GREAT SCOTT – THIS IS HEAVY! – BACK TO THE FUTURE's TIMELESSNESS!

Hi, this is Eddie from Big Ed's Barbecue in Waukegan,

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Radio Network. Sucker. Hey, it's Mistress Carrie,

and you are listening to Studio 2009. See if

you can do 90 back to the future. Hello and welcome back

into our studio. You are now inside Studio 2009,

only on the Geekcast Radio Network. I am TFGO

and Mike. Joining me once again, as always, is

Mr. David Draper. Hello, sir. How are you? I'm

doing all right. How about you? Pretty good,

pretty good. In the continuity of the podcast,

you would have heard Dave two episodes ago in

episode 183 when we did the 50th anniversary

of Jaws. Jeez. This is weird. Yeah, folks, this

is episode 185 and we are celebrating the 40th

anniversary of Back to the Future. Today and...

I didn't tell Dave about this beforehand. I guess

I should have warned him, but just go with it,

folks. Today we lace up our Nikes, we eat our

Wheaties, and we'll grab a Big Mac on the way

to, oh, wait, wrong movie. That movie wouldn't

happen until 11 years later. Great Scott, this

is heavy. Are you telling me you built a time

machine out of a DeLorean? Yes, folks. You know,

I thought, first of all, the metal structure,

and secondly, I thought, if you're going to build

a time machine, might as well do it with a style.

That's right. That's right. Absolutely. Absolutely.

You know, one of the things I love about this

movie is I'm not a car. Maybe it's just me. I

don't know because I'm not a car guy. Okay. I

think it was like, it was sometime into the 90s

that I realized the joke of that line. Uh -huh.

Because my first introduction to the DeLorean

was Back to the Future. Right. Mine too. It was

the coolest car I'd ever seen. I remember when

I was in college, we saw a DeLorean at the mall.

I was like, that's so cool. I didn't realize

that the DeLorean sucked. The whole reason that

it was a joke because it was like a Ford Edsel

or a Pinto. Now it would be like a Cybertruck.

You made a time machine out of a Cybertruck?

You know, 14 -year -old me, I thought it was

the coolest goddamn thing I'd ever seen in my

life. It was like, this is the coolest car I

want when I grow up. But it's like, I didn't

know it was a joke. Yeah. Oh. Oh. Oh, God. I

didn't even think. When they first unveiled that

with the silver and the. angles. I didn't even

think to think of... Oh, my God. Could you imagine?

Thank God Dark Brown had more style than that.

Oh, boy. We won't get a remake until... I just

forgot his name. What's his name? Dyes. Not Zemeckis.

The guy you wrote. Bob Gale. They sort of have

a blood pact. They will never remake it. No,

they will never remake it. Which is a shame,

because I think 2015 would have been the perfect

time to do it. Because in Part 2, they go to

2015. Yep. And it would have been cool, because

then they would have gone back to 85. This is

one of those movies where my mom really loved

it, because she grew up in the 50s. Right. So

it would have been cool to have that same kind

of, oh, it's the 80s for us. Also, you could

do the same joke. It could be, who's president?

Barack Obama. And it's like, what do those words

even mean? Yeah. So, folks, just to let you know,

here inside Studio 2009, we are doing the entire

trilogy. My calculations are correct. When this

baby hits 88 miles per hour, you're going to

see some serious shit. All right, folks, TFG1

Mike from the future. I have to pump the brakes

on this DeLorean really quick because I have

to let you know it is now currently 2026 when

I am editing this episode. I am so sorry, as

everyone should know by now, I am one year out

from editing everything we published or not published,

but everything we produced. for content on the

podcast in 2025 so as dave and i are mentioning

that it's the 40th anniversary of back to the

future it is actually the 41st anniversary of

back to the future so please don't dox us in

the comments because this podcast is a year old

and since recording this episode i now have the

trilogy of films on 4k and they look amazing

in 4k Absolutely amazing. Now back to the show.

This is the 40th anniversary of the first film.

I don't do like. I will online through typing

or whatever. I will do, Hey, this is the 31st

or the 32nd or the 33rd anniversary of whatever

the thing is. But on podcasts, I don't do that.

I only do anniversaries in 10, 20, 30, 40, 25,

35. I only do it in tens and fives kind of thing.

I don't do the 32nd anniversary of this blah,

blah, blah for a podcast episode. I just don't

do that. However, we are going to do the second

film, and then we will do the 35th anniversary

of the third film. So we are doing the entire

trilogy with myself and Dave. And for the second

film, my intro to that, oh boy, it's going to

be a doozy. Quick question. I don't remember,

even though we've been friends a long -ass time.

Are you an only child, or do you have siblings?

An only child. Okay, so we are both only children.

Well, then that photograph means nothing to us.

Oh, the one where the siblings disappear? Yeah,

I was going to see if you had siblings, if we

were going to have any kind of allegory to the

photograph, if it was going to mean anything.

But yeah, no. Oh, well. Well, I mean, I understood

the concept of siblings. Well, yeah. Yeah, we

understand the concept, but as he's going through

that part of it, we're not even to that part

of the movie, but as he's going during that part

of the movie when he's like, ow, my arm, I can't

play anymore. Yeah, that's the end of the film.

Well, yeah, no, no, no, I know, but I'm saying

I couldn't remember if you were lonely only like

me or if you had siblings to where we could actually

discuss the... actual ramifications of all of

that. Back to the Future, along with Transformers

and Star Trek and a bunch of other things, has

been a backbone of the Geekcast Radio Network

since our inception June 1st, 2009. We launched

our movie podcast at the time back then, July

11th, 2009. Movie Week in Review, Episode 1.

was the Back to the Future trilogy where myself,

Steve Megatron, and our other friend Steve Saylor,

we all discussed the trilogy back then. We have

discussed the trilogy over and over and over

again. And in, I think it was 20, when was that?

When did that happen? Back to... Sometime in,

when was that first issue? It was, no, it was

not then. In 2015, surprisingly enough, IDW Publishing

launched with Bob Gale. I'm pretty sure he was

writing on that. I don't know who else was at

the time, but IDW Publishing launched a Back

to the Future comic book series. And I have the

list of the collected editions as, as of what,

uh, what they published because we, we did the

pull bag, uh, podcast in trade paperback for

the coverage for when we covered it stuff. So

it had five, the main series had five total trade

paperbacks untold tales and alternate timelines

continuum conundrum. Who is Marty McFly? a hard

time and then time served. It had two like one

-off kind of things, one called citizen Brown

and then one called Biff to the future. So two

mini series, uh, which Biff to the future was

awesome. Absolutely love that. And then it had

a one -time crossover transformers back to the

future, which is how you got gigawatt. I have

the toy. Yes, yes, yes, yes. So those are the

comics. Back to the Future, the first film, 1985,

July 3rd, 1985. I didn't even have to look at

the Wikipedia for that one. This film is 116

minutes. It had a budget. This movie had a budget

of $19 million. Now, I know generally, even now,

$19 million is a lot of money, but back then,

$19 million was a lot of money. It was a decent

chunk. Well, it was. I mean, Jedi, which came

out a couple years earlier, like two years earlier,

was $30 something, $36, I think. Yeah, it was

a big chunk. It was a chunk of money. They didn't

make $100 million movies back then. Whoops. When

you said Jedi, my first typing of the three letters

was not R -E -T, it was R -E -V. I'm like, wait,

that's not how that's spelled. The budget ranged,

according to this, 32 .5 to 42 .7. And it made

$482 million. But yeah, Back to the Future had

a budget of $19 million, made $398 million, so

profitable. Yeah. Obviously. I was five years

old when this movie came out. You were... 14.

You were 14? Wow. Yeah. Uh, I did not see this

movie until I think the second one was in theaters.

So I was nine years old in 1989. I remember seeing

this on VHS at the time. So I saw it in theaters

back in the day. Um, I've, I've saw it in concert.

Like they do a thing where like, I think I've

mentioned this before where they'll take the,

the, the soundtrack out, not the, the audio,

but the... Not the dialogue, but the music. And

then the local symphony will play the soundtrack.

They do that in St. Louis a lot. I know they

do it in other places because a couple of movies

have gone on tour, but I do St. Louis. But anyway,

that was the first one I ever did. It was Back

to the Future. It was cool because Bob Gale is

from St. Louis. And he came out before the movie

and did a little introductory... The whole thing

was he was going through his dad's stuff in the

attic and he found his dad's yearbook from high

school. He saw a picture of him and he's like,

I wonder if we would have been friends. And that

was how he came up with the idea for Back to

the Future. Yeah, very cool. It's always nice

when you get to hear the stuff from the people

that made the film. I've always loved that kind

of stuff. I love... uh directors uh commentary

i especially with movies i've seen a million

times i've seen this movie a lot in the last

40 years i don't often watch it a lot in the

preparation for this when i when i watch this

movie this is a move back to the future is a

movie i didn't like i i watched it last night

i didn't feel like i had to watch it because

as i was watching it I literally remembered every

line, every scene, every, everything about this

because it is so ingrained in me. Like all three

of these movies, there's nothing that I have

forgotten in the last 40, 35 X number of years,

decades, because it's just always been with me.

It always has. Before this, the last time I saw

Back to the Future was probably about five or

ten years ago, maybe. Technically, I could safely

say the last time I saw it was when we did it

for the first episode of Movie We Can Review

back in 2009, but between 2009 and now, I would

probably say the last time I just... turned it

on to turn it on was probably somewhere around

2012 2013 they had just well i just saw it i

literally just saw it in the theaters they uh

they re -released it for the 40th and i got the

popcorn bucket is a very very generous term for

this thing a little it's got a little slide out

it's the delorean it's got a little tiny slide

out tray that holds you know maybe a handful

of kernels and we were uh Supposed to see it

in IMAX. I was told it was going to be in IMAX.

We went to the IMAX theater. We were sitting

there. And about halfway through the trailers,

I was like, I did not realize that Back to the

Future was a Japanese movie. Every trailer was

like, you know, Fathom, animate this, animate

that. And I'm like, this is a lot of anime for

Back to the Future. And my friend who bought

the tickets checked, and he's like, oh, it's

not in IMAX. We're in the wrong theater. So we

also saw Chainsaw Man. Oh, no. Fortunately, we

got into the right theater in time, and we saw

Back to the Future on a big screen. Not the big

screen, but... And big screen. So... It was fun.

It's weird, because the last two seasons I've

seen this film have been in the theater. Yeah.

I haven't really revisited it on video for a

long time. I haven't revisited a lot of... When

I was a kid, When I was a teenager and I had

a VCR, there were probably a dozen, maybe 20

movies that I watched over and over again. And

Back to the Future was on that list. I think

once I got through college, I stopped doing that.

Back to the Future, Raiders, Jaws, the Star Wars

movies, I would watch them constantly. Honestly,

because we did this, we were going to do this.

We've been talking about doing this all summer.

It's been like... After I saw the movie in the

theaters, I was like, I want to watch 2 and 3.

I wanted to wait until we got to that point where

we were going to record so I could be a little

more fresh. Right, yeah. So my plan was, and

unfortunately my medical issues... Yeah, stuff

happened. No, no, no. Between my medical issues,

my financial issues, and other issues, this year,

because it is the 40th of the first film, All

three movies were released on 4K, and my thing

for the last four or five years has been getting

discs on 4K, getting physical media, because

you never know when the Internet is going to

go down completely and you can't watch your streaming

services or you can't watch your digital media

that you buy. I am 100 % on board with that.

I just don't. I'm not all 4K about it, but other

than that, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no.

I understand you're not, and I get that. But

when this was announced on, I was like, oh, great,

awesome. When it got time to do the pre -order,

I'm like, okay, I'll pre -order it. When it got

time to do the pre -order, I'm like, crap, I

don't have it. So I had to cancel the pre -order.

I wanted to get it on 4k. And then I was like,

okay, I have to watch these movies. Where am

I watching these movies? And I've known that

I've had them on a Fandango for the longest time

used to be voodoo. And I looked at it and I'm

like, crap, I only have it in standard definition.

Like I bought them like years ago, like just

years ago when it was just nothing but standard

definition. And I was like, okay, so where are

they streaming? They've got to be streaming somewhere.

It's back to the freaking future. I mean, come

on. So at least until the end of the month, Netflix

has them streaming all three movies. And I'm

like, oh, good. We're going to be doing this

within the next week and a half or less. So good.

I can watch all three movies in whatever definition

that's higher than standard that Netflix has.

but I do plan on getting them. I do plan on getting

the trilogy pack on 4k eventually, hopefully

for Christmas. But, uh, but yeah, no, it's like,

I don't know. I just back to the future. It's

in my blood. Like a lot of the other stuff that

I love. And are these move? Like there are some

movies that I can put on as background noise.

Cause I've seen them like transformers, the movie,

as much as I love that movie. At this point,

it's kind of background for me because I've analyzed

it so much over the past 39 years. I've discussed

it so much over the past 17 years of me being

a podcaster. I don't need to like there's really

other than the same stuff I've said in the last

17 years. There's not much more. There's not

many more angles. I'm wondering what Shout Factory

is going to do for a release next year for the

40th anniversary of Transformers, the movie,

because they released the ultimate, ultimate,

whatever cut of the movie it was for the last

anniversary. I'm like, what else can you guys

do other than have the stuff pop out of our TV

screens? I don't know. But anyway, yeah, back

to the future. What did you remember most about

the first film before catching up with it this

time? The music. I definitely, like, I love the

Alan Silvestri theme. Yep. The car. Like, well,

it's weird because, like, I say that I remember

the car, but I really think I remember the one

from the second film, you know, with the Mr.

Fusion. Yep. Because whenever I see, like, because

I've got, like, you know, I've got various, like,

models and toys of the DeLorean. And it's always,

like, I'll notice something. I'm like, I don't

remember ever seeing that. Like, I don't remember

that in the movie. I don't remember, you know,

like, little things that look like missiles on

the side. And it's like, what are those? But

I definitely remember the car. I remember probably

the best, my strongest memories are of the sequence

at the Twin Pine Mall. Twin Pines Mall. The beginning,

when you first see the car. Arnie and Doc and

establishing Einstein going through time. All

that stuff up until he goes to the 1950s is probably

my strongest memories. And then at the end when

he's going back, they're getting the car ready

and the tree falls and it screws up the... Extension

cords. I don't think of a proper name for them.

And Doc's phone. That sequence at the end and

the sequence at the beginning are the two that

I have the strongest memories of. I love the

little details because it's the Twin Pine Mall.

And at the end, he runs back to the Lone Pine

Mall. The Lone Pine Mall. Because he smashed

one of the pines on the way out. Little stuff

like they do that again. I know they do that

again in Part 3. Of course, the Eastwood Gorge.

Yeah. Poor Clint Eastwood. But, yeah, those are

the ones I have the strongest memories of. I

kind of, like, I knew this stuff happened before

then, but it was sort of like, it was interesting,

like, that stuff at the beginning kind of, I

don't want to say drags, but, you know, it's

longer than I thought it was. You know, the stuff

about him going to school, going to Doc's place.

then going to school, and then his family. It's

all very important stuff to establish. Because

you're setting up all the stuff that's going

to be different down the road. That's the whole

point, is to establish this sort of really unfortunate

reality for Marty. Lion Estates is kind of a

crappy place to live, which is funny because

it's like a run -down place in Marty's time.

And then when he goes back in time, it's like

the... The wonderful homestead of the future,

Lion Estates, coming soon. It's kind of scary

how quickly a place can go downhill in 30 years.

That's the stuff I remember. I remember the science

fiction -y stuff with the car the most. I think

the car is my favorite part of the movie, and

when the theme song is pumping and the car is

racing, that's the movie for me. I'm aware of

all the 1950s stuff. It's cute. They give him

a hard time because his vest looks like a life

jacket. I'd like a Pepsi free. You got to pay

for it. Just give me a tab. You got to buy something

before it can start. I love that kind of dialogue

where he's trying to order something from the

80s and they have no idea what he's talking about.

There's little details like Doc's house burnt

down. Doc has a big, huge, beautiful house and

he's been living in his garage. Yeah, that's

the stuff I remember the most. Yeah, very cool,

very cool. Yeah, so he goes into the diner, asks

for a Pepsi free, and we go into that whole thing,

and he ends up getting a cup of coffee. And my

thing is, even if you're getting a cup of coffee,

you're still going to pay for the fucking coffee.

do you not have any, like, I know you're a teenager.

I know you're a school. Like he's okay. So let's

just get this out of the way so we can set this

up for the other episodes. He's supposed to be

a 17 year old high school student because we

have to make sure the math lines up 17. When

we go into the future, 30 years, he's 47, yada,

yada, yada, yada, yada. Like, I know he doesn't

have a job because he's a high school slacker

and doesn't... I don't know how. I mean... I

honestly don't know how Marty gets... He gets

an allowance. Didn't you get an allowance? Yeah,

but, like, they don't even talk about that. Like,

they don't even mention that. Wow. His parents,

like, okay, one line, like, one little bitty

line. Like, his dad could say, oh, Marty, here's

your allowance. Or, oh, Marty, come here. Or,

you know, he could say, oh, blah, blah, blah.

Something little, tiny, whatever. Or he could

have just, like. He could have just forked over

the cash for the coffee before he ran out of

the thing. Didn't even have to say a line. Didn't

he put change down on the counter? I honestly

don't remember at this point. I'm pretty sure

he put some change down. And I was like, isn't

that 1980s coins? Like, I guess the guy didn't

look at it too hard. I'm pretty sure he put some

change down. Okay. All right. I'm like 80 % that

he put. And also, like, didn't he have. It wasn't

really established because, again, it wasn't

really that important. Doc has the suitcase of

all the bills from all the different eras. Okay.

Yeah, you're right. I don't know if that was

in the car or I don't know if he loaded. I think

because he was ready to go by the time. Yeah,

he was. You're right. You're right. I keep forgetting

about Doc having all the various timeline money.

I always forget about that because it's such

a. They did establish it, and you weren't paying

attention. No, I just forgot about it. You're

right. You're right. Okay. All right. I don't

know. For me, what I remember about this is practically

everything, and this time I was paying attention

kind of to the changes to see. It's kind of like

his line. Okay, guys, this is the tempo. This

is this. Keep your eyes on me for the changes.

Oh, boy. The decor changes between the original

McFly house and the new McFly house after the

future changes. Wow. That's crazy. You know what's

weird? Their house is much nicer, and they've

obviously got more money. Yeah. Like, they also

make a big deal that it's George's first book.

Yeah. Like, your first book is here. And it's

like, well, then... Like, because, you know,

the impression is, oh, he became a famous novelist.

But he hadn't yet. No? Because his first book

was here. Yeah. That was a little weird. Well,

I think... The first book being there is more

so of... Those are his... It was the new book,

but it was... Because he actually said, Biff

actually says, your first book. Yeah. Somebody

says your first book. Yeah. Also, it is a little

weird. They kind of deal with it in the second

film, but they make a big deal that Lion Estates

is kind of run down. Right. I don't know why

it would be nicer because of things Marty...

Wouldn't they be in a different house? Maybe.

They've got money, and they're doing better.

And it's weird, because Dave has an office job,

but he's living at home, and the sister also

looks more put together. Why are you guys still

at home? You have an office job. Go away. You're

wearing a suit and tie. Get out. Get a house.

This isn't 2025. Get a home. Yeah. The thing

about the book though, I will say that sometimes

what they will do is they will do the promotion

and everything else and all this and all that

and everything else. And they will like, as they're

doing all of that, you get sent your copies.

As everything is hitting, so if the book becomes

a success, even though it's your first book,

if it becomes an overnight success and the money

gets rolling in, that's the only way I could

see it. But that house isn't like an overnight

house. Okay, well, I mean, time travel. The inside

of that house kind of changed overnight. I mean,

I don't know. You know what I mean. It's not

like they were living in one house one day and

then, oh, my book is selling really well. Oh,

no. They don't have copies of it yet, so I'm

going to furnish the house and buy Marty a truck.

Oh, and then the promotion is happening. I'm

just saying it's a weird thing. I get that it's

weird, but it struck me as weird that it was

– I just wish they had been like, oh, your new

book. Yeah. To establish that you've been an

author for some time. Yeah. At the beginning

of the movie, look, I know Marty's a teenager.

I know teenagers love everything loud. But why

would you turn all of that up that damn loud

and stand right in front of it knowing? He's

a teenager. Well, first of all, it's for a joke.

Second of all, teenagers have a very poor grasp

of. What life's going to be like in their forties

or fifties, you know, they're like, Oh, I'm not

going to go deaf. I'm not going to, I'm not going

to, you know, be crippled. I'm, I'm, I'm going

to loud and blah, blah, blah. And then they get

to their, they're like, I can't hear anything.

Um, you know, they don't, they don't, they don't

know no better. They're stupid. That's why I

was supposed to go to school. Uh, speaking of

school, are those my clocks? Yeah. They're all

going off at the same time. It's, it's eight

o 'clock. Great. My experiment worked. They're

all 25 minutes slow. 25 minutes slow. Damn, Doc.

I'm late for school. And then Power of Love kicks

in and we go truck surfing. Oh, boy. Him trucks.

Oh, boy. So he gets to school. We meet Mr. Principal.

Mr. Principal is none other than the future.

Is he the principal or is he the vice principal?

I don't know. It's usually the vice principal

that deals with that kind of stuff. True. Very

true. I don't know. But Mr. Strickland would

go on to be in Top Gun. He would go on to be

in Masters of the Universe. I love this guy.

He just has that look. He just has that voice.

You're a slacker, McFly, just like your father.

Very, very awesome. We get to the band auditions,

and what a cameo. I was going to say, what a

cameo. I'm afraid you're just too darn loud.

We never see those other guys again. Nope. Marty's

pals, Marty's band. Yep. Nope. Do you know what

this means? It means this damn thing doesn't

work at all. I love Doc. One thing I didn't know,

I didn't know until seeing it this last time,

and my friend was like, oh, like one of Biff's

goons, speaking of cameos, is Billy Zane? Yep.

I didn't know that. This is the first film. I

don't know about his future. I don't know about

Griff's goons. The second one? Yeah. Oh. Oh,

my God. Wait, really? No way. I didn't know that.

Fascinating. Oh, my. Wow. Yeah, fascinating.

I'm about to, like, I didn't even remember this.

Do you know who Lorraine's father is? No. I didn't

notice this until now, and I should have noticed

by the voice. Cast appearing in the 1955 portion

includes George DeCenzo as Lorraine's father.

Hordak from She -Ra is Lorraine's father. The

voice of Hordak in She -Ra, Princess of... Back

to the Future has a He -Man connection. Oh, my

God. I never knew that. I've seen this movie

so many damn times, I never knew that was George

DeCenzo. This is the first time I've ever...

Obviously, I've seen Back to the Future multiple

times, but this is the first time I've realized

that that's who that was. Back to the Future

is probably the only movie I've ever seen George

DeCenzo in live action. I don't ever... I'm going

down his filmography. Yeah. Frisco Kid. Ooh,

that's a good film. Yeah, it's a good film. House

of Dark Shadows from 70. Going Home, 71. Las

Vegas Lady, 75. He was in Close Encounters of

the Third Kind in 77. Major Benchley. Gangster

Wars in 81. Back to the Future. About Last Night.

Walk Like a Man. Yeah, I've never seen him in

anything else. Even in the TV shows that he was

in. He was in Kojak in 75. I'm surprised he wasn't

in Columbo. He was in the Rockford Files. I'm

really surprised he wasn't in Columbo. He was

in Magnum. Interesting. Oh, wow. He was Ubu in

Batman the Animated Series. Huh. Interesting.

Anyway. Yeah, that's – there's your – I was looking

– the reason why I even brought – I was looking

for the bullies. That's what I was looking for,

to see where the bullies come in. Speaking of

cross whatever, you know that Hill Valley is

the same set they filmed Kingston Falls on from

Gremlins. Oh, nice. Interesting. It's the same

town. Yeah. Very cool. Very cool. Maybe we can

send the gremlins back to the past. That would

be very bad. Well, first of all, they'd screw

up the time machine. That's not be a good idea.

No, not be a good idea at all. So let's see.

The one thing that I wanted to bring up this

time around and discussing this film is the line

where Marty says to. Doc, he's never stood up

to Biff in his life. And then Doc's like, never?

Question mark, question mark, question mark.

No, why? What's the matter? Is this ever answered?

Because Doc then just basically... No, because

they're rushed for time to get the machine, to

get the thing, to get the thing, the lightning

strike. So there's no time to talk about it.

And he's just like, okay, well, we'll worry about

that. You know, we don't have time to... The

implication is to set up that the future is going

to be different. That's the whole point. Okay.

It's a subtle little like, oh, well, he did this

time and there's going to be changes. Okay. Right.

But I think my question is more about is this

ever brought up? Is this ever answered throughout

the rest of the franchise? When? I don't know

when. When did they have time to sit down and

go, let's talk about this one little change that

you made. I mean, that's kind of the whole point

of the earlier film. Like, okay, when he gets

home, he sees the truck, Jennifer shows up, go

to the future. When are they going to stop and

talk about the fact that George McFly is no longer

a loser? And it was also a positive one that

didn't end up. True. It caused the kids to be

better. It caused the entire neighborhood to

be better. True. That line literally exists to

prime the audience to expect the future will

be different. Okay. I was just kind of curious,

especially with what happens in the second movie.

I was wondering if it ever was brought up. if

it was ever answered. And it obviously never

is. Again, when? They go to the future to stop

Marty Jr. from falling in with Griff's gang.

There's no time for this conversation, ironically.

And yet they have all the time in the world because

they have a time machine. Well, they very rarely

ever use... Well, I mean, first of all, it's

a very temperamental time machine. which rarely

works the way they want it to. Also, the one

time that he does try to take advantage of that,

the fact that it's a DeLorean kicks in and it

stops working, so he's got to run to the Lone

Pine Mall. Remember, folks, don't ever lend one

rich egomaniac a lot of narcotics. Okay. That's

an old joke. It's an old auto -nim joke. Comedian

I used to know, Al April, used to do these auto

-nims. So you take the first letter of whatever

the car make or model or whatever is and you

make sentences. You make words out of each of

the first letters. Ford is found on road dead

or first on race day or whatever. Ford backwards,

drivers return on foot. So DeLorean is... Don't

ever lend one rich egomaniac a lot of narcotics

because of who John DeLorean was. Back to the

Future, 40 years. This film, they captured lightning

in a bottle with this movie. I absolutely love

it. It's a movie that I wasn't even... Some movies

that are this long, Even though 116 minutes,

almost two hours, doesn't feel that long to me.

Some movies like this, I'll feel like I'll have

to check the clock. This did not feel that long

to me. This felt like it zoomed by. It's well

written. It's well acted. For practical effects

and stunts for 40 years ago, I think those hold

up. I agree. First of all, even though it is

a science fiction movie, there really aren't

that many... The DeLorean shoots out some things

before it goes through time, but aside from it

flying at the end, there really aren't that many

special effects. It's all setting and design.

The film looks great. Okay, besides... Yeah,

the DeLorean stuff is practical effects, but

like... I don't know. I guess what I mean by

practical effect is if you made this movie today...

It would all be CGI and terrible. Okay, yeah.

Yes, but like... It'd be filmed on the volume.

It'd be filmed inside that Disney Mandalorian

thing. That's the volume. Okay, I wasn't sure

if it had a name or not, but the hook line would

be CGI. That's at least a practical thing. The

bench that the homeless guy is sleeping on, at

least that's real. It's a setting, I know, but

it is what it is. Did the film keep our interest

throughout? Yeah. I wasn't aching for a bathroom

break watching this movie. Are we itching to

watch the next film now? Pretty much, yeah. Yeah.

Well, actually, the second one is kind of like,

I will acknowledge the first one is a classic.

It's a great film. Yes. But I kind of love the

second one the most. Okay. Because it's the most

sort of chaotic, time -travel -y. Oh, yeah. Shenanigan.

Yeah, the second one has way more time travel

shenanigans in it. The first one is very straightforward.

You start out with a boy who has this... mentor

kind of guy who's up to these shenanigans who

steals this plutonium who blah blah blah blah

and you have to go on this adventure you go back

in time 30 years the dude goes ahead in time

it's kind of this back and forth adventure that

goes forward but the second one it's like it's

kind of like how Daffy Duck describes trying

to get to Planet X. You go do up, and then you

go do left, and then you go down diagonally 70

degrees, and then you go forward, backward, upside

down, triangular. It's every which way, the second

one. For me, it's more like the old Treehouse

of Terror episode where they did Sound of Thunder,

where it's like the first one is Homer is trying

not to step on anything. He does step on a butterfly.

And then the second one is he's finally lost

his shit and is smashing everything in sight.

You just have that shot of the Simpsons house

changing a hundred different times as he's just

smashing everything. It's just like, ah! Yeah,

it's crazy. But yes, we are definitely itching

to watch the second one, the next one now. Would

we recommend this film to people? Absolutely.

Even though this film is 40 years old, it's an

amazing movie. The only... You know what's depressing?

You realize that there's more time between us

and this movie than there is between Marty and

the 50s. Oh, shit. It was 30 years between Marty's

journey and it's 40 years between us and the

movie. So people watching it now, it'd be like

a double time travel thing. Wow, the 80s are

so weird. And then they go back to the 50s. It's

like, holy shit. Yeah. So the movie takes place

in 85. Yes. He was 17. Right. So that means he

was born in 1968. Okay. So I'm just trying to

math right here. That makes about, yeah. Cause

I was 71. Well, yeah. So if he was saying I was

14 and I was born in 71 years older than I am

supposed or was supposed to be a couple. Yeah.

Yeah. So if he was born in 68, he's 57 now. Cause

he would have been. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That's

yeah. That's it's crazy. The times it's all over

the place. But yeah, the coolest thing about,

and again, I'm glad they set this up in a, in

a way where you don't want to stop at the end

of this movie. You want to continue on the journey,

but if you wanted to, you could, you don't have

to, but you could. Cause really, I mean, I don't

know, when I watched it this time, because I've

watched it so many times and I know what happens,

if my brain was like, okay, if my brain was like

this, my brain isn't like this, thank God, but

if my brain was like this, okay, cool. Like,

if my brain was like, okay, cool, movie over,

the car doesn't come back, they're going to go

off and they're going to go on their little lake.

Jesus, that's dark. Yeah, no, I know. The car

doesn't come back. Would they go to Warhammer?

No. That car never comes back. They just fly

off into the future and they're never seen again.

No, but if Doc didn't come back, they would have

gone to the lake date and they would have gone

on with their lives. And Doc would have done

whatever Doc was going to do. Their crappy, crappy

lives. Funny. I mean, they were. Okay, so...

I mean, it's one of those questions about time

travel movies. Presumably the future that Doc

went to is the future that... It's the future

that he didn't come back for them. Because they've

gotten married. Marty is kind of a miserable...

Because they had the accident with the rich guy,

which they talked about. And he wrecked his truck.

And he just became a failed businessman. I don't

know what Jennifer... Is she an alcoholic like

Marty's mom? I don't remember off the top of

my head. All their kids are weird because they

all have their dads. The one thing this movie

doesn't really understand, the first movie understands,

but the rest of the movies don't, is that genetics.

When you mix your genes, you don't just have

one parent be the dominant genetic. Marty didn't

play George. A different actor played George,

so Marty looks different. That's Marty Jr., Martina.

I don't remember the daughter's name, but he

plays his kids. And then he plays his ancient

ancestor in the old... And I get it's supposed

to be cute. But part of me is like, this is not

how genetics work. Anyway, Marty's a loser in

the future. In the futuristic year 2015, everybody

wears two ties, cars fly, and we got ripped off.

You got cheated, man. Yeah, I'm going to talk

about that. Yeah, I'm going to talk about that

in the beginning of the next episode. Zero to

five with half points. What are you going to

give Back to the Future? Oof. I mean, I want

to give it a five because it's a classic and

it's great. I can't think of any problems that

the movie had. I mean, we've been bringing up

dumb little quibbles. But like, yeah, I got number

five. Like, look at the theater feeling great.

I think the only, and I know I'm nitpicking,

but it is kind of, I just, I can get past it

because I know it doesn't end up happening. But

the whole thing with him and his mom, because

he saved his mom and then she fell in love with

his son. That's the whole premise of the movie.

I know, but it's the only thing I have to take

a point off for, so I'm going to give it a four

out of five. That's the only reason. Like, I

just, that bedroom scene, when he wakes up and

she, oh, God, no. Because we as the audience

know, even though he doesn't. You're supposed

to be. I know. You're supposed to feel awkward

and weird and whatever. And I know it's only

the one scene and every other part of the whatever

is fine. No, they're in the car. Okay. No, no,

no, but I'm saying it's the only one. Yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah. She's like, oh, I feel like I'm kissing

my brother. Thankfully. The coolest thing about

the time travel, though, one of the coolest things

is that when he goes back, And he sees his Uncle

Joey. He's like, oh, I like being in the playpen,

kid. Get used to these bars. I love that they

did that, that they had the cake in the beginning.

And then they actually show Uncle Jailbird Joey

as a baby. It's hilarious. But seriously, folks,

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that's that. I want to remind everyone to check

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