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Transformers Back to the Future Comic Review

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That's right, because we are crossing over to
talk about IDW Publishing's Transformers Back
to the Future. I'm of course TFT and Mike, you
are. Steve Megatron. That's right, that's right.
And yes, IDW, one of their last, I think this
was actually their very final crossover, was
Transformers Back to the Future, four issues,
and I liked it. I thought it was fun, but all
is they did was take the original film and add
Transformers to it. I mean, I saw some of that,
but same token, they did change some stuff. Yeah,
true. They did, but I mean, the basic plot of
it is rumble stows away on the DeLorean. Well,
yeah, that part, but once it was in the altered
timeline. Oh yeah that's all yeah that's totally
different yeah that's all totally different but
i'm saying like the beginning and ending is essentially
the it's essentially back to the future and that's
fine it's supposed to be back to the future hello
it's transformers back to the future so just
to get the creative out of the way as always
written by kevin scott art by one samu uh Colors
by David Garcia Cruz and Candice Hahn letters
by Neil Yucatay and Yeah, so we have For humans
we have Marty doc Biff George and Lorraine for
the Autobots. We have bumblebee optimus Jigga
-jigga -watt gigawatt, whatever. I forget how
it's supposed to be pronounced gigawatt Skills
and Rodimus Prime Decepticons we have Megatron,
no not that one Ravage, Soundwave, Starscream
Flame War for some odd reason Rumble Hook Mixmaster
and Watchtower I will say this going in, I totally
ignored Watchtower So when it showed up in the
comic I was extremely like, oh WTF and then I
was like, oh, this is cool. Yeah Yeah, no when
I like I normally like going through the the
character pages IDW does for their Comics because
they do them in the individual ones and in the
the trade as well but yeah, I completely missed
the whole watchtower thing and Yeah, I was like
Oh snap. That's crazy. Now did you, because I
know that I think the toy was announced before
the comic or it was like right around the same
time, whatever. Did you have any inclination
of picking up Gigawatt at all? Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
Yeah. It was, it was, it was a real close toss
up. I was like, I'm like, do I get it for the
soul's sake that it's a DeLorean? I don't have
a DeLorean. It was very tempting, but I was like,
I don't know, I really got to pay attention to
what I'm getting my hands on here. I want to
say it was like 30 bucks for a Deluxe. Which
isn't terrible like it's not I mean implicit
wasn't it exclusive to somewhere like a martyr?
Okay target. That's fine Yeah, I think so. Anyway,
I don't know. I saw it. Maybe it wasn't I don't
know I could just where I saw it both Yeah, probably
So the plot of this is is interesting as you
said yes, you are right. The middle section is
issues two and three are the most interesting
out of this because let's face it there's only
so much you can do back to the future style at
the beginning and ending like you know you have
to kind of sort of set things right and this
starts with you know Marty being chased by the
Libyan terrorists and then we get to the Transformers
and all hell breaks loose Well, and Ravage and
Rumble are scouting it out for Megatron. Yep.
And then Rumble is like, the car vanished. What
do you mean it vanished? What I said, Megatron,
flash of light, gone. Yep. And then Ravage scans
and they're like, trans -temporal particles detected
and Megatron's like, time travel. He's like,
how are they doing that? And instead of like,
they were doing the true deception thing. Yeah,
very much so. Yeah. And he was about to shake
things up and Bumblebee got in the way. And what's
funny is they still were trying something terrible,
not. to be seen, the Decepticons and the Autobot.
It's like the Decepticons normally wouldn't care.
Yeah. Yeah, normally they wouldn't care, but
because I think they have to follow the Back
to the Future rules of the whole, like, why are
the... Because it seems to me, and I could be
getting this wrong. Did the Autobots and Decepticons
come back from the future? In this? Or were they
already? No, they were on the ark. They were
already here. Okay. Yeah, this was like 84, like,
when they woke up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep, yep,
yep. Because it's, yeah, because it's 85. Okay,
yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, right, right. I will
say, I find this absolutely great how we do start
with Optimus and Bumblebee and then we eventually
get to Rodimus. That was hilariously good. I
do find it weird how Marty goes to sleep in one
timeline and wakes up in the other but remembers
everything. Yeah, that was a little... It's a
little bit of a paradox there. Yeah. Yeah. Because
it reminds me of when he got... In the original
movie, in the second movie, when he goes... At
the end of the first one, he goes back, but in
the beginning of the second one, he comes back.
Yeah, but he travels, whereas here, he doesn't.
Yeah, no, he doesn't. He remembers and he shouldn't.
Yeah, he shouldn't. But I did like the shocking,
you know, don't just stand there, gaping, get
on the transport before we get zapped. Zapped?
And then they're in an energon. Internment camp.
Yep. I love the designs. I really dig the art.
Mari and Doc could stand to look a little bit
better, but they're not bad, but the Autobots
and the Decepticons... They look perfect. They
look perfect. I mean, it's a specific design.
It's still G1, but it's not your standard 84G.
It is and it isn't. It's... It looks like a modern
deco of it. Yeah, yeah. Bumblebee looks like
he could be off the Volkswagen assembly line
yesterday. Or another brand car. Yeah, yep. I
was really enjoying the appearances and the designs
and Biff, you could clearly tell, and George
McFly. Yeah. Oh, Biff. What a butt head. Yeah.
And Starscream is still his taskmaster. And you
see Biff, instead of him ruling everyone like
he thinks, he's like, Lord Starscream, sir, I
didn't know we were scheduled for an inspection.
Yeah. Yeah. Biff is a lackey. It's like doon,
doon, doon on his head. Yeah. Yeah. Biff is a
total lackey. But I found it funny though that
Marty flings a trash can lid at Starscream. He's
like, who dares? Who dares assent Starscream?
All's I can think of is, and I know this is not
what they're going for here, but all's I can
think of is Mikey and Turtles 3 with the burnt
pizza. Frisbee also good. Zing. And then I love
the fact that he gets on this skateboard. This
is just what I needed. And then the DeLorean
comes out of nowhere. Yup. Yup. Comes out of
nowhere. Okay, so overall, how do you feel about
Gigawatt? I really like them. I love the design.
And I like the fact that he's reminiscent of
Doc Brown, because he even goes, great Scott.
Yeah. So I like him. I like him as a character.
I like him in the comic. I like the fact that
there is a transforming DeLorean out there. I
think that's cool. However, skills is something
I could have done without. It was, but I didn't
hate him. I do really like the DeLorean transformer
though. Yeah, no, absolutely. But yeah, skills.
I mean, at least he's not a hoverboard, thank
God. But yeah, still. Yeah. So we get the reveal
of Gigawatt, and that's how the first issue ends,
I believe, and her first or second out and on.
So, yeah, so the Whole thing with meeting up
with skills and gigawatt and Starscream doing
his thing and like Starscream Jesus Oh Starscream
he just Doesn't matter who writes him as long
if it's 80 if his classic Starscream he's going
to be That same personality, which is great.
At least they're not, you know, drastically changing
it. And yeah, we get to the alternate timeline
and the Decepticon internment camp and, like
I said before, Rodanus Prime. I love it. Absolutely
love it. What do you think of the art overall?
I really enjoyed it, despite the human appearances.
I loved the robots. I loved the colors. I loved
how they captured everything. It almost reminded
me of that... What was that group's video game
that they had? High Moon Studios? No, they did
the Back to the Future game years ago. Telltale?
Yeah, it almost reminds me of that in a sense.
Yeah. So it was already kind of in my memory
there. And so when I saw the Transformers or
I saw them, it kind of melded really well. But
it's still an original take all the way around,
but I really did enjoy the art. Yeah. From the
backgrounds to the character designs. It's the
only again the only like you've said the only
problem I really have it like George and Lorraine
look fine Biff looks fine. It's just Marty and
Doc There are certain angles that they show Doc
and I'm just like that just doesn't look like
Doc Like the part where he's talking to rumble
your damage keep back human It just doesn't look
like the dog Einstein looks more like he actually
is supposed to look like but Doc just doesn't
I don't know, and I get it. They probably obviously
couldn't get the likeness rights for Christopher
Lloyd. I don't know why. What else is he doing
these days besides being retired or whatever?
Mandalorian Season 3, I heard. What about Mandalorian
Season 3? I heard he's acting in it. Oh, really?
Yeah. That's interesting. As who, I have no clue.
Yeah, I don't think the trailer showed that.
No, but I read something about it earlier today.
Interesting. Mm -hmm. That's gonna be cool, actually.
Yeah. Well, at least he isn't, uh, you know,
hurtling towards the sun, so as I'm scrolling
through the story here, folks, we've got Rumble
doing his pilo driver thing. We get up to a point
where Megatron says, Reconstruction in progress.
Rumble, is that you? Aren't you a sight for sore
optics? And Reconstruction basically has Optimus
and everybody else hound and... Who is that?
Is that not Skids? Oh, Smokescreen. Basically,
it's all of their body parts. And the fact that
there end up being two rumbles and Megatrons
like, oh boy, I need to get rid of one of these
guys. Yeah. Those time paradoxes guys you gotta
you gotta be aware of those. Oh Man No, I did
not know this because I am actually I've got
the the TF wiki pulled up as well even though
I'm not looking at it, but Jigawatt is not the
only he's not the first unlicensed DeLorean Transformer
that honor goes to someone called swindler He
was part of the Marvel Comics continuity he was
in the Japanese generation one cartoon continuity
and he was also in Dream Waves and IDW's Comic
continuity he was in the war for Cybertron trilogy
marketing material, but obviously he wasn't anywhere
near war for Cybertron Interesting yep So other
than having the humans serve the robots, what
is Megatron's master plan here? Because he just
seems to like blowing up people. I mean, I know
it's Megatron and that's, you know, what bad
guys do, but like, at the end of the day, he's
not doing much. Time travel, wipe out Autobots.
That's, yeah, that's true. Um, let's see what
else. Yeah, and I do like, so I'm up to the point
where we get to Hill Valley, let's see. The work
camp in 2015 and you've got George and Lorraine,
you know, working for the Constructacons and
I find this absolutely hilarious. You have the
construction vehicles having the humans build
something for them. That is just absolutely hilarious
to me So yeah, what what else are you thinking
on this I Think it's it's kind of interesting
that they have Rodimus in this and kind of Explaining
everything away. Mm -hmm Megatron wearing the
the King's robe Yes, yeah Starscream Cape, that's
right. Yep Man Yeah, it's it's just so fun And
that's a good thing I mean the crossovers are
meant to be fun and they're meant to you know
I mean like we said we've got some nitpicks here,
but in general I Did very much enjoy this as
we get to issue three we open with the construct
icons And And yeah, their personalities are all
G1 Constructicons, especially Hook. I hear Neil
Ross coming out of that mouth anytime, and Biff
actually runs away from them. Oh man, poor Biff.
Then you get Doc, and he's cooking Decepticons.
Yep, yep. You get George and Lorraine in on it.
Now everybody's out to save the timeline because
that's what you gotta do. Hello, George and Lorraine.
Starscream, coming here. That's so good. The
colors in this are great. Yeah, I've pretty much
enjoyed like a lot of the the designs, the colors,
like when Biff shows up, he's Decepticon purple.
Yeah, so Marty and the Back to the Future Autobot
team are basically trying to stop the Decepticons
from doing what they're doing. And Megatron thinks
he can stop them, even though he can't. And yeah,
it's just fun. It's just pure unadulterated fun.
I like the parts later where Biff gets his own
exosuit. Yeah, Biff getting the exosuit. I'm
just like, oh, Biff. Bumblebee having an eye
patch. I saw a panel earlier where he was missing
his right side door. I was like, wait a minute,
when did that fall off? But yeah, I mean with
everything that they've gone through in this
in this comic it's like holy crap and Rodimus
has holes in him and Cracks all over. You know,
I Love that Of course for me I only hear Tim
Curry with this one but fleshling scum He has
got to stop doing that and you know Rodimus replies
in the next panel, that can be arranged. All
I can hear of is Tim Curry and the three musketeers
is Cardinal Richelieu anytime I see that line.
I like the Rodimus punch. That's hilarious. That's
so funny. In the third issue, Marty sends Biff
to the waste, the trash compactor. Yep. In the
exosuit. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Because, you know,
you got to crush it. It's just like when he goes
in the manure. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I love
all the little callbacks. Yeah. It's an old manure
joke. And yeah, the third issue ends with the
clock tower coming to life. And I'm just like,
whoa. Rodimus's face, like, like just as it's
happening in bumblebees, like their mouths are
hanging open like, oh, crud. Yeah, yeah Rodimus
is like And I know this is not his line, but
spike isn't here to say it but oh shit, what
are we gonna do now? And Okay, I don't mind the
arc being a robot Like I don't mind that at all.
I think that's cool. I don't mind gigawatt, gigawatt,
whatever you want to call them. I don't mind
him being a robot, you know, coming out of a
DeLorean. But this watch tower transfer, thank
God they never tried to make this into a toy.
First of all, who would buy this? Somebody that
likes giant robots. I guess, but... I'm not a
fan of giant robots, so I have no care. Oh. I
mean, Megatron did get larger and larger and
larger as he progressed throughout Beast Wars,
so. True. So I mean, you know, you kind of do
have a thing for big bots and you cannot lie.
No, I don't like the combiners or the city robots
and those type. I mean, normally I do. Normally
I'm cool with it, but this just makes no damn
sense. I'm sorry to the artist, but the design
is kind of ugly. Like, I don't know. So yeah,
we end issue three with Doc Brown saying, looks
to me like we need to beat the clock once and
for all. My eyes rolled so hard just now it was
audible across the room. I mean, I get it. That's
Doc Brown's sense of humor and that's fine. I
think the only thing that I absolutely love about
the fact that there is a clock tower transformer
is the final cover for issue four with this,
like, time scepter in the center and you have
the Autobots and the humans and then the clock
tower up at the top there. With gigawatts face
in the center of the timepiece. I thought I think
that's really really cool So yeah chapter four
issue four is essentially just a race against
time Unintended and I love that doc fixes the
the flex capacitor. Yep Absolutely The overall
message of this comic folks is basically what
Rodimus says on this one of the panels on this
first page, huh? This is why you'll never win,
Decepticon, Autobots, and humans working side
-by -side. Freedom for all! No destruction for
all! Rodimus is down! But we're picking up speed!
There's no time, Marty! You have to leave us
behind! When this baby hits 88 miles per hour,
you're gonna see some serious shit. He's like
we did it doc and then in like it's funny as
license plate goes and it's his gigs. Yep. I
Thought that was a nice touch And then he shows
up and then he's like all smashed up. Yep Because
he he whacks into the other DeLorean yeah, and
smashes it and Rumble's like, wait, what? Yeah,
Rumble doesn't know what the hell's going on.
Yeah. And neither does Biff. Well, and Biff comes
to the rescue. That's true. Biff does. And...
He says, be a pathetic Earthlet. It's Earthling,
you idiot. So they have to chase rumble down
the little little hole here and then rumble comes
up against optimus prime jazz bumblebee and Ron
Yeah And is that yeah ratchet on the left on
the right hand side by the movie No, I couldn't
tell because I wasn't zoomed in far enough and
I was like wait a minute Who the hell is that
white transformer? And then they dump an energon
truck of on top of them, you know Which I'm surprised
that they did that because No, the okay. No at
first. I thought that was long haul. I thought
that was the construct a con at first and But
yeah rumble gets energon dumpage on him and and
Optimus Prime has another one of his kneeling
poses. Where is Marty McFly? Then I think it's
funny they put the regular DeLorean back together.
With the help of Gigawatt. Yep. Yep. Is it weird
or... I don't know. And they created a time travel
paradox. Yep. Yep. They did. You see both Optimus
and Rodimus. Yeah, that's what I was just going
to say. Is it weird? I know that doesn't happen
often because one leader usually has to die so
the other one can take his place kind of thing.
The hate plague notwithstanding considering that
Optimus had to defeat Rodimus. I like seeing
them stand side by side. It still looks weird
to me. Well, they didn't headmasters. Yep before
prime sacrificed himself again. Yep Yep, yep,
yep And yeah, everything works out and Marty
or does it Well, we're led to believe that it
does because until the very last panel. Yeah.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So what I'm getting
to here is that we think that, you know, traditionally
for Back to the Future, the end of the film,
Marty gets the four by four doc and the Autobots
go back to the future or do something or whatever.
And then Marty goes to drive off and we see the
end question mark because his 4x4 truck has a
Decepticon logo on it. Yep. I think that might
be the coolest Decepticon logo that I've seen
though. Because it's 3D. Yep. I just want to
see his truck transform now. I don't think we're
gonna get that chance. I know. It just sucks.
I only want it because then I could retool it
as my old truck. Uh -huh, yep. Yeah, so Transformers
Back to the Future, I absolutely dug it. I thought
it was great. I thought it was fun. You take
an interesting concept like the Transformers
and Back to the Future and you combine them and...
Turns out to be maybe a not so believable story,
but I guess it could be but I mean it's all time
travel. It's all you know But it was fun. Yeah,
exactly. That's that's the thing. It was fun
and it was interesting And it led to places that
you didn't think it was gonna go Because I can't
count on on any digits How many times Biff switched
sides? First he was trying to play it up for
Starscream and the Decepticons, then he was trying
to play it up for the Autobots, and oh man, Biff.
Oh boy. All right, what are we going to rate
this zero to five? I'll give it a four and a
half. Overall. Yeah, overall, I'm right there
at a four out of five overall for me. I liked
it. I enjoyed it. I thought the story was great.
I thought the art was great. It's just a couple
of things stick out that I have to take one point
off for, and they're just little piddly things,
but overall, it's not a bad comic at all. No.
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