the right direction. And

00:36:09.179 --> 00:36:11.269
then we went. total black again. So it's like,

00:36:11.289 --> 00:36:13.050
please give us some other color, like something

00:36:13.050 --> 00:36:15.889
brighter, you know, something, I don't know,

00:36:15.909 --> 00:36:20.150
not, not Adam West, but not, yeah, not the crap

00:36:20.150 --> 00:36:25.630
we had something like, uh, the new adventures

00:36:25.630 --> 00:36:33.550
like gray needs. The suit itself needs to be

00:36:33.550 --> 00:36:41.210
gray. Pretty much like, um, Mask of the Phantasm.

00:36:41.489 --> 00:36:45.889
Like, the suit itself is gray. The emblem is

00:36:45.889 --> 00:36:50.050
yellow with a black bat. That's fine. And the

00:36:50.050 --> 00:36:56.989
cape is black. Let's see what else. What else

00:36:56.989 --> 00:37:04.099
was there? Something else. I don't know. But,

00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:07.940
yeah, top five animated films from us folks here

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inside Studio 2009. This is episode 160. Like

00:37:12.619 --> 00:37:14.579
I already said, we've got a bunch of stuff coming

00:37:14.579 --> 00:37:17.559
up for the end of the year. Coming up next, Steve

00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:19.840
and I will be doing something we've never done

00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:23.679
because I've never seen either film. There's

00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:28.500
just never films I don't ever remember. Maybe

00:37:28.500 --> 00:37:31.239
when I was a kid, but I barely remember them.

00:37:31.300 --> 00:37:34.099
48 hours and then another 48 hours. We're going

00:37:34.099 --> 00:37:38.219
to do those as two individual episodes. So it's

00:37:38.219 --> 00:37:41.599
Murphy and Nolte. So we're going to do those.

00:37:41.659 --> 00:37:44.539
So that's what's coming up next. No ad break

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this time around. I'm too old and too tired and

00:37:48.280 --> 00:37:52.989
I don't feel like editing anymore. Because I've

00:37:52.989 --> 00:37:56.929
edited a lot and I will be editing a lot. Any

00:37:56.929 --> 00:37:59.630
promotions you'd like to do before I run through

00:37:59.630 --> 00:38:04.530
the closing, sir? No, just other than our top

00:38:04.530 --> 00:38:08.449
100 animated series that we're about to go down

00:38:08.449 --> 00:38:11.809
the rabbit hole with again. And we've already

00:38:11.809 --> 00:38:15.829
published the fan vote. So now we just need fans

00:38:15.829 --> 00:38:19.039
to vote. And then. We can add that to the top

00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:21.480
100 and we can have some fun with it come next

00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:23.980
year. And I'll be sending out notices soon to

00:38:23.980 --> 00:38:28.860
our past contributors. Awesome. Very cool. Very

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cool. All right, folks. Thank you for joining

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