Harrow County Vol. 1

Hey guys, this is Rob Paulsen and you're listening

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Am I the first very special guest or just I think

so. I think so. You're one of the few people

that have come up so far that I think has a little

bit more of a background when it comes to comics

than my previous guess. So it's a different type

of comics concierge episode this time around.

I dabble. I dabble. I dip my toes into comic

book ink every once in a while, if you will.

And I also congratulate you guys on your 100

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was a great episode. I know actually Kevin Thomas

and Steve Phillips guested on it, did some voices.

It's amazing. I highly recommend people checking

it out. It's a lot of fun. Yeah, Stephen Cavill

great Steve's impression of Kermit second to

none amongst other things on that show and Kevin

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and one of our skits. So yeah shout to you guys

too You know actually putting those guys in retainer

for us. So I feel like I'll text in the mail.

Don't worry about it. So good Yeah, that illustrious

podcast check. We all go for it. Exactly. Yeah.

So speaking of that, like I mentioned, you have

a little bit more of a history when it comes

to comics compared to some of the people I've

had on here so far. So what is your experience

with comics? Have you have certain books that

you tend to gravitate towards? What have you

really been reading recently? Or has it been

something you've been staying away just with

the vast amount of media that's out there currently

today? I mean, normally, of course, I'm more

of a movie watcher, you know, sometime TV watcher,

but going back in time, some of my early memories

were going to comic book shops, like in my local

neighborhood. I remember pretty vividly the first

time. I kind of found that comics were kind of

a thing. It was with my dad and he was collecting

all the Death of Superman books. And it was after

Superman, spoiler in case anybody didn't read

it back in the 90s, Superman got killed by Doomsday.

And I know a lot of people are still pissed off

about that, but it is what it is. But I remember

him buying like all these comic books for me

and it was like, oh, you can't open them though.

So it was like, what? I don't get. This thing

they those are going to take people to college,

right? Because like that Yeah, that's what everybody

thought it was going to be like if you collect

all these comic books and they're in pristine

condition This is your tuition to any school

that you want to go to Little did we know that

those comic books they made millions upon millions

of copies Second third fourth editions of them.

So they meant absolutely nothing And I was also

really in the comic book cards as a kid trading

them. So the the flair comic book cards the God,

I mean, who else may come? Skybox, all those

people that were making the comic book cards

back in the day. And that was the cool thing

as a kid to collect those comic book cards. So

I didn't really necessarily read the comic books,

but I was reading all like about the comic book

characters, like, you know, what what their mental

powers are, their dexterity there. It was really

cool to kind of talk about that in the lunchroom

and things like that and then trade them with

people that you knew in school. And then later

on down the line, I think. My best memory of

like comic book collecting was always Spawn.

I was a huge image kid back in the day when everybody

came on board for my image when it was Todd McFarlane

and Rob Liefeld and Jim Lee and all these people

that were making these super graphic, gory, crazy

comic books. And the fact that also Spawn was

kind of, he was a black superhero, which is,

you know, all the rage now, of course. And Spawn

was kind of like the first one, not the first

one, but he... came from an independent label

and you didn't really know he was African -American

until you read like some of the backstory where

it talked about how he was CIA agent, he was

betrayed and things like that and I just loved

the imagery of Spawn and the characters that

were created between Violator and then his clown

form and then Jason Wynn I always thought was

a badass character and you know um The Tony Twist

and Overt Kill and Tremor and all these other

characters, I guess, came down the line too.

So I remember collecting those comics until about

issue 160 or something like that. And I still

have them all, you know. So I was a huge spawn

collector and then it got weird. And then I just

kind of gave up because I didn't really have

space to put any more comic books. And then...

Later on in life. I kind of went back to my roots

and started collecting series or like, you know

comic book arcs that I really liked like The

Maximum Carnage series I really loved and whenever

a spider -man and venom teamed up to fight carnage

I love that and I think one of my favorite kind

of mini arcs was in Ghost Rider and X -Men teamed

up to fight the brood that was some of my favorite

Drawings of Ghost Rider and the X -Men and I

thought we saw the brood was really cool, too.

So little tiny Things like that always kind of

capture my attention. When you're an adult, you

can go and seek these things out easier than

a kid. Now when you're a kid, you have to beg

your mom or dad for money. He's like, I want

Spider -Man 240. He's like, no, you can't have

it. It's like, oh, I'll get it one day, I guess.

So that's kind of my thing with old school, like

older comics. But then recently... Revisiting

old graphic novels is things I like now, so revisiting

all the old Batman graphic novels going from,

you know, Dark Knight Returns to Dark Knight

Strikes Again, everything in that kind of era,

and then even just collecting the Scott Snyder

runs of all the... Batman stuff too, so those

are really awesome. And at this point now, I

kind of find it hard to get into a lot of comics

because they're switching everything up now.

They're rebooting, I feel like, every other year

at this point. They're rebranding every other

year at this point now, too. I think DC's had

three different logos within the past maybe six

years or something, and Marvel keeps changing,

too. And I don't know, if I want to... Get my

marvel fix. I watch the movies most of the most

of the time now, too I don't I skip past the

comic books that I know eventually they're going

to make an arc From the comic book onto the big

screen. So that's where I'm kind of out with

comics right now That's an interesting point

too because I think a lot of people are where

they think or assume that oh people see the movies

They enjoy the movies. They'll want to read the

comics But it tends to actually have the opposite

effect where it's like I saw the movies and why

would I need to go? You know that that did it

for me that gave me my fix So it's yeah, I get

what you're saying and it's funny that you mentioned

that regarding the relaunches and you know all

the reboots and things like that that Marvel

and DC have done and the purpose of that, you

know people think is to like oh to get new readers,

but what it really well, I think what they're

trying to do is bring back old in some ways like

DC Marvel have done it different where DC is

legitimately rebooted and they change their continuity

where Marvel just like They don't go all the

way with it, they just rename it, rebrand it,

you know, they're doing a fresh start this summer,

just like starting number ones all over again

with new creative teams and things like that.

So there are, and we can, we'll talk, there are

a lot of great comics, there's actually like...

Right now, the hardest part, I think, is it's

exploded with the amount of books that are out,

much more, many more in the popular shares than

there ever before. You mentioned image and, like,

image changed the game. And now, even, like,

more so with creator -owned series that are popping

up everywhere, you got... Dark horse to aftershock

which started not long ago boom studios The amount

of books that are out there It's tough just because

it's like you can get lost in it compared to

like just think of Netflix in And how many series

they had it's the same the same with type of

with comics currently I mean, they have made

it far more accessible now with just the digital,

almost like the on -demand comic, so you don't

have to go to your local comic book shop to collect

stacks on stacks and stacks because most of us,

if we're having kids, we have spouses or anything

else, we're running out of space with our milk

crates and everything like that to fill it with

comic books. So you have to just fill your hard

drive with all these digital comic books. And

that to me is a little bit sad because growing

up reading comic books all the time, Like something

tangible, same thing with books. Books, I think,

are a little bit more understandable because

books are big. Comic books are so small, they're

tiny. So it kind of loses that human element

a little bit when you're getting everything digital.

I mean, I understand the convenience of it, but

I don't know, call me an old fashioned guy or

something like that. But I kind of miss that

interactiveness of like, you know, thumbing through

the comic books and things like that, as opposed

to just looking on your computer and being done

with it. So. I don't know. That's a little sad.

I get that. I was, you know, the same way I was

all about the physical copies, but it's, you

know, honestly out of convenience and in just

ease. Like I can put 30 comics on an iPad where

carrying 30 comics is a lot, a lot harder and

just, you know, have lack of space is becomes

a problem having a kid. And so I do miss still

having those, those tangible books. I still get

them time to time when like, I go to a con and

I get some really great deals or something like

that, but... Yeah, I'm going run the weekly comic

book store and getting a stack of floppies I

did that a lot in college, but I haven't done

in a long time and I do miss it Just the smell

it's like that has a unique smell to it that

like yeah the the ink and the paper that they're

using and everything and depending on if you

get the glossy paper or just like the paper paper

that rips when you just like turn it the wrong

way it's like oh no, I wrote my comic book in

half, but you know things like that, but I find

myself now which is it's funny going back to

my dad now it's like I'll only really buy tangible

copies of things that I find Hey, that looks

like a really cool cover. It's a variant or something

like that. So the irony at the end is that I

turned into my dad. So go figure. Right. I feel

we all do that in some ways. Like, yeah, like

I'm getting really into World War Two and like

that was my dad's thing. So now it's like I'm

getting old. Yes. But we're talking about current

comics and books and this transition to the book

I did recommend for you. So. I did try to look

for something, you know, I looked at things you'd

like John to rise in it offered up a few different

options and The one we're talking about is Howard

County Howard Harrow County Harold County Yeah

by Colin bun coming from from Dark Horse and

there's a lot like horror books have exploded

There's tons of them and this actually I feel

has been by far like the best one Colin bun's

a really great horror writer. He's a lot of different

or a series And I thought maybe this would bring

a different dynamic to comics. Like you mentioned,

looking for something different. And I think

this kind of showcases how horror can be utilized

in the pages of a comic book. I did have some

concern. It gets weird just to put it blatantly.

So I am kind of curious how this actually ended

up working for you. I loved it. I mean, I mentioned

image comics, but I always loved the horror aspect

of a lot of the image comics. It's very visceral.

like, you know, scenes of blood, guts, gore,

things like that. But then I also loved reading

EC comic books too, like the reissues of Tales

from the Crypt. I always love things like that.

So when you gave me the options, this one kind

of crept, like kind of crept in my mind a little

bit and just seeing the actual cover of the book

where it's, it looks like just a thing of eyes

with like a, I can't even explain it. It looks

like, it looked like a dress, but it's really

like a hand coming out of a dresser. So just

the look of it, it looked very Gothic horror.

It just kind of appealed to me. It looked very

gritty and grimy and things like that too. So,

and I like the art style. It just looked minimalist,

but it looked creepy at the same time. Like I

wanted to know more about what are these eyes

and what's this like weird skin hand coming out

of a drawer gonna play into the actual book.

And it's a Dark Horse comic. I mean, I've read

some Hellboy a long time ago. So Mike Mengele,

I've read some of the Star Wars, Knights of the

Old Republic books, maybe a little bit of, madman

wasn't madman was on top cow i think he was on

dark horse mainly hellboy if anything i think

if people think of dark horse you think of hellboy

i think it's kind of synonymous with them and

reading the book i liked it because There are

words, there's some good storytelling elements

in it, but just the overall look, how it looks

like a painting almost. It reminded me a lot

of some of the panels in The Dark Knight Returns

a lot. So I had that kind of similar like kind

of art style that isn't overtly like big and

grandiose. It still looks kind of comic booky

a little bit, like independent wise. And it just

kind of gave me that same... visual look of some

of these other comic books that I don't need

a big stylized book. I need something that looks

creepy and cool and interesting with some good

writing around it. And it was only four issues.

So it was the first series of it. And yeah, you're

right. It gets really weird. You find out what

was in the drawer, of course, and it doesn't

give you a lot of answers why it's happening,

which I like. Of course, you see... the end result

of it. I don't know if I want to spoil the book

for anybody. Maybe we can get into that a little

bit later, but I love just, it was a story about

small town people, you know, being afraid of

witches and there's ghosts and ghouls in the

woods. And it's about centered around one girl

who doesn't really understand why she can commune

with a lot of these ghosts and spirits and creepy

things. And then come the end of the book. It

makes me want to read the next volume because

I don't know if I fully understood the end. I

kind of think I did, but it leaves it kind of

open to interpretation. Is it a flash forward?

Is it something that hasn't happened that will

happen? It's one of those things that I want

to read more now because I'm not sure what happened

exactly. Yeah, I understand that. What I think

this is actually I think it's pretty far in it's

like issue three something at this moment in

time So the good thing is there's there's plenty

more more to read where this came from and I

know what the core or especially like a challenging

genre because To do correctly whether whatever

medium you're in because like is it scary or

does it have a certain atmosphere to it? And

I know with film and you know coming from someone

who really likes film One of the biggest ways

that is done is through the use of score and

sound. You know, I think horror probably more

so than any other genre relies on that a lot.

Obviously with like a comic book like this, you

don't have that. You don't have that ability

to allow that immersive experience through auditory

means with just a comic. Will you still, without

that, with just the story that was being told,

will you still be able to get immersed in it

like you would any other type of horror story?

Mean like you said it is harder because you don't

have those moments where you're watching something

happen like real time I feel like with comic

books like when you're reading something panel

to panel your eyes skip to certain parts of the

book you might be reading the top three panels

top two panels depending if there's like a splash

page or something like that and Maybe on the

next page you might see something really shocking,

but if you're putting some of those Things that

are meant to like kind of frighten you or scare

you or put you on edge or make you uneasy. It's

a little bit harder in a book like that, but,

or in any horror book, but it doesn't, the story

was well told. Maybe I'm just desensitized by

the amount of horror movies and everything scary

I've seen in my entire life. So it didn't really

bother me. I mean, it could have been gorey or

one of the bothered me, but the fact that it's

dealing with, you know, things that And I think

it's a big theme in this book, too, about things

that scare you as a kid. And you kind of get

into that with some of the stories on the back

on the back few pages and even kind of these

tales from Harle County that are at the end of

every book. It adds more kind of dimension to

the town. It gives you more of a backstory about

some of the characters you might meet. But going

back to the just like the horror element, I mean,

I don't read a comic book to like maybe get scared.

I mean. I'm a horror fan anyway, and I understand

that it's, it is difficult. I mean, you have

to tell a good story. I mean, and that's what

I think is wrong with the movie. Like on the

movie side, they have good scares and things,

but the stories suck here. There's no scares

really, but the story is really good. It brings

you in. It makes you want to know more. It concentrates

on the characters too. Cause as opposed to an

hour and a half horror movie, you have what 34

issues at this point to concentrate on every

character. So. I like the fact that horror comics

do what they do I mean I love tales from the

correct comic books because they're super super

quick and they're always goofy and kind of like

tongue -in -cheek and you know they're twisted

and everything I love that aspect but I can never

say I've been scared by one of them I mean I

might be a little like oh god that's gross something

like that like I think comic books can gross

you out on the horror aspect but it's a lot harder

to Put you like oh boy, I'm frozen. I can't turn

then I can't turn the page Like at least in the

movies like all I'm scared I turn to turn it

off but with a comic book you're like, okay I

want to see what happens next. I'm I'm interested

in the story right now. Yeah, I agree I think

with the you mentioned kind of the artistic design

and there's almost a painting quality to it and

Some of the like more moments some of the elements

of it you think would be grow task Aren't like,

you know, you you would legitimately have like

hanging skin. Yeah That is the type of thing

that will work better with a comic than it would

possibly with an actual film or something like

that because the way you can depict it in a book,

you have more control over it, it looks a little

bit more natural. The way you can, the physics

of it I think make much more sense than page

of a book than you possibly would with a 3D image.

So I thought that was rather effective and you

know it does have a really great I think even

just the atmosphere in the way it's able to just

pace its story and the overall just design of

the different characters. There's a big great

use of like I think the economy of when it gets

to the brightness or some of the early scenes

where it feels very like of the time there where

you get into the more you know, horror aspect

where it sharply changes the colors to really

get really effective and really making the overall

horror elements pop like they should. One thing

I was reading this though, as we're going through,

I didn't notice like part of the story, you know,

you have... It's like this girl running away

trying to escape this town that kind of wants

to kill her for reasons He doesn't know but she

ends up running into like a lot of different

characters that do seem to come out of nowhere

I think later we do find out where they're coming

from but I was curious like as you're you know

reading the first few issues if that at all bothered

you because it seems like she would there was

a lot of convenience or Contrivance within the

first Two issues or at least it seemed like that

was the that at all like you were like, okay

What is she just gonna have a lot of great luck

when it comes to? All the problems she seems

to be facing I mean in the in the beginning of

it before you get to like the kind of twist That

happens at the end of like the third issue into

the fourth issue. I mean, yeah, there are some

like, you know Trials of convenience you run

into some other ghosts and goblins and big big

monsters in the woods and everything You're like,

oh where this come from where that come from.

It doesn't bother me so much because I Saw kind

of where it's going a little bit. I mean, I know

it's a horror comic I know there's some type

of like supernatural aspect of it and with things

popping up and at least they used it as like

a vessel for storytelling a little bit and not

just like a red herring where it's like Oh, well,

here's some flaming skeletons. Why are they here?

They kind of they explain it in a certain way

And then they kind of explain her kind of power

over that. So it didn't bother me so much. I

mean, to somebody who maybe is an horror or comic

book reader or something like that, they might

find that a bit like this doesn't make any sense.

And that might be enough for them to kind of

put the book down and not want to continue. But

it almost came off a little bit to me as like.

Her Odyssey, her own little special Odyssey going

through the woods. So she's running into these

different trials, different characters, different

things like that. So I read it almost kind of

like for the mythic quality of the whole thing.

And it didn't bother me. I mean, I liked, I mean,

it gets a little weird kind of what is it? I

guess in the fourth book, when it introduces

another character out of nowhere and he's part

of some weird witch cult. that is protecting

her and it's like oh okay well I'm glad this

character's here and it kind of it gets a little

wacky with why he's doing this and it starts

getting into more of the her character like or

who she's supposed to be in the grand scheme

of things so I like that because at least it

explained things and it's it's really weird it

is odd but I like the kind of creationist kind

of method that they're going for and, you know,

almost like a Frankenstein type thing too, which

I think is really cool. So there's some cool

aspects of it and it just made me want to read

more of it. It was that far out there, that wacky

and very just B -movie -esque almost to a lot

of degree. I mean, it was hard for me to take

a lot of this book seriously. I don't know. I

mean, it just seems like it's a lot of... Things

that you're scared of as a kid and the kind of

writer put it into the book and I think it's

kind of some of the point, you know, I do I do

like how it does seem to focus on the things

that scare us and It certainly sets it up to

the fact that we tend to be scared at the wrong

things like a lot of things just through appearance

through Just the look you would think okay those

those are the antagonists because they look like

flaming skulls or they look like demons weren't

and when in fact that the true evilness that

is there isn't actually you know looks like the

everyday people and I certainly think there's

a point being made there how You know it judge

a book by its cover piece of it I think it's

a little bit deeper than that but certainly I

think he likes to play with the idea of using

our expectations against us not just you know

within the characters but also their narrative

which I thought was kind of interesting the way

that he had some of those contrivances, but in

fact He kind of turned that on its head and you

realized no in fact that there was actually much

more to it than there seemed at the time without

spoiling it and I I honestly when I went back

and read reread this I forgot about that twist

and it worked for me on a second time interesting

that you mentioned that you were taking seriously

or like you were just enjoying the ride because

I think that there are different ways to view

it and Depending at where you're coming from

if you're finding it really creepy or you just

kind of there There is almost like a weird sense

of humor. That's that play here Yeah, I think

certainly that that's usually I think where we're

good or tends to be the most effective when it

can not take itself overly seriously and but

still be able to like not be like not become

like I don't know like scream three and become

a laugh at its own joke or become the very thing

it's trying to parry parody Exactly. Yeah, I

mean, I'm glad they stayed away from that. I

mean, they kept it very good on the level to

before like a like a gothic horror story. I like

that all kind of like people don't really understand

what's really going on. You're still kind of

a gray area about where this book is taking place

because I mean there are like no farms and overgrown

forests and people in like you know covered wagons

type of thing and you know there's kind of like

an old -fashioned sense to it and then later

on at the end of the book you kind of get into

more of a cosmopolitan city where it's like okay

how far is this taking place in the future too

so I'd like that whole where's this taking place

as well too I mean it could take place anytime

but it seems like a world trapped in its own

time. But I liked it and some of the stuff that

I think one of the other books you recommended

to me was Preacher and I was. I was on the fence

about saying, okay, let's go for Preacher because

everybody knows it. I have it. It would have

been easy to get into and grab. And the first

book is really funny and awesome and off the

wall. So there were even things in this where

it kind of reminded me of Preacher a little bit

too, with some of the kind of weird kind of,

not the sense of humor per se, but some of the

weird Gothic elements of it too. Some of the

mythic. A lot of those elements kind of reminded

me of Preacher a lot too. Yeah, I can certainly

see that I've see preacher was one that I've

only read the first volume because I find that

there's a lot of great comments I still haven't

yet yet to catch up I could see where that certainly

was coming one thing I when I when I first read

this The the movie that kind of came to mind

or what's going to mine was actually the witch

from a few years ago Yeah, you mentioned like

it's like a loss in its own time and I felt like

it could exist I guess the witch was like wait,

you know that was Fourteen hundred sixteen hundred

something like that. I'll say sixteen hundreds.

Yeah a couple couple hundred years before yeah

or something like this this happened, but I thought

like I had the same feeling I had with that word

though This is less to do with theology or there's

not as much like biblical pieces of this which

I find is funny because I feel like when you

have a lot of stories that centers on center

on which is that half that ends up being a big

piece of it where Somehow, you know theology

play plays a role and I guess you could say it

does in this but not in the sense of like not

a specific theology Just like you mentioned previously

the idea of creationism and free will and how

that plays a role I thought was a good departure

from the typical, you know horror story Which

I know was with tough with with horror because

there are certain expectations People have when

what they want to see part of the genre, but

you also don't want to be derivative So I think

I think this does a good Job of providing some

of those expect expectations, but not adhering

to them and being able to kind of do its own

thing at the same time Yeah, I like that aspect

of not feeding into the tropes of horror I mean

you're still getting everything you would from

like a witch story I mean you're getting the

witch you're getting like kind of like the sacrifice

elements of it But you get this oak this different

kind of spin were The witch in me is almost like

the protagonist and then everything else around

her becomes the antagonist. So I like that idea

where you're not automatically making the witch.

You're not making her a sympathetic character,

but you're making her a character that you can

understand, you know, in a lot of ways. I mean,

she was... born out of whatever she's born out

of and then a lot of people don't aren't asked

to be born you know they're just born however

whatever way i mean maybe it's the devil maybe

it was lucifer who created her she came out of

the earth and started talking to these town folk

and then she kind of does her own thing with

her own little kind of cult that she's created

for herself. But I like that. It kind of bucks

a lot of the conventions that you're used to

in these, like these witch and pagan stories,

you know, supernatural stories, things like that

kind of gives it a little bit of a life of its

own. And almost, I mean, at the end, almost kind

of gives it a little bit of like a superhero

esque type of story a little bit too with the

main character. Cause what is it? The main character's

name is what? Oh, Emmy. So you kind of make her

a little bit of like a superhero at the end,

which I kind of like. So yeah, definitely. Were

there any other questions or anything else you

want to bring up regarding this book? Not really.

I mean, I'd like to continue probably reading

the next volume or two and see if I can keep

up the momentum with it. But because it intrigues

me. I like the story where it's going. It kind

of ends on a big cliffhanger. Like you're kind

of left with a. What's what's going on here?

I don't know where I am right now. So I like

to really go back and revisit that and see if

there's good some good callbacks going back to

the first volume and maybe the next three, four,

however many volumes they have at this point.

Yeah, and I think that's like one of the benefits

to doing that, like a long term horror series

and ongoing horror series is that you can really

take your time and. And really allow the story

story to play out in ways like you know people

talk about the walking dead and how it's that

like zombie movie that never ends and I think

you can take that and utilize it with any type

of horror. genre horror story like this is doing

where you can sometimes with horror we talked

about like people push the scares or push the

jump scares and this is really story first and

I like like I said I have not read the other

volumes I do wish to do that one thing I would

say you know one big benefit of this and we talked

about digitally is is the service of comics Comixology

unlimited where like like you'd say basically

Netflix or comics you pay like a five whatever

monthly fee or something like that and You get

access to like different volumes. I think this

first volume is available on there and they tend

to add things as they go So if you're you know,

looking to jump on and you know, you want quick

access to it That's always a good option Marvel

has their own thing too. But with the on comics

ology The good thing is you get from Marvel you

get dark horses in their image has a lot of stuff.

So I'm not getting paid for them. I Clearly don't

have that much power, but yeah, we're clearly

not mixed mentioning comics ology .com unlimited

at all here Not at all. I mean, I'd be happy

to because it is a service I regularly use, but

I think it's also a good one if, especially,

you know, jumping into a comic series, it's tough.

So if you just want to test the waters, it's

a good option. Also, what I like to do at the

end is, based upon the conversation we've had,

and your enjoyment or lack of enjoyment of the

title I recommend, thinking about where could

you go next outside of the next volume of this.

And I mentioned Colin Bunn does have other horror

series right now. He had a series last year called

The Unsound, and what he did with that is similar

to this, except that he took the... The type

of story you get with like insane asylum Storyline

in any turn that on its head and I think it's

probably not as good as harakani just because

I think the art isn't that strong but it's also

it is a It is still a very very good series that

I liked a lot There's a really good Sabrina comic.

Hope you watch Sabrina in the 90s. Oh, yeah,

but a teenage witch not at all like the TV show

It's more of a gothic tale It is very similar

to their titles and data relaunch of the regular

Archie book and Sabrina the bad thing is it comes

out so irregularly they have one volume and I

don't think that came out like a couple years

ago the second volume hasn't come out yet, but

That was also really good. And then like on the

other side just you talked about loving image

and I think there's some good titles that show

What images right now? Regarding their greater

own books. There's I don't know if you've ever

read saga Yeah, I've read I think I've read the

first nearly the first volume of saga because

that's the one that everybody Loses loses their

mind over and I don't but they're on like issue

42 now or something like that 40 49 just came

out the the week prior I feel like that books

been out for like 10 years though. It's been

out for well They take they take like six months

breaks typically They do they're on for six months

and that's a bad thing with like we that's a

conversation for another day when it comes to

yeah There's a lot of breaks in between but there's

I think Everett has but the series other series

that are really good east to west It's hard to

explain, but it's like a post, not post -apocalyptic,

but it's a future story where the Civil War ended

differently. It's kind of like a Western, like

a futuristic Western that deals with the horsemen

of the apocalypse. And it's by Jonathan Hickman

and reading his books very much reminds me of

like watching a Christopher Nolan movie. They're

meticulously made. They're a little bit emotionally

cold, but impressed by the craft of everything

he can do. And then Brick Reminder has a lot

of great series. Black Science, I don't know

if you watched that show Sliders in the 90s.

I remember Sliders, Jerry O 'Connell, and John

Rhys Davies. Yeah. It's just these people that

can go to different dimensions. It's nothing

like the overall execution of it. It's nothing

like Sliders. But they have this machine that

goes to different dimensions. And it causes a

lot of problems. They get lost in it in a way.

It's really good. And he does Black Science.

And there's another book called Deadly Class.

which is another book that has led me to actually

kind of be in the comics a lot more. It's about

kids in the 80s that go to this assassin school.

Very retro in its depiction. It utilizes music

a lot. Just throwing some other books out there

if you're looking for something to kind of whet

the appetite a little bit more. It might be some

good avenues to go down. I'll get on comiXology

.com. Because maybe people keep putting it in

eventually they'll just allow it to happen I'm

just gonna put it in until it says like, okay.

Yeah, we get it That would be amazing, but yeah,

so I'm really glad you liked it That's awesome

to see and we'll certainly have to have you on

to maybe talk about the next volume or another

book But until then it Matt if people wanted

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I'd like to think so. After you read so many

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