Interview with Josh Burcham on Transformers Beast Wars and His Artistic Journey

This is artist Josh Bircham, and you're listening

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Yes! Hello and welcome to the latest GeekCast

Radio Presents interview that will be syndicated

on all things Transformers, the Beast Unleashed

podcast, and of course, the pullback. I am one

of your hosts, TF2 and Mike. Joining me, as always,

Steve Megatron. Hello. I simply have a penchant

for intelligent conversation. Sadly, in almost

12 years, you've never found that with me. Tonight,

we are joined by that compelling colorist, the

artist extraordinaire, Mr. Josh Burcham. How

are we doing tonight, guys? Good to see you.

Nice to meet you. Yes. Absolutely. Very interesting.

This is going to be an interesting conversation,

folks, because in case you didn't know, Josh

is currently the full artist on IDW Publishing's

Transformers Beast Wars. I wanna say ongoing,

but I don't wanna, I don't know what it is yet,

because sometimes IDW will be like, oh, we're

going to do Transformers Galaxies, and it's the

next iteration of Spotlights. And then, oh, wait,

no, it was a limited series. So while I love

IDW and I love everything they do, I don't know

what to call this series, because I don't know

if it has a specific end point or not. I hope

not, because I want you guys to have jobs and

give us... creative awesomeness and everything

else. Right. It's technically billed as an ongoing,

but I think, uh, I mean, just like any of the

other ongoing series, they just kind of playing

it by ear and see how long, uh, sales will let

us continue. But yeah, we don't really have an

end point in mind just yet. Awesome. Very cool.

Very cool. All right. I'm going to pass it over

to Steve to start the interview and let's get

going Steve. So Where did you grow up? I actually,

yeah, native to the Pacific Northwest here. I

was born in Oregon, raised partly in like the

Vancouver, Portland area of Washington, Oregon.

And yeah, I'm here, Central Oregon, just kind

of here in the Northwest. Nice. So did you always

want to be a artist for comics? Honestly not

really Probably not probably not until about

like high school. Did it really come into pop

into my head? I'd always like been I guess quote

unquote artist sketched and draw drew and doodled

here and there you know before I can remember

but uh I didn't actually take it seriously until

about high school age I was taking some graphic

design classes and they were kind of pushing,

not really pushing, but letting you know that

there's creative opportunities or careers and

stuff like that. I was right about the time that

Dreamwave was coming out with Transformer comics

too, so everything was kind of intersecting and

like, oh, maybe I can do this someday. Yeah,

I remember those days of Dreamwave. So yeah,

that resonates with me as well. Right? Yeah.

So, tell us the story of how you broke into the

business. Yeah. Like I said, around high school,

I was probably... I probably had the idea of

doing it right around 16 or so. I was getting

back into art, getting back into drawing, but

at the time, I didn't really have a way to put

it online. And that's where I... Right around

there is when I found... the online message boards

and stuff like that. And so I was like, there

was a pretty, pretty big fan art community back

then, you know, a lot of the people who you see

drawing books now, Nick Roach and Casey Coller

and Andrew Griffith and all those guys, we were,

we were all posting on these boards at the time.

We were just fan artists, you know, and, you

know, I wanted to be a part. And so I didn't

have a way to put my drawings online. So I found

another way to contribute, which was doing the

digital coloring with Photoshop. be a Photoshop

from my class and so I was doing that. We did

some assignments in graphic design class that

was kind of comic book related and kind of intersected.

Like I mentioned Dreamway was popping up and

so right there is where I kind of discovered

the similarities like oh what I'm doing here

is like pretty much the same process they're

doing for comic books. I thought about pursuing

that, and the thing I did back then, AOL, was

America Online was still the thing. And I thought,

for the heck of it, I'll do a search, I'll type

in Dreamwave, you know, what could happen? And

when you're looking for profiles or whatever,

and a couple names popped up, one of them was

whatever, but one of them, he was a guy, he was

actually like a production manager at Dreamwave

Productions. So I just instant messaged the guy.

I was like, hey, you know, I'm Josh. I do fan

art. Love the transformed looks, you know, blah,

blah, blah. I'd love to get your thoughts on,

like, my work. And I was probably about 17 at

the time. And emailed him some samples. He said,

yeah, sure. I'll pass them on to my art director

and we'll see. And yeah, I heard back. They gave

me some pointers. They're like, you know, if

you could work on this and that. we think you

can be on the right track. And so, you know,

long story short, I kind of went back and forth

and they were like, we can't really hire you

until you're 18 anyways, you know, you're not

really the legal age. So I was like, okay, cool.

So I was like, I got a year to practice and get

better. And so I did, I practiced, I redid a

bunch of sample pages for them, sent them back.

And I think it was a few months after that really.

that I got my first offer on a project, which

was the profile books for the Armada series.

And yeah, from then on it went to War Within.

And then I followed license over to IDW and been

with it ever since. Very cool. Very cool. Yeah,

I actually remember picking up most of those

comics. Yeah, right on. So, you've been a colorist

on the IDW Transformer comics since 2005. So,

if you had to pick, what was your favorite project

in the previous IDW Transformer universe before

this one started? Yeah, yeah. I think... probably...

what's my favorite? I don't know. Probably the

Wreckers trilogy, I guess, is probably one I'm

pretty satisfied with. overall and it's one I

really got to like experiment with color -wise

you know I tried different styles for each metal

which was you know hit or miss I guess depending

on who you ask you know some people like some

more than others but I have fun and just that

IDW gave me the the room to experiment and try

new things different color styles really cool

so I love That series holds a pretty cool place

in my heart. Working on the first season of More

Than Meets the Eye was super cool, too. Another

kind of similar thing where they just let me

do whatever I wanted. For better or worse, that

first season kind of has its own distinct look

to it color -wise, which I'm pretty proud of.

I think some people think it, too. Those two

series, I guess, probably. Yeah, that that first

season boy that Man, you don't want to get caught

by some shadow play No, that's no no no no no

no no You know, it's funny that you're it's not

funny that you're a native of the Pacific Northwest

but my I have to say it this way just because

of governmental reasons. My ex -wife and I moved

out here a year ago so quite literally we could

have been your neighbors because we're in downtown

Vancouver. Yeah, yeah, I noticed that. I remember

you saying it like seeing on your page that you're

moving to Vancouver. I was like, oh man, are

you still there? Yeah. Did you grow up reading

comics and at what age did you first remember

reading or noticing them? I never did grow up

reading them. um I had like the occasional you

know my mom would go on a garage sale or something

like that and she'd find like a couple of the

old like marvel transformer stuff or even some

random like batman comics because I was really

into batman as a kid as well and then I just

kind of had them I flipped through them but I

never thought of making a movie um just because

they looked really corny to me um and so you

know I never really gave comics you know You

know paid any mind not really until like I said

when Dreamwave was coming back and they kind

of put you know Transformers comics back in the

general consciousness of everybody and I was

like, oh this is this is what comic books look

like now like this actually looks Yeah, yeah,

I didn't really have any interest in going out

for really any yeah like any desire to to make

comic books, I guess. I mean, my mom tells me

I used to make my own comic books back when I

was little. I don't really remember, but I guess

maybe it was all these destined to be. There

you go. Hey, you know, you got to have a destiny.

You got to chase that dream, right? Yeah, right.

Whenever the dream catches you by the wave. As

a reader, and I want to preface this as a reader

and No offense to the people you work for, we

have to ask you the age -old question. DC or

Marvel? Yeah. I think probably before, like the

MCU, you'd always catch me saying DC, because

I never knew much about Marvel stuff, aside from

maybe the Spider -Man cartoon in the 90s. Right.

It was just all so unfamiliar to me, but Batman

was always my guy. you know, the Justice League

cartoon and all that stuff, too, growing up.

I guess I probably always leaned DC back then,

but now that kind of Marvel's given me a new

interest, I'm kind of like, okay, maybe I like

them about the same. Very cool, very cool. Reading

and creating, what format do you prefer, print

or digital? Which one, both either or and why?

That's a good question, yeah. For creating, all

my work is done digitally. I think I moved digitally

probably a good while ago, maybe even close to

10 years ago. I do everything digitally, even

drawing and stuff, like all the Beast Wars, stuff

like that, it's all digital. So definitely creating,

I definitely mean digital, it's just so... Don't

want to say easy because like it's a Lot more

convenient, I guess the tools are kind of they're

built in Ready to go to help you It's really

convenient As far as reading goes hmm. I mean

nothing can really beat having a physical copy,

but uh, I do like to read it digitally I especially

like the guided view stuff that some comics do

it's just kind of Keep the surprise of things,

you know, sometimes there'll be a big reveal

and you accidentally put something like, Oh no,

and you kind of spoil yourself. I think the guy

that you kind of paces out well. I do like that.

Yeah, it's funny. I've been doing the pull bag

or comic podcast for almost eight years now.

We're actually recording this a week before that

shows eighth anniversary and. Ever since then,

probably halfway through the first year, I found

Comixology and I have been singing the praises

for their guided view. And recently I just had

to, I recorded something that won't be out for

a while, but I'm like, I promise folks, I wish

they were paying me to say this, but they're

not sadly. But like, seriously, every other word

out of my mouth when I talk about comics is Comixology

guided view. It's really great. It's a really

great invention. Yeah, it's a great way to read

comics. How was it working with Eric Burnham

and can you walk us through the creative process

you both are using to bring us the Beast Wars

comic? Sure. Yeah, funny story. I actually met,

in a way, online Eric. A few years ago, somebody

on Twitter was just like, hey, we need comic

book guests. If you want to join our podcast

later today, I was like, I'm bored. I'm not really

doing anything. So I said yes. And I guess Eric

said yes. And so we were the two guests back

then. We had no idea who each other were at the

time, but we met each other back then. And so

it's kind of serendipitous that we're working

together now, but he's really, he's really great

to work with a really cool guy. He's open to

any suggestions or anything that I have or the

rest of the editorial crew has. Pretty flexible

with the script and pacing and stuff like that

He's like, you know, I write it out this way,

you know certain way and if you have better ideas

go for it, you know, because it's Ultimately,

it's all about the story that we're trying to

tell you know, whatever serves the story best

He's been really cool really supportive. Yeah,

the whole team has it, you know on the whole

book. It's Really really great creative process.

Yeah, I know cuz it's kind of funny that Your

whole journey through all this I was looking

at your your deviant art a couple weeks ago and

And saw some of your Beast Wars art and I was

like, oh that was directly an inspiration for

what we're seeing now And I enjoyed every bit

of it nice, yeah these words always been a real

privilege Now have what What exactly drew you

to Beast Wars as opposed to some of the other

ones? Yeah, I mean I always I grew up aware of

Transformers and I was a fan of like whatever

g1 stuff that I had but I was born in 85 So by

the time, you know, I was a little kid. It was

already in full swing So I you know, I had like

random VHS copies of, you know, miscellaneous

episodes. I had a recording of the 86 movie on

VHS because it was on TV. My parents did it for

me. So I would always like rewatch, you know,

those few episodes in the movie like over and

over. But when Beast were, say, you know, in

the mid late eight mid late 90s, I was, you know,

like 13 years old. But I was kind of You know

the target audience that they're going for, you

know, the young kids, you know routines whatever

and so No Beast Wars was really kind of you know,

you know, it's kind of the same with you know

People who are a little older, you know when

G1 came out they were like 10 11 12 that kind

of hate and so Beast Wars was almost kind of

like my G1, you know is it came out, you know

at the perfect time, you know Spending all my

allowance on all the toys and kind of stuff,

you know, trying to convince my parents to get

up for me. Waking up early Saturday mornings

to watch the show, new episodes. So yeah, it

was really... Yeah, I had the foundation with

G1, but Beast Wars really kind of hooked me into

it. Right around that time was the whole internet

and all that kind of stuff, too. Finding message

boards and discussion groups and all that kind

of stuff. the right time kind of thing. So it's

really funny that Beast Wars resonates so well

because now it's 25 years later and so many people

love the show as you did and as I do. What do

you think it is about Beast Wars that has people

coming back for more by rewatching the classic

series and reading your new comic, of course?

Yeah, I think... It's definitely the characters

and the storytelling. You know, some people,

I see a lot, everyone, you know, now and then

I search Beast Wars, you know, I'm like in Twitter

and Tumblr, so I just see what people are saying,

and I always see, you know, a bunch of random

comments like, oh, the CGI ain't that great,

but man, the story, man, the characters, you

know. And I mean, to me, like, the CGI still

looks good to me, like it, but that might be

like... rose -colored glasses, you know, nostalgia.

But, I mean, you look at it, it is rough texture

-wise and stuff, and low -poly, but the characters

are animated really well. Expression gets across,

drama gets across really well, and it's further

enhanced by the great, you know, voice acting

by all the voice actors and just the story, you

know, the fun stories. the cool, you know, the

fun happy -go -lucky one -offs and then the really

cool like multi -parters, you know, like the

agenda and all that kind of stuff that really

hook in and draw on the overall continuity and

expand it. A really well -done show and we're

just hoping with the book that we can match that,

you know. I definitely, and I don't know, I don't

speak for Mike, but I, in my opinion - You do

sometimes, when I make you. Yeah, that's true.

Yeah. So in my opinion anyway of being such a

huge Beast Wars fan it resonates really well

with me and I find it very very entertaining

and I find the even even with the new edition

of the two new characters It still feels like

I'm Tuned into the original 96 series with a

little bit of added depth That's really cool,

because that's exactly what we're going for.

I know we've talked about Beast Wars, but what

Transformers generation is your special generation,

even if it's Beast Wars, or maybe it's not Beast

Wars, but what one would it be and why? I think

if I had to choose something that wasn't Beast

Wars, I think Beast Wars probably does rank out

number one, but I think a close second for me

is probably the The Cartoon Network transfer

in Transformers animated series Mm -hmm Really

really well thought out and the story was great.

The writing team was awesome. I'm a super big

fan of Derek Wyatt and his designs his art direction

on that series. I Didn't even know him back when

the show came out, but I kind of came to know

him You know going to conventions and stuff like

that. He's a really cool guy as well super big

fan and Yeah, it's just It was a great, a lot

like Beast Wars, great characters and a great

story that it wasn't like inventing things on

the fly, or at least it didn't seem like, but

it had a plan, it had story arcs, it knew the

story it was trying to tell. And yeah, it was

just really enjoyable and a great contrast to

the Baver stuff that was coming out at the same

time as well. Well it and funny enough with that

series they actually did touch on Beast Wars

in a multitude of other different Transformers

universes, right? Yeah There wasn't enough Rodimus

in season 3 damn it. Oh, I know So what was your

very first Transformers toy I don't remember

personally, but my mom always says it was the

Targetmaster cup toy, which I still have actually.

Nice! But yeah, G1 cup. I still have the Targetmaster

as well. Very cool, very cool. One of the few

that has survived myself. I think we all have

those stories. Yeah, I made the mistake of purging...

I mean I had a lot of them just break just from

brittle plastic specifically like the the transmetal

Megatron, but Having two of them and the arm

snapped off both but But I purged them all I

have only had the masterpiece primal and I don't

know if you've you collect the masterpiece figures

at all, but But I just recently started recollecting

a lot of figures and The ones that aren't kingdom

are insanely expensive now Yeah, I know. I'm

still missing black or acne and every time I'm

like, oh I should pick her up and then I look

online. It's like $140 Yes, sadly they're not

paying us either please give us a sponsorship,

please I know, they did wonderful. I got Thrilling

30, Waspinator, I got the new Kingdom Cheetor,

and the Kingdom Blackarachnia, and they all showed

up. Yay! Alright, who is your end -all, be -all,

favorite character or characters from any Transformers

incarnation? You can pick one Decepticon, one

Autobot, one Maximal, and one Predacon. You're

bringing up a tough question. Of course. I think

my favorite Autobot is... it's kind of the go

-to for most people is Optimus Prime. Close tag

on probably be Hot Rod. Decepticons? No. Did

I ever really had a favorite character? I always

liked Skywarp, just the way he looked. Black

and purple is like... How you get me going, you

know? Anything in those colors just looks amazing.

But I guess I'd nominate you. I think Predacons

is easy. Everyone, you know, one of them. They

make a charm. It's that voice. It just gets me.

And, boy, favorite Max. I always did like Death

Charge. I thought he was really cool. So, Megatron,

do you have anything to say to Mr. Bertram? I'm

putting you on the spot. Use your voice, dude.

I know. Good. Now leave me. I have work to do.

There you go. Megatron, terrorize! Well done.

Thanks. When we interviewed David Kay way back

in 2009, he basically gave Steve the seal of

approval. You're the only person that does my

voice that actually sounds like my voice. Yeah.

It was very cool. I have talked to Scott McNeil

before and I... I did it and then I tried to

do Waspinator and unfortunately didn't have any

water because I waited like two hours in line

to see him. So I get up there and I'm like, Waspinator,

sick of being evil. What are some other Transformers

characters you like? Oh yeah, I mentioned Hot

Rock. He's definitely my favorite. Not really

his character per se, but I just always thought

he was cool looking and his beautiful mode. He's

like, I want a car like that. It hasn't happened

yet. What the heck? Now that you have this new

opportunity and they're going to sell a million

copies, you know. Yeah, right. One can only hope.

Get those royalties that I don't get. Uh, yeah,

I always liked Wheeljack. He was always a favorite,

too. I even threw in a little visual homage for

Wheeljack in issue one of these worlds. Yeah,

I always liked his design. I thought he was really

cool looking. Just the whole Bumbling Scientist

kind of thing in G1. This is hilarious. Absolutely.

Are there any Transformers characters you either

dislike or hate? Not that we want to get negative,

but I mean, they're - everybody has a character

that annoys the hell out of them. Right, huh.

Boy, um, I don't know. Um, I don't know that

I, I feel like I would get like, I'll get burned

at the stake for saying this, but, uh, I don't

really get the, the Starscream laugh. Not that

I hate him or anything or, you know, he's kind

of whatever, but he's just kind of, you know,

he's Starscream. So there's. There's no future

possessions in the comic coming up then. If there

is, I'll just make it skywarp. Oh, sick bird.

That would be awesome. I'm trying to think of

who would be better, like maybe a sound wave.

Well, I mean, we did have Ravage, you know, Decepticons.

That is true. That would be cool, actually. Yeah,

that would be cool. Whatever happened to Soundwave?

He got upgraded. Soundbeaster. I mean, not that

I hate Starscream or whatever. I know some people

probably give me everything. He's just not my

favorite. Well, that's why he got blown up too

by, you know... By everyone? By everyone in Beast

Wars. And, you know, Megatron didn't trust him,

but put all of his loyal people in there. Hasta

la vista, Starscream. Right? So, what is your

artist vision with the IDW Beast Wars comic,

and how did your style fit into the classic characters?

I think that's probably one thing that actually

got me the job. Just in an email with David,

our editor, I imagine they probably talked to

a few different people that they had in mind

taking on the series. When I submitted my...

It wasn't really a pitch, but it was just some

artwork for them to consider, you know, to kind

of see if I would be a fit. One of the things

that he mentioned was I had a distinct visual

look for my take on the characters. That was

one of the reasons why they went with me. I don't

know if I have any... thought process behind

how it fits or whatever I'm just gonna like this

in the comedy like this is just the lens the

artistic lens that I see these characters through

and Yeah, it's just kind of it's really cool

because they're giving me like kind of pre -reigned

interpret things how I want when I first Got

the go -ahead on the project. I asked them, you

know, do they want me to follow the new toys

or you know what's coming up in Kingdom and They

said not specifically. I mean they sent me some

reference for a couple characters of character

models for the new show but They said I didn't

have to copy them or follow them or whatever.

So it's just kind of It's been up to my interpretation

and it's It's been really cool. I actually haven't

got any notes or any redesigns Nothing like that.

It's just kind of Unfiltered this is how it looks

Josh That's awesome. Yes, it's fun That's the

best way to work. Isn't it as an artist where

you basically had like your imagination is the

the only limit you really have Right. Yeah So

I'm really grateful for all that. And as much

as it's like a deviation from the previous Beast

Wars comic that IDW put out, I really love the

new take because it kind of adds this fun flair

to the characters that it focuses on. Natalie,

their appearance with the story and there's so

many vibrant colors in there and designs and

little Easter eggs if you're looking for them.

Yeah, and I think to pair in with what I said

a second ago, that's part of the reason I feel

like that they went with me is because it is

so different. They want to make sure that at

first glance, this isn't some continuation of

the show or isn't some Here's what happens between

this and that episode, you know, we're not bound

to the show For save or it's not attached to

any of the previous comics that IDW did that

this You know when you look at it, you can tell

this is something different. It's not very cool

All right, very cool. So what is your favorite

part about fan interactions? Yeah, just all of

it, I guess. It's all super cool. You do this

job kind of in a vacuum and I only ever talk

really with the IDW guys through email and very

rarely it'll be through a phone call or anything

like that. So it's all digital and you go online

and all the interaction online is... digital,

you know, through Twitter or whatever, message

boards. So it's really cool. You know, going

to the conventions, which has sucked all the

COVID stuff. We haven't had one in a year plus,

but it'll be nice when we're able to kind of

go back to that sort of thing, just because it

is really cool to meet all the fans in person

and, you know, to see witness you know their

excitement for the series or for the project

or for what you're doing it's just really it

kind of pumps you up you know it's like you know

yeah there's actually people who buy this and

you enjoy this and it's like now I feel psyched

and ready to do some more you know it's really

cool and I've met some really cool people a lot

of aspiring artists and stuff like that who come

up to you some of them are like really shy and

kind of timid or you know, whatever and it's

kind of cool to To be able to encourage people,

you know I had no idea this is what I was gonna

do for a job, but I Will be the first to admit

it's better than most other jobs out there that

a lot of people work and if you have the the

skill and the drive that you absolutely should

go for it, you know too and it's that's one thing

that I like about IDW is they're so open to the

fans you know being able to contribute that's

you know like 90 % of you know I guess the the

old guard you know like Alex Milne and Josh Perez

and like I said Andrew Casey and myself and stuff

like we were all fans posting on message boards

and a lot of the new artists Like Anna Malkova

and Beth and all those, you know, they're all

fans as well. IDW is not a shame to draw from

that, which I think is really cool because there's

a lot of really talented people out there who

deserve to live out their dream. Yeah, and you

know, people are cool. I know you mentioned part

of your favorite part with conventions and getting

to see people, but what are some of your favorite

things to do when you go to the convention? Aside

from interacting with the fans, I think one of

the things I do enjoy most is interacting with

my, I guess, co -workers, other artists and stuff

like that. because yeah it's just like meeting

fans or whatever we only see people like maybe

once a year you know at a convention or if we're

lucky a couple times more and it's just really

cool to there's a great camaraderie kind of there

you know and we're all just the same and we're

all geeks and nerds and we all like nerdy stuff

and just having a laugh and getting drinks and

getting to know each other Probably one of the

things that I do look forward to most is just

hanging out with everybody. That is so, so cool.

Yeah. I kind of like the virtual conventions

now, but you're right. I do miss, even though

I don't attend most conventions because I just

can't afford to, but it's one of those things

where it's nice to know that San Diego Comic

-Con was there or is there or will be there again

at some point whenever this, uh, world we live

in changes again. So as an artist, and you've

kind of, I don't think there is a hard end. So

the question is, as an artist, what has been

the hardest part of being an artist in this new

world we live in? So basically, was it easier

pre -COVID? Is it easier now? But it seems like

you're... Like you've already said, you basically

only talk to the other team members through email.

You're not going into the IDW. You weren't going

into the IDW offices every day and sitting at

a desk and working. So how much, if there is

a difference between before COVID or now as we're

living through it, being an artist and doing

all that. Yeah. I think for the most part, it's

pretty unchanged. There was a little period,

you know, when, uh, just when Printers weren't

open just distributors weren't distributing that

we had to shut down and I You know, there was

probably about two weeks where I didn't I didn't

do any work not that I didn't have any work to

do but they were just like you hold up well,

everybody gets everything figured out and Now

that that's all rolling. I mean, it's yeah kind

of businesses business as usual. So we're recording

this interview Right after issue two of Transformers

Beast Wars for Mighty W has released. Can you

give us any teasers for issue three? Anything

you can say that you can get away with saying

without David Marriott saying, oh, you shouldn't

have said that on that podcast. Not to say that

I don't know the guy but it's like, you know

It's like you ask a question like that and last

time we asked a question like that Maurice LaMarche

Revealed to us that he was gonna be mr. Freeze

in Arkham City and it just blew up so But is

there anything from issue three that you can

kind of tease us with? The cover has tarantulas

doing his web world thing. Yeah, right I mean

it's It's hard to say anything because it is

a sequential story, you know, it picks up right

after number two and It just continues on the

story, so I don't know if I can really say much

without spoiling stuff. And then your favorite

characters are probably in it, like Megatron's

in there being Megatron, and Tarantulas has some

cool stuff. Dinobots there. Skull gets a little

more springtime, or whatever you call it. So

that'll be cool, kind of get a little more...

Sense of who she is as a character You'll just

have to read to find out Of course we will and

since we're covering it every month inside the

pull bag here on all things transformers, we

obviously will All right Would you like to inform

the fans of where they can interact with you

online? Sure. Yeah, you can absolutely find me

I'm probably the most active over on Twitter.

You can find me at at JCBirdshroom. I've also

got an Instagram page that I'm semi -active on.

Every once in a while, I'll kind of give a little

tease of what I'm working on. So if you want

to ever catch a pee, sometimes I throw up a little

something on my stories there. And my handle

on there, I think, is just at DC Josh. Yeah.

you can find me over there. Other than that,

I mean, people friend me on Facebook. I'm not

super active on there, but you're more than welcome

to, if you want to, find me over there. Yeah,

that's about it, I think. All right. We would

like to thank Mr. Burcham for taking the time

to chat with us in this latest Transformers interview

here on the GeekCast Radio Network. Steve and

I will be back after this. Thank you so much,

Josh. This is an awesome, awesome time. It's

been a distinct pleasure. Thank you for having

me. We're going to turn Cybertron into a giant

mud pad. The Beast Unleashed podcast. All right.

That's it. Our interview with Mr. Josh Burcham,

IDW artist, colorist, the artist and colorist

on the new Transformers Beast Wars comic. That

was awesome. Oh yeah. Very, very, very much so.

Very cool. Very cool. Um, yeah, so coming up

next on all things transformers is we are always

late with the news because we don't break the

news. We just react to it. In the next episode,

you'll hear us talking about all of the news

from the Hezbro investor day call or whatever

the heck that was. So that's what's coming up

on all things transformers. The pull bag, uh,

it'll be after issue. Two so we've got 404 not

found and then we've got radiant black issues

one and two coming up inside the pull bag Why

don't you close it out Megatron Excellent yes

Don't you have a lawyer to call? Apparently your

cat does. I can't wait. Good. Now leave. I have

work to do. Yes. Diecast construction. It's a

lost art.