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Kevin Smith Retrospective Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back Review

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About this Episode

The team continues their Kevin Smith retrospective by examining the 2001 comedy Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. They discuss the film's reliance on stoner humor, its numerous celebrity cameos, and the meta-commentary throughout the story. The hosts analyze why the film feels like a departure from Smith's earlier naturalistic dialogue and offer their final assessments on whether the movie holds up today.

Imari Williams here and you're listening to GeekCast

Radio Network. Hello and welcome to the Cinema

Geeks Podcast as we continue our Kevin Smith

retrospective. Yes, we are going through the

career of Kevin Smith and today we are talking

about Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. Joining

me on this adventure today is Hard Candy Mandy.

How's it going? I really wanted to say a nickname

here, but I'm not going to. I'm just gonna say

Snoochie Boochies and we're gonna move on. I

have an idea where you were going. I could see.

Kevin Optima Solo. How's it going? Kitty? Boo

-boo. Okay, that's all we need to say about that.

I'm here. And lastly, of course, but not least,

Matt Fridley -Sentz. Man, there's only one word

we haven't said. I don't know why everyone's

saying that. I've been trying to limit my F -bombs

as much as possible. That's really hard to do

with a movie like this, because I think the record

was too hard at some times. It said the F -bomb,

so I feel like by comparison, it'll be a Disney

movie. Yeah, pretty much. Did you give up f -bombing

for Lent or something? I'm not Catholic. I know.

I was confused by the motivation. No, there's

some cry babies out there who can't handle the

f -bombs. You're classing it up as we talk about

James Silentbomb. I mean, honestly, if you if

you bombs were you, I don't think this is a movie

for you for many reasons. But yes, we are going

through the career of Kevin Smith. We've talked

about all his movies up to this point. And now

we're on Jay and Silent Bob. Last time we talked

about Dogma and now he did Jay and Silent Bob.

I think one of the biggest reasons he indicated

before it was being made was he wanted to do

a movie that wasn't as controversial, kind of

just a free form comedy that was kind of back

to basics. Nothing all that complex. The question

then becomes though, how well did he execute

that? Was this a step down for him? Did it just,

was it a lighter fail, a lighter affair, but

in a good way? So Amanda, let's start with you

here. How well did Jaylee and Silent Bob strike

back work with you? I think if I had had a lot

more what he called doobie snacks and a lot more

of of that in my system I would have been able

to enjoy this movie more because I feel like

that's a lot of what this is is the stoner humor

and it does work for me up to a certain extent

but I think that it just wasn't as smart as other

films and I think it did the break the fourth

wall stuff too much in ways that I didn't think

were exactly clever and made fun of some you

know other properties or other movies that have

been put out that just didn't, they didn't, those

jokes didn't land with me very well. I mean,

I got them, but they just weren't super funny

and clever. They were just kind of lame and like

didn't make you think at all to get the joke.

They kind of laid it out there in your face.

And I also thought it was weird that there's

a couple of characters in here since we're seeing

kind of like in a culmination of all these characters

that we've gotten and some of these people have

played multiple characters. Now you're in a situation

where Some actors are playing multiple characters

in the same movie and also playing themselves

Playing in a movie in a movie So, I don't know

I just didn't think a ton of it landed But it's

it's what you would have expected from a Jay

and Silent Bob movie as far as what you get from

them. I Know Kevin we talked a lot about Jay

and Silent Bob in the sense of usually less was

more when they're the stars of the picture, you

can't really have less of them there on the screen

the entire time. Did that proclamation prove

true in the sense of they weren't able to carry

their own film or did it surprise you and how

well they were able to work within the story

that Kevin Smith built? I think they work fine

within the framework that it is and I think Amanda

said a little bit correct there as far as that's

what you expect from them. For me and I I was

afraid I guess I'm glad to hear Amanda say some

of the stuff she was saying because I was afraid

I was gonna be Mr. Negativity on this one because

this movie did not work for me at all like in

any way shape or form I don't know why because

most of the other movies did work and they are

doing what I would expect from Jay and Santa

Bob I guess and I don't even know if I really

minded them as much as just the overall framework

that they're put into I Guess a couple things

though number one. I am glad I watched it because

apparently I was not aware of how many different

phrases sayings and quotes come from this movie

and I've heard them a lot and I never understood

where they came from I just thought it was just

part of the vernacular that I missed somewhere

along the way and I get that most of it's from

this movie now I mean I posted that we were watching

this on Facebook or Twitter whatever and all

I got was like a half dozen people quoting quotes

from the movie to me And that hasn't happened

with any of the other Kevin Smith movies that

we posted that we've watched. It was just like

immediate quote fest from people. So I guess

that's what people get from this is a lot of

quotes, but it was just too juvenile and too

immature for me. Maybe not immature, just too

juvenile, I guess too much potty humor, too much

stoner humor. And I guess I can't relate to that.

So it just didn't work for me. I missed all the

cleverness and the, I guess the more... smart

dialogue and writing that we seem to get in most

of the other films, even if some of them are

comedic at times. I just, I like some of the

references and I like some of the in -jokes,

but it just felt like a Family Guy episode, like

later on in the series of Family Guy where it

was just like references for the sake of references.

And maybe I'm watching it way too far removed

from when it was a thing and it just didn't work

for me. Interesting, interesting. Man, I think

for a lot of people, I think they could say that

Kevin Smith with this movie is preaching to the

choir. It's a movie that certainly is directed

towards his fans. A lot of in -jokes, as we've

talked about. If you're part of that choir, if

you're part of that fandom, do you think it does

work in that there is more to the juvenile jokes

than some people are letting on? Oh, man. I think

that I'm one of the best people to ask this question,

if only because this was the second Kevin Smith

movie I ever saw. So I went into this not knowing

a single one of these characters except for Jay

and Simon Bob. I saw Dogma first and then this.

Like this one was like the one Kevin Smith movie

that came out while I was in high school. Maybe

Clerks 2 a couple years later. So like... I've

never done drugs. It's like, I don't have that

stoner element. And I came in not knowing all

of these characters, you know, except for like,

Matt Damon, who's a character in this. So like,

I have that fresh approach, that outsider approach,

as well as being the Kevin Smith fanboy who's

seen all of them and is now going back through

all of them. And I think it absolutely only works

if you're... apart like it is definitely like

there's a Venn diagram of like Kevin Smith lore

I guess and then like stoner humor and then like

potty humor I guess as Kevin put it and it's

like this is right in the middle of those three

and if you don't like one of them you're not

going to like a aspect of this and if you don't

like multiple then you're not gonna like this

pretty much at all and like so it definitely

like is I don't know it's the most self -indulgent

movie he's probably ever made. I mean, other

than maybe Tusk, but that's a different kind

of indulgence. This is just like, these are all

the characters I've made, and I'm just gonna

have them all show up again. And yeah, if you

don't know those characters, it's not going to

work for you. And if you don't like all of the

pot humor, it's not going to work for you. And

if you don't like Jay pulling his ass out every

30 minutes. I think Matt hit something on that

because you're talking about like with that Venn

diagram description, because you're talking about

multiple aspects didn't work. And the aspect

that did work for me was the Kevin Smith lore

and some of the in -jokes with that and some

of the references to the previous movies. Some

of that worked. But the other two aspects is

what really failed to land for me. I can't relate

to stoner humor. and I don't like just random,

I guess potty humor for the for the lack of a

better term. So I agree. I think I'm missing

two of the three facets for it. So I liked parts

of it, but I couldn't like it overall. I think

what I liked about it was it did remind me of

like a different version of something like Cannonball

Run or those old road trip films. You can certainly

see like some of the influences that he had,

just the zaniness. In a way like the random celebrity

cameos and from celebrities that you know within

the geek culture to his own Characters from his

own universe like thinking of something like

the Muppets, but not as you know much more different

in its execution When I watch this in the middle

school when I probably first hours by me actually

high school I remember liking it and I think

if I had that mindset, I'd probably would like

it a lot more So there are pieces of it that

worked for me, but overall, similar to what's

been mentioning, I just found a lot of it tedious

and especially like... Some of the jokes I won't

say I was offended. I wasn't offended by anything

But they just seemed for what I loved about Kevin

Smith it got away from it a lot and what I loved

about him Was that he talked he great dialogue

that felt natural that was unlike any other movie

that was you know It felt like real people having

conversations and that was so what was special

about him But when he got to this movie, it felt

like he was just doing a regular Hart Hollywood

film like everything that made Kevin Smith in

the Kevin Smith was was gone for the most part

and it was just him doing a Type of style or

a type of film that he saw other people doing

but just doing it within his own voice So like

like we mentioned there wasn't anything to say

here which is kind of a slapstick comedy and

I guess that's okay and but there are there are

pieces that just I found ridiculous to not in

the point in not in good way specifically like

the relationship between Jay and Shannon Elizabeth

with this character which was one of the worst

written women women characters that I think I've

seen in a movie the fact that someone would walk

into fast food restaurant and not immediately

just turn around and discuss based upon his reaction.

It's just like this is definitely written by

a guy. I felt like he's a better writer than

this and he just I think circumcised ended up

falling in line with some of his like worst.

He basically became what he wasn't in a way.

Matt, what do you think about that? Because I

think that's an interesting point as far as him

losing some of the best parts of what we've liked

about his previous films. Do you feel like he

goes away from a lot of that here and it does

become not representative of what we've seen

from Kevin Smith in the other films? I think

Dan really did nail it. It feels like it's Kevin

Smith playing in someone else's... Well, no.

It almost feel like someone else playing in Kevin

Smith's sandbox, right? Like it's all his toys.

It's his characters. It's his world, but it doesn't

feel like him. Like it's got him in it, but it

doesn't feel like him. And I guess that's to

its detriment. But like I also know that later

on there are other movies that he he directs

that he didn't write and then he directs them

like regular movies and they don't feel like

a Kevin Smith movie, but they're solid enjoyable

films. And so I guess it's almost like this This

was his like, uh, Hey, I'm trying something different.

So I'm more marketable and it's hard to blame

him for that, but it does definitely hurt the

film in the end. Yeah. I think there were, there

were some sort of attempt here to do something.

And I think you said maybe show that, okay, I

don't have to live in that sandbox as much. I

can try to do what you do, but within that, like,

I feel like someone else can make this movie

where I don't think anyone else beyond Kevin

Smith could make clerks are chasing me. Yeah,

I agree with that statement too Matt I'm curious

because I know you've listened to a lot of Kevin

Smith podcast and and you're more a little bit

more of a Die -hard fan of Kevin Smith in general

the only thing that I've got is just what you

can quickly read on wiki as far as like there

was some production issues with with with Jason

Muse as far as Jay Dealing with drugs alcohol

etc during the production. Have you heard Kevin

Smith and any of the interviews or podcasts talk

about this movie? In you know in particular and

what his views were on it I don't think I have.

Like, I've heard J. Muse's whole drug relapses

have been a problem for almost every Kevin Smith

movie. And some non -Kevin Smith movies, if you

can believe it. He's been cast by other people

before. But, like, not this one specifically.

I can't comment on this one. Yeah, like, I watch

a lot of Kevin Smith, like, evening with Kevin

Smith for conversations. He doesn't seem to talk

about... Jane and silent bob all that much like

bits and pieces. I think he mentions like working

with mark hamill And it does somewhat sometimes

feel like wish fulfillment in a way. It's like

I like this celebrity and I like this celebrity

I mean, I I feel like this is a pointed question

But I did I didn't want to get your perspective

on this because I mentioned like how the the

women were written in this especially uh, shannon

lindsay was character like what what was your

take on that was that a Big reason why the movie

didn't work for you Oh my God, they were so annoying

and unbelievable. Their heist dynamic, that was

stupid and ridiculous, and just another reason

for them to be in a leather -clad outfit. And

now they've stolen the diamond, so they're celebrating,

and everybody's in jammies, and the schlumpy

pizza guy shows up, and she's ready to jump his

bones, that's the thing. And like you said before,

her reaction to the guy in the... McDonald are

the fast food and his reaction to her. Like,

come on, somebody would be calling the cops.

I'd already at least punched a dude in the throat,

like something. And none of it was believable.

None of their actions or what they were saying

were, they were not believable and just, I don't

know, it kind of takes you out of it. I just

ignored them because they were just so stupid

that I was just like, this isn't real people.

Did you find it offensive or bad representation

of females in general? Yeah, I mean, there were

some serious stereotypes there, especially in

their little heist group dynamic. And I mean,

I didn't take any of this. I took it all with

a grain of salt. We'll say that. I didn't let

anything offend me, but it was just so stupid

and obvious that I just, it was like beneath

me. Yeah, like I thought he was trying to get

to something by like parroting the idea of like

these people being in these outfits or like the

tropes that they were going at but I never felt

like that really went anywhere and he didn't

do anything outside of just falling for those

tropes and Like I don't know I get the idea of

having something there and some of the some of

the bits that did work of course with Jason Muse

probably one of one of the funnier bits was Jason

Muse and his indication of his being the master

of the clitoris oh jeez i'm sorry we had to say

it eventually it's hard not to but um and i did

like the the um john stewart cameo with uh which

is man he looks so much younger in this it's

crazy i thought that bit was okay and actually

found found some of will ferrell's actions in

this enjoyable i don't think this came out before

he was i forgot he was in this He's the you know,

he had some okay bits here and there like I liked

his reaction after he lets them go He's like

that was them wasn't it? And I don't know that

was a line I will I legitimately laughed at but

I was trying to find trying to find some good

It's trying to find usually where it's the opposite,

but I was just trying to find some things I actually

did like about anyone else have anything Yeah,

I had a couple things and basically revolves

around two characters, but they both had I guess

two little segments at least that I really enjoyed

I actually enjoyed Both or all the different

times when Ben Affleck and Matt Damon were actually

on screen I don't know why I thought those those

references and those jokes and those kind of

meta or kind of winking at the camera things

worked for me more what much more than a lot

of the other similar things that other characters

were doing so I actually Would pull those scenes

out as as probably my favorite scenes both the

first time we see ben afric and matt damon And

then kind of later on in the movie when they

make a reappearance Yeah, the hunting season

thing was pretty funny and guzz van sent counting

his money after goodwill hunting I don't think

that's a joke that's gonna make sense for most

of today's audience because they're like I don't

who is that and good will hunting get a lot of

movie money people kind of forget that but I

just think this is weird because I think if you

take, if these are different characters, like

if these are not characters from previous Kevin

Smith films, if they're just other random people

or something like that, would you even be able

to identify this as a Kevin Smith film? Because

that is just, I kept waiting for that dialogue

that made me appreciate something from, and it's

just not there. I don't know, I know we've kind

of already touched on that a bunch, but I think

if these are just other characters that were

not, already knowing from his other films that

there would be nothing representative of Kevin

Smith here, but I don't know. I'm just at a loss

at this one as to what his thought process was

and what he was going for and what his goal was.

I think it was fan service, I feel like, and

him getting to play out some of the things that

he still wanted to play out, like getting to

work with Mark Hamill. He might have made this

entire movie just to work with Mark Hamill. You

don't know. What were your favorite parts? Oh,

man. Or if any, what was the highlights for you?

Don't even know you guys I think maybe the reaction

to the internet was was great But other than

that, I don't know. I mean, it's it's entertaining

enough I would say but it's not one that I need

to rewatch a bunch. I Think some of the bits

that I feel like Kevin Smith did come through

is when he was talking about the industry and

the reaction in the fan reaction especially with

The Ben Affleck cameo and like those pizza bits

of dialogue I did get good kevin smith that i

remembered so i think there were things here

and there that's true but it wasn't necessarily

like you know every movie we had from she's naming

the clerks you had a moment where it's like this

this clarity moment where it's like everything

kind of came together this it wasn't really going

for that like i said it's it's much more lighter

affair and i think his attention was i think

he was probably burnt out after dogma not because

of the movie but because of just the negative

attention he got and Tried to do something like,

okay, here we go. Let's just do a, you know,

a fun little comedy. It wasn't meant to have

high ambition. And I think that's what he did.

And like we said, it may be friend service, but

I think that's something that has made him who

he is in a way though. Cause if you look at clerks,

that is, I think ultimately to him, that is what

he's doing. He's making a, he didn't have fans,

but he was making a movie that his friends would

appreciate and it worked. But now he's kind of

doing the same thing, but with a broader scope

of people. Yeah, I was not prepared for the sheer

number of people that were making cameos and

appearances in this film some of them I didn't

even realize were I were you know worse in the

industry at that point or were known at that

point, but I don't know when I guess this was

what 2001 ish Yeah, so I guess I didn't know

some of these people were I guess in the now

or maybe I thought this came out before it did,

but every time someone else popped up on screen

that wasn't from one of his previous movies,

I was like, whoa, this guy's in this or this

person's in this. It was crazy seeing some of

these guys. There's a chance that actually some

of them weren't. big because i know that i'm

pretty sure that uh ben afleck was in a kevin

smith movie before he was big because they were

friends and so it's possible that he had not

i mean that said it has a bunch of star power

either way yeah i just was like will ferrell

sean william scott i'm trying to think of who

else i'm getting here that i was like me yeah

Obviously, you know, I really like I did like

the Tracy Morgan cameo that that was really funny

and the them being part of a like a drug dealer

union Which is kind of ironic because I kind

of can almost exist now. So I can mention before

it so And like you mentioned before I like the

Gus Van Sant one, even though maybe not everybody

would get that one I like the West Craven one

as well. Well, yeah, I wasn't I wasn't expecting

that many cameos Now how about you was there

anything that you did like about it or anything

that you feel like it did work for you? I think

I'm the the least harsh on this movie like I

do agree that the I don't even know it the jewel

thief are definitely poorly written or just Masculinely

written but like I like almost all of the little

parts of this movie, like I really enjoy the

cameos, I really enjoy the looks to the camera

as like a way of breaking the fourth wall without

being Deadpool because they don't, you know,

talk to you or anything. I like all of the little

bits, but maybe the whole sum isn't the best

movie. Um, and it isn't the most Kevin Smith

movie. And it's sad because it's like, I could,

I could almost take another chance on the Bob

movie. They're like, it's one of those things

where like they're one of the most entertaining

characters in every movie. But at the end, like,

do they need their own movie? I mean, they wanted

to stop it. And maybe there was a good reason

for that. Just saying. Dang. Yeah, I guess. Mean

I think I'm coming coming out overly negative

of this too. I didn't hate it I think you know

the tone of it worked throughout like it felt

comfortable and in the sense of like I mentioned

like feeling like one of those old school Road

trip movies, and I'm a sucker for a good road

trip movie So that piece of it did work, but

there are just some really strong story bits

And it's unfair to see like it's not like the

other movies when you're trying to do something

different But I just thought when your when your

main characters are not funny and comedy so subjective

But if it's not working for you, I don't know

what else is here outside of that to really,

you know Make up for it. Is this just a situation

where this is so far out of the films. We've

watched the one that is most stuck in the time

that it came out, as far as being able to hold

up and work for audiences of a different time

period or of a different nature. Now, I know

some of the other films are very 90s -ish or

very of the time period that they went, but I

think they're also having discussions and dialogue

that can somewhat, I guess, supersede that or

make up for that. Is this just a situation where

this one needed to be watched? in that certain

time period by a certain demographic in order

for it to work and it's it's the it's the one

that's hurt most by the passage of time uh i

guess in a way because there are so so many references

to certain things like we talked about especially

within that industry uh but some of the stuff

i think is still works today like the movie poop

shoot idea of anything like What what it's getting

at with that type of community is only grown

even further Maybe some of the side gags aren't

aren't as effective today as they were at the

time I agree with the the technology technological

standpoint You know when it comes from the internet

and and the movie reviews and stuff like that

That might even be more pertinent now than it

was at that time the the reason I was saying

that as it seems like you had to be Somebody

that was almost following Kevin Smith's career

or you had to be someone that was somewhat not

knowledgeable of at least some of the films that

came before it and also be a teenager or a young

20 year old when this came out to enjoy it but

maybe that's unfair for me to say that I just

feel like you had to be in the right place in

the right time when this came out to really have

this film like work phenomenally for you. I can

see it working partially or like being okay with

it or you know somewhat of a fan of it but I

think if for someone to love it it almost had

to be like the right place in the right time

for me is my thought. Well, what's funny is we're

all in that demographic like we like, you know

when this came out We were all in our 20s and

teenage years It just happens that we're none

of us are stoners And so it's like is that the

only thing that's that's preventing us from going

over the edge and super loving this movie I would

love to show it to someone who's like 14 now

or someone who's like 45 and see what they think

but I just I don't know if it if it is necessarily

an age thing Feel like I did like it more when

I you know saw it as a younger version of myself

Yeah, I don't know like I think if the comedy

works for you because I think yeah some of this

comedy may be juvenile But if I don't think it's

hiding that fact, I mean it calls it out on numerous

occasions So if that comedy does work for you,

even if you're you know, 50 60 years old I think

you could still enjoy it. So I don't know necessarily

think it has to be an age thing I'm certainly

that would help Like I said if I want when I

watched this When I was a teenager, I think I

enjoyed it more than I do now I'm in my my past

self was probably embarrassed that I became an

old grumpy old man, but But I think it's like

I said, I think it's all about the comedy and

if it does work for you I think you'll enjoy

it a lot more, especially if you're in the mold

like I think matt perfectly put it if you're

You're within that venn diagram what no matter

what age you are. Yeah, I think you'll walk away

happy and feel like Kevin Smith made a movie

just for you, which you know when that happens

it can be a special experience Yeah, for sure.

Yeah for sure. There's so many universes where

I would love a movie That's just like all of

these characters that I've enjoyed in the past

Just hanging out like this one is like I love

how self -indulgent it is Like I I absolutely

love that. Kevin Smith was like i'm just gonna

write a movie. It's gonna have every character

I've ever done, and some of them are gonna interact

in new ways. I'm gonna get every celebrity that

I know to pitch in for 20 seconds. I love that

he's just having fun. I wish it were a better

movie, absolutely, but at the same time, you're

living your best life, you're living your dream

right now. I'm so happy for him, if nothing else.

Yeah, the one thing I have to always give Kevin

Smith. credit for no matter if I like his movie

or don't like his movie. He always feels like

he's making the movie he wants to make and and

that he's like getting joy out of that which

I think that says something like if he's enjoying

what he's doing and if he feels like it is exactly

what he wants it to be and knowing that he's

not you know he's doing this independently. You

know, that says something. It's better than someone

who's just making a movie just because they want

to make money or just making a movie because

it's what everyone else wants. Even if it doesn't

always work, I can at least appreciate the effort.

Yeah, I agree with that. If you want to look

at the box office and the critical reception,

Rotten Tomatoes currently has a 53%. And on Metacritic,

it has a score of 51 out of 100. grossed 30 million

and it had a budget of 22 or 33 million against

22, so it made its budget back. Here's a trivia

question though, if you haven't looked at the

Wiki page for it already. 11 million in its opening

weekend, which was good enough for third place

the weekend it opened. It finished behind two

other comedy sequels. Anybody else know what

came out back then in 2001? Big Mama's House

Two. Nope, one of them has a connection to the

film I guess that we're talking about, American

Pie 2, beat it by a million and a half, and Rush

Hour 2, beat it by half a million. That's my

jam. So, that was the weekend that was back then.

I love that movie so much! She's got a lot of

jams. Which one of those has stood up the best

over time? Jane Simon Bob, American Pie 2, or

Rush Hour 2? Oh boy. Rush Hour 2. That's a murder.

I have not, I don't remember anything about Rush

Hour 2. I don't remember Rush Hour 2. They go

to like China or wherever Jackie Chan's from

then. Dang I what I haven't watched rush hour

to probably since the time it came out But I

watched rush hour one like like an half an hour

of rush hour one and it does not hold up It is

very it's very Offensive I think would be the

word to use Or the very least insensitive. I

don't remember a scene or watching any of them

back But if you want to talk about rotten tomato

scores just know that we still haven't gotten

to Jersey girl guys Oh, my. It's getting there.

All right, well, let's go ahead and, I guess,

give final thoughts and general grades for Jay

and Silent Bob's Strike Back. Amanda, let's start

with you. Oh, man. I'm going to give it a 4 .5.

All right. Kevin, how about yourself? I'm going

to agree with the New York Times. They said the

greatest picture ever made for 14 -year -old

boys. I don't know. I give it a four, maybe a

five. Man some low scores. I think probably the

low scores we've had so far for for this one

just back to Matt you probably liked it out of

the most out of all of us overall thoughts and

final grade Oh, man, uh some overall thoughts.

I watched this movie and the last jedi in the

same week So if you want to see two disparate

mark hamill performances involving lightsabers

I can really recommend those. Um Like I I don't

think that this is a functionally Terrible movie.

It works like it does what it sets out to do.

It just doesn't reach for the stars Like I don't

I don't think it's below a five I would probably

give it a seven like it doesn't wow me but like

I enjoy it more than I would not enjoy it Yeah,

I could see that I could I don't disagree with

that I think it it does accomplish what it tends

to achieve but Although, though, I feel like

some of the characters were poorly written, really

dragging it down for me. So for me, it's a 5

out of 10 overall. Like I said, if you're a Kevin

Smith fan, I think it has everything you'd want.

But I just thought that it could have been a

little bit sharper here and there to make some

of that stuff a little bit stronger, at least

in the final. final half. But yes, as Matt alluded

to, we're not done with our Kevin Smith retrospective.

We're getting to his next career achievement

with Jersey Girl next. Has anyone here, outside

of Matt, watched it? Or Matt, have you seen Jersey

Girl? I actually haven't. I couldn't find it.

I did my own little Kevin Smith retrospective,

I guess you could call it, like three years ago.

I took a week off work and I watched like six

of his movies, seven of his movies. I couldn't

Located Jersey girl. It wasn't streaming at that

time I don't think and I couldn't find one at

any of my used or even new CD a DVD places I've

since you know acquired one though And yeah,

I've not watched it all and I think Amanda and

Kevin I'm guessing you have not watched Jersey

girl. Nope I remember being actually somewhat

excited because it, you know, it was coming out,

you know, Ben Affleck was a big star at the time

and had George Carlin, if I'm not mistaken. So

I actually, but never watched it. It's one of

the few early Kevin Smith films I've never watched.

So it'll be a first time watch for me. We'll

see. Though, you know, going in with low expectations,

it might end up working. But anyways, if you

enjoyed our retrospective so far, have any thoughts,

thoughts about what we're talking about? Do you

really enjoy Jay and Simon Strike? Jay and Sly

and Bob strike back and think we're crazy. You

can let us know. Send us an email at feedbackgeekcatchradio

.com. Go to geekcatchradio .com and leave a comment

on the episode post. We're also all on Twitter.

Amanda, let's start with you. What is your Twitter

name? At Hard Candy Mandy. I's no wise. Kevin?

Mine is at Optimus Solo. And Matt? I'm at Fridley

Sent. And I am at Muburi Revolt. But that'll

be it for this week. Join us next time as we

continue our Kevin Smith retrospective as we

review Jersey Girl. Until then, thanks for listening.

And she'll be like, oh, I read on the internet

these guys are a couple little fuckholes.

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