Legends of the Dark Knight
Batman Beyond: Rebirth Review

About this Episode
Never again. Welcome to Legends of the Dark Knight.
I'm your host, Steve Megatron Phillips, and joining
me in this adventure into 65 years in the future.
Dave, do you want Mike? Hello, sir. Hello. Well,
you could basically call this the rebirth of
the Batman. Yes. Brave new world that has such
putzes in it. Oh, wait, that's later. Yeah, we
with episode 27 here legends of the dark night
we are finally getting to Batman Beyond I Think
this will take us all the way up to episode 38
of the show I think yes, it definitely will We're
38 will be returning the Joker and epilogue because
they both kind of There at the tail of the same
thing, but they they follow each other Yeah,
they're their tail end stuff. So and then following
that there's two final episodes for a grand total
of 40 So it's that's right. Yeah, the final the
final actual show episodes is episode 37 so and
as Steve said 38 will be Return and all that
but yeah, no That may be on I remember See, I
don't remember when I caught this if it was as
it was airing or if it was in syndication later,
I Seem to remember catching it as it was airing
and I caught rebirth and I'm like Wait badge
man's old What what who is this new kid? What
what's going on here? He doesn't have the right
stuff. He isn't hanging tough Oh wait, I'm sorry.
That's bad new kids on the block 90s references
But it was like, what is going on here? What
have they done? Because at the time in 99, we
were two years away from Justice League, because
Justice League started in 2001. So it goes, BTIS,
STIS, Batman Beyond, Zeta, JL, JLU, and then
Static Shock is in there somewhere along with
Zeta. and uh and batman beyond but it was like
batman superman batman gets old and i was like
well it was a real and i don't mean to steal
the static shock episode title but it was a real
shock to my system seeing bruce wayne old well
it was nice actually seeing something different
for once yeah i i agree i completely agree but
it was like because and i i think i don't remember
if i've said this on this show or not before
but i know i've said this before or in the last
five years that GCRN has been online. When I
was living with my dad and my stepmom, 93, 94,
so one to two years after BTIS premiered, I would
watch a couple episodes. My stepmother would
sometimes catch me watching them, and she's like,
yeah, that's too violent. You're not watching
that. So I didn't really get, you know, as a...
13, 14 -year -old kid, I didn't really get a
chance to watch a lot of BTIS. So, in Superman,
same thing. By 96, 97, I was more interested
in other stuff, had other stuff going on in my
life. I wasn't living with my dad and my step
-mom anymore at the time, so it was just kind
of floating around the universe, I guess you
could say, from foster home to foster home. and
group home to group home but uh so yeah superman
wasn't really on my radar world's finest was
like for a half a second and i didn't really
catch any of it until much later like by the
time i was 21 22 somewhere around there so when
i originally caught this this when i caught batman
beyond at age 19 it was something like It was
like when I caught Beast Wars at 16 and 96. It
was like, wait, what? There's a new Transformers
cartoon? Wait, what? There's a new, like a completely
different Batman cartoon now? What kind of weird
universe is this? You know? So it was really...
Really strange for me to see something new at
the same time like you said it was it was very
very enjoyable and As we move through this series
there are going to be bad episodes But the good
episodes severely outweigh the bad ones here.
Yeah most definitely there There's there's a
lot that goes on and they do try and make quite
frequently anyhow ties back to the original BTAS
and stuff that will show up in Justice League.
So, I mean, it's not like it's a lack of trying
to connect. I mean, that's one thing I've always
loved about the DCAU is the fact that it's always
tried to connect itself back within some part
of the continuity. Whether it's Superman, Batman,
New Adventures, Justice League, any of them,
the Tim -verse is for all intents and purposes,
even though a lot of it wasn't planned that way
and a lot of it just kind of happened, they tended
to manage to connect certain aspects throughout
all of it, including... You have things that
happen here in Batman Beyond that end up tying
back in in Justice League, and then you have
things that are in Justice League that tie back
into Batman Beyond, which it's kind of amazing
how all that happens. It's a true showing of
how technology has advanced in the DC animated
universe over time even though production wise
and chronologically production wise Batman Beyond
came before Justice League, but it's it's really
interesting to see and I'll say right off the
bat I am gonna have because Steve has so graciously
allowed me to at least edit the first two episodes
if not more of this part of the podcast I'm gonna
have so much fun throwing music into this because
oh my god Christopher Carter did an amazing score
for this series not just this series but for
the Return of the Joker film as well but like
the music in this series is sure it's not Shirley
Walker and her team but I believe she might I
could be wrong I'm not looking at any information
I believe she might have been a consultant or
something at this point I don't know if she had
passed away by this time But the whole vibe of
Batman with this series has completely changed.
It's more... It's new age. It's new age, but
in BTIS you have that classic 20s, 30s, and 40s
music. With Batman Beyond it's electronica and
rock and roll and then that kind of stuff and
I like I like that for this series Normally,
I don't like that kind of music at all I like
rock and roll but I don't usually get into like,
you know techno and electronica and all that
but for this series, it's Amazing and it's really
amazing what Carter is done with when referencing
the old series or throwing back to btas, I mean
there's a We'll get to it, but there's one Aspect
of the end of rebirth. It's like oh my god As
far as the music the animation Now as we go through
some of these episodes, and I have noticed at
least with the ones for today There are a couple
of reused Explosions but For the most part, the
animation is awesome. It's eye -catching, the
colors are great. It's a very, very interesting
way to take the Batman mythos. It really is.
Especially with how you can see certain aspects
of things have fallen apart since there was no
Batman. Yeah, yeah. Neo Gotham is pretty much
a dystopian future for a while. I mean, it's
not really dystopian, but it's to the point where
they know that there's crime happening in the
city, and there's no one around. Like, there's
no heroes. There's nobody. There's the GCPD.
You know? And you have the Justice League, but
they're pretty much out saving the galaxy instead
of worrying about Earth. Yeah, but see, like,
when this first aired, like, there was nothing.
Okay, sure, later in season three we'll get the
Justice League with the call to parter, but,
like, the first season, the first episodes, it
was establishing a new Batman. I don't think
until... I don't even know when we'll get to
it, but I don't even think Bruce mentions the
Justice League in the first ten episodes. Well,
he didn't really care for them either. Yeah,
he was never really a joiner. He was a part -timer.
Yeah, that's right. So before we get into any
more in -depth speech about Batman Beyond, I
think it's only fair to hear some music and audio
clip and come back with the rebirth. Evenin'
boys and girls! Who's up for some laughs? Oh
no! Fun time! Aw, the no fun boy had an accident.
Let's put a smile on his face. Lead him alone.
And get off my property. You're trespassing.
Oh, is that right? It's okay. I can handle this.
Who do you think you're talking to, old man?
We're the jokers! Sure you are. I can't leave
you out here. Sure you can. I just have to see
this guy. About what? I'll explain later. You
better go before the storm hits. Go! Come on,
I know you're in there! Something stinks in your
company. I think it cost my old man his life.
The answer's on this. I'd take it to the cops,
but you know how cozy they are with powers? How
about you taking a look? Yeah, I should've known
you wouldn't care. You're no Batman, you whacked
out old fraud! with Legends of the Dark Knight.
In this first episode we're talking about Rebirth.
The Rebirth is the two -part premiere of Batman
Beyond where it depicts Batman's retirement when
Bruce Wayne steps down and later showing that,
well, Terry taking over many many many years
later. Yes, it's starting off in the beginning
of the episode, you have a airplane hanger outside
of Gotham and kidnappers have gotten Bunny Vreeland,
which is in some relation to Veronica Vreeland.
It's probably her daughter or granddaughter.
I was guessing that, but I wasn't 100%. Something
like that, but it's never clearly stated. Yeah.
And then there's of course news attempts of or
news reports of Derek Powers trying to take over
Wayne Enterprises, which As we'll find out later
he succeeded Probably because of the events that
happen in the next five minutes of the show So
there are these hostages and they take bunny
Vreeland hostage and Her kidnappers that take
her hostage and in spite of being paid five million
dollars in ransom. They just decide that they're
gonna execute her No, they say what if they don't
pay then It's if they don't pay that's how they're
gonna They're gonna kill her because they never
actually get the money true, but it's also because
Batman kind of intercepts Yeah But you get to
see Bruce actually wearing the new suit Yeah,
which is pretty pretty badass Because it's it's
got all these new gadgets and it's something
you wouldn't see Bruce Wayne Batman everywhere
But he managed to subdue most of his kidnappers
with little effort and then he begins to have
a heart attack Right in the middle of it Yeah,
so he clutches his heart and then while he's
being beaten up on he pulls a gun on One of the
attackers that he grabbed from the ground which
freaks him out and You see him rip off the mask
and he's got his gray -haired older version of
his new adventures or Red sky bet Bruce Wayne
So, which they added a little texture to his
hair and everything and gave him a little bit
of lines but you can definitely tell the resemblance
there. And then you see him go to the Batcave
and put it in his costume display and say never
again as he shuts off the lights to everything.
My question about the costume cases is when did
he build a new one for the new suit? Because
I don't remember those. I remember them being
in BTIS, but I don't remember them being... I
don't remember there being five suits. Well,
he has his own suit. The old suit, he has the
Robin suit, Batgirl, and Nightwing in this series.
But I don't remember in the old series where
there was a fifth spot for this new suit, is
what I'm saying. Well, he must have built it,
and that's where he stores this suit when he's
not using it. Yeah, you could kind of infer that
from that but Then you see the you know, of course
the intro and 20 years have passed Yeah Gotham
sure has changed in 20 years and it went down
the crapper yes, yes it did Very much so I'm
trying to see here. What do I have in my notes?
Yeah, the first scene before the intro credits
is... It's just heart -wrenching. It really,
really is. It just... Well, you can't help but
feel bad for Bruce. Yeah, and... Hearing... I
know everybody loves RoboCop as old Bruce in
Dark Knight Returns. I don't buy it. Okay. Everybody
except you most of the time loves What's -his
-name played RoboCop in Dark Knight Returns Android
Batman. Yeah But hearing Conroy do a Frank Miller
line Just wow That was so awesome I know Conroy
can't always be the voice of Batman, but... And
even though his voice might not fit the feel
of what Dark Knight Returns Part 1 and Part 2
are, but after hearing the Never Again line,
I'm like, yeah, Conroy needs to be Batman forever.
Oh, you and your damn puns. No, I wasn't even
making the pun. I'm just saying, you know, a
pun would be, you know, after he's... you know
whenever Mr. Conroy obviously it'll be a sad
day for a lot of us when he kicks the bucket
you know just instead of him kicking the bucket
put him on ice alongside Peter Cullen and we
can just have Optimus Prime and Batman forever
so yeah Neil Gotham very futuristic as I said
very surprising that Gotham advanced that much
in 20 years And it takes, Batman Beyond takes,
and we talked about this a little bit in the
intro, but it takes elements of the previous
Batman DCAU history and expands on it, but it
also allows it to tell its own story and build
its own new characters with Terry and his family
and all that and the new, I don't want to say
new kids in town, but like Dana and all the kids
at the high school, so I like that about it.
Oh god, there's one thing I didn't... It might
just be me reading too much into it, and it might
be me pausing it at a certain point that I probably
shouldn't have, but if you pause the train scene
where the Joker tries to steal the woman's purse,
if you pause it at just the right moment, it
looks like he's going to sexually assault her.
Because of where his hand is. Bruce Tim voices
the lead Joker. It's fun time. I Love that Bruce
did that. I thought that was great and he kind
of does it throughout the whole thing when that
lead Joker shows up But it's very Okay, it's
not dark Hamill, but it's more and it's Bruce
in his own voice He's not trying to put a voice
on at all, but Just some of the inflections.
I'm like, hey, it's an updated version of Hamill
little bit and the theme song the theme song
in the in the introduction that theme song is
amazing oh no no it the tones in it or it has
some classic kind of instrumentals and then the
all the techno music that it is and There's one
there's nothing though. Well, I do love I Do
love about about rebirth part one is Well, I
do like it. It's just one of those things where
I have to call something into question here is
how the hell Did old -ass Bruce Wayne get all
the way out to the out there to the gates of
the property without keeling over? And yes, I
know he is the goddamn Batman, but he's old as
hell now like how how was he out there? when
Terry and the Joker's first Come upon to the
property like Is that what he does? He's his
own security guard? He just walks his property
every night? You would think he would have had
like a million heart attacks by now. I think
it's just him protecting his stuff. Yeah, yeah.
The bat's stuck in the clock and poof, the cave
is exposed. with the animation in this the way
they went about the background colors for non
-descript characters or even the ones that are
in focus like Dana or Chelsea or any of those
characters any of the new characters at nightclubs
or when they're in the dark area I love that
they use blues and purples to show the back like
like when I Always thought Terry's jacket was
purple and white because I always used to see
him in the cave before he puts the suit on and
obviously in the real light. I love how they
did that background change. I thought that was
a really, really awesome color scheme to fit
that. Let's see here, what else? The music that
ends this episode, it's wonderful cliffhanger.
it's not a done done done but it's one of those
things where oh my god what's going to happen
now because terry says you're not batman you're
just some whacked out old man or something he
says something along those lines it'll be in
the audio but uh it's just one of those things
where this first episode was really really good
Yeah, I Not only enjoy the the seeing what happened
to him after the animated series But I really
like seeing the the transformation and seeing
that you know, this horrific thing has happened
to him And then you see this troubled boy that
Clearly is in way over his head and despite the
fact that Wayne is old and decrepit. He still...
He still has it. Yeah. Yeah, he does. Because
Terry even says, oh, I wonder you could fight
your Batman. He says, was. Yeah, I was Batman.
Yeah, it just... This first two -part are just,
well, I really enjoy it. It kills me to watch
it. Because of the continuity, because of what
has already happened, it's just, it's so good,
but it's so, it like pulls in your heartstrings
so much. Really does. Any other notes on part
one? No, I think that covers it. Bet it amplifies
your strength by at least 10 to 1. I told you
not to touch it. But aren't you gonna go to...
No. You built that company, and now Powers is
making nerve gas there. You gotta do something.
You're Batman. I was Batman. Give this to Commissioner
Barbara Gordon. Tell her I sent you. I took care
of his old man, didn't I? Little early for Halloween.
But just in time for fall Yeah broom closet on
the north wall can you get to it a broom closet
do it now I'm a sitting duck hope you're happy
the far wall put your hand against it press hard
place remember then you'd know where they'd be
loading a hover transport wouldn't you forget
it you're coming back here Powers is shipping
out the virus tonight it's gotta be stopped I'll
call the police let them handle it I can do it
I'll shut down the suit again and this time it'll
be for good I read up on you mr. Wayne I know
how you lost your folks the guy who murdered
my dad is on that transport this is my one chance
to nail him The hoverpads are in the northeast
sector. Wish me luck. Good luck. You're pretty
strong, but some clown rude thinks he's Batman.
I am Batman! So picking up where we left off
in part one with Rebirth part two, I love the
beginning scene with Terry and Bruce. Terry has
such a fresh perspective to Bruce and it's very
cool seeing that And it's really interesting
to see and if I hadn't already seen epilogue
Well, I didn't see epilogue until after this
series was after Batmanbound was over but in
regards to how the GCR and has done the podcast
coverage with JL and JL you and now bet you know,
BTIS and Batman Beyond. If I hadn't already seen
Epilogue, I would have still probably quite,
even though because I have seen it, I would have
still probably questioned of how Warren is his
father, since Warren and Mary both have reddish
hair and Terry and Matt have black hair. No,
I know certain kids don't always, you know, pick
up on their parental genes, but At least some
things do, so it's kind of like, who is his father?
We'll find out later. Yo, everybody on the pool.
Yeah. The cheating pool. Yes. And I love how
green and raw Terry is in the suit when he first
puts it on, but it should have lasted a little
bit longer. Terry is no Bruce Wayne. And we see
that as the episodes today will go on where when
he'll face Ink, he's not thinking on his feet
at all. And we'll get to that, but I do like
seeing him learn how to use the suit. Yeah, that
is kind of interesting seeing him not know what
he's doing and then, you know, of course having
Bruce lock him out. Yeah. Which is... Hilarious.
Mr. Wayne, they're gonna kill me! You gotta do
something! I don't have to do anything. And the
accident with Harry that Powers shows the Kasnian
guy... I know Powers is basically explaining
what the images are, but... If it's dust to dust,
I really don't want to see what that last image
was that he showed that guy. It was just so creepy.
And we have Mr. Sulu as Mr. Fix. Yeah, see that's
funny because I didn't realize that. Oh no, I
realized it. I've seen George a in I've heard
his voice in many different roles since this
oh my Yeah, he was Alpha try on and one of the
animated. I think it was in Transformers animated
No, he was Yoki John. Yeah, that's right. He
was he was Alpha try on and transformers prime
But yeah, I mean to guys with to Kay's voice
is is unmistakable I like when they catch Batman
on the ledge a little early for Halloween but
just in time for fall I like that it's interesting
it's an interesting concept the emotions between
Bruce and Terry even though they just met because
both of their lives Some of it mirrors each other
and you can see that Bruce is still pained Over
some of probably a lot of the decisions. He's
made in his life I mean, I I don't think Bruce
Wayne is pained over the decision that he became
Batman and defended the city for God knows how
long but they're just Some things where it's
like Like oh the emotional scene was when Terry
said I've read up on you and about your parents.
The character designs and backgrounds in this
series are amazing. I love how fluid the animation
is. What do you think of the character designs
and the city itself? I mean, Gotham... This ain't
your daddy's Gotham anymore. No, and I actually
find it quite interesting to... For one, I really
like the new... The the new aesthetic to everything
It's just it's so much more interesting Seeing
seeing like the new take on the buildings the
new tech the new suit It's it's a breath of fresh
air to the the Batman mythos Yeah, it's um It's
very very awesome and very it looks so it's so
well done. It really really is What else did
I ever written down here for for a part? Okay
The whole thing with powers it basically mimics
Batman and the Joker Sure Terry through the canister,
but powers was the one that shot at it causing
his own accident Yeah I know the guy had a gun.
I know what Bruce, Tim and company were going
for. To kinda homage the Joker origin a little
bit there. But seriously, if you have a gun in
your hand and you see something flying at you,
you're going to immediately shoot it. Really?
Eh, he's a villain. Wouldn't you have just...
Yeah, I know. And I love it, the fight between
Fix and Batman. He's like, you're pretty good
for some guy who thinks he's Batman. I am Batman.
You're pretty good for some kid who thinks he's
Batman. There's so many memorable lines in this
show. I'm sorry, it's so painstakingly good.
It is very good, and the Batsuit itself, I mean...
It's just it's you know, I don't want to jump
ahead but some villains may miss the cape and
the ears are too pointy but the bat beyond suit
is designed for a futuristic crime fighter and
I know Bruce originally designed it because of
his failing health, but if you look at that suit
look how the how the utility for all intents
and purposes the utility belt is done all the
technology that's in that suit I mean fingerprints
as audio receptors that was cool oh yeah on the
building that was awesome and in the end again
with the music you don't you know Chris Carter
put this really kind of like light thing in there
where when Bruce is saying now I am a difficult
taskmaster etc etc etc he's like do you think
you can handle that Mr. McGinnis and and it's
this like really really light music and then
all of a sudden welcome to my world yeah yeah
Terry says what he says and then Bruce says welcome
to my the music swells into something that you
would have heard Shirley Walker do in BTIS I
mean, it's not the BTS theme, which I like that
it isn't, but it's something similar to that
old style and it was like, oh my god, that's
how they end this two -parter? Holy crap. So
awesome. It really, really was. And basically,
they created a new Joker in this one, so I mean...
Well, in essence, with powers. With powers and
blight, yeah, but... The funny thing is, is Blight
really isn't, and we'll get to this down the
line, Blight isn't even his archenemy. No. It's
ink. Yes. Which is like clay face, in essence.
Yeah, I have a huge thing to bring up with that
later. Do we want to get into some production
in the teaser is the daughter of Veronica Breeland
Which we kind of speculated beforehand Though
it's not made clear in the episode itself it
is mentioned in the commentary Yeah, though it
is not stated in the show Batman's final fight
takes place 20 years after the new Batman adventures
which Kind of puts the beginning of this very
episode into his 50, 60 year old range and then
you of course jump another 20 years and he's
in his 78 year old range. It appears that Kasnia
remains a source of considerable political unrest.
Effects of the nerve gas pathogens and the radiation
therapy did considerably more than just alter
powers appearance It transformed him into the
villainous metahuman Which eventually goes away?
like Bad I don't know Bad green gas. I don't
know he goes away quickly Production notes in
the commentary Bruce Tim stated that he voiced
the Joker's leader Because the actor originally
cast if the part just didn't have it, which is
actually funny Tim showed him how he imagined
the character Though they never stated who originally
was cast Even though they're stating that Reno
Romano was On his outdated official website.
It has him credited as the Joker's leader. Yeah
But yeah, so who eventually became the Batman
in another show, but this is another story. Unlike
all later appearances, Ace's barks and growls
are that of an actual dog. Which is humorous
because from here on out he's Frank Walker. Yep.
Ace the Bat Hound. Everybody loves Ace the Bat
Hound. But he looks better in this this show
than any other. Oh, yeah. Production inconsistencies
Harry Tully gives Warren a mini disc containing
incriminating evidence But in the end of part
one the disc is a full -size one When Terry is
at Wayne Manor's gate in part two the disc changed
back to its original size It's a Decepticon disc
leave it alone. It has his face shifting Would
you like to tackle the trivia sir Sure part one
was nominated for an Annie Award for outstanding
individual achievement for writing in an animated
television production. The uniforms worn by Derek
Powers' security guards are similar to the battle
suits worn by Kryptonian soldiers in the animated
series episode, Blast from the Past. As I said
before, Bruce Wayne making the vow never again
comes from Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns.
Club 54 level that Terry and Dana are waiting
in line for is possibly an allusion to Studio
54, Manhattan's famous 70s nightclub. The motorcycle
chase is reminiscent of that of featured in an
anime film Akira. Smirk's threat to Terry, let's
put a smile on his face, is later said by The
Joker in the 2008 film The Dark Knight. Terry's
comment to ace back off scooby it's me at the
end of part one is an obvious reference the iconic
cartoon character scooby -doo Which who which
was I ironic as Frank Walker known for voicing
scooby -doo on several occasions all in later
appearances. Yeah see after We all know Don Messick
did scooby originally and Frank was Fred since
Don's death and I think for the longest time
in most things, Frank is also Scooby now. He's
been doing Scooby since the 90s. Yeah. I already
mentioned that Batman indirectly turning Derek
Powers into Blight with chemical accident mirrors
the Joker's origin. Oh, you're gonna like this
the Electrified Knuckle Dusters used by Mr. Fix
against Batman in Part 2 are similar to the ones
used by Batman Bruce Wayne in the Justice League
episodes Secret Origins and Star -Crossed and
the JLU episodes Clash and Destroyer What's funny
about that is actually they use it again in Arkham
Origins because the Electrocutioner mm -hmm So
you have the Electrified Knuckle Dusters and
that as well Hmm interesting Michael gross voicing
Warren McGinnis Terry's dad previously voiced
Lloyd ventrix in the Batman the animated series
episode see no evil very cool very cool Alright,
so since this is the first episode of the Batman
Beyond reviews we have to run down at least the
cast for this episode or this this two -parter
we have None other than Mr. Eric Matthews as
Batman. Will Friedle is the voice of Batman.
He was also uncredited as Weasel. And of course,
Kevin Conroy, Bruce Wayne Batman, Lauren Tom
is Dana Tan, Terry's girlfriend, Sherman Howard
is Derek Powers, Ryan O'Donoghue is Matt McGinnis,
Michael Gross is Warren McGinnis, Terry Garr
is Mary McGinnis, Seth Green is Nelson Nash.
That always surprised me. Bruce Timm, Joker's
leader. George Takei, Mr. Fix. Let's see. Yvette
Lowenthal as Chelsea Cunningham. Sam McMurray
as Harry Tully. Jack Roth as the virtual newsman.
CCH Pounder is the anchorwoman in the very beginning.
Most people will know CCH Pounder from the TV
series the shield from FX or you may know her
as Amanda Waller from Justice League Let's see
Cory Burton was Vilmos Eagans That's pretty much
the rest of that's Really the only important
ones the funny thing about that Vilmos Eagans
He almost looks like an old version of Rupert
Thorne Yeah, he does He does very much so Yeah,
this this this is one hell of a way to start
this series it really really was and it was very
very awesome well and see they they didn't have
to go into a ton of back origin information because
well, they kind of already explained it a little
bit and also they managed to kind of bridge the
gap somewhat between all the different things
from Justice League and there on out. So that
was kind of nice seeing that happen and then
getting to see kind of without explaining too
much and then getting the ball rolling the rise
of the new Batman. Yeah. It was it was very awesome
and What's interesting about tying all the continuity
together is you have this series you have epilogue
so epilogue shows Terry as a 30 year old and
we'll get to this much much later in the show
but what I love about this series in this continuity
is That you have Batman Beyond the cartoon series
plus return of the Joker and epilogue In between
Return of the Joker and Epilogue are the new
Batman Beyond Universe adventures written by
Kyle Higgins and art by Tony Silas currently
running on DC Comics. So I love how they've been
able to create this whole timeline with a cartoon
series and a comic book. Now I know there were
other Batman Beyond series before the current
run, but The DCAU, like you said earlier, even
though they didn't intentionally mean to tie
everything together, they tied everything together
nicely. And people that want to bring in something
new or tell a different side of the story, at
least on Kyle's point, he really does a masterful
job with that. But Rebirth, simply amazing. It
really, really is. Come in, Bruce. What a pleasant
surprise. How have you been holding up? With
a cane. Very clever. I must say, it's so nice
to see you taking an interest after all these
years. We're lucky to have you as a resource.
You should come by more often. I'll set you up
with the finest office in the building. Just
not this one. I'd prefer you not touch that.
In case you're worried, I didn't come here to
set up shop again. Why, Bruce, you've misread
me. I don't worry. I just came to say this. Keep
your hands off Foxteca. Pardon me? I may not
have the leverage on paper anymore, but I still
have friends. The Foxes were a valued part of
this company for years. I'd hate to find out
Wayne Powers was involved in these attacks. Bruce,
let me put your concerns to rest. I'd never do
such a thing. Why, Lucius Junior was still Vice
President when I took over. I know. You fired
him. Yes, well. Had to make room for the new
guard, didn't we? That's it. You're showing me
everything. Gordon? I figured I'd hear from you.
Word is you've wrangled a new errand boy. I never
wrangled anyone. Every one of you came to me
Maybe once you should talk someone out of it.
What did it work with you? I? Don't suppose you
want to meet him. You know I can't because he's
leaving you a get acquainted give you right now
I keep it on ice Next up is blackout It is the
third episode of Batman Beyond, and it also introduces
the villainous Ink. Yup. Who is a... polymorph?
Which is able to change into all different kinds
of shapes and objects. Think the T -1000 from
Terminator. Yeah, that's pretty much what she
is. Only, she's a weird inky substance, and,
uh... Think of the T -1000 mixed with the Venom
symbiote from Spider -Man. That's a good analogy.
Uh... But, yeah, she... Uh... is breaking into
Foxteca, which is Lucius Fox's company. Mm -hmm.
Um... I don't know exactly why. I think it's
because of some... It's she wants to get in there,
but no it powers hired her because Wayne Powers
is Wayne Powers and Fox Tech are battling over
getting a new government contract and Derek Powers
Wants to eliminate the competition So that's
what she's there for is to be the competition
eliminator funny thing is this is the only time
you see that company in this show Yeah, but I
mean do we really need to see Fox Tech all the
time No, but I was saying that it may have been
a nice crossover with Lucius Fox at some point
later that they could have tied into. Yeah, that's
true. Of course, it's owned by his son, Lucius
Jr. This is by far, I think, the hardest adversary
that Terry has ever had to fight. Oh, yeah, and
it's only the third episode Yeah It's only the
third episode yeah What I loved about this is
how the you know we mentioned rebirth how far
Gotham is coming this time I Love the yellow.
I know this is something simple and stupid to
life, but I love what the elevators look like
now. You see Powers and Bruce in the elevator.
I thought that was awesome. Yeah, Bruce really
is teaching Terry. He's got to think on his feet,
and it's showing that Terry isn't as, you know,
he doesn't have Bruce's brains. Like Bruce has
always thought five or six or seven moves ahead
of everybody else Terry may be one or two steps
ahead of someone, but he's not that far ahead
of them And then the new Batmobile. I love this
thing. I Love this thing almost more than the
damn DeLorean Even though the Batmobile can't
time travel, but still Outside of the original
BTAS Batmobile, this might be the best animated
Batmobile ever. I don't know. I'm still partial
to the original. No, I know. I said outside of
the original BTAS one, this might be the best
one ever. The first ink battle was very cool.
The animation with ink in the backgrounds translated
very well. This battle also shows how Terry,
as we said, isn't really as fast as Bruce with
his thinking, but it shows that he will learn
in time. So that's interesting. The fact that
there's a villain out there that has the brains
to liquefy themselves to make the Batmobile heavier
to infiltrate the cave is awesome. While Ink
is Clayface -like, why Clayface never thought
of this is beyond me. Yeah, that is kind of strange
to me that that was never achieved There's a
layer of solid steel Wow DCIU bats is way prepared
That's why it keeps all those wonderful toys
yes, I Understand this is a production thing
And it's an homage to all the old stuff, but
logically in the series, how did Bruce get all
those costumes in the Batcave? There's Harley,
there's the dummy, there's... Well, you forget.
They all eventually die. So he's just gonna go
around stealing women's clothes? He's a grave
robber. Of course, there's only, there's only,
like, one of the rogues gallery that... was female
that's still alive at this point so yeah well
harley never dies the freeze gun i thought that
was so awesome that it's still there it's still
there it still works after all this time and
the ending to the episode is i wonder when you
were gonna get around to calling me Even though
it's Stockard Channing, and not that I have anything
against that actress, even though it's her currently
in the series as Commissioner Barbara Gordon,
I can't wait till we get to Angie Harmon as Barbara
Gordon. Because that's who I hear in my head
when I see anything else with this series, but
Stockard Channing does a really, really good
job and it's such an emotional scene. It's right
out of something that but like Bruce would have
done in the old days for Commissioner Gordon
Dropping off the package Yep, you know What are
your other thoughts on blackout? Well, like I
said, I like the fact that you know all the the
old and Tiki stuff manages to make a recurrence
At this point, I think it's disgusting that Ink
tries to choke out Batman. Yeah. And it's funny
that you see Bruce wearing the Grey Ghost's mask
and hat. That was awesome. He's like, where'd
you go? I suddenly got shy. I needed a disguise.
Yeah. But yeah, it's it's funny You know you
get the the giant penny you get you know the
freeze gun just all these relics are magically
showing up and It brings more of that strong
nostalgia without like jamming it down your throat
like ink likes to do Yeah, that was a little
that was a little disgusting Seeing him spit
her out That's what he did that sounds like a
bad song Could be good very well be But yeah,
shall we get into the continuity and stuff yes
Bruce mentions his partnership with the Fox family
alluding to Lucius Fox and BTS and the new Batman
Adventures. This episode establishes Derek Power's
temporary fix for the condition caused by his
exposure to the radiation and rebirth. As his
condition worsens and meltdown and ascension,
he becomes desperate. Ink next appears in Disappearing
Ink, which is funny. It's almost like the Q episodes
of Star Trek The Next Generation. Every time
he's in an episode, it starts with Q. Just thinking
of it this way, she started in Blackout, she
has disappearing ink, and her final episode will
be inkwilling. Yes. That's just bad comedy. Production
inconsistencies are Terry appears not to recognize
the Grey Ghost outfit in the Batcave, but in
Justice League Unlimited Epilogue, the young
Terry and his parents are exiting a screening
of The Great Ghost Strikes Again. However, given
that the film was supposedly produced more than
30 years after The Great Ghost's revival in the
90s and that Terry saw the original costume almost
a further decade onwards, it is possible that
an entirely different costume design was used
for that said film or that Terry didn't especially
remember it as well. For trivia, this episode
won an Annie Award for outstanding individual
achievement for storyboard and animated television
production. Ink proves to be the new Batman's
most persistent enemy, confronting him even more
often than Derek Powers as Blight. This is the
first episode to actually show the older version
of Barbara Gordon. In the Batcave, there are
several displays of Batman's rogues, including
the Riddler, Harley Quinn, the Mad Hatter, the
Penguin, Catwoman, Firefly, Scarface, and Mr.
Freeze's gun. Okay, so... Harley Quinn and Catwoman.
We know Bruce would be able to get a cat suit
anytime he wanted, since they were dating at
one point, but... Harley's not dead yet. No,
but she's not. causing any trouble either. So
they may have confiscated it her last time in
Arkham. Maybe. There's also, as you can display
the Grey Ghost, Bruce's old childhood hero. When
Bruce is putting away the cowl for the supposed
last time in Rebirth, the cases are much smaller
with the costumes folded up inside and sitting
on rock stands. Cast for this one is pretty much
the same as Rebirth except for Mari Devon as
Miss Winston, Shannon Kenny as Ink, I wonder
if she's related to Tom Kenny, Kevin Michael
Richardson as the security chief, and of course,
Dr. Channing makes her debut as Commissioner
Barbara Gordon. Blackout is an amazing episode,
it really is. So far, we're technically three
episodes into the series. It still holds up today.
I have to agree with you All right, I think we're
gonna move on to the next episode The golems
control halo was found on the rooftop fused any
chance they found the head that went with it
no such luck The golem went straight for that
car. Belongs to Nelson Nash. He goes to Hill
High. Know anyone who might have a grudge against
him? The lion starts with me and goes around
the block. Twice. The golem is now in police
impound, awaiting a full investigation. And while
it sits there, I can't finish the building. Just
another example of technology gone bad. When
I get my hands on the jerk who stole that golem,
I'm gonna make him sorry he was ever born. Maybe
he already is. What was that? Nothing. Come on,
baby. You know I care about you. I thought you
were right behind me. I was. By about a hundred
feet. Big brave Nelson. I might as well go to
the dance with a twit like Willy Watt. Willy!
Busy Saturday night you you talking about the
dance want to go or not? Uh, yeah, great. Call
me Think I'm gonna let some twip take my girl
Relax you're saved for now Up next is Golem,
which is the fourth episode of Batman Beyond.
It depicts the revenge schemes of a scrawny teenager,
Willy Watt, after being harassed by Nelson Nash
one too many times and being goaded to seek revenge
by his father. High school student Willy Watt
steals a giant construction robot known as the
GLM Golem. However, after a fight with Batman,
the robot essentially becomes part of him. Now
mad with power, Willy goes on a rampage that
threatens everyone around him. Um... I... Even
when I saw this when it aired, I didn't really
like it. It's your average... I wouldn't say
villain of the week, but it's your average teenage
angst. Kid was bullied. Father is basically a
bully himself My first notice problems teenagers
in high school have to face those were the days
And as we all know high school is cutthroat Yep
I Get that Willie has been bullied and all that
but it's and it's a very bad thing, you know,
no one should be bullied at all But yikes, he
is taking everything way too literally. I like
the animation effects on Willy as he controls
the Golem. I thought those were great, and I
love the musical tones, but this episode is just
very generic. And by generic I mean it's your
standard high school unrequited love story. He
was falling in love with Blaze or Blade or whoever
the girl was, and she was just as cruel as Nelson
Nash basically stringing Willy along. Yeah, and
I mean it's it's one of those things too you
have this character that Has these technological?
Computer powers or you know kind of thing Even
at the end of the episode, but never makes a
recurrence and there's nothing ever done about
it again No, no it is he does come back I can't
remember That's maybe he does I don't remember
the episode title, but he comes back because
Terry is the only one that visits him in juvie
Yeah, it's no I remember it is now It's the episode
where the girls in the shower think it's possessed
and think there's a ghost in there and it's basically
Okay, yeah But yet no Out of all the episodes
we will have talked about or are talking about
today, Golem is by far my least favorite. I don't
know, I just didn't really care for it. I'm not
saying it's a bad episode, it's just not an episode
I enjoy to watch. It's no terrible trio, but
we'll get to that next time around. Any other
bits we want to bring up? I don't think there's
a lot of continuity. There's no continuity. Production
at the end, the ensuing explosion is reused footage
from the scene of Superman the Animated Series
episode, My Girl, in which Mr. Elon blows up
a vat of hot lead off its supports. This is just
the one piece of trivia that's actually pertinent.
is the Nelson character is like the Flash Thompson
to the Peter Parker kind of role, which you can
easily pick that vibe up. Of course, at the same
time of this show, you had Spider -Man Unlimited
where he has the robo suit similar to the Batman
suit. Yeah. Although that series went 13 episodes
and flopped in this one one on three seasons.
So. Go figure. But yeah, there's definitely a
lot of back and forth between Marvel and DC and
these kind of things. Grimlock was in this episode.
Greg Berger was the Golem controller. Somehow
I'm not surprised. So there's that shall we move
on to the final episode of the day? I think so
It's useless it barely lasts a day anymore What
do I pay you people for? It's not the skin sir.
The radiation you're emitting is getting stronger.
Is that supposed to pacify me? Mr. Powers, I
have a suggestion. Who are you? She's new here.
Mr. Powers. She really shouldn't be I'm dr. Lake
Stephanie Lake. What's this suggestion of yours?
I could use your baseline DNA to build you a
new body, then transfer your neural patterns
into it. Dr. Lake, it's not your place to - A
new body? Theoretically, it should work. Of course,
I would want to test the process first on someone
who also has systemically damaged DNA. You have
someone in mind. I've been like this for nearly
50 years, and I haven't aged one day. I have
become what many men have dreamed of, an immortal.
And yet, there hasn't been a day, an hour, a
minute, I haven't thought about death. It obsesses
me, even now. What if I said I could give you
life, a normal life? Victor. An incredible mind
like yours deserves a body. You feel it, don't
you? Right through your suit. The heat is on,
Victor. Last up for the night is Meltdown. This
episode is the fifth episode and it depicts the
return of Mr. Freeze. Tired of having to use
a suit of plastic skin that can crack at any
time, Derek Powers decides to try having a healthy
body cloned from his original damaged one. However,
the procedure is first tested on Mr. Freeze.
At first it seems that the procedure has worked
and Victor Freeze tries to lead a normal, peaceful
life. Unfortunately, Victor Freeze soon discovers
that the procedure is a failure and the people
he once loved and were once trusted have betrayed
him. Seeking revenge, the evil personality of
Mr. Freeze is born again. This is a very interesting,
yet sad episode. It is. It's basically Heart
of Ice Beyond, pretty much, except for the fact
that it has nothing to do with... The wife. The
wife at all. Yeah. I believe this is the first
episode we see the Batsuit do camouflage, and
that is just so awesome. I freaking love that.
I really do. One of the things I really love
about this episode is the fact that... They start
out with The thought of cloning and transferring
a mind and into another body And then they say
that they have freezes disembodied but immortal
head That's been locked up for the last 50 years
which means that at some point Because her device
actually is Alright not hard advice the sub -zero
is before the new Batman adventures Where he
has the creepy crawly legs that come out of his
Android body? Yeah That means at some point during
the new adventures era Freeze got locked up Because
he was in a Wayne Powers vault for 50 years yeah,
so as Interesting as that is it leads to a lot
of other Questions about you know how they keep
him in deep freeze kind of thing But I think
it's also funny that he attempts to atone for
His sins by creating an organization the Nora
freeze foundation Yeah Well, you know in in new
adventures She basically dejects him from what
he's become And that just kind of sets him over
the edge and somehow in between that time and
now he's been in cold storage, pun intended.
What I love about this episode is again something
I love about this series. Terry is somebody new.
Terry is not Dick Grayson. Terry is not Barbara
Gordon. Terry is not Tim Drake. He's someone
completely new when he has a new perspective
on things and even though sure Bruce was 5 %
right about freeze At least Terry was willing
to give him a chance Well, Terry also is fresh
blood doesn't exactly know everything about him
whereas Bruce does Yeah, but also on this new
lease of life Victor freeze was trying to Do
the right thing for once and then powers burned
him literally To the point he was just like I
give Yeah, it's gonna be really interesting for
people when they listen to this episode when
it comes to the heat is on What another thing
that's kind of cool about this episode is the
fact that? Terry as Batman tries to save Freeze,
and Freeze is like, no, I'm going up with the
building, sorry. Which, he's gone up with buildings
before, so it's kind of, still kind of could
be alive. You never know, but I also like the
fact that Freeze had a very powerful suit in
cold storage. Yes, yes the freeze beyond suit
was amazing looking I love the animation on that
thing and the design of it You're gonna think
of those some of these villains Some of these
old villains and I think that was what Bruce
Timmons said in one of the commentaries or something
or other where he said We didn't just want to
have Joker beyond or freeze beyond or two -faced
beyond or whatever even though they did bring
a couple of them back They just didn't want to
do updates of the old villains. They wanted to
have Terry have his own challenges as Batman
and face different villains That's where you
know where you get people like what we'll talk
about in episode 28 we'll talk about Shriek and
we'll talk about you know, we talked about ink
today and I'm glad they didn't just recycle Bruce
Wayne's Rokes gallery. I also like how it's To
some degree, they gave some of them an ending.
Some of them just died of old age or actually
retired the goofy costumes and then other ones
you never heard of what happened. Fortunately
for five of them, you get to find out in this
series. The last thing I'll mention about this
one is, Terry, there's something hot in that
room. Come on, Bruce. I know you're old, but
Jesus Christ, you're smarter than that. To state
that obvious. It's like Blight. So getting into
production notes, When the lab starts to explode
the resulting explosion is reused footage from
the scene of Superman the animated series episode
world's finest part three Production inconsistencies
It's strange that dr. Lake would try to kill
Victor freeze in order to perform a biopsy is
it biopsy requires living organs It is not mentioned
that she actually meant to kill him It can be
assumed that she merely intended the heat to
knock him unconscious. That didn't work out too
well. Nope. After Freeze escapes, Dr. Lake says
confidently that he won't last long since Gotham
is experiencing a heatwave. This statement contrasts
with several visual cues showing winter weather,
the snow that saves Freeze when he leaves the
studio and escapes from Lake's trap and the frozen
pond that powers - crashes through after being
blasted out of the building. Terry does not connect
Powers' blight despite Powers' clothing being
the same while he's blight. That's another one
of his slow dur -dur -dur -dur moments. And then,
of course, the trivia. You have Mr. Free's last
appearing in the episode called Comfort of New
Batman Adventures. And again, they never showed
how His head came to be in possession and in
cold storage. But he did reappear in the comic
books of the Gotham Adventures and Batman Adventures.
And it says that his head is retrieved by Warren
Powers, Derek's father, head of Powers Technology,
who keeps it in belief that it will lead him
to the secret of immortality. Which, that I believe.
Yeah. Tress McNeil replaces Mary Devon as the
voice of Miss Winston. Mr. Freeze's damaged head
is first shown before going through the transfer
procedure. The art style and shadows make him
look an awful lot like Herman von Klemp a character
from Hellboy who Mr. Freeze's design was greatly
based on. This episode marks both mr. Freeze's
final chronological and production wise appearance
of the DCAU Suggestively that he finally succeeded
in dying You know what I'm This is gonna sound
morbid, but I'm kind of glad because the guy
was Just emotionally damaged like he had nothing
like his wife basically dejected him The girl,
the woman that he thought cared for him nearly
killed him or attempted to knock him unconscious,
I guess. You know, so the guy really... He's
had a crappy life. Yeah, so I'm kind of glad
that they just let him go. And of course, this
is the first appearance of one of Batman's original
enemies. Subsequent ones include Bane, Ra's Al
Ghul, and the Joker and Talia. yeah so but I
believe I love the quotes though go ahead blight
says to Batman Batman says and who are you sunshine
blight will do and then you get Batman saying
to freeze you've got to get out of here freeze
this whole place is gonna go Believe me, you're
the last one who cares. Or the only one who cares.
And again, it's refreshing to see how different
Terry's personality is to Bruce's. It really,
really is. Because Bruce has always been... That
hard -nosed oh my god mission mission mission
mission mission doesn't matter. It's clear cut
and dry Whereas Terry has that clear cut and
dry, but he also has somewhat of a little bit
more compassion As the new Batman, so that's
also what I like about this series Yeah There's
just there's so much Awesomeness is so far in
the series. I mean Gollum aside. It's it's you
you have four knockout episodes already Yeah,
I mean go look like I said Gollum isn't bad And
we'll talk about it a little bit in the outro
or in the closing of the show But I mean Gollum
isn't the worst episode of the series But it's
just like how can you have us go through the
first three episodes and then here's Gollum You
know, I don't know. But yeah, sad to see Mr.
Freeze go, but kind of happy for him that he
rested in peace. Well, and the funny thing is,
is you have Alan Burnett, who I think had a lot
to do with Mr. Freeze and the early DCAU. Yeah.
And he's again present in not only the rebirth,
but meltdown yeah yeah all right I think we're
gonna kick it over to a couple of quotes maybe
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back with Legends of the Dark Knight. So, sir,
what are your final thoughts and ratings on today's
episodes? I really like how this series is starting
off. It's very strong. You know, I know you're
gonna disagree with this, but... The good thing
about this series is they give you enough backstory
where if you had never seen Batman the Animated
Series, you almost wouldn't have to. I'm not
saying not watching that is a good thing, I'm
just saying that they give you enough of, hey
this is Bruce Wayne, he can no longer be Batman,
20 years later this kid comes in, he's the new
Batman, and then we're off and running. I love
the animation styling. I love the new Batsuit.
Love the new Batmobile. You know, there's a couple
of little nitpicks, but it doesn't overall deter
me from enjoying what I'm watching. One thing
I didn't mention in the Rebirth review, I actually
caught this because currently, this is amazing.
Late last year I upgraded my cable package and
I now get the hub network, which is Hasbro's
channel They've been showing BTAS and STAS which
is for those don't know superman the animated
series since then Just recently they started
airing Batman Beyond episodes again from the
beginning I watched I watched rebirth on television
with commercials But that's not what I'm trying
to get at here. What I'm getting at here is on
television as I'm watching this. I noticed something
I've never noticed before, and people will see
it in the post. It'll be an image in the post,
and it'll be the image where I actually point
it out to everybody and say, hey, look at this.
It's not what it says on the image, but Terry,
at the end of Rebirth, when his mom knocks on
his door and says that Bruce Wayne is there,
the Batsuit, the new Batsuit, is under his bed.
So with his little brother being as nosy as he
is I Really surprised Matt didn't find the bad
suit Yeah, it is kind of surprising yeah, yeah
very much so But yeah overall really enjoying
the series as far as ratings go and Let me see
here ratings ratings I'm gonna put Gollum in
fifth place. I'm gonna put Meltdown in fourth,
Blackout in third, and Rebirth two in second
place and re... Well, Rebirth part one in second
place and Rebirth part two in first place. Even
though Rebirth, it's one whole story. We have
five episodes here. What about you? What are
your final thoughts and ratings? Overall, strong
start. Definitely enticing for the rest of the
series. So many good nods to the past without
getting too gushing onto it. I really don't have
much to complain about. Other than I mean, I
wouldn't put golem is like a terrible episode
because this we've stated before there are some
terrible episodes to come This just isn't one
of them My final rating would be golem at number
five Blackout at four only because the other
ones are in my mind better than that one would
put probably the rebirth I don't know part two
at the at number three only because I like the
the ending to mr. freeze for my number two and
rebirth part one at number one Something else
I wanted to bring up I meant to bring up in the
outro or in the beginning of the show I have
talked to Tara the rising star She's had a lot
going on in her in her life And she hasn't had
time to be able to sit down and watch any of
the episodes. She's still watching btas If we
can get her on I think she was having internet
problems at the time of this recording If we
can get her on before we wrap up the show episode
reviews we will I'm sure at some point when you
guys start rebooting mainframe she'll be along
the ride there with you and when I do some more
stuff on MWIRE even though currently MWIRE weekly
crew is running that show when I when Steve and
I do some more MWIRE stuff if it's a film that
Tara will be interested in we'll definitely have
her on but it's just not feasible for her to
record right now actually I don't know if it's
due to the snowstorm or what but she has no internet
access except on her phone so blame Canada blame
Mother Nature yes that's right but yes Tara wanted
it wanted me to tell everybody that that she
appreciates all of the masking where she is She
does want to record with us, she just can't at
this moment, but she will soon. Anything else
we got to get out of the way? Nope, I think it's
about time to close her out. Thank you for joining
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Heroes Shriek. Dead Man's Hand, The Winning Edge,
and Spellbound. There's one, zero, and four heroes
in that episode. Boo. So, for now, I'm Steve
Megatron Phillips with... Dave, Joe, and Mike.
Saying in the immortal words of Batman, I am
vengeance. I am the knight. I am Batman. Honey?
What? Quick, get dressed. We have company. Company?
Mr. Bruce Wayne, he's here to see you. I hope
you don't mind milk. We're out of cream. I prefer
it. Terrence, sorry to get you up so early. It's
okay. You never told me you knew Bruce Wayne.
Well, actually... Why, I owe this boy my life.
He defended me against a bunch of hooligans once.
I tried to reward him, but he absolutely refused.
Mr. Wayne wants to offer you a job. A job? It's
not much, mind you. I find that in my old age,
I could use a part -time assistant. You know,
a gopher. Go for this, go for that. An ally,
as it were. Would you be interested? Well, of
course he would. Wouldn't you, honey? I mean,
to work with someone as famous as Mr. Wayne.
Sure. I warn you, I can be a difficult taskmaster.
I accept nothing short of excellence from all
who work for me. I think I can handle it. Very
good then, Mr. McGinnis. Welcome to my world.
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