STUDIO 2009
Coca-Cola Company’s 140-Year History and Advertising Legacy

About this Episode
Hi, this is Jim Meskimen, and you are listening
to the Geekcast Radio Network. Hey, it's Mistress
Carrie, and you are listening to Studio 2009.
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back to our studio. You're now inside Studio
2009, only on the Geekcast Radio Network. I'm,
of course, CF2 and Mike. Joining me once again
is Steve Megatron. Hello, sir. How are you? Don't
choke. Hello. Yeah, I'm messing with you. Can
you hear me? Yeah, don't do that. I said, who?
What? Oh, no, I didn't hear that. Yeah, no, I
didn't hear that. I'm getting too old. What,
Sonny? I can't hear you. Oh, crap. Getting too
old for this shit. Speaking of old, I don't know
what made me. Do the math on this. Maybe it's
because a certain movie is 40 years old this
year. But I was curious to do the math on how
old The Coca -Cola Company is... For the big.
For the small. The short. And the tall. Peacemakers.
Risk takers. For the optimists. Pessimists. Exhibitionists.
For long distance love. For the farsighted. Nearsighted.
For introverts. And extroverts. For the thinkers.
And the doers. For old friends. Coca -Cola. for
everyone. And the Coca -Cola Company is 140 years
old this year. 1886 is when the Coca -Cola Company
was put into business. They be doing the business,
man. They be doing the business, man. And we're
gonna, because here at Studio 2009 for the last
six years, we always say We will discuss things
as long as we can see, hear, whatever. We'll
talk about them, including advertising and other
things. It's not just movies and TV shows or
video games or cartoons or music or whatever.
We talked about the super soaked nineties all
the way back in episode 11, which funny enough,
surprisingly enough, that episode is only 19
minutes and change. I was surprised. I swear.
We talked about that a lot longer than 19 minutes,
but hopefully that episode isn't broken. I don't
think it is, but I don't think so. Yeah. I don't
think so either, but yeah. So I, Was like, oh,
okay. Hmm, interesting. But yeah, Coke, over
the last 140 years, can you believe it? When
was the first time you really noticed an advertisement
for Coke or Diet Coke or any of their brands?
Batman. I'm not joking, man. I literally think
it was Batman. Uh -huh, uh -huh, uh -huh. Yep.
Mm -hmm. Absolutely. That 1989 Diet Coke ad.
Hello, Gotham Corner store. We are down to our
last Diet Coke. A gentleman is on his way to
pick some up. He'll be arriving in a black car.
No, this black car is rather difficult to miss.
Just for the taste of it, Diet Coke. Now... I
kind of condensed and I got most of that correct
without having to. But, like, I know that ad
like the back of my hand for the most part because
I've been watching that commercial and I've been
placing that audio in certain podcasts over the
years for the last 17, 18 years. Hello. Gotham
Corner Store? Yes, we seem to be down to our
last Diet Coke. A gentleman is on his way to
pick some up. Just look for a black car. No,
this black car will be rather difficult to miss.
And by the way, the gentleman is usually in quite
a rush. I love that ad. That's one of my favorite
ads ever. But yeah, no, that's... Between that
and the... So the Santa Claus stuff for Coke
has really more been a print ad thing. It has,
but it's also been for regular Coke. Right. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. And I mean, I don't mind the regular
Coke advertisements. I mean, the best regular
Coke advertisement is the Polar Bears. I love
the Polar Bears. Polar Bears were cool. Yeah.
They were awesome. And the funny thing about
them is, I swear. And I just found it. It'll
be in the show notes. So the polar bears did
several versions. And then at one point they
did the polar bears and the penguins partying
together. I swear it was Pepsi versus Coke. Because
I swear the... Penguins were from Pepsi. But
it just seems like, no, the Coca -Cola people
wanted both sides. They just wanted polar bears
and penguins in one advertisement. It wasn't
like. A war type of thing. I always thought it
was, but it wasn't because the little penguin
that pops out brings the polar bear a Coke bottle.
I thought he was bringing him. I really thought
it was a war, and it's not. It's funny what you
misconstrued over the years. Well, I mean, that
happens with a lot of things, honestly. There's
a lot of stuff I don't even remember accurately.
There's quotes. I mean, I forget which the one
was that we found out recently was not correct.
It was one you sent me on Instagram. Yeah, it's
my phone in here. It's in the other room. It's
the Oregon. Oh, you have died of dysentery. Yeah,
it's not dysentery. It was you have dysentery
and you have died. So people alluded to it of,
you have died of dysentery. Yep, yep, yep, yep.
Which is funny. Yeah, exactly. Condensing the
stuff, absolutely. Funny you mention Coke, though.
I'm literally, there's a second -hand grocery
store that we have local to us. It's basically
for things that the stores or the food banks
reject. For various reasons. There could be literally
nothing wrong with it. And they'll reject it.
And it'll end up at this place. And it's free
food. It's free stuff. We've gotten gallons of
Italian dressing. Or recently, this week, they've
had Coke there for some reason. Diet Coke. I'm
drinking one right now. There's nothing wrong
with it. There's a little crease in the can,
and it's like, oh, it's not pretty enough to
be sold in store. So it's like, I'll drink it.
I don't care. They were Diet Pepsi this week,
too. A couple months ago, they had Coke Zero.
It's just funny the crap that... But I'm literally
drinking it right now, and I'm like, ah. Yep.
And the funny thing is, even though we're talking
about the Coca -Cola company tonight, you know,
the whole Coke versus Pepsi thing, outside of
the polar bears, the two ads I always remember
from either one company and the other, as we
already mentioned, the Batman 89 ad with Alfred
calling the Gotham Corner store for Diet Coke.
And then the diet Pepsi ads with Rach. Oh, you
got the right one, babe. Oh my God. Those at
Ray Charles. I remember those. Yeah, absolutely.
I don't know. We don't really get, and I've been
watching commercials lately and this is kind
of a tangent off of the Coca -Cola, but I've
been watching commercials on YouTube lately on
the shorts and they're, you know, the older commercials
were, eye -grabbing enticing and inventive or
they were original if if they weren't funny they
were original and you know it could be a brand
deal it could be something else but it it just
works like it hit differently to the point where
you know as the new kids say you know it just
hit hard uh uh sounded like an old man doing
that uh but no i i feel like they they resonated
more in your mental capacity whereas the stuff
nowadays it's ultimately forgettable or you don't
even really see it depending on if you're on
a streaming service either like we had cable
so we saw a lot of this yeah and i was looking
at like the doritos the old doritos commercials
or old skittles oh yeah those are those are beautiful
commercials like yeah they are they're stupid
but they're hilarious. Like I'll sit there and
just watch those because if nothing else, like
even if I'm not eating the item at the moment,
they're so entertaining to watch. Yep. But yeah,
I mean you could go all over the place with the
Coke ads. I mean we, we did a whole episode a
while back about Coke first Pepsi. Yep. Yeah.
And it's, it's insane. You know, the, the crap
that has, come out from these two companies over
the years as far as their advert advertising
yeah and the coca -cola company man just everything
that this company has done in 140 years and how
it started i like i've i don't think i've ever
like In the 17 years of the GCRN, we've read
a lot of Wikipedia articles on air just because
we want to get the information correct kind of
thing. But I don't think I've ever actually read
the history of the Coca -Cola Company. Confederate
Colonel John Pemberton, wounded in the American
Civil War and addicted to morphine. also had
a medical degree and began a quest to find a
substitute for the problematic drug. In 1885,
at Pemberton's Eagle Drug and Chemical House,
his drugstore in Columbus, Georgia, registered
Pemberton's French Wine Coca Nerve Tonic. Pemberton's
tonic may have been inspired by the formidable
success of Vin Mirani, I'm probably mispronouncing
that, a French Corsican coca wine, but his recipe
additionally included the African cola nut. the
beverage's source of caffeine. A Spanish drink
called Cola Coca was presented at a contest in
Philadelphia in 1885, a year before the official
birth of Coca -Cola. The rights for the Spanish
drink were bought by Coca -Cola in 1953. So the
fact that this dude was on morphine is how a
soft drink company 140 years ago got its start.
I could make a really poor comment that would
be akin to stuff I used to do. I triple dog dare
you. So the moral of the story is beyond drugs
to create something new. Don't do drugs, kids.
Seriously, don't. Yeah, don't do drugs, kids.
But there were a couple of nights those seven
or eight months before June 1st, 2009, where
we probably thought we were on drugs. We weren't,
but we probably thought we were. I mean, you
know, all that, uh, hand coding for website stuff.
I'm sure you probably thought you were losing
your mind. I like, I can't tell you the amount
of crap that, you know, I, I had to been on like
a lot of different, uh, like candies and different
caffeine drinks, like just to stay awake from
all of that. Like now I have stuff that automates.
a lot of it. I still have to audit everything.
Yeah. It automates everything for me. Yep. And
in a multitude of areas, but it's all crap I've
created because I know what I want and I know
I want it to do this certain thing. And because
the way that modern internet works and cleaning
up 17 years of bad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, just crap
we didn't know over the years. Or links to files
that don't exist anymore. Yes, unfortunately,
there are files that are no longer there. Headshot!
Headshot! I actually have that show. Yes, I know
you do. I do have it. I know. It will never be
heard of again. It'll never be heard from again.
But one of our friends, Brad, actually supplied
me with the. Oh, no, he gave me team bottom is.
And I think he gave me a headshot. I think I
deleted it. But yeah, he's like, yeah, I got
them all on a Google Drive. And I'm like, that's
reassuring. Yeah, that's nice. Thank you, Brad.
You rock, dude. But yeah, no. So in the other.
So it was marketed as Coca -Cola, the temperance
drink. which appealed to many people as the temperance
movement enjoyed wide support during a time.
The first sales were at Jacobs Pharmacy in Atlanta,
Georgia, on May 8, 1886, when it initially sold
for five cents a glass. God, five cents a glass.
I usually end up paying something like... $14
.99, $16 .99 for a 24 -pack of Diet Coke now.
Oh, it's ridiculous how much this crap costs.
I remember years ago, I sound like an old man.
Back in my day, I remember paying X amount of
dollars for this amount of Coke, and it was good.
Although it sounds bad, too, when it's like,
I paid for a lot of Coke. No, I mean... it's
like i think it's like three bucks now three
to like five bucks to get a two liter of coke
now yeah something like in walmart like i literally
watch the prices because i would much rather
get coke so i get the knockoff brand in walmart
because it's a dollar sam's choice yeah yeah
so i get that because it tastes the same and
it's a dollar and but it's still if i have the
option I like getting Coca -Cola. And it's funny
because there's a different taste depending on
what container it's in. Oh, yeah. Oh, don't even
get me started. There's can, there's glass, and
there's bottle. Yep. I'll be interested to hear
what your favorite is before I say mine. Oh,
boy. See, that's the thing. And it depends on
if it's cold or if it's like room temperature
too. Oh, yeah. No, I don't ever do it. So here's
the thing. If I am like... I don't know, a couple
days ago, I had one can left. And for me, no
one's going to be able to see this, but I'll
knock this against my head. People can hear this,
hopefully. I have a plastic tumbler. It's a whatever,
I don't know what kind. It's one of those tumbler
glasses. And it's one of those things where I
pour the cans into that because I'm usually sitting
here all day doing stuff on the computer, editing,
whatever, getting other stuff ready for records
and things like that. So I usually just pour
one can into it and it usually lasts me at least
half the day. So for me, I get the cans because
they last me longer. Like a two liter bottle
will last me a day and a half. That's how much
Diet Coke I drink. 24 -pack cans last me about
two and a half weeks. So I'm usually buying two
or three 24 -packs to make it last throughout
the month kind of thing. If I have to drink it
out of the can and I don't have a glass available,
I'm fine. I'm fine drinking it out of like a
20 -ounce bottle. But yeah, you're absolutely
right. It absolutely does taste different. I
don't ever, I haven't drank it out of, I have
not drank it out of the glass bottles in years.
It's either the can or the plastic, the two liter
bottles. But between those two, it tastes vastly
different. And it's hard for me, it's difficult
for me to go between them. Like, if I'm on the
cans, I have to stay on the cans. If I'm on the
bottles, I have to stay on the bottles for a
while. I can't switch between the two. It's just
not a thing for me to be able to do. And I don't
understand. Okay, I get it. It's because one
is plastic and one is metal. But the interesting
thing to me is that... If I had like right now
I have cans, but I guarantee you if I if I got
on the door dash after the show tonight and I
whatever time because we're going to be here
a while. But like, let's say we finished at midnight
or 1 a .m. Eastern time and I got on there and
I got on to Wawa and ordered a bunch of stuff
from Wawa and I ordered a two liter bottle of
Diet Coke. I guarantee you if I. poured a can
of Diet Coke into one of my tumblers and then
a bottle into the other, tasting it from the
tumbler from either one of them, it's going to
taste the same because it's not in either package
anymore. So that's the good thing, I think, is
that even though the taste from The can and the
bottle themselves are different. The actual taste
of the product in an actual glass or a cup or
whatever is the same. It's just the packaging
that it actually comes in is what, so it's the
metal versus the plastic is what makes the taste
different. I don't know. Yeah, I, my preference.
See, I can go between any of them. It doesn't
really bother me. Glass definitely tastes the
best because it doesn't taste like it's been
in a can or been in plastic. Right, right. If
I have a two liter, I generally pour into 16
or 20 ounce bottles to like split it up. Right.
Because otherwise, one, it'll go flat or two,
I'll drink it all in one sitting. Right. Which
neither one is a good idea. So that's what I
do with that. As far as the cans, I mean, I can
drink them pretty much whenever. It doesn't really
bother me. I've drank primarily cans over the
years with a lot of two -liter bottles split
up. Although back when I worked at the car dealership,
I used to carry around a two -liter of Coke in
my pocket. I remember. Yeah, I used to keep it
in the sleeve of my coat, which was hilarious
because I'd just walk up and be like... Chug,
chug, chug. And, you know, in the winter and
they're like, where did that come from? And I'm
like, pocket universe. Yeah. Literally pocket,
you know. Yeah. Steve and his Coca -Cola universe.
That's what that was. The only time that backfired
on me was when I carried it and I was doing IT
work and I was a white shirt at this point. And
I spilled it. And I was wearing khaki pants.
That was part of my uniform, khaki pants with
a white shirt. And the bottle, I had opened it
a little too fast and it exploded and sprayed
me. So thankfully I keep extra. I keep extra
clothes in my desk since then. Even at that point
I did. But it was hilarious. Yeah, so back to
the Coca -Cola. Yeah, they're advertising. The
first ever advertisement was inside an 1886 issue
of the Atlanta Journal calling the drink delicious,
refreshing, exhilarating, invigorating. It has
significantly affected American culture, and
it is frequently credited with inventing the
modern image of Santa Claus. As an old man in
a red and white suit, although the company did
start using the red and white Santa image in
the 1930s with its winter advertising campaigns
illustrated by. I can't read that. What does
that say? And in Sunbloom, the motif was already
common. Coca -Cola was not even the first soft
drink company to use the modern image of Santa
Claus in its advertising. White rock beverages
used Santa in advertisements for its ginger ale
in 1923. Before Santa Claus, Coca -Cola relied
on images of smartly dressed young women to sell
its beverages. As they would. As they would.
Well, you know. Commercials, television commercials
between 60 through 1986 were written and produced
by former Atlanta radio veteran Don Naylor. During
his career as a producer for McKay and Erickson
Advertising Agency, many of these early television
commercials for Coca -Cola featured movie stars,
sports heroes, and popular singers. During the
1980, Pepsi ran a series of television advertisements
showing people participating in taste test. I
remember the taste test commercials demonstrating
that according to the commercials, 50 % of the
participants who said they preferred Coke actually
chose the Pepsi. I remember those. Those were
hilarious. Coca -Cola ran ads to combat Pepsi's
ads. In an incident sometimes referred to as
the Cola Wars. Yep, yep, yep. Good old Cola Wars.
Coca -Cola has gone through a number of different
advertising slogans in its long history, including
It's the Real Thing, The Pause That Refreshes,
I'd Like to Buy the World of Coke, and... Coke
is it. In 1999, the Coca -Cola company introduced
the Coke Card, a loyalty program that offered
deals on items like clothes, entertainment, and
food when the cardholder purchased a Coca -Cola
Classic. The scheme was canceled after three
years, with Coca -Cola's spokesperson declining
to state why. Hmm, I wonder why. But yeah, no.
I just, yeah, I just, and again, like you said
earlier, what is so great about the Coca -Cola
advertisements, the TV advertisements, I forget
what some of the radio advertisements were like,
but the TV adverts, like the Bears, like the
Batman adverts and stuff like that, they were...
but they were fun because like, you know, how
are you not going to want to go out and buy a
Coke from a polar bear? Like those first few
polar bear ads was just like essentially the
Papa polar bear. And then later they brought
in like the polar bear cub and it was like, Oh,
That's awesome. And, you know, like we already
said, literally the Diet Coke ad with Batman,
like, come on. That's immediate. Go out and buy.
Go out and get yourself a Diet Coke. Just absolutely
awesome. I don't even know what the ad campaign
is nowadays. AI? I think that's what it is. I
don't even know. Yeah, pretty sure. Let me double
check. Coca -Cola has been prominently featured
in many films, political cartoonists, moral references.
Yeah, probably. That sucks. Beep. I don't. I
don't love the AI commercials because I think,
one, they're kind of lazy. They're kind of lazy.
They're very lazy. You know what I mean. As far
as the creative stuff, I do prefer the skill
set. As far as programming, I love the AI for
that. For the tedious back -end work that I don't
want to deal with. I still audit everything because
I don't trust it. And I've seen it in some of
the stuff I've programmed. But yeah, the recent
commercials for this, I remember around Christmas
time last year, they got a lot of flack for trying
to combine multitudes of their different commercials
with AI. And you have these people that are venomous
either way. It's like, you know, this way or
that way. But it just seemed like there was a
lot of glitchy stuff and it was just kind of
weird. Yeah. Like I did. Yeah. I don't know.
I miss the bears. I think the bears are their
solid point. And I think that there's a lot of
room they could do stuff with that. It's just
they don't. I think that they were trying something
new to see what it would do. And it kind of was
like, yeah, that's the problem, though, is we're.
With these ads, and again, like I said earlier,
there's nothing inventive, nothing original,
nothing fun about any of these ads anymore. How
much crap can we pump out? It's literally that.
It would be like if I sat here and I literally
scripted out the entire podcast with AI, and
then I had an AI version of me with no emotion
sitting here. reciting the whole thing people
would probably still listen just to the fact
that it still sounds legit or probably be cleaner
but at the same time like it would lack the soul
and the substance or the authenticity and so
in that regard like I think that I think if we're
going to use it I think it needs to be used for
what it's for is like you know managing the analytics
or the digital crap i think it needs to just
as far as commercials i think we need to get
back to original creative ideas stuff that's
fun yep absolutely get one of those young get
those those young whippersnappers and have them
do some campaigns and like do something different
with it do something original like you know Going
through a car wash and all of a sudden a Coke
bottle is showing up. I don't know. Everywhere
you go throughout your day, somebody's got a
Coke or there's a reminder of it or there's a
truck. There's a lot you could do that's kind
of interesting. Now I can see Pepsi doing that,
reminding you about a Coke and then at the end
they're like, I prefer Pepsi or something. I
don't know. They need to do something better.
Because it's kind of faded. Yeah, absolutely.
One of the best ones, which wasn't even a Coke
ad, which is kind of silly that I'm even bringing
this up because it wasn't a Coke ad, but the
Curly Sue Pepsi ad. So when the film Curly Sue
came out, they did a Pepsi ad where the actress
that played her. uh along with um oh what was
his name i forget what his name was but anyway
she goes into this pizza i think it was a pizza
hut or something or other i forget but she goes
oh i want this this and this and i want a pepsi
he goes yeah sure curly that's fine here you
go and she uh he hands her a coke and and Her
voice changes through whatever, and she goes,
hey, come here. I thought I said I wanted a Pepsi.
Oh, okay, okay, okay, I'll get you a Pepsi. Thank
you. It's a Pepsi ad, obviously, but, you know,
it's imaginative. And the only thing I can think
of for Coke is, like, okay, you've been using
Santa in print for years, and it's the classic
look, and it's the thing and thing and thing.
TV ad or whatever for a visual commercial. I
know we got winter coming up, so you can't do
it now. But for like summer 2027, do like Santa
on the beach, like Santa's on vacation kind of
thing. Like Santa's best thing is, oh, I want
a Coke. I want to relax with a Coke. I'm not
working yet kind of thing. I don't know. They
could do something. But 140 years of Coca -Cola.
Holy crud. What a legacy. What a brand. Crazy,
crazy. So we are going to take it to a quick
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