MEDIA MAYHEM – The TV Show Choices of David Draper!

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ever TV Choices in the Media, more media mayhem

here inside Studio 2009. As always, it'll be

like sands of the hourglass. These are the decades

of our lives. We welcome back none other than

Mr. David Draper. Hello, sir. How are you? I'm

all right. I'm a little tired, but I'm fine.

Yeah, I'm constantly in a state of tiredness,

so I understand. And folks, as always, and I'll

probably say this, I probably won't say this

when he's not here, but I'll say it when it's

easy. This is all his fault. But yeah, we are

continuing on with the media mayhem TV listings.

This is the second episode for the TV listings.

And Dave is going to give his list. If you listened

a couple episodes ago, you heard my list. As

a reminder, because we are not doing these episodes,

these specific types of episodes every week.

So if you don't hear this in a little while,

so we always like to remind you of the rules.

These lists are inherently subjective. They are

not the quote -unquote best TV shows of each

year, but our favorites, therefore no choice

can be wrong. Quiet eye -rolling is, however,

allowed. More personal thing, but in many cases

we define favorite as TV show we'd most like

to watch. You have to have seen the TV show,

but do not have to have actually seen it the

year it was released. And you can only pick one

TV show each year, 84, and you must pick one

TV show from every year, 2006. So just for the

audience's sake, those numbers reflect when I

was doing the movie list, 84 was a difficult

one to pick one thing, and 2006 was a difficult

year to find anything. Yes. That's why those

numbers are there, not just random numbers. Yes,

yes. All right, sir. Starting out, 1971, the

year of your birth. What do you got? I mean,

this one should be pretty obvious even to people

who listen to the... I'm already writing it down.

Yeah, I mean, it's pretty obvious. It's Columbo.

Although, you know, I was really tempted to be

a jerk and do the whole, well, I didn't see it

at the time, so I have no attachment to it. Because

I actually, I watched it in grad school, in the

90s. Mm -hmm. And you, like, four or five, I

would come home from grad school and watch Columbo

on 80, which is where I stole the whole more

Columbo mumbo jumbo. Yep. That was their bumper

to commercials. Lieutenant? You buy that here?

Uh, no, I bought it in the donut shop because

I was going to eat it in the elevator. But then

I saw my friend here and, um... I'm terribly

sorry. Oh, let me see. Um... I can come back.

No, no, no, no. I'll have, um... I'll have a

donut. I don't know that we should... We'll move

on because we have an entire podcast talking

about how much we love Columbo. Yeah, so within

Studio 2009... Yeah, Columbo's number one for

1971. And yes, we do have the Columbo files here

on Studio 2009. And yes, folks, we will be getting

back to that. Unfortunately, it will most likely

be in 2026 when we get back to that because the

way the schedule... is falling out for the rest

of 2025, it's a tight fit. Season 3 has already

been released, as far as I know, off the top

of my head. And without having to do a bunch

of clicking and typing, I don't remember off

the top of my head how many episodes are in Season

4. A lot. After season three, I think they winnow

down pretty quickly. Oh, yeah. I know they do.

Yeah, no, absolutely. I know they do. I just

don't remember. And right now, like, I'm literally

juggling every, like, I'm cutting this, I'm moving

this. So, yeah, Columbo season four will happen

probably somewhere around March or April of 2026.

And then we have Muppet Mayhem. in May of 2026.

So there's a preview for 2026 for everybody.

1972, what do you got? It's another one, like,

so, like, the first show that I actually watched

as it aired will be 74. Because, you know, I

was a baby. Right, right. But it's interesting,

like, Columbo I watched in grad school. This

one I watched when I was, I have to imagine it

was the 80s, like the early 80s on, like, TBS

or something. Like, it was in reruns. And it's

the Bob Newhart Show. Hey, hey, hey. Hey. Hey,

you're too hay short. Hey, hey. Thanks, girl.

Oh, what brings you here? I was in the neighborhood

looking at some bun warmers for the restaurant.

I thought you might like to have lunch. You and

me and Corrine? You don't like her, do you, Bob?

No, she's fine. She's very attractive for an

ex -librarian. I understand. When you married

Emily, I didn't like her either. You didn't?

Well, she's kind of pushy. Are you talking about

my Emily, Emily Hartley? Yeah. And she has no

sense of humor. She's a stick in the mud. She

has a great sense of humor. She laughs at everything.

I've seen people sucking lemons smile more. You

know the party that I do where I put my shoes

on the wrong feet and wear my coat backwards?

She always breaks up at that. Yeah, I've heard

it. It's a forced laugh. I think M .A .S .H.

came out this year as well, but I've always really

loved the Bob Newhart show, despite the fact

that it paints a picture of Chicago as not being

a horrible, corrupt, dystopian hellhole. Yeah.

I don't know what else to say about it. You like

Bob Newhart? I like that he's the calm center

in a whirlwind of craziness. Yeah. Absolutely.

It was a pretty hard year. It was pretty barren.

This is when I reached out to you and said, can

we do cartoons? And we had the whole, do we do

cartoons? Do we not do cartoons? I was like,

well, I'm doing cartoons. So it's The Super Friends.

Free geek service to anyone who wants it. Good

fellow made that announcement a month ago. And

since that time, most of the people have subscribed

to Geek Service. It's a serious situation. The

geek has completely changed the lifestyle of

the world. In what way? I'll show you. Look out

the window at what used to be a busy downtown

street. Great Neptune. Where is everyone? Geek

subscribers are all at home. Men don't have to

go to their jobs anymore. Women don't have to

go shopping. The good old geek takes care of

everything. Whatever they need at home is delivered

by these geek trucks. No drivers. That truck

is carrying supplies to a factory. An automated

factory. No workers. That policeman has nothing

to do. This city used to be so alive. Now it's

dull and monotonous. You can tell this year was

pretty rough because I don't even particularly

like the Super Friends. But I remember I've watched

the Super Friends and this probably is the Wendy

and Marvin era, which is like mediocre Super

Friends, but it was a couple years until I got

to the challenge of Super Friends with the Darth

Vader headquarters of the Legion of Doom. Yeah.

That's what I remember. Yeah. I think that's

what everybody remembers. It's the good one.

1974. They were on a routine expedition in the

greatest earthquake ever known. This one should

be pretty obvious if you've paid attention. Like,

Land of the Lost. Sid and Marty Kroft, Marshall,

Will, and Holly end up in a bizarre world of

dinosaurs and dinosaur people, the Sleestacks.

I don't know how we got here or why, but I think

we're in another world. What makes you say that,

Dad? Well, because last night I saw three moons

in the sky. Three moons? But how, Dad? Well,

I think it must have happened when we went over

the waterfall. Remember how it never seemed to

end? Just like it seemed to fall through a hole

in space. Well, then we may never get home. No,

I wouldn't say that. If there's a way in here,

there's got to be a way out of here. It just

might take us a while to find it. I keep on wishing

this was a dream. We'd all wake up and we'd be

right back home again. Doesn't sound like any

dream I ever heard of. Sounds like the Tyrannosaur.

He must have picked up our scent. Come on, we've

got to keep moving to stay ahead of him. Let's

go! Hurry! Let's go! Love this as a kid. I actually

like the Will Ferrell movie, even though it's

like taking the... taking the piss out of the

show. This is one that I actually went back and

re -watched before that movie came out. 2025

is weird because everything is a decade from

now, but I remember being recently, I watched

Land of the Lost. It was a decade ago when the

Will Ferrell movie came out. 2015, yeah. Really?

2015? Yeah. No, I'm saying a decade ago was 2015.

Okay. I think it was longer than that. Okay.

But anyway, obviously, I really love that show.

Yeah. 1975. Nothing. Go ahead. 75. Do you have

any comments? No comments. No. I figured you

wouldn't have much to say about this early part

of the list. Not yet. It predates your existence.

Well, I mean, okay, look. Yeah, it predates my

existence. I was, okay, fine. You want commentary?

Fine. Super Friends, what I remember about Super

Friends isn't this version, I don't think, because

all I remember is, as you said, the Star Wars.

Yeah. Yeah. But I also remember, like, the Wonder

Twins and Gleek. It was the same era. Okay, well,

okay. Yeah, exactly. So that's what I remember.

And like we already said, Columbo is the best

70s. cop show ever. So, you know, one of them

anyway. So yeah, 1975. So one thing about like,

again, I'm really old and the neighborhood that

I grew up in when I was a kid, not 100 % on this,

but we didn't have cable. I know that. That was

the thing. We couldn't get cable because we had

to dig up the ground to get the cable in for

some stupid reason. I'm pretty sure we only had

like three We only have, like, ABC, CBS, and

PBS. I don't think we had NBC. Really? Yeah.

I'm 90 % sure we only had two networks and PBS.

And the reason I bring that up is because on

PBS, 1975, they premiered Sneak Previews with

Siskel and Ebert, which I followed them pretty

much, you know, every, you know, then it was

Sneak Previews, then it was At the Movies, they

jumped off of PBS, then it was Siskel and Ebert

and the movies. And then it was just Ebert and

the movies with his kick. Yeah. As I say in The

Simpsons, his kiss ass host, Roger Roper. I was

going to. Yeah, it was Ebert and Roper. Yeah.

Richard Roper, I think, is what his name was.

But yeah. And so I love that show. I watched

it a lot. I mean, for a while there, I was doing

toy reviews on YouTube. Yeah. I'm one of those

people, like, I pick Ratatouille from one of

my movies because I think there is value in reviews.

Yes. I think they can point out a good movie

that you weren't necessarily going to, like,

you know, find out on your own. And I don't know.

I have a whole thing about reviews. I think,

like, the trick to a good review is to listen

to what they say, not the final rating. And I

know that Siskel and Ebert didn't like the thumbs

up, thumbs down thing. Yeah. It was too simplistic.

Like, you got to listen to what they say. Because

one person, like, I remember... there used to

be a guy that really liked Marvel, but hated

DC. So when he gave dark night, a good review,

you go, okay, this must be a really good movie,

you know? Right. Yeah. Where, you know, it's

just, I like reviews. I have a couple of Ebert's

books because I like how he writes 1976. Oh,

I'm sorry. I was going to say they were both

really great. They were both really great people,

and the best homage to them that was ever produced

ever was done by Tom Ruger in Animaniacs with

Critical Condition. It was a Slappy and Skippy

Squirrel cartoon, and it's basically just Slappy

and Skippy just annoying the hell out of them.

It was hilarious. May I help you? Or did the

Goodyear blimp just land? Ha ha! Give me a large

tub of popcorn, and hurry! There you go, Shamu.

You want artificial butter flavoring on that?

Sure. All right, then. Does it cost extra? Artificial

butter? Nah, it's cheap stuff. Really? What's

it made of? Ah, it's just lard that I'm liposuctioning

out of your gut. Ew! Hey, pal, that'll be $7

.50. It's about time. The movie's starting. Where's

the balcony, kid? Upstairs, duh. Anyway, 76.

The Eversysk from Willow, which they saw through

that cheap attempt to win their favor and did

not give it to them. 1976, we talked about this

last time for 1991. It's the Muppet Show. The

Muppet Show. This is when it actually started.

Yes. It's the Muppet Show. Yay! It's time to

play the music. It's time to light the light.

Time once again for Veterinarian's Hospital.

The continuing story of a quack who's gone to

the dogs. Well, Nurse Janice, who's the next

patient? We'll see for yourself, Dr. Bob. Oh,

it's Kermit! My Kermit! All right, take it easy.

I'm okay. Quiet. This is a very dramatic moment.

Kermit, I shall nurse you back to health if it

takes a lifetime. What do you think's wrong with

him, Dr. Bob? Well, for one thing, he's been

badly exposed to overacting. Either that or overexposed

to bad acting. I am not acting. I love him. Nurse

Piggy, you cannot let your personal feelings

affect your duty. You are a nurse. I may be a

nurse, but I'm a woman. first wrong you're a

big first i had like the weird muppet show because

it had a weird 70s hippie mentality to it um

but obviously i loved it like i'm annoyed that

we only got the first three seasons on the dvds

because i think they had all problem they had

all these problems getting rights for all the

songs that they did it's the same thing that

happened muppet babies i know yeah other babies

apparently was notorious for like taking clips

of stuff like yes it's asking for permission

Yeah, so Muppet Babies, what I remember the story

being, because all of the clips would be in the

doors that they would open and they would see

all these. It's similar to a lot of the Looney

Tunes issues that the Looney Tunes used to have

where they would throw, like when Bugs would

open the door and he would see a bunch of dancing,

a bunch of lady dancers and a bunch of music

playing, same thing. That was because they were

using Warner Brothers stuff because it was Warner

Brothers. Well, yes. I swear, they finally got

around the Muppet Show stuff and got all five

seasons out. No. We had this conversation before,

and you looked it up, and I was right. Number

1977. Droids and Ewoks. No, no, 77. God, no.

Isn't he in 85? It's The Incredible Hulk. Ah,

The Incredible Hulk. Who is it? It's David. David?

David, they told me you left, that you would...

Disturbed or something. Julie, listen to me.

I've got to try and get you out of here. You're

in terrible danger. No, this is my room. My house.

Julie. Julie, listen. Try to understand. Your

stepmother and Dr. Bonifant are trying to kill

you. No. Listen. Julie, the drugs that they are

giving you are not to help you. They're trying

to poison you. No. Julie, look. I have the x

-rays from Dr. Bonifant's office. They have his

fingerprints on it for evidence. He's altered

them to make it look as if your legs were damaged.

But they are. I can't walk. Julie, you can. Did

you understand? They're trying to kill you. No,

I don't believe you. Julie. No, I don't believe

you. Hurry. Go faster. Julie, I've got to get

you out of here. No. You let me alone. Julie.

Danny! Let me go! Julie! Let go of me! Julie!

I don't know. Get the door open. He's one of

my favorite comic book characters. And what's

really fascinating is that this show defined

the character's whole thing, his whole deal,

right? He wanders from town to town, he gets

provoked and turns into the Hulk. And the show

deliberately tried to avoid... It was trying

to be nothing like the comic book, actually.

And it's weird because I've read... They did

these DVDs, not DVDs, but like these discs that

had, I can't remember the name of the program.

They had every issue of a particular comic for

Marvel, right? Like they had the Incredible Hulk,

including like the early Tales to Astonish stuff.

Right. And it's really fascinating. Like Hulk's

a fascinating read because they were constantly

changing it. It constantly was a different thing.

Every couple of issues. It was crazy. And then

after the show came out, it suddenly became Bruce

Banner moved from town to town, then he'd get

provoked to turn into the Hulk. But yeah, I really

liked that show, and we talked about that a little

bit when we got to Daredevil, because in the

late 80s, they tried to bring it back with a

couple of TV movies. One was Trial of the Incredible

Hulk, which had Daredevil. There was one with

Thor. I can't remember what that one was called.

And then the last one, the Hulk dies. And that

was supposed to be a backdoor pilot for She -Hulk.

It never really went anywhere. Right. 1978. If

you've ever wondered, wondered what ever became

of me, I'm living on the air in Cincinnati. Cincinnati

WKRP. One of my all -time favorite shows. You

don't understand, and I don't expect you to.

No, no, I understand. Believe me, this is so

deeply warped, even I get it. KRP is not supposed

to make money. That's the deal. We're set up

to lose, but we didn't. And that's why you're

changing the format, so you can lose money for

two more years. Good night. You are telling your

own son that you want him to be the general manager

of the number one station in the market, and

you'd be happier if it was 16th. How do you think

he'd feel if he knew? A very interesting turn,

don't you think? A little run -down radio station

in Cincinnati plays polka music, I believe, gets

a new program director in Andy Travis. It immediately

changes the format to rock and roll. And chaos

ensues. So many great characters, so many memorable

characters. Herb Tarlick, the sales manager.

You know what the suit says? It says, trust me,

sign my deal. I know what I'm doing. Do not adjust

your set. This one actually, when I was in high

school, there was an episode that they actually,

in one of my English textbooks, they used the

script from that episode. One where Venus Flytrap

explains the atom. This kid. It was the classic,

like, he was explaining it like it was gangs.

The protons were one gang, neutrons were another

gang. I mean, it was... Yeah, yeah. In the 70s,

it was progressive. You might come across as

a little racist nowadays, but, like, it meant

well. No. Okay, so... I'm not saying to you.

I'm saying it to, like, the hypothetical millennial

or Gen Z -er. But let's just say that... Okay.

The crypts are blue, the bloods are red, and

this other gang over here is green. Okay? The

neutrons are this color, the protons are this

color, and the electrons are this color. For

the actual colors of the bandanas or the rags

or the whatever. You didn't talk about imposter.

It was just they were gangs and they used the

gangs. Right. Right, right. But that's what I'm

saying. Like, yeah. That's not... Okay, anyway.

The elected ones and the neutrals. I saw four

or five episodes of this and I thought it was

amazing. I love that show. The one sad thing

is I have it on Shout Factory DVD. Apparently

the original home release was really bad because

like we were saying with the Muppets, they couldn't

get access to a lot of the music. They had to

switch the music to stuff. That's good. I guess

whoever runs Shout Factory has connections in

the music industry. Uh -huh. The Shout Factory

collection, some of them, I'm not sure all of

the music got restored, but some of the music

got restored. Nice. I mean, there's, like, famous

moments where they play, like, Hot Blooded and

some other famous songs. Oh, nice. Yeah, Shout

Factory always... Go ahead. I was going to say,

of course, the episode everybody remembers, and

it is a classic. As God is my witness, I thought

turkeys could fly. The Thanksgiving episode.

That's awesome. They literally bombed the town

of Cincinnati with turkeys. They throw them out

of a helicopter. Yeah, that's hilarious. He's

like, as God is my witness. At the very end,

Arthur comes in and says, as God is my witness,

I thought turkeys could fly. Yeah. The classic

episode. Absolutely. Shout Factory has always

done a really good job of doing the best they

can to restore as much as they can of the original

content that we would have seen on television

for their releases. If they can do it, they do

it. They go to great lengths to painstakingly

restore stuff. 1979. 1979. is a Japanese cartoon,

actually, that came to America, and I just remember

it being a big deal and being fascinated by it.

Starblazers. Okay. Never heard of this. It's

the one with... It's in Japanese. In Japan, it's

known as Spaceship Yamamoto. The one with the

big battleship, but they turn it into a spaceship.

I cannot bear to see what has become of Earth,

once green and growing with blue lakes and silver

streams. Great rivers and mighty seas, now all

gone. Only day and burning desert left. Radiation

everywhere. In the year 2199, planet Earth was

facing extinction. In the mid -21st century,

the mysterious planet Gamelon, a planet outside

our solar system, declared war on all of Earth.

These evil marauders of space, known for their

ruthless warfare throughout the galaxies... began

to bombard Earth with their deadly planet bombs.

The surface of the Earth became unlivable. People

could only survive by moving to underground cities

far below the Earth's surface. There was no defense

against the bombing. The nations of the world

fought as one against the Gamelons, but one by

one, Earth's space fleets were defeated. The

Gamelons demanded total surrender, but the Earth

Defense Command refused. So the Gamelons continued

their attack. And now another danger looms. The

deadly radiation pollution caused by the bombs

covers the Earth. And soon, even the underground

cities will no longer be safe, as day by day,

the radiation sinks deeper into the Earth. Earth

is now hopelessly contaminated. In a year's time,

all life on Earth will be extinct. Now, one last

desperate battle between the Earth Defense Fleet

and the Gamelons is being fought near the planet

Pluto. Earth has only one space battleship left.

commanded by Captain Avatar. Yeah, I've never

heard of the Star Blazers. Star Blazers, yeah.

Earth is attacked by aliens. They dig up this

old World War II battleship, the Yamamoto. They

turn it into a spaceship. The front is like this

huge super gun. I remember one of my best friends

in college remembered the line, go ahead, fire

the gun. And then they go to the alien planet

and beat them up. This is very simple stuff,

but in 19... 1979, like when you're a kid and

you're Star Wars psychotic, like space stuff.

I watched that and I watched... I can't remember

what it was called. But it's the one with the

ship that... It's kind of like Power Rangers,

but it's a cartoon. And they all have a bird

theme. And they have a spaceship that turns into

the Phoenix. You know what I'm talking about?

I'm trying to think. I can't remember what it

was called. It's another famous 70s anime. Oh,

70s. Yeah, because I saw it in the 70s. There's

the dude, there's the other dude, there's the

big fat dude, there's the weird little dude,

and there's the girl. And the weird little dude,

in the version I saw, had a weird speech pattern.

And when I saw that show again many years later,

he didn't have that. He was like... They also

added footage of an R2 -D2 robot who coordinated

everything in an underground base. GeForce, maybe?

Maybe? I do not know. But I picked Star Blazers

because I remember his name. Okay, there you

go. 1980, another cartoon. One man bursts his

bonds for freedom. It's Thundar, the Barbarian.

Now, this one I also went back and watched. There's

a couple of these I went back and watched. This

one did not hold up as well. But I love the premise.

It's a barbarian dude with a lightsaber, a Wookiee,

and Princess Ariel. And they ride around the

dystopian future world because a comet passed

between Earth and the moon and wrecked the moon.

Now it's all like this quasi... Mad Max meets

Lord of the Rings. The groundlings captive. Where

is he? The main thing about this show was that

it... Remember, this is 1980. Yeah. It gave Jack

Kirby a lot of work. At this point, this was

his post -Marvel career. I don't want to get

into it, but he was not treated well by Marvel.

There are a lot of things like this and then

Superpowers, the toy line, both deliberately

gave Kirby a lot of work out of respect. He created

the Marvel Universe. You've got to love it for

that. There's a lot of Kirby designs in Thundar.

And just the classic, Ariel, Ookla, ride! And

then they ride off on their horses. It's great.

When I played Star Wars Galaxies, I created a

macro that every time I jumped on my space bike,

I'd go, Ariel, Ookla, ride! When you mentioned

the moon, I was like, that's no battle station.

81? 81, look what's happening to me. I can't

believe it myself. Suddenly I am up on top of

the world. Should have been somebody else. Greatest

American hero. Average school teacher gets a

super suit from aliens. How's it going with the

class? Listen to him. I hear him all the way

down here. I've had this class two weeks and

I'm getting nowhere with him. Sounds like cowboy

night at the Palomino Club. Yeah, well that's

special education for you, Ralph. I mean, these

kids are in here because they're trouble. They're

disrupting the entire high school, you know?

We get pencils and notebooks. All we need is

riot guns and helmets. Hey, look, look, I'm sorry

you got the duty. I really am. I sympathize.

But I had this class for eight months, and my

medical insurance about got canceled. Just sit

on them. Keep the door closed. Wear a flak vest

and read them the Sunday funnies you'll make.

I just thought maybe I could get these kids back

into the mainstream of the school. I mean, that

is the general idea, isn't it? Some of these

kids are really smart, Ray. Like Rhonda. You

talking about love me, Rhonda? Come on, Ralph,

get serious. You got a trash can in there. Now

you get soft on these kids and they're going

to plow you right under. I just think I ought

to be able to do some good, get them interested,

even one. Is that so damned impossible? And tries

to make the world a better place. And is joined

in his quest by a guy, Robert Culp, we've mentioned

on Columbo a couple times. Yep, yep. He was either

an FBI agent. I think he was an FBI agent. And

then Connie Selica was the main character's girlfriend.

It was cute. It was fun. My favorite episode

was, I think, the season one finale, but it might

have been season two. The aliens come back. Because

the whole thing is, like, he doesn't know how

to use the suit. Like, that's the premise of

the show. So he's always, like, flying into things.

He's always clumsy, and he doesn't even know

what half the powers of the suit does. The aliens

come back, and they don't talk, but they explain

to him that the reason they gave him the suit

is because their world was destroyed. They destroyed

their own world, and they don't want that happening

to Earth. And they send him back, and he's actually

got an instruction booklet. He's so happy about

it. He's trying new powers of the suit, and one

of them is that he can shrink to tiny, tiny size.

And for a minute, he's like, oh, God, how do

I get back? And so he grows back again. And Bill,

Robert Culp is like, that's great. What else

can you do? And it's like, well, oh wait, I put

the book down on this boulder over here. And

it's like, looking around, it's like, no, it

was a grain of sand. He lost the instruction

book again. This is a good movie. And then there's

one where they have the Loch Ness Monster, which

is a great one too. You know, the funniest thing

about that show, the only thing I remember from

it, from seeing it as a kid, is the opening sequence

and the theme song. That's all I remember about

that show. I know I watched certain episodes.

I don't know which certain, but I know I saw

episodes as a kid, but the only thing that's

ever stuck with me is the opening montage and

the theme song. Well, those are the most memorable

parts of the show. The theme song was like, back

in the 70s, there were a lot of theme songs that

became actual radio hits. Oh, absolutely, yeah.

Welcome Back Cotter and this one. 1982. This

is the only year, I think, on my list that comes

close to being what you were calling a bloodbath

the other day. There are three shows that could

have all been picked. The first one I'm going

with is Tales of the Gold Monkey, which was a

very short -lived adventure series. I'll kind

of mention it again later down the list. It was

very Indiana Jones inspired. The guy had a plane

and he was in the South Pacific. Deplane, Deplane.

No, no, that's not what I'm saying. I know, I

know, I know. Second one is the first series

of Black Adder on BBC. I assume BBC, I don't...

And it's actually not my favorite season, but

I think the best one is Black Adder Goes Fourth,

but that was a rough year, too. It's a funny

show. And that was what I was saying the other

day, was... Like, every series is different.

The first one is kind of a weird quasi -spoof

of Shakespeare. Second one's set in Elizabethan

times. Third series is set during King George

III. And the fourth one, Blackadder Goes Forth,

is during World War I. Fantastic ending, where

at the end, they all get sent over the top, and

it just, like, they're running towards the camera,

and it, like, freeze frames, and it just cuts

to, like, Landers Field with the poppies growing

because they all died. Generally, at the end

of every season, they all died. But the one I

picked for 1982 was St. Elsewhere because that

was one of my favorite shows. That was a medical

drama. It always got terrible ratings, but Brandon

Tartikoff loved it. He was president of NBC.

Oh, by this time, I had moved to a place where

I had NBC. And like, you know, we were talking

about Dr. Craig was one of my favorite characters.

It also gave us Denzel Washington was on that

show. Yes, he was. You know, I'm thinking about

doing a report on you medical guys when I get

out of here. What kind of report? An expose.

Now that I see how things really work around

here. You taking a course in cynicism with that

fancy finishing school of yours? It's not a finishing

school. It's a prep school. Oh, I see. A prep

school. Where they take you on teen tours in

South America. That's right. Well, they should

have taught you not to buy from a street vendor.

Now you don't know anything about South America?

I've been there. And I didn't get sick. Not off

your camera. What were Spencer's numbers last

night? Uh, 136, 5 .1, 101, 25. Donald. Dr. Ashlander.

Elevator not working? Trying to keep in shape.

I heard Dr. Ashlander's got cancer. Yeah, liver.

How long's he got? Well, he's a liver specialist,

not me. Pretty ironic, isn't it, Dr. Westfall?

What's that? Dr. Ashlander's one of the top liver

men in the world. He gets hit with liver cancer.

It's a shame. I think we can save the eulogies.

Knowing Daniel Oshlander, you'll probably outlive

all of us. Dr. Cavaniaro. What is it, Luther?

I've been looking for you. You better talk to

that patient of yours, that animal Henry Smith.

Look, Luther, I know I gave you a hard time last

week. Hard time? The next time he comes at me

with that wild look in his eyes, patient or no

patient, I'm going to shoot him. I don't have

time for this. You don't have time for it. I

just spent the last 20 minutes in physical therapy

waiting for him. He didn't show up this morning?

No. And the next time he has an appointment,

he better be there or else. I mean, my time ain't

cheap. Yeah, a lot of... Stephen First was on

that show. A lot of, you know... I really like

that show. It's a show that I watched... I remember

watching it all the way through. I remember the

ending was sort of weird and controversial. because

it turns out one of the characters had an autistic

son. And in the final episode, it was like, a

lot of characters died, but you see them, and

they're all in this apartment, and they're all

like a family. And the son has this snow globe

of a hospital. And the whole show was his autistic

dream. I don't really like the ending of that,

but people remember that was the weird ending.

Yeah. The rest of the show was really good. I

really liked the rest of the show. 1983. I think

this is my first and only miniseries. I felt

bad about this because I was going to do both

of them, 83 and 84, but 84 had a stronger contender.

Even though I like the one from 84 better. It's

the science fiction one. Aliens come to Earth.

They're our friends. They look just like us,

but they have a weird sort of voice. But they're

not our friends. They're lizard people. It's

all a trick. They're gonna, like, store us and

eat us. And originally... Originally, the thing

was they were also gonna use us as slaves to

fight in a war against their enemy, but that

never really got developed. In 84, they had V,

The Final Battle, which I actually like much

more. That's when humanity really pushes back

and wins. But, you know, Mark Singer, Jane Botter,

as Diana, V, The Final Battle had... Oh, God,

he was Ham Tyler. He's one of the coolest guys.

I can't remember his name. He was in Starship

Troopers. He was a cool badass guy. Badass guy

in just about everything. Who wasn't Clarence

Boddicker. Michael Ironside. Michael Ironside.

Love Michael Ironside. He was the voice of Darkseid

in Superman the Animated Series. As I said, he's

a badass. That's right. 1984. Yes, the bloodbath.

This is Jeopardy. Now entering the studio are

today's contestants. An advertising copywriter

originally from Miami, Florida, Frank Sullivan.

A freelance copywriter originally from Plainview,

New York, Lois Kleinstein. And an energy demonstrator

from Waverly, Ohio, Greg Hopkins. And now, here

is the host of Jeopardy, Alex Trebek. Thank you

very much, ladies and gentlemen. On behalf of

all of us, welcome to America's favorite answer

and question game, Jeopardy. You know how we

play it. We provide the categories and the answers,

and it's then up to our contestants to give us

the right questions. Really? Interesting. You

know, I watched this... Was not expecting a game

show. There were periods where I would watch

it every day. It was a rare show that I could

watch with my mom. And there's actually like

a... Funny thing is, there was one year, it was

a long time after 1984, but... Yeah. One time,

I was in a weird mood. I was feeling stupid.

And so, like, the whole first Jeopardy! round,

I kept going, what is an emu? What is an emu?

For every question, what is an emu? And finally,

my mom said, stop it! She had enough. And in

Double Jeopardy, one of the questions was, this

large flightless bird. And it was like, oh my

god, what is an emu? And from that point on,

emu became like a joke between us. Like an in

-joke. That's funny. So, I really like that show.

I have a lot of fond memories of it. I kind of

didn't really keep watching it after Alex passed.

I've only watched highlight. Again, 2025, we

live in a world where you can watch a clip here

and there on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, YouTube,

wherever. I've only watched clips here and there.

Yeah, you're right. Ever since Alex passed, it's

like, I love that they're continuing it, that

they're continuing the tradition, but it's just

not. The same without him. And I have brought

something to the show. Oh, absolutely. And I'm

not saying that what they're doing now isn't

bringing something. It's just not my Jeopardy

anymore. Yeah, that's fair. You know, I have

both versions. I have number 776. Well, technically

they're both 776, but I have the original and

the chase version. Funko Pops of Alex. The original

is him without the mustache. The Chase version

is him with the mustache. And the two Jeopardy

cards are different in both of them. And I have

photos on Facebook. When I first got these years

and years ago, whenever they first came out.

When did these first come out? 2019 or whenever.

I remember when these first came out, I went

on to Jeopardy's YouTube channel and I found

just like a... freeze frame of alex and i just

in front of my monitor and i just put these in

front of the monitor took a picture put it on

facebook so yep love jeopardy my my mom my grandma

every oh god everybody we would all and that's

the thing in the 80s it was and i've mentioned

this before in this podcast and other past episodes

in new england it was the news from 5 30 to 6

30. Well, from 5 to 6 .30 p .m. From 7 to 8 p

.m., it was Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy. I

know in Illinois, you guys had it from like 3

to 3 .30 in the afternoon, which is weird as

hell. Yeah, we had Jeopardy and then the news

and then Wheel of Fortune. Yeah, that was weird.

And then from 8 p .m. to 10 p .m., 11 p .m.,

we had the primetime shows and stuff. So yeah,

love Jeopardy. Alright, 85, what do you got?

85 is another one that I actually didn't watch

at the time. I watched it later, speaking of

my mom. She passed away in 2009, and I started,

for whatever reason, I started watching this

show. It was rerun heavily on the Hallmark Network.

I hadn't watched it back in its run, because

it was the kind of show that I would never watch

normally, but for some reason, I guess it was

like comfort food kind of thing. The Golden Girls.

Rose, that is a happy woman in there. Now, I

want you to promise that you will not say anything.

Do you promise? Do you promise? Stop! Blanche,

might I see you a moment? Pardonnez -moi. Oh.

You keep your bloomers on, Scarlett. He's taking

me out tomorrow night. But he wants me. I can

feel it. Let somebody else feel it. I saw him

first. But we were meant for each other. I'm

a woman, he's a man. And what am I, little Richard?

And I really got into it when I was watching

it in reruns. I don't know. It had an interesting

mix of characters and it was funny and it was

cute. Obviously, I like Bea Arthur because she

was in a Star Wars. Yeah, Golden Girls. I love,

again, another show that will, certain clips

will pop up on various social media platforms.

One of the clips is when they try to point out

how good Betty White was at the improv of it

all. One of the scenes is where she's talking

about what she sold by the side of the road,

and Bea Arthur is trying to, as Dorothy is trying

to correct her, and she goes, you don't know

what I sold by the side of the road. People forget,

I think, that Betty White was Sue Ann Nivens

in the Mary Tyler Moore show. She was the Blanche

character. Oh, yeah. And, like, I think she actually

tried out for the Blanche character for Golden

Girls. For Golden Girls, yeah. But, like, so

the character that rose was, like, a 180 -degree

opposite of the character that she'd made famous.

Yeah. Yeah. But love the Golden Girls. All right.

86. What do you got? 86 will probably be a little

obscure for you, but I loved it. Because, like

I said, we didn't really have HBO. We had Showtime.

And this was kind of a Showtime original. It

was called It's Gary Shandling Show. Oh, the

Gary Shandling show. I remember that. It's Gary

Shandling's show, which is different than the

other one. It's not the Larry Sanders show. It's

a deep description of sitcoms. Yeah. Okay. Welcome

to the show. Welcome to the show, really. I'm

thrilled you're all here because I think of you

as more than viewers. I think of you as friends.

And I'm thrilled you're here because I just broke

up with my girlfriend. And all my other friends,

yes, I know that comes as a surprise. And all

my other friends say, hey, what are you worried

about? There's plenty of fish in the sea. What

the heck does that mean? What do fish say when

they break up? Hey, there's chicks on the beach.

Don't worry about it. And so I'm in the midst

of moving into this new place. I just sold my

old place for $85 ,000, and my landlord was real

upset about that. He said, you were renting that

place. I said, oh, man. I forgot. I'll give you

some of the money. I feel horrible about this.

So I want to tell you all about what's going

on in my life. But, you know, first I got to

go to the bathroom and you can watch the opening

credits and I should be right back. It was just

weird and goofy. And like I said, it was a deconstruction

of sitcoms. He would always like break the fourth

wall, talk to the audience. The theme song literally

like just says this is the theme to Gary's show.

The opening theme to Gary's show. Remember he

had this little tiny toy car when he would have

to drive the car? The set was kind of an R -Town

thing. And I really liked it. It was funny. It

was interesting. I didn't really understand deconstruction

at the time. Nobody did. Yeah, well, because

it wasn't running out of the ground yet. Yeah,

exactly. It was new and high concept for 86.

Yeah, it was. Yeah. Yeah. 87. Star Trek, the

next generation. Right, next generation. I feel

bad putting it in 87 because the first two seasons

are terrible. But the question of justice has

concerned me greatly of late. And I say to any

creature who may be listening, there can be no

justice so long as laws are absolute. Even life

itself is an exercise in exceptions. You say

you are true evil. Shall I tell you what true

evil is? It is to submit to you. It is when we

surrender our freedom, our dignity, instead of

defying you. Would you choose one life over 1

,000, sir? I refuse to let arithmetic decide

questions like that. You have extended your life.

At the expense of another. Graves, give Data

back. Give him back. Data is dead. No. He must

not be lost. He's not simply an android. He's

a life form. Entirely unique. Data is not human.

He is... He is different. Yes. But that does

not make him expendable or any less significant.

By that third season, it really started kicking

on all thrusters. Seasons three through six were

amazing. They ran out of gas and Beverly had

sex with her grandmother's ghost boyfriend. We

need to never talk about it again. It's a great...

It's a fascinating thing because Star Trek was

such an iconic show that we look at it... Nowadays,

they bring back stuff and I'm like, oh God, let

it die. Back in the day, this was actually considered

better than the original. And for a long time,

this was the bigger show. I think once that era

kind of passed, once Enterprise kind of closed

down, we've kind of moved back to the Kirk -Spock

-McCoy thing. Well, I say we are incapable of

original thoughts, and then I go, oh yeah, Discovery.

Now I don't know what to decide. It's an original

thought, but it's an original thought that probably

shouldn't have been thought of. No, no, not at

all. Also, I want to specifically mention Worf

because he's one of my favorite characters of

all time. I love Worf. I adore him. Such a great

character. Just consistently. Even in Picard

Season 3, he's the best thing. Yeah, it's a great

continuation from a classic franchise. If I was

old enough to be from 1963, I'd probably be dead.

No, you wouldn't be dead. It was 1966. Yeah,

I would probably have the original one if I could.

I know this is your list, and I usually try not

to tell this story every single time, but I'm

going to anyway. This was my Star Trek. This

is how I got started as a seven -year -old. And

in the mid -90s, 93, 94, I ended up with my dad

and my stepmother at the time in Kentucky having

to move from Massachusetts to Kentucky. And they

would run old reruns of the 60s show on what

was then called Big 58, Channel 58 in Louisville,

which is now... well it was at the time you became

upn and i'm just like i i went from picard and

number one and and and wharf and all the awesomeness

to the slow crap style of kirk and spock and

all of that and i'm like why is this show so

slow why like it's moving at negative warp speed

where the hell's all the action What's the point

of the... Give me a break here. I was 13 and

14 years old at that time. So going from being

7 and 87 into 13 and 14, going from TNG to TOS,

it's like, oh crap. But yeah, TOS rocks. What's

funny about that is generally the knock on Next

Generation is that it had less action than the

original show. even next generation itself made

fun of cowboy diplomacy in the episode with Spock

reunification. Um, also like, you know, I've

already said Rathacon was one of my favorite

movies, which was 82 and in the 70s, 70s is when,

you know, famously the original show got like

put back into syndication. So I had, I had seen

episodes of the original show. I think at some

point in the eighties, some station was rerunning

them pretty. regularly, before Next Generation

started. Even though the first few seasons are

bad, I like Next Generation from the jump. It's

funny, because that first episode, Encounter

at Farpoint, there's literally dialogue between

Riker and Picard that's all addressing the stuff

from the original series. Picard's like, if I

want to beam down to a planet, and Riker's like,

I'm not going to let you. That's not your job.

You're the captain of the ship. And of course,

by season, what, three or four, he was beaming

down to the planet regularly. Yeah, absolutely.

Because the mentality was, he's the captain.

He's the most important character. He's got to

be going, you know, because that was in the original

show, like the entire bridge crew, like the captain,

the chief of the medical sciences, their head

science officer, their head of engineering, would

all beam down to a planet with potentially dangerous

things. It was not smart, but it was fun. No,

it was not smart. Very fun. 1988. In the not

-too -distant future, next Sunday A .D., there

was a guy named Joel. Not too different from

you and me. He worked at Gizmonics Institute,

just another face in a red jumpsuit. Mystery

Science Theater 3000. Um... Trunk slam chest!

Fist rock bones! Stump beef knob! Smash lamp

jaw! Punch rock groin. Buck plank chest. Stump

junkman. Dirk hard pack. Rip steak face. Slate

slab rock. Crud bone meal. Brick hard meat. Whip

slag cheek. Punch side iron. Gristle McThorn

body. Slate fist crunch. Buff hard back. Bob

Johnson. Oh, wait. Although I do want to give

mention to another show, a British show called

Red Dwarf, which I also love, which is also set

in space, ironically, about a deep space mining

ship, and a guy gets put into a weird suspension

thing as punishment, and there's an accident,

and everybody dies on the ship, and so the computer

keeps him in suspension until it's safe. which

is like a million years later. Oh no. So he's

like the, like, like he had, he, he was in trouble

cause he brought a cat on board. He'd smuggled

the cat and the cat had kittens. And the, like

the only other living person on the ship is like

the humanoid descendant of those kittens after

a million years. Oh my God. And then the computer

like decides that he's going to go crazy without

another person to talk to. So it creates a hologram

of his bunkmate who he hated. Like they were

complete opposites. So it's like the hologram

of his bunkmate who was this officious little

prick. It's the cat. And then in later seasons,

they got a robot named Crichton. It's a great

show. It's very funny. My favorite season was

the seventh, I think. Long story short, the ship

gets recreated and all the crew members get brought

back to life or get recreated as being alive.

And then the main characters come to the ship.

And it's like, well, what are you doing here?

And they're like, but don't you know what happened?

And they're like, no, we don't have any idea

what happened. And you stole this shuttle. So

we're now arresting you. And then they were put

in prison, and it's like they joined the Canary

Squad, which they thought was a singing squad.

But no, it wasn't a choir group. You know about

coal mines? Oh, boy. They had to be sent into

the first ones into dangerous areas. Oh, my God.

I love that show. I love Mystery Science Theater

3000. I mean, they couldn't even make Manos watchable,

but it was fun. I still do some Netflix. Or not

Netflix. Rift Tracks. Rift Tracks, yeah. Too

many X's. Yep, too many X's. 1989 is a pretty

obvious one, but I mean, how can you not? It's

The Simpsons. Yep. Ow! Quit it. Ow! Quit it.

Ow! Quit it. Ow! Quit it. Hey, what's with this?

Ow! Quit it. Eat my shorts. Bart, stop it! Hey,

Bert! Eat my shorts! Who the Sam Hill was that?

Why, it's Homer Simpson, sir. One of the schmoes

from Sector 7G. Simpson, eh? I want him in my

office at 9 o 'clock Monday morning. We'll see

who eats whose shorts. If someone did eat Bart's

shorts, they'd have a tummy full of pocket garbage.

Particularly in the early, like, people, I think

people, like, are used to it being, like, 30

years old now, but, like, in the day, it was

hot stuff. You know, like, particularly when

they had, like, Conan O 'Brien writing for it.

A lot of those are great episodes. People still

quote them, still remember them. The Superman

film cribbed a joke from The Simpsons with the

million monkeys riding on typewriters. You were

talking about how you weren't allowed to watch

it. That was pretty common. There was a movement

among teachers and churches to Keep the children

from being perverted by this horrible show. Well,

I wasn't allowed to watch it when I was with

my dad and my stepmother and my mom. I'm saying

it was a broader thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay,

yeah. I would say, for me, what I remember, and

I could be completely wrong on this, but I'm

going to safely say for me, the popularity. What

I remember living in Massachusetts up until I

left in 93, from 89 to 93, it was the height

of the popularity. I don't know if it dipped

after 93 because I had too much life going on

and I wasn't really paying attention to the show

after that. And then I would dip in and watch

every once in a while from 93 to about 99. And

then I would watch every once in a while and

catch up every once. I haven't actively watched

the show in years now. I haven't either. But

that from 89 to 93, those years, like I had everything.

I had all the Bartman stuff. I had a Rambart

shirt when the whole Gulf War and all that. I

had Rambart shirts. I had Icaramba shirts. My

mom got me every Bart Simpson t -shirt she could

find. Like, it was just Simpsons mania was everything.

And like you said, the show was amazing. 1990.

1990. Honorable mention to a Disney afternoon

show, Tailspin, which goes back to Tales of the

Gold Monkey. Because Tailspin was basically Tales

of the Gold Monkey, but with the Jungle Book

characters. Yep. And Shere Khan is Lex Luthor.

Yes, he was. And no knock on Clancy Brown, but

Shere Khan was great on that show. He was an

awesome Lex Luthor. He was so cool. And it was

a fun show to watch. I was in college at this

point. I would watch it when I come home from

class. But I'm going with Twin Peaks. I went

to college. I was up in the mountains in upstate

New York. And we couldn't really get broadcast

TV very well. And cable was expensive. And the

whole thing was, like, I literally, for some

reason, I had a cable. So we could, like, and

they didn't expect people to have their own cables.

So, you know, if you plugged into the wall, you

could have cable TV. Terry Franklin. Here. Martha

Grimes. Here. Donna Hayward. Here. Audrey Horn.

Here. James Hurley. You. Excuse me. Room 106?

Mm -hmm. Is there a Bobby Briggs in this classroom?

No, um, he's in 107? 107. Could I speak to you

for a moment, please? Certainly. Um, there's

a... Mm -hmm. It's making an announcement. But,

like, the problem is I didn't have a TV. We had

to negotiate this thing with the girl who had

the TV. And the problem was, I remember one time

when Twin Peaks was on, they wanted to watch

something else. So we were scrambling around

the dorm trying to find someone who would let

us use their TV. Eventually we did it. Twin Peaks,

that first season especially, we were glued to

the set. To go back to The Simpsons, there's

that great moment where he's like, That's damn

fine coffee you got here in Twin Peaks. And damn

good cherry pie. Brilliant! I have absolutely

no idea what's going on. Season 2 was a little

tougher to stick with, but the final couple episodes

were really good. I even watched the movie. I

have not watched Return of the Twin Peaks yet.

I have it on disc, but I just haven't gotten

around to it yet. At the time, I really enjoyed

that show. And Fine Coffee. And the music. You

always talk about the music. The music was great.

It was very weird and haunting. Yeah, absolutely.

I was 10 years old when Twin Peaks came out.

It was too much for me at the time, so I never

really got into it. Sure. So you talked about

The Cosby Show. Yes. So this is my pervert entry.

Okay. 1991, Ren and Stimpy. Ah, yes. Don Kirk's

Felicity. But that first season, man. Like, again,

I was in college. As I kind of established, TVs

weren't not easy to come by. There was one in

the commons, in the cafeteria. And it was weird

because it was in this weird little nook with

a table. And we would go and we would, you know,

we would go there and we would watch Ren and

Snippy every, I don't know if it was Saturday

or Sunday. Look at you, man. You're a full -grown

cat, still watching cartoons. Why, you're three

years old. Do you know what that is in human

ears? Oh, listen to me, man. I'm your friend.

Don't you know cartoons will ruin your mind?

Look what it's done to your brain. Whenever it

would come on, we would watch it at the cafeteria.

And I just, you know, E .P., I'm so angry. I

love it. I love your sneaky little litter. Look

how I love it. I'm the cat. Just that first season

was just brilliant and anarchic, and then the

later episodes weren't as good because they got

rid of Kirk's jealousy, and then he got the show

back and made, like, just terrible, terrible

disturbing stuff for Spike TV. Yeah, that was

bad. But man, 1991. Yeah. You can never take

that away from us. Nope. 1992 is, again, like,

every day for dinner, we would bum -rush the

cafeteria and we would seize the table with the

TV so that we could watch Batman the Animated

Series. Lame. Not funny. Been done. Too Riddler.

What? Harley? Where the heck have you been? Batman,

eh? You don't say. You have who tied up where?

I remember we were talking about the Two -Face

episode when he's running through the... the

factory with all the acid, and then a guy shoots

a machine gun into the acid, and the acid explodes.

We're at a movie theater. People are trying to

have dinner, and we're just cheering and yelling

and acting like fools. I love that show. We talked

about it a lot on your episode, so I don't really

need to belabor it. No, I mean, say what you

want to say about it. We said a lot on your episode.

It's great. It was a kickoff to the DC animated

universe. Kevin Conroy is Batman. Yep. Camel

is the Joker. In my opinion, aside from Penguin

and Catwoman, almost every character on that

show was the definitive, iconic version of that

character. Mm -hmm. This is Kevin Conroy, and

I am the goddamn Batman. I must say, Batsy, I'm

flattered. The end of the world, and you want

to spend it with me. I didn't know you cared.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. I care, Joker, about

Gotham, about justice. And if it has to end,

at least I go out like this, being Batman. Absolutely.

93, Year of Jurassic Park. Another honorable

mention to Frasier, which was my original choice.

Tell me you would have handled it differently,

Frasier. Oh, I'm sorry, Niles. I didn't realize

you'd stop talking. Frasier has left the building.

Because I love Frasier. That's my style of humor.

Kind of witty, toity, sophisticated, a little

less fart joke, a little more think about it

kind of joke. But, you know, I love that they

had... David Hyde Pierce was great because the

idea was that Frasier was such a kind of pompous,

stuck -up guy that they made an even more pompous,

stuck -up guy to, you know... counterbalance

him. And then Martin was great as the dad. I,

I really liked that show, but I, I was like,

Oh wait, this, this is on my list. What year

did this come out? Oh, 93. Oh, I'm sorry, Frazier.

I really like you, but I absolutely love homicide

life on the street. I believe I've mentioned

that a couple of times in the Columbo episodes.

It takes place in Baltimore. It's a police. Unit,

Detective Unit. Again, I said Worf was one of

my favorite characters. My favorite character

from TV of all time. Tied with Columbo is Frank

Pembleton, played by Andre Brauer, the fantastic

actor Andre Brauer, who was amazing and intense

and brilliant. This is another one I said that

was like St. Us, where I watched the whole series.

I watched the whole series for this. I watched

the TV movie that wrapped everything up, which

was, again, brilliant. No, no, no, no, no. The

suspect is asleep. Oh yeah, he's been in the

room for four hours. Rule number four. A guilty

man left in the box alone falls asleep. Are there

any other rules? Yeah. Uncooperative. Too cooperative.

Talks too much. Talks too little. Blinks. Stares.

Gets his story straight. Messes his story up.

There are no other rules. It's an expression.

Yeah, I'm here. So you're going to interrogate

him? Interrogate him? Yeah, yeah. I'm just saying,

you know, not a partner thing, but when you interrogate

him, I'd like to sit in. Then what you will be

privileged to witness will not be an interrogation,

but an act of salesmanship. As silver -tongued

and thieving as ever moved used cars, Florida

swampland, or Bibles. But what I am selling is

a long prison term to a client who has no genuine

use for the product. So that's a yes. It's a

great show. Robin Williams had an episode where

he showed up as the father of a kid who got killed.

He was friends with Barry Levinson, who was the

producer of the show. I cannot... It's one of

those... I think the wire has sucked up all the

oxygen from that whole genre. Yeah. Homicide

was a great show. It was brilliant. 94... 94ER.

Michael Crichton's medical drama. You know, like,

it was one of those, like, yeah, I couldn't not

pick ER because there wasn't anything I liked

better, and I watched the hell out of the show.

I was a big fan. Young Alex Kingston, who, before

she became River Song, Goose was the main character

from Top Gun. Freaking what's -his -name, who

left the series early but became the biggest

star in Hollywood who's never had a hit film.

Oh, um... God. Ruined Batman. Ruined Batman?

He was the fourth Batman. Oh, Clooney. Yeah,

George Clooney. I'm old, people. I forget names.

This is why Superman works alone. Feeling better?

Yeah. I'll be okay in a minute. It just got to

me all of a sudden. Keep your head down. There's

no rush. Just relax. It stopped raining. I thought

I was going to be sick. I'm sorry. Don't ever

say you're sorry. See, there's two kinds of doctors.

There's the kind that gets rid of their feelings

and the kind that keeps them. If you're going

to keep your feelings, you're going to get sick

from time to time. That's just how it works.

Keep your head down. People come in here and

they're sick. and dying and bleeding. And they

need our help. And helping them is more important

than how we feel. But it's still a pain in the

ass sometimes. Sometimes I just want to quit

and do something else. Why don't you take a few

more minutes? By the way, I was in medical school

with that... He used to get sick all the time.

So don't let him give you any crap. Yeah, you

did. He's gonna press charges? I doubt it. I

don't think he wants his friends to know that

he let a pediatrician beat him up. He's got other

problems. A couple of detectives from domestic

violence talking to him in the lounge right now.

God, it's freezing out here. I won't say I'm

sorry because I'm not. Then don't. So what happens

now? I had to tell Morgenstern what happened.

What did he say? He wasn't very happy. I think

you're looking at inkblots, couch time, probably

resident review committee. Your friend's still

here. What? The brunette. She's waiting for you

at admitting. I'm heading home. Tell Rachel happy

birthday. It's her birthday, right? Yeah, I was

supposed to be there an hour ago. Jennifer's

going to kill me. Tell her it's my fault. I always

do. Well, you said the fourth Batman, so I was

like, oh, right, Clooney. Yeah, the fourth Batman.

He personally, he's the one who says he ruined

the Batman franchise, not me. No, he does. I

agree with him, but like, yeah, ER is a good

show. I liked it. I enjoyed it. There's, there

are a couple of these on the list that like,

it's like, you know, again, the idea is it's

your favorite from that year. So 1995 was another

choice, but this one was like, like usually there's

like, when I'm stuck between choices, it's like

an A tier choice, but this one's more like B

tier choices. Next up is Sliders, which also

has John Rhys Davies as Professor Arturo. I think

it was Jerry O 'Connell who develops a device

that allows them to jump between worlds and then

they get lost. They're trying to get back to

their own home world. The first season was fun.

I believe the second season was still pretty

good. Then it went to Sci -Fi Channel and they

got rid of everybody and added this weird plot

about aliens or something. Evolved Neanderthals

who were evil. I don't know. Who do you think

these people are, Professor? It's a real puzzle,

isn't it? On our Earth, man and dinosaur separated

by at least 65 million years. Now, sliding is

never time travel. So the real question is not

so much who these men are, but what on Earth

dinosaurs are doing in the last twilight of the

20th century. Yeah, I thought they always preferred

the warmer climates. Well, there's no conclusive

evidence that they were cold -blooded. Perhaps

they could live in any climate. Well, wasn't

a comet supposed to have raised some kind of

dust cloud that killed all the dinosaurs? Maybe

it missed the Earth here. Possible. In any event,

if dinosaurs are the dominant life form on this

Earth, it'll be interesting to see what's happened

to the humans. Who are you? National Dinosaur

Preserve Ranger. I like the first two seasons.

They were fun. There's one with an Allosaurus.

My choice is actually News Radio. Phil Hartman,

Joe Rogan. I keep forgetting the guy's name,

but he's been... He wasn't as big a star at this

point, but he got bigger. He's on King of the

Hill. He voices Bill on King of the Hill. The

guy from Office Space who had the stapler. You

know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Steven Root.

Steven Root. Yeah, Steven Root. Steven Root was

the owner of the station. Jimmy Johns, I think.

Jimmy Johnson or something. Melanie, I'm single.

You're single. What do you say we get married?

Well, I'm glad you finally decided on the direct

approach. Yeah, well, I'm a businessman at heart.

As am I. What's your offer? Single rich male

seeks matrimony. Primary residence? Westchester

County. Would you be open to considering a secondary

residence in Manhattan? Central Park West? South.

Done. Time spent together? Eight hours, five

days a week. Seven hours, twelve hours weekends.

Fifty -five hours aggregate, specifics to be

determined later. I'm amenable to that. Children?

One. Three. Two. Done. Not one of them has to

be a male. I'll see what I can do. Vacations.

December, Hawaii. June, the Vineyard. June, fine,

but Hawaii. Nope, the Vineyard. Is that a deal

breaker for you? I'm afraid so. Me too. Well,

we gave it a shot. I'm sure you'll find a better

match. Thanks for the time. And Dave Foley was

the main character. I think he's the most underrated

kid from the hall. Yep. It was a fun show. It

was also Phil Hartman's last thing that he did.

He died during it, and they brought in John Lovitz.

I also had Andy Dick, and there's a famous thing

about apparently John Lovitz apparently lashed

out at Andy Dick for reasons. But I really liked

that show. It was a fun show. I did not know

Rogan was on this show. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I believe it predates Fear Factor. He was kind

of a mechanic, but like the technical guy, the

technician. Yeah. And yeah, Phil died May 28th

of 98. So he died just shortly after the show.

No, no, they had a whole season. They had a whole

season with him. Yeah, yeah. I just remember

there's a famous, not a famous episode, but an

episode that I remember very fondly where they

get a review in a magazine and they call Phil

Hartman's character adequate. And he doesn't

seem to understand that it's like... Not an insult

per se, but he takes it as a huge compliment.

And at one point someone goes like, how are you

doing? He's like, I'm bursting with adequatulence.

I love that line. And it turns out it was Steven

Root who wrote the review. He owns the radio

station. He owns the magazine. He gets called

out for it. And he's like, well, aside from accidentally

screwing up, messing with Bill, Bill Hartman's

character. I think I did it. It was a pretty

fair review. That's funny. It was a good show

that I don't think. Yeah, it's a very good show.

Yeah, it was one of those that never really took

off, which is sad. And I think part of that is

because Hartman. They lost Hartman. Yeah, I think

it's... Isn't that the show where he's got the

secretary named Melanie? Maybe? No, I'm thinking

of a different show. Okay. I think I'm thinking

of Just Shoot Me. Maybe. Yeah. Anyway, never

mind. I'm thinking of something else. 96. 96

is The Daily Show. Don Stewart. Well, I was going

to say, I actually watched this from the very

beginning. It was Craig Kilborn. Oh, okay. A

moment of zen and five questions and Final Jeopardy.

And then it became Trivial Compromise because

they got sued. Yeah. And I was there when Stewart

took over. And I remember the week that Stewart

took over, when they had that interview segment

with the guests, they would do five questions.

On Monday, Stewart asked five questions. On Tuesday,

he asked four. Wednesday, he asked three. By

Friday, it was one question, and they didn't

do that anymore. That literally took over for

a long time. I watched that instead of the news.

What I liked about Stewart was he obviously had

a point of view, but he was also a comedian.

He would not let He would not let his point of

view get in the way of his instincts. But if

somebody on his side screwed up, he would smack

them. Oh, yeah. He wouldn't cover for them. If

they screwed up, he would smack them because

he's a comedian. And, you know, part of comedy

is honesty. I like that about him. Yep. He was

happier when he went after the other side, but,

like, he didn't cover for his side back in the

day. Yeah, exactly. Of 1997. We're still on Comedy

Central. Because we are going down to South Park

and have ourselves a time. Humble folks without

temptation. I really used to love this show.

It's all a bunch of tree -hugging hippie crap.

I think after the first couple of seasons, the

first couple of seasons were rough. Once it really

found its voice, it was brilliant. It kind of

took over for The Simpsons in terms of commentary,

social commentary. Oh, yeah. And my favorite

thing, they really only ever did it in the first

season. too much, but like, they would do these

jokes where like, Kenny would deliver the punchline

and you'd have to figure it out by everybody's

reaction. It says she wants to meet me at Stark's

Pond after school. Well, maybe you can kiss her

or slip her the tongue. What? How do you know

she has a cat? And those were some of my favorite

jokes. It was like, they were teasing Stan about

Wendy. Like, are you going to kiss her? Are you

going to slip her the tongue? How do you know

she has a cat? I love those. There were too few

of those. Yeah. I just recently watched the...

It's a little old now, but I watched the documentary

about how they bought Casa Bonita. That money

pit. Man, that was like... If things had worked

out differently, I might have... gone there at

one point before they bought it and I'm like

looking at like the air ducts full of dirt and

it's like I'm glad that things fell apart with

that podcast because good lord but it is you

know I remember the Casa Bonita episode particularly

that was a great episode where they kidnapped

Butters and tells him the world ended so he can

take his place at Casa Bonita yeah It was a great

show. They just got $1 .5 billion to bring it

back. That's right. The only thing I remember

from the early days of South Park... Again, this

is 1997. I was 17 years old. I was... I don't

even know what I was watching then. All I know

is... I think this would be your wheelhouse,

because, like, ten -year -olds are like edgelords.

Okay, well... I... I don't know. I was just more

focused on school stuff at the time. Like, I

was a nerd. Nerd. Yeah, nerd. Yeah, I was one

of those kinds of kids where I was just like...

I just want to get through school. I just want

to graduate. The only thing to this day outside

of one other film that Trey did, well, they both

did it, but I'll say in a minute, but there's

two things I remember about South Park. Once

this happened, radio stations would use this

clip everywhere from Cartman. And then I remember

basketball. So, basketball is the film I remember.

But as soon as Cartman said, knock off all this

tree -hugging hippie crap. As soon as he said

the tree -hugging hippie crap line, radio stations

in 97, 98, whenever it happened, they would play

that line. And I just remember that to this day

all the time. And then whenever it was, I think,

close to the end of the movie, when Trey Parker's

character, I forget what the name of the character

is in the movie, but Trey Parker, he basically

turns into the Cartman voice and just starts

using the Cartman voice against the guy to get

him to flinch out and get him to psych out. And

I'm like, oh, right. These are the South Park

guys. It's their movie. pull out the voices to

get at least one seat. And I'm like, okay, cool.

And I never really kept, like, I don't dislike

South Park. I like what I remember watching of

South Park. I just never watched enough of it.

Like, I think the most of it that I watched was

a lot of the chef scenes. And then obviously

when Isaac passed, I started seeing a lot of

those clips because, you know, as soon as somebody

dies, you see all their stuff. Recently again,

folks, you're going to hear this in the future,

but we're recording this just, you know, a couple

weeks, a little less than a month since Malcolm

Jamal Warner passed. I'm seeing all his Cosby

show and all this other clips that he's done

in his career for Malcolm Jamal Warner. So it

is what it is. Like I said, South Park was cool

as hell. I just have a weird track record of

watching stuff. I kind of feel a little defensive

right now. I talk about my mom a lot. I'm going

to mention that my dad was not in the picture

at this point. I will get to that reason in a

little bit. My mom was a big part of my life

and I'm an only child. We're both only children,

yes. I've had people go, you talk about your

mom a lot. Who the fuck else am I going to talk

about in my childhood, you know? It was like,

this is the person I interacted with. Yeah. But,

like, I remember they had the famous Cartman

bit where, like, they were going to find out

who his dad was. Mm -hmm. And then, like, the

week after that, it was not without my anus.

It was the Terrence and Philip show. And I remember

my mom was at a grocery store checking out, and

she heard these girls behind her talking, like,

I can't believe they blah, blah, blah, blah,

blah, blah, blah. My mom turns around and goes,

You do realize that aired on April 1st, right?

Oh, no. Like, my mom got the joke. And there

was another one where, like, they did the alien

Gonzalez thing. Because, you know, nowadays it's

relatively famous and well -known that they have

a very quick turnaround time. Yes. I don't think

it was as well, because my mom refused to believe

that they did that. She's like, there's no way

that they had the agents come in and point the

guns at the kid in the cabinet. They couldn't

have done that. That just happened, David. And

I'm like, I saw the show! I don't know what to

tell you! Now it's famous that they do a very

quick turnaround, but my mom would not believe

that they did an Alien Gonzalez joke. That was

the one with the Russian, not the Russian, but

the Eastern Bloc gymnast girls that the kids

were trying to basically kidnap to create their

own circus. Oh my god. 1998. Yes, sir. There

was a show on BBC and they got on Comedy Central

and they showed it during the daytime all the

time. And I fell in love with it. I watched it

all the time. I thought it was brilliant. I loved

it. And then in 1998, ABC with Drew Carey did

their own version of it. Whose line is it anyway?

An improv comedy show with Drew Carey, with Colin

Mochrie, with Ryan... What was his last name

again? Stiles. Ryan Stiles, and of course the

American version had Wayne Brady. Brady, that's

right. That man, I can't sing, period. That man

could create a song out of nothing. I love that

show. I remember the episode when they had, it

was either the second or third season, they had

Robin Williams again, and it was great because

he was like, oh, look at all the people tuning

in from Friends. What Robin Williams is thinking

right now. I have a career. What the hell am

I doing? But yeah, I love that show. I guess

they had a thing for it in Disney World, and

I never got to see that, and I was always sad

because they had a big poster or thing up on

the wall for whose line it is anyway. I'm like,

oh, I see that. I love that show. I love Colin.

I love Ryan. Those two together are like fire.

Yeah. 1999, The West Wing. Well, you know, it's

weird. I feel like, I believe the character's

name was Josiah Bartlett. Hey folks, TFG1 Mike

here. Really quick, the character's name played

by Martin Sheen is Jed Bartlett, not Josiah.

Sorry, we sometimes get shit screwed up around

here. Now, here's the infamous speech, or one

of them, that the president in the West Wing

has said in the show. Enjoy, and now, Back to

the podcast. I'm sorry. You're Dr. Jenna Jacobs,

right? Yes, sir. It's good to have you here.

Thank you. The awesome impact of the airwaves

and how that translates into the furthering of

our national discussions, but obviously also

how it can, how it can... Forgive me, Dr. Jacobs.

Are you an MD? A PhD. A PhD. Yes, sir. In psychology?

No, sir. Theology? No. Social work? I have a

Ph .D. in English literature. I'm asking because

on your show people call in for advice, and you

go by the name Dr. Jacobs on your show, and I

didn't know if maybe your listeners were confused

by that and assumed you had advanced training

in psychology, theology, or health care. I don't

believe they are confused, no, sir. Good. I like

your show. I like how you call homosexuality

an abomination. I don't say homosexuality is

an abomination, Mr. President. The Bible does.

Yes, it does. Leviticus. 1822. Chapter and verse.

I wanted to ask you a couple of questions while

I had you here. I'm interested in selling my

youngest daughter into slavery, a sanction in

Exodus 21 -7. She's a Georgetown sophomore, speaks

fluent Italian, always cleared the table when

it was her turn. What would a good price for

her be? While thinking about that, can I ask

another? My chief of staff, Leo McGarry, insists

on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35 .2 clearly

says he should be put to death. Am I morally

obligated to kill him myself, or is it okay to

call the police? Here's one that's really important,

because we've got a lot of sports fans in this

town. Touching the skin of a dead pig makes one

unclean. Leviticus 11 .7. If they promise to

wear gloves, can the Washington Redskins still

play football? Can Notre Dame? Can West Point?

Does the whole town really have to be together

to stone my brother John for planting different

crops side by side? Can I burn my mother in a

small family gathering for wearing garments made

from two different threads? Think about those

questions, would you? One last thing. While you

may be mistaking this for your monthly meeting

of the... Ignorant, tight -ass club. In this

building, when the president stands, nobody sits.

The thing is, I like fantasy. I like Lord of

the Rings. I like Thunder the Barbarian. And

I like the West Wing. Like, Isaiah Bartlett is

the Democrat. Not even Democrat. I think the

politician. We all wish politicians were and

aren't. He's noble. He's intelligent. He does

the right thing because it's the right thing

to do. He's got character flaws that make him

interesting. You watch the show and you're like,

why aren't real politicians? Why are they all

scumbags? Especially the first couple seasons,

I really enjoyed the show. It's funny because

he was not supposed to be as big a character

as he turned out to be. The president, yeah.

He was supposed to be this unseen figure for

the most part. It's the same thing with Star

Trek. It's like, well, the president's the most

important guy. You've got to have him on the

show. But fortunately, they cast Martin Sheen,

who's a fantastic actor. Yes. And it also had

Eddie Carr from Jurassic Park, which is why when

Lost World came out, I was like, oh, no, Eddie

Carr got ripped in half. Oh, no. Although this

came out after Jurassic World. After Jurassic

World. Lost World, yeah. So the funny thing about

these two shows, before we move into the new

millennium, I see, again, because I'm on Instagram

and Facebook reels all the time, I sometimes

see the Drew Carey season clips, but I see the

Aisha Tyler clips more. And I see Ryan and Colin

doing all kinds of stuff. I see Wayne and a few

of the other guest hosts and whatever do stuff.

The West Wing clip I see come up all the time

now for some odd reason is the clip where they're

trying to quote the Bible to him about where

he can't do something. That's the very first

episode. Okay. Thank you for explaining it to

me because I've never seen a single episode of

the show. I'll set it up for you. It's the very

first episode and these guys are very pious.

We're religious guys and we believe in God. Then

he comes in in the middle of that and quotes

the Bible because he's studied religion. He wanted

to be a priest. The character wanted to be a

priest. Just completely punks them. Yeah, and

then the woman says something, and then he says

something back to her about, oh, well, can I

do this with my daughter? Blah, blah, blah, blah,

blah. And he goes through this whole thing. Right,

yeah, yeah, yeah. And he goes through this whole

thing. No, because he enters the room, and he

goes, I am thy lord, thy god. Yes, yes. Which

is how they first meet the character. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah. I was like, damn, okay, well. I'm not really

one... Have I watched political -based television

in my 45 years of this planet? Yes. But it's

not really my thing. But damn, I'm like, maybe

I should kind of be watching the West Wing. Oh,

there's a great... I just remember there's a

great episode. The actress who played his secretary

died in real life. They wrote it into the show

that she died in a car crash. And there was this

whole thing where he was being attacked for something.

I can't even remember. He's getting a lot of

attacks for something else. And the whole thing

is like his secretary has been like kind of almost

like a mother figure to him has died. Right.

And he gives her eulogy at like the big cathedral

in Washington. And there's this horrible thunderstorm.

And it's literally like he's basically telling

all the people coming after him like, fuck off.

He's doing it in this eulogy form. And it's this

amazing speech. And the heavens are roaring and

it's. I mean, when it was great, it was great.

Yeah. Very cool, very cool. We enter the new

millennium. 2000. Hoot Gibson. Hoot Hoot. No,

I'm sorry. I always do that with the theme song.

CSI. Crime Scene Investigation. I think it was

William Peterson? Yes, yes. Well, he was from

Manhunter. I remember if he was from Manhunter.

Grissom, yeah. This is not a show that I kind

of watched when it came out, but I got into it

in reruns again. Hey, guess what? Mankind has

reached a new evolutionary plateau, and starting

tomorrow, no one will rape, murder, or maim again.

Uh, no. Too bad. We were both right. That's a

federal offense, you know. I went down a rabbit

hole of like, you know. I think it kind of fell

off a little bit when he left because I liked

him. Again, it's not one that I feel very strongly

about. It's just I had a pick in 2000 and I like

CSI. And they had the Mythbusters one episode

as background characters. Yeah, so this show,

I'm trying to remember where this was. When they

debuted this show, this was another one of those

things of, hmm, I wonder what I'm going to watch.

Is it this or something else kind of thing? And

I think this was the first. I want to just make

sure I'm. This was the first thing I really noticed

him in. But then as I would watch stuff, I ended

up going back. He was the father in 1996 film

Fear opposite Mark Wahlberg. He played the dad

in that of the girl that Mark Wahlberg's character

was stalking. And he was also Secret Service

agent Richard Chance in the 1985 film made into

a film by the book To Live and Die in L .A. So

in that movie in 85, which is 40 years old this

year, To Live and Die in L .A., He plays opposite...

It's not Voight. It's... Who's in that? Is it

Taggart? I think it's Taggart. Yeah. No, it's

John Pankow. John Turturro is in it. Also, Willem

Dafoe plays the villain of the book in that movie.

But anyway, William Peterson. Ever since seeing

CSI, I've loved that guy. Just absolutely love

him. He's so cool. Like I said, he was also in

Red Dragon, which I mentioned during my Silence

of the Lambs. No, it wasn't Red Dragon, it was

Manhunter. It was Michael Mann from Miami Vice's

adaptation of Red Dragon. Brian Cox was Hannibal

Lecter. It was good. It was pretty good. 2001.

So when we were doing your list, we talked about

Survivor and Big Brother. And I watched both

of those. The thing about Survivor is after the

third episode, they're all dirty, they're all

starving, they're all miserable. Yeah. Unless

you really hate, and I do really hate people,

which is weird, but unless you really, really

hate people, it's just not fun. The year after

that came with The Amazing Race. I really liked

that show early on. It was always moving. You're

always going to a different location, doing things.

It was like Survivor or Big Brother, but the

scenery always changed. It was exciting. Phil

Keegan was a good host. I just remember there

was one year where the final lap was in this

one couple's hometown. And so he started driving

around weirdly randomly to throw off the people

that were following him. And they were like,

well, that's not where you're supposed to go.

So they went to the finish line. He's fucking

around over here trying to throw them off the

trail. And they went to the finish line and won.

Oh, no. That's hilarious. I really, really like

that show. I think it's still going, too. Oh,

they're all still going, I'm sure. It's reality

TV for you. Oh, it's cheap to make. That's the

advantage. 2002. 2002. This one I think is an

underrated... It's weird. People who know it

like it, but it doesn't get talked about as much

as some of the other Cartoon Network shows. It's

Codenames Kid Next Door. Oh, yeah. I think it's

a great show. It's got incredibly deep lore.

It's got great episodes. It's very fun. It's

got a lot of smart little details underneath

the surface. Yay, strawberries! That was close.

Now, where were we? Okay, talk. We know you're

hoarding all the soft serve in your ice cream

factory. We also know there's a defense system

to keep us kids out. What's the password? I don't...

It's Frosty! The password's Frosty! Sickies.

Okay, number one, you might want to check this

out. A roadblock. Quick, tell number four to

turn the truck around. I am number four. And

it had, like, every character, when they would

have a spotlight episode, they each had their

own kind of, like, feel and theme to it. Right.

I just remember that number five, things were

always Indiana Jones -type adventures. where,

you know, number twos always were like these

goofy 80s comedy adventures. You know, and then

they had, like, number two's brother was the

Tommy. The Tommy? The Tommy! Because he was rejected

by the kid next door, so he went rogue and became

the Tommy. And they had a TV movie that was number

zero, which was fantastic. It should have been

the finale. The finale was still pretty good.

But it should have been the finale. It's a great

show. It's overlooked. Because, I mean, Courage

is a great show. Dexter's Lab is a good show.

Like, a lot of Cartoon Network stuff is pretty

decent. The original Powerpuff Girls was good.

But Code Name Kid Next Door was, like, a gem.

Absolutely. 2003. Am I missing an eyebrow? Mythbusters.

I love Mythbusters. There was this whole genre

that I really enjoyed. Mythbusters really wasn't

one of them, but you go and you build a thing.

Like Junkyard Wars and all these kind of things.

I like that. I like Mythbusters. I always enjoyed

when they would tackle movies. They did Batman.

They were like, can you actually use the grappling

gun to make a corner like the Batmobile does?

Apparently, no. There was not anything with the

tensile strength to do that. They did Jaws. They

went down to the Caribbean and filmed them messing

with sharks. That was a great one. The Jaws one

was great. They wanted to see if you could punch

a shark in the nose and make it go away. Oh,

no. So they built a little robot. Well, they

built a robot to do it because it's not safe.

But they needed a fist. Fortunately, they were

located out of San Francisco. And Carrie goes

into a store to get a couple of rubber fists,

which they had because it's San Francisco. I

had a crush on Carrie Byron. The Farallon Islands

lie 27 miles off the coast of San Francisco.

They're as jagged as the teeth of the great whites

that prowl these waters. With Adam still out

of action, Jamie deploys the decoys. Then there's

nothing to do but wait and talk big fish. Sean

Van Summeren is an expert on great whites. He's

seen their incredible power and speed. I've seen

two -and -a -half -ton white sharks come flying

out of the water and bite 50, 60 -pound bites

out of elephant seals and things like that, things

that impress me as a hugely powerful animal.

In terms of withstanding repeated point -blank

shots to the head and dragging several barrels

under it for days on end and sinking boats and

plucking crewmen off the deck and things like

that, it's pretty fanciful. A great white speed

has never been clocked. However, during aerial

maneuvers like this, it's estimated they travel

between 20 and 25 miles per hour. Unfortunately

for the Mythbusters, the Farallon sharks are

keeping a much lower profile. Maybe the decoys

aren't to their taste. Looks like it's on to

plan B. And I remember, I was always sad because

they did one on zombies. I wish they had done

a thing where they'd rigged up a set of teeth

to bite with the force that a human's bite can

manage. Let's talk about the bite force of these

animals. T -Rex is a bite force of blah, blah,

blah. And to see what kind of fabrics a human

could actually bite through. I don't know that

I could bite through a leather jacket. I don't

know. Like, I wish they'd done that. They did

not. But, like, I really enjoyed that show. I

don't know if I learned anything or not. I mean,

if I'm falling from something, I know that throwing

a hammer in front of me will not break the surface

tension of the water. I mean, I guess that's

good. And then I followed Buster's, you know,

from the building him to, like, when he was just

a tattered piece of, you know. It was a good

show. It was fun. I don't know. Those kinds of

shows where they... To me, and obviously this

is true, but to me, there's a difference in seeing

something like Back to the Future behind the

scenes of how they actually did it. versus myth

busters could this actually be done whereas the

behind the scenes is hey this is how we pulled

this off so you know yeah well yeah exactly like

yeah but myth busters is more like could this

actually be done in real life should this actually

be done in real life the answer is most definitely

no kind of thing but it's nice to see people

actually teaching you that hey no moron this

even though we're learning here so yeah no i

i like seeing that kind of stuff i i didn't watch

a lot of mythbusters but i watched a few episodes

and this is very much a learning experience and

it's like you know hey kids don't try this at

home because it ain't gonna freaking work 2004

there are those who say that life here began

out there among the stars which is actually the

intro for the other Battlestar Galactica, but

Battlestar Galactica, the reboot. All right,

fire up that main battery. Damn you, Lee. Keep

working on those FTLs. Get them online. Sure.

Cylons will redeploy as soon as they recover.

Thank you, Lee. This one's interesting because

I saw the miniseries and I didn't really love

it. And then it took me a little while. I kind

of resisted. I didn't watch the first year of

it. And then I eventually got into it after the

fact. And I got into it. It was cool. It was

a neat updating of the original series. It took

it more seriously. A sci -fi, more character

drama. Edward James Olmos as Adama was fantastic.

I like his relationship with... What's her name?

Who was the... She was the Secretary of Education,

and then the annihilation of the human race happened,

so she became president. Laura Roslin was the

character's name. I can't remember the actress.

The ending was a little kind of iffy, but I liked

that they mixed all this religion, and they brought

back... Oh, man, I'm doing the old man thing

again. They brought back the original Apollo.

The actor who played the original Apollo, and

he became Tom Zarek, who was like a... an antagonist,

and there's a great moment where he's a prisoner

on a prisoner barge, and he takes over the prisoner

barge, and they send Apollo in. The original

Apollo tells the story of Apollo to Apollo. That's

not confusing at all. The only thing they couldn't

have topped, the only thing they could have topped

is that they'd gotten Dirk Benedict to do something.

Starbuck was a good character, and the whole

sequence on New Caprica, the whole... rescue

of New Caprica is the most amazing goddamn sequence

just in any sci -fi show ever. Uh, you know,

Daniel Lee, you know, cause he brings in the

Pegasus and like to like protect the, the black

is going to be destroyed. Lee brings in the Pegasus,

which was supposed to stay behind and saves them.

And it's just, the music was great. Bear McCreary.

Uh, yep. It's the first I ever heard of him.

I just saw him on Red Letter Media. He's kind

of a cool dude. He's a very talented musician.

Battleship Galactica was the only thing that

really hurt it was that they would blow the budget

once a year on the big space battles. So everything

else had to be bottle episodes. But they were

good bottle episodes, generally. Yeah. Mary MacDonald.

Mary MacDonald as Lauren Rosland. Yep, yep. Alright,

where are we now? 2005. Yes, the Fire Nation

attacks. Avatar, The Last Airbender. This is

the original Nicktoon series. Previously on Avatar.

We ran away. And then the Fire Nation attacked

our temple. My people needed me and I wasn't

there to help. I'm done dwelling on the past.

I'm here now and I'm going to make the most of

it. Commander Zhao, I've been hunting the Avatar

for two years and I - And you failed! This is

not the Netflix series. This is not the movie.

We speak not of the movie. Yes, yes, we don't

speak of the blue people. We got it, we got it.

No, no, no, no, no, no. This isn't the blue people.

What's his name? I know, that's what I'm saying.

What twist guy did a movie based on Avatar The

Last Airbender? Cameron. Yeah. Unbreakable. That

guy. Yeah. Shyamalan. Shyamalan did a movie version

of this. Not Cameron. Okay. If you've ever watched

the movie, you know it's clearly not Cameron.

The point being, this was a great cartoon. Oh,

and also not Korra. Korra screwed everything

up and was terrible. The whole thing is, there

was two guys that created the show, and they

got all the credit. It's kind of like a Star

Trek situation, where the two guys who created

the show got all the credit, but there was a

third guy who actually made the show good, and

then he left after the original run. They did

Korra. They're like Roddenberry. They get all

the credit, but nobody remembers Gene Coon, who

actually created the Federation, and the Klingons,

and the Prime Directive. Little unimportant things

about Star Trek. Oh, it's Roddenberry. It's Roddenberry.

Yeah, the original series, like, the first season

is okay. It's a kids' TV show. It's action -adventure.

And what's fascinating for me about this is it's

clearly a show aimed at, like, 13 -year -old

boys, right? It's an American -made anime kind

of thing with kung fu action. All the different

cultures are very Eastern -oriented. The airbenders

are Tibet, the fire nation is Japan, the earth

nation is China, and then the water nations are

the two Inuits. But the first season is kind

of enjoyable. There's a larger story taking place.

The second and third seasons is fire. It's amazing.

They get their act together. They tell a cohesive

story. Zuko is one of the greatest characters

ever, but he's eclipsed by his uncle Eero, who

is one of the greatest characters ever. Imagine

Dumbledore, but a cool martial arts badass. Nice,

nice. And that was Mako's final role, and sadly

he died. It's so good. Then they were like, let's

make a movie out of it. Let's get M. Night Shyamalan.

That was bad. First of all, they cast all the

characters as white kids. The one time it would

be appropriate. It's a great show. I love it.

I said it was made for 13 -year -old boys. In

2008, I went to the New York Comic Con. I went

to the Avatar panel. And it was filled with teenage

girls. The problem with the show is that it was

supposed to be a boy's show. There were Lego

sets. There were action figures. But it was girls

who really loved the show. And I think that kind

of caused Nickelodeon to want to sandbag it a

little bit. Because they couldn't advertise to

the right... The advertisers didn't want to...

Girl advertisers didn't want to advertise on

a boy's show. And I think that's why Korra...

The next Avatar was a girl, and it was all about

relationships. Get your relationships out of

my Avatar. You can have relationships, but the

whole four -way quadrangle nonsense. What they

did that really annoyed me is it was so cheap

and cowardly. In Legend of Korra, the last shot

of the last episode, so they couldn't be hurt

by it, Korra and Asami are together. They hold

hands. It's like, you cowards. You are going

for points for having your character be gay,

but you didn't want to do it when the show could

be cancelled. Yeah. That was gutless. Considering

they were both going for the same guy in the

first season, it's like, okay. We're going to

be progressive. We're just going to do it in

a way that we can't damage our show or hurt our

prospects going forward. Boo! Cowards. The original

Last Airbender is really good. Very cool. 2006

was a rough one. I've often said... You look

up stuff on Wikipedia. I look them up on IMDb.

And I get a list of about 50 entries. And then

I can go for more, right? 50 more. For 2006,

it was 50 more. 50 more. Oh, no. 50 more. Oh,

no. 50 more. And I finally, finally saw it. I

was like, yes! Who wants to be a superhero on

the Sci -Fi Channel? Stan Lee holds a contest

for real -life superheroes. And the winner will

get his own TV movie for Sci -Fi Channel and

apparently a comic book, which sort of happened.

Apparently the winner ended up on, like, as a

cameo on Megapython, I believe. Odd deal. Every

really good superhero has what's important on

the inside, and that's what we'll test you on.

What I remember the most, the thing I love most

about this was one of the guys got kicked off

the show. It came up that he had been a male

stripper. Oh, no. The funniest thing is, like,

Stan Lee is giving this big speech about how

superheroes have to be, you know, the paragons

of morality and, you know, just, you know, perfect

moral people. And we can't have a stripper. Meanwhile,

right literally behind him is this giant, wall

-sized picture of his character, Stripperella.

Oh, yeah. A stripper could never be a superhero.

This is like, uh... Stan, did you forget? Stan,

he's just catching the check, man. But I remember

watching that and enjoying it. And there was

literally nothing else that came out of it here

that I liked. Which is weird, because we got

a couple big ones after that. 2007. Mad Men.

This wouldn't seem like a show that I would like.

I mean, it's about weird... It's about advertising

agencies in the 60s. I bet daily friendship with

that bottle attracts more people to advertising

than any salary you could dream of. That's why

I got in. So enjoy it. I'm doing my best here.

You're not. You don't know how to drink your

whole generation. You drink for the wrong reasons.

My generation, we drink because it's good. Because

it feels better than unbuttoning your collar.

Because we deserve it. We drink because it's

what men do. What about shaky hands? I see a

lot of that, too, with you boys. No joke. You're

kind with your gloomy thoughts and your worries.

You're all busy licking some imaginary wound.

Not all imaginary. Yeah, boo -hoo. Maybe I'm

not as comfortable being powerless as you are.

Pardon? You know, you shouldn't compete with

Pete Campbell. I'm not. Yeah, you are. Not on

a personal level, but for the world. I don't

know. Maybe every generation thinks the next

one is the end of it all. I bet there are people

in the Bible... Walking around complaining about

kids today. Kids today, they have no one to look

up to. Because they're looking up to us. When

I got into this, the fact that the character's

name is Don Draper, I literally have an uncle

named Donald. Which made it really hard to try

to look him up at one point because everything

was bad. It's a great show. It's brilliantly

acted. The thing that I remember is the one season

ends with him giving a presentation to Kodak

for the carousel. Kodak Carousel. He does it

so well and it's so perfect. And then a later

season, everything's falling apart. and he tries

to do the same presentation again for something,

and you're like, oh, no, he's doing the carousel

again, and it's not working because he's all

screwed up. It's like, oh, no, it's so embarrassing.

It's so sad. Again, I think that's a great show.

Excellent acting, excellent characters. Somebody

gets their foot run over with a lawnmower. You

know, everything you want in a TV show. Yeah,

like you do. Like you do. Yep. Okay, 2008. Now,

you said... Cool. You talked about how you were

a dare kid. Yes, yes. I was not a dare kid, but

my father was an alcoholic, which is why almost

all my stories involve me and my mom. Okay. Because

dad kind of dipped out to, you know, it's an

important drinking done. So my point is, like,

yeah, you were a dare kid, but I've never smoked,

ever. I've had, maybe I can count on two hands

at this point, because I'm 50 -something, the

number of glasses of alcohol I've ever had in

my life. I think I've had gummies once, and they

made me really, really sick. I'm not into drugs.

I don't drink. I'm not into drugs. I don't smoke.

But the thing is, Breaking Bad is not about that.

It's not about the drugs. Jaws is not about the

shark. Right. It's about the characters. It's

about a guy who, at first season, you're feeling

sympathy for. You like him. You're rooting for

him. It's even a little wacky. And then by the

end, he's a fucking monster. He's the monster,

yeah. He's the one who knocks. Right. I understand

that now. And I understood that... And like I

said in my episode. You made your choices. Right.

It's fine. I did not shut down. I'm teasing.

I'm teasing. Yeah. No. And I understood that.

But and again, for those I don't know why people

haven't listened to my episode yet. But in case

you didn't, what I will say again is what I more

so meant was, was that. When I first saw before,

one of the reasons why I always avoided Breaking

Bad was I saw it as more so this guy is so desperate

he has to start cooking meth and he has to hook

up with this drug -addicted student of his because,

let's face it, Jesse was on the sauce a couple

of times. Oh, no. You know, I'm not discounting

that. I'm not saying Walt was doing the drugs.

Walt was cooking them. Walt was the drug dealer.

But that was my original initial turnoff when

the show first debuted in 2008. Why I avoided

it for so long. Why it took me so long to actually

look at it and realize what the show really was.

I made an initial judgment off of several TV

trailers when it first came out, and I'm like,

yeah, that show's not for me. Since then, I'd

gone back and I had watched it, and I was like,

oh yeah, everybody's right. It's a damn good

show that's more than what I thought it was.

But that was just what my initial thought was

at the time. I don't think that now, and I didn't

think that five, six, seven years ago. But Breaking

Bad's the choice for 2008? Oh, absolutely. Yeah.

It's such a good show. It really is. This isn't

even seven grand, all right? My guy wants 85.

This is all the money I have in the world. You're

a drug dealer. Negotiate. You are not how I remember

you from class. I mean, like, not at all. I gotta

go. Wait, wait, hold on. Tell me why you're doing

this. Seriously. Why do you do it? Money, mainly.

There you go. Nah, come on. Man, some straight

like you, giant stick up his ass, all of a sudden

at age, what, 60, he's just gonna break bad?

I'm 50. It's weird, is all, okay? It doesn't

compute. Listen, if you've gone crazy or something,

I mean, if you've gone crazy or depressed, I'm...

I'm just saying. That's something I need to know

about. Okay? I mean, that affects me. Yeah! What

a cook. It's got great lines. It's got great

action. I can't remember if it's the third season

or the one with the airline crash that happens.

before the season, and he's got the Pontiac Aztec

that keeps getting wrecked. Like, that whole

season is that stupid Aztec that keeps getting

destroyed. And a little teddy bear in the pool.

And you're like, what the hell is going on? And

then at the very end, at the very end, it's like,

whoa. Whoa. And that's a great show is the one

that makes you go, whoa. Yeah, absolutely. Because

Q was drunk and was an aircraft controller and

was Jessica Jones' dad. Very sad. Yeah, very

sad. 2009? This one's maybe an obscure one. 2009

was a weird year for me. That was the year my

mother passed with cancer and had surgery, and

it went very, very, very, very, very, very, very...

I cannot stress enough how badly it went. We

got there at 7 in the morning. I got home at

midnight. Oh, I'm so sorry, dude. She lingered

for five more months. Oh. Technically, they gave

the wind to cancer, but I'm venting now. So I

was busy for about six months there. Yeah, obviously.

Okay, so 2009, life after people. If there's

no one around to maintain the turbines, the electricity

doesn't get produced. As generating plants go

down, outages on the power grid contribute to

a cascade of failure worldwide. After a few weeks,

the planet is plunged into a deep darkness it

has not experienced since humans first huddled

around campfires. It was a show, I think, on

A &E. And it was kind of the premise was, OK,

so what happens if everybody disappeared tomorrow?

Rapture or virus or whatever. Humanity is gone

tomorrow. What happens after the first day, the

first week, first month? Go a year, 10 years.

They usually take it out until the last traces

of humanity are gone. It's like, what happens

to skyscrapers when there's no one around to

take care of them? What happens to dogs when

there's no one to take care of them? It's not

a happy story for dogs. Not a happy story for

about anything domestic that needs humanity.

But it's fascinating. I remember the one thing

that lasted the longest was some Mount Rushmore

knockoff in Georgia. It was just carved into

the rock, and eventually erosion would get it,

but it would take a couple thousand years. But

I like that kind of thing because, you know,

I believe I mentioned this is right before Walking

Dead and all the zombie stuff. I really ran zombie

stuff into the ground. I used to love zombie

stuff until I got ran into the ground. So this

was kind of like a neat, like, ooh, you know,

if it's like a zombie story because humanity's

gone. So, like, you know, what lasts, what doesn't

last, what goes bad, that kind of thing. So I

really enjoyed Life After People. Also, I don't

like it. Yeah, me too. Me either. Holy shit,

that show's still going. Well. The special to

debut the show aired January 21st, 2008. Season

1 debuted April 21st, 2009. Season 3 debuted

July 14th of this year, and it has no last air

date, according to Wikipedia. And it says...

Season 3 is like 20 years after the... Yeah,

well, it says it aired on History Channel, release

date January 21st, 2008 to September 15th of

2025. It's supposed to end in September this

year. Holy shit. Cool. Well, humanity built a

lot of crap that's got to get wiped out. Guess

so. Tom Ford. Okay, so 2000... Speaking of which,

ironically, in the post -apocalyptic land of

Ooo, Finn the Human and Jake the Dog... Oh, Adventure

Time. Adventure Time. Must eat sugar. You're

grounded, mister. Oh, this is really bad. They're

going to be attracted to the Candy Kingdom. Why?

Because the candy people are made of sugar, you

ding -dong. Give me some sugar, baby. Chew on

this. I like the show. It's cute. It's based

on Pimbleton Ward's D &D game, so automatically

kind of won me some points there. It got weird

and arty towards the end, but... I don't have

a lot to say about it. I enjoyed watching a lot

of the episodes. I like the brotherhood dynamic.

I liked Ice King's whole narrative. At first

he was like this... He was a legitimate villain,

then he became kind of a goofy villain. And then

you kind of got his tragic backstory and you

kind of rooted for him. Yeah, he was every type

of villain throughout the show, I think. 2011?

Okay, so 2011, it was on a network. I think it

was on Fox. But it lasted. This was one that

I always say, I don't watch shows for the first

season so they'll survive. All you X -Files fans,

you're welcome. Buffy fans, you're welcome. This

one I watched. It was produced by Steven Spielberg.

And in another apocalyptic future, so to survive,

humanity goes back in time to the Cretaceous

era. Terra Nova. Ah, yes. It's about a family

that sneaks through the... They're not supposed

to be able to get in the program, but they do,

and they go back in time to Cretaceous era, where

apparently there are a lot of Carnotauruses,

but not a lot of Tyrannosaurus. Bad guy from

Avatar, basically plays the same character, and

the little joke in my collection, I have his

figure from Avatar, and there's a line in Terra

Nova where he's like, I hate Carnotauruses. So

I have his action figure being eaten by a Carnotaurus.

It barely lasted, and it was taking some weird

twists towards the end, and I'm just like, look,

it had dinosaurs and Steven Spielberg. And then

they established it was not... It was one of

these weird... If you remember from Endgame,

how they explain how going back in time sets

a different branch? Yep. Yeah, because they were

like, well, we realize we can't alternate our

own future somehow. There was a rock or something

they sent back in time, and it didn't show up

in the future, so they were like, okay, so this

is a different timeline. Alright, post -apocalyptic

nonsense is over. 2012. I want to tell a story

about my dear friend Molly. I hope she never

hears this because she's going to be upset. Oh

no. She mainly got into this show and got into

comic books in general. Comic book man. Oh, Arrow.

Arrow. The first of the WB Arrowverse. What do

you see? Six armed guards, two pit bosses, and

four men. No slot machines. I mean, how do you

call yourself a casino without any lucky sevens?

Stay focused, please. I'll be with you the entire

time. Thanks. It's really good having you inside

me. And by you, I mean your voice. And by me,

I mean my ear. I'm going to stop talking right

now. That would be my preference. You know, the

thing about this one, like the second season

is probably the best one. For some weird reason,

that first season is like a weird hybrid of comic

books and box teen dramas, like the OC and whatever.

I don't know why, but I really dug that bizarre

vibe. I like that first season. It's weird. The

second season with Deathstroke is better. For

a while, I enjoyed the Arrowverse. Arrow was

its flagship. I thought he was a good character.

I thought it was interesting. My only thing was

I was sad. I was doubly sad because What's -His

-Name was supposed to be a guy who played the

Atom. He played Superman in Superman Returns.

Brandon Routh. He was supposed to be Ted Kord.

And I'm like, why do they always hate Ted Kord?

Because he's one of my favorite characters. Every

time, they always yank him away from me. So Arrow.

2013 has an asterisk? I know why that is. I'm

going to tell another long rambling story. I

mentioned in the movie thing that Aliens is one

of my top five movies, the second movie. It's

one of my top five movies of all time. In 2013,

if I got my math right, which I may not have,

they released a video game called Aliens Colonial

Marines. The thing was it was supposed to be

canonical to the movie series because this was

before Disney bought Fox. Right. And I am not

good with video games. I am not particularly

skilled. But I was curious about it, because

it was supposed to be canonical. The story was

supposed to be canonical. I ended up going on

this thing called the YouTubes, and I watched

a playthrough of Aliens. And it turns out that

the game had this weird, complicated history,

and was very bad, and there's a whole... There

are multiple videos about the backstory of this

video game. But I watch these guys play it. And

this literally marks the shift of my viewing

habits. Because I kind of enjoyed watching these

guys playing a video game on YouTube. And I watched

another video where they played it. And so at

this point, most of my viewing is YouTube. And

this is kind of the start of it. Of me shifting

from TV to YouTube. Because of Aliens Colonial

Marines. I read My Choice, and it's interesting

that this came up last night. I was talking to

my best friend Jason. He's Rick and Morty. So

now you know the real reason I rescued you. I

just took over the family, Morty. And if you

tell your mom or sister I said any of this, I'll

deny it. And they'll take my side because I'm

a hero, Morty. And now you're going to have to

go and do whatever I say, Morty. Forever. And

I'll go out and I'll find some more of that Mulan

Szechuan teriyaki dipping sauce, Morty. Because

that's what this is all about, Morty. That's

my one -armed man. I'm not driven by avenging

my dead family, Morty. That was fake. I'm driven

by finding that McNugget sauce. I want that Mulan

McNugget sauce, Morty. That's my series arc,

Morty. It takes nine seasons. I want my McNugget

dipping sauce Szechuan sauce, Morty. That's what's

going to take us all the way to the end, Morty.

Season nine more seasons, Morty. Nine more seasons

until I get that dipping Szechuan sauce for 97

more years, Morty. I want that McNugget sauce,

Morty. I guess the new season just came out or

just ended. I was kind of like, eh. And he was

like, you're the one who got me into Rick and

Morty. And I'm like, was I? He's like, yeah.

I'm like, oh, okay. But yeah, I particularly...

The early seasons, I really enjoyed Rick and

Morty. I have a little, I mean, I've cleaned

it out, a little Carton of Szechuan sauce when

they brought it back. I was one of those guys.

But I think what I loved in the early seasons

was I am big on lore, narrative, and overarching

story structures. And I think the problem with

Rick and Morty is that they teased all that,

and they also did like a Venture Brothers thing

where it's like, ha ha, you're stupid for caring

about this. I think after two or three seasons

of, ha ha, you're stupid for caring about this.

You're stupid for caring about this guy. You're

stupid for caring about this story plot point.

It's like, okay, good luck with you. Have fun.

But for the time, I was really into it. So you

make the list. Very cool. 2014. Barry, when you

approach a new environment, do you case every

inch of it? Could you have the time? But you

don't. You just run in blind. There's a difference,

Barry, between having powers and having precision.

When I came to you thinking about going out and

helping people, you said I could be an inspiration.

Living this life, well, it takes more than a

mask. It takes discipline. And since you are

probably as stubborn as I am... Wait, what is

that for? You're going to run over there. You're

going to come back at me. And you're going to

get hit with an arrow. No, I'm not. Yes, you

are. Okay, fine. I will humor you. Ready? Ready.

Nice try. You shot me? I heard you heal fast.

Back to the Arrowverse. The Flash. The Flash.

Again, the first couple of seasons. Man, I really

like this show. Yeah. I love that they brought

back John Wesley Shipp as his dad and then as

a Flash from an alternate universe. He was the

Flash from the 90s series. Yep. They brought

back Mark Hamill as the trickster. He was great.

He was so underused, but he was great. Because

they did him as both the 90s show trickster and

they did him as a modern, creepy Hannibal Lecter

version of the trickster. My only issue, part

of the reason that this show fell out of my kind

of radar is because every season it was another

speedster. The big bad was always a speedster.

You always had to go faster. After the third

time, I'm just like, okay. The first time it

was cool because the reverse flash had taken

over the other guy's body and it was a nice twist

and it was cool. I was like, okay, he's got to

go faster. He's another speedster and you've

got to go faster than him. He's another speedster

and you've got to go faster than him. It's like,

okay. What's wrong with the weather wizard? What's

wrong with Pied Piper? I still remember there's

one where they brought in King Shark? The big

shark dude. Yeah, King Shark. And there's a bit

where he's running on the water and spinning

it around. Flash is running on the water, running

around and around King Shark. It's comic book

stuff. I love that crap. I eat that up with a

spoon. More King Shark, less angry speedster

dude. Coming from DC to Marvel. Another one that

we have in common. 2015, Daredevil. Now, I love

season two better than the first season. But

the problem is I love half of the second season

better, and then the other half I don't. It's

okay. The half with the Punisher is amazing.

There's a sequence in the hospital where he's

like fucking Jason Voorhees. He's terrifying.

Yeah. The Punisher was so good. And then you

get that episode in the middle of the season

with the Kingpin I talked about on your episode,

where you see him take over the prison. And he

really goes from being Wilson Fisk's corrupt

businessman to the Kingpin. To the Kingpin, yep.

Tell us this. I'm in control now. And I've set

you free. You've set me free. I'll show you.

Does everyone warn me that prison would be an

inhumane environment? It is. But I... I find

it refreshing. The perfect microcosm of the animal

world. When an animal wants something, when it

needs something. Other things need to be stepped

on. You want me on the outside, so I step on

every piece of shit I see. That way nobody gets

strong and we... City's yours for the taking.

Something like that. So if you can do that, if

you can get me out, why not just do it yourself?

Because I played the long game, Mr. Castle. But

the first season is also really, really good.

And again, we praised D 'Onofrio. I loved his

kind of weird, bad, damaged character. I also

like, I remember watching it the first time and

being like, Boy, people in New York have really...

Everyone had really nicely shaped lips for some

reason. Really well shaped lips. Daredevil was

great. That was peak Marvel. Marvel could not

fail back in those days. 2016. This actually

made both my lists. Westworld. But I'm going

to asterisk and say only the first two seasons.

I love the first season. I love the first season.

It's brilliant. Second season's pretty good.

It's got some highlights. It's got some brilliant

moments. It has some, uh... Mistakes. Is the

word you're too embarrassed to use. You ought

not to be here. A product of a trillion of them.

The evolution forged the entirety of sentient

life on this planet using only one tool. A mistake.

I flattered myself. We're taking a more disciplined

approach here. I suppose self -delusion is a

gift of natural selection as well. Indeed it

is. But of course, we've managed to slip evolution's

leash now, haven't we? We can cure any disease,

keep even the weakest of us alive, and one fine

day, perhaps we should even resurrect the dead.

Call forth Lazarus from his cave. Do you know

what that means? It means that we are done. And

then it became angry robots taking over the world.

And I'm like, but I want to watch Westworld.

Yeah. I want to watch like, like now you're in

the real world or, you know, the real future

world and your evil AI taken over. I don't care

about any of that. I want to watch the, the West,

the whole violent, the lights have violent ends.

Also, Anthony Hopkins only lasted for the first

season because they killed him at the end. Oh,

damn. But he was great. Ed Harris was fantastic

as the man in black. That whole twist was great.

That first season was great. The second season

was okay. It had some moments. Westworld. Westworld.

Very cool. 2017 is Seth MacFarlane's tribute

to Star Trek. The Orville. The Orville. I didn't

love it, but like... I don't know if we were

in the era of Discovery at this point. I think

we were. At least, especially after the first

season, they tried to make it legitimate Star

Trek. Apparently, McFarlane's a big fan of Next

Generation. I give it some credit. At least they

tried. Yes, Discovery debuted in 2017. I don't

have the exact date in front of me, but it did

debut. I watched that first season of Discovery,

too. I gave it a chance. Yep, September 24th

of 2017 is when Discovery debuted. Yeah, I...

Okay. It's a spaceship that uses fungus to hop

between dimensions in Star Trek, yeah. But they've

never... Okay, sure. Mario, I think the fungus

is alive. I mean, that's kind of what it was,

dude. 2018 is another one that I don't really

have any strong... This also came into conversation

last night because there weren't any really shows

that I literally watched. Like I said, at this

point I'm deep into my YouTubes, but my best

friend made me watch a show. Multiple episodes

because he's obsessed with it. That's kind of

his thing is he gets obsessed with things. It's

funny because as I'm going through the list,

I'm seeing all these shows that he loves. and

won't shut up about. And I'm like, yeah, I watch

Northern Lion play Honey with Isaac. Anyway,

however, I did watch a couple episodes of this

show, and they were good. So I'm going with Bluey.

I don't have any kids. Setting up the fact that

this was not a deeply personally held choice.

Yeah, no, I know, but what? I've seen episodes.

They're cute. That's all I got. I got nothing

else. There was nothing else in 2018 that I liked.

Okay. 2019. It's cute. It's cute. I'm not saying

it's not cute. I'm just wondering as to why.

Jump ahead to 2019 because you know what? This

one is like a Jordan. Free throw. It's nothing

but net. The Mandalorian. This is the way I have

spoken. Of course. How could I not? Of course.

I can't believe it was only 2019. Yeah. It's

weird. I thought Mythbusters was much older.

I thought Mandalorian was much earlier. No. Yeah.

I mean, I can bring you in warm or I can bring

you in cold. Yep. At first season. And then the

second season was really good, too. Yep. There

was no third season. Very sad. I don't know why

they didn't do one. There was only one episode.

There was only one episode. Which episode of

the third season is any good? The one where Ahsoka

shows up. 2020! It's another one that I don't

really have a lot of choices for, but I'm going

with a show from Cartoon Network called Smiling

Friends. And the main reason I'm picking that

is... Smiling Friends or Smiling? Smiling. They're

hired to make you smile. Okay. And I'm going

with that because the guy from Red Letter Media,

Mike Stoklosa, did a guest voice for the pilot

episode. She sees what it is. Exactly. Huh. Guess

I'd never really thought about that before. All

right. Gonna kill myself now. Bye. No, no, no,

no, wait, wait, wait, wait. I know the perfect

place that will definitely cheer you up. Welcome

to Dayland! I always come here when I feel down

in the dumps. Dave the Dave Rollercoaster, the

Dave Toilets, Dave Snowcones. Oh, and you can

even meet Dave himself. Who's Dave? I don't know.

He's Dave, creator of Dave Land. Come on, let's

go on the rollercoaster. Oh, the line's short.

Okay. It's weird. It's a weird comedy. I keep

calling it Comedy Central instead of Cartoon

Network. It's a weird one, but I did like it.

And again, it's got a little bit of media tie

-in. There you go. Which I watch on the YouTubes.

Yes. 2021, a little easier. It's Loki. The first

season was kind of this cool American Doctor

Who vibe with weird... I love the retro set design.

It's like... The first season was kind of cool.

I would have gone with the better choice for

2021, Hawkeye. Hawkeye was 2021? I think so.

Okay, if Hawkeye was 2021, yeah, I'm absolutely

changing that. I genuinely love that show. Yes,

Hawkeye miniseries 2021. Okay, Lucky, you're

in the garbage chute. You're falling off the

shattered rainbow bridge. I'm fully on you. I

adored Hawkeye. I like the girl Hawkeye. I thought

they had good chemistry. I love that he was like

a dad to her. Yeah. Kate Bishop. Yelena. Yelena

was cool. I'm not the hugest Yelena stan. We

got our boy D 'Onofrio back. Yep. That's... That's

what happens when you don't scroll. This is what

happens when you don't dig deep and look for

that who wants to be a superhero. God, I need

to talk to her. I think you're going to have

to calm down. Let's talk this out. Hi, this is

Eleanor. Just take a breath, okay? Your mom needs

our help. That video, Kate, is... It's not good.

Kingpin will not take this lightly. He's going

to react. And he's going to do it in a big way.

Clint, this is my mess to clean up. You should

go home. You should be with your family. You

can still make it in time for Christmas. Kate,

you're my partner. Your mess is my mess. I'm

not going anywhere until this is finished. See,

this is why I don't use IMDB. I use Wikipedia.

I made one mistake in a list of like 54 entries.

Yeah, I know. It's okay. But no, I mean, okay,

so I don't think I'm a Yelena stan. I'm more

so like... Everyone I know is like, oh, Yelena,

Yelena, she's so great. It's like, yeah, she's

okay. Okay, but like... What makes her great

to me is the moments she has, specifically to

Hawkeye, the moment she has with Kate, the interaction

she has with Kate. Yes, I know. That's what makes

her great to me. And again, for me, I haven't

seen Thunderbolts yet. I don't know when it's...

I don't know if it is on video now, but I don't

know if it's on Disney yet. Yeah. I don't know

if it's on Disney plus yet or not. I don't know

when it's coming. I'll get to it. It just came

out. It just came out. Cause I bought like, he

bought the wrong copy. He was going to get on

a 4k, but he got like, I don't know. It was like

a thing that you've got like a pop up book. Yeah.

From Walmart. Yeah. Steel book. Yeah. So the,

um, When that trailer hit, the trailer with whatever

song is in the trailer, and she's jumping off

the building. I was like, okay, I'm in. And,

you know, she does the Yelena stuff and whatever.

I was like, oh, okay, cool. But yeah, no, Hawkeye.

Oh, man. I'm glad you called me on that because

I forgot about that. I'm like, Loki? Who the

fuck is Loki? Loki's a good show. Come on. It

might be a good show. I haven't seen it, so I

can't say anything about the actual show, but

I hate his character. Well, it's not your list.

I appreciate that you reminded me that a show

I like much more was on. I know it's not my list.

2022. Unless you want to say anything else about

Hawkeye. No. 2022, I did not need to be reminded

of this show. It's pretty obvious. And or. We've

done episodes about Andorra. I've licked its

bottom pretty thoroughly. I love this show. And

what do you sacrifice? Calm. Kindness. Kinship.

Love. I've given up all chance at inner peace.

I made my mind a sunless space. I share my dreams

with ghosts. I wake up every day to an equation

I wrote 15 years ago from which there's only

one conclusion. I'm damned for what I do. My

anger, my ego, my unwillingness to yield, my

eagerness to fight. They set me on a path from

which there's no escape. I yearn to be a savior

against injustice without contemplating the cost.

And by the time I look down, there's no longer

any ground beneath my feet. What is my sacrifice?

I'm condemned to use the tools of my enemy to

defeat them. I burn my decency for someone else's

future. I burn my life to make a sunrise that

I know I'll never see. Now, the ego that started

this fight will never have a mirror or an audience.

All the light of gratitude. So what do I sacrifice?

Everything! Again, we have a whole episode about

Andor, so I'm not going to... We have multiple

whole episodes about Andor, but yeah. 2023. This

is another one I pulled out of my butt. I remember,

I saw it later, I saw it on disc, but it ties

into the Monsterverse movies. Monarch, Legacy

of Monsters. With Kurt Russell and his son Wyatt

playing the same role. Oh, nice. Doing that with

you, I've actually never done that with another

actor, but I've never played the same role. How

have you felt so far working with me? Mostly

behind the scenes. Yeah, I mean, the most fun

thing to do was on my days off is when I'd have

the opportunity to come watch you guys. We still

have not worked together, technically. Not really.

No one wants to see Kurt Russell, Wyatt Russell

combos. Thank God for Godzilla. We both get to

work with Godzilla. He fails to hit his marks,

never knows what he might do. But the shit he

can do with his mouth, he's incredible. Being

in the business for as long as you have, still

being the most excited person on set. It's fun

for me to see my dad be that person for other

people. Hell of a job, co -pilot. How many fathers

and sons have that opportunity? I got that right.

I'm just really glad we did it. It was fun. It

was great. I had a ball with you. And I actually

kind of, like, this is one that I did enjoy.

Like, Bluey, it's like, okay, I liked a couple

episodes and there's nothing else. This one I

actually did enjoy. Kind of cool. I think they're

doing another season. I've got to wait just a

few dozen years for it to come out on DVD. 2024,

I feel bad. I've got The Penguin on DVD, or on

Blu -ray. I really should have watched it so

I could just claim The Penguin, because I love

Matt Reeves' Batman. I love that movie. I love

Colin Farrell in that movie as The Penguin. Everyone

says that The Penguin show is really, really

good. I've got it. I just have not bothered to

watch it yet, so I went with Skeleton Crew. Okay.

It's Star Wars. I mean, it's cute. It's fun.

I enjoyed it. I love Neil. He's a little elephant

dude. Oh, my goodness. When? You missed the whole

test. What happened? Did your dad still got all

those tools? Okay, what do we got here? If you

found a real Jedi temple, shouldn't we tell the

supervisor or maybe our parents? Why do we have

to dig it up? Because this could be a real adventure.

No more pretend. I didn't even ask how our assessment

went. How did assessment go? I think good. Okay,

that's great. Let's go. But promise we won't

get in trouble. I promise. Okay. It's good. I

mean, this is a Loki -Hawkeye thing, I think.

In this case, I didn't see Hawkeye yet. I'm meaning

to, but I just don't get around to it because

I'm lazy. And then, 2025. Now, at the beginning

of your episode, I said that, hey, modern streaming

is kind of like the British version, where it's

series, not seasons. And, you know, you had your

bullshit in your list. 1981. Andor! There was

literally nothing else that was gonna beat Andor

second series. I have friends everywhere. I absolutely

pick Andor twice. Okay. Let me just... I'm just...

There are probably days where the idea that this

was coming kept me alive, to be honest. That's

fine. And honestly, if I had to pick one, I would

pick the second one. Yeah. It's so good. Yeah,

the first season was a good setup and it was

a good introduction. It was very good, but that

second season, damn! The whole middle segment

is just amazing. And that finale. Not even the

finale. No, not even the finale. Like we said

in those episodes, I personally feel, and once

you actually go back and watch Hawkeye, I feel

like we needed a little bit more with Hawkeye.

Hawkeye got six episodes and that's all it got.

And or season two got 12 episodes. I felt at

the end of episode six, I was good to go. Like

I'm glad we had the other episodes, but at the

end of episode six, I was perfectly fine waiting

for a season three. I was fine. I don't know

what it is about that end of season of episode

six and season two. That music, the end of them,

just her being free of the guy and getting the

revenge on him and blowing the thing up and Endor

coming out of the shadow and that music swelling

at the end of that episode. I was like, OK, I

can wait six more months for the next episodes

or whatever. I'm good. I don't know what man

that music that Nicholas Bertel did for that

end of episode six and season two. God! But obviously

we got episodes 7 to 12, which is fine. And it

was good. But, yeah, no. And or season 2. 2025.

Alright. That's your list. My list? What is mine?

Yes, the list, which is yours. That is, folks,

this episode of Studio 2009. That is 54 years,

Mr. David Draper's lifetime of television watching.

And yeah, I haven't fully switched to the whole

YouTube thing. I basically just watch a lot of

the old stuff that I've seen. Like I mentioned

in my episode, I just put on forensic files for

background noise half the time sometimes, so

there's that. I don't really watch too much else.

switch from video games to D and D for, I'll

play that and kind of have it running in the,

when they get into combat, it takes up a lot

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as noise in the background. Yep. Yep. Yep. And

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