Legends of the Dark Knight
Batman: The Animated Series Volume 1 Score Review

About this Episode
Hi, this is Kevin Conroy, and you're listening
to the Geekcast Radio Network. This is Matt Verbois
from La La Land Records, and you've entered the
La La Land lounge on Geekcast Radio. Hello folks
and welcome to the La La Lounge this is episode
6 here on GeekCast Radio and this week in Geek
that's right we are cross promoting the content
you're also going to find this on probably Legends
of the Dark Knight and Tooncast Beyond and a
bunch of other shows that I do and Steve does
and everything else because we are here tonight
to celebrate the 25th anniversary of Batman the
animated series by talking about the first of
the four volume CD releases done by La La Land
Records. It has been nearly a decade. Next year
will be 10 years since La La Land Records released
Batman the Animated Series Volume 1. This is
a two disc release totaling 71 tracks and it
is amazing. I am of course TF2 and Mike. Joining
me as always Steve Megatron. Hello sir. Hello,
hello, hello. Yes, can you believe it? Ten years
since the first Volume City release and 25 years
since the cartoon came out. No, can't believe
it. Yeah, no, it's unbelievable! It's insane!
Yes. Well, you a no -joker, because, you know,
that's what you are. I remember in 2008, I think
it was somewhere around November. I think it
might have been November 5th or somewhere around
November. The original, and this is going to
be a funny turnaround for us because you can
relive your horrible, horrible eBay story from
oh so long ago. I think it was November something.
Yes, shut your face. I remember that. november
something of two thousand eight uh... somewhere
around you know thanksgiving christmas time somewhere
around there where uh... they released that in
the series the complete series in this super
big box set the you know to dvds with all of
the animated series stuff on it all four volumes
the time it was on sale at Best Buy for like
$75 and my mom got it for me as an early birthday
for an early Christmas present I should say and
I Love that DVD set that DVD set was amazing
fast forward to about middle of 2009 Steve's
like I went on eBay and I got the oh wait I was
opening it on air, and then I come to the realization
that it was bootleg. And we were comparing my
actually bought set from Best Buy to your bootleg.
You were like, it's got this on it. And I was
like, no, it's got this. And you're like, no,
I'm telling you, I have it on this. And I started
reading some of the words in the back, and they
were misspelled. And I'm like, oh, you've got
to be kidding me. So it wasn't a total loss because
I got that bonus disc out of the bootleg set
and then I just copied it because it was already
bootleg and it didn't feel bad. And then I sent
it back and got my money back and then I bought
all the individual seasons. But as I said, we're
here to celebrate 25 years of Batman the Animated
Series by doing our first of four La La Land
lounge episodes talking about the music of Batman
the Animated Series. When this two disc CD set
came out from La La Land, I pounced. This was
before I even had a relationship with them, because
this was early. And you know, this is early when
I first found out about them in 2008 or so, 2009.
And I just had to have this. I nearly keeled
over and died for this thing because as you know,
as hopefully anyone that's listening to this
knows, I am a huge soundtrack file. I'm a huge
music file when it comes to soundtracks. And
I've told this story before. actually told it
to uh... several different interviewers interviewees
that i've done uh... one of the memorable ones
i can remember recent times is uh... the composer
joe kramer who did the mission impossible rogue
nation score i can sit here and i can or when
i talk to dr laura danley and michael mcquestion
who did the time's up score for the uh... uh...
the griffith observatory uh... planetarium show
i can Put a CD into my computer a CD player or
whatever turn it up full volume Just close my
eyes and just immerse myself in the music and
listening back to this Like that on my headphones
blaring it out of my ears. Just it's absolutely
amazing folks. It really really is Shirley Walker
and her team Just do an amazing amazing job This
first volume is comprised of tracks from On Leather
Wings, The Last Laugh, It's Never Too Late, Pretty
Poison, Christmas with the Joker, Two -Face Part
One and Two, Joker's Favor, Vendetta, Pertains
to Dream, and Birds of a Feather. Now this is
the original release that I have that we have
because They released they re -released it as
another I think one disc set or two disc set
But they change like not everything it was not
all original 71 tracks there They I don't know
something got left off or whatever So this is
the very first original release 71 tracks what
is so cool to me about this besides getting to
go back and listen to this music the very first
track and the very last the second to last track
yeah this is well no it is it is the last track
actually the first track is Gotham City Overture
which is basically a lot of the themes meshed
together like you hear various You hear the classic
Batman the Animated Series opening title by Danny
Elfman and you hear other themes from other things.
The very last track is called Music of the Bat
101. Now, at this time, Shirley Walker, I guess
at the time that they were producing this, she
was still alive. So this Music of the Bat track
is something everyone should hear because it's
basically her at the piano. taking us through
how they worked out the theme to the cartoon,
how it transitions sometimes into the Danny Elfman
movie themes, and things like that. And it's
just an awesome track to just listen to her explain
how they came up with the main cues for Batman
the Animated Series. When you listened to this,
what were your feelings and thoughts and all
that stuff? Particular song or the entire song
just the whole thing when you first you know
got a hold of it and first Went went through
it seeping nostalgia And it's good nostalgia
because even if it's a badly written episode
the music is still stellar Absolutely. It doesn't
matter on any episode, in any of the DCAU, but
specifically Batman the Animated Series, the
music for every episode was so iconic and different
than any other episode. Because every episode
had a different tone, had a different villain,
had a different theme and plot. So the music
went really well with whatever it was. Whether
it's a Joker themed music or Harley or You know
a Bruce Wayne or if it's like any of the altered
versions of the theme music. I mean, it's just
It's impossible not to sit here. And I mean I
had this in my car for a while listening to this
stuff and I It's it's it's hard to pick favorites
when I'm going through this Mm -hmm like obviously
the Joker music is the most fun to me But that's
because I can do the Joker's voice and then I
can put the Joker's voice over top of his music
And then it's just even more fun But uh, I Can't
remember if I Don't think it's got this is this
garbage scowl on this one. Yeah, that's the laughing
fish. That's what I thought Yeah, but the one
with Captain Clown No, that's the next one. That's
volume two. Yeah, the last laugh is the one that's
on here. Yeah, that's the one with the... But
like, really, I love all of the music that comes
through on this. Some of the more fun ones are...
Whenever whenever it's one with Batman in it
for instance But you get like the the mischievous
stuff with Joker you get the kind of like sultry
type of stuff for poison ivy Because it kind
of just goes with that tone penguin you kind
of get this weird The penguin tracks were always
weird to me Had a hard time like even in the
series watching the penguin episodes, but they
never were really as bad as like the Rupert Thorne
stuff or the And some of the secondary episodes
where their characters that were throwaways Yeah,
and we're not and I'm not saying that the music
is bad, but I'm just saying that They're strange
the the the penguin tracks like Birds of a Feather
Which is the final episode score on this two
disc release? I can listen to that and all as
I like I don't hear the penguin from the cartoon
series I don't even hear Burgess Meredith like
I can't That's the one out of all of these that
are on here that I cannot envision What the heck
is going on because the music is so strange and
different to me. Maybe I need to go back Maybe
I should have gone back and rewatched birds of
a feather But I didn't because most of these
episodes we know them by heart. I mean we spent
Well, it was almost five years doing this here
on Legends of the Dark Knight over on, you know,
GeekCast Radio and everything else. Perchance
to Dream, I know exactly what that is. That's
the one where, you know, Bruce is sucked into
this dream world by the Mad Hatter, and he tries
to give him this perfect life. And then he's
like, noooo, and then he fights Batman. Right,
exactly. And, you know, Joker's Favour, that's
the casino one, you know. I don't know, that's
Joker's Millions. No, Joker's Favor is the one
with Charlie. Charlie. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup.
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Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup At least in this release,
it's kind of happy, not really happy -go -lucky,
but like, you know, sadistically happy and strangely
happy, whereas the Ivy stuff is more exotic,
erotic kind of, you know, bouchic -a -wow -wow,
and Two -Face is kind of... Yes, I'm emulating
Michael Wilson. I really should throw John Bailey
in here somewhere, but I won't, because I have
that clip. I ripped it out of one of the... Anyway,
but the Two -Face stuff, what it does is it gives
you a different feel because obviously Two -Face
is not like the Joker, not like Poison Ivy, not
like any of the other villains. What Two -Face,
part one and part two, does with the score is
that it gives you dark and light because that's
what Harvey is. He's two halves. He's not just
one person anymore. And then you go down the
line in a future release that we'll talk about.
I think they have the trial. I think they have
the trial on. He's the judge. Yeah, exactly.
Just listening back to this music whether it's
on my headphones whether I'm just you know having
it on You know on my speakers usually when I
have it on my speakers I'm sitting here my computer,
and I'm doing whatever I'm doing whether it's
stuff for the website whether it's stuff for
this week and geek whatever it is and I've been
doing this the last two days I've been going
back and forth of having it come out of my speakers,
and then just having it blare through my headphones
and The man bad episodes are creepy They are,
yeah. On Leather Wings, yeah. On Leather Wings,
you know, the only reason why I enjoy the On
Leather Wings music is because... The way they
bookend it. The way they bookend it. But also
it's because of... This was the first. This was
the first story. Bruce Timm, Eric Radomski, all
those guys. This was their opening, this was
their, hey look at us, this is a Batman show,
and this isn't an Adam West Batman show, it's
a dark Batman show. And it just really, really
works. I know for a fact that La La Land Records
has plans to do more of the DC animated universe
scores. BTIS volume one. Some of the some of
the titles are actually rather humorous to read.
Mm -hmm like pukey Christmas music Or Pie in
Batman's face dangling hostages saved deck the
halls, you know, and then you've got Where some
other good ones that it just passed Like there's
one it's party time Or the the the dr. Jekyll
and mr. Bat There's just a lot of fun a lot of
fun titles to some of these that just either
a make you laugh or be they're just Very telling
of what it's what that episode is Absolutely
and I don't want to just talk about Shirley Walker
here because she was the driving force behind
this. Well you had Shirley Walker, you had Danny
Elfman, you had Lolita Romanis, Michael McQuistion.
Yeah and the thing here is that You know, yes,
Danny Elfman and Shirley Walker, Danny Elfman
kind of provided the main part of the theme from
the 89 film, and that's, you know, that's obviously
the inspiration behind this. I believe Bruce
Kim had said that at one point or another, that
that was, the 89 film was one of his inspirations
to get this off the ground. Outside of Danny
doing the main theme and outside of Shirley doing
her own theme and she does a lot of the music
as well I mean she did the ones for on leather
wings and the last laugh and it's never too late.
I know that's It's never too late as Lolita Lolita
Ramonis Michael McQuistion I've talked to them
before I've interviewed them along with their
cohort Christopher Carter called dynamic music
partners They're just absolutely wonderful people
And I love the differences between each of these
composers. And as we go through the next three
podcast episodes, now I'll tell you this, folks,
this isn't going to be btas volume one, two,
three, four, four weeks in a row. No, we're going
to spread this out, but I'm just saying the other
three podcasts that Steve and I do talking the
other three disc release sets, they bring in
a multitude of of composers and musicians and
artists and it was said before that Shirley Walker
was this driving force behind giving musicians
not only a chance but a place to work, a place
to create and that's really what This first set
allows you to see from Lola to Hermanus and Michael
McQuistion as well as Shirley herself. And again,
having her go through and break down, like I
said, listen to that very last track, Music of
the Bat 101. Just hearing that, it's just eerie
to me. I will say that volume two is probably
my favorite, but this one is like second to that.
Just based on the episode music alone, right?
How often have you gone back and and listened
to this one? Occasionally when I remember or
I come across it Typically, it's when I come
back across it, but it's Whenever I have this
inkling for animated Batman, and I don't want
to actually watch the episodes This is like the
best way to do it. Yeah Because you get the vibe
of the episodes without having to hear anything
else. Right, exactly. Yeah, when we get to volume
two, we've got stuff like Where the Great Ghost,
Cat in the Claw, Nothing to Fear. Great Ghost,
I love, and then Captain Clown. I used that for
an L .O .T. Dark Knight commercial. Yes you did.
It's just absolutely amazing. Volume 1, I absolutely
love it. Going back and re -listening to it.
I mean, you look at It's Never Too Late. It's
Never Too Late is a Rupert Thorn episode, but
it is also... It's also, you know, about the
two brothers. You know, one's in trouble, the
other one's gonna help the other one out of trouble.
And just that music alone in that episode just
absolutely... really resonates with me because
of the fact that you have such emotion put into
the music for it and it's just it's just so wonderful
it really is folks if you've never heard this
music you need to you really really need to whether
it's the high riffs the low tones You know, you
look at, and this is back in the days where the
Joker wasn't as dark and sinister as he would
have gotten in later seasons and series and things
like that. What I loved about, and what I will
continue to say on these podcasts that we do
for these four soundtracks is, what I loved as
these got released is when they put on the source
cues. Like just having the Joker talk show source
cue. Without him actually saying like just the
music itself just having that data that that
that that you know just oh God, I just absolutely
love that they did that that they put those on
on these sets I highly recommend batting the
animated series volume one even though it is
almost ten years old at this point. I'm sure
You listeners can find a way to hear it at some
point Who knows maybe la la land will do another
re -release. I I'm not sure what they'll do But
absolutely love it If you if the Joker put a
put a bang pistol your head and said pick a pick
a score which one off of volume one Are you like
the best which episode yeah? Yeah episode which
piece of music which episode score so on leather
wings Joker's favor last laugh which episode
score did you like the best? It's difficult for
me Because there are good ones lots of good ones
yes for chance to dream is actually pretty good
One of the ones that stick out because it's just
kind of that you know it kind of digs into the
psyche of Batman But I also like the game show
Christmas music with the Joker. Yep. Because
it's just the Joker. And it's fun because of
what it is. Yeah, absolutely. It's not a wonderful
life, it's not a wonderful life. And, you know,
after all it's, you know, it's Batman and he
just didn't get past the title. Another thing
that's interesting to me as we go along in the
next three podcasts is How many different versions
of the btas theme they give us? Mm -hmm like
this one has the main theme Which is the which
she's got the light and he's got the sound effects
the lightning effects at the end But then there
are other versions of it on the other other Releases
and I can't wait to talk about those so any other
For my picks for volume one. It's gotta be Christmas
with the Joker And probably Joker's favor I Do
love the last laughs sub main title though, which
is track 9 But yeah, so Join us next time when
we head to California. Oh, wait, I've already
been there. But no, we're going to be talking
about Beverly Hills Cop 1 and 2 here in the La
La Lounge on Geocast Radio, so join us for that.
Any final thoughts from you, sir, before we get
the bat out of here? Get the bat out of here.
Like a bat out of hell. The yoke's on you. No,
I think that about carries it for me. Awesome.
Alright folks, that's gonna do it for us here
on the La La Land Lounge. You can head on over
to lalandrecords .com where soundtracks live
to get all your soundtrack needs. They just released,
as of this recording, they released Cliffhanger.
They've got a bunch of stuff coming up. I'm not
exactly sure what. but uh... i do know they just
released a uh... soundtrack for the film the
still the still so this is a long film cliffhanger
head on over there folks they've got a time of
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for every kind of tv cartoon video game movie
fan any anything you can think of La La Land
Records has it, so head on over there. So until
next time, I am TF2 and Mike with Steve Megatron
Phillips. We will catch you next time here on
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