Legends of the Dark Knight
The Demon’s Quest Part I and Part II, His Silicon Soul, Fire From Olympus Review

About this Episode
You're listening to Legends of the Dark Knight,
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welcome to Legends of the Dark Knight. I'm your
host Steve Megatron Phillips and joining me in
this trip to Gotham City is... JfJ and Mike,
hello. Hello. How are you? Uh, good. Having watched
a couple of movies in theater since the last
episode. Yes. Namely, uh, The Amazing Spider
-Man. Um, let's see. We got the Kevin Conroy
interview. I'm still working on Mark Hamill.
Still have yet to hear back from his people.
Oh, and the biggest thing we need to talk about
is La La Land Records is releasing BTIS Volume
2, a four disc CD set with more music from Batman
the Animated Series. It will be a San Diego Comic
Con exclusive for 2012. It is priced at $60.
It will go on sale I believe 1 p .m. Central
Time July 19th, I think is when it goes on sale
on La La Land's website. If you're a BTIS fan
and you missed out on the first volume, that
will also be on sale as well. I don't know what
the price is on that. I'm not looking up the
information on it. It's minus like three or four
tracks, too, though. From the original volume
one. They cut like four tracks for whatever reason.
Oh, that's weird. But yeah, the volume two set,
oh my god, four discs of music, holy crap. You
better, if you're not going to San Diego Comic
Con, you better be on La La Land's website if
you want this, because it's going, the original
BTIS soundtrack sold out, I think, within...
Four days if not said if not say it's sold out
fast the As with the first volume the second
volume is also going to be a limited run And
60 bucks for four discs is not not that bad considering
all the music you're getting I actually I'm having
a friend of mine who was actually going to STCC
pick me one up nice Yes so But no, I'm very excited
that La La Land Records is continuing their DCAU
soundtracks. I hope we eventually get Superman
the Animated Series and Justice League and Justice
League Unlimited. There were Batman Beyond soundtracks.
They weren't done by La La Land. I don't know
if they will redo them for some sort of anniversary,
whichever anniversary is coming up. I think it's
like the 15th anniversary is coming up in a couple
years. I don't know if La La Land will redo those
since they were already done. But yeah, I really
want to see a Superman the Animated Series and
Justice League soundtrack from La La Land Records.
That would be so awesome. It would be nice. They
actually did have epic sound. Yes. Yes. I think
that's pretty much all that's going on. Yeah,
I think that as well. So with that, we'll be
moving on to the first episode of the night.
None. And I've scoured the entire city. No one
has seen either Robin or Dick Grayson for two
days. I really should remain upstairs, then,
sir. Lest he call. Oh, by the way, this came
for you an hour ago, by messenger. They know
your identity, Detective. Who are you? How did
you get in here? You must forgive Ubu, Detective.
He is well -trained. Allow me to introduce myself.
I am he who is called Raish Al Ghul. The Demon's
Head. I thought you were only a legend. I am
quite real. And as I am sure you realize by now,
my reputation for... Resourcefulness is well
deserved. As you can see, we have a common problem.
Your ward was abducted on the same night as my
daughter. You do remember my daughter? You're
Talia's father? Yes. But surely you would not
expect her to mention me by name. Keep your distance.
I am merely old. Older perhaps than you can imagine.
but not so old that I cannot assist you in your
search I get the message first up is the demon's
quest part one and two yes yes Robin returns
home to Gotham University and sneaks into his
room only to find a group of people waiting for
him they hit him with the tranquilizer dart and
he falls unconscious the leader of the group
a man in a jackal mask is pleased Later, Batman
returns to the Batcave and talks to Alfred about
the fact that Robin has been missing for two
days and his searches have been fruitless. Alfred
gives Bruce a message that arrived for him. Looking
at it, Bruce is shocked to find that the message,
although addressed to Bruce, has a note inside
referring to him as Batman. The note is attached
to a picture of Robin tied up. By Rachel ghoul
and his servant as ubu ubu. Yes, it was annoying
You so have to put the three strike audio in
in the episode. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah infidel strike
one one That's two and there's three. I love
that No, the two -parter was great. It was a
real great intro to I mean we've seen I'm trying
to this is the first time we've actually seen
race on screen, right? Yes in the yeah been mentioned,
but right right right he's been mentioned, but
this is the first time that he's revealed and
Overall the two -parter was just amazingly well
done The the scenery was what was was very very
unique and different of the different areas that
they went to I thought that was kind of cool
I actually took a couple of screencaps to put
on my Facebook page one was Where Batman is standing
and his cape is falling around his it's almost
like he's just invisible his whole his old body's
invisible because the cape is falling around
his feet I really just love that style of of
his design And I took another one when Batman
has the weirdest Facial text he just does He
makes this face when he sees Talia again Of just
complete and utter shock and it looks like some
weird Post -coital face or something. I don't
know it's just It was just a weird weird way
to show shock on his face I know there's not
a whole lot of ways to go around doing you know
giving him Facial expressions in the costume,
but I don't know it just kind of weirded me out
Yeah, I didn't really pay as much attention to
that as you did obviously well I saw it because
I Wanted to get a screencap of it, but no overall
the two -parter is great. I love the story that
it tells I Love the fact that you know you've
got this whole oh my beloved thing where they
supposedly had a romance at one point That was
kind of cool And just race his whole plan of
and instead of Okay, you've got in, you know
in the 40s you had Hitler Where he's gonna complete,
you know do complete and utter genocide on on
a specific race Here you have race that just
wants to destroy the entire world and rebuild
it in his own image or whatever Don't know I
really I I did enjoy this one. So what about
you? What did you think? Um, well, I love how
race uses his daughter and Robin is a instrument
of getting Batman You know on his side kind of
thing and then of course Ubu's irritating Batman
the entire way And Race explains in this how
he deduced Bruce Wayne had to be Batman. Yeah
based on the money yeah it references off balance
and uh which batman has since rectified the issue
but um and then i love the fact that race asks
later batman how long he's been on to him and
then batman replies from the very beginning and
then uh you know it just it unfolds from there
yeah So I mean, it was just it was such a great
episode. I love the role that Raish plays in
this. He's almost the like another head on kind
of villain, kind of like the Joker in a sense.
But this one's more, you know, even minded with
Batman. As far as deducing strategy. Oh, well
yeah. The difference between Raish and the Joker
is the Joker needs Batman. In order for him to
do his criminal exploits and to get his laughs,
he needs Batman. Psychologically. Raish does
not need Batman psychologically at all. He needs
him physically. Ew. Well, you know what I mean,
as far as to lead the League of Assassins. Yes.
And then the other part in Batman Beyond. Yeah,
stop it. I want to join with you. But yeah, but
David Warner's role as Ray Shelgo was spectacular.
Yes, it was. We want to get into some background
or some trivia. Sure, what little there is. Yes
These I mentioned it a minute ago Rache found
out about about Batman in off -balance where
his daughter Talia saw Batman without his mask
It's also in the episode Mechanic where Rache
was talking about tracking him down through the
money. He traced it through the through the Batmobile
parts. Nice. And then as far as production notes,
this episode is based on the comic stories Daughter
of the Demon. Wow, from the 70s. That's crazy.
Batman number 232. And the Demon Lives Again
in Batman number 244. Again in the 70s. Yes.
Yeah, that's it. It's nice to see some comic
ties that actually work brought into the series.
I mean granted there are some throwaways but
mostly there's great stuff from the comics brought
over or oh yeah oh yeah there's definitely a
lot of comic influence though yes um why is your
cat talking to us I do not know she went she's
like what about cat The casting in this, I did
not know this at the time when this first aired.
I've obviously known since having the DVD set
and everything else. You have Supergirl in this.
Talia. Talia is voiced by Helen Slater who portrayed
Supergirl in the 1984 Supergirl film. I'm gonna
have to go back and rewatch Supergirl to just
hear the voice, to hear her voice in that and
obviously compare it to this. Well, and she also
was Laura L. in Smallville. Yep. Yep. Yes, she
was. Which is interesting. She's been tied to
Superman. And Batman. And Batman. Hell if you
really think about it, and this is kind of going
off on a tangent if you really think about it
Dana Delaney Was Batman's first? Because of Andrea
in Mask of a Phantasm before she was Lois But
yeah the demons quest it was an awesome two -parter
just a great great story that they told Absolutely
loved it Yes, I agree. So with that, we'll be
moving on. This is a bunch of junk, Chaz. What'd
you drag us down here for? I'm telling you, man,
this place is full of top -secret technology
from some computer factory that blew up. It's
full of something all right. And so are you.
No, I'm serious, man. Defense systems, robotics,
laser weaponry... This ain't happening. Pathetic.
This ain't happening. This ain't happening. Next
up is his Silicon Soul. Late one night, a group
of criminals break into a warehouse owned by
Cybertron. Wow, that's a nice nod in there. Where
all the surviving items in the factory are kept.
They hope to find some high technology they can
sell. They come upon a large crate, obviously
not recognizing the giant Hardac icon. They open
it. From inside, Batman jumps out. Startled,
the criminals attack Batman with crowbars, but
he's more than a match for them. During the battle,
however, one of them pulls out a gun and shoots
Batman, exposing circuitry. The crook is surprised
to find the Batman isn't human. This was such
a great episode. And our friends Marty Eisenberg
and Bob Skewer wrote it. Hence why the company
is called Cybertron. That is very, very convenient.
Although it was before either one worked on.
I really enjoyed this one. It's a continuation
of the Hard Axe storyline from Heart of Steel.
But it's oh so better. Oh, no, well, I mean,
I liked Heart of Steel, but Heart of Steel just
felt like, you know, your average. It gets kind
of hollow at points. It felt like your average,
and I think we said this in the episode when
we talked about it, it just felt like your average
every day, oh, blah -dee -blah -blah -blah, I'm
doing this because of this. Whereas in this one,
and I know that they may mention of this in the
wiki somewhere, that Hardac essentially is the
DCAU's Skynet. He is. Yeah. Because he wants
to replace everybody. But this one, because we
don't know, we didn't know what, like we saw
at the end of Heart of Steel Part 2, we saw that
another duplicate was being made, like a Bruce,
I think we saw at the end of that that another
duplicate was being made, but we never found
out what happened to it. Here is where we find
out what happens to it. The last one he made
was of Bruce Wayne in Batman, but he made it
so well that it almost was... Well, it actually
thought. It was Bruce Wayne slash Batman. Right,
exactly. And that's where Hard Act went wrong.
And then he had to of course fix his own error.
You know, Hard Act did. And it was nice seeing
Carl Rossum come back a second time, which he'll
be back again. But it was interesting watching
Batman fight Batman. And then Batman fight Batman
in Batcave. I'm gonna have to go back on my wall
photos on Facebook, and I'm gonna Hopefully you'll
put this in the post. I absolutely love red eyes
Batman I Have he truly is the Dark Knight yes,
I have a screen cap of it. I'll have to find
it But I just felt that this story was like it
was almost like a what -if story like what if
this thing this duplicate really does have. Like,
what if Hardack constructed him and built him
so well that a soul was in this thing? Yeah,
it almost seemed that way. And I just, I think
this episode is, it also looks Batman kind of
in the soul too, just for the sake of what happens
at the very end. Mmm, even no matter how badly
hard act took over this Batman clone essentially
Mm -hmm. It did not stop the Batman Bruce Wayne
programming that was initially imprinted in it
After he thought he killed the real Batman Yeah,
and so that was great watching him go over there
destroy the bat computer. Just utterly just smash
the shit out of it and then He gets destroyed
by being blasted into the Batmobile. Yeah, I
remember seeing this episode as a kid and not
even You know thinking about it that it was a
essentially a third part to Heart of Steel But
I remember just watching it for the sake of watching
it as a kid and on I was on a rerun or someone
on Fox and Or it might have been its first airing.
I can't remember and They in the very beginning
when he gets damaged It doesn't cuz cuz you don't
know go going into this episode unless you've
seen it before or unless you've seen heart of
steel or Whatever you don't realize What's going
on so that first initial damaging of the duplicate
and being like holy shit? Why is Batman a robot?
You know? Yeah. That kind of freaked me out as
a kid. I wish they would have made a toy of this.
You know, with the half robotic, half normal
with the red eyes. That would have been just
awesome. Yes, that would have been cool. Getting
into some production notes. You know, of course,
the creation of the Batman duplicate was first
shown in Heart of Steel, albeit briefly. There
were production inconsistencies, namely the countdown
displayed in the bat computer changes from red
to gray throughout Batman's fight with the Batman
Duplicant. The trivia pieces, which this is kind
of interesting, the Batman Duplicant's face being
half destroyed by a chemical thrown at him is
reminiscent of Two -Face's mainstream comics
facial scarring instead of the DC animated universe
version or the Nolan. Hmm, that's interesting.
That makes sense though. Yeah, but it was kind
of just interesting how you know, it was exactly
split down the middle Not not a little bit torn
over the edge. No, it was just perfectly straight
down the middle Yeah Hardex plan to take over
the defense systems of the world in order to
gain control of it is similar to that of as you
said it before Skynet And then the questioning
whether or not the synthetic life forms have
souls is a key part of the Philip K. Dick story,
Do Andres Dream of Electric Sheep? Which, yeah,
they kind of basically say that in the last line
of the episode that Batman says. Yeah, does he
really have a soul? I really dug this one. Like
I said, I thought it was well -paced. I thought
it was well animated. The fights were great.
Overall, a really great episode. Mm -hmm. So,
with that, we'll be moving on. What's keeping
him? Commissioner Gordon? Forget it, Stavros.
Your meeting's been cancelled. He's on his way,
boss. Silence! First you transgress against me,
then you force me to descend to the mortal plane,
and now you say I know not what I think? No!
To the depths of Tartarus with you! Next up is
Fire from Olympus. Ow, my head. Okay. Commissioner
Gordon waits for an informant outside the...
Zorbis? Unbeknownst to him, however, the informant,
Yanni Stavaros, is being chased by a couple of
thugs. They inform him that his meeting's been
cancelled, and they chase him towards their boss.
He is finally cornered in an alley, filled with
old tires. The boss comes out of his car, and
Stavaros pleads with him. However, his words
make the boss even angrier that he defied him.
Forced him to come to the mortal plane, and thus...
claims that he doesn't know what he thinks. He
condemns Starvos to Tartarus and a bolt of electricity
strikes. This is the most batshit retarded episode,
although it makes more sense than any of the
weird creature episodes. No, I'm sorry. I would
rather watch this over the creature episodes.
I would rather watch Moon of the Wolf. I would
rather watch this over Moon in the Bowl. No.
Not at all. But that's only because I like Greek
mythology. I like Greek mythology too, but not
to this stupidity. This episode is so stupid.
Oh, God. This was just retarded because Batman
goes up to Maxie Zeus, owner of Maximilian Shipping,
up on the top floor and... He starts talking
to him like oh Hades. How's it been blah blah
blah? It's just I don't know. He's just it's
a delusional retard it I Don't know it was so
stupid I'm not a fan of this character whatsoever
me either. He's just a deranged moron with Actually
mental issues. Yes, I'm like the other villains
where they're just they know what they're doing
This is nice. Yeah, this guy's just nuts literally
and It was nice to see Batman, you know electrocute
him and let him go to Arkham and of course he's
naming all the villains as he goes in the trickster
as he goes past Joker and you know Just you know
and then makes fun of all the different villains
But basically as he walks past them calling them
different Greek names, it was just it was stupid
But he yeah, I'll get into those the different
references that he actually called them later
Yeah, I just don't This is not an episode. I
will ever watch ever again So bad, it's just
let's go ahead and get into the info already
Starpost file is listed as a resident of Gotham
City, New York, but his zip code is 90068, the
zip code of Los Angeles. And Batman and Mr. Freeze
Sub -Zero, Barbara Gordon and Dean Arbogast were
given zip codes in New York, starting with 100.
Which, that's just, I don't know, that's just
something. It's something too particular somebody
had to set their notice. Maxie Zeus recognizes
Two -face as Janus Janus was a god of Roman mythology
not Greek. It does not have a Greek equivalent
similarly Maxi mentions Lord Vulcan, which is
the Roman name for Hephaestus So there were some
writing inconsistencies with the difference here
and the sad thing is these the writers that wrote
it as a married couple I think and They normally
write pretty consistently in books. However,
this yeah, that's kind of major Garfield and
Judith Stevens, yes Some of the cultural references
which gets into more of the That crap the hydro,
you know, of course was the mini -headed dragon
Trying to see how that actually pertains to this
episode but yeah Maxie Zeus calls Demeter poison
ivy Or, you know poison ivy Demeter or whatever.
Yes He calls the Joker Hermes for being a trickster
and a thief. Yes. Well, that kind of makes sense
as a reference, not only to pop culture, but
also to bad culture, because Mark was the Twick.
The trickster in the Flash. Yes, he was the trickster
in the Flash cartoon, or not the Flash cartoon,
the Flash television show and Justice League
Unlimited. And Hades is kind of, you know, reminiscent
of Batman in the sense that he's, you know, the
lord of the darkness, essentially. Yeah, that's
all I'm getting into with the mythology. That's
just getting too convoluted. Yes, it is. The
two trivia bits we have is, fittingly Stavros
is captured next to the Zorbis, which is Greek
letters omega and alpha in the title. The name
is derived from a novel called Zorba the Greek
by Naikos. I can't pronounce that last name.
Maxi's line, look on my works ye mighty, and
despair comes from Percy Bysshelly's Oz? Ozomandias?
A poem telling of human hubris. We'll just skip
that because that's stupid. Yeah, pretty much.
Now this episode basically sucked. Yeah, let's
move on. Yes, let's. What a bad night's take!
went down smooth, Scarface, just like you said.
That's just the beginning, boys. Soon we're gonna
own this town. Last up for the day is Read My
Lips. After a boxing match, the take is... transported
through the halls and instantly robbed by a trio
of muggers. The muggers make a clean getaway
by climbing an air vent then jumping into a getaway
truck. They then go to their boss Scarface who
claims they'll own the town soon. The gang goes
on a crime spree leaving the police baffled.
The funny part about it is I love when they're
doing the newspaper reveals where it's spinning
because it kind of is reminiscent of the 66 Batman.
yes that was awesome that i caught that reference
like right away i think everybody's gonna catch
that reference right away it was like and then
it shows it it was it was great this was an interesting
episode to say the least yeah this was a very
interesting episode actually the last two even
though we don't like fire from olympus or fired
on olympus or You're fired, and kiss my ass club,
and all those other Vince McMahon things. Anyway,
the interesting thing about Fire from Olympus
and Read My Lips is they both deal with mental
illness, essentially. Because the dummy, as Scarface
so puts it, has multiple personality disorder.
Yes. Yes, he does. So there's that, and it's
very strange to see. Like, I watch Jeff Dunham
all the time, so I know what a vent act is. For
those of you who don't know what vent means,
it's ventriloquist. But the dummy doesn't move,
like... That's the whole point of being a ventriloquist
is you're not supposed to see your lips the the
person's lips move But the dummy does such a
great job of it Because it's animation. I know
it's animation, but I'm just saying that it's
a very well done job of not You know not even
making a mistake about it You know this episode
was just fantastic because at first I don't know
what the hell is going on And again Batman gets,
you know thrown for a loop with this which I
thought was kind of cool Yeah, this this episode
was certainly interesting and I I like the fact
that um You know, they mentioned that he is multiple
multiple personality disorder And and so he doesn't
even know until he's ready I thought it was also
interesting that the ventriloquist and Scarface
are played by the same guy Yeah, yeah, they are
that's George de Zunda. Yep So yeah that that
was kind of interesting I Thought it was really
funny toward the end though when Scarface orders
Batman killed and all that and Batman starts
throwing his voice acting like the ventriloquist
To throw Scarface off and then he cuts off Scarface's
hand That's Yeah, that is so funny, and then
they blow up Scarface and then of course the
ventriloquist is carving a new one in jail my
one is not necessarily a gripe but if this dude
is severely mentally ill like he's supposed to
be or has this disorder they would never give
him a knife they would yeah he was turning to
zazz would never give him a sharp object he would
become victor zazz Overall, I really enjoyed
this one, too. So... Yes. So, uh, with that,
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of the man who destroyed him. I know all your
moves, Batman. So why don't you finish me off?
Or have you become enough like me to know that
I won't take a life? I saw you risk your own
life. to save Rossum in the greenhouse. You knew
I'd be able to dodge that in time. I suspect
you not only won't kill, you can't. That's why
you didn't finish me off at the warehouse. Impossible.
I am programmed to serve Hardak. resist. Hard
act goals are identical to your own. How do you
figure that? Picture a world completely free
of crime. Free of suffering. Free of frailty.
You mean free of choice? Compassion? Free of
humanity? Hardak built you well. Perhaps even
better than he could have imagined. And we're
back with Legends of the Dark Knight. So, how
would you rate your... top five for the episode.
I liked Demon's Quest two -parter because it
is two individual episodes but it is a two -part
story. I liked both of them equally but I would
put part two ahead of part one. So my order would
be Demon's Quest part two. his silicon soul,
Demon's Quest Part 1, Read My Lips, and then
Fire from Olympus can die in a fire. What about
you? Myself, I would put his silicon soul as
number one, Demon's Quest Part 2 as my second,
Demon's Quest Part 1 as my third, Read My Lips
as number four, and Fire from Olympus and the
Fire of Olympus. I mean number five. Yes. Awesome.
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