STUDIO 2009
MEDIA MAYHEM – The TV Show Choices of TFG1Mike!

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You're now listening to Studio 2009, only on
the Geekcast Radio Network. This is episode 179,
folks. We only got something like 21 or so episodes
to episode 200. I'm, of course, TF2 and Mike,
and for our first time ever... We bring you even
more media mayhem because it will be like sands
of the hourglass These are the decades of our
lives today. I welcome that good old detective
of film and television. It's David Draper. Hello,
sir. How are you? Well, I was adjusting my volume
when you told me that we weren't supposed to
No, you can adjust your volume all you want.
It's fine fine This is all his fault, folks,
because he gave me this idea once I saw his movie.
I posted one thing on Facebook, and now you turned
it into a whole thing. Exactly. That's the way
I get ideas. I steal them from other people.
Yeah, I do, too. I'm not saying that. I'm just
saying, like, you're the one that wanted to run
with it. Well, hey, look. Look, man. Like, it's
just the way I roll. It's just, look. In this
landscape of artificial intelligence, what little
brain cells I actually have, I need to be able
to use them and be able to create something.
And for me, as much as I love the movie stuff,
and we will be doing more movie listings, I will
be having more people on the show in the future
to do more of the movie mayhem type stuff. The
TV side really is what peaked. I'm like, hmm.
Because again, as I was reading down your list
and folks, you're going to hear this in the far
flung future. We're recording this in August
of 2025, but you're probably going to hear this
close to. Middle of September, most likely, just
to be honest with you, because we prerecord,
prerecord everything around here. That's just
the way I roll. But. So when I was reading down
your list and I was like. Oh, that's interesting
how he came up with that choice. I see he's wrestling
with himself about 1984 because 1984 was a bloodbath
in film. Huh. How would I approach that TV -wise?
Hmm. Interesting. And, folks, I want to say again,
just like we said with the movie version of this,
anything you can watch on the screen. Live action,
animation, doesn't matter. We're not discounting
anything. We're not separating it out. Normally,
we would. Normally, for me, when I think of television,
I think live action. I don't normally think it.
Normally, I'm the one separating out the cartoons.
I was thinking about, because that came up. I
asked you about that. What about South Park?
What about Simpsons, which are like King of the
Hill, primetime shows? be watched as quote normal
tv shows and you know yep and i and i said anything
you can watch on the boob tube is is canon so
whatever works i only have one thing that i'm
a little sketchy about okay i will make the argument
when the time comes It's just the way the new
media works. I think the rules are slightly different.
The way streaming works is more like the British
model. They don't do seasons. They do what they
call series. Series? Every series can be its
own thing in a weird way. Whereas an American
TV show, it's one long story. Like with Blackadder.
Each Blackadder is its own thing. Right. Whereas
the Blacklist is six seasons of one show. Yeah.
Instead of six seasons of six separate stories.
Yeah. It's crazy. It's just crazy. And as a reminder,
if you didn't listen to the movie episodes, first
of all, go back and listen to the movie episodes.
Episode 166? No. Episode 167, 68, and I believe
69. I believe I had my first guest on for the
movies from episode 169. So we did that. But
the rules are as follows. These lists are inherently
subjective. They are not the best TV shows of
each year, but are favorites. And therefore,
no choice can be wrong, quote unquote. Eye -rolling
is, however, allowed. Why eye -rolling? Yes,
quiet eye rolling. Which I violated several times
during your list. I apologize. Hey, it's okay.
Hey, there's a line I use. I forget where I got
it from. I got it probably from some movie. My
eyes rolled so loud or so hard it was audible
across the room. So, you know, trust me, I understand
the eye rolling. More a personal thing, but in
many cases we define quote -unquote favorite
as TV show we'd most like to watch. Rule number
three, you have to have seen the TV show, but
do not have to have actually seen it the year
it was released. And you can only pick one TV
show each year, 1984, and you must pick one TV
show for every year, 2006, as examples. So those
are the four rules. There are no other rules
other than that. Starting with 1980, the year
I was born, I don't know. Like, I was born that
year. I wasn't watching TV. Again. I know, I
know. This has come up multiple times. Like,
the whole thing about Tron was, I saw it in 2010.
Yeah, exactly. I know. But that's the point,
though. But it's one of those things where...
So I have three choices here. And I only picked
what I picked because partly because people always
give me a give me a hard time for this character.
And I feel like I always have to defend this
character. But the other choices I also did watch
as well. So the two choices that I did not pick
Richie Rich. I don't know what it is about that
cartoon. I grew up like that cartoon along with
Jabberjaw. And I think it was. not heathcliff
it was there was one other one might have been
captain caveman and the teen angels i don't know
three of those were in like some cartoon block
somewhere in the 80s uh in syndication and i
watch those all the time and i always just remember
richie rich and gloria and and cadbury the butler
and the dog and the whatever the other choice
that huh I believe he was a dollar -mation. Yes,
he was. That's right. That's right. Dollar. I
remember dollar. Yep, yep, yep. The other one
I did not choose because I remember watching
it barely, but I remember it more so for who
was in it, even though I don't have the Wikipedia
article pulled up, but Bosom Buddies came out
in 1980. Yeah, I watched that. Hugh Scolari and
Tom Hanks. Yep, yep. But what I chose was Scooby
and Scrappy -Doo. Because as a kid, and even
as an adult... As a kid, so when I was born in
1980, I was born, and I've said this before on
this podcast and other shows and whatever, so
this isn't a secret. This isn't me revealing
too much of my own life. I've been doing this
for 17 years, folks. If you don't know by now,
you have never listened to any of the podcasts
I've done. I was born with a mild case of cerebral
palsy. In the last eight and a half years or
so, I found out I was also born without a piece
of my brain. I do not have the corpus column,
which divides the left and right brain hemispheres.
So instead of having the Atlantic Ocean and the
Pacific Ocean, I have the entirety of Lake Michigan
in my head. It's one giant thing. So, yeah. And
because of this river palsy and because it was
the 80s and because... Thankfully, I didn't grow
up in the internet age. I can only imagine any
child these days growing up and having a disability
of any kind. Oh, that's Chris Chan. Like, it's
sad. But, like, I got made fun of a lot. And
I got put down a lot. And that's why I usually
end up putting myself down a lot and why I have
a negative self -worth most of the time. Like
most of the time you'll hear me put myself down
before I put anybody else down. I will put myself
down before I insult anybody. Unless I'm trying
to be funny about it, you know, kind of like,
yeah, I get it. Like if you sit here and tell
me something personal about yourself and then
something happens three months from now, it's
like, oh, I'm, you know, me, I'm the worst ever,
blah, blah, blah. I'll say something. about me
first before i use whatever you told me about
you again you know what i mean like i'm not gonna
do that that's so as a kid seeing scrap that
that's that was the whole point of scrappy the
whole point of shaggy and scooby is they're fraidy
dogs they're fraidy cats they run away from the
danger they were the cowards that was the whole
point of them the whole point of scrappy when
he was introduced was puppy power whole point
of him was to show people children in the 80s
not just to run into the danger but to face your
fear to face the thing that scooby would never
face that was the whole point of the little nephew
that could the little nephew that was so positive
and whatever even though scooby would end up
just scooping him up and running away anyway
half the time he's like oh come on uncle scoob
let me at him let me at him i just love scooby
and scrappy so that's my choice for 1980 Well,
Nurse Janice, who's the next patient? We'll see
for yourself, Dr. Bob. Oh, it's Kermit! My Kermit!
All right, take it easy. I'm okay. Quiet. This
is a very dramatic moment. Kermit, I shall nurse
you back to health if it takes a lifetime. What
do you think's wrong with him, Dr. Bob? Well,
for one thing, he's been badly exposed to overacting.
1981, there is only one choice. The Muppet Show.
I believe it was the last... What? The Muppet
Show started. I thought they would deal with
the TV shows when you had to pick the year it
started. Whatever. Because I also picked the
Muppet Show and I'm pretty sure it was not 1981.
No, I think it was the year it ended. So that
was, we didn't really get to talk about this.
I should have talked to you about this beforehand.
As I was making this list. 1976 is when it started.
76 to 81, right? Yeah. Okay. So the way I looked
through this and made my list, yes, you are absolutely
correct. I did do my best to get the year that
the show started. However, because most of the
stuff I saw as a kid, by the time I saw the stuff,
it was already in syndication. So I didn't know
that it debuted in 76. You're missing the whole
point of the exercise by doing that. I understand
that. Because you're supposed to be picking it
from... The whole thing isn't supposed to represent
the year that it came out. Which is why I had
issues about doing TV shows. But it's supposed
to be... It's a product of its time. Right, and
the product of its time as it ended was changing.
You'll see. This is why I did this. Because The
Muppet Show ended in 81 is a product of its time
compared to the rest of the list as the 80s progresses.
Because my TV watching habits changed throughout
the 80s and into the 90s. It's a very interesting
change. The Muppet Show. Because there was nothing
else listed in 81 that started in 81 that I was
like, oh, my God, this reflects my life. Or,
oh, my God, this is my favorite. Literally, I,
what? Go ahead. Say it. It's not supposed to
reflect your life. It's supposed to be a show
that you saw at some point and liked. Exactly.
And liked better than all the other shows you
saw that came from 1981. I know. There were none
on the list. I looked at the list. I have the...
Here, look. I will pull up the Wikipedia article
right now. Look, it's your list. You do what
you want. Where is that? Where did I put that?
Hold on. Let me pull it up. All of mine actually
premiere the year that I picked them. Uh -huh.
Where did I put that? I like structure. I like
structure, too, but, you know, things have to
end sometimes. Yeah, but that's a different,
like, that would be a weird and interesting list
and probably more of a huge pain in the ass to
try to put together. But doing, like, the year
it ended as a list would be interesting. Because
I do think it says something, like, because 1981
was a different time than 1976. Right. Way different.
Like, you had the entire freaking Carter administration,
which, like, America changed. Yeah. Okay, so...
But I think the Muppet Show was a very kind of
hippy -dippy... The Muppet, like... I don't want
to go too far into it, because at some point
you're planning on doing a thing about the Muppets.
Yes, we will. I feel like that would be time
to talk about this. But the Muppets are a fascinating
time capsule of a time and place and attitude.
Because, like, Jim Henson never meant for them
to be a kid thing. Even though the Muppets really
started on Sesame Street. And I think that's
why they endure. Yes. Because you can love them
as a... There are things on my list that it's
like, I liked that as a kid. And there's nothing
else that I saw from that year that I liked.
But if I went back and watched it now... In fact,
I know there's one on my list. Ironically, 1980's
choice. Where I tried to go back and watch it
as an adult. But it was literally like, well,
I loved this as a kid and there's nothing else
I like better. Like, the Muppet Show had a very...
I mean, the first episode of the Muppet Show
was sex and violence. Yes, yes, it was. Yeah,
so... Okay. No, no, no. No, no, no. I mean, you're
going to do a whole thing. I might be there for
it. I don't know. But this is a conversation
for the episode on Muppets. I know it is, but
I just want to tell you why I picked... So, again,
I... look this is 44 45 years of my this is my
entire life of television that i've watched and
i yeah i know i did the same thing remember i
right i know this is why we put the work into
this i looked through every wiki all 45 years
of wikipedia articles and i just want to run
through this really quickly debuting in 81 Dynasty,
Hill Street Blues, Harbor Valley PTA, Nero Wolf,
Walking Tall, The Gangster Chronicles, Brady
Brides. No one gives a crap about the Brady Brides.
Checking in, SCTV Network 90, Comedy Theater.
Funny. Best of the West. More, more, more. Yeah,
that's a Canadian thing. I'm not Canadian. I
know. Laverne and Shirley in the Army. I had
it over my mouth in the horror. Uh -huh. battle
stars love sydney give me a break now give me
a break i might have chosen if i had seen more
of it because i do remember watching that show
but i don't remember i watched that a lot back
in the day yeah exactly shannon strike force
this week mclean's law simon and simon which
i do remember barely i don't know what to do
yeah dark room open all night brett maverick
yes i know it's maverick but again i didn't really
watch that that much falcon crest and you can't
do that on television those are the debuts in
1981 um there was one that you didn't mention
which was i'm not gonna tell you because it's
my list it's on my list okay good so i know okay
good that's fine i'm okay okay good So those
were my choices to pick from of debuts. STTV,
John Candy, Eugene Levy. Oh, my God. I did not.
I didn't even realize. I didn't even notice that
one. Yeah, May 16th of 1981. i'm gonna have to
seriously think about changing mine like you
well and again this is why so this is why on
my list this is why i offer choices that i didn't
choose before i telling people what i actually
chose so we can have a conversation like we've
been having here so the muppet show for me i'm
like you said we're not gonna i'm not gonna talk
too much about this but that was my choice because
i remember that that alongside muppet babies
I remember seeing those things in syndication
from the time I was five years old in 85 all
the way until I was 10 in 1990. I remember seeing
it. I think there's a lot of things that I saw
in reruns. All of them. Yeah, absolutely. That
premiered before I was born and I didn't pick
them. Yeah, absolutely. Because the whole point
is to pick the year. Uh -huh, uh -huh, uh -huh.
But again. Whatever, whatever. You do what you
want. As I just said, there was nothing in the...
Like, if Knight Rider had debuted in 81, if the
A -Team had debuted in 81, if anything else that
I actually enjoyed, that I actually wanted to
be a favorite from that year, Muppet Show is
my favorite for that year. The year that it ended,
unfortunately. Knight City 2! One man can make
a difference, Mike. There are no other choices.
I didn't even have to look. I don't even think
I looked at the 1982 article on Wikipedia. I
didn't even have to look. I just wrote it down.
Once I put my choice in red, it's selected. I've
got a picture with the man. I've got a picture
of myself sitting in the damn car at the 1986
Boston Budweiser Expo. It's Knight Rider. My
life revolves around two, multiple franchises,
but basically two major franchises in my life,
Knight Rider and Transformers. Knight Rider is
the number one live action television series
of my childhood. It always has been. It always
will be. I live, breathe, sleep this show. I
need to get the 4K, the new 4K DVD Complete Series
release that they just released. I haven't been
able to get it just yet. It just came out a couple
months ago by the time this releases, but I need
to get that. Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news.
In the middle of this episode, this is editor
TFG1 Mike, and we are talking about Knight Rider,
my 1982 choice in the TV choices of my life and
everything else. Well, I have gotten the 4K release
of the Knight Rider set. I have not cracked it
open yet, but I have. now gotten that set since
recording this episode of the podcast. So, hopefully
a future discussion will happen about that, maybe
over on Beyond the Night, our Knight Rider podcast.
Now, back to Studio 2009 and myself, along with
David Draper, talking about the TV choices of
me, TFG, and Mike. Keep your scanners peeled.
But this show, like... It just hit at a certain
time. And in the 80s, everything was action television
between this, the A -Team, Airwolf. Those three
shows just absolutely love them. And David Hasselhoff
as Michael Knight. Everybody's like, oh, but
he's Mitch Buchanan from Bay. He was Michael
Knight before he was shirtless on Baywatch. I
will absolutely 100 % back you on that one. I
don't mind Mitch Buchanan and all that on Baywatch
and everything else, but that was the 90s. This
is the 80s. That jacket, I've wanted that jacket
my whole life. Jacket was cool. Oh, God. I wish
I had the hair. Yeah, we all wish we had the
hair. I think it was 83, because by the time
I was in kindergarten in 85... Oh, God, I'll
never forget this guy. I think it was 83, Kenner
released The Voice Car. Yeah, I've got it. When
you press the license plate. Yeah. And it says
various clips. Jason actually fixed it for me,
so it works now. Yay! Well, in 1985, when I was
in kindergarten, one of the other kindergartners
that used to be a friend at the time, Brian Reed,
and I think it was Brian spelled with a Y, and
anyone who spells their Y as a villain, he would
not even let me look at it. I understand not
letting people touch your toys, but literally
wouldn't even let me look at it. Like, dude,
come on. Whatever. Anyway. But no, I've watched
this show over and over again. I wrote up a whole
blog series called Beyond the Night back in early
2010, which then created a whole podcast where
we reviewed every single episode of the show,
including the 1991 reunion film, including the
2008 reboot, technically continuation series.
Night Rider is everything to me, so that's the
82 choice. 83, there are a couple of runner -ups.
I remember really loving Fraggle Rock as a kid.
If I may jump in, Fraggle Rock was one that came
to actually a lot, because I didn't have HBO.
I had HBO for like a year, and then we didn't
have HBO until much later. I got into Fraggle
Rock a little bit later, and I really got into
it for a little bit, because I mean, it's...
It's a good show. Yeah, it's a good show. Yeah,
it's a good show. I don't know. I always liked
Fraggle Rock because it was more of... It was
like... Okay, when I say it was like this, it
wasn't technically literally like this, but it
was kind of like Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood without
the... No. No, okay. As a child who grew up with
Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood, no. Okay, but what
I mean is... technically yes no you're right
i it's not what i mean is it's a guy who goes
into a place who doesn't know that there are
these things in this you know but rogers does
know i know but right i know so it's completely
different it's like the it's like the polar opposite
mr rogers like rogers knows that this magical
world exists that he goes into whereas uh doc
right right doc doesn't know yeah Doc doesn't
know. Right. But my point is, where I see them
is... There's shows for children? I actually
wanted to go to Fraggle Rock. I never wanted
to go to the land of make -believe, because I'm
sorry, Lady Elaine is just... You don't have
to date Lady... First of all, I think she's already
married. Worst creepy... No, no, no. I'm not
talking about that. I'm not talking about...
Look, you can put every... You can put every
horrific fake shark in front of me and fine,
I don't care, whatever. You can put Frankenstein,
the mummy, Dracula, fine, okay, I'll be a little
bit scared. You put Lady Lane in front of me,
I'm running down the damn street. That lady is
scary as hell. Anyway, Fraggle Rock. Absolutely
loved it. I loved the adventures. I loved Gobo.
He was always my favorite. Uber was my favorite.
I guess. I have to do laundry. Oh, boy. That's
not even your choice. No, I know. That's one
of the runner -ups. I know. It's one of the runner
-ups. And I'm sure people would think that this
would be my choice. And, again, normally it would
be if the actual choice didn't come out this
year. But the other runner -up is... It's the
He -Mans, folks. And I use that because Dave's
here. The He -Mans! Be a motley group of gnomes!
Ah, what Skeletor! It was He -Man who was...
He -Man! Always He -Man! The He -Man and the
Masters of the Universe came out in 83. Again,
we've done a whole podcast series, Powers of
Grayskull series here on the network for that.
We did that for years and years and years. We
probably should get back to it at some point
and cover the new Netflix stuff that they've
done, but we're not doing that anytime soon.
But yeah, He -Man and the Masters of the Universe
ran from 83 to 85, had a whole movie with his
sister, kind of like Star Wars, kind of sort
of replicated it, all that stuff. But the choice
is... In 1972... I don't... I can't even... I
can't even finish the whole thing. It's the A
-Team, folks. I fucking love the A -Team. oh
man these guys these four guys just like everybody
loves macgyver everybody loves the fall guy everybody
loves macgyver for everything he can do and all
the magic he can do as one guy and everything
else and all that the a team they are four guys
who basically pull off the impossible and still
get away with it oh man At its best, the A -Team
was a... They had an element that was a slightly
less cerebral MacGyver. Because MacGyver always
used science to do this shit. But they built...
The best episodes... It's been a while. The best
episodes were they would build some ridiculous
contraption at the end of the episode. Which
were the best episodes. The cabbage slinger.
My favorite. Every episode, only one person got
shot at the very beginning. And then two million
rounds of ammo would be fired. No one would get
hit. But instead of picking on you guys individually,
I came up with something very special. Something
you all get a real kick out of. Oh, gee, I can
hardly wait. Since I'm tired of you guys knocking
me out, drugging me, and tying me down, making
me to fly, and you all know I hate to fly, I've
decided to go back home to America by boat, and
you all get a chance to go on the boat with me.
Well... That's what you want, B .A.? And since
it's against the law for the lynching freighters
to accept passengers, we're going to have to
work off the passage. Work it off? Yes. I'm in
charge of the workforce, and you guys are in
charge of the workload, which includes swabbing
the deck, working in the boiler room, and painting
the entire ship. B .A., this is negotiable. You
did all your negotiating on the plane. Now it's
time for you to start working on the boat. And
if anyone don't like that... You can step into
my office right here, right now. Yeah, absolutely.
But the A -team absolutely loved it. George Pippard
as Hannibal. Hannibal. B .A. Baracus. Yeah, no,
no, no. And Templeton Peck as Face. As Face,
yep. Yep, yep, yep. Absolutely loved them. Mr.
T as B .A. Baracus. Just like, I pity the fool.
And B .A. and Murdoch, oh man, they always had
such great scenes together. Those two characters,
best characters in action TV if you wanted a
comedy part. Because they just, oh man, it was
so cool. 1984 is a bloodbath in television. And
I chose the show that made me hallucinate and
think I saw the helicopter all the time as a
kid. But we're not talking about the choice yet.
So the shows that I saw and loved the most all
the time, Danger Mouse. Danger Mouse was a British
thing. Danger Mouse was good, yeah. Yeah, loved
Danger Mouse. Night Court. Yep. Night Court.
I love Penfold. Night Court. Night Court's a
good one. Yep, yep. Voltron, Defender of the
Universe. I always liked Snorks. I like the Smurfs.
The Smurfs are fine, but I liked Snorks more
than Smurfs because it's Michael Bell is all
-star as the head Snork, and it's basically Smurfs
underwater kind of thing. I always thought that
was a little bit more interesting as a kid. More
high concept. Yeah. As I mentioned, the Muppet
Babies, you got Who's the Boss? You got Charles
in Charge. And you know what, folks? If you don't
want to hear about this, you can fast forward
the show for about 10 minutes. But 1984 gave
us... I got to talk about this. The Cosby Show.
Mom? Yes? I'm not going to law school. What?
I decided not to go to law school. What do you
mean you decided not to go to law school? Well,
this is our dream. and so I'm going to get a
temporary job until the wilderness store opens,
and then I'll be working side by side with my
husband. Sandra, what are you saying? You have
always wanted to go to law school. You've never
talked about anything else. I changed my mind.
Change it back. After all the money we spent
sending you to Princeton, Sandra, you owe us
$79 ,648 .22, and I want my money now. to both
of us we have to be calm you calm down if elvin
thinks that he is going to come in here and drag
my baby off into some harebrained business scheme
and ruin what is potentially the greatest legal
mind of this century he's gonna have me to deal
with and then he can come to you for treatment
i was raised where television was fiction i was
raised to watch tv and look at the characters
that were on the screen i was not raised To follow
the actors after they left the screen. We didn't
have tabloids in when I was growing. Oh, we absolutely
had tabloids back. Okay. Okay. We didn't read
them because we were kids. Right. We didn't read
them. National Enquirer has been around forever.
Okay. Yes. National Enquirer has been around
forever. But my point is between the 80s and
the 90s, like. I think the point you're trying
to make is nobody knew. This was a very well
-kept secret that nobody heard about until it
blew up in the 2000s. Cosby was a beloved figure.
That's why that was such a big deal, is he was
a beloved paternal figure. And the thing of it
now is, and I think the reason why, it has nothing
to do with him anymore. It has to do with everybody
else that was on that show. And it has to do
with the fact that, again, as of this recording,
August 1st, 2025, we just lost Malcolm Jamal
Warner. And every other reel on my Facebook and
Instagram timeline is clips of his character,
Theo, on The Cosby Show. Because, obviously,
we just lost Malcolm Jamal Warner. And the show
itself, the writing, the characters, that's what
I grew up with. That's what I grew up loving.
And at some point, and I said this to you in
some long diatribe in our text chat, I said,
at some point, I'm going to find a way to figure
out how to cover The Cosby Show on this podcast.
Because I like... the cosby the more and more
the more clips i see it like literally this morning
i just watched the gordon gartrell clip of the
shirt no son of mine is gonna have a 95 shirt
blah blah blah blah blah blah and then denise
goes and tries to sew him up the shirt and the
sleeves are the wrong size and it looks like
crap and he's trying to impress this girl and
And I'd forgotten what happens in that, in that
episode. Basically it's like at the end of it,
he's like, Oh son, I never, I didn't take the
shirt back yet. It's upstairs on my bed. Go get
the real shirt. Except Theo doesn't walk up the
back steps in the kitchen. He walks out into
the living room where the girl and everybody
else is. And they ended up seeing him in the
shirt that Denise tried to sew up for him. I
love the Cosby show. I love that work of fiction.
always have however my choice is airwolf this
briefing is from file a56 -7w classified top
secret subject is airwolf a mach 1 plus attack
helicopter with the most advanced weapon system
in the air today it has been hidden somewhere
in the western united states by its test pilot
string fellow hawk hawk has promised to return
airwolf only if we can find his brother sinjin
an mia in vietnam We suspect that Archangel,
deputy director of the agency that built Airwolf,
is secretly helping Hawk in return for Hawk's
flying Airwolf on missions of national concern.
Stringfellow Hawk is 34, a brilliant combat pilot
and a recluse since his brother's disappearance.
His only friend is Dominic Santini, whose air
service is the cover for their government work.
With Hawk and Santini flying as a team at speeds
rivaling the fastest jets, backed by unmatched
firepower, Airwolf is too dangerous to be left
in unenlightened hands. Finding it is your first
priority. Because as I said earlier, as a kid,
by the time I was 9, 10, 11 years old, 89 to
91, there were times where I was hanging out
at my cousin's house and they had this giant
swing set. And if you're standing in front of
the swing set and you're looking back behind
their house, it was like this giant group of
trees. I used to hallucinate seeing the helicopter
come across those trees. I don't know what the
hell I was going on. I don't know what it was.
The hell was going on with me up in Massachusetts
back then. But Airwolf, it's the late, great
Ernest Bornein and the late, great Jan Michael
Vincent as Dominic Santini with Bornein and Stringfellow
Hawk, Jan Michael Vincent. They work for the
firm. This is a secret government program type
thing, and they run missions in Airwolf. And
I always forget how Airwolf begins. So every
time I see the pilot, I'm like, oh, yeah, right.
This foreign whatever guy built this helicopter,
and he wants it, and this, that, and the other
thing. And they go in and steal it and keep it
away from him. everything else, and I just love
that show for... I think it's the only show,
I'm pretty sure I'm safe in saying this, it is
the only television show that I know that actively
uses a helicopter as the main vehicular character.
Blue Thunder. Blue Thunder? When did Blue Thunder
come out? About the same time. Like, there was
the movie first, and I think there was a really
short -lived TV show for it. Okay. Okay. But,
like, you don't see helicopter TV shows today.
Like, in the last 20 years, 30 years, like, since
the 90s. Like, after this show, they weren't
doing this kind of thing is kind of my point.
I mean, they had a helicopter in Riptide, and
they had a helicopter. It wasn't a huge focus.
I'm not going to say it was the focus. There
was a helicopter in Magnum PI. Yeah. Yeah, there's
helicopters in shows. And in Riptide, the helicopter
was really important. It was a big pink Vietnam
-era... Flamingo. It was a big pink Vietnam -era
transport copter with a dark face painted on
it. Very cool, very cool. So yeah, 1984, Airwolf
is the choice. 85. 85 was another bloodbath.
You had... I thought this show was older, but
you had the Golden Girls debuting in 85. I thought
that it debuted at least two or three years before
that, but the Golden Girls debuted after that.
I was surprised it debuted as early as it did.
Yeah, Golden Girls was 85, 227. So you had 227
and the Golden Girls in the same year. So they
are both celebrating their 40th anniversaries
this year. I loved both of those shows. I remember
watching both of them with my grandmother, 227.
I mean... Jack A. Oh, Jack A. Gotta love Jack
A. Harry. For animation, we had The Wuzzles.
Not a lot of people are going to remember The
Wuzzles. I'm sure you remember them. That's because
my best friend collects stupid... that's right
good old jason uh mask thundercats jim and the
holograms and the 13 ghosts of scooby -doo the
13 ghosts of scooby -doo are the other choices
and the choice goes to the very underrated and
very even though it has a large fan base i don't
hear a lot of fans talking about it jim and the
holograms hi this is christy marks the writer
of jim and the holograms and beast wars and you're
listening to geek cast radio network people will
say and scream their heads off but mike it's
a girl's cartoon no it wasn't It was a cartoon
for everybody. It was a cartoon with women in
it for the leads. That was an action cartoon.
This isn't Barbie just sitting at her makeup
table. This is a cartoon about a woman, Jerrica
Benton, who lost her father, who is trying to
figure it all out, who... is faced up against
eric raymond who is this sleazy music producer
guy who's trying to tell her the wrong thing
and she finds this super computer synthesizer
synergy thing that turns her into gem and turns
her friends and her sister into the holograms
uh and they go on super music stuff and they're
able to help out the the I think the orphanage
or the, Oh no. Yeah. They were orphans and starlight
house was the orphanage in order to keep the
orphanage open. They had to go on the get. Yeah.
But Jim and the holograms, I absolutely love
that show. It's, it's so good. And don't get
me wrong. I love thunder cats and I love mask
too. But Jim just, it's, it's truly outrageous.
And in my head cannon, yeah my elaborate my elaborate
like gi joe thing that i wrote in my head uh
-huh issues uh her father was killed by zartan
he stole the technology and that's that's why
he did like the he had like a hologram technology
as opposed to being like a like mystique yep
there you go 86 has a couple of runners -up,
but I won't spend too much time on them. Silverhawks
only got one season, but Silverhawks was a pretty
cool animated series. I had a few of the toys
as a kid. Pee -wee's Playhouse, The Man's Risk
and Peace. Pee -wee's Playhouse debuted that
year. And then it's Balky and his cousin Larry.
Perfect Strangers debuted that year as well.
But the winner is that alien life form. You gotta
love Alf. Has anybody seen the yellow ribbon?
I don't know. What color is it? Ha! Yeah! I kill
me. Hold this wire while I turn on the juice.
Sure. Right there. You know, that's my shortwave
radio. Do you know how long I long? It took me
ten years to put that thing together. I'm glad
to see you haven't wasted your life. First the
phone, and now the radio. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What
about the phone? You're on it all the time. What?
First I can't use the radio, now I can't use
the phone. What next? The curling iron? Your
toothbrush? You used my toothbrush? Yours is
the green one, right? It was. I think you should
leave this for a qualified repairman. Well, Mr.
Smarty, it's Mr. Science. For your information,
I've located the problem. There's no power going
into the high -voltage transformer. Hey, you
want power? That would help. Your call. This
is another defining show for me because I literally...
I think he's no longer with us. I'll have to
do some research on this. The kid, Benji Gregory,
that plays Brian in this show. As a kid, as a
6, 7, 8 -year -old, 9 -year -old, 10 -year -old,
because Alf only lasted four seasons from 86
to 90. I saw myself as Brian when I was watching
the show every time because I wanted to be Alf's
friend. Just because I thought Alf was cool as
hell all the time. And I know all about him trying
to get back to Melmac and everything else. And
he got him and dissected him. Yep, yep, yep.
It has the most depressing ending of any series
ever. No, right? Except for Dinosaurs. Oh, no.
Dinosaurs. Damn it. Dinosaurs. They all died.
Yeah, unfortunately. But yes, unfortunately,
Benji Gregory passed away just last year. Wow.
He was 46 years old. And I know that Max Wright
has been gone for a while now. He died in 2019.
Played Willie Tanner, the father of the series.
Well, I just want to give the audience a clarification.
But no, Alf, you know, everything that Puppet
did, Paul Fusco as the voice of Alf, just absolutely
love, I mean, just love the voice. I forget which
season it is, but there's one of the seasons
where the intro or one of the episodes is him
singing to Bob Seger's old -time rock and roll.
Yeah, that was Easy Money. It's a Tom Cruise
movie, but it's a parody of that. Oh, it's the
Pool Shark one. No, it's not the Pool Shark one.
It's the one where he becomes a pimp. Oh, God,
what was it called? Color of money? No. Oh. What
is it? Risky business. Risky business, that's
what it is. There's a famous scene where he's
in his underwear and he's sliding on the hardwood
floors. Yep, yep, yep. But I remember Isaac Asimov,
of all people, wrote a review of ALF. For TV
Guide. Oh no. And he actually thought it was
a good show. What he liked about it. Was that
Alf's plumbing. In his spaceship. Was made out
of gold. Because. The whole reason gold is valuable.
Is because it's rare. And on Alf's planet it
wasn't rare. So they used it for plumbing. And
he thought that was a very. Kind of science fiction.
Thing. That on another planet gold wouldn't be
valuable. it would just be commonplace if, if,
you know, so I, I, that was like, I, I remember
reading that and like, wow, this is interesting.
So. Yep. Absolutely. Yeah. No, I mean, ha ha
ha. You killed me here. No problem. Like, Oh
God, just everything, everything out. Every like
I had the elf doll as a kid, the elf talking
doll. I got, I had so many out. I had so much
out stuff. I look, there's, I could, and technically
I kind of sort of have, but I could stop purchasing.
And like I said, I haven't bought a Funko Pop
in a while because I just haven't had the time
or the finances to do so. There are plenty that
I still need to get. But if Funko ever made a
Funko Pop ALF, and they have not yet as of this
recording. That's weird. As long that they haven't
made it yet. Yeah, because they've made everything
else. I know, right? If they made ALF and I had
the ALF, that would practically make my collection
complete. But yeah, ALF is the 86 choice. On
to 87. 87, man. Another bloodbath. You got Unsolved
Mysteries. We're entering the age of this TV
thing of... Inside Edition, even though Inside
Edition came out in a different year, but hard
copy and that kind of stuff. So you got Unsolved
Mysteries, hard copy, Married with Children,
Full House, Star Trek, The Next Generation, DuckTales,
My Two Dads, Concentration slash Classic Concentration.
Those are the runners up. Please enter program.
The android at the bar said you could show me
my old ship. Let me see it. Insufficient data.
Please specify parameters. The Enterprise. Show
me the bridge of the Enterprise, you chattering
piece of... There have been five Federation ships
with that name. Please specify by registry number.
N -C -C -1 -7 -O -1. No bloody A, B, C, or D.
Program complete. Enter when ready. Because those,
while I enjoyed watching most of those, hard
copies, whatever, those are not the choice because
those are not like... So for animation, it moves
from... Even though technically Transformers
didn't end until 1987. I mean, after that movie
in 86, how do you follow that up? I mean, technically
you follow it up. Headmasters. Technically, you
follow it up with the five faces of darkness,
but franchise -wise, how do you follow that up?
You know, you find a human. You gave Rodimus
a chance. He failed miserably, so they brought
back Optimus. Uh -huh. How do you follow that
up? You find a guy who's living in Japan who
fails and gets to... Banished to America and
the foot track him down and. And pour a bunch
of mutagen down the sewer and. Uh -huh. Man,
there was nothing like getting those video cassettes
from Burger King. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
And the next year getting the toy. Oh, my God.
We were getting those toys for like five, ten
bucks when they first came out. Oh, my God. But
that show. Hey, guys. Raphael here, the Teenage
Mutant Ninja Turtles. Did you say podcast? Dudes.
You're listening to a podcast on the Gatecast
Radio Network. Cowabunga. Tonight I dine on turtle
soup. Those first five episodes. David Wise,
I know you're up there. Resting in peace, sir.
But we got a chance to interview David Wise in
2010. Just, mm -mm. Those first five episodes
are just so good. Yeah, TMNT, the 87 choice.
88, there are only three. No, yeah, there are
only three runners -up. Garfield and Friends.
I love Garfield and Friends. It was basically
the comic strip come to life when it came to
Garfield. The Anne Friends part was a lot more
interesting. Garfield, Odie, Nermal, and John.
Okay, cool. That was his original comic strip,
U .S. Acres. Yeah. And then U .S. Acres. Yep.
U .S. Acres with Orson and Roy and whatever the
other names of the characters were that I don't...
have in front of me i liked that i thought that
was interesting i thought that was fun and i
mean lorenzo music is the voice of garfield i
mean that was just amazing that was so cool smart
kids watch this show other kids change the channel
cops not the live action version this is the
central organization in the future time yes fighting
crime in a future time that's right which later
they would have to actually change the name to
cyber cops to not confuse people with the live
action show cops central organization of police
specialists fighting crime in a future time yeah
they had to change the name to cyber cops and
then i think the first No, second. I need to
take that back. Second television show I ever
saw Judd Hirsch in. The first one was Taxi. This
one was Dear John. But the choice for 1988 is
none other than... You're going to see a trend
here, folks. Not often, but you're going to see
a trend here. A pup named Scooby -Doo. If we're
going to catch that monster in the act, we're
going to have to go inside Scooby's doghouse.
Will you go inside for a Scooby snack? Two Scooby
snacks? All right, three. But that is my final
offer. I love this show. This show... puts all
of the classic 60s versions of these characters
and ramp like freddy is ramped up beyond belief
and then he had a character finally well yeah
yeah exactly yeah and i love the running joke
about red herring red herring yep i was the one
he did it was the one time that fred had to like
was trying to like break his habit of always
accusing him It was the one time he didn't accuse
Red Herring, and Red Herring was the guy who
did it. Yeah, he actually did it, yeah. It's
so cool. So, yeah, that's 1988. 1989, I only
mention this because this is the year this debuted,
even though it's not my choice, so that's why
I'm mentioning it. But I wouldn't actually see
this until 1994. In 1994, I was in the hospital
for, I don't know. either a couple of days or
a week I forget I was in the hospital because
they were trying to move the pronator around
in my right arm which my right arm is the one
with the cerebral palsy they were trying to move
the pronator around to see if I could get more
range of motion and actually be able to use my
cerebral palsy arm It didn't work, unfortunately.
But that's when I first found out about when
I was 14 years old compared to when I was nine
years old in 1989. I found out all about USA
Up All Night on the USA Network. This was the
late night. You know what I'm talking about.
I do know what you're talking about. I forget
who she was, but one of the hostesses was always
up all night. All night. That's right. That's
right. On the complete opposite end of that naughtiness,
we have McGee and me. This is not my choice.
These are just the selections. I've literally
never heard of that. So McGee and me is kind
of, it's, it's not really religious, but it's
a, it's a series of videos and show. It's a,
it's a TV show thing, but I found them on video
cassette. My cousins had them. There was an episode
called skate expectations that has a song by
somebody that I absolutely love, whatever. So
there's that. But also in 89, we had the, we
had more as it progressed, but this was the year
that. Captain and the Game Master, and Super
Mario Bros. Super Show debuted. And then we had
Coach, and we had The Simpsons. Now, I wouldn't
actually get to see The Simpsons until a year
or a year and a half later. Because in either
89 or 90, I was with my dad and stepmother, and
they were at... We were at one of their friend's
houses or one of their relatives. I think it
might have been her brother's house or something.
The Simpsons came on Sunday night, 8 p .m. Eastern,
yada, yada, yada. Somebody on The Simpsons said
a bad word or something. Oh, my God, you can't
watch that, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was
forbade by my dad and my stepmother at the time.
Luckily, he's not married to her anymore. He
hadn't been married to her since 2006, thank
God. But yeah, I was not allowed to watch The
Simpsons, at least from that side of the family.
Obviously, my mom didn't care because my mom
knew better. So yeah, late 90 into 91, 92, 93,
it was all Simpsons mania, fever, whatever. But
my choice for 89 because it affected me so much
because I so wanted to be in the video game.
Captain and the Game Master. Absolutely loved
that cartoon. It was so cool. And that's not
counting the fact that I've interviewed Captain
N himself as well as King Hippo. So the voice
of Captain N is Matt Hill, and the voice of King
Hippo was Gary Chalk, who would go on to voice
other characters. He would go on to voice Grounder
in Sonic the Hedgehog, or Adventures of Sonic
the Hedgehog. He would go on to voice Optimus
Primal in Beast Wars. Uh, and do a whole, but
Gary's done a whole bunch of other stuff, but
I just absolutely loved captain and the game
master in, in 1989, 1990. Oh boy. This was a
tough choice. It was a tough choice because I,
I wanted, I didn't want to pick just like, I
know one of the choices. I've seen plenty of
the episodes, but what I remember the most about
the show and what I love most about the show
is the theme song because the theme song kicks
ass. I didn't want to just pick that because
of the theme song. I've seen one of these shows
so many times that it's so hip and tragic to
love it that it's the 90s and how whatever. That's
great. I wish I could actually find YouTube video
clips, good YouTube video clips of this one show
that's on here. Anyway, but the choices are a
series that has been going on since then with
multiple spinoffs and multiple of its own series
that will come up later. Is that a name? Yeah,
I'm sorry I'm being so long -winded here. Trying
to be dramatic over here. Law and Order debuted
in 1990. I would not really catch Law and Order
until I think late 97 or early 98. But it debuted
in 90. The one I was mentioning that I would
hope to find good video clips of on YouTube is
Video Power. Do you remember Video Power? No.
Okay, Video Power was this. It was kind of like
Nick Arcade, but it wasn't. It was this guy who
played this character named Johnny something,
and they had this animated version called the
Power Team. And the Power Team was the idiot
from Wizards and Warriors. It was Bigfoot. It
was one basketball player, and it was somebody
else. And they did all these animated adventures,
and it was kind of cool. And then the other one,
Adventures of the Super Mario Bros. 3. Love that.
Absolutely love that. The theme song thing was
the Tom and Jerry Kids show. I remember the theme
song to that all the time. And then the 90s one
that's so 90s is Tiny Toon Adventures. But the
choice goes to, because it's the show that I
remember the most, and it's the one that I had
the action figures for out of all of these, out
of most of these in the 80s. Not most of them.
but uh captain planet we need help you mean exactly
we must do as a guy advised we must combine our
powers let's do it let our powers combine by
your powers combined I don't know what it was.
Like, I don't know what it was. I wish we had,
I don't know how many environmental cartoons
we have today, considering how crappy the environment
seems to be getting these days, but man, did
that cartoon really want to really want to make
us actually do something for the environment
in 1990. So captain planet is the choice for
90, 91 dinosaurs, not the mama. Good old baby
Sinclair. Gotta love him. I love that show. Huh?
Froze to death. Yes, they did. At least they
didn't get set on fire or get molten cord. No,
he just froze to death, which is a pretty bad
way to die. Is that your pick, by the way? No,
that's an honorable mention. Clarissa explains
it all. Why did I have... Why did I... Oh, that's
why, because it was another cheat. Dallas ended
in 91, so Dallas, but that's not the pick. Darkwing
Duck. I would have picked Darkwing Duck if this
TV movie had not debuted in 91. I love Darkwing
Duck. Jim Cummings as the voice of Darkwing Duck.
You've got Terry McGovern as the voice of Launchpad.
Just that whole premise. And I know technically
it's an offshoot of Batman, and that's fine.
But just absolutely loved Darkwing Duck. But
the choice is the TV reunion movie, Knight Rider
2000. It's horrible. It is a horrible, horrible
TV movie. But it was like, hey, look. Michael
and Devin are back together and there's this
whole new plot and it's the future and it's supposed
to be what we think the future looks like and
it's not really the future but yeah but that's
the pick 92 you got for honorable mentions you
got Nick Arcade I Nick Arcade is the game show
on Nickelodeon for those that don't remember
where you got to pick various things and you
got to move this video game character named Mikey
between Life Serial and Nick Arcade. I just can't
get a break. Everybody's always controlling me.
Kind of like that platypus song in Phineas and
Ferb. So Nick Arcade, I thought that was really
cool. Batman the Animated Series, Mad About You,
and Melrose Place. Oh man, Melrose Place. Jesus,
talk about placemats. Oh boy. But yeah, as much
as I love Mad About You, as much as I love Paul
and Jamie and all that, it's got to go to Batman
the Animated Series. It's got to go to Kevin
Conroy and all of the other people who voiced
characters on that show. Lauren Lester voices
Robin. There were multiple people who voiced
Batgirl, but I think it was Melissa Gilbert.
I know Tara Strong did it one point later on
down the line, and I forget who the other one
was. was off the top of my head. You had Bob
Hastings as Commissioner Gordon. You had Tim
Curry at first. Thank God they didn't stick with
that. Have you heard the tape? Yes and no. It's
interesting. Look, they obviously got the right
guy in the end. They fixed it, thank God. Look,
I love Tim Curry. Don't get me wrong. I do. Mark
Hamill all the way. Mark Hamill nailed it. Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely. I don't know if you heard it,
but when you said Batman, the enemy series, I
let out a deep breath. It was like, he doesn't
pick. I'm violating my own rules and I'm coming
out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's the start
of the DC animated universe. Oh, it is. It's
so good. I mean, yeah, Mark Hamill, but also
like Richard Maul as Two -Face. The whole Two
-Face thing was epic. Yes, it is. It absolutely
is. And they did it right because nowadays they
always rush everything. It's like with Venom
and with Two -Face, they always just get right
to it. But he was Harvey Dent for the whole first
season. At the very end, they did the thing.
They did it so over the top. I will say that
there were two characters that... This is the
show that brought back Mr. Freeze. Mr. Freeze
was killed off in the comic books as a joke.
Joker kills him and calls him Captain Cold. This
show brought him back. Heart of Ice is one of
the best TV shows ever written. I will say there
are two characters that I think did not... do
as well as everybody else that did not get the
love. And ironically, they were the main characters
from the next movie. I don't think Catwoman was
done particularly well, even though it was Adrienne
Barbeau. I didn't like their take on her. She
never really had a great episode. And then the
Penguin, I don't think they did much. They had
one great episode with the Penguin, which is
the one where he falls in love and he's being
manipulated. The socialites want to have a criminal
crash their party. Yeah. That's a great episode,
but other than that, he doesn't have a particularly
great episode. But everybody else, everybody
else is top -notch. Mm -hmm. Roddy McDowell as
the Mad Hatter. Yes. Oh, I can't remember his
name, but we talked about him in the last, we
talked about him in one of the episodes, was
Ra's al Ghul. Wasn't it David Warner as Ra's
al Ghul? Yes, David Warner, yep. They had that
one with Jonah Hex in the Old West going up against
Ra's al Ghul. Yep. That show is so good. That
whole opening sequence. There were times I would
just watch the opening sequence with the criminals
on the rooftop and Batman comes in and things
blow up. It is the, it remains to this day, 30
years later, the iconic Batman story. Yep, yep,
yep. Absolutely, absolutely. And, you know, Yeah,
we are 33 years removed from when that show debuted.
Holy crap, it's been 33 years. Mr. Stark, I don't
feel so good. Stop it. Wrong universe. I chose
poorly. Yes, there you go. And again, it's just...
Yeah, it's so good, and they didn't even know
what it was starting, but they eventually figured
it out, and they tied everything back, and just
absolutely love it. Steve and I have had the
pleasure and the luck to be able to, even though
he's no longer with us, hope I can hold it together
for this, but in 2012, we got a chance to interview
Kevin Conroy, and that is the... Out of all the
interviews we've done, it's one of my favorites
because it's not just because it's him. It's
not just because it's the Batman stuff. It's
because of the stories that he told. And one
of the stories he tells is his experience with
9 -11. And it just... it's just so good folks
just go back and listen to the kevin conroy interview
from uh from 2012 we've interviewed lauren lester
who plays the voice of robin we've interviewed
him a couple of times uh you know and it just
batman the animated series just absolutely great
absolutely wonderful this is kevin conroy and
i am the goddamn batman now i love s'mores as
much as the next guy but i'm fresh out of marshmallows
What do you say we call it a night? 1993. Oh,
God. I can't wait until I get to the 2000s and
the 2010s where this is less and less of a bloodbath
and an easier choice. Not choices, but options
and runners -up include Marty Morphin Power Rangers,
Saved by the Bell, The College Years. Not. Not
at all. Not at all. The College Years, not the
original show. It's even worse. The college years
was only one season, and again, the only reason
why I liked the college years is, again, because
I liked the theme song, which is why it's not
a choice, why it's a runner -up. Like, I remember
watching the college years, and it's basically
them grown -up kind, or tried to be grown -up.
I remember their... R .A., the giant hulking
mic guy, more than I remember whatever the hell
they were doing on the show. And I remember that
theme song more than anything else. Once again,
as always, folks, looking at this as fiction,
not looking at this as real life. Lois and Clark,
The New Adventures of Superman debuted in 93.
Absolutely love that show. than a damn broke
in India. Did you make something for dinner?
Oh, my gosh! What happened? Lex Luthor. The rat.
Where's Lois? She was here just a second ago.
Probably scared Whitless, poor thing. Don't worry.
I'll have you out of that thing in no time. Okay,
let's see now. Do I disconnect the black wire?
Or the white one? Don't worry, I'll save you.
What do you think? Oh, no. What do I think? Lois,
I think you got some splaining to do. Clucky,
if we're gonna be partners and we're gonna be
married, I wanna be part of the act. Lois, there
are things I do you can do. Me Superman. Me super
wife. Us super in trouble. Could you hold this
argument till later and get us out of here? I
knew this was going to happen. First you know
who I am. Frazier debuted in 93. Absolutely love
Kelsey Grammer and Frazier. Frazier is my runner
-up for 93. Cool. Very cool, very cool. I don't
know how many people, because I don't know a
lot of people that actually, I don't think anybody
even besides me mentioning it here and there,
off and on, pretty much off all the time, but
this is a runner -up from 93 that debuted. Sequest
DSV starred Roy Schneider and the late Jonathan
Brandes. Jonathan Brandes was a kid back then.
And Darwin the Dolphin. Yep, Darwin the Dolphin
was in it. Also debuting in 1993, we have a medical
drama and a cop drama. We have Diagnosis Murder
with the... I was going to say the Sloans, but
it's Dick Van Dyke and, well, yeah, it is both.
And Barry Van Dyke. Yeah, that's why I was thinking,
wait a minute, yeah, it's the Van Dykes. It's
Dick and Barry Van Dyke as Mark and Steve Sloan.
And then the cop action 90s in your face. It's
none other than. Mr. Chuck Norris as Walker,
Texas Ranger. But the choice goes to Boy Meets
World. Because Boy Meets World was the first
time I saw William Daniels in a role other than
a talking car. You never watched St. Elsewhere?
No, because I was too young for St. Elsewhere
at the time. I don't ever remember watching St.
Elsewhere as a kid anywhere on any television,
from my grandmother's to my aunt's to my uncle's.
It was a 9 o 'clock one, so it would have been
too on too late. But yeah, he was, every season,
he was Dr. Mark Craig. That's where I knew him
from before Knight Rider. It was like, hey, that's
Dr. Craig. Yep, yep. But Boy Meets World, Boy
Meets World has an interesting History with the
Geekcast Radio Network. We do these top 100 countdown
things on the network. He says dejectedly. Because
I can never, I never get past like 50. You ask
me to do a list and it's like, I get past 50
and I'm like, I don't even, I haven't even heard
of anything past. Like how many cartoons did
you people watch? It's amazing. That's why we
provide a list and we just make you say, look,
pick off of here. Oh, God, that's not worse.
That's not worse. Anyway, Boy Meets World has
an auspicious history with the Geekcast Radio
Network. I am shocked and dismayed. Well, now
you can't be both. You be shocked, I'll be dismayed.
In 2015, we did the Top 100 TV Series listing,
and we did the Top 100 TV Series podcast. Boy
Meets World came in at number 50 out of 100.
And Steve Megatron and I were like, wait, what?
Only 50? Really? We then proceeded to, I then
proceeded to do podcast planning and I did up
two schedules. I said, look, we can do a podcast
this way and it'll take us this many years to
do it this way or we can do it this way and it'll
take us this many years. It still took us the
same amount of years it would have taken us if
we did it. So the two things I did was one sheets
of Microsoft Word documents were All seven seasons,
every episode, like three or four episodes per
podcast would have taken us like 10 years. Or
we can do seven seasons, seven episodes, blah,
blah, blah. It's still taking us 10 years. Like
we just finished season seven, like, I don't
know, three or four months ago. And it's almost
taken us nine years. Yes. What came in number
one? Oh, God. Number one for the TV shows? Yeah.
i'll go back and check it would seem like a thing
you would know number 50 but you know number
one well i don't well i remember number 50 because
we were so just blue uh but anyway hello folks
it is i editor tf2 and mike breaking into this
episode to let you know that I went back to the
top 100 TV shows countdown from 2015 only on
the Geekcast radio network to find out what was
the number one show. And it was Saturday Night
Live. Live from New York, it's Saturday night.
The number two show was MASH, so that's all I
got. But to answer Dave's question... The number
one show on our top 100 TV shows countdown where
Boy Meets World was number 50. The number one
show was Saturday Night Live. Now on with the
show. Yeah, I don't remember off the top of my
head. I'll get you the number one episode. Anyway,
I don't remember what number one is. But yeah,
Boy Meets World, seven seasons. Corey Matthews,
his whole family. Eric Matthews, you got... Ben
Savage, Will Friedle. Will Friedle will go on
to voice Batman, Terry McGinnis in Batman Beyond.
You're pretty strong for some clown who thinks
he's Batman. I am Batman. Rider Strong as Sean
Hunter. You got William Russ as the father. You
got Betsy Randall as the mother. William Daniels
as the teacher. I'd like to have Superman for
a dad. Hey, there's Minkus. Ow. Whoa, it's a
2000X hydrosaturator. Careful. If he sees this
baby on school grounds, he'll shag it and I'll
have to sit out the water war. Gentlemen, meet
the Hydrosat 3000Z. Blow your head clean off.
You get Daniel Fishel as Topanga. Do you remember
the time when we were... my backyard, chasing
fireflies, and you had, like, 20 in your jar,
and I had one with a broken bulb. And then Eric
came outside and started teasing us. He said,
Corey loves Topanga. You said, yeah, I hate her.
That's when I knew. Corey, we were only six.
Who cares? How could you know then? I'm not even
sure I know what I love you means now. All I
know is you and I belong together. I mean, I've
always been able to talk to you, to make you
laugh, and I've always, always wanted to take
care of you. All right. Fang, I've been completely
honest with you. So, I got my jean jacket, so
I'll leave you alone. so that's what i love you
means yeah bye cory i love you too i was always
hoping you did just yeah just one of the coolest
family based television series and like actually
teaches you lessons about stuff because it basically
for those that don't know first of all go over
to listen to pod meets podcaster meets world
here on the geek cast radio network or if you
want to listen to daniel official writer strong
and will friedel relive their them watching their
own show you can listen to their podcast on iheart
media uh it's pod meets world um but basically
it's cory matthews 11 year old boy he's coming
up in the world so every season is them growing
up and by the seventh season they're off to college
so yeah boy meets world is the 93 choice 1994
not as much as a bloodbath but it was a tough
choice between two there are three runners up
i'm not going to spend too much time because
one of these shows i actually want to do season
by season at some point on the show I know you're
going to cry wolf on this because it was a movie
first and a TV show second, but I only ever saw
the TV show. That doesn't make a difference.
No, it's not my choice. I saw the movie, but
I saw the TV show first. And I like the actress
in the TV show better than the movie. Weird Science
is the TV show. Vanessa Angel played the... Lisa.
Kelly LeBrock role. Kelly LeBrock role, right.
And I had gone back after seeing a couple episodes
of the TV show and I watched the movie because
the movie I think came out in 84, 83, 84. I was
four or five years old. Yeah, so whatever. That's
a runner -up. And then the other runner -up is
L .A. Law. This is the show that I thought of
doing multiple season reviews of on like... after
we get through Columbo. I don't know if it'd
be with you or whatever, but I remember watching
L .A. Law with my mom. It had... Oh, God. The
guy... Richard Dysart. Yeah, Richard Dysart.
The guy who did the voice of the Clock King from
Batman the Animated Series. Oh, crap. Him, yeah.
Jimmy Smits. Oh, God. The guy from... The guy
from Clash of Titans is in it, too. Harry Hamlin.
That's what I was trying to think of, yeah. One
of the partridges is Susan Day. Susan Day, yep.
I just loved Ally Law. And Diana Mulder had the
best exit of any TV show of all time. Yep. I
just loved Ally Law as a kid. Yeah, I did, too.
I watched Ally Law. Yep. So then my two choices
for what I was actually going to choose. 1994
is basically sort of version of Knight Rider,
but not Knight Rider. Viper. You remember Viper?
I remember it was a thing that existed. Viper
was... It was like a time with the actual car.
Yeah, it was a Dodge Viper. It was a couple of
Dodge Vipers. It was different Dodge Vipers.
It was the traditional 94 Dodge Viper, red Viper,
that transformed into the Defender, which was
this ultra super sleek kind of car. And they
had to find a driver for it. It starred the late,
great... What's... Oh, God, what was his name?
Jeff... I know Jeff Cake took over in later seasons,
but... Oh, Joe. I forget what his name is off
the top of my head. Damn it. Anyway, Viper. I
love that show at the time, but the choice goes
to... And I know I didn't list this. I should
have listed this, but I'm glad I didn't because
it might have been a bloodbath between Batman
and X -Men, but X -Men also debuted in 92. Thankfully,
I didn't list X -Men. But the choice goes to
1994's Spider -Man, the animated series. Also,
meh. What? You crazy? You crazy! Marvel was always
chasing Warner Brothers fumes. Okay, fine. Yeah,
but just... The Marvel ones were always like
a Cliff Notes version of the classic comics.
Where the DC stuff would take, like, comics and,
like, adapt them and, you know... You know, Laughing
Fish was Joker's Fighter Revenge and The Laughing
Fish. Like, it was, like, Secret Wars was, like,
three episodes with, like, half a dozen characters.
Eh. And then, like, the CGI city didn't match
with the 2D animation. Yeah, I know, that's...
By then, I was... Because the X -Men burned me
out first because I was a huge X -Men fan. When
that premiered, I was like, oh boy! And it was
like, why is Jubilee in this team already? Why
is Gambit in this team already? Where's Nightcrawler?
I will say when they brought it back for the
Disney and they had Nightcrawler being awesome,
I was like, okay. I haven't finished. Nightcrawler
is awesome. And they killed Gambit, which is
good. I hate Gambit. He'll come back. He's an
X -Men. X -Men never die. That's true. Even before
the whole... terrible whatever that island was
called can't krakow before that all the garbage
on krakow yeah x -men still never died yeah but
no i i loved spider -man the animated series
i as someone who had not i had only dad as a
kid i had only i was more into reading novels
like like like hardy boys books and that kind
of stuff when i was a kid i didn't read comics
until like Literally right after I saw X -Men
and Spider -Man. I did not pick up my first comic
book. I didn't start reading comics until I was
in high school. Okay, well, just saying. Yeah,
I understand. I read books, and then when I got
into high school, I got into comics. See, here's
the thing. I got in in the 90s, which is the
perfect time to get into comics. So I have a
huge, massive collection of worthless garbage.
Nothing I own has any value because they're all
90s comics. With the exception, with the weird...
The weird exception of the first appearance of
Deadpool. I do have that. Very cool, very cool.
That is worth money, but everything else is just
junk. But no, Spider -Man the Animated Series,
yeah, I agree with you. There are some visuals
that are a little rough, and I agree. They are
very rough. I always thought it was weird going
from the 2D animation into the 3D web swinging.
I understand what they were kind of going for
there, but it didn't really work very well at
all. However, the stories, the voice acting,
a lot of the better episodes, I really dug. And
Mark Hamill was the Hobgoblin. Hobgoblin. He
was doing the Joker. He was doing the Joker.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fine. But really, for
me, where it's end all, be all, it's my introduction
to Jennifer Hale as a voice actress, as Felicia
Hardy, the black cat. I've been in love with
her for 30 years. 30, 31 years. But no, I, you
know, we, we, we covered each of the five seasons
over on tune cast years ago. My buddy Eduardo
and I, and we really, it just, I don't know.
I, for 94 and all the, all the stuff that came
out in 94. It was the one show that has stuck
with me all this time. It's the one show that
I can pick out my favorite episodes of and watch.
Like, you know, yeah, you say that I just saw
literally like two days ago somebody reposting
the whole thing of, hey, you know what? They
originally did the Secret Wars or the this, that,
and they're posting clips from that show. You
know. So it is what it is. 95. 95 is a rough
year. 95, I don't remember watching a lot of
television because 95 was a transition year for
me. Late 94, I ended up, late 94, early 95, I
ended up leaving my dad and my stepmother's house
and I ended up in the state of Kentucky's care.
So I ended up in the state's custody for four
years from 95 to 99. Uh, now keep in mind, I
was born in 1980. So by 98, I should be 18 years
old, which means blah, blah, blah. Well, because
of other things I had to actually extend, I had
to volunteer to extend my commitment past my
18th birthday. So I could even graduate high
school. It's a whole thing folks, or at least
it was back then. But anyway, so 95 was kind
of rough, but Off and on throughout 95, 96, and
97, I do remember watching the Drew Carey show.
So funny. I did not know they unironically named
Oswald's character what they named him. And silence
from the... I mean, I watched the show, but I
don't remember Oswald. Yeah. Oswald was Diedrich
Bader's character. I don't know what they named
him. They named him Oswald, I guess. Oswald,
Lee Harvey. That's what I thought you were going
with. I don't remember that at all. I don't remember
there being real subtle social biting commentary.
It was meanie. Yeah, Mimi, Drew, and... I can't
remember the guy from Whose Line Is It Anyway,
who I think is really funny. Ryan Stiles. Yep.
Yep. He's always the best when he's paired up
with Colin Mochrie. Yes, yes he is. Yep. But
yeah, Drew Carey's show is the choice for 95.
96. 96 has a number of... honorable mentions,
but it only has one choice. Honorable mentions
go to Beast Wars, Pacific Blue, Forensic Files,
which I'll talk about in a moment here, Superman
the Animated Series, and the TV movie version,
the Ted Danson version of Gulliver's Travels.
They showed this to us. Oh, that was good. Yeah.
Yes. Oh, I love it. Might have to actually review
it on the podcast one of these days. But I was
so, because again, this is 1996. I obviously
hadn't seen Cheers in years. And I was like,
oh, I wonder what Ted Danson's up to. Oh, they're
going to show us this thing in school? Ted Danson
has this character. I'm like, oh, interesting.
Yeah, I love that. Love Gulliver's Travels. So
yeah, there's that. But Pacific Blue was cops
on bikes. There's plenty of police procedurals.
There's plenty of various interesting ways you
can do police procedurals. I just thought this
was interesting because it's not Sacramento.
Come on, Mike. Santa Monica. And I'm like, okay,
how are you going to do this? And I was like,
oh, that's kind of cool. And I kind of like the
show. This is going to come up later, but this
is why I mentioned forensic files here. I'm not
going to talk about this too long. Forensic Files
has become the true crime show that anytime an
episode comes on, as long as I hear like the
first minute and a half to two minutes of it,
I can tell you exactly what episode it is, no
matter what it is. Because I've seen all 14 seasons
of that show over and over and over and over
and over again. And the only reason why is because
of the late, great... Peter Thomas. Peter Thomas
was the narrator on that show. Peter Thomas has
a voice that just once you know the show, once
you know the at least for me, once I know the
stuff and I've already like I've already taken
in the information like I just like his voice.
Cincinnati, Ohio, the sixth largest city in the
United States. Because of its size and sophistication,
its health care facilities are among the finest
anywhere. Dr. Daryl Sartorius was one of the
city's most successful and respected heart surgeons,
but he was also impatient and demanding. For
the last almost decade and a half, I have fallen
asleep to forensic files every night of my life.
Because I know that shows so much, it's just
background noise now. It's just what it is. But
when I first watched it, I was like, oh, this
is very, very, very cool. Again, Superman, the
animated series, got to talk about that briefly
because that has three of the best episodes of
the DC animated universe. If you don't know what
I'm talking about, well, then you know nothing
about the world's finest. I figured you might
want to help me bring Luthor in. A partnership?
You're joking. What, really? I never really watched
the Superman one. I only saw two episodes. To
be fair, I was never a huge Superman fan. Okay,
that's fine. And you can find this in movie form
by itself. You don't need to watch the show.
So they did this as three episodes. They also,
like I said, released this in movie form. But
I believe it's in season two. World's Finest
Parts 1, 2, and 3. The Joker and Lex team up.
So you've got Mark Hamill and Clancy Brown. Yeah.
In Superman the Animated Series, Tim Daly plays
the voice of Superman. Dana Delaney plays the
voice of Lois Lane, who needs to team up with
Superman against Lex and Joker. Batman needs
to team up with Superman. Exactly. So Kevin Conrad,
uh -huh. Well, obviously not Lois, but... I was
just pointing out the fact of Dana Delaney being
the voice of Lois in the show. I wasn't saying
that she was teaming up with him. So Kevin Conroy
comes in as Batman, and it's amazing. It's some
of the best television and animation ever. However...
Can I just quickly add one thing I did think?
Because they did kind of keep with the great
casting. You're right, Clancy Brown was a terrific
Lex Luthor. I think the most brilliant casting
of all was Gilbert Gottfried as Mr. and Mrs.
Blix. I actually just recently read his first
appearance in the comics. You totally hear Gilbert
Gottfried's voice when the character talks. That
was spot on casting. Oh, absolutely it was. Yeah,
it was. Now, interesting to note that Superman
the Animated Series Jor -El, I think. Yes. Yeah.
Jor -El is the voice. It's Shooter McGavin. It's
Christopher McDonald. So in 1996, Christopher
McDonald got to play Superman's father, as well
as the biggest villain in golf, Shooter McGavin
in Happy Gilmore. But the 1996 choice can only
go to one show that is a CBS television show
by the name of Nash Bridges starring Don Johnson
and Cheech Marin. Turn around. Nash Bridges.
Jake? What happened to your hair, man? I shaved
it off, Dominguez. What happened to yours? I
missed a couple of payments. You working? What
else? Who are you? We're with the gas company.
Cops. He's a cop? Oh, you failed to identify
yourself, huh? I was busy. I bet. I want him
arrested for assault and battery and breaking
and entering. Well, let's just talk about you
first. What do you say, Daryl? You know, attempting
suicide's a crime. Now, you see, Daryl, if we
arrest you, we're obligated to search this place.
And with you being on probation and all, and...
If we happen to run across, oh, say, some controlled
substances. What if I didn't press charges? Well,
that would be a start. What do you want? Now,
do you see how easy that was? We're looking for
a guy that's making some wonky steroids. You
know, like the kind you sold to Bart Mackey?
Hey, this is my gig. Back off, Bubba. I'm in
no mood. Also starring Jeff Perry, Jody Lynn
O 'Keefe, and others. Nash Bridges would run
from 1996 to 2001. It would get six seasons on
CBS. It would get a reunion movie on USA, I think,
in 2021. It was okay. Whatever. But Nash is basically
standard police procedural type stuff. But it's
a cop out in San Francisco. who has a 1971 Hemi
Cuda as his car kind of thing. And it was just,
I don't know, it hit me at the same time that
Walker was in the middle of its run. And that
same kind of sort of year, they had Sammo Hung
doing Martial Law. And they had this whole CBS
Action Friday Night block. And as much as I like
Miami Vice, I prefer... Nash Bridges to it. Because,
I don't know, it just hit better for me, I guess.
And it would be my number one cop show for a
long, long time. Up until 2003. And it's still
kind of my number one cop show for the most part.
But that's the 96 choice going into 1997. Oh
boy. 1997. Now... Even though we've already talked
about Batman the Animated Series, these are runners
-up, so I don't feel like I have to talk about
these more because it's still more of that. But
in that year of 97, they branched off and did
the new Batman Adventures slash the new Batman
Superman Adventures because Batman the Animated
Series ended in 95. They brought it back as the
new Adventures of Batman, and then they combined
both shows into the new Batman Superman Adventures.
The only reason why I bring this up is because...
I love the music theme changes for the opening
theme for the Batman Superman Adventures. I love
how they combined the two themes. That was so
cool. This year is the debut of Stargate SG -1.
So love that show. Need to get back into that
show. Might end up doing a series here on the
podcast with that. This was the debut of, I believe
it only had four seasons. I think it ran from
97 to 2002 or 2000 or whatever, however long
it is. Beyond Belief, Fact or Fiction. With Freaks,
Jonathan Freaks. It was... Or am I wrong? No,
you're right. He took over. Oh, he took over.
Yeah, it was... Oh, the other guy. Was it Thor?
Not Thor. Thanos. Oh, really? Josh... It was
one of the Brolins. It was either Josh or James.
Was it James Brolin or Josh Brolin? I forget
which Brolin it was. All the memes are William
Frakes or Jonathan Frakes. Yeah. Yeah, because
he was the guy that was honestly most recognizable
from that. Which... Yeah, so... But, yeah, no,
Beyond Belief was the one where I just absolutely
loved it more than most of the other ones because
it was just easier to... Yeah, so, yeah, it was
James Brolin, 97, and then Jonathan Frakes, he
only did it one year, and then Frakes took over
98 to 2002. Oh, wait, the show came back in 2021
and it's still running? Oh, man, I need to. Oh,
boy. Anyway, but from 97 to 2000, it was narrated
by the late, great Don LaFontaine, the movie
trailer guy. And then in 2002, it was narrated
by Campbell Lane. And then currently it's debuted
by somebody who I can't pronounce their name.
I always loved this because it was audience participation
type show where it's like, we're going to present
you with five stories. You have to pick which
ones are fact and which ones are fiction. And
then they presented you with the stories and
you have to just like, I just always loved that.
I thought that was cool. But I had to pick a
comedy for this year because this is a romantic
comedy from, I think CBS that I absolutely loved.
and it's probably one of the only comedies that
i'll probably pick dharma and greg with thomas
gibson and jenna elfman the feng shui is great
and the place just loses positive energy it's
not practical the commute downtown would kill
me don't worry sweetie just let the universe
provide the universe doesn't provide i provide
i bust my ass 80 hours a week Sounds like somebody
needs to meditate. Uh -oh. Sounds like somebody
needs to file for divorce. Really? You want to
play that card? Because I will take you and your
uptight bourgeois family for every penny you've
got. Bye -bye. Bye -bye. I just loved that. That
show was so different. It just was. It was so
different and so fun because he's so straight
-laced and... upper crust and tied up his ass
because of his parents. She's so hippy -dippy
because of her parents and how they are. It's
got Alan Rachins in it. It's got the guy, I forget
what the guy's name is. He was in a bunch of
movies and stuff. It's just so fun. I absolutely
love Darwin and Greg. 98. We got another true
crime thing that debuted this year, City Confidential.
The only reason why I want to... Bring this up
as it was narrated by the late great Paul Winfield.
Absolutely love that. Glittering like a man -made
gem, the city of Seattle adorns the curved coastline
of Washington's Puget Sound. It is a high -priced
town made rich by companies like Boeing, Microsoft,
and Starbucks. Corporate titans nestle in the
beautiful scenery of the Pacific Northwest. A
few miles east of the city skyline is Lake Washington,
whose blue waters and sandy shoreline attract
Seattle's most affluent residents. But in the
fall of 1990, someone else was living among the
engineers, entrepreneurs, and the educated of
Seattle's Gold Coast. A serial killer. That fall,
three young women were found dead. Murdered.
All three gruesomely posed by their killer. Finding
the killer would ultimately shine a strong light
into the dark forest and comfortable superiority
of Seattle's posh suburb. Celebrity death match
on MTV debuted in 1998 with Judge Mills Lane
doing the refereeing. Yeah. That's not the choice.
Felicity debuted this year. First of the J .J.
Abrams TV shows that I noticed. That's not the
choice because the only choice can go to David
Hasselhoff in the eyepatch role of the year.
Nick Fury, Agent of S .H .I .E .L .D. From the
pages of entertainment history. From a brand
renowned for nonstop action adventure, from a
name that stirs the imagination, from a universe
where good is heroic and evil sets the screen
ablaze, comes a man who will always remain a
hero. I'll get that vampire's blood if I have
to suck it from her neck. Made for TV movie starring
him. Gary Chalk is in it as Dumb Dumb. And yeah,
I just... absolutely love that just yeah 100
love it so 99 you got anything you want to say
about 98 or 97 before i get to 99 i never watched
donner and greg and i never i i think i found
out that nick's region of shield was the thing
at way after the fact oh okay okay 99 we've got
Okay, now I'm feeling anal retentive. I was about
to say in alphabetical order, but these aren't
in alphabetical order until I move this. All
right, 1999. We have, in alphabetical order,
Angel, Batman Beyond, Beast Machines, now and
again, The Sopranos, and SVU. Technically, SVU
should be in between Beast Machines and now and
again if it was the full title, but since it's
not... Angel is my favorite and it is only, it's
not my pick, but it is my favorite of the two
Joss Whedon shows that I've seen because I've
only seen Buffy and Angel. But out of those two,
I prefer Angel over the Buffy show. Hey, big
guy. You're in another car. Try this last one
and end up in the drink. Spike. Look at you.
Just turn around and walk away. You're a... Spike!
You're a bloody puppet! You're a wee little puppet,
man. Ow! Hey, that's enough. Angel, what the
hell happened to you? You look ridiculous. Get
out of here, Spike. Oh, my God, Angel, you're
a... Shut up! What are you people looking at?
Well? They're looking at the wee little puppet
man. Stupid. Yes, I'm a puppet. Doesn't mean
you don't have work to do. I stuck with Buffy
longer. Angel's only five seasons. I forget how
many seasons Buffy was. I'm just saying Buffy
would get my vote more because of familiarity
than anything else. I really got into Angel and
I saw one episode of Firefly. Beast Machines.
I blinked and it got cancelled. Yep. Beast Machines
is the predecessor to Beast Wars. It's the sequel
to Beast Wars. Oh, yeah. It takes place afterwards.
Yeah, sorry. It screws up the lore of Cybertron.
Cybertron was always organic. It's like, what?
It tells its own story. But it's tied into everything
else, though. Yes, I know. They were trying to
tell something different. There were things I
liked. I liked Beast Machines until the end.
Yeah, that was... It screwed up everything. I
mean, they were trying to give them a happy ending
considering the sacrifice. Like I said, I liked
it until the end. I love the stuff with Rhinox
becoming Tankor and actually like, oh no, I'm
not mind -controlled. I just like being evil.
That was cool. I like how Caveman threw Waspinator
into space through time and space to Cybertron.
Yeah. Caveman. Yeah, cavemen and women. It also
undid Waspinator's happy ending, which I didn't
like. Yeah, poor Waspinator. He can never catch
a break. And then Megatron becomes optimal optimist
and keeps saying that over and over and over
and over again. Yeah. We get it. That's the name
of the toy. Thank you. That was Dan Didio, who
later went on to do things done with DC Comics.
No, Dan wasn't on the show. No, I think Dan was
on that show. No, he wasn't. Okay. On Beast Machines?
No, he wasn't. Beast Machines, yeah. I thought
it was Beast Machines. No, he was not. It was
Robert... It was Bob Ward and Larry Dottilio
on Beast Machines. Dan was not anywhere near
that. Pretty sure. Beast Machines, Transformers...
That's weird. It comes up right away. What? For
him? Somebody's crediting it wrong. Developed
by Marty Eisenberg, Robert Enskeer, Robert Buckley,
Ian Pearson, Mark Ralston. Yeah, Dan's name isn't
anywhere on here. And it's best known for being
the producer who informed Mark Wolfman that Beast
Wars had no ties to the original series and to
do as he pleased with Generation 1 continuity
when outlining Beast Machines. And then instructed
Bob Sker and Marty Eisenberg to disregard any
previous incarnations of the series in writing
Beast Wars. Really? That's weird. As Beast Wars
was too, quote, continuity heavy. I knew it!
I knew it! I knew it! It transforms things more
than you did. You should be embarrassed. You
should genuinely be embarrassed. So where are
we? We're 99. You keep talking about things you
weren't picking. Yeah, it's not picking. Now
and Again. Now and Again was a short -lived series.
This was so silly. So this was... It was a series
starring Dennis Haysbert, Eric Close, and John
Goodman. And it was a series. It was like, I've
been wanting to get this on DVD for so long.
Like it was this weird series where it was kind
of like chances are where the guy dies and he
gets reincarnated kind of thing. And he wants
to go back to his old life. this that the other
thing and and everything else and uh margaret
collins is in it um but yeah again it was one
of those like i wonder yeah here we go given
a new life michael is kept in an apartment where
he's trained by government experts led by dr
theodore morris In the art of espionage, despite
his new life and new abilities, Michael longs
to return to his wife Lisa and daughter Heather.
So there's that. It was just one of those weird
things that I just absolutely latched onto. The
Sopranos was... I know that it... I was 19 at
the time. I was just graduating high school.
I was trying to figure out if I wanted to go
to college, trying to figure out what I wanted
to do with my life. I didn't have time for The
Sopranos. I've since come around to The Sopranos
and enjoyed various bits and pieces of it. It
was okay. Special Victims Unit, I've been watching
Special Victims Unit for 26 years or so off and
on. And what they've done with the characters
has been so amazing and whatever else. But the
choice goes to Batman Beyond because I've been
living Batman Beyond life for 26 years. I have,
except the new current ones that are out that
I haven't been able to get yet, I have all the
Batman Beyond Funko Pops. But I know every single
episode, all 52 of them, inside and out. Batman
Beyond Return of the Joker. I have all the music.
I just absolutely love that show. 27. I accept
nothing short of excellence from all who work
for me. I think I can handle it. Very good then,
Mr. McGinnis. Welcome to my world. Now, the Dark
Knight will rise again to drive the shadow of
evil from the streets of Gotham. Right? Coming
in at number 27, this is where we will see the
other number one fall for this episode. So one
person had this at number one. I will just read
the little blurb and see if you guys can pinpoint
it or not. It successfully evolved this character's
mythos rather than merely repeating it. Its cyberpunk
aesthetic, emotional mentorship, dynamic and
futuristic setting made it one of the boldest
superhero animation reinventions ever attempted.
We're talking about 1999s from the WB Batman
Beyond. I'm sorry, Mike. Your number one falls
right here at number 27. It was 16th last time.
It falls all the way down to number 27. So it
fell 11 spots, which was the exact same. The
Family Guy, Garfield, and Darkwing Duck before
the tiebreaker all fell. They all fell 11 spots.
Exactly. We'll start with you, Mike. What do
you think of Batman Beyond being right here at
number 27? Okay, so here's the thing, folks.
Batman Beyond is in my blood. It is the second
franchise only to Transformers. And I say franchise
even though it is only one cartoon. But I have
everything I can possibly have when it comes
to this series other than art prints and things
like that. clothing or anything like that i have
the complete series blu -ray set i literally
other than the ones that are about to release
in july via amazon i have every single funko
pop of batman beyond i love this show 52 episodes
plus return of the joker the the animated film
I just love this show. What I love about this
show is when I found Batman Beyond in 1999, I
had already stepped away from the DC animated
universe. Yes, I had seen World's Finest and
I had seen various episodes of Superman, the
animated series at the time. But after that,
from 97 to 98 to 99, when this show began January
10th of that year, I had no clue. I thought DCAU
was done. I thought they were done doing Batman
episodes. And I saw the Rebirth two -parter,
and I'm like, Old Man Bruce holding a gun, pointing
at a criminal? What is going on here? I didn't
know what my 19 -year -old self didn't know what
in the heck was going on. I literally had to
watch every single episode of this show at the
time. Fast forward years later, Steve Megatron
and I would create Legends of the Dark Knight.
We would go through every episode of BTS and
Batman Beyond and just absolutely love this show.
It's got great animation. It's got a great soundtrack
done by Christopher Carter, Lolita Romanis, and
Michael McQuistion, the Dynamic Music Partners.
I've interviewed all of them multiple times.
Absolutely love it. It's one of the best Batman
shows ever. it's dirt any thoughts on batman
beyond what the hell could i possibly add after
that sorry like i said batman beyond is in my
blood i i can go thumbs up good show i mean that's
all i can really add mr wayne mr wayne terry
you're hurt just groggy who did this it was me
But your history. Who sent that thing? It didn't
say. Whoever it was. They didn't stop at one.
Seven against two. Pretty bad odds. For them.
And everyone will say, oh, that show's just an
action show. There's no emotion. There's plenty
of emotion in that show. If you don't think there's
any emotion in that show, basically they repeat
what happened to Bruce. They do it in a different
way to Terry, where his father dies. He has to
pick up the mantle. He has to pick up the mask,
even though he breaks into Bruce. So you have
this whole mixing of the genres, not genres,
but the mixing of the shows, of the old with
the new. how terry wants to do it versus how
bruce is used to doing it and this that and the
other thing and they work in the jokers with
a z and the jokers gang and they sometimes bring
in some of the old villains but they try their
best not to and they try to make up new villains
and ink is by far his number one rogue in the
rogues gallery for batman beyond because there
isn't much anybody else i mean blight blight
has the great meme where terry's like you killed
my father and he's like do you have any idea
how little that narrows it down yeah yeah exactly
uh so batman beyond absolutely love batman beyond
that music man just oh i can listen to that music
all day and i do 2000 runners up are andromeda
which is the kevin sorbo show this year csi debuted
so that started that series that long running
series Yes, Dear, which was a comedy with Mark
Addy and... Oh, what's the other guy? Gene Louisa
Kelly is in it, I believe, and other people.
Boston Public is also a runner -up because I
haven't seen... William Shatner. Huh? William
Shatner. William Shatner? Wasn't he in Boston
Public? Wasn't he? Maybe as a guest? I'm thinking
of a different one. Boston Legal? You're talking
about... Boston Legal, I'm sorry. You're thinking
of... Not William Shatner. You're thinking of...
I'm thinking of William Shatner, but I might
be getting the show wrong. He was a lawyer. He
played Denny Crane in a legal thing with Boston
in the title. Okay, so James Spader was in Boston
Legal, I think. Okay, that was probably the one
I'm thinking of, then. I apologize. No, no, no,
it's fine. Boston Public was the public school
with Chai McBride as the principal. It has Jerry
Ryan from, it has Seven of Nine as one of the
teachers. It has Joey McIntyre as one of the
teachers in it from New Kids on the Block. It's
a show that just, I don't know, it doesn't get
as much love because guess what? It's not on
physical media and I don't think it's on any
streaming service either. Pisses me off. I got
teachers initiating walkouts and adopting hookers
and beating the crap out of each other. You know,
I don't know what to do anymore. Student says
the wrong thing to you. Boom, boom. Parents come
in and complain. Boom, boom, boom. We are the
role models. Anyway, I used to love that show.
But the choice is, and this is the only time,
I'm pretty sure on my list, this is the only
time I will go reality TV. In 2000, there was
a reality TV war of what show you were going
to choose. Because this is the first time reality
television really kind of took off. You can either
pick eating bugs with Jeff Probst or living in
a house with other strangers. No, this is not
the real world. But it was between Survivor and
Big Brother. And I always chose Big Brother because
it was better. But I had been watching Big Brother
off and on for years after it debuted in 2000.
I had stopped somewhere around 2016 or so. And
then I picked it back up in 2020, I think. Or
2019 when they did that season. And then I stopped
again and I haven't watched it since. But the
first five, six, or seven seasons from 2000 to
2007, that show was just so cool. I love Julie
Chen as the host. Just so great. One of the best
reality shows on television. So that's 2000.
That's the choice. Any remarks? I will save them
for my list. Okay. Although I did watch both
the early seasons of both of those. Big Brother
ends. Yeah. Very cool. Very cool. 2001 includes
non -choices. Mutant X. You remember Mutant X?
I remember it was based on a comic I didn't read.
Okay. House of Mouse. Dead center of Main Street.
It's Disney's House of Mouse. And don't forget
the Banshee Schmancy Costume Contest. Costume
Contest. I think this is one of only two times
I will pick a Power Rangers, I will have Power
Rangers series as mentions. Power Rangers Time
Force, MTV's attempt to get into soap operas,
Spider Games, S -P -Y -D -E -R Games, Alias,
Law and Order Criminal Intent, Smallville, 24,
And Justice League. That damn clock. That damn
click. Come on, Jack. Get to your damn mission
and hurry up and finish it. Swear to God, that
clock. Every time I heard that tick, tick, tick.
Okay, when's Jack Bauer going to explode? 24
was awesome, though. Mutant X I thought was interesting
because it was 2001 and it was after Lois and
Clark had ended and I'm like wait a minute what
is Lex Luthor doing back as a good guy because
John Shea plays Adam in Mutant X House of Mouse
is Disney cartoons but it was like here it's
Mickey and everybody at a club And they're showing
Disney cartoons to the people who are the cartoon
characters who are sitting at the club. But they're
actually showing them to us. So there's that.
Power Rangers Time Force. It's a future time
thing with Power Rangers. Alias. I shouldn't
have to explain Alias to the audience. Jennifer
Garner. What's his name? Oh, God. Bradley Cooper.
But the old guy. Oh, God. What was his name?
He plays the, oh God, her father. He plays Jack,
her father in this. Jack from Titanic. Yeah.
Anyway, love him. Smallville, you know, you too
will believe a man can drive a tractor and do
that at super speed. No, I liked Smallville for
what it was. I liked how they. did various things
with the lore of Superman. I liked how it seemed
that by the sixth season, I was like, okay, every
season after this, when are they going to be
done? By season seven, we brought in Laura Vander
Root as Supergirl. I was like, okay, cool. We
can be done now, right? And they drug it out
to 10 seasons, and then we finally saw a man
fly in jeans and a vest. I was like, okay. I
understand. He doesn't want to put the suit on.
I get it. He doesn't want the curse. Whatever.
Justice League, the animated series, just absolutely
awesome. Nothing to say about that. It's just
so good. We've done a... whole podcast series
on both justice league and justice league unlimited
here at the network called the secret origins
podcast we did that years ago the choice for
2001 though and it's a show that i go back to
very often and watch all the way through i think
i just did it last year again law and order criminal
intent look at all these these these cubicles
anyone passing by can see the screens But Colleen
moved her computer so she could have privacy.
Private chats at 7 a .m. Maybe she was doing
her acting on the Internet. After he was Thor
in 1987's Adventures in Babysitting, but before
he was the Kingpin, Vincent D 'Onofrio was Robert
Gorin. Detective Robert Gorin in Criminal Intent.
Ten seasons, multiple... Storylines, so good.
And this show basically focused on the criminal
element version of it instead of just criminal
court, criminal court. I can maybe count on one
hand how many actual court cases, I don't even
think they, maybe twice, you saw D .A. Carver
going into the courtroom. I don't remember a
lot of these episodes going into actual court
and actually seeing the... the order side of
the law, because most of it was the police side.
But this is where we would also get introduced
to, at least this is where I would get introduced
to her, Olivia Diabo, or Olivia Dabo, who would
do a voice in Justice League later. But she was
Nicole Wallace in this series. She was his white
whale in this one. Absolutely love Criminal Intent.
Any comments before we move on? I vaguely remember
it. I didn't stick with it. And didn't it go
through, like, it wasn't just D 'Onofrio. Didn't
they have Jeff Goldblum for a while? I think
they brought back Chris Knoth. Yeah, so Chris
Knoth came back. And so Law & Order Criminal
Intent ran from 2001 to 2011. And D 'Onofrio
went up to a certain point. At one point, Chris
Knoth and Annabella Skark, because Annabella
Skark either got introduced or she came back
or whatever. They then intermingled with the
D 'Onofrio and Catherine Irby episodes. And then
Goldblum came on for season nine because something
happened with contracts or whatever. And then
season 10, D 'Onofrio returned for the final
season. Yeah, but it's still a good show. It's
such a good show. Absolutely love it. I just
remember Olivia Dabo from Conan the Destroyer.
I see every detail To save the world? Do not
make me say those words. All right. In 2002,
we have Kim Possible. I came to this show very
late. I had only seen a few episodes to it when
I was 22 years old. But it stars Chris Carlson
Romano, who was on the Even Stevens show with
Disney. But it stars Batman. It stars Batman
Beyond. Will Friedle is the voice of Ron Stoppable.
And he always wanted the knocko. It also stars
Bart Simpson. Nancy Cartwright is the voice of
Rufus, his mole rat, his naked mole rat. Ron's
naked mole rat, Rufus. So there's that. Fastlane.
God damn it, Fox. You guys suck. Fastlane was
a short -lived show. Starring Vanessa, not Vanessa,
Valerie. Damn it, what's her damn name? Tiffany
Thiessen. Tiffany Amber Thiessen. Stars Bill
Bellamy and... peter fascinelli to stop a gang
of cop killers we've had 11 members of this department
gunned down in the last two weeks two undercover
cops will enter a world where every fantasy can
come true this place is heaven on earth and every
nightmare they are going to kill him we're going
to shoot our way out of here whatever you do
i'm under fire i need backup watch until the
very end basically another undercover cop procedural
type thing only lasted one season the cool thing
about this was this was a McG show and they tried
to do all kinds of music stuff and this is one
of those this is one of the early 2000s it was
kind of like 90s extreme but it was not really
it was like this is the 2000s we need to go hard
with the music with the cars with everything
And then there was the 2002 Mike Young Productions
Masters of the Universe cartoon. So there's that.
But the choice goes down to something that blew
my socks off. The debut of the FX Network in
2002 with Michael Chiklis as Vic Mackey and The
Shield. Well, thanks for your support. This show.
Oh, my God. The opening scene and the opening
chase, again, I know it's a police procedural,
but this is a police procedural like you've never
seen. FX was basic, not basic cable, but, you
know, it was cable. Okay, well, whatever. They
had the apartment. Yeah. This show basically
broke all the rules and did it on purpose. They
say shit without bleeping in the first 20 minutes
of this show. That opening chase, I think it's
when Vic pulls the drugs out of the guy's midsection.
And I'm not talking about his stomach. He basically
pulls it right out from under his balls. He's
like, holy shit, Vic, why you gotta do that?
Michael Chiklis' character says something, but...
The seven seasons of the shield, man, it just,
man, I just love that show. And again, it was
at a time where I was back in Massachusetts.
I had not lived in Massachusetts in years and
I just absolutely loved it. It was so, so good.
So awesome. Anything you'd like to say about
2002, sir? No, I never really watched the shield.
I remember Chiklis from The Commish, which was
a – it's interesting because he went from The
Commish, which was a cute, squishy TV show, to
The Shield. So that was pretty impressive. Yes,
yes. Became, you know, cuddly, fuzzy bear guy
to, like, murderous, dirty cop guy. Yeah. Which
I think speaks well of his abilities as an actor.
Absolutely. I think we've covered two. seasons
my buddy ryan and i have covered two seasons
of the shield on this podcast we covered them
a couple of years ago i want to get back to covering
more seasons of the shield at some point one
of these days so yeah all right moving on to
2003 uh extreme makeover home edition i never
cared about the original stream extreme makeover
but the home edition one with ty pennington i
thought was kind of cool because i never really
yeah trading spaces yep but yeah uh so there's
that ncis with mark harman debuted in 2003 wow
great yep very short -lived show uh only got
one season no no i've moved on from ncis uh because
ncis will come up later it was on forever yeah
no it's still on the air it's not yeah it's still
on today it's yep NCIS is awesome. NCIS was so
cool. I remember actually every year after it
aired and we got news of the DVD. I actually
had, I think, seasons one through six on DVD
released back then. It was so cool. I absolutely
love NCIS. I just like the goth chick. You just
like Abby, huh? Yeah. Yeah. All right. A very
short -lived show. It actually only got one season
on Fox with Eliza Dushku. True Calling. It was
with her and with Matt Bomer. It's a very, very
short show. It's a very interesting, cool show.
I don't know how else to describe it, but there's
that. they shouldn't actually be dead. By reliving
the past. What happened to her? Neighbors heard
a gunshot around 10. For true Davies, it's not
just a possibility. Help me. It's a calling.
She's alive. You're gonna die today, Rebecca.
What did you just say? You asked for my help.
Now I ask for your help? How could you know that?
How could you possibly know that? Just trust
me. I heard another voice. Let's see here. Other
TMNT 2003 came out that year. The new TMNT series
came out. Absolutely dug that show. Duck Dodgers
released in 2003. My favorite, Las Vegas with
the late, great James Caan. Also, Josh Duhamel
is in that. I actually have the complete series
DVD set in on my dresser in there. next to the
tv and all that love that show las vegas was
cool because it was one of those shows on nbc
where it was at a time where again in nbc in
2003 where shows networks were trying to figure
out how to do action again and what's better
than watching the uh security room at a las vegas
casino but no it was it was fun they had all
kinds of guest stars uh Magnum PI came in and
actually took over the casino and bought it at
one point so yeah love Las Vegas but the choice
and literally I literally just finished this
series like three days ago and restarted watching
it again CBS's starring Catherine Morris Tom
Berry's in it Jeremy Ratchford's in it what's
his name The guy who plays Danny Pino is in it.
Cold Case from CBS. The one about Lily Rush and
all them. Basically about the cold cases where
she figures them out and everything else. The
coolest thing about Cold Case is they're looking
into past murders and stuff like that, but it's
how they frame the story. And they frame the
story with music. And luckily, because HBO Max
owns the stuff, because it's Warner Brothers,
most, if not all, of the music is intact, thank
God. There is one episode of this show where
the entire episode is Bruce Springsteen songs.
Because that's how it's framed in the episode.
I just love that show. It's just awesome. So
cool. I saw a murder. And when did this happen?
1976. Are you saying we should open a 27 -year
-old case? Yeah. It's about your daughter. A
witness has come forward. Someone that was there
the night she died. From the producer of CSI.
What is this? A homicide investigation. On comes
the next great crime drama. Whatever you hid,
we're about to find it. Cold Case. CBS this fall.
Any remarks for 2003? I think my mom liked that
show. Yeah, it was a good show. Very good show.
2004, there really is only... Well, technically
there should be two choices here, but I only
mentioned these two shows just offhand. One is
called North... Oh, well. I didn't mention the
other show for 2003 that would have been a choice
if I didn't have Cold Case. Fox is welcome to
the OC, bitch. The OC from Fox that came out
that year from Josh Schwartz with what's his
name? Ben McKenzie. Peter Gallagher is also in
it. Anyway, 2004. North Shore was kind of like
the next big, supposed to be the next big thing
offshoot of the OC. That's the only reason why
I re -mentioned 2003. And then Pip My Ride or
Justice League Unlimited is the other not choices.
Justice League Unlimited, basically, it's Justice
League, but Justice League Unlimited, it's basically
the third, fourth, and fifth season of that show.
Man, when they went Unlimited, I... I like the
Justice League theme song, but that Unlimited
theme song is so much more action heavy. Just
absolutely love it. And just the end of that
series, how they end that. Five minute head start.
Five minute head start. You're getting old. You're
getting soft in your old age. Don't you have
a tall building to go leap? It's Batman to Superman
and vice versa. Like, uh. Just absolutely love
Justice League Unlimited. So many cool stories
were told in those final three seasons. They
did the once -in -the -future thing in those.
Oh, it's so good. Surprised to see me? A little.
I'm more surprised that I lived so long. Batman,
Bruce Wayne. Bruce Wayne, Batman. Or have you
met? Not now! Great. What did they used to call
it? Stereo? But the choice for 2004, again, the
only time I will mention, and the only time it's
actually a choice, is because Jason David Frank
returned to Power Rangers. Power Rangers Dino
Thunder. This can't be happening. Such negativity.
Haven't you learned that in our world anything's
possible? Even the destruction of the great Dr.
Tommy Oliver. I heard my name. You missed me,
didn't you, Zeltrax? Yes! All right! Awesome!
Right on! You made it! Hey, Dr. Rowe, what's
this? A black dino gem. Let me guess. The power
of invisibility. Looks like it. That gem belongs
to my master. There's two things you guys need
to learn about dino gems. One, you can't choose
them. They choose you. What's the other? They
go real well with dynomorphers. Aren't you a
little old for this, Tommy? I may be old, but
I can still pull it off. This show was like,
it's your standard Power Rangers show, but it's
because Tommy was back that it really made everything
more special. And the way they told the story
of him being back and him having to basically
be the teacher, even though he ended up being
a part of the team and he ended up being his
own Ranger as well. Just the way everything fell
out with that show, just absolutely loved it.
Any thoughts before we move on to 05? No. Okay.
Power Rangers came out the year after I graduated
college, so I've never had any connection with
it. No worries, no worries. 2005, there's a cartoon
and there's a live -action show. The cartoon
was Johnny Test, which stars the voices of Ian...
Ian Corlett and a bunch of other people I can't
remember off the top of my head. Ian Corlett
plays the dad. But Johnny Test is basically Johnny
and his dog Dookie are trying to make the best,
you know, do the best they can. And their sister,
his sister's kind of, you know, always have him
doing experiments. And he has this villain of
a neighbor, Eugene, and everything else and whatever.
But the choice is, and I can't believe. Thankfully,
out of all my life, one show that actually explained
math that I actually understand it. Starring
Judd Hirsch, Rob Morrow, and David Krumholz.
It's CBS's Numbers. Today's robbery, he should
be able to tell us where they're going to go
next. Charlie, did you hear what I said? I'm
just done. Thinking. Understand, this is an entirely
new problem now. The pattern I was working from
was a false pattern. No, no, not so much false
as incomplete. You were able to accurately predict
today's robbery. Right, but there's new factors
now. They aren't two unarmed guys. So the assumptions
we made about them... are invalid okay all right
look so you take the the new factors and you
make a new equation right it's not that easy
man it's not that easy because um there's something
else that has to be considered like what heisenberg's
uncertainty principle heisenberg noted that the
uh the act of observation will affect the observe
in other words when you watch something you change
it and uh For example, like an electron, you
know, you can't really measure it without bumping
into it in some small way. Any physical act of
observation requires interaction with a form
of energy, like light. And that will change the
nature of the electron, its path of travel. Hold
on, you know I got like a C in physics, so just
take me through how this relates to the case.
You've observed the robbers. They know it. That
will change their actions. Okay, so they changed
their MO, but we don't have to go back to square
one. I loved numbers. Because you have Rob Morrow's
character as Don as the FBI agent. You have Grumholz's
character as Charlie, who is the math professor,
and they have to work together. Not a lot of
TV shows did plots like that. Yes, you would
have FBI agents working with various, like...
people, but specifically brothers who have opposite
ends of things like that. He didn't have a lot
of that, so I absolutely love that. Just that
show ran for six years, six seasons. I think
if I remember correctly, it ended on a fairly
good note. I don't remember how well or... I
remember there were a few episodes where everything
was pretty harrowing, but it was a good little
action show. That's where I... That's where I
found that about Peter McNichol as an actor,
I think. Peter McNichol has done a lot of stuff.
Yes, he has. In that show, he plays an eccentric
professor named Larry. Very eccentric. Any thoughts
about 2005? Oh, is that your choice? Yeah, Numbers
is the choice. I never watched it. If you're
interested, you should. I'll see if I can find
it somewhere. 2006 is a game show and a reality
show, unfortunately. Dallas SWAT, because everything
back then was A &E SWAT. And Dallas SWAT was
the first one I watched. And then... 1 vs. 100.
I always thought the concept of 1 vs. 100 was
kind of funny and kind of cool. But... that first
reality yeah Dallas SWAT is the choice I don't
know what it was about that I just I don't know
if it's because I'd seen up to that point I was
26 yeah 26 years old I had seen so many actual
like fictional whatever I'm like oh let me look
at a and yeah we Yes, Cops is a real live -action
show about actual cops, but I think they overdid
that a little much. Like, that was a little...
I could be wrong, but in my mind, when I remember
watching episodes of Cops, that was a little
too much violence, I think. But I could be wrong.
But Dallas Swat was the first reality cop show
that I actively watched. uh in the early 2000s
thoughts uh 2006 was a rough year for me i almost
like didn't give it to anything really deep i
had to dig really deep to find a show that i
even watched yeah same here i was like having
trouble here uh 2007 we have three things here
we have the short -lived series only got six
episodes and only Oh, God, really? Yeah. I think
this series only two episodes aired and four
of them didn't or four aired and two didn't.
I forget. It was a Fox series called Drive. It
was about this mysterious road race and you had
to go to point to point to point to point to
point. Dylan Baker's in it. Amy, what's her name?
amy acker is in it a bunch of other people uh
but that was a short -lived show when prison
break ends the race begins secret illegal cross
-country road race first prize is 32 million
dollars 12 strangers you wanted fun well i think
things just got fun in the thrill ride of a lifetime
where everyone has a reason to win you're never
gonna find you like that if they ever Transformers
Animated debuted in 2007. And then the big one.
Phineas and Ferb debuted in 2007. That's the
choice. I know what we're doing today. Oh boy.
Phineas and Ferb. I love that show. Everything
about that show is so fun. So cool. You've got
one side with Phineas and Ferb and everything
they're doing with their inventions and basically
giving kids along with everybody else, you know,
positive reinforcement about let's make today
the best summer day ever. We can do anything
we put our minds to and everything else. And
on the opposite end, you have Dr. Doofenshmirtz
just trying to even have any of his innaters
function even before he tries to take down Perry
the Platypus. And like I said before, as always,
it always comes back to podcasting. My buddy
Michael and I, Michael Wilson and I, have been
doing the podcast organization without a cool
acronym. We've been doing that since 2016. So
almost 10 years. We're almost done. We just wrapped
up. I think I have to release Candace Against
the Universe, which is the second animated feature
film that they did. And then we have to start
new on the new season, season 5 that they just
released. So yeah. Phineas and Ferb for 2007.
The water's great. I liked Phineas and Ferb.
It was definitely a very strong contender for
my choice for this year. At the end, I kind of,
you know, I think towards the end of the show,
it started to get very repetitive, which was
also sort of the point. Like the joke was that
they were to repeat things. Yeah. You know, like
they had like lines like, you know, yes, yes,
it is. And, you know, what you doing and all
that stuff. But like, well. No, I'm just saying,
like, at the end of the day, it was like, I don't
know. I'm surprised they're bringing it back.
I mean, I'm not surprised they're bringing it
back because it's Disney and they'll milk everything
they have until there's nothing left. But I feel
like it ran its course at a certain point. And
then, like, Across the Second Dimension was probably
their... If it had ended there, it would have
been peak. Across the Second Dimension was brilliant.
The Doofenshmirtz that was actually competent.
Yep. And a bit about, you made a deliberate choice
to pee on my couch. Yep. And they find out about
Perry. That was great. And then I think the show
went on for a couple more seasons. And it's just
like, okay. Yeah. Let's build another thing.
And then Candace will try to bust us. And then
at the very end, it will go away. And usually
it goes away in a way that like forts Doofenshmirtz's
plan. And okay. It's a good show. I feel it may
be overstated to welcome a little bit. And there
was something else that I liked better. Okay.
Yeah, that's going to be your list. So the thing
with the second dimension, yeah, absolutely,
you're right. If it had ended there, it would
have been fine. They have an episode called Act
Your Age in the fourth season that technically
should have been the actual... Oh, is that the
one where they go to camp? And they get sent
to like a... No. Is one where they get sent to
a prison camp and they're forced not to imagine
anything? No, that's one where Phineas and Ferb
get busted. Yeah, that's Phineas and Ferb get
busted. That's from an earlier season. There's
one called Act Your Age where they go 10 years
in the future. Or they go X number of years in
the future and they're all grown up and they're
all graduating high school, going off to college,
and Phineas can't decide between tri -state,
state, or this, that, and the other thing, whatever
else. And Isabella's like, oh, I'm going to Tri
-State State and blah, blah, blah. But they're
all older and they're all this and they're all
that. And everybody kind of gets a happy ending.
You would think that they would have made that.
That's a finale, isn't it? It's not. It's not
the last episode that actually airs. It should
be, but it isn't. Because before they started
doing the fifth season, the finale is called
The Last Day of Summer. of the fourth season.
And they do this whole timey -wimey thing and
whatever. There's the one where Phineas kisses
Isabella. Isabella, and then Ferb drives off
with Vanessa. That's Act Your Age, yes. That
is Act Your Age. Because Ferb has taste. Yes,
exactly. But yeah, no. I don't know. It is what
it is. Alright, 2008. I'm not knocking because
like I said, it was a very strong second contender
for me. Yeah, absolutely. 2008 was rough for
me and I did not and have not decided between
these because one, I resisted this show for the
longest time because I just don't. I've already
covered this show on a different podcast years
ago, and I was fine with it, and I'm fine with
it now. But for years, years, I had resisted,
resisted, resisted. And it's not a show I've
ever gone back to since we recovered the show
on the other podcast. So I'm probably going to
pick the other choice that I have here. But 2008
was rough. I couldn't find anything that I'm
like, oh, my God, this is my favorite, or this
is this, or this is that. Cause it just didn't
like literally I thought, cause originally I
knew that Transformers animated head had it sort
of like early debut in 2007. And then I thought
the actual show didn't debut in 2008. So I thought
it was going to be listed in 2000. Anyway, my
two choices are breaking bad of the sweet life
on deck. Oh, my God. There was nothing else that
I saw in this year. Oh, my God. What the fuck
is wrong with me? I don't know. No, no, no. Stop,
stop, stop. I don't know how those two shows
can be mentioned in the same breath. No, no,
no. Stop it. I need to stop. I need to stop right
now because I don't know how I did not even think
of this. How did I not even think of it? Mike,
what the fuck is wrong with you? And now I need
to double check. Boy, I'm going to have a lot
of editing to do in this episode. Because how
did I not remember this? I am such a moron. Thank
God. Oh, is it better than Suite Life on Deck?
Oh, it has to be. Would anything be better than
Suite Life on Deck? It has to be. It has to be.
Oops, that's not what I needed to type. Come
on, phone. Do your job. Oh, thank God. Okay,
so there's a third choice, and that's the actual
choice. Okay, so for me, I've never seen Weeds.
My only aversion to Weeds and Breaking Bad is
they are television shows set around drugs, doing
drugs, or dealing drugs. I was a dare kid, drug
abuse, resistance education. I've never done
drugs my entire life. I have no interest in ever
doing drugs and I don't particularly care to
watch shows or movies. Like if it's in a movie,
fine, whatever I can deal with it, but I don't
want to have to watch a whole television show
about a drug dealer or about this or about that.
And I know that's base level, basic bitch bullshit.
Like get the fuck over it, watch the show and
enjoy it. Whatever. Fine. And I did, because
my buddy Ryan and I covered all five seasons
of Breaking Bad on our old TV podcast called
Remote Control. And I liked the show for what
it was. But it's not a show I would ever... Question
mark? What? Huh? Brilliant? Question mark? Masterpiece?
Question mark? Yes, absolutely. I'm not saying
it isn't... I mean, it's no Suite Life on deck,
but I mean, it was pretty good. Did I... Did
I ever say... Did I ever say... You used them
in the same breath. Just because I used them
in the same breath does not mean that I... They
should be on the same planet. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Whatever. Anyway. They debuted in the same year.
It's not my fault they debuted in the same year.
But I mean, just... Okay. What's your actual
choice? What's your actual choice? The Knight
Rider continuation series from NBC starring Justin
Brewing. And other people that starred in it
where you had, what's his name? William Fickner
as the voice of Kit. No, no, not William Fickner.
Damn it. Who the hell is the voice of Kit in
that show? No. Val Kilmer. God damn it. Really?
Yes. Let me just hang on a second. Give me a
minute here I'm giving you a direct order. Stand
down. I take orders from my creator, Dr. Charles
Greymon. Greymon is dead. I'm next in command.
You take orders from me. Your reasoning is correct.
You are, in fact, next in command. I do take
orders from you. Yes, in the 2008 Knight Rider
series, the voice of Kit was provided by the
late, great Val Kilmer. And that is the choice
for 2008, because when that show debuted, when
that was announced, I was like, because before
that, we had from 1995, Team Knight Rider. Nobody
wants to watch Team Knight Rider. Trust me, I've
done it for you, so you don't have to. That show
was horrible. It was just... I mean, if you hated
it, it must be bad. They took the Knight Rider
concept and put it into five different vehicles.
They basically tried to make Power Rangers. Oh,
it was like Voltron Knight Rider. Uh -huh, yeah.
Voltron, Power Rangers, Knight Rider. Yep, yep,
yep. The 2008 series only lasted one season because
it... It had a Ford Mustang, custom Ford Mustang
as the car. Ford put all the money into that
show. It only got one season. David Hasselhoff
did return as Michael Knight for one cameo at
the end. It was okay storytelling. The best part
of it, one good thing, is that Peter Cullen did
return as the voice of Carr. Because again, it
was meant to be a continuation of the 1982 series.
So they did try to tie it all back to whatever.
So you do have Peter Cullen as the voice of Carr
instead of Paul Freese because obviously Paul
Freese at the time had already been long gone.
So Peter Cullen did return as the voice. So you
have certain things from the original series
returning and things like that. But in general,
unfortunately, it wasn't that great. However,
because, you know, it's Knight Rider and it's
me and I really did enjoy most of that series.
Yeah, that's my pick for 2008. It's not award
-winning television, but it's my life and I'll
podcast if I want to. Good list, buddy. 2009,
runners -up. I cannot believe these two things
debuted in the same year, Pawn Stars and Shark
Tank. Two very opposite reality shows. As the
Hollywood producer said, Pawn Shop, over and
over again. And I corrected him, which is why
I'm still in Springfield. Yep. NCIS LA debuted
this year, which I love NCIS LA. I didn't even
know there was an LA one. Starring LL Cool J
and Robin himself, Chris O'Donnell. That's the
NCISLA. Iron Man Armored Adventures was a cartoon
series that debuted this year. But the choice
goes to White Collar from USA Network. Starring
Tim Decay, Matt Bomer, and more. Starring the
late, great Willie Garson. Willie Garson played
Mozzie on the show. the toughest case of your
FBI career, you call on the one man who can solve
it, even if that man lives here. I'll help you
catch him. Even if you're the one who put him
there. We're onto something here. So I won't
wait up. I've been released into the custody
of the FBI under your supervision. If you run,
you're back here for good. Meet world -class
con artist, white -collar thief, and flirt, Neil
Caffrey. To solve the hardest crime, it's a forgery.
hire the smartest criminal. Tiffany Thiessen,
Tim Decay, and Matt Bomer. White Collar, a new
original series coming this fall to USA. Characters
welcome. I think it's cute. I think it's adorable.
I'm putting you back in prison. It's basically,
again, this whole... Think of Dexter, but not
as horrifying as Dexter. It's white collar crime,
so Matt Bomer's character, Neil Caffrey, He is
a bond forger, and he also forges other art pieces
and things like that. He was convicted of bond
forgery. He gets released into the custody of
the FBI, and he gets to work cases with the FBI
to work off his sentence. It had six seasons.
It was supposed to have a reunion film that was
supposed to pay homage to the late, great Willie
Garson. I don't know if that's ever going to
happen. But I just absolutely love that show.
It's so good. Any thoughts on 2009, sir? Nope.
Never watched White Collar, or I think any of
the things you mentioned. All right. 2010. 2010,
we got Covert Affairs, Transformers Prime, Storage
Wars, and American Pickers. Are you sensing a
theme here at the end of some of these? This
is when the recession had hit. And a lot of reality
shows started becoming like, it had a second
wave of popularity. Yep. Yep. Covert affairs
was, um, what's her name? Um, Oh, um, she was
in Rocky and Bullwinkle. No, not, not the cartoon,
the live action version. Sally Struthers or Sally
Coleman? No, no, no, no, no. Um, Does it matter?
Piper Parabo. That's who it is. It's Piper Parabo
and a bunch of other people, but it's basically,
it's another one of those covert affairs, CIA,
this, that, and everything else. Transformers
Prime was the CGI 2010 series that they did after
Transformers animated. Everybody should know
what Storage Wars is. Yep. I was kind of hoping
not to have to. Are you going to pick American
Pickers? No. Hey man, look, that show was pretty
cool and made Frank rest in peace. Because Frank's
no longer with us. But the choice is something
I haven't even mentioned yet. It is a Law & Order
And NCIS actresses come together into one show.
It's Angie Harmon and what's her name? I don't
know. It's Angie Harmon and Sasha Alexander as
Rizzoli and Isles on TNT. So Sasha Alexander
played Kate Todd in the first number of seasons
of NCIS. And Angie Harmon was Abby Carmichael
on Law & Order in whichever seasons of Law &
Order she was on. She was under Jack McCoy. She
was one of the ADAs under Jack McCoy for the
longest time. Rizzoli and Isles is basically,
again, it's another one of those, I think they
even say this in the series. Originally, this
was a series of books that became a television
show. I forget. I think it's Janet something
that wrote the books. I don't have the information
in front of me. Ivanovich? No, it wasn't Janet
Ivanovich. I would have said that immediately.
But it's basically a cop meets medical examiner
kind of thing. They kind of have a Kate and Allie
kind of vibe. It's back and forth, back and forth.
Lee Thompson Young is on the show up until he
would tragically pass away. He plays Detective
Barry Frost. Bruce McGill is on the show as a
senior detective. Yeah, no, I just, this show
is just so cool. It's just so fun because it's
like two very differently. Angie Hart. Jane's
character, who is Angie Harmon, and Maura's character,
who is Sasha Alexander. Maura is more prim and
proper, and Jane is more brash. The original
are a couple. Kind of, yeah. But the other thing,
for me, the reason why it's my favorite, set
in Boston. Anytime you set anything in Boston,
as long as I've seen it and as long as I have
an attachment to it, it gets the win. But, no,
literally, I love watching this show. And, again,
like I said, with Lee Thompson Young playing
Detective Barry Frost, this would be his last
role. Before this, I had seen him on Disney Channel
as Jet Jackson. He was the famous Jet Jackson
on the Disney Channel. So, yeah, that's the choice
for 2010. Any comments? I never said anything
in North Carolina. Okay. Funny. You mentioned
that. I'm sure they do, but I'm just saying,
if they said anything in Boston, I'm like, well,
they never said anything in North Carolina, and
I hate Illinois. Okay. It's funny you mention
that, and I know you're not going to go back
and watch. I don't even think you can go back
and watch this because I don't think it's on
anywhere anymore, unfortunately. But I mentioned
where I saw Lee Thompson Young originally on
the famous Jet Jackson on the Disney Channel.
that show is basically him becoming a movie star
and moving from north carolina to la so it's
set in la it's set in la but they go back to
north carolina every now and then because he
goes home every time whatever because they fly
back and forth so anyway 2011 this is where oh
boy so we have Three reality shows, we have four
or five, yeah, four or five different action
shows here. So the reality shows The Voice, Bar
Rescue, and Homicide Hunter. Yes, Bar Rescue
with Jon Taffer. Love that show. The Voice, Bar
Rescue, and Homicide Hunter, Lieutenant Jokenda
all debuted this year. The very short -lived,
I don't even think it got a full season pickup,
but The Playboy Club on NBC debuted this year.
Person of Interest with Jim Caviezel and Michael
Emerson was on CBS. Ringer was on WB or CW or
whatever it is. That was with Sarah Michelle
Gellar and somebody else. I forget off the top
of my head. I think Mr. Fantastic from the Fantastic
Four at the time. Ian Griffith, or maybe that's
something else. I forget. Unforgettable with
Poppy Montgomery on CBS. And then what's her
name? Oh, God. Emily something. Not Van Cam.
Is this your pick? No. Then move on. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. Revenge debuted on ABC that year. The pick
is the reality show Homicide Hunter, Lieutenant
Joe Kenda. There is no such thing as a perfect
murder. A murder is anything but perfect. A murder
is messy. A murderer always leaves something
behind. If you kill, I will find you. Homicide
Hunter, all new Tuesday at 9, only on Investigation
Discovery. By this time in, when this debuted
on Investigation Discovery, I was full in on
Investigation Discovery. I was full in on Investigation
Discovery for about a year by this time this
debuted. This is about a cop who was in the city
of Colorado Springs from 73 to 96. So for about
those 20 or so years, he was a policeman who
moved up in the ranks of the Colorado Springs
Police Department. And I just like his story.
I just like hearing the guy. I have his audio
books. It was just a good thing. 2012. I mentioned
this to you in our tech crew. I'm like, 2012
is going to have an interesting runner -up. Toy
Hunter debuted in 2012 on the Travel Channel.
Ugh. Starting March 7th on OLN. I just touched
a $17 ,000 toy. These might be toys, but this
is no game. If this was in the package, I'd be
paying you $1 ,000, $2 ,000 for one. Are you
serious? Join host Jordan Hembrough as he scours
the U .S. in search of toy gold. To play with
these toys, you have to be a player. Transformer
fan, right? This is a cool toy. Toy Hunter. Thursdays
at 9 starting March 7th on OLN. I will say that
I personally know David Gall and he's a good
guy. I like him. But I do not like that show.
It also cost me $1 ,000. You also had TMNT 2012,
the 2012 series for TMNT debuting on Nickelodeon.
I believe you had Arrow, which is the start of
the Arrowverse from the CW in that year. But
the choice has to go to the Dallas continuation
on TNT. Unfortunately, Steve Megatron would say,
oh, it's not going to last after like the third
season and it did eventually get canceled. But
I was honestly surprised Larry Hagman was still.
alive and available to even play the role, but
they updated. They did a continuation. Bard alumni.
I went to Bard College and he's an alumni. Oh,
very cool. I believe so. Very cool. They did
good updatings with the cast for the kids, for
the kids for JR and Christopher. Patrick Duffy
returned as Bobby. But there's a play to be made
with the woman at the DCT. We can fix this. Well,
I'm glad to hear that. Well, don't you worry,
son. I've got a plan. It's gonna be my masterpiece.
Because you shouldn't have to pay for my sins.
What do you mean? Just remember, I'm proud of
you. You're my son. From tip to tail. Thank you,
Daddy. That means a whole lot for me to hear
you say that. J .R.? Hello? Dad! Dad! Dad? And
there were just a few great episodes, and the
story they told with JR's return and everything,
it was just a fun little short -lived three -season
revival. Well, it seemed like he was doing really
well, and then he died. Yeah. Yeah, he passed
away. 2013 was a rough year. 2013 is basically
it's either murder or house hunting. So you either
got red rum you got red rum on Investigation
Discovery which the cool thing about this show
is it's your traditional murder investigation
show but they do it like like from the backwards
like they do this fast forward rewind thing where
they should they start you out at a certain point
and then they keep going back and going back
and then they fast forward back to where you
are now it was really that's why it's murder
backwards uh and then flip or flop was at the
time before they went through all their divorces
and separations or whatever it was tarik and
christina whatever their last name is it was
Yeah, but I'll go with the murder show for 2013
because I had never seen a reality, a true crime
show do the presentation like that. 2014 features
Girl Meets World, Married at First Sight slash
Married at First Sight the first year, Red Band
Society, Scorpion, The Flash, Wahlburgers, and
The 7D. So my mom was always a huge fan of 1937's
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. I've known a
few other people who have been a huge fan of
the original first Disney animated film. I have
a very close friend whose mother was also a huge
fan of the original, which is why she's now,
which is why my friend is a huge Disney girl,
or was. Was before Disney decided to destroy
their legacy, but yes, I know someone who has
a big attachment to the original Snow White and
the Seven Dwarfs. Yes. I don't have such a big
attachment to the original. I like it. It's okay.
Never seen it. Okay. I think I've seen it maybe
twice since 1990, twice in the last 30 years.
That's yeah. Yeah. And before that, I think I
maybe seen it once or twice when I was a kid.
However, the choice is, I mean, first of all,
Wahlburgers, say what you will about Mark Wahlberg
and all that and whatever. He's a carbon -based
life form who exists. Yes, but what I liked about
Wahlburgers as a reality show is you're showing
me the restaurant that the brother, Paul, runs.
I mean, technically they all run it, but it's
showing it from the point of the chef. You know,
that point. And you have Mark and Donnie and
everybody kind of come in and out and whatever.
But it's supposed to be from the point of Paul,
you know, kind of thing. And that's what I liked
about that. And obviously it's Boston. However,
that's not even the choice. The choice is because
it was so different. And thank God they removed
Snow White and all the baggage. You've got Maurice
LaMarche as Grumpy. You've got Stephen Stanton
as Sneezy. You've got Kevin Michael Richardson.
You've got the 7D from Disney. The first time
I've ever absolutely loved anything from the
Snow White franchise, because I will say it is
a franchise, because they constantly reboot the
damn film. But the 7D cartoon, it only got two
seasons, but the adventures that the seven dwarfs
go on and the comedy. You got Billy West is Bashful.
Oh my God, it's hilarious. It's so funny. I absolutely
love it. I'll slow her down, fellas. You get
Sunny to the horizon and save the breakfast brouhaha.
You want help? What about your dream breakfast?
You might miss it. Hey, I care about you more
than any old egg sandwich. Oh, grumpy. Don't
go there. I'm on the verge. See you in January.
It is so funny. Thoughts, 2014? We have a Wahlburger
at the Hy -Vee. I ate there once. Yep. Oh, yeah.
We have, well, we had, since I'm not living there
anymore. I'm not 100 % sure we still have it.
It's been a while. Yeah. We, since, where is
that photo? I meant to send this to you. Did
I send that photo to you? You did send it to
me. Okay, yeah, I did. Okay. I sent you a photo
from, I think, 2018, or no, it was 2019, right
before Karen, my late wife, went out to Right
before we went out to Washington State, we went
to Wal -Marters down in Chicago. First time I'd
ever been there, obviously. So that was fun.
But yeah, no. Very, very cool. None of anybody
was there. It was just a regular restaurant.
Like, Paul wasn't there. Donnie wasn't. Nobody
was there that day. But yeah. 2015. I put this
on the list just because I've interviewed one
of the people that, and I kind of like the premise
of it a little bit, even though it's very childish.
But a buddy of mine who used to do a bunch of
podcasts that I used to listen to, he's also
a voice actor, got to do a couple of voices on
this show. Ever After High, it's an animated
series where all of the fairytale people go to
high school. So it's a Snow White, it's a Cinderella,
it's a this, but they're all in high school.
He got to do the narrator voice character thing.
Joe Sanfilippo is his name, and Joe's an awesome
dude. I was hoping to catch up with him one of
these years. That's not the choice, though, but
just wanted to mention that. 2015 also had debuts
for Netflix's Daredevil. There was a series called
Humans on AMC, which is a really interesting
show. And then DC had Supergirl debut in 2015
on CBS. The choice goes to Daredevil because
it blew me away. When I was a kid, I used to
dream what it would be like to live somewhere
far away from Hell's Kitchen. But I realized
the city was a part of me. It was in my blood.
And I would do anything to make it a better place.
Good and evil. Sometimes the difference between
the two is a sharp line. Sometimes it's a blur.
Sometimes you have to do things outside of the
law. We're gonna make a difference. I know it
doesn't feel like it sometimes, but we are. You're
blind, but you see so much. I hear things. You
know what they call stuff like that? Gifts. I'm
gonna train you. Use it. There are other ways
to see. I don't see the city anymore. There's
only dark corners. I'll keep you safe, Karen.
I have to be the man this city needs. What are
you gonna do? Whatever it takes. This darkness
is the light. I'm just trying to make my city
a better place. Maybe if he had an iron suit
or a magic hammer, that would explain why you
keep getting your asses handed to you. Vincent
D 'Onofrio. I said in the movie show, 2003 Daredevil
with Michael Clarke Duncan. At the time in 2003,
there was nobody that could have played that
role. Here we are 12 years later in 2015 with
TV, with Vincent D 'Onofrio as the kingpin. Hands
down, best kingpin. I mean, Michael Clarke Duncan,
amazing. Simply amazing for what the time was
and everything else. Well, John Rhys -Davies
was also good in Battle of the Incredible Hulk.
Huh? Sala. John Rhys -Davies. Sala was the kingpin
in Trial of the Incredible Hulk. What the hell
is the Trial of the Incredible Hulk? It was the
TV movie. In the 80s, they were trying to bring
back the Hulk. They had Thor in one of the episodes
and they had Trial of the Incredible Hulk. It
was Daredevil. He wore the black stocking costume
and John Rhys -Davies was the kingpin. He escaped
in a little tiny... little G .I. Joe hovercraft
thing at the end. It was not good. I'm just saying,
he played the kingpin. Cool. You were talking
about all the class kings? I agree, Denafrius
is the best kingpin. He was my favorite thing.
First of all, I breathed the heavy sigh of relief
when you picked Daredevil. I do think the first
season of Supergirl, actually the CBS season,
went ahead of budget. was actually surprisingly
good, but I think Calista Flockhart was actually
pretty good in that show. But Daredevil was just
at the time of Revelation. I think it blew everybody
away. And D 'Onofrio was brilliant as the Kingpin.
I think it was season two, episode seven or eight,
I forget. Oh, the one in the prison? No, no,
no. Oh, the prison one's so good. That's when
he becomes the Kingpin. He's just Wilson Fitz
in the first season. And then in season two,
there's the Punisher story, there's the episode
in prison, and then there's the Elektra story.
And the episode in prison is when he becomes
the Kingpin. And it is so good. It had to have
been the second season. Maybe it was the first
season. I don't know. This is something so trivial
and so stupid to me, but at one point... OK,
you know how most of these things will hit like
if you're in the Eastern time zone, it'll hit
it like at least back in those days on Netflix,
it would hit like 3 a .m. and midnight Pacific
time kind of thing. And if you're 3 a .m. on
the Eastern time zone and you can't sleep because
of your insomnia or whatever, you oh, I can watch
it. And generally you're like, OK, fine, I'm
going to make sure I don't say anything. I'll
make sure I don't say anything. Oh, hey, I like
this piece of filming. So, I was up. I was like,
I don't know, eight or so episodes into whatever.
Like, I don't even remember the... That's why
I said I thought it was season two. Whatever
the staircase scene is, that's why I think it's
the second season. I think there's a staircase
scene in every season. Okay, fine. Because it
became a thing. Yeah. No, it was a hallway. I
think it was hallway in season one. There was
the, the stairway I think was when a Punisher
like provokes an attack. Okay. Yeah. This was
like when it, I don't know. All is I remember
is there was a stairway scene where daredevil
was flipping around and swinging around and doing
all kinds of stuff in the stairwell. All is I
said on Twitter at the time was, wow. Is this
stairway scene in Daredevil an awesome piece
of filmmaking? All of a sudden, this dude that
I had known for, I don't know, at least the last
seven years, and I had done a bunch of stuff.
Oh, my God, we can't be friends anymore. You
spoiled the hell out of the show. What is spoiling?
Anything about the plot of the show where I say
this is a great piece of filmmaking? Apparently,
you told people there was a stairwell. Yeah,
like, get the fuck over with. I mean, you know,
I don't go into a show expecting to see a stairwell.
Thanks a lot. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I have a very
dear friend who also is hyper -spoiler -phobic.
Yeah. I kind of get it. Yeah. I mean, I get it,
but, like, come on. I'm with you on this. I'm
being facetious. I know you are. Oh, no, a stairwell?
Yeah, I know. I just thought they all took elevators
everywhere. Thanks for ruining the show for me.
Elevator go down the hole. No, no. It was Ducky
go down the hole. Paper go down the hole. Paper
don't come back. Paper don't come back. Alright,
2016. 2016. Well, we had Lethal Weapon with Damon
Wayans and Clay Crawford. So there was that.
They tried to reboot Lethal Weapon as a TV series.
It was okay. It wasn't bad. It was okay. It wasn't
great, but it was middle ground. Then there was
Justice League Action. This was a show... I haven't
even watched all of these cartoon episodes for
this, but there's one scene that I watch over
and over in my head, and I watch it online. It's
the interrogation scene where Superman and Batman
are interrogating dead shot and Superman is playing
the bad cop and Batman is playing the good cop.
Oh my God. It's so hilarious. I'll probably drop
the audio in here somewhere. All right, dead
shot. We need a name and we want it right now.
Oh, whoops. A little too hard. Sorry, Batman.
I'll, I mean, That's nothing compared to what
I'm about to do to you, Deadshot. If I don't
get what I want, now. What? You'd better watch
yourself with my partner here. Any little thing
can set him off. Superman, we talking about the
same guy here. Why don't you step out, Batman?
I want to have a little private talk with Deadshot
here. Let's put a little light on the subject.
Oh, sorry. Too bright? I mean, that's nothing
compared to my heat vision, which would really
do some serious damage. So, talk. You gotta be
kidding me. Coffee. Don't do that. I thought
you might like coffee. It's good. Why are you
showing me your teeth? What is that? You're gonna
need that coffee after I get through with you.
Donut. Get that away from me. Is it poison? It's
chocolate. I'll talk, I'll talk. I'll tell you
everything. It's Superman voiced by somebody,
but it's Batman voiced by Kevin Conroy, and it's
Christian Slater voiced by Voices Deadshot. So
hilarious. So funny. But the choice goes to a
very, very short -lived series called The Catch.
This was on ABC. I think it only got one season.
This is one of those shows where it's a mystery
gotcha novel kind of thing where It's a spy type
of series and they run an information thing that
like this woman, they run this kind of agency
and they're supposed to be doing this. They're
supposed to be doing that, but she actually ends
up getting duped by her, her. partners friends
uncles cousins dog or something or it's a really
cool fun spy show and i just i absolutely caught
this in late 2016 after i got duped over a couple
of things and i was like oh this is fun i'd rather
watch this thing go through what i went through
you're a cop private investigator In the last
nine months, this Mr. X has stolen $5 million
from two of our biggest clients. We don't know
who he is. We don't know what he looks like.
Let's catch this guy. L .A.'s top P .I. is in
hot pursuit of a world -class con man. He's gone.
We lost him. He's always one step ahead of us.
There's only one catch. I'm sorry, babe. I'm
sure you're closer than you think. He is the
love of her life. Honey, please, let me see.
What do you think? I think you should take it
off. See you tonight. Bye. He's gone. Christopher
is gone. He took my entire life savings. You
took everything? Everything. Why would a con
artist target a private investigator? That's
how he stayed one step ahead of us the whole
time. Christopher is Mr. X. I'll find him. Wanna
play? Let's play. The Catch, series premiere
Thursday, March 24th on ABC. So there's that.
So that's 2016. Any questions? Nope. All right.
2017. Only two options. There is what I chose
and what I didn't choose. Now, I enjoy this,
but I didn't choose this because I don't go back
and rewatch this. But 2017, The Toys That Made
Us debuted that year. Very awesome. Very interesting.
Very cool. Absolutely love seeing the history
of The Toys That Made Us. To a lesser, not necessarily
lesser extent, but to a, you know, more extent
later, we have the movies that made us, et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera. Also that year that debuted
again, one season. APB debuted on Fox. APB is
another cop drama thing. We enhanced the torque
on the engine. So when you guys accelerate, you're
going to want to hang on. Enhance. How much we
talking? About 350 foot pounds, zero to 60 in
two seconds. You're basically going to be the
fastest things on the road. All right. So, uh,
what happens when we catch up to the guy? The
idea is to deploy a spike strip. That's what
I'm working on right now. Hey, uh, I know this
may sound weird, but, um, have I seen you before?
Follow wrestling? Holy hell. You're Blockhead.
I'm sorry, who? The only pro wrestler to get
the U .S. Intercontinental and the Tag Team belt
at the same time. Welcome to the Block Party.
Yeah! After a career breaking chairs over people's
heads, Pete got a PhD in electrical engineering
from Georgia Tech. Came to work for me. And it
was Chicago. It was what if Chicago had this
billionaire named Gideon Reeves that came into
the 13th district of Chicago that cleaned it
up and the mayor is against him and everybody
else is against him. But this cop, Teresa actually
wants to give him a chance. And, and it was just
a fun little 12 episode show, unfortunately.
But when I got out of that was a bunch of cool
songs and a bunch of cool tech and just a lot
of fun that year. 2018 is a show... 2017 was
APB? Yeah, APB. Yep. 2018, there's only one choice,
no runners -up. It was an NBC show called Reverie.
negotiation. I want you to go inside Reverie
and bring them back. This is the brain computer
interface that runs the program. It's the only
one like it in the world. You have to undergo
the implant procedure. I designed the boundaries
of reality within the program. The science of
creating dreams. I'm going to give you a crash
course. Just enough to make you dangerous. Shall
we begin? So, I can do anything I want? Physical
laws don't necessarily apply in reverie. You'll
learn to deprogram your fear response. She picked
it up faster than we did, and we built it. This
is a chance to bring families back together again.
I promise I'm gonna do everything I can to bring
your dad back. We have no idea what's gonna happen
when we put a second person inside someone's
reverie. If you stay here any longer, you will
never come back. I have only been here a couple
days. You've been here for weeks. There are significant
anomalies. This I actually have to look up myself.
I remember it, but I have to look it up to give
you the actual details. So this was science fiction
drama television series in only, oh, another
first season, 10 episodes. Hostage negotiator
Mara Kent. An expert in human behavior takes
a job saving people who are lost in advanced
virtual reality simulation. Reverie is in the
process. She begins to work through a personal
tragedy in her own past. The cast here is Dennis
Haysbert, Jessica Lau, and Catherine Morris from
Cold Cases in it. starring Sarah Shahi, who was
also in Person of Interest. She was Shaw in Person
of Interest. Other than the virtual reality storyline
thing, that was the main reason that I liked
this show at the time, and I still like this
show now, was that she was starring in it because
I remembered her from Person of Interest. 2019
is The Movies That Made Us. I just listed this
instead of listing all the, there's like three
different ones, but I've been watching HGTV for
decades now. And in 2019, they did a lot of like,
instead of the house touring, instead of house
hunters, whatever else, and home makeover stuff,
they did do, they still do that. But in 2019,
they did a lot of pool, they did like four different
pool, I just said all the pool shows. any pool
makeover shows i was like that is so cool i absolutely
love that but the choice comes down to once again
scooby -doo and guess who oh i have no idea so
scooby -doo and guess who was a show that lasted
for i think two or three seasons oh yeah it was
based off the old 70s one where they would yes
it was it was it was based off of uh scooby -doo
mysteries or um Like Don Knotts and Mama Cass
and Batman and Robin. Yep, yep, yep. Absolutely.
Yep. Basically that same thing. Again, one of
the episodes, Batman came back, and again, it
was Kevin Conroy as Batman. Just, I thought it
was so cool. They had Wanda Sykes on this episode,
on this series. They had a whole bunch of stuff.
It was basically just a heist. Not basically,
Sweater Girl. It was going to be one of the biggest
heists of all time. Technically, it was a kidnapping.
As I was saying... Before being so rudely interrupted,
I won't mention any names. Cough, cough. Batman.
Cough, cough. I need a lot of money to fund all
my great escapades and capers. I brought Alfred
here to help me access Bruce Wayne's bank accounts.
He just needed a little persuasion. 2020 was
kind of rough, in case you didn't notice, folks.
But Transformers War for... Yeah, 2020 was rough.
2020 was rough. Nah, it was a breeze. No, it
wasn't. It was great. You're lying. You're lying
to yourself and you're lying to us. But Transformers
War for Cybertron. It was the first Netflix series
of three in the War for Cybertron trilogy. I
have done what I have to do. I really dug it.
I wish they would have done a little bit more.
I wish they would have done a little bit more
as far as episode count and time length. Time
length, I guess, was okay. I think there were
20 -minute episodes. There were only six episodes
each. I don't know what Hasbro and Netflix agreed
to, but War for Cybertron... earthrise and kingdom
each of the series got six you got 18 episodes
for these three series total that's like one
season of generation one i'm sitting here thinking
come on and i get it netflix has that model now
of here let's give you micro doses i don't want
micro doses i want all of it i want everything
but it is what it is 2021 had the debuts of Superman
and Lois, as well as the animated What If? And
the choice goes to Marvel, goes to What If? I
am the Watcher. I am your guide through these
vast new realities. Follow me and ponder the
question, What If? I have not seen the third
season yet, but I did watch the first two seasons.
We did do two podcasts or a number of podcasts
on the first two seasons of What If. I loved
What If. I remember reading the comics for What
If way back in the day as a kid. But what I love
about this What If is it's Jeffrey Wright as
the voice of the Watcher. And it basically takes
the Marvel Cinematic Universe stuff and basically
puts it on its head. and does all kinds of timey
-wimey stuff with it and by like the i think
the sixth or seventh or whatever episode of the
second season it turns it into a full -on story
narrative where it's i think it was the first
season i had the whole ultron super ultron thing
yeah yeah that's what it is it's the first season
it's the first season then but yeah no i absolutely
loved loved uh what if for 2021 what if 2022
is something I only saw recently in the last
couple of years. By definition. Yes, by definition.
Second season we just finished up, which you
find people would have probably already heard
the podcast because by now I probably would have
edited them and had them online. But as of now,
I don't have them edited or have them online.
But a little known Star Wars show by the name
of Andor. I have friends everywhere. Okay. Interesting
choice. Yeah, no. Well, again, looking at the
2022 list, I'm like, what was I actively watching
in 2022 and what have I seen since then from
2022? And I'm like, yeah, Andor's the only option
that I can actively choose that I can say that
I actively watched from that year. Because in
2022... Cause you have to remember, you don't
have to remember. I'll remind people in November
of 2021, Karen died from November of 2021 to
June of 2022. I had to basically find a whole
new way of life. I had to move from Washington
state to Indiana. Kind of don't have time to
watch TV in 2022. Like don't have time at all.
uh and most of my time wasn't doing any like
i did some podcasting in 2022 but not a lot not
until i got settled here so like yeah i wasn't
really watching or paying attention to anything
so going back now and being able to list that
as my 2022 choice now that i've seen all of andor
at this point yeah no and andor is very very
awesome i hope Fingers crossed we get a third
season, maybe, hopefully. I don't know. You're
joking. I said maybe, hopefully. Boy, I hate
to spoil this for you, but... Yeah, I know, but
they could still... They could still what? I
suppose Dave Filoni could have somebody go through
the fucking eye of whatever and pull Andor off
of Scarif. Through time travel, because he did
that for his waifu. Did they show him on Scarif
at the end of Season 2? No, he was on his way
to the thing at the beginning of Rogue One. Right.
But at the end of Season 2 of the series, where
is Andor? He's literally on the U -Wing on the
way to the big space thing that he meets the
guy and shoots him. Yeah. Wait. That shoots Andor?
No, Andor shoots that guy. Yeah, Andor shoots...
There's still plenty of time between... There
is not plenty of time. It's television. They
can make all the time they want, Dave. Number
one, that's the worst nerd impulse is, I want
more. No, this is perfect. This is perfect. Leave
it alone. That's fine. Make something new. How
crazy would it be if we got something new? I
don't want something new. I want more of the
same but different. Look, I've been screaming
for new shit for like the last decade. And every
time they try, they fuck it up and they do something
wrong and they go back to the same old shit that
they've been doing for the last 70 years. So
what do you want from me? I don't know. 2023,
the Night Court reboot or continuation, whatever
you want to call it, since technically she plays
his daughter, and then Ahsoka. The choice is
Ahsoka, because I've only technically seen one
episode of Night Court, and that was when Howard
returned as a different character, but it was
still her husband. You know what? Okay. There
are years where I didn't watch much and had to
pick something that I didn't like either. Okay.
And again... I will recognize Missouri before
I say Ahsoka is my favorite anything. Look! Oh,
shut up. Stupid Ezra. Back in time. Because Dave
Filoni has a pillow on him. I'm going too far.
I've gone too far. He's a married man. I'm sure
he's very happily married. A human woman and
not a Japanese pillow that looks like a Sogotano.
2024. So it was all thanks to Stephen Colbert
that I got introduced to Taylor Tomlinson and
then I went down the rabbit hole of watching
her. Netflix comedy specials and other stuff
and then she got her own late late late late
show with after midnight because she replaced
somebody on that and after midnight was a cool
like it was a late show but it was a late show
where it was a game show combined with an interview
show that was kind of cool however that's not
the 2024 show choice because folks like i've
said in the last couple years i haven't watched
a lot of tv so the choices are kind of getting
slimmer and slimmer here but 2024 also had ncis
origins this is the story that gibbs never tells
oh my god we finally see gibbs's origin or part
of it kind of sorta but we see gibbs as a probie
holy crap i was like wow this is great because
again i've seen like six seven or eight seasons
out of like the 20 seasons that ncis 20 or so
seasons ncis has and yeah like ncis origins that
first season of it or the first i think it has
one or two seasons i don't remember off the top
of my head But just absolutely dug it. I thought
it was cool. I thought they did a great job of
doing the whole thing of, yeah, it only has one
season, 18 episodes. I thought it was really
great how they recast, not recast, but they cast
the younger person as Gibbs and they worked on
all the stuff. And yeah, I was like, oh my God.
that was one where I was like okay you have to
do a second season to give us more because they
left it on plenty of like he still has plenty
of stories they can tell so alright folks editor
TFG1 Mike here and NCIS Origins does have two
seasons as of the recording of this podcast it
only had one season when I just mentioned it
just now but As of the publication of this podcast,
NCIS Origins has two seasons under its belt.
Now back to the show. How'd your boy do out there?
If he is not up to snuff, cut him loose. Can't
got to worry about kids. He failed his psych
eval. That is the definition of crazy. If my
wife and daughter were murdered, I would be crazy
too. The newly minted Special Agent Gibbs. Ready
to catch some bad guys? Welcome to the Nethouse,
sweetie. If you need anything, I'm here. At ease,
Marine. I'm your commanding officer. I'm just
your boss. Yes, sir. Gear up. Where's my gear?
No matter how hard you try or how far you go.
Watch your step, Marine. You're on my squad?
Nope, you're on mine. You can't ever leave it
all behind. They kept me up. A voice. A scream.
The kind you feel instead of hear. My gut. You
get a gut feeling, you share it with the crew.
There is no such thing as a clean slate. You're
a Navy Cobb now? You're not built for that, son.
always with you. The stories you've told. The
ones you never could. Good work, Broby. This
is a story I don't tell. NCIS Origins premieres
CBS Monday, October 14th. Part of CBS Premier
Week and streaming on Paramount+. Is the goth
chick in it? No. Abby is not there yet. Stop
it! Oh my god, he's a probie. She's probably
not even born yet. Well, she could go through
the well of whatever and go back in time. We
could do time travel and everything. Why not?
Well, yeah, that's the thing. So that's 2024.
And like I've said multiple times, folks, I don't
watch current TV, so when this popped up, and
I'm only mentioning this, we're not really picking
from 2025. Yeah, we are. Okay, fine. We are.
I'm picking for 2025. I can't imagine liking
anything better than my 2025 pick this year.
I can't imagine watching TV again in 2025. Okay.
To be fair. To be fair. There's one movie left
that I might actually like in 2025. Being a little
bit of a nerd about like, well, I don't know.
There could be another movie. But like TV shows,
there's absolutely like zero chance. Yeah, same
here. Yeah, that's why we're including 2025 in
the TV version, not in the movie version. 2025,
it all comes back down to Boston. It all comes
back down to the home city because of HBO Max,
I think it was. Yeah, HBO Max released their
documentary. Similar to what they did, I think,
in 2018 or 2019 with The Last Dance, because
I watched that one too. Celtics City, all about
the Celtics. The 2024 Boston Celtics are one
of the greatest teams in NBA history. We did
it! I come to work out of respect for what people
have laid here before. Red Auerbach used to say
it best. Celtic pride. That's what it's all about.
The greatest in the game, Larry Bird. First game,
a Boston player walks up to me and says, don't
look up. All these retired numbers, championship
banners. I just thought this was normal. And
then you go to other arenas and quickly realize
it's not the same. I look at that little leprechaun,
and sometimes I just want to spit in his face.
The Boston Celtics bring out the worst in everybody
else. We've got a melee here in the garden. That
was the classic. Just a classic. Larry Bird carried
the city on his back, and for a lot of people,
he was going to be the savior one way or the
other. 30 teams in the league, but how many got
things that last forever? The Boston Celtics
have to be central to the city of Boston, and
the players who play for the Celtics have to
feel like Celtics. Boston's a rough place. The
bottom line is, there's no ice cream and cherries.
You have to tell the whole story. Every team
that's hung a banner has gone through something.
This letter was sent to the garden, and it was
a threat against Bill's life and the kids. Len
Bias with this world in front of him gone. Reggie
Lewis, and he said his career may be over. He
was thinking, not again. Paul Pierce gets stabbed
multiple times, almost dies. A lot of things
happening outside the arena that were difficult.
But the time I spent in the locker room and on
the floor with my teammates was like heaven.
Larry Bird's not walking through that door, fans.
Kevin McHale's not walking through that door.
And Robert Parrish is not walking through that
door. This kind of bonding will now be duplicate.
The greatest thing you can accomplish is friendship.
Thank you, Boston. I love you. They all know
each other's story because it's all part of their
story. The Celtics are a way of life. They're
not just a team. We're the Celtics. This is nine
episodes. Basically from the beginning of the
Celtics all the way up to the 2024 championship
and covers the years that I was a kid and covers
the years that I was watching them with my Aunt
Rose. Unfortunately, my Aunt Rose passed away
back in 2003. But, yeah, no. As soon as I saw,
as soon as I heard about this, I don't even know
how I heard about it. I don't know if it was
through an Instagram clip or through something,
but as soon as I, I was like hunting this down,
like ready. I was like, okay, where's this up?
Like literally I was on HBO max the day that
the episode was supposed to air. I'm like, why
isn't it up yet? Why isn't it online yet? Where's
the episode? I'm like, okay, fine. I'll just
wait. And then I just started waiting. I'm like,
okay, fine, whatever. And I just watched it whenever
I had the chance to. But, no, it was so nice
just looking back and just seeing all the perspectives
from everybody involved, seeing some of the media
perspectives from the time and from the whatever.
Because, like I said, the last time I was in
Massachusetts, as of now, In 2025, the last time
I was home was 2012? Yeah, that was the last
time I was home. So it's been a while since I've
been home in Massachusetts. So seeing this is
like being at home again. So watching these nine
episodes, hearing the story, seeing Larry Bird,
seeing Robert Parrish, seeing Danny Ainge, Kevin
McHale. Seeing everybody talk about the times
and whatever. Hell, even though we hated him
and we still kind of hate him for all this about,
you know, blah, blah, blah. Even seeing Rick
Pitino talk about the Celtics just brought back
a bunch of memories. Hell, seeing the early days
about Red and Red Auerbach and all that and just
learning about the early, because obviously I
wasn't born in 65, 66. Just learning about all
that stuff and everything Bill Russell went through
and Havlicek and all that. Just so good. So fun.
So that's my list. It's your list. There were
some choices I agreed with and some choices that
made me go, what? What's the number one choice
that made you go, what? uh when you were like
okay so you you pulled you pulled uh you pulled
a different choice out of your ass the last second
but when you were like when you were like uh
uh so i talked about breaking bad a lot so i
think i'm gonna oh okay yeah yeah i was like
i was ready to throw my phone at the computer
and like like like like i don't care how bored
you are with that show and i heard your explanation
for it but like I would have respected you not
picking anything for that year. Sweet Life of
Zack and Cody over Breaking Bad. But you picked
a Knight Rider thing. So it's like, okay, well,
clearly he loves fucking Knight Rider. I'll let
it go without commentary. It will come back up
again in my list. So, yeah. I think that was...
I do not love Scrappy -Doo. Apparently you love
Scooby -Doo a lot more than I ever thought you
did. A lot more than I thought any human being
did. The Scrappy -Doo one, apparently you're
the guy that likes Scrappy -Doo. Yeah, I am.
A lot of it was pretty... You like the action
-adventure stuff of the 80s. I get that. I really
think the Suite Life one was the one where I
was just like, if you pick that, I'm done. I'm
done with you. I'm done with this whole mad nonsense.
Because really? A C -tier Disney thing? Like,
just really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Overbreaking bad?
I didn't. I didn't. I know, I know. You asked,
pull the Knight Rider thing, and it's like, okay,
he loves Knight Rider. Apparently... I thought
I knew the world's biggest Knight Rider fan,
and apparently I did. He just wasn't who I thought
he was. Yeah, it's me and Josh. He just wasn't
who I thought he was. Yeah, it's me and Josh.
I thought it was Josh. Yeah, it's both of us,
but he likes it for a different reason. He hasn't
even seen all the episodes. I was like, Josh,
dude, we got to get... What? He likes the Hoth
more than he likes Knight Rider. He likes the...
I assumed it was from Knight Rider. I guess I
just made assumptions. I just assumed that it
was based on his love of Knight Rider. My interest
in Knight Rider was mostly because I was a huge
fan of St. Osware. And Dr. Craig was the car.
Dr. Craig was the car. Alright, folks. That's
going to do it for this episode of Studio 2009.
And that's going to do it for... Well, that's
not going to do it for TV because we've got a
bunch of TV coming up. Don't I get to do my list?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But your list is, well,
yeah. What? Yeah, you get to do your list. It's
just not airing next. I'm not worried about when
it's going to air. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going
to do your list. Yeah, we're going to record
your episode. Not tonight, but we'll record your
episode next, but it'll air later. I know you're
not worried about recording, but I'm looking
at the schedule. So, folks, we just finished
Columbo Season 3 before this episode. Coming
up next, starting in Episode 180 of the podcast,
will be, this is different from what these episodes
are, but we are launching... We already launched
it. We launched it in episode 150. We are continuing
on with the origins in television. So the difference
is that the origins in television is 30 questions
about your TV watching habits. So what kind of
shows do you watch? What kind of habits do you
have? Do you do this? Do you do that? So it's
similar to the comic book stuff. It's similar
to the toy collecting stuff. It's that kind of
thing. So we got that with me in the hot seat.
And then my buddy Optimus Solo is going to come
in, and I'm going to ask him the questions for
that. And then you will hear the TV show choices
from Mr. David Draper. And then after that, hopefully,
if everything works out well, we will have the
50th anniversary of the fake shark. So that's
what's coming up. I mean, it's at the end of
August, so I got the tickets. Yep, yep, yep.
Absolutely. So that's what's coming up. Here
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Any final thoughts or anything you'd like to
say before I run through the closing, sir? No,
I don't think so. I mean, again, I keep saying
over and over again, it's your list, so, you
know, and it's subjective. It's what you like.
I mean, there is really, aside from the sweet
life of Zack and Cody, there is no wrong answer.
Alright, movie and TV fans, as always, we want
to thank you for joining us here inside Studio
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from the Disney Channel. We have... Excuse me.
Sorry, I'll have to edit that point. Damn it.
I'm having issues today. I hate having health
issues on podcasts. God damn it. Edit point.
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