All Things Transformers
Rise of the Beasts Delay and Beast Wars News

About this Episode
You got the touch! Stan Bush here, and you're
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Geekcast Radio Network. This is Optimus Prime,
and you're listening to all things Transformers.
Welcome to All Things Transformers. I'm your
host, Steve Megatron, and joining me on this
adventure into the AllSpark is TFG1 Mike. Hello.
Hello. So what are we going to be talking about
today? Well, I have been on a bit of an origins
kick since my lovely wife, who is no longer with
us, not making a big deal out of that right now
at this moment. But Karen did pass away when
we thought there was hope of her. not dying.
I went on this HTTF origins kick with Patriot
Prime and Mikey O'Sullivan from Moonbase 2 and
Jaws D and next week will be Rodimus Primals
or like I just I had to get my mind off of real
life and I'm like oh the last origins we had
before I did Mikey's was Nemepred Nemesis Predaking
in March of this year so I'm like Okay, Steve
said he was in production at his real job. I'm
taking over That's right, so but we've had a
lot of good stories a lot of interesting stories
and still Everybody hates wheelie Everybody hates
wheelie. I'm still waiting for the day for someone
to say that wheelie is their favorite character
I'll probably be dead before that happens, but
you never know. So we got a bunch of news to
get through here tonight. First up, we're going
to start with movie and TV news. And as of this
recording, November 15th, 2021, we are four days
removed from Transformers Generation 1 cartoon
ending because November 11th, 1987 was the air
date of Rebirth Part 3. Just as Vector Sigma
promised. The excess solar energy restored Cybertron.
What happened? The Golden Age of Cybertron has
come again, Cerebros. Thanks to you and Spike.
Wow. God, I'm old. That's a long time ago. Yes.
Yes. I thought you said you weren't... I don't
know. I can't... Ladies and gentlemen, he told
me before we recorded this, don't ask him to
do anything. And I haven't asked him to do anything.
And all of a sudden, he's going into Master Splinter
and Yo -Katron and... and I drift from... A lame
person vanished without trace. You annoying person
vanished without trace. Annoying podcast vanished
without... Oh, right. I've been doing this 13
years. You guys can't get rid of me yet. So far,
but they try Yes, I know sometimes those those
deep guttural voices are just fun and Yes, equally
annoying Yes, yes, they are So obviously this
year was the 35th anniversary of transformers
the movie I did not know because I did not go
to any of the the the two night Showings or whatever
it was, right? I didn't go this time around.
I went for the 30th anniversary. I think I think
that's what I don't know anyway So they had the
35th anniversary in theaters showings and they
had a stop -motion short apparently before that
hat, you know, they played before and It'll be
embedded in the show notes folks. This is hilarious
Stan Bush as the voice of jazz and John Machida
Jr. obviously as Blur. Oh my God, Greg Berger
is there as one of the other voices too. And
I believe it was Flint Dilley and somebody else
that wrote it up. Just hilarious. Just hilarious.
Absolutely love that. Yeah, I had a little entertainment
watching that as well. Yes. So we have some good,
bad, whatever kind of news you want to call it,
but Rise of the Beasts has officially been delayed.
Yay! Oh, sorry. What's that phrase that they
say, you know, like what they did with Sonic,
fix it in post? No, what's funny is... It's like,
I think later, not later, but late last month
is what I meant to say, late in October, they
had just released a story saying that filming
had wrapped. And I guess maybe the filming didn't
go so well that they have to fix it in post or
maybe it was, and I'm not even going to get into
this whole thing. I'm just going to make the
statement and move on. Maybe it's a COVID issue.
I don't know, but if filming is wrapped, how
the hell could it be? Whatever. Anyway, the point
is, from Deadline, this just in from Paramount,
Transformers Rise of the Beast will no longer
be opening on June 24th, 2022, rather June 9th,
2023. And the new Star Trek movie they've been
in development on won't launch until June 9th
of 2023, rather December 22nd, 2023. That is
a little entertaining for me. I know, that's
why I'm reading it. And I'll say this because...
They They have this this really stupid idea of
oh we're gonna have multiple different movies
of the franchise like paramount They have no
idea what they're doing and That's why their
film franchises blow chunks So yeah, I I'm just
yeah, I I have no I Have no faith in them anymore
Just I just don't they they've botched way too
many times and Yeah, it's just it's sad. I I
just don't know the last one we had was beyond
right The last Star Trek and it honestly that
was better than Into Darkness But the problem
is is they couldn't get the actors. Oh Gee, it
was a it was a budget thing And so Yeah, it turned
into a little diatribe of various ideas and various
directors and writers and ideas and Back to the
drawing board and nobody cared anymore. And then
yeah, it's just I I Mean, yeah, I have never
I You know not that this is the all things Star
Trek podcast that's what other things are for
but I watched the 2009 film. I liked the 2009
film for what it was. I watched Into Darkness,
but I didn't give a crap about Into Darkness.
It was a terrible film, and it was a rehash of
The Wrath of Khan. Right, yeah. It was one that
just didn't need to be made, in all honesty.
And I'm not saying that for the people that...
Because I rewatched it yesterday. It was on Hulu.
I was like, eh, I got nothing else going on.
Let's see how much I want to torture myself.
And so I did. I tortured myself. And it's just
as bad as I remember, writing -wise. And again,
it's Orsi and Kurtzman. And they're currently,
well, Kurtzman, I think it is, is in charge of
Star Trek right now and he's a platoon and Everything
he's put together. I just I can't stand it. So
so how about how about that Leonard Nimoy voice
voiceover in in in in memoriam or something or
other because Yeah, we need to transform back
into transformers here folks Transformers generation
two Yeah, I mean, you know what I Am still and
this was I mean it's been some time since I felt
like this Well, it's been about almost two years,
but Yeah, I I refute like with Karen no longer
here with my Lovely Karen gone Like if I don't
have to leave the house, I ain't fucking leaving
the house. Everything is going to come to me.
I want video on demand I don't like Rise of the
Beasts from what I've seen of the production
photos and the location things and whatever else
but as I've said in the last how long have we
been doing this podcast 2008 so 13 years almost
14 years until I see a trailer it doesn't exist
I don't care Until I can go on voodoo or whatever
and buy it. Oh Hmm You don't know this yet, but
I I did a thing folks He broke it. No, I didn't
break it. It's gonna break but I didn't break
it yet So I Went on voodoo and I purchased the
six film bundle bumblebee through the last night.
There will be commentary track episodes for each
film. Whether you're with me or not, I will find
somebody. I will be torturing some unfortunate
soul. Everyone that decides to download those
episodes. There you have them. Idiot the episodes
that are released in the podcast All right Coming
up next. What do we get next here? Let's see
We mentioned that we mentioned that going into
toy news. We have Tigatron Vintage packaging
revealed and Beast Wars of Scorponok stock images
Now what's what's awesome about these is and
some of the purists are a little upset They repainted
them to look more show accurate. Like they don't
match the original toy. Right, right. Is interesting
enough. The Scorponok is supposed to be like
pitch black all the way through, like all the
dark gray portions. The red on the helmet, I
don't believe was on the original. And then the.
You know, the gauntlets were the same color,
and I think the legs were black, too. It was
very black and red, and then the claw hands were
the kind of purple -y blue. And I find it funny,
too, on the box. This is Beast Wars, The Transformers,
on the bag. And the tech specs are missing, like,
half the stuff. which I don't remember if the
original had that issue or not. But my brother
had this original toy. OK. And I remember him
enjoying this. It is a lot nicer and it is a
lot larger than the one for Kingdom. One for
Kingdom is more show accurate in its color palette
and its robot head. However, the rest of it is
very stylized. for a figure that for a character
that had like five minutes. If that like I think
it was like 35 seconds or something in the in
the kingdom as a drone. And Tigatron is a repaint
of Cheetor essentially. Yeah, he essentially
is. Yes. And I've never seen this figure in the
store like the original. Right. Yeah. Never saw
it in the store. Now, it'll be interesting to
see if we see this one in the store because the
Kingdom one has still not shown up in the store.
Really, Kingdom Tigatron hasn't shown up yet?
No, I have looked. I mean, part of it, I had
COVID during part of the my two week hiatus,
but I so I couldn't look. But all of the stores
are fully stocked for Christmas. Like all the
transformer aisles are completely full. They
have the reissue Megatron, Rattrap, Cheetor,
Primal, and then they have a ton of Kingdom,
Wave 1, of course, and a couple of, like, Kingdom
sound waves that are the little core class, which,
honestly, are nice, and then they have a ton
of Cyberverse, and that's pretty much it. Like,
I have not seen... Like, I've seen... I've finally
seen Kingdom Megatron show up. Again, like Beast
Megatron. For the first time since February.
Yes. And I've seen Kingdom Ultra Magnus show
up for the first time since May. And then I've
seen Kingdom Rodimus show up now, which is one
of the new ones. But otherwise, I have not seen
a Tigatron. I still have them on pre -order from
BBTS. And it was supposed to come out last month.
And they bumped the date to November now, and
I still have not... As of this recording here
mid -November, let me check. You would have gotten
an email by now, I think, saying, hey, it's in
if you'd like to do your pile of loot or whatever
from BBTS. Yeah, and I have the pile of loot.
The thing is, I'm trying to get the figure for
myself and for my son. I understand that. Yeah,
because he likes the tiger. Right. I and plus
I'm trying to just complete my set like I've
seen waspinator in the store. I've seen shadow
panther in the store I saw those like as like
two days ago and So I've seen those but I have
not like I said, I've not seen a Tigatron and
he's still on pre -order from BBTS which is hilarious
because legacy which is the next Squad of stuff
coming out The only one that I'm even remotely
interested in from legacy is laser optimus prime
Mm -hmm, but the sad thing is I don't want the
trailer. I just want the prime Like I don't have
any need like I have the Walmart edition of optimus
prime from From war for Cybertron like the Netflix
version. Mm -hmm And he came with two of the
weaponizers instead of the trailer, which I was
fine with because I don't have room for the trailers.
Yeah. For I don't have room for base building.
So like I just want the figure like the character
themselves. Like so if I could get my hands on
just laser Optimus Prime without the trailer
of this legacy class, I would. I'm still waiting
on confirmation for. some other Beast Wars figures
like Tarantulas, Inferno, and Transmetal 2 Megatron
from that. But yeah, so anyways, yeah, like I
said, I still haven't seen Kingdom Tigatron at
all. And I'm quite sad about it because that's
that. And Terror Soar. And I'm just waiting on
now at this point. I mean, I have Ravage now,
too, from Beast Wars, which Which is hilarious
because he goes for like 90 on eBay now. You
mean covert agent Ravage? Even though he's still
in stock at Hasbro Pulse for $52 .99? Yeah, people
are buying him though in bulk because on some
place somewhere because they don't have a...
Limit in a particular place because people were
talking about it on all sparks page about how
they Somebody had like was saying. Oh, yeah,
I got 30 of them so that I can try and you know
Scalp it essentially. Yeah like scumbags Yeah
anyways the last bit of toy news. I did not share
with you because huge Grain of Salt, and you
know how I hate... I hate Grain of Salt. ...us
doing this rumor thing. Huge Grain of Salt. Possible
Transformers Kingdom Core Class Hot Rod Release.
This was posted somewhere on Twitter November
12th by Unrivaled Collectibles. The following
items are open for pre -order. Backorder. Click
and follow, blah blah blah blah blah. One, pre
-order, Hasbro, Takara Tomy, Takara Tomy, TFWs,
WFC, Kingdom, Core Class, Hot Rod, or, and I
love this, Hot Rod. So Hot Rod's capital, capitalize
H, capitalize R, space in between, or Hot Rod,
capital H, all one word, no space, no capital
R. So that's a huge, huge grain of salt. We're
not spending any time on that. What I do really
want to spend some time on is these this is we're
way late on this one folks This was posted October
21st over on the all spark but Hasbro and Transformers
and whatever else they're releasing new official
g1 sound wave and Beast Wars limited posters
for purchase the sound wave comes in Yellow and
red which I think is rare. Have you seen these?
Yes, okay So with yellow, it's him and buzz saw
with his yellow eyes. So toy accuracy with red,
it's him and laser beak with cartoon accurate
red eyes. However, his chest piece is not. OK,
it's not. I know it's stylized. Now, if you go
to the third image, it's of course it's Beast
Wars. It's it's your bag. It's it's Beast Wars.
Yes, yes, yes, yes. That that is a cool, cool
image. I kind of like the alternate version,
though. Little more the great out the third the
the one right below the red sound wave Mm -hmm.
I kind of like that one a little more Wow, so
I like it, but I like the other one, but I think
it's because it's more like pronounced color
Yeah, yeah, but I like I like them both. Yeah,
I like them both I'm just saying like the whole
with the Maximals and the this and the that and
the whatever is so cool. I think it's a little
weird though. It's only got like four. Yeah,
it's got Optimus Primal. It's got Cheetor, Tigatron
and Blackarachnia. I'd be fine if they released
a second one that came with like Predacons. Yeah,
well, I mean Predacons and a Maximal like Dinobot
or something in place of Blackarachnia. Yeah,
absolutely, but I love this poster. Yeah, it's
so cool. So very very cool Alright folks and
the final thing I have for tonight is Actually,
do I have two final things or just this one I
did finally grab the shockwave Funko pop. So
there's that we can talk about that on a different
show But I interviewed Stan Bush a few weeks
ago. He's got his Stan Bush 10 CD collection,
the Stan Bush collection, coming out this holiday
season. And he sent me a box set. I cannot believe
it. I didn't even expect him to send me anything.
Because the funny thing about this 10 issue,
10 CD box set, which is what I mentioned with
him on the interview, though we did go back and
listen to that, folks. It'll be in the show notes
if you want to listen to that. Half of these
albums, He's already sent me and they're in storage
somewhere because every time he released the
new release He would send me one for review and
he would sign them So I have half of this collection
already However, what I'm going to do is and
this is what I told him I would do if I got if
he sent me this I will do an album review for
each of the ten albums now some of these I have
never actually heard because as we all know and
I will defend stand till my dying breath He's
not just the Transformers guy, but that's what
people know him from that's what people know
him for The first album in this is every beat
of my heart No, it has nothing to do with with
any other 80s person the child within call to
action people might remember call to action because
that's where the 1997 you've got the touch remix
is that's where never surrender is never surrender
is This also has the dare 1997 remix interesting
It has ground zero which was the BotCon theme
from 97 and then we get to shine which again
is another album that I have never There's nothing
on it. So this is all gonna be all fresh music
reviews from me folks written reviews on the
on the on the website freaky cast radio calm
And then we got Stan Bush and Baraj Heavens.
So there's that one. And then 2007 to 2010 is
where I started getting stuff from him. So In
This Life, which features the special bonus tracks
of The Touch from Transformers, the movie, and
Till All Are One, Transformers theme. Till All
Are One is basically ground zero except for Transformers
because in 2007, that's what they were doing
for The movie and whatever else it was with his
involvement with the first film and then there's
dare to dream from 2010 from 2014 I think 2014
is the ultimate and then we have changed the
world from 2017 which includes the touch dare
from transformers to movie this one also has
Yeah, I need to really yeah, this is another
one I Is in a weird place but anyway, and then
the final one we have is the most recent release
dare to dream which includes I'm trying to see
if there's a specific Heat of the battle he used
that they used for a transformers thing for at
one point or another but thank you so much Stan
for sending this I will be Getting all these
reviews done up as soon as I possibly can because
I am in the midst of moving apartments and Restarting
my life and all that other good stuff and whatever
other stuff you want to stuff in the stuff We
will be doing at some point most likely after
Rodimus primal's origins we will be doing Beast
Wars number nine for the pull bag and a GTF because
we finally get the scold story Yay scold in the
IDW transformers Beast Wars comic like IDW Transformers
Beast Wars. So yeah, that's what's going on,
folks. With all things Transformers, it's just
been, you know, a bunch of stuff all at once
just happening, happening, happening. And then
I know TFCon 2021 in Canada is happening in December.
Go back to Protoman's Origins episode to find
out. the exact dates because I don't have those
in front of me at the moment, folks. And then
I think it's in March also here in the USA. I
forget where, but I think it's March 20 -something
to 20 -something next year that they're doing
it, so. Interesting. So far as I know, no word
on BotCon when BotCon is going to come back.
I think it's next year. Yeah, I think it's next
year too. I'm just saying there hasn't been any
Definitive definitive announcement or I haven't
seen any definitive ad on Facebook or anything
like that so What are you got going on with your
transformers stuff lately? Well, I have ravage
Covert agent the ravage at your service So yeah,
I've really enjoyed that. It looks awesome. And
then the G1 cassette. Yeah, Decepticons Forever
Ravage. Yeah, he's basically the same as the
original one that came out in the 80s. Yeah.
Except it's plastic and it's a little bit flimsier
in certain areas, but it's it basically is the
exact same toy. Which is not a problem. I generally
I kind of like it, but that's more so just because.
It's just it's nostalgia. Absolutely, so yeah,
I that's that's what I've been up to. As far
as that I'm getting ready to rebuild my. My stash
in my cupboard now that my office is set back
up. Yay. Awesome. Yep. Alright folks, I think
that's gonna do it for us here on All Things
Transformers. Unless you have anything else you
want to bring up, I don't think we... Well, I
mean, there's the Shockwave Labs. I don't know
if you've seen that. So, Shockwave Labs, there's
a lot of things that third parties are making
now at this point. or Transformers. One of them
being they have an upgrade kit for Studio Series
Retgar, HasLab, Unicron, and Kingdom Optimus
Primal. And the kit for the Studio Series 86
Retgar includes junk props inspired from the
movie. Right. Unicron has a planet light kit,
a remote controlled LED unit for the central
part of the Maw, where it opens. So it changes
color, like you can basically make it any color
you want. And then the shield for Kingdom Primal,
it's the one seen from Victory, where it's, or
coming of the Fusors part two. It's got the clear
translucent plastic and then the the metal look
to the rest of it and then you can hold on to
and it's got two pegs or actually not two pegs
but several pegs on the the backside where you
can kind of maneuver the the handle Very cool.
Very cool. So yeah, I love it when they they
have stuff like that Just because it's something
original and adds to it. So what you're saying
is you love it when a plan comes together Yes.
And then, of course, Cyberverse Season 4. I was
going to mention that. I completely forgot about
it. Did you watch it? No, not yet. I heard people
were like, oh, basically Megatron. But it's a
trypticon. They gave a personality, basically.
Yeah, I mean, I don't want to spoil it for anybody.
But they got the Dinobots. Yeah, they get the
dino bots and they get a bunch of other stuff
and I really dug the first one I thought it was
cool. I thought it was great I can't wait until
it eventually hits Netflix because I'm hoping
Netflix will add season 3 because currently as
of this recording Netflix still only has the
first two seasons of cyberverse on there. So
Hopefully with these movies they will finally
add season 3 Don't know when the next one's gonna
come out. I do know that a bunch of people were
bitching about this thing though because Hasbro
and Transformers region locked it so not everyone
got to watch it It was everyone was so pissed
and I'm like, why would you do that? It's like
region locked You know discs. Mm -hmm, which
by the way No, I was gonna say one of our Good
friends, Draconis, sent me some of the Transformers
RID. Oh, very cool. Different region episodes,
which I plan to review in the near, near future.
Very awesome, very awesome. Alright, anything
else? I think that's it. this. There you go.
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gonna get for those. Honestly I don't have a
huge issue and honestly I haven't watched them
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Transform and transcend with us next time here
on All Things Transformers. It's a miracle. It's
a miracle we finally got this flying jump pile
of yours stabilized. You were the idiot who opened
the plasma energy chamber, Galvatron. Silence!
Once! There is much to do! We will attack other
planets! We will suck them dry! We will rebuild
the planet a hundred times more powerful than
Cybertron! And I will rule the galaxy! Who will
rule the galaxy? Me! It is my destiny! We shall
see, Galvatron. We shall see. Ha ha ha ha ha
I wish to speak to my lawyer.
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