All Things Transformers
Interviews – Stan Bush – Botcon 2011

About this Episode
I'm Stan Bush, and it's your time to listen to
the Geekcast Radio Network. Welcome to the GeekCast
Radio Network and This Week in Geek special interview
of Stan Bush. I am TFG1Mike and I'm joined by
Peacon Court Michael. Hello. Hey, how's it going?
Pretty good, pretty good. Everybody over at GCRN
pretty much knows Peacon Court Michael. For the
Twig listeners who will be hearing this inside
of our BotCon episode, you know, he's new to
This Week in Geek. We're doing BotCon stuff for
Twig this month, seeing as how BotCon is less
than a week away at this point. So yes, interviewing
Stan Bush. Again, this is my fifth time talking
to Stan. This is Michael's first time talking
to Stan, so breaking the cherry here. That's
so inappropriate. Well, I didn't want to say
it in the actual interview that we're going to
be doing here in a moment, but yeah. Stan Cherry
has just... A wrong thing to say. Yeah, the way
you're saying it now makes it wrong. It just
doesn't sound right. But, you know, basically
we're here to talk about Stan's plans for BotCon,
getting his thoughts on the fact that this is
the 25th year since Transformers the movie came
out. Most people will remember the Touch and
Dare in Transformers the movie. Stan has also
done a number of other things over his entire
career. Very, very, very cool. So any thoughts
before we get to the interview? You got the touch!
You're going to edit that out, right? No. Ha
ha! That's what's leading into the interview.
You got the power! Yeah! Hey everyone, this is
Mike Blanchard and I'm joined with my... Buddy,
Michael Wilson, we are from the GeekCast Radio
Network, and I am also from This Week in Geek.
This is going to be a dueling interview. For
GeekCast Radio Network, we're going to put it
in All Things Transformers, or we're going to
feature it for All Things Transformers, and it's
going to be a separate interview for This Week
in Geek. Today we have the great privilege to
talk once again with Stan Bush, the master behind
a lot of great Transformers -themed songs. Hey,
Stan, how are you? Hey, how's it going? Pretty
good, pretty good. So, Stan Bush and social media
explosion, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, you are
everywhere now. Can you explain this? Like, I
know that I've asked you this before about it,
and you said something about, oh, you were just
on MySpace and you were happy with that, but
how do you feel about the whole social media
explosion? Well, actually, it's kind of all new
to me. I think I'm probably one of the last people
to... to get involved in the social media thing.
I've got a friend that's been helping me sort
of get out there a bit on that stuff. So anyway,
but yeah, it's cool. I think it's a very neat
thing that people can check out what's going
on and all that and keep in touch. Yeah, and
it's an easy way for your fans to interact with
you. You've always been really open with all
the fans as far as fan interactions and stuff
like that. Do you have a preference between any
of the social networks? Not especially. Like
I say, I'm still sort of getting up to speed
on things. But yeah, I've always had this feeling
of indebtedness to the fans. Bottom line, they're
the reason that I'm even sort of here, you know
what I mean? And it's really important to me
to be thoughtful and kind and appreciative of
all the support that they've given me through
the years. It's pretty awesome. Yeah, very, very
cool. Want to take that next one, Michael? Sure.
Actually, I was still thinking about the media
explosion. Oh, okay. Go ahead. I'll let this
part out yet then. As far as, you know, you said
you had somebody else helping you on that. Is
that like a buddy or are you actually working
with a marketing firm? Well, actually, he kind
of turned into a buddy. He was doing a podcast
back east. He's from Philly. a wrestling organization
that does, they do events and all this sort of
thing. And so he's, he's, that's what he does.
And in fact, I flew to Philly like a month ago
and performed for this wrestling event that they
were, that they had called the King of Trios.
And his name is Mike Quackenbush. And he's a,
it's funny because we started talking and emailed
back and forth a bunch of times. And basically
he, he sort of helped me get going with this
stuff. And he's been sort of, Like I say, he
set up the Twitter and the, you know, Facebook
and all that stuff for me. So, yeah, Mike's been
great. Wow. Yeah, it's always good to get out
there on, you know, Facebook and social media
in general, because especially in your case,
it's going to help you talk with your fans and
get the word of mouth around a lot more easier
than, you know, just people who are doing it
on their own. Absolutely, yeah. So what are your
thoughts on the 25 years since Transformers the
movie in 1986? Well, it's funny because I remember
back when the original Transformers movie came
out, it was like, wow, this is cool. But at the
time, I mean, Ninja Turtles were much bigger
than Transformers at that time. Little did we
know that, you know. 25 years later, or even,
well, 20 years later, there'd be this, like,
huge explosion. And, you know, as far as upsurge
in, you know, coolness and all that, the Transformers
vibe, the whole brand seemed to just, like, explode.
Of course, the live -action films, the Michael
Bay films, was a big part of that, a big reason
for that. But it's just, I think the music, Vince
DiCola and myself having been involved in the...
The music stuff way back, I think that was another
thing that kind of gave it a bit of staying power.
A lot of people kind of grew up with those songs,
The Touch and Dare. And it's always cool to hear
stories about how those songs maybe had a positive
influence or something like that on somebody's
life or whatever or childhood. And it was like,
wow, that's cool. Anyway, but it's been a cool
ride, you know, to be associated with. Like Vince
DeCola and I did our first BotCon was back in
97 in Rochester, New York. And then, of course,
the 2007 one back in Providence was the next
one I went to after that. And I've been to, you
know, nearly every year since then. Yeah, I mean,
with... With the music, you know, people are
like, sometimes people really make me mad because
they're like, oh, Stan Bush, he's only done the
touch and dare. And I always tell people, no,
he's done much more than that. I mean, not just
the Transformers theme music that you've done,
but all your other music as well. But you're
now known for like current Transformers stuff
as well. Like Till All Are One was in war for
Cybertron. Dr. Smoove and Randall put that video
together for your time off of Dream the Dream.
How did that come about? Actually, they did that
on their own, I guess. They contacted Mike, I
was telling you about, and I guess he was in
touch with them. They were going to be doing
the video for your time, but they did that on
their own, which I thought was really cool. And,
of course, the War for Cybertron thing was great.
I had a chance to visit High Moon Studios where
they created the Transformers game. And it's
quite an impressive facility down there. That
was last summer when I went to Comic -Con. So
anyway, they were great down there. But I can
say that kind of was something contemporary.
And then when the Transformers game came out,
they did a GameStop promotion. were a national
commercial. They used the Touch for that. And,
of course, the Touch had also been on some TV
shows. It was on American Dad and also Chuck
on NBC. Yeah, it's everywhere. Yeah, so it was
really cool. It was like this new sort of breath
of life and all that. And, again, you pointed
out that I do have a whole other body of work
that... More people in sort of Europe and Japan
know about me than in the U .S. It's just kind
of worked out that way. But, yeah, I've got,
well, Dream the Dream was my 12th album, so I've
done a whole bunch of stuff that a lot of the,
you know, people don't even realize, you know,
that, you know, the sort of, I'm still an 80s
rocker at heart. Aren't we all? Yeah. It's funny
that you point out the Ninja Turtles as far as
what was popular back in the day and the fact
that you have the staying power where you're
still here and you are still producing music
that people find relevant. And if you think back
to who did Ninja Turtles, it was Vanilla Ice.
Oh, that's true. What's he doing? I have no clue.
Actually, it's funny. I know what he's doing
nowadays. He's in home renovation. He has a television
show on the DIY Network. Oh, okay. Nice. So nice.
Wow. We need to get Stan on the DIY Network.
Pronto. Yeah. I don't know. For me, out of all
the stuff that you've done, honestly, the one
album, that I can listen to front to back is
Dream the Dream. It's such a fluid album. How
did that... I asked you on Twitter the other
day, you had said when you released the single
Heat of the Battle that it was planned to be
on Dream the Dream, but it just wasn't done in
time for the album release. If it had been done,
how would you have incorporated that into what
the track listing of Dream the Dream is? Oh,
I have no idea. But yeah, you're right. We were
kind of in a hurry to get the album finished,
usual story. But then also thank you for the
kind words on the album. Yeah, I'm very pleased
with how it came out. Yeah, the album came out
and Europe was getting impatient for it because
we'd spent a year and a half writing and recording
the songs. But yeah, just after it was released
and all that stuff was when we wrote... Heat
of the Battle. So we kind of just put that out
as a single, so it's available on iTunes as a
single. But my friend Lenny Macaluso, who co
-wrote The Touch with me, we wrote that one together
as well. Awesome. How did the music video for
it come about? You have a music video for Heat
of the Battle on your YouTube channel. Yeah.
And it's these two chicks playing War for Cybertron.
How did that... How did that whole project come
about, doing a music video for Heat of the Battle?
Well, my friend Art Douglas, we did the video
for Sam's Theme, that other one as well, with
Art. Art's a really good video director. He also
did a military tribute video with The Touch,
ostensibly from Iraq, but it was really out here
in the California desert. But it was to honor
the troops in Iraq. And Afghanistan. But, yeah,
Art, he's a buddy and lives here in L .A., and
he's a film guy, and so we put together the video
with the heat of the battle one. We shot part
of it at my friend's studio in front of a green
screen, and then that's where I was superimposed
over the War for Cybertron game footage. The
girls, let's see, one of them was an actress.
Well, they're both actresses, I guess, but the
one sort of main one, the first one you see,
I don't remember her story exactly, but she's
done a lot of big stuff, you know, commercials
and everything else. Art knew her, had worked
with her on something else, and so he got them
involved and, you know, he basically edited it
all together and everything. Very cool, very
cool. What else do we want to talk about, Michael?
Well, I thought we were going to talk a little
bit about BotCon and what Stan was going to be
up to there. You're just going to do autographs,
right? You're not performing? Yeah, I'll be there
all weekend. I'll be at his table and everything,
and I'll be promoting Dream the Dream album.
This year there's no concert. They have the new
film coming out and, of course, the Prime TV
series. So there's a whole lot of other stuff
going on, and there just wasn't going to be enough
time to fit in a concert this year at BotCon.
But since I'm here locally, it's in the L .A.
area, so it was easy for me to make an appearance
there. So it's always good to be able to meet
and greet the fans and so forth, and I always
enjoy going. Go ahead, Michael. I'm sorry. I
just jumped right in there. You're going to find
a karaoke place, right? Maybe. Last year we did
that. I was up there on stage with my good friend
Greg Lombardo from Hasbro. karaoke thing together.
That was funny. I somehow missed that, but I
did see the video afterwards. Somebody posted
that. I didn't see it. We'll have to send you
the link. It was last year. We were looking around
for footage after the fact. I remember seeing
it somewhere. With everybody's video phones now,
you've got to be really careful what you do.
Exactly. You don't know what's going to be recorded
while you're up there on stage. Now, are you
going to have the second annual Give Stan Bush
a High Five? Oh, yeah, definitely. That was Brian
Kilby last year. I don't know exactly what that
was supposed to be. It's like a homegrown grassroots
effort. They get a picture taken of you high
-fiving everybody. Yeah. Yeah. It's a really
cool thing. I just enjoy meeting everybody. Everybody's
been so wonderful to me. Now, when you're not
doing autographs this year, like when you just
have your own time, will you explore the convention
at all? Will you go into the dealer room? Will
you go to any of the panels as long as you're
not obligated to be signing autographs? Um, yeah,
they, um, I don't think they have any panels
scheduled, but, um, but yeah. No, I mean, will
you just attend the panels? Like you're just.
Oh yeah. Yeah, no, I'll definitely make the rounds.
I'm going to be, uh, like to see what all's going
on and, uh, you know, talk to people, probably
do a few interviews and things too. And, uh,
I'm not sure if, um, if Activision is going to
be there, but, uh. I've done stuff with them.
Of course, The Touch came out on Guitar Hero,
and it's also available on Rock Band, too, in
case anybody didn't know that already. Yeah,
I mean, like I said, The Touch, Dare, Till All
Are One, most of your Transformers themes are
over video, like you said, Guitar Hero and Rock
Band. It allows people to be able to learn how
to play those songs, and I think that's a great
thing. Yeah, it's cool stuff. I really enjoy
the whole thing. One of the things, I've been
doing some local gigs playing classic rock stuff
with some buddies of mine around here in California.
We're playing tonight, actually, in Simi Valley.
I have this acoustic trio with a bass player
from Quiet Riot and another good friend of mine
who plays great guitar and also killer violin
player. He's really good. So we do this kind
of unplugged classic rock stuff, and it's really
awesome. That's kind of a new thing we just started
doing. So why can't we find this on YouTube?
Because that would rock. Yeah, that's something
we really should put on YouTube. In fact, you
just gave me an idea. I think I'm going to arrange
to have somebody video that and post it. Break
out your iPhone. I would love to see or hear
whether it's like a... an actual MP3 track, or
whether it's you doing it live, I would love
to hear what an acoustic version of Dare would
sound like. Oh, that's a good idea. Yeah, that
song actually comes off real well. It's kind
of high, but I can do it and maybe just transpose
it down a little bit, key -wise. Yeah. Wow, that's
a good idea. Oh, we are doing Love Don't Lie
in this thing. I don't know if you remember that
song, but it was also on the, it came out on
the same album as The Touch, on the Barrage album.
On In This Life? No, no, I'm sorry, the original
release of The Touch from 1987. Oh, okay. I'll
have to go back and look for that song. Yeah,
I can send you that album if you don't have it.
Oh, cool. Awesome. So what's next? You're currently
doing promotion for Dream the Dream. What's next
for the rest of 2011 for you, beginning of 2012?
Are you making new music, or are you just in
promotional mode for Dream the Dream and getting
that as big as you can get it? Kind of both,
yeah. I'm doing promotion for Dream the Dream,
but I'm also beginning to write for another album,
so I'll probably... be recording it over the
next year or so and release it sometime in 2012,
I imagine. Have you done a European tour or a
Japanese tour? Let's see. It's been a couple
of years since I've been to Europe, so nothing
on the horizon as of this moment, but that's
certainly something that down the line I'll probably
do. What about a U .S. tour? Well, yeah, I mean,
I'm definitely open to things. Like I said, I
did the show in Philadelphia about a month ago,
and it's sort of with my schedule and so forth,
it makes more sense for me to just kind of, you
know, in and out, just do a show and come back
or whatever. And then because I'm so busy all
the time doing recording and what have you here
in L .A., it's like it's hard for me to leave
for an extended period of time, you know, doing
a tour or anything like that. Just the logistics
of it. I definitely love to perform, and it always
amazes me because wherever I go, if we get the
word out, there's people who show up with albums
I did 20 years ago, wanting autographs and things.
I have these closet Stan Bush fans everywhere.
It's funny. It's great. It's actually really
cool. Very, very cool. All right, Stan, we would
like to thank you for joining us. We'll ask you
to hold the line, and we will be back after this.
Bush, his thoughts on 25 Years of Transformers,
the movie, social media, and the way he does
his album promotions and everything else. Very
cool. Would love to see him at BotCon this year.
Unfortunately, I can't go. What about you? What
did you think of talking to Stan for your first
time? Actually, I've spoken to Stan before at
BotCon. This is the first time I've actually
interviewed him. I did talk to him and recorded
it at the last podcast. So no, this isn't the
first time. This is your first time on air. This
is the first time recording something with him
in a conversational manner. You know what we
ought to do? We should take a road trip out to
LA and we can see him like play a gig, uh, acoustically
and maybe catch a rock sugar concert. Oh my God.
That would be so awesome. That would be awesome.
As I said in the beginning, this will be featured
on all things Transformers, and it will be featured
in This Week in Geeks topic show for May, which
is BotCon 2011, seeing as how BotCon is less
than a week away. So I have been TFG1 Mike, and
you are? Pecan Court Michael. As far as like,
hey, you know, it would be cool. We could go
out there and we could see Sam Bush and we could
see Rock Sugar and have a whole total geek out
weekend. and probably get mugged and beaten by
police officers. For what? Being fans of Stan
Bush and Rock Sugar? No, I'm just saying, if
you're in L .A., you know, the chances are dramatically
increased that you will be either A, mugged,
or B, beaten by police officers. Okay, that's
going on YouTube. You think I'm lying. Take two.
Or three at this point. Yeah. Shut up! Now I'm
on fire!
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