Back to the Future Part II Review

Hi, this is Eddie from Big Ed's Barbecue in Waukegan,

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and you are listening to Studio 2009. My calculations

are correct. When this baby hits 88 miles per

hour, you're gonna see some serious shit. Hello

folks, TFG1 Mike coming to you from the future.

It is the year 2026, and as I said in episode

185 here on Studio 2009, this episode here in

episode 188 of the podcast was recorded in 2025.

So we mention that at the time of recording...

It was 10 years since the events of Back to the

Future Part 2. So 2025, 2015, yadda yadda yadda

yadda. There is no real anniversary here because

it was, I don't know what the math is. It was

no 35th or anything kind of like that for Back

to the Future Part 2. But I just wanted to put

this little clip in here to let you all know

that this was recorded in 2025. And as always,

enjoy the show. Welcome to the Cafe 80s, where

it's always morning in America, even in the afternoon.

Our special today is mesquite -grilled sushi.

All I want is a Pepsi. Welcome back into our

studio. You are now inside Studio 2009, only

on the Geekcast Radio Network. I am TF2 and Mike

joining me once again. As always, it's Mr. David

Draper. Hello, sir. How are you? Well, how are

you? I'm as good as can be expected. I don't

know about this future stuff, but I'm as good

as can be expected. And today we find ourselves...

Well, the future isn't written yet. Yeah, yeah,

yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, boy. Today we find

ourselves 10 years after the events of the film

that we are discussing. Yeah. And these power

laces have lost their power, and we still don't

have flying cars, and that shark still looks

fake. This will be our discussion on Back to

the Future, Part 2. And yes, the future, no one's

future has been written yet. And I remember 10

years ago when that video came out and he popped

out of the DeLorean. I love that video. Great

start. If my calculations are correct, it is

now precisely October 21st, 2015. The future

has finally arrived. Yes, it is different than

we all thought, but don't worry. It just means

your future hasn't been written yet. No one's

hands. Your future is whatever you make it. So

make it a good one. When they did that video

with Doc Brown in 2015. Wasn't that a commercial?

Yeah, it was a commercial for something. I forget

what it was a commercial for. But just him popping

out of that video, popping out of that car for

that. Just absolutely love that. But Back to

the Future, part... Part 2. For some odd reason,

I want to say Part 2, but that's a different

film. That's a different film. Yeah, that's a

very different film. It had a running time of

108 minutes. It was released November 22, 1989.

Yeah, 1989. So they went from being a summer

blockbuster in 1985 to a Thanksgiving movie.

It's one of the only Thanksgiving movies that

we have, even though it has nothing to do with

Thanksgiving. but it was released around that

time. Oh yeah, but it was, it was 89, which we've

talked about that before with Indiana Jones,

where the summer of 89 was a bloodbath. Yeah,

it really was. So it probably was the smart move

to put it in a nice, safe Thanksgiving birth.

That's right. Absolutely. It had a budget of

40 million and it had a box office of $332 .9

million. Not bad. Not bad. The story about this

one is that it was supposed to be two and three,

but it was only supposed to be one movie. The

third film was like the third act of the film.

The budget was spiraling out of control. They

split it up into two movies. Yeah, which is why

at the end of the second one, you directly go

in like... That's why at the end of this you

get the quote -unquote preview of the third movie.

They filmed them, which was uncommon at the time.

I mean, now we all refer to Lord of the Rings,

but at the time it was uncommon to film two sequels

back -to -back. And they filmed them back -to

-back, so there was footage. I can use Wikipedia,

too. There was footage available from the third

film. They were like, well, let's put that as

a little teaser at the end of the second film.

Well, yeah, and I wasn't actually using Wikipedia

when I said that. I was using my own brain power.

Thank you. Yeah, but I use Wikipedia, so I was

like... So did I. No, but I mean, for this one

specifically, I was like, I looked it up, and

I was like, it's all interesting stuff. There's

one thing I want to add. There are a couple of

little addendums, because I don't know how quickly

this will air following the Back to the Future

episode. Okay, so just for your... I'm just letting

you know, Back to the Future is episode 185,

this is 188, and then Back to the Future Part

3 is 189. So between Future 1 and 2, it's two

episodes. So 86, this will air three episodes

after the first film. Anyway, being... Because

you have... You said that you've covered Back

to the Future a couple of times before. Yes,

we've covered it as a franchise. Can I finish

a sentence? Yes. Point being, in case the first

Back to the Future episode is someone's first

episode, they just come into it, I didn't end

up mentioning the Eric Stoltz thing because I

assumed you had covered it. Yes. But I think

we should at least mention Eric Stoltz was originally

– well, originally they wanted Michael, Michael

J. Fox. Couldn't get him because of family ties,

so they cast Eric Stoltz. It didn't work out.

There's one scene in the film where Eric Stoltz

is still in it, which is when he's running out

of the diner. But I just wanted to – because

someone's going to listen to that first episode

and like a – You know, you didn't mention that

Eric Stoltz was the original Marty McFly. So

I just wanted to mention that. Yeah. Someone's

going to listen to that episode 185 of Studio

2009 and realize, because I realized after the

fact, and I haven't even gone to edit that episode

yet, just after we finished that recording, I

was like, holy shnikes, we didn't mention hardly

anything. I didn't do any of my cast stuff. We

didn't go through Michael's filmography. We didn't

go through Christopher Lloyd's. We're going to

be going through some filmographies either in

this episode or the next one, folks. So trust

me, we'll get to that. But that first episode

you and I recorded, I'm like, how did I not do

that? What the hell was going on in my brain?

But go ahead. Sorry. Second correction is Strickland

was in fact the principal. at Hill Valley High,

both in the 50s and in the 80s. Okay. At my high

school, the principal just sat in his office

all day and occasionally collected trophies if

the sports teams won anything. The vice principal

was the guy wandering the halls, giving out detentions,

harassing the students. I just assumed he was

the vice principal because that was my experience,

but he was the principal. Yeah, that's what I

thought. You said he was principal. I said it

was vice. I want to correct. And again, it's

going to be like, you know, he was actually the

principal of you. If you had noticed the thing

on the door in that one scene, were you blinking?

I was like, yeah, I get it. He's the principal.

That was not my experience of principals in high

school. It's okay. Or junior high. Yeah, it's

okay. It's only a 40 -year -old movie. But yeah,

and you're absolutely right. Most people nowadays

will think of Lord of the Rings for back -to

-back -to -back -to -back filming. I think the

first thing I've always thought of is Back to

the Future 2 and 3, because that was the first

time I'd ever seen, or even as a kid, it was

the first thing I'd ever heard of, projects doing

back -to -back productions like this. So yeah,

we are, like I said, going to be getting into

the cast here a little bit, folks, and we are

going to start out with... None other than Mr.

Marty McFly himself, Michael J. Fox. Oh, boy.

Starting with his filmography, he debuted in

film in 1980 with a film called Midnight Madness.

He then did a film in 82 called Class of 1984.

The two big hits for him came in 85 with Back

to the Future and then Teen Wolf. And those were

because you skipped. I know you're doing films,

but with Michael J. Fox, I think... I will get

to the... You mentioned that between those two

films, there was a little thing called Family

Ties, which made him a huge star. Yes, I understand

that. Which is why he got Teen Wolf and Back

to the Future. Right. But I'm doing the films

first. I know, but you're telling the story wrong.

I understand that, but I am not going to go...

I'm trying to reduce the scrolling on my mouse

here. I'm trying to reduce that. You don't even

need to scroll! I didn't use Wikipedia. I used

my brain to remember the... Yes, I know he...

Yeah, I know he... But I want to... I'm highlighting,

man. I'm highlighting. I'm highlighting. He just

randomly got these film roles after these nothing

films for no reason. Oh, by the way. No, no,

no, no. No, that's not what I said. Okay, we're

going to talk about Spin City. I'm just saying

Family Ties was kind of the thing that made him

a huge star. Absolutely. And he parlayed that

into better movie roles. I never said that. What

I said was he debuted in a film that I had never

heard of, Midnight Madness. Yeah, I know. He

debuted in Midnight Madness and then some other

thing that nobody's ever heard of. And then just

all of a sudden he got... No, not all of a sudden.

I said, and then he got Back to the Future and

Teen Wolf in 85, which was because of the Family

Ties stuff, but I was going through the films

first. I'm separating film from television. Yeah,

I know you know how I do things, and you're throwing

me under the bus for it. Well, because this is

one time you deserve it, because this is telling

the story wrong. No, it's telling the story in

the chronological way of the film versus television

because his TV debut... They were intertwined.

Huh? What? They were intertwined. They were organic.

No, they're not. No, they're not at all. No,

they're not. That's why I'm doing it the way

I'm doing it. They're not it. You're an excellent

driver. That's the sad thing because his television

debut was something I've never heard of. 1978,

The Magic Lie. He played Nicky in one episode.

I have no idea what that is. No clue. So, no,

they're not. That's why I go by Wikipedia and

I go by the films first and the TV second. But

you are correct. Absolutely. Not saying you're

not, because you are right. And that's his history.

When he got Family Ties and he was on Family

Ties, that's what made them want him for Back

to the Future and Teen Wolf. Absolutely. Obviously,

the sequels to Back to the Future, he was in

The Hard Way in 91, along with Doc Hollywood.

Everyone doesn't like these movies, but I don't

mind them because I think I read the books when

I was a kid. He was Chance slash the narrator

in the first Homeward Bound film, and then he

just played Chance in the sequel in 93 and 96.

He was in Life with Mikey, which I need to go

back and rewatch that. But I remember when I

saw that, I was like, oh, God, because. I don't

know. For the love of money, he was in Greedy.

I think he was in Greedy with, was it Michael

Douglas? Kurt Douglas. Kurt Douglas, that's what

it is. Let's see. He was in The American President.

That's the Michael Douglas one. Yeah, he worked

with both of them. He was in The American President?

That's what it says here. Maybe I'm getting that

one mixed up with a different one. Let's see.

Who does he play? An American president. Michael

J. Fox as Lewis Rothschild, assistant to the

president for domestic policy. That's the one

I'm thinking of. Yep. 96. He's got the, he's

got, well, I already mentioned Homeward Bound

2, the sequel, but he's got, he also had The

Frighteners that year and then Mars Attacks.

He's got, he played Jason Stone in that. He would

then bring another book character to life in

Stuart Little in 1999, along with its sequels.

He would go on to do Drew, the man behind the

poster, where he would play himself, which that's,

is that what I think it is? Yes, it is. which

we really need to talk about that. So Drew, the

man behind the poster is the documentary about

the late great poster artist, Drew Struzan. Drew

Struzan recently died. And the only reason why

I know this is because I am following or liking

or whatever you do on Facebook fan pages now.

And his wife, Dylan, had been giving updates

on his health and everything else. And it was

just a whole sad, sad, very sad thing that Drew

was. Because this is, and most people don't know

this, but you look at any of the 70s, 80s posters,

Back to the Future, all three of them, Drew did

that for those posters. I want to do a special

episode, whether it's here in Studio 2009 or

whether it's on the Geek Kick. Geekcast Radio

flagship show, I want to do a special episode

on Drew Struzan on just covering the man's work

because that's why I love movie posters, is that

guy. And yeah, so he was in that as himself.

He was in the 2015 documentary Back in Time,

obviously. So that was directed by Jason Aaron.

It explores the production impact and legacy

of the Back to the Future film franchise. So

that's that. And then getting into TV, as I already

said, before Family Ties debuted in 1982 and

ran through 1989, he was in shows like Palmerstown

USA, Teachers Only. He had one episode of Trapper

John M .D. and stuff like that. Once Family Ties

hit, we had that for six years, six, seven years,

from 82 to 89. And he played Alex P. Keaton for

176 episodes. And I haven't gone back and watched

Family Ties in a long time. I guess I really

should. I remember watching that show as a kid,

but I don't remember watching that show as a

kid. I mean, I remember watching it. It wasn't

one of my favorites. The one episode that I remember,

I think less because of the episode itself and

more because of who was in it, was the one with

Tom Hanks. Okay. Where Tom Hanks was their uncle,

but he was drunk. Okay. So it was just a very

special episode. That's all I remember. I remember

Tom Hanks was the drunk uncle in an episode of

Family Ties. Interesting. And then what's -her

-name's not -boyfriend was in a horror movie.

That was probably Melanie's boyfriend, because

I think Melanie... The older daughter, Justine

Bateman's. She had a... I mean, he was Urkel

before Urkel was a thing. He was a nerd, and

then he got cast in Trick or Treat, I think it

was called? But not the one with... Mallory.

It was an 80s one. Yeah. Where you play the record

backwards and it's some of the... Some of the

demon, yeah. Well, it's some of the demonized

rock guy. Yeah. Yeah, Justine Bateman's character.

Mallory was her name. Mallory, yeah. Melanie,

yeah. So, yeah, so he had family ties, which

then led into Back to the Future and Teen Wolf

and all of that. He then did an episode of Muppet

Babies as himself, which was really weird. He

obviously hosted SNL. He was a prosecutor on

Tales from the Crypt. That couldn't have gone

well, I don't think. I don't remember watching

that episode. He was the narrator on... Shelley

Duvall's bedtime stories. Oh, boy. And then for

103 episodes, he played Mike Flaherty on Spin

City. So there's that. He was in two episodes

of Scrubs. And he was in one episode of Phineas

and Ferb. He played Michael slash Werewolf. He

was in The Curse of Candace. So there's that.

He had the Michael J. Fox show for 22 episodes

from 2013 to 2014. And after that, Jimmy Kimmel

Live, Nightcap, Designated Survivor. He was in

an episode, Corner Gas, Animated. He was a voice

for himself for an episode, Good Fight, in 2020.

in 2021 expedition back to the future. He played

himself in an episode. Great Josh. Uh, he voiced

Marty in, or he voiced William McFly future Marty

McFly in, uh, the video game for back to the

future of the game. Uh, in the episode, uh, uh,

yeah, I think it was the. Or Lego Dimensions.

I think they did Back to the Future as well.

Yeah, they did Lego Dimensions too. So there's

that. And obviously, unfortunately, he does suffer

from Parkinson's disease. That's why he left

Spin City. Yep, that's why he left Spin City.

And he and his wife Tracy have been fighting

that ever since. And they've been... huge activists

on that. They have a foundation, and apparently

they've been making some breakthroughs, which

is very impressive. Very cool. That is very,

very good. Diagnosed with Parkinson's in 1991.

Wow. Has it been that long? Yeah. Since become

activist and began the Michael J. Fox Foundation

to increase research and efforts to find a cure.

Several memoirs on his experiences. He was named

in Time Magazine's 2024 list of influential people

in health. That's the most recent thing. The

2023 Jane Polly on CBS Sunday Morning, Fox said,

I'm not going to lie, it's getting harder. Every

day is tougher, he said, as he's had spinal surgery

for a benign tumor, but has broken bones and

several falls. Yeah, he's a fighter. I'll give

him that. Let's see. So that's Marty. And then

Christopher Lloyd, Mr. Dr. Emmett L. Brown. His

film debut was One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.

With the Joker and the Penguin. Uh -huh, uh -huh.

Another Man, Another Chance, Three Warriors,

Going South, Butch and Sundance, The Early Days.

Legend of the Lone Ranger, Postman Always Rings

Twice, National Lampoon's Movie Madness, Mr.

Mom. That's right, he was in Mr. Mom. I remember

that now. He began his illustrious Star Trek

career as Commander Kruge in The Search for Spock.

Yep. didn't know that National Lampoon had one

of these, but in 1984, he was in National Lampoon's

Joy of Sex as Coach Hindenburg, or Hinderburg.

Hinderburg. Buckaroo Banzai, also in 1984. John

DeGute. Yep. Yeah. Back to the Future in 85.

Also in 85, which I got to see if I can fit this

in this year. I don't know if I will, but he

played Professor Plum in the library with the

candlestick. That's right. That's right. Love

Clue. Love that fucking movie. It's so good.

So the funny thing. I didn't mention this in

the first episode, in episode 185, but the funny

thing watching Doc Brown in some of his freakouts,

I can see Judge Doom. 1988, he would play Judge

Doom in Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Just a little

bit. One that I really want to get to one of

these days is 1989's The Dream Team. I love that

movie. I don't know why I love that movie, but

I love that movie. He voiced Murloc in DuckTales,

the movie Treasure of the Lost Lamp in 1990.

He was opposite Hulk Hogan as Charlie Wilcox

in Suburban Commando in 1991. He would then go

on to play Uncle Fester in The Addams Family

and Addams Family Values. He would become Al,

the boss angel in Angels in the Outfield. Let's

see here. He would then do My Favorite Martian,

Baby Geniuses. He was in Santa Buddies in 2009.

Jack and the Beanstalk in 2010. Oh, he was in

one of the Sin City sequels, or maybe it was

just the first Sin City. Sin City and Dame to

Kill for, I think that's the first movie. Yeah,

the Doc Brown Saves the World was the short film

in 2015. Ooh, he's in Nobody and Nobody 2. Interesting.

Oh, interesting. I haven't watched those movies

yet. I don't know if I want to watch those movies.

Uh, yeah, I mean, I've heard they're good. I

have a friend who says they're very good. My

thing is, I saw John Wick, I kind of like, I

got it, you know? Yeah. It's more like John Wick

with a family. Like, hey, I get it. Guy that

you don't expect to be a super badass fighter

becomes a super badass fighter and fights. Yeah,

yeah. Me, me. I prefer Wick anyway. Yeah, but

I've heard they are good. Yeah, he got his TV

debut in the Adams Chronicles in 1976. He was

on Barney Miller for two episodes and then a

couple other shows. But in 1984, he would do

two episodes. Well, OK, I shouldn't say a couple

other shows from because really the big one was

before 1984. The big one, from 78 to 83, for

84 episodes, he played Reverend Jim... Reverend

Jim. Reverend Jim Igantowski on Taxi. Oh, Taxi.

What a show that was. Love Taxi. Talk about a

show growing up on that. And he played Philip

Semenko on Cheers for two episodes. That was

the 84th show. And then, yeah, it's... after

that it's just been more of like from 95 to 96

he was in deadly games for 13 episodes i don't

even remember that show he did a television film

for angels in the end zone playing reprising

al no they didn't oh god now i need to see that

episode. In 1999, he played Owen Kingston in

the episode entitled Back to the Future 4 on

Spin City. That's never happening, folks. It's

never going to happen. It shouldn't happen anyway.

Christopher Lloyd has done a lot of great, great

stuff. He was in an episode of Numbers in 2007.

He's been in a couple of Law & Order stuff. Most

recently, he was Professor Orloff on Wednesday

for four episodes on Netflix. He was in Knuckles?

Okay. Alrighty then. That's interesting. He was

in The Mandalorian. In the terrible episode with

Lizzo and Jack Black. That's what it was! I was

trying to find it. That's what it was. Yeah.

When was that? A couple of years ago. I don't

remember. It was season three. When did season

three come out? Because they don't have that

listed here. I don't remember. Yeah, he was the

guy. He was the... Yeah, I know. I remember.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember. It was the best

thing in it. Yeah, Commissioner Hellgite. Episode,

chapter 22, Guns for Hire. Yep. It was right

above A Million Little Things because he played

himself in that episode for Father. 2023. Yep,

2023. God, this is a long time ago now. It's

two years. Yeah, look, two years to me is like

seven at this point sometimes. Leah Thompson,

other than Back to the Future, I, like, this

is just, I know nothing of her filmography, honestly.

Then Howard the Duck. I don't remember. I don't

remember Howard the Duck. I saw Howard the Duck

when it first came out. What did I? Okay, well,

I don't remember that. I honestly don't remember

that at all. What year did Howard the Duck come

out? 86? 86, because it's going to be the 40th

anniversary next year. 40th anniversary next

year, yeah. Okay. I know that's a thing with

you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine. Thank God

we're not going past Jaws, because she was in

Jaws 3D as Kellyanne Bukowski, cameo role. Oh,

yeah, she was Sean's sort of girlfriend. That

was a starting role kind of thing. Well, yeah,

technically, even though that wasn't her debut,

her debut was some video, Mystery Disc Murder

Anyone in 1982, but after that, her film debut.

was the cameo in Jaws. It was slightly more than

a cameo, but not by a lot. I've seen the film,

so I'm telling you how it was. Michael was the

main character in that film. Sean shows up, he's

like, hey, I'm your brother from Amity, and he

hooks up with a girl in a bar, and the girl in

the bar is apparently Leah Thompson. That I don't

remember, but apparently. Like, it's not a huge

role, but it's not a cameo. It's like maybe one

notch above a cameo. Like, hey, I'm a character.

I'm in this movie. I don't think she gets murdered

by a shark. Yeah. My mind is being detonated

in my brain here because, oh my god. How did

I not know this? Doc Brown and... Lorraine Baines

McFly are in the same movie in 1993 and I did

not know it. She plays Mrs. Alice Mitchell and

he plays the villain in Dennis the Menace in

93. How did I not know that? I knew him. I knew

Lloyd was in Dennis the Menace as the villain,

but I didn't know she was in it. Wow. That's

crazy. And then she would go on to play Mrs.

Roberts in Little Rascals in 94. Stealing Christmas.

What was Stealing Christmas? Is it the one with...

What's his name? No, I'm thinking of... I'm thinking

of the other one. I'm thinking of the one with

other... Anyway. Exit Speed, Rock Slide, Adventures

of the Teenage Dragon Slayer. Jay Edgar, yeah,

I have not seen, I don't think, any of the movies

that she, even the 2018 remake of Little Women.

Other than Dennis the Menace and the Back to

the Future films, I've never seen anything she's

done. Nope. And then we get Mr. Tannen. Oh, boy.

The comedian himself, Mr. Thomas F. Wilson. I

love listening to his comedy albums sometimes.

He's just so funny sometimes. The comedy special

Tom Wilson, Bigger Than You from 2009. That was

hilarious. Ninja Turf, member of Spike's gang,

was his debut in 85. I don't remember. I need

to re -watch Action Jackson. I loved Action Jackson

as a kid. I need to re -watch that movie, but

I don't remember him in it. He was in it, but

I don't remember him in it. He was in Camp Nowhere?

Really? I remember that movie. I don't remember

him in it, but I remember that movie. He was

in the 1997 version of That Darn Cat. Holy crap.

Biff's got a lot going on. He was an angry customer

in the SpongeBob movie. He did some villain stuff

in Tom and Jerry's Giant Adventure, but he hasn't

done a lot of movies over the years. It goes

from the 80s, 85 to 90, 91, 93, 94, 95, 97, 2003,

2004, 2006, and then from 2015 to 2021. So he

was in an episode of Knight Rider. How did I

miss this? I'll have to look at that again later

in the future or in the past. He was in, obviously,

all 26 episodes of the Back to the Future animated

series, Biff Tannen, Additional Voices. He was

the voice of Tony Zuko in Batman the Animated

Series in the episode Robin's Reckoning. I remember

that. That was a big thing. It was a very big

thing. He was the voice of Matt Bluestone in

Gargoyles for 14 episodes. He showed up as Carter

Landry in the episode Lethal Weapon in Lois and

Clark, The New Adventures of Superman. He was

Park Ranger Smith in Short, Plush, and Deadly

in the 1997 hit classic Duckman. He was in Pinky

and the Brain as Larry Braun. Episode Dangerous

Brains. They really made a men in white TV series.

Science fiction comedy film parody. Okay. All

right. It's a parody. Fine. Let's see. He was

in the Angry Beavers. He was in the Hughleys.

Yeah, he's got more TV credits than anything

else. Surprised me to all hell when he shows

up in. Nash Bridges in 2001 in the episode called

bear trap as a Canadian Mountie Blake. He was,

I don't know if he was a Mountie or not, but,

uh, he was a, he was a rogue Mountie, uh, hunting,

uh, hunting a criminal. But, uh, yeah, that was,

uh, that was hilarious. See what else is in an

episode of Boston public chapter 66. That was

the name of the episode he was in, which this

does not surprise me at all. He was a voice of

Tom Green, Zumo, Painted Patron, and the director

for two episodes in the 2003 Pamela Anderson

animated series Stripperella. Another Stan Lee

classic. Yes, that's right. A very, very highly

unrated, most people don't know about it, Stan

Lee classic. Stan Lee's Stripperella. He played

the athletic director Arnold Brown in the episode

Superstar in 2006 on Cold Case. I literally just

watched that episode like a week and a half ago

because I've seen all seven seasons of Cold Case

now so many times, it's now become background

noise to me. I love that show, but when I watch

a show so many times that I now know it so well,

I just put it on for background noise. He was

Councilman Herb Hancock in the episode Play Ball

for Melissa and Joey in 2011. Let's see, what

do we got for some more recent things? He was

in an episode of NCIS in 2020. 2021 to present,

he is on the Patrick Starr Show as Cecil Starr,

voice main cast. 2022 to present, he is the Sandman

on Spidey and His Amazing Friends. That's the...

The kid version, the kid friendly version of

Spider -Man on, on Disney. My buddy, my buddy,

Joe, Joe said Flippo, his daughter plays Gwen

on, on that show. So very, very cool. And obviously

for video games, he was in back to the future.

Pinball is Biff. He was in back to the future

of the game from 2010. Again, I don't know which

published. Yeah, that's the telltale game. He

played Electro in the Shattered Dimensions game

for Spider -Man. He was Cat -Man in Brave and

the Bold video game. He played crewman Kendrick

Rick Blessman in Star Trek Voyager Elite Force

in 2000. So there's that. Yeah. So the second

and third movies, folks, don't have a certain

cast member. Because this cast member just kind

of, you know, went a little crazy. No, he wanted

more money. Yeah, yep. Jeffrey Weissman replaces

Crispin Glover as George McFly. Though Glover

appears in archive footage from the first film.

89, no. Did we, did you see this one in theaters?

It was 89. Okay, you saw it in theaters. I even,

like, I. It gave out little mini posters, and

I still have mine. It's up on the wall. Oh, wow.

Do you remember that far back? Do you remember

what that theatrical experience was like? No,

I did not remember it was in November. So I probably,

depending on, like, was it, do you remember,

was it early November or late November? November

22nd, 1989. I probably saw it when I was still

up in college. Okay. We got like a really long

break. for Christmas, and I got all of January

off. But I was probably still up in New York.

So, yeah, no, I don't really remember seeing

it in a theater. I probably saw it with my buddies

for my freshman year. Very cool, very cool. When

was the last time we saw this one? For me, it's

probably been about five or six years. Oh, since,

like, Friday? Okay, but, like... No, no, no,

no. I'm not making fun of you. I'm legitimately

asking. I'm like, yeah, I saw it Friday for this.

God, I don't know. It's funny because I said

in the last episode that the second one was my

favorite of the three. Right. I think watching

it again, I kind of have to change that. Oh,

really? I think I'm changing it back to the first

one. I think the first one... It's just the better

film overall. I think when I was younger, I enjoyed

all the time travel chaos and shenanigans. I

enjoyed that stuff, but I think the first one

is a better film of the three. I think it tells

a more heartfelt story. I think it was a better

film. Not that the two or three are bad. I'm

just saying, like, it's one of those, it's like,

you know, one of the problems that a lot of 80s

films had was following up, you know, like, there

were a lot of genuine classics, and I think Active

Future was a genuine classic, and they had good

sequels, but, you know, they didn't quite hit

that note that the first one did. Maybe it's

just that I'm older and more sentimental, too.

That could be a big part of it. I don't, to answer

your question, I honestly don't remember the

last time I re -watched that film. Oh, it would

have been, ooh, it would have been... It might

have been about a decade. It would have been

between a decade and the pandemic. It was a period

where I went through my DVD collection. I would

have gotten through Back to the Future films.

So, like, seven years ago? Oh, very cool. So,

we're about the same. Yeah, like I said in episode

185, I don't go back to these very often. These

are not in my... oh my god, I must, I feel like

I must watch them. Like, it's, I love these movies.

I do. But I don't know, it just doesn't feel

like, like, I don't, I don't know, I don't, I

don't. You know, the thing is, like, the older

I get, the more movies come out, which, you know,

sounds like a stupid thing to say, but it's true.

It's like, when I was younger, I would watch

Back to the Future a lot on video, you know?

But now that I'm, you know, Now it's got to compete

with, like, Lord of the Rings came out in 2000.

Some of the Marvel films came out. You know,

Jurassic Park came out in 93. What I'm saying

is, like, there are, you know, I love those movies.

They're good movies. I have a lot of, again,

the first movie, you know, it was the rare. There

are three or four films that I was able to actually

share with my mom. Right. That I think we both

kind of liked. You know, like, that had things,

you know, like, that had science fiction elements.

that she also kind of enjoyed. Um, cause she

wasn't into that, but back to the future because

it went back to the fifties and she lived through

that. Like she, you know, she enjoyed it. Yeah.

Yeah. So, so yeah, but like, you know, I, it's

just every year there's more, well, not recently,

but, but in theory, every year there's more competition

for my attention or my wanting, like, you know,

I will probably go back and rewatch. And or season

two at some point, like, you know what I mean?

It's like, there's always something new coming

out that like, so that the, the classics kind

of like you go, yeah, I love those films, but

there's end game. You know what I mean? There's,

there's this that I want to watch now. There's,

there's, there's new films. Yeah. I love them,

but like, I don't revisit them like I used to.

Yeah. But there's also those films like, and

I'm going to speak for myself and for you, which.

I'm going to choose things that I know you like

and obviously stuff that I know that for me,

like I will never like, I've already watched

it like three or four times this year. Transformers,

the movie, I will never not throw that on. I

will always have, I will always watch that movie.

Yours, Star Wars. You will always watch that.

That's actually not entirely true. Um, I, okay.

Well, I didn't watch it for a really long time

because, you know, again, it was a film that

I watched – those films I watched constantly.

But there came a point about 10 years – well,

God. It's not 10 years ago. It's more like probably

15 years ago. But, like, there came a point where

I watched – I specifically remember I watched

an old cartoon I used to love. Okay. Gundar the

Barbarian. Right. And it was horrible. The story's

going somewhere. Trust me. Like, it was really

bad. And there was another thing I watched. There

was a show that I loved as a kid called Tales

from the Gold Monkey. Tales of the Gold Monkey.

Which was kind of an Indiana Jones knockoff thing.

It was like Indiana Jones meets Tailspin. Okay.

And you'd think it would be the most amazing

thing ever. And it was just awful. And part of

me was like, well, maybe I just liked things

as a kid because I was stupid. And so for a long

time, I kind of avoided Star Wars. Because I

was like... What if it's not good? What if I've

built my whole life around this franchise that

I loved as a kid since I was a stupid, stupid

kid? Watching them for the 12 months of Star

Wars was the first time I'd revisited those films

in a very, very long time. Like I said, nowadays

my go -to film is probably Endgame that I watch

all the time. And who knows what it'll be in

the future. What did we remember most about this?

before catching up with it recently. Honestly,

I felt like... Well, I can speak for you, absolutely.

Sharks do look fake. Yeah, but that's a... Although

apparently you forgot the part where he pisses

himself in the middle of the street out of terror.

And that that line is basically just cheap bravado

after being terrorized. Yes, yes, yes, yes. But

that... Okay, but that's just something I always

say because I know that scene is there. Like...

I never don't know about that, so that isn't

something I would ever forget. But, like, I'm

really trying to think. What did I remember most

about this before catching? Honestly, it's...

Did I really forget anything? That's the bigger

question here. Hmm. I forgot how long the...

Yeah, that's the bigger question for me is what

I really missed is how long the scene is in 1985A

when he gets into the house. I forgot how long

that scene was. It doesn't seem that long. It

really isn't that long. But this time around

when I watch this movie, I'm like. get out of

that house, Marty, get out of that. Like they

are in there way too long. In my personal opinion,

this time around when I watched it, I'm like,

Oh my God, dude. Like, wow. And I know it's not

his fault. It's, it's a mistake. Like, and Marty's

not doing anything in that scene. He's really

not. It's not like he's trying to get into bed

with the kid. With the little girl or anything

else. And he's got his hands up. He's like, whoa,

whoa, whoa. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. He's apologizing.

And the father is like, get out of my house.

All this and all that and everything else. But

I forgot how long that scene felt. Because it

feels really long. But yeah, I pretty much remember

everything about this. I don't really. feel like

i other than that i don't feel like i forgot

anything about back to the future too i will

say it's probably out of the three it's probably

last on my list i don't just and i'm not i'm

not saying that because i dislike it i'm saying

that because it's the middle of the story it

progresses the story obviously but i don't know

like it The future stuff is worn off on me at

this point because we don't have any of that

stuff. They lied to us. Obviously, I know it's

a movie. It's a story. It's a this. It's that.

It's fiction. It was never going to ever come

true anyway. But like the when you're a kid in

1989 and you think, oh, that's really going to

happen in 40 years from now. Right. Whatever.

But yeah, I mean, the future thing also wore

off because it's a decade ago. It's funny because

they got the Cubs one, but they got the year

wrong. They were off by one year. One year, yeah.

Which is kind of amazing if you think about it.

Yeah, if you think about it, it really is. I

can't believe the Cubbies won. I wish I could

have gone back and put some money on them to

win. It was funny because I didn't realize. One

thing I didn't remember about this movie was

that Charlie Fleischer appears twice. Yeah, he

does. He's the old guy. Well, he might be the

same character. I don't know. But he's the old

guy in 2015, and then he's the car mechanic in

1955. Oh, yeah. That's great. Yep, yep. I was

watching that. I was like, hey, it's Charlie

Fleischer again. Yep. And then Flea appears twice.

I don't know if I ever made this connection before.

He's the guy that challenges Marty in the third

film. Needles. Yeah, Needles. I think he's Needles

throughout the whole film. He's in two scenes,

yeah. Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think

he's Needles both. I don't think they're going

to get it. Yeah, he's the same character. Yeah,

he is absolutely the same character. My favorite

part of the part that I remember the most and

that is my favorite. is at the end when Joe Flaherty

shows up. I love... He comes out, and he's all

spooky, and he's in his trench coat, and then

suddenly he's goofy, and he's got the letter

from 1885, and he's like, you know, we had a

bet at the office. I guess I lost. I love the

whole... And then it cuts back to Doc celebrating,

and the music kicks in, and you see Marty in

the background running up. I love that whole

sequence. I love that whole sequence, because

Doc just... I just sent you back to the future.

Yeah, Doc, you did. But I'm back. I'm back from

the future. And he passes out. Movie over. But

it's not. Because we have more footage. Because

really, the story is supposed to continue. Welcome

to Hill Valley, 1885. Yeah. So, yeah, there wasn't

much that I did not remember about this movie.

Literally, as Jennifer was saying to whoever

she said it to. Oh, she says it to Doc. Doc Brown,

I brought this note back from the future. That's

the third one. Oh, that's the third one. It's

the very end of the third one. Yeah, I'm getting

ahead of myself. Sorry, getting ahead of myself.

Okay, let's see. Mattel hoverboards. I wonder

how much money they made off of that. You know,

I was reading Wikipedia. I was a little disappointed

because I'd always heard and I guess it was a

joke. I guess they deliberately kind of pranked

everybody. And I never believed that it was exactly

like the movie. You could step on it and fly

around on it. But I honestly thought they had

said that they'd made a working one. That it

could at least float. And they're like, no, we

were just messing with people. It's like, ah,

boo his boo. Yeah, boo his boo. Okay, so the

one, and I'm not going to take points off my

rating for this or anything else. It's more of

a commentary on my own proclivities of watching

stuff. When Marty Jr. picks the scene where he

goes into the living room and he's like, art

off. Channel 9, 7, 27, 35, 76, 75, and the weather.

Yeah, fine, whatever. Great boobies. Awesome.

Love them. But when he picks his TV channels

and he has them playing all at the same time,

my ADHD anxiety would go nuts having all of those

channels playing at the same time. Hell no. I

don't know how anyone could concentrate on that.

I usually, well, I mean, I don't do a dozen channels,

but I do, I mean, I'll listen to something on,

like, a tablet while I play video games. Okay,

yeah, okay, yeah, but... That's two things you're

just saying. Right, but, no, but what I'm saying

is, like, if I, okay, I can have, this is what

I do, I can't... if I have my, cause I have a

Bluetooth stereo, I have a actual boom box that

is Bluetooth connected and my phone, I'll have

Spotify connect to the, the, the stereo through

my phone. And then I'll be sitting here editing,

editing the podcasts. I'll have the music on

in the background, but that's audio like. I can

hear, like, I have the music lower, so it's just

background noise. When I'm watching Chaos, when

I'm watching my girlfriend streaming stuff on

YouTube and stuff, when I'm watching her and

her friends play the video games that they play

online, I can only have one part, like, I can

have the three different or four different people's

streams up, but they're in four different windows.

And I'll click between the windows, but I only

have one person's audio on. Because if I have

everybody's audio on, it's the same audio track,

but looped over and over and over again. And

it just said, no, it just sounds weird. But to

have tonight on News Center 5 and in a different

channel and a different thing. this is your ad

for Coke and different thing, different thing,

whatever. We're going to sell you these manscape,

blah, blah, blah. Like, no, I could not do that.

I could not do that. But yes, you are absolutely

correct. I will do something like have two things

going at once, but usually I'm not paying attention

to the second thing. It's more of a background

thing and I'm paying attention to the first thing

that I'm doing. But that, that just kind of,

kind of gut to me. I do like Michael J. Fox's

delivery when he comes in as Marty. I like his

delivery of the line, what you doing, kid? Watching

TV again? Yeah, that is good. The money comes

up in this movie, but the money shot comes up

in the third movie, so I'll bring that up later.

But the money does come up because Doc does have

cash on him. Yeah, I thought you saw that in

the first one, too. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm

not, I'm not correcting you. I'm like, yeah,

I, cause I, cause I saw that. I saw, I saw him

pull out the case and I'm like, I thought that

was in the first one too. Um, I don't remember.

I have to go back and rewatch it, but like, no

twist your arm. You know, I just saw, you know,

classic line, just something we say all the time,

something we wish. What actually happened these

days where we're going, we don't need roads.

The Cafe 80s. Oh, my God. The cafe. It is wild,

God. And I love those two little. I love and

hate those two little kids all at the same time.

You have to hold it with your hand. That's a

baby. Babies. What are you kids doing? And they've

got shit now that, like, you put a little headband

on and you make a ball levitate. Yeah, that's

true. Let's see. We're not going to talk about

Trump. I'm sorry. Biff Casino. They did base

him on that. I know. I know. They did base him

on that. I know. We're not going to talk about

that. Yeah, that's probably smart. No, we're

not talking about that. You know, one thing I...

I always kind of had an issue with how crappy

Hill Valley is under the alternate timeline,

because like, you know, like I, I just, okay.

I've never been to Vegas because that kind of

thing doesn't appeal to me. Okay. Like, and I

understand that gambling and crime kind of do

have a connection. Oh yeah. But I just, I feel

like a tourist would not want to go to Biff's

pleasure palace. because you'll get stabbed by

a biker gang on the way in. You know what I mean?

I don't see where people would actually go there,

because it's just a crime -ridden hellhole. Yeah.

And Biff is only looking out for himself. He

only cares about himself, so that's why the town's

gone to hell. I don't know. You look out for

yourself, you want to have a successful business.

Because toxic waste, whatever it is. Nuclear

power plants. Yeah. Of course Biff would be the

one to do nuclear power plants just like Mr.

Burns. I mean, they're in there. Apparently they're

coming back. Oh, boy. I did like the museum of

Biff. Yes. Two moments where they do the teaser

for the next film. Yes. Where it's like, Biff's

ancestors, Mad Dog Tannen. Yep. Yep. That was

fun. And then when Doc... like randomly out of

nowhere it goes, 1885, I've always wanted to

go there. It's like, okay. Good news. Yeah, really

good news. So after, when this was, 80, 89. After

36 years, I've always known, obviously, Marty

McFly Jr. I've never known what his damn daughter's

name was. It's Marlene. Marlene, yeah. Someone

says it in the film. Yeah, I know. And I heard

it this time. And I looked at the wicket. I'm

like, oh, that's what her name is. Those are

listed in the credits, too. I'm just saying.

I was kind of like you. I didn't quite remember

the daughter's name. And then someone said Marlene.

I'm like, oh, okay. And then it just happened

to be the credits rolling. And I noticed that.

Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, the... At the very least,

you should have had Elizabeth Shue play Marlene.

I mean, come on. You know what you should have

done? You should have had Elizabeth Shue play

Marty Jr. and then have Michael play Marlene.

A little twist. Come on, man. Those McFly genes

are tough, man. Old Seamus McFly and I can't

remember the character's name. Maggie was...

Yeah, Seamus was the husband. Maggie was Leah

Thompson. Yeah. And Seamus was the... Was Seamus

the grandfather? Yep. Yep, he was. Okay. Yes,

he was. I get it's a cute science fiction comedy.

I understand. I'm just like, you know... Okay.

And also, like... Marlene needs to shave. I'm

just like, I don't mean her legs. I mean, which

you say that now. And I'm like, all I can think

of is I go to another film in 1989. Ellen, your

mother waxes her upper lip. She has for years,

Clark Christmas vacation. Sorry, it's holiday

time. We're recording this in the middle of November,

so can't help it. Yes, we can. And it can if

you really try. So Marty burns the almanac, which

nullifies the changes to the timeline that it

caused. And that's where we get the end of the

movie like we've talked about. And yeah, I like

this one. I think it's cool. I think it's fun.

I think the power hoverboards, those were cool

designs. Pitbull. The Pitbull. I got a Pitbull

now. Exactly. You know the story about the girl

in that gang got really injured doing that stunt.

Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Oh, I didn't know. Yeah,

I can't remember exactly what happened to her,

but I remember she got badly injured going through

that glass window. Oh, the girl that's in the

gang. No, no, not the little girl. I'm like,

dude, hell. The female gang member. Okay. And

to third thing from the last podcast about this,

Billy Zane is in... He comes back in Biff's gang,

but each iteration has their own gang members.

Griff has different actors for his gang members,

and Mad Dog has different actors for his gang

members, and Biff has his gang members that are

consistent in the 50s and also in the 80s. The

same guys. And Billy Zane is still one of them.

Which is interesting, because his career would

have been picking up around then. It was a thing

I brought up in the last one I thought I would...

Okay, after 40 years of this franchise, I did

not know this part. The reason why we have Elizabeth

Shue and not Claudia Wells, who was the first

Jennifer, her mother had cancer at the time,

and that's why they recast, because she wanted

to take care of her mother, obviously. So that's

what happened there, which, you know, who can

blame her, right? Yeah. The Hoverboard Hoax,

we already talked about that. Depiction of the

Future. Release Reception. Critical Response.

I was trying to find stuff on the girl gang member,

but I didn't find anything. But yeah, Back to

the Future Part 2. Good old Back to the Future.

Oh boy. So yeah. Did the film keep our interest

throughout? Oh, of course. Yep. Are we itching

to watch the next film now? Well, we already

have, but as I was watching it, I was like, ooh,

yay. Because I had forgotten they had done the

Hill Valley at the end of the second. I had forgotten

they were going to roll into the third one immediately.

So I'm like, hey, what? Oh, right. Would we recommend

this film to people? I mean, as part of the trilogy,

yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Zero to five with half

points. What are you going to give Back to the

Future Part 2? I'm between a three and a 3 .5.

Okay. Out of what? Five? Out of five, yeah. Out

of five, a 3 .5 or four. Sorry. Okay. For some

reason, my brain malfunctioned and I was going

to add a four. It's okay. Yeah, you got that

Siskel and Ebert montage on you. I'm sorry. Yeah,

I'm going to give it a 4 out of 5. I really enjoyed

it for the most part. Other than that one scene

just for me personally taking a little bit too

long in the alternate 1985. Nothing wrong with

the scene. It's just the timing of it. It just

felt a little long to me this time when I watched

it. I'm like, hurry up. You've got things to

do. Get your ass back to the real 1985 already.

which means you got to go back to the past in

this timeline. Cause if you go into the future

in the 1985, a timeline, it'll be the 1985, a

future, not the 1985 zero future. Oh boy. Time

travel hurts my head. So yeah, four is all around

for back to the future. Part two, we're going

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close the show right after this. Hey, McFly.

Yeah, I've seen you around. You're Marty McFly's

kid, aren't you? Beth? You're Marty Jr. Tough

break, kid. Must be rough being named after a

complete butthead. What's that supposed to mean?

Hello? Hello, anybody home? Huh? Think, McFly,

think. You're old man? Mr. Loser? What? That's

right. Loser with a capital L. Look, I happen

to know George McFly is not... No, I'm not talking

about George McFly. I'm talking about his kid.

Your old man, Marty McFly Sr., the man who took

his life and flushed it completely down the toilet.

I did? I mean, I mean, he did? I told you, two

coats of wax on my car, not just one. Hey, hey,

I just put the second coat on last week. Yeah?

With your eyes closed? Are you two related? Hello?

Hello? Anybody home? What do you think? Grif

just called me Grandpa for his health? He's Grif?

Gramps! What are you for? Hey, kid. Say hello

to your grandma for me. Hey, Gramps. Don't go

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the trilogy with the 35th anniversary of Back

to the Future Part 3. For now, I am TFG1 Mike

with... I'm Japer. You'll hear us back in the

studio soon. It's all right, Copernicus. Everything's

going to be fine. I'm sorry, Doc. It's all my

fault you're stuck back there. I never should

have let Biff get to me. There are plenty worse

places to be than the Old West. I should have

ended up in the dark ages. probably would have

burned me at a stake as a heretic or something.

Let's look at the map. All right, according to

this, the time vehicle's sealed off in a sight.

We may have to blast.