Legends of the Dark Knight

Joyride, Lost Soul, Hidden Agenda, Bloodsport, and Once Burned Review

February 18, 2014 58:20 EXPLICIT
Legends of the Dark Knight Joyride, Lost Soul, Hidden Agenda, Bloodsport, and Once Burned Review
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About this Episode

We take a look at five episodes of Batman Beyond: Joyride, Lost Soul, Hidden Agenda, Bloodsport, and Once Burned. Discussion points include the return of the Royal Flush Gang, Terry McGinnis navigating his complex relationship with Melanie, the debut of digital villain Robert Vance, and the recurring appearances of the Jokers street gang. We also analyze the show's evolution, production inconsistencies, and how these stories fit into the broader Gotham City timeline.

Very good then, Mr. McGinnis. Welcome to my world.

of the Dark Knight, episode 30. I'm your host,

Steve Megatron Phillips, and joining me in this

adventure into Gotham City as always is... Dave

Jones Mike, hello. Hello. Ladies and gentlemen...

We have ten episodes left. It's the end of an

era. We have ten episodes left until this show

is done. It will be a sad day, but it will be

a good one as well, so... Because then that means

something new will start at some point. Oh, yes

Something super Maybe where's that man? Where's

my kryptonite he's never around when you need

him Yeah, so we are continuing on with Batman

Beyond and There are some good episodes today

and a couple of just meh episodes today. I don't

know what it is about this show. I love it in

general and overall but wow between this episode

and next time episode 31 there are a number of

stinkers and it's kind of sad. could be because

there's this thing called season two space fillers

yeah that's true because season twos always get

like oh it's get a little random yeah uh... so

let's see what else is going on uh... over in

uh... batman beyond two point oh we are as of

this recording we are reaching the climax of

The Batman 7 part story inside the 2 .0 comic

written by Kyle Higgins, art by Tony Silas, colors

by Emilio Lopez. It's amazing what they're doing

with Batman Beyond 2 .0. Basically take the events

of Return of the Joker and figure out what happens.

in between that and epilogue and that's what

batman beyond 2 .0 is at this point and it's

it's just absolutely amazing it's very well done

and probably the only time i don't mind man bat

yeah that's about the only time they've used

him creatively in the last year and a half of

the new 52 So I think we'll get on with this

episode and jump into the first episode of the

night. Who's hungry? Welcome. Welcome to Beefy

Burger. May I take your order, please? Two dozen

burgers, fries, a couple gallons of shakes. That'll

be beef -er. To go. Uh... 60 units, please. But

Beefy says it's on the house. Sir, I really can't...

As he says... First up of the night is Joyride.

This episode, a small gang of jokers ride out

of Gotham City on their way to initiate Lee,

a new member of the gang. On their way out, they

buzzed by a highly advanced flying vehicle that

races overhead. Though they are startled, the

jokers continue on. Yeah, this, um... This episode...

I like it, but I don't have like, oh my god this

episode is so awesome feeling from it. This is

kinda like, I don't know, you're probably gonna

say blast me when I say this, but this to me

is kinda like Joker's Millions from BTIS. It's

just one of those Joker episodes that is just

there. uh... while joker's millions was a really

good episode uh... it's just fine this one to

be okay they're gonna initiate somebody new and

hey here's a twist at the end he gives leave

the the gang initiation person he wants to or

the one that wants to initiate he constantly

asked them well But Batman only has this and

you have this giant he constantly makes you know

comparisons between the jokers have too much

power and they're gonna basically wipe somebody

out with that power and that person can't defend

themselves properly so you can immediately tell

that the person that they're gonna initiate doesn't

really want to be part of the gang and Only the

jokers would be that stupid to take a nuclear

vehicle and enjoy a ride. Oh Yeah, well they're

there for the fun. It's fun time! Yes. What I

did like most of all about this episode, I thought

it was very interesting, very awesome. It's not

something you see Terry do often, but because

his wings got damaged, it's nice seeing him swing

on bat grapples. Yeah, it was entirely different.

Yes, I thought that was really really cool because

I believe the back raffles come right out of

the suit They're basically built. He's not he's

not carrying anything and then you know, they're

built into the wrist Yeah, it's kind of like

Spidey's web shooters and kind of like the the

batarangs also shoot out of this Shoot out of

the suit as well um... absolutely love it though

i thought that was a nice nod to the old series

with hey this is how we used to do it kids when

we didn't have flying wings uh... overall this

is an action -packed episode but it has no real

story sure they have to go get this vehicle back

from the jokers and stop it before it explodes

and destroys half the city That's not really

a story in my mind. I mean, it's not like a compelling

story at all. It's more so that, hey, here's

this version of the Joker's gang, and let's use

them as the villain of the week. I don't know.

What about you? What were your thoughts on this

one? I think it's kind of... Almost a throwaway,

but almost not It's certainly different it is

it's I can kind of see also that they were trying

to tackle the you know gang initiation type thing

Mm -hmm within the episode with the Lee character

And then you have you know typical gang Trying

to cause havoc and then in this case it happens

to be with a nuclear vehicle But yeah, I mean

I don't really have any opinion of it because

it's not one I care to watch in general I tend

to watch more of the ones where there's some

calling to like an either a new villain that's

Unique to the rugs gallery of Terry or to Bruce's

rugs gallery. Oh Yeah, absolutely Yeah, that's

just one of those things where It just isn't

it just doesn't really do it For me at all. I

mean, it's an it's a nice little episode. It's

a nice little Hey, here's a villain of the week

type episode and you can enjoy it And if you

like or you don't have to watch it if you don't

have to if you don't want to it's I don't know.

It's just one of those things where I Will say

I did like the designs on the jokers on on each

of the individual jokers And I do like how this

show is showing you multiple versions of them,

because if you look at that image, you have every

different kind of joker. You got one that kind

of, I don't know if Bruce Timm and the company

did this on purpose, but the one guy with the,

basically the Harley -like hat that it's green

on one side and blue on the other. He kind of

reminds me of, Megavolt from Darkwing Duck in

his design and obviously the Joker leader who

was voiced by Bruce Timm is obviously meant to

resemble the original Joker but but yeah I mean

there were no real animation problems here I

did enjoy the music in the episode but as far

as the overall story and plot it's just kind

of there there's nothing really There's no real

substance to it and that was kind of disappointing

the only thing that's kind of interesting is

when you get into the continuity of it the They

say that the skeleton at the bottom of the mind

shift is presumably that of the joker As it's

wearing a boutonniere but in the film batman

bian return the joker they Telled that joker

was buried in the ruins of arkham asylum which

if you watch the animatic on the dvd it shows

bruce actually walking into arkham and you see

the um And he's an old man and you see all of

the the tombs for like the Riddler Poison Ivy

Two -face and all the other characters and then

you see the Joker's body hanging up From the

ceiling with laughter. Yeah. Yeah With some of

the production notes, this was the first episode

to be produced for season 2. A shot of the Batmobile

under the limelight and the revealing shot of

Terry emerging from the shadows dressed as Batman.

Confer to this episode as a quote -unquote premiere

feeling. I did like that and I will say that

I did notice a lot in this episode that Terry,

they're basically emulating several times when

Bruce Would appear as Batman and the other thing

is Terry. I Believe it's in this episode. Yeah,

it is. He uses Something I've never seen him

do before to this point he his belt is his own

utility belt because it has inside his belt buckle

has a Call signal for the Batmobile Yeah, I remember

seeing that it's like wow That was it was pretty

awesome For trivia we have though scab is first

seen in rebirth part one. This is the first time

he's been named This episode introduces the tease

When Batman first encounters the jokers scab

rolls down the window and says hey bats wanna

race in the Batman animated series episode Harley's

holiday Harley Quinn says the same exact line

when Batman and Robin pull up beside the car

beside her car So that's a nice little nod Yeah

The interesting thing with the voice cast for

this episode is you have Wendy Malik Who was

on just shoot me she's been on the number of

other other things she See here she was I believe

no she wasn't in Will and Grace She's done numerous

amounts of voice roles She's currently in Hot

in Cleveland. She's been in Brother Bear 2. She

was in Confessions of a Shopaholic. Let's see,

Alvin and the Chipmunks the Squeakwool. For TV,

she was in Baywatch. She was on Kate and Allie.

She was more recently... on the X -Files in 98.

Just shoot me. Like I said, she was in Frasier

for a couple episodes. She was in Law and Order.

The last most recent thing, 2010 to present,

she's in Hot in Cleveland. But she's a really,

really cool actress, so very, very awesome to

see her do a voice. And her voice is one of those

ones that's kind of always kind of... you kind

of recognize it once you hear it and you have

Ethan Embry as the voice of Lee Ethan Embry for

most people you'll remember him from he was in

Can't Hardly Wait so he was also Most people

probably want to forget this, but he was in Calloway's.

He was also in Vegas vacation as Rusty Griswold.

Nice. Yeah, overall, Joyride... I can't believe,

even though they're just kids, these jokers would

be that stupid to steal a nuclear vehicle. Jokers

want cash cards. Jokers want... Laughs and fun

and to have the lead the kind of a lead joker

here Goal power mad is just kind of uncharacteristic

in my opinion Yeah, I kind of agree Shall we

move on yes, let tragedy in the world of technology

today with the passing of Robert Vance A pioneer

in digital technology, Vance had recently been

suffering from a debilitating brain disorder.

Realizing there was no cure, Vance spent his

final days creating a bold new computer program.

By digitizing his brain impulses, it was Vance's

dream to guide his company from beyond the grave.

Work hard, save your money, and remember the

customer is always right. There are many obstacles

to quality, but don't let them. What have your

corneas got? I wasn't born when your file was

set up. I'm your grandson, Bobby. How long have

I been in here? Almost 35 years. 35 years? I

imagine the world's changed quite a bit. Oh,

yes. My father, your son, he... He's gone. A

heart attack. It just happened. Ah. So you're

alone now. I'm the last of the family. I've got

to run the company now, but I'm not sure I can.

Not sure? I was no older than you are now when

I started the company. I know, but you and I

are two different people and - That's enough.

Put me online. Alright, up next is Lost Soul.

A newscast reports the death of Robert Vance,

owner and president of Vance Enterprises, a powerful

computer company. Knowing that he was dying from

a curable brain disorder Vance took steps to

safeguard his company's future By digitizing

his mind into a computer program to act as helpful

advisor to future owners 35 years later in the

present a young man enters Vance Enterprises

and reboots Vance's program the young man identifies

himself as Bobby Vance the elder Vance's grandson

I really enjoyed this episode. This episode is

a really, really creepy, fun ride. I thought

it was really great. I thought the plot was really

interesting. You have at least one cool line

from Bruce getting out of the cave the old -fashioned

way. None of the Robins ever complained because

he had to shut the computer down when Vance's

program tried to break in. I absolutely love

that. I love how even in cloaked mode Terry tries

sneaking around and that damn cat had to ruin

everything. That was pretty awesome. But it was

an ingenious way that Vance's program was actually

in the laser blast because he got blasted into

Terry's suit. That was a cool way to kind of

transfer his program. Bruce in the Batmobile

Shadow is very awesome because obviously Terry

in the suit with Vance controlling it he basically

sends Terry out to sea and Bruce has to come

pick him up I thought that was really really

awesome This episode, while creepy, explores

themes of whether you should really need to follow

your ancestors' legacies or not. In some cases,

yes. In this case, it's probably a good thing

that Bobby Vance did not follow his grandfather's

legacy. What did you think about Lost Soul? Well,

I do find it kind of weird that... He would digitize

his memory That Robert Vance would But it's definitely

unique Way of doing things having a computer

program have to try or basically take over the

bat suit take try and take over the the bat cave

It's It I want to say it's been done before Or

at least with the Batcave. Um... Ink, I guess

you could say, when Terry was trying to... I'm

saying trying to take over the Batcomputer. Hardac.

Oh, well, Hardac, yeah. Yeah, that was the last

time something like that was done, so that it's

the first time in Bat Beyond. So it's kind of

interesting doing that. But I... I think it was...

stronger in a sense than the other episode oh

yeah so far yeah but yeah it's I like whenever

they kind of push the envelope like that though

and make Batman kind of vulnerable Yeah, the

coolest thing about this episode I'm gonna skip

the trivia for a second The coolest thing about

the trivia is as we all know Will Friedle is

Terry McInnes Batman You have a boy meets world

reunion in this episode because Ryder Strong

is the voice of Bobby Vance For trivia, the newscaster

in the opening prologue clearly resembles Summer

Gleeson, though she is not voiced by Murray Devon.

A character named Vance who bears a strong resemblance

to Bobby appears in the Justice League Unlimited

episode Task Force X, but his familial relation

is never explained. Stacy Keach's role as the

voice of Robert Vance mirrors his earlier role

as Carl Beaumont in Batman the Mask of the Phantasm.

and that both are fathers who realize they have

limited time left and make plans to ensure their

respective families futures in vastly different

ways of course. The notable difference however

is Vance's return to oppose Batman while Carl

was merely suggested to. So that's pretty interesting.

What I do like about this episode is how everyone

in this future for batman beyond is basically

they don't i mean it's clear terry doesn't know

how to i mean he terry knows stuff he's not a

dummy but he doesn't know that oh cave is on

manual and then dana even shows that later manual

on an elevator i thought that was kind of cool

that most these people in the future are so used

to relying on automatic things It also kind of

reminds me of Wall -E, where everybody's used

to having machines do everything for them. Any

other thoughts on Lost Soul? No, not really.

Alright, we are going to move on to the next

episode. Uh oh, the GAT scores are in. I don't

even want to know what I got. Hey Max, what's

your ID? The last prime number before my birth

year. 2400! You got a perfect score! Yeah, well,

it's just a number. Doesn't mean anything. Believe

me, Tare, you're just as smart as I am. Think

so, huh? Let's see what he got. Incomplete? How'd

he get an incomplete on the GATs? Some emergency.

I had to leave before the test was over. Sometimes

I get the feeling you arranged for these emergencies.

Near perfect score, Carter. Way to go. Yeah,

well, class president has to set an example.

With scores like that, you're a shoe -in for

valedictorian. Yeah, a shoe -in. So what if he

didn't get top score? What? Hey. Max, congrats

on the top score. No big whoop. It's just a test.

Oh, don't be so modest, Max. Judging by your

GATs, I'd say you could give Carter here a run

for valedictorian if you wanted. I'm gonna go

make sure there's no one else in the building.

Drag program Max Joker 1 to trash and empty.

Transferring program. Transferring completed

data file. All right up! Up next is Hidden Agenda.

A businessman rushes to catch up with a vertical

train. Once on board, he is terrified to find

a gang of jokers are the only occupants. They

begin terrorizing the businessman and then their

leader, a man in zombie makeup who calls himself

Terminal, releases a set of vicious razor sharp

gag teeth before the jokers exit the train. As

the teeth tear at the businessman's clothes,

he is driven to the door, falls out to the sky,

Batman narrowly saves him. So yeah, this episode

is basically oh No, it's the high school episode

because at Hamilton Hill High School the results

for the standardized Test the GAT are posted

the top score a perfect 2400 goes to Maxine Gibson

Leading many to speculate that she is leading

candidate for class valedictorian Terry's test

was left incomplete as he had to leave in the

middle of an emergency. I do agree with Max though,

I think Terry is making up some of these emergencies

to get out of class work. I thought that was

kind of funny that she pointed that out. This

episode, I really enjoyed this episode for the

fact that you have the Flash as a Joker. And

you have new jokers because these jokers we haven't

seen these ones before these are all new designs

Compared to the ones we saw in Joyride Yeah,

definitely is I Really like I really like that

zombie joker Yeah terminal. Yeah, he's pretty

cool Um, but when I said the flash is a joker,

Michael Rosenbaum is the voice of terminal. Uh,

so it's very, very cool seeing him there and

Carter's home life. Yeah, that sucks. I get,

I understand these types of parents that want

perfection, but so glad my mom was never one

of them. I mean, I, you know, I did all right

in school. I, you know, B's and C's, but I watch

a lot of crime programs that have, you know,

that predict these, that basically depict these,

these parents who are A's. If it's not an A,

it's, you're dead to me, or this, that, and the

other thing. And of course, in some of these

crime programs, the kids come back and kill their

parents, but whatever. It's not a good thing,

but it's just, that's what this episode is. It's

one of those things where the mother is like,

well, it's not a perfect score if you don't,

you know, it's just one of them things. Let's

see, the Batmobile. It is a new sleek, sexy import

with turbo handling. You would bring that up.

I love the way the Batmobile moves in this show.

It is so friggin' cool. And I love how Max's

search program, when she modifies it to find

jokers instead of finding Batman, it lists Terry

at the top of the list. I know, that's so weird.

and her program didn't even didn't even have

Carter on the list that's so crazy but I do love

the end because Max does figure it out she says

one thing the Guinness don't call me Robin no

problem Alfred who's Alfred and I do like the

music in this episode it was Most of the Batman

Beyond music is very ramped up rock music and

kind of techno a little bit, but this one it

seemed like it was more ramped up to fit Terminal's

character and to make him sound as threatening

as he was. I really like that as well. What about

you? Well, I mean like Terminal, like I said

before, he's more of an interesting... I think

if... they were going to have the Joker's return

or using them period I think this would be the

better way to go but I like the the aspect of

Max figuring out that he is Batman being that

she's you know the only one that's kind of put

the pieces together like hey he disappears an

awful lot Still think it's kind of weird that

you know nobody else notices that you know Hey,

it could be this Batman kid. You know could be

Terry But it's nice to see them add another character

that adds to the dynamic of Terry and Bruce and

Their whole underground crime fighting Yep, absolutely.

So we do have a bit of continuity, deducing from

Terry's quipers, told them about Alfred. Production

even though it aired before it, which is why

Max knows, which is why she uses the cover story

about Matt, whom she met in that episode. with

production inconsistencies. When Max is reading

her email, she says one thing and the email says

another after she finishes typing it. This is

the first out of five episodes from which Bruce

Wayne is absent, the others being Final Cut,

Armory, Zeta, and Inquiling. Interestingly, in

the feature film Return of the Joker, Rosenbaum

always, you know, comes back and voices another

Joker, Ghoul, whose real name is given as Stuart

Carter Winthrop III. So, Stuart Carter Winthrop

III could be, uh, might be Carter Wilson's son,

grandson, whatever. Let's see here. One of Matt's

toys is a miniature of Superman's spaceship.

That's funny. Overall, Hidden Agenda is very

cool because I like seeing some of these high

school stories like this. And this kind of gives

more insight into Terry's life. It's not just

him as Batman, it's him as himself. And I really

enjoy that about it. Any other thoughts? No,

it just, it kind of adds more to his personality

instead of relying solely on him riding the coattails

of Bruce. It shows in depth background for him

personally. And then how he has to react with

people that he goes to school with. Alright,

we're gonna move on to the next episode. to pick

up some milk on the way home milk that's gonna

have to wait this was a tragedy my life was over

until I heard that the legendary Batman had returned

Batman I'd always imagined this Batman to be

an ageless soul inhabiting the greatest warrior

of each generation If this bat spirit really

existed, it would present the ultimate challenge.

You wanna fight, Dreg? Let's go! Cool! Up next,

we have Bloodsport. Oh boy. In a Gotham hotel,

a mysterious man is given the penthouse suite.

He ignores the staff's various offers, claiming

that all he requires is privacy. While he looks

over the city of Gotham, a mosquito sucks some

of his blood. Angered, he fires a dart from a

blowgun, killing the mosquito with a grim accuracy.

Meanwhile, Batman surveys a group of shoppers

and starts his nightly business. While Batman

fights off the thugs, Bruce mentions to him that

his mother has asked him to run an errand on

his way home. However, when morning comes, Terry

is forgotten to do so and his mother scolds him

for not helping her enough. oh boy I will say

again because this episode came before hidden

agenda as far as continuity wise I still like

this episode for the home life it shows with

Terry for giving more background to him but as

far as the night stalker or whatever he's the

stalker you sure he's voiced by Carl Lumley and

that's kind of awesome because Carl Lumley would

go on to voice The Martian Manhunter John Jones

and Justice League and Justice League Unlimited,

but This episode is just strange This is like

something out of the Twilight Zone type of thing

Yeah, I didn't find myself caring all that much

about this one either There are several things

I have wrong with this this episode that I know

that I did write down uh... okay i don't care

how powerful the best it is there's no way terry's

gonna be able to release the hood of a car whether

it's jumped or not the scene in in that scene

there was nothing uh... really holding the hood

down but seriously you're gonna kick the hood

up really The stalker guy means business not

only did he tag Batman find out who he really

is but he kidnapped Matt I will say this is kind

of nice to see Terry's bat life interfere with

his home life This is most that we've ever seen

of his mom and his brother I'm surprised you

didn't like the quip. It's a map. No a trap Will

say again that I do like some of Terry's actions

here, especially when he realizes that stalker

Has kidnapped his brother and he comes in to

fight him. He goes you want to fight drag? Let's

go. I absolutely love that shot Mm -hmm, and

yes catching up to your demons can be a tricky

thing I really love the end of this episode where

Matt is a huge bad fan. I thought that was awesome

Yeah, that makes Terry happy. Yeah, even though

Matt insults Terry himself. But yeah. Overall,

another one of those episodes is just kind of

there. I mean, we get introduced to this villain

and he does come back, I think, one other time,

but it's just like... Don't he's not even really

a villain. He really isn't I mean he's not these

he's basically the DC universe version of as

you said Craven the hunter and It just I don't

know it kind of fell flat for me. What about

you any other thoughts? No, I think it definitely

falls flat. I just I I mean other than the the

moments with Between Terry and and Matt I found

the episode ultimately boring Alright, we are

going to hit the last episode of this coverage

of Legends of the Dark Knight after this. You

want this back? It's all yours! No! You can't!

Watch me! Well, that's darn nice of you. But

it's not enough now. gangsters and a pile of

credits and jewelry you say there were some gold

ingots in there too this brings back some memories

want to share them sounds like you got a little

too close to the derby it's a high stakes poker

game that's been floating around gotham since

before even my time as you noticed it attracts

some of our most colorful citizens you'd think

they could afford better security they probably

figured no one would be crazy enough to try to

rob them 10's not crazy desperate's more like

it Sounds like simple greed to me now. She swore

that it wasn't what it looked like She meant

it I could tell ah to be young again and gullible

Here's the ransom now let my family go Well done

darling dad, where are the jokers there never

were any jokers? This was just a family thing

Family what are you talking about after the last

time we weren't sure of you weren't sure we could

trust you But you just proved yourself Congratulations,

what's wrong darling? What's wrong? How could

you do this to me Melanie listen your mother

and I love you very much But we needed to make

sure you loved us. You don't love me. If you

did, you wouldn't have done this to me. And you

never would have made me choose between the family

and Terry. You would have accepted him. You were

too young. Age had nothing to do with it. You

were afraid I'd leave the gang. That's what it

was. All I've ever been to you is an accomplice,

never a daughter. I just wish it hadn't taken

me so long to realize it. How sweet. A family

reunion. Wait! Wait? For what? Check! Ace! No!

Better choose your side, Melanie. And choose

well. And finally is once burned. Up on a Gotham

Skyrise apartment a group of poker players grumble

about the indecision of one of their players.

Benny, the conversation indicates that they are

all criminals. Benny claims he hears someone

outside and sends his goons, Jasper and Jason,

or Jason and Justin, to check, while searching

the goons are assaulted by Tin. The game continues

and Tin tosses her own exploding card into the

table, taking the bet money. She quickly tries

to make her get away, but the card glider is

shot. and destroyed. Trapped, she hides from

the angry Yang while shooting attracts Batman's

attention. Batman arrives and throws a takeover

to the players, but they continue their shooting.

Using a gas bomb, Batman manages to distract

the players long enough to allow himself and

tend to escape. Catwoman! Ten cats. It's like

a Catwoman plot. it is it is um cat on a hot

tin roof no come on no come on no bad joke all

right so Terry is not exactly altruistic in this

episode Terry is is downright devious He straight

-up lies to Dana. He lies to Bruce. He then cavorts

with Melanie, aka Ten. He does more than cavort

with her. Well, yeah, yeah, that's... You know

what I mean? He... I don't know. This is such

a departure for... Okay, sure. I can understand

in the first episode, the Royal Flush Gang episode.

that You know at the time Terry and Dana were

quits they were done so I can understand you

know Terry and Melanie kind of getting together

and You know, you know finding new love etc.

Etc. Etc. But here We see that he is back with

Dana and yet he's gonna step out on her with

this girl I don't even think Bruce would have

done that No, Bruce was pretty selective until

they weren't yeah I did like to say again. I

love seeing all the different Joker designs many

of them in this episode And as you already said

this is pretty much a Terry and Melanie or Bruce

and Selena because my note was Terry and Melanie

are fated to never be together Just like Bruce

and Selena And then the end plot is basically,

well, we needed to know how much you loved us

as a family. The Royal Flush Gang wasn't kidnapped,

it was a set up from the beginning for them to

test Melody and eh, I don't know. That's kinda

tight. Yeah. I mean, I like the episode, I really

do, but yeah, it's pretty much a cop out. Let's

see here for continuity Melanie recalls and ultimately

regrets having to choose between Terry and her

family in dead man's hand Production inconsistencies

we have Lula shooting at 10 After her second

break in her gun changes shape and size between

shots The Joker that teases the Splicer has the

torch in his right yellow hand and the close

-ups, but his left black hand in the wide shots.

When Terry gets off the phone with Dana and Melanie

-10 leads in to kiss him, her right arm moves

through Terry's body. Yeah, bad animation error

on that point. So here we go. Sarah Douglas replaces

Amanda Donahoe as the voice of Queen. Douglas

played the Kryptonian super villainous Ursa in

the first two live -action Superman films. That's

interesting. And also replaces Leslie Easterbrook

as the voice of Mala for her second appearance

in Superman the Animated Series. In the Joker's

Hideout, there are many Jokers from previous

episodes. J -Man from Rebirth, Dottie from rebirth

smirk from rebirth part one spike from rebirth

part one scab from Joyride Trey from hidden agenda

so So after yeah, basically the last last three

jokers Trey taco and weasel are all from the

hidden agenda episode So that's kind of nice

that they stuck around even though Carter didn't

Let's see here you have George lays and be returning

his king uh... you have uh... daphne zenga as

lula oh my god you've got the spaceballs princess

as a criminal great um... absolutely love this

episode even though terry is kind of a jerk and

almost a cheater at this point Still like the

whole connection between him and ten and I like

seeing the royal flush gang. There's something

different They've only appeared twice. I believe

Melanie appears one more time after this I don't

think the rest of the game. I think Melanie and

Jack appear one more time. I don't think the

rest of the gang appear I could be wrong But

overall I like this one. I thought it was pretty

cool for the most part. What about you? Yeah,

I mean it was I mean it definitely showed that

Terry could be a douchebag but It's again another

Jokers episode Yeah, despite the royal flush

gang who again that's another set of characters.

I don't really care much for Don't know I I see

it better than a few of the other episodes we've

done tonight, but I don't Yeah, it's again another

one of those ones that I just I find myself not

really caring about Mm -hmm. Yeah, I'm kind of

I I still like it for the whole Ten royal flush

gang kind of thing and the whole history between

Terry and Ted and what we'll see in the future

between the two of them But I don't know It's

better than Bloodsport, I'll say that. All right,

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we're back and I guess let's rate these episodes

for the night I Can tell how enthused you are

this oodles of fun Yep Joyride comes in last

place. I didn't enjoy some of those The things

with between Terry and Bruce and stuff like that,

but it's an overall forgettable jokers episode

Bloodsport comes in fourth place again, it just

seems to be It doesn't even seem to be a villain

of the week episode since the stalker technically

isn't really a villain sure Terry had to stop

him from kidnapping his brother, but I mean The

stalker isn't like the jokers or the tees or

anybody else But yeah that comes in fourth for

third place I will give it to lost soul Really

really like that another thing. I didn't mention

in that episode, but the voice of Robert Vance

Stacey Keech He is actually the the narrator

voice on American Greed Nice very cool. Yeah

So Lasso comes in third. Hidden Agenda is once

burned is second. And then Hidden Agenda is first.

What about you? I'm gonna go in the same order.

Not just to be lazy, but because I generally

don't care about most of the episodes and Hidden

Agenda would actually be my number one. Next

week I don't care about at least one of the episodes.

Next week we have Hooked Up, Rats, Mind Games,

Revenant, and Babble. Revenant is where Willy

Watt comes back. Babble is a Shriek episode.

Hooked Up is a Spellbinder episode. Rats is an

episode that should have never been made. Much

like that stupid Pixar film of the same name

So there is that Overall like I said, I am still

enjoying watching through these episodes again.

I really enjoy watching them on the hub I don't

know why I do that, but I just do But I also

watch in preparation for the show I watch them

on Netflix without commercials I'm still really

enjoying the series. I mean, we've got some character

development for Terry's background with his parent,

with his mom and his brother. And we don't have

a lot of background with Dana or any of the other

school characters that much, but that's all right.

And the villain stuff is pretty cool for the

most part. Granted, this episode, it was kind

of all all over the place. Well, this episode,

it kind of felt flat, but I think it's also because

it's the beginning of season two and generally

second seasons. can start out a little slow because

they're trying to Get more of a footing of what

they're looking to do Because they do get better

as we go along yes, so Anything else you want

to bring up I know I think that's it hey close

it out Joker I'm not playing the Joker this episode

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Saying in the immortal words of this episode,

peace off. Terry, if you need some credits...

It's okay, I got a few in my pack. I hope. What's

that piece of paper? It's... nothing.

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