Gotham Central

Hi, this is Christy Marks, the writer of Gem

and the Holograms and Beast Wars, and you're

listening to Geekcast Radio Network. I'm happy

to be the second member of Simplistic Reviews

and I gotta congratulate you, Dan. You have...

The classiest name for a podcast ever. It's like

I feel like I'm gonna be served like a cup of

espresso in one of those tiny cups at a dinner

where the main course is like nothing more than

like drips of paint brought out to me by somebody

dressed like Psylocke or Jean Grey or somebody.

It's just so classy. What are you doing today?

I'm on the comic book concierge. Well, you set

the standard high and then I just undercut it.

with every other episode so going to this classy

french restaurant i say what do you want but

by you know a couple months in it'll be the comic

kiosk so the comic hole in the wall i just like

alliteration i'm like stanley i like alliteration

it sounds like all right true believer but yes

this is the comic con tier's episode so dj is

a little bit different in the sense of he's a

fan of comics and does read them on a regular

basis, but I do recommend a book to him and we'll

get that into a second, but let's start there.

What is your current interest, like what got

you into comics? Are you a current reader or

are you a whenever you can type of reader? What

is your current status in the world of comics?

When I was like six years old, it was pretty

much Transformers and Jajo for me and then my,

I think my stepfather, he saw me watching Transformers

Generation 1. And though they did have comic

books based on that, too. But he saw me watching

and he's like, I'm going to show you something

else. I want you. I want you to watch something

a little bit more with a little bit more heft

in the story. And I sitting on his lap. I remember,

like I was just sitting on his lap in Holland,

Florida. He read me an issue of Thor, which was

his favorite comic book character, in which Thor's

hammer shatters inside of an eternal. He's like

just trying to destroy an eternal from the inside

and his Mjolnir. breaks why he breaks and he's

like reading it to me and it's like I don't know.

I think him reading it to me. It just felt like

I was in the book I was like, oh my god is great

He's acting out the parts and he's doing this

the Thor lines and back in a day Thor would say

like crazy stuff They don't do much of in the

MCU like Stan Yee back That kind of got me on

the train and I would rate his he had a huge

huge combo collection Which his mother threw

out when they moved which he was very bitter

about Yeah, I mean I was burning to all of his

comics of Thor and whatnot and then when I got

a little bit older I bought as I told you before

Punisher Warden on number 15 with spider -man

on cover. Yeah, it's but in my favorite comic

book character along with Punisher and then I

kind of fell off the map because comic books

were kind of raising in price I got I got back

on the train with one more day. I think when

Mephisto made a deal with spider -man Savant

may and these could it was his wife You have

to erase the memory of Mary Jane's and his wedding

for like an almost like a rebooted version I

think it was downslot. I can't I kind of got

on the trailer like maybe five six seven issues

of that and then I kind of like Shifted off and

I because as good as it was and I know there's

great stuff out now like amazing stuff out now

It's just I didn't I wanted to hold onto those,

I'm a nostalgicist. I like holding onto the memories

of, you know, the old school Amazing Spider -Man

with Eric Larson, and you know, Spectacular Spider

-Man, and Punisher Wardron with Jim Lee, or you

know, stuff like that. Nice, nice, yeah. It's

funny that you said that's like a jumping on

point, because I know for a lot of people, One

More Day was a jumping off point, because it

rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. I know,

it's like the Clone Saga. It's like, oh, you

got on with the Clone Saga? Yeah, that's funny.

I get that though, especially like you mentioned

the price point with comics because it can't

be expensive. I'm similar to you where I'll go

in for a while, I'll be reading comics regularly

for five years, but then... Take a break. I'm

on now. Of course. That's why I'm doing this

podcast, but that brought me to the comic I recommended

you and I threw a lot of recommendations at you

but the one we're going to be talking about is

Gotham Central and The reason being I know you

like Batman, of course like most people do but

also know you're a huge fan of the wire and I

know it's dangerous to compare anything to the

wire because you're just setting yourself up

for disappointment and maybe the wire is not

the best comparison it's more like NYPD blue,

but I thought it'd be a good way of Showing kind

of characters that you like but it's not necessarily

trying to it's not like it's a Aping off of the

90s series or would go against any of your established

memories of of Batman because he's more of a

background character So I thought that would

be a good middle ground of a story. So I was

curious how much you enjoyed Gotham Central or

what your opinions of it were The first thing

that struck me when I opened the book was the

art. It reminded me of like a colorized version

of Sam Hart's art on Johnston's The Coldest City,

which is what Atomic blonde is based on the movie

atomic bomb with Charlize Theron Gotham Central's

art done by Mike. I think his name is Michael

Lark It's very like old school and gritty which

matches the wire esque tone This comic starts

with right out the gate this comic book when

I was reading it I was like man first Dan knows

me too. Well, I gotta hide some more myself He

must know that I love the you know that you know,

I love the wire but I was like man, this is literally

Like I feel like I'm in like the what? This is

what I wanted the TV series Gotham to be like.

This is what I thought I'd get a cast of interesting

cop solving crimes in Gotham while Batman looms

in the background. Instead, I got like this.

I got fish Mooney and a prequel Dick Tracy like

TV show or whatever. I mean, from like the first

page or first two pages, we get Mr. Freeze and

Mr. Freeze that I'm not used to because it caught

me off guard because it's kind of like a sadistic

Mr. Freeze and because I remember Mr. Freeze

was introduced to me through the animated series

where he's very Nora Nora he's very like you

know emotionless and this is like a sadistic

Mr. Freeze come in the tech it's very like they

draw him just like the animated series Mr. Freeze

Uh, but yeah, I, I liked them as the, I was used

to them as the reluctant villain role and here

he's the villain and a man on a Mr. Freeze was

something, uh, I think they did really, really

interesting. And again, the procedural stuff,

questioning witnesses, canvassing the area. I

eat that stuff up, man. We could talk all day

about the wire and bunk and McNulty looking for

that bullet in that house and all that one expletive

or whatever. When they're questioning the witness,

I'm like, this is why can't Gotham be like, cause

I would watch like 17 seasons of it. Because

it's like, and the way they do it where like

Batman is around, but you don't really see it.

I mean, he's not really, he's important to the

story, but he's not in the story where it's almost

like, you know, You're following this guy and

uh, his name driver marcus driver. I believe

his name is uh fields. I can't remember I think

it's driver. Yeah marcus driver is the main like

the main character and just his resentment of

batman and How the cops how the different comes

if it's renee montoya future the question the

the way these people interact with how batman

is Again, that's what I wanted the gotham tv

show to be like where it's not that it's something

else and I really dug this book man. I just again

and then And when I was reading your description

of when you're giving it to me, when you're like,

okay, it's may not be for everybody. It may be

a little slow. And I'm like, well, I'm wondering

what he means by that. Cause if it's procedural

stuff, I don't care. You can take all the time.

If it's questioning witnesses and you're questioning

witnesses in the world of Gotham city, I'm in

and the first. I burned through like three issues

in like a day. So nice nice I'm glad it's a good

point about regarding Gotham because I remember

when I was getting announced That's what I assumed

it was gonna be I know they got the rights issue

where they can't show Batman on TV because of

some weird Whatchamacallit, but man if it was

like if that show was like this book, I think

it'd be ten times And it's not because Batman

is in it You don't need to I mean the way they

use Batman in this comic book. It's not like

they're it's to excess I think they show him

in five issues three times maybe yeah, and it's

like maybe like a quarter of the page they show

him and so usually is like saying like one sentence

and that's it yeah, and I think that like where

this goes right and that goes wrong is that I

think Gotham tries to almost make the the world

of Gotham into this fantastical place, but It

makes it much more interesting the way they handle

it where it's a real -world setting, but you

just have these insane type of Characters that

have these unlike ungodly or crazy powers which

makes it a little bit more interesting because

it it's more relatable that the economy of like

a general cop trying to get trying to track down

the supervillain there's just automatic stakes

there because they know that there's only so

far they can go and then like you mentioned like

the relationship between them and Batman and

how there is a mutual respect but also you see

there's like an underlying like resentment yeah

resentment is a good word towards him because

they feel like in a way he's responsible, but

I love the the one conversation they had about

how when they have an unsolvable crime and how

he becomes like the person that they Put the

name underneath and like you mentioned the wire

I just kept thinking of the wire when they would

have a they would use that board as well And

that's and that's what kind of the correlation.

I was making that right they when they showed

that board when Marcus is kind of like He's like

hitting a dead end. And I show the board where

his partner who's dead is on the thing. And this

is that one case. And I don't really say it's

like, oh, you right there, you know, it's driving

him because he's like, I got to get this one

case for my partner. I was like, when I saw the

board, I got the exact same. I think those probably

in every police station in the world. But I just

I just automatically think back to the wire.

But yeah, I think about Marcus and Batman. It's

almost like it's not like he's responsible. It's

like. They feel cheated using, like cheated out

of their justice using him. It's almost like,

you know, if Batman solves it, it's like we didn't,

we failed and this other guy had to come and

help us. And I like that aspect. I never, I mean,

I've seen people in comic books or cartoons,

Bullock, whatever, saying, you know, Batman's

a vigilante, he shouldn't do this. It was not,

it wasn't like that. It wasn't the vigilante

-esque, not entirely. It was more of like, I

need to solve this because he was my partner.

He had nothing to do with you, Batman. What you

do is fine, but he was my partner that went down.

I got to do this because that's how I get my

retribution. You doing it doesn't give me anything.

It's like a good parent, like, who learns not

to do things for people when they can do it for

themselves. Right, right, right, right, right.

Which, Batman, there's parts where I feel kind

of bad for Batman because Batman was like, I'm

sorry. He doesn't say, I'm sorry, but he's kind

of like... Like there's a scene I think I forget

which issue is what Batman's standing outside

Marcus's car and Marcus like drives away and

Batman's kind of like sitting there like it does

like all right So but I mean I completely understand

where Marcus is coming from In terms of the I

just need to get I need to do this I need to

do this for him He would want me to do this for

him Batman. You could help me but nah I mean,

it gets to that part in the first issue five

at the end with the, I guess, spoiler alert,

I guess, I don't know how we work with spoilers

here, but where he's dealing with Batman by the

signal, and he's like, he's just yelling at him

irrationally. And he's just like, you know, and

Batman's just like, okay, look, I get it, you

don't like me. Just don't turn this damn thing

on again. But yeah, I just I mean the characters

in the stuff that I liked a lot about this other

than Marcus and Batman thing I just like how

these different cogs Work together. I like the

the the jokey Sarge and it's sometimes a cop

will come in and you wouldn't see him again And

it just say something really good to do like

a procedural thing and that'd be it It's kind

of a mix of law and order in in the wire because

it has more it has the personality of the wire

but kind of the more Procedural stuff as a law

and order and again that stuff I dig which might

not be for everybody That was like somewhat of

my apprehension because I think about when I

was I recommended to fade out to Tim And like

he liked it, but he felt like it was just the

comic version of a story He heard before and

that was always kind of kind of my concern with

this is like is this just a typical? you know

detective story that we've seen just with you

know, a fancy graphing of The Batman universe

around it to make up for just general storytelling

or do you feel like without that? Batman aspect

without that world within it. It's still like

can hold its own I mean Yeah, I don't know. I

mean it could be I mean it very much is that

I just think it's done definitely where like

if I take it off the cover of this book or somebody

took it off the covers book and give it to me

and I started reading it and then I turn the

page and I see Mr. Freeze in the room holding

a gun I'm like, oh that's that shock kind of

like gets the show that gets the book That extra

juice and though they're kind of use if you take

the you know, make mr. Freeze Joe blow with a

gun. It's a cop book But I think they just took

that the elements they merged together, but they

merged together Well, I mean you can see people

will take two different things and I'm gonna

make this a spy movie in space or whatever and

it doesn't work I think they take it the Batman

universe and they put made a cop procedural because

that's how you pitch it It's a cop procedural,

but we follow the cops which on paper sounds

like I want to follow Batman Which is what we're

getting with the Gotham show where it's just

like I'm following, you know Gordon young Gordon

and I want to know more about the other stuff,

but this one I think they they got that balance

and they made you like these people they made

you like the precinct. They made you like how

fields work and fields doesn't work for you.

You got Renee Montoya there and her partner and

you got the sergeant. You got the other guys

and got it. Fields is part of a driver's partner.

You got all this other stuff and then you get

the added bonus of oh by the way Batman might

show up or this. this case might lead to the

riddler or something like that now i don't know

i have to keep reading to see if that gets tired

after i've only read five issues i don't know

maybe in 30s okay we get it oh so suddenly this

this this bullet we found here is leading back

to bain maybe that gets tired after 30 issues

i don't know but in the first five i was in i

was like okay this is how and it's brew baker

so i know the guy knows his way around a story

and stuff like that so Yeah, I think too. It's

like it's also tough because they also don't

want to get too far away from it because again

That's the entire idea that it should Exists

within that genre in order for it to be as effective

as it is for it to feel like a cop show with

Batman So I think I think it it balances out

those well because if we got too far away from

it You would end up like losing what's special

about it in a way, right? I like how like it

does build its mystery each you know with each

Issue and I feel like there's not like a wasted

moment in the sense of it's not like everything's

plot -driven There's a lot of good character

moments, but I love how like it all tends to

tie together. There's a little beat or a little

conversation that is happening as this other

cop is researching a certain crime that makes

him unrelated, but then they end up kind of looping

back and tying together by the end of it. But

I think ultimately, like you mentioned, what

really makes it work are the characters, and

that's what made The Wire work so strongly. And

so with this, where each one has their own strong

identity, they all have interesting conflict

in a way, but Like you said, there's a lot going

on with what they're trying to accomplish in

the way that they view their job compared to

like it's in this like superhero world. I mean,

great thing about the wires like or was was like,

you know, I could be all about McNulty this episode.

I'm be fine with it. Or it could be all about

Omar or could all be about Stringer. Like halfway

through like I guess the second issue. I didn't

know Marcus was even though he's on the cover.

I didn't know he was the main character. I thought

we're going to once Renee. Montoya showed up.

I was okay. We must be just following her because

I she's the question I know Renee Montoya has

a deep backstory in the Batman I was like, okay

She met but she kind of like shows up and then

she goes away and then I mean she might come

back and after issue five But then goes back

to Mars like okay, they're really gonna follow

this arc and then I realized yeah This it's all

about this his redemption thing I didn't even

realize it because it jumps from cop to cop and

all these cops I could follow I could follow

Renee I could follow Marcus I could follow the

other Keep calling him the Sarge. I think I forget

is I think they just call him Sarge. He's like

fat Danny Glover Who tells these really bad jokes?

So, I mean I think that's Makes it hold its own

is that I don't need I don't the restraint of

using You know the superhero stuff I think was

right on that line because it had been easy to

be like, okay Uh, just have batman show up and

then the whole case it's at the cops side by

side with the batmobile They didn't do that batman

is literally like Uh an app not saying afterthought.

He's just like pepper on a steak. He's not the

steak Yeah, and I think too is that even though

there might be the setup might be To have like

a tropey setup. None of the characters feel like

tropes. Some of the characters feel like cliches.

They all build their own type of story within

this. So it doesn't feel like overly familiar.

It's not like you have the Sarge who continues

to yell at them for breaking the rules. They

have a sense of realism in that, which makes

it kind of crazy when you have real cops fighting

against a dude that has a fire jet pack or something

like that. It adds a nice little layer to it.

They had the whole law and order, criminal intent,

I caught you moment, which I was like, hey, law

and order, criminal intent, I caught you moment.

That's every episode where Vincent D 'Onofrio

will turn his head sideways and then he'll just

break you down and where he comes in, or the

Colombo moment, I think that's the original Norman

Clayton or whatever, where they play dumb and

then slowly he starts to realize you're caught.

Don't worry. Don't I did it 30 minutes ago kind

of situation. We already got your cut all this

This is all pomp and circumstance. I like that

I like that stuff when it comes out there because

it's to see them how they're gonna do it Yeah,

and it will felt in the first arc We do have

the fact that they have to rely on Batman to

capture. Mr. Freeze and you think I guess that's

gonna be the norm but then What you see is that

no that these are these are capable police officers

who can take Down or solve crime without the

aid of batman, which I think is corresponding

to the story itself saying hey We can tell a

good story here without having to bring in batman

every time Um, and like you said, I only read

the first volume. I own more but i've only read

the first volume of this So, I don't know if

it does get tired. I but i don't think it does

because i mean the greg rucka and ed brubaker

are two of my favorite writers and you know brubaker

is a king of crime when well not literally that'd

be bad in the writing genre he's a crime he's

a criminal brubaker is a criminal it makes me

wonder if he is because he does a lot of great

crime stories uh but but i think too it just

also makes the world world of batman feel more

interesting because you see how people try to

make it work within everyday life, like how kids

will try to collect the batarangs and sell them

on the bootleg eBay and stuff like that. That

makes sense, because that would so much be something

that happened in real life. That would be exactly

what people would do, because how do you operate?

in a world where Batman exists and certain things

will just be the norm. And I think that was the

only thing that kind of made me like, huh, what

is Killer Croc doing in the school? But whatever.

I think I think it's whatever. I just let it

go. Yeah, I don't know if that was a tie into

some other like another comic that was going

on at the time or something like that. Or, you

know, just it had like the Robin was dressed

like old school Robin, too. So I'm like, I don't

know if that was like, you know, we don't know

which Robin that is that the Dick Grayson. I'm

assuming it's Tim Drake because Gordon is. Tired

in this book. Yeah, I don't think it's the greats

and so yeah demons demons not well He's kind

of born yet, but not they may win be using batarangs.

They will be using a sword Whatever he can get

his freaking hands. I think it's like psychopath.

Yeah Yeah, but that's a good point. I feel like

if killer croc was showing up in your high school

it might Leave a little bit more lasting of an

impact Yeah, remember that weekend the killer

croc a giant mutant Crocodile was running rampant

through science lab. I think that'd be a bigger

deal. But yeah, it's okay So I was like a little

bit of a bridge too far, but as a loser Yeah,

was there anything else you wanted to bring up

regarding the the overall first volume? Again,

I dislike the feel I like Again, I just worry

cuz I stopped at five because you're saying maybe

we should keep on going I'm like, hmm. I wonder

if I read six the whole aspect of how they're

gonna do the crime Where is it gonna go from

here? I want to know I think maybe if they jump

cops as we're mentioning where now we now we're

not following Marcus We're following Renee and

maybe that leads us down a different path. I

think that might be That's again the people who've

probably read already read the whole thing, but

of course that's what they do I don't know if

that's what they do if they do do that then that

might keep it fresh and not like Make it a cliche

that these characters keep showing up But yeah,

I do really dig it if you're if you're a fan

of you know police procedurals and Batman I think

well it's hard because I know Batman fans that

just like the Outlandish aspects of it, but this

seems like it was a book made for Christopher

Nolan Where it was like I'm gonna bring it down

to where it's like gritty. What is the minimal

of? Outlandish we can do while still existing

in this world or you know, I which I dig I mean,

I'm I Mean, I love Christopher Nolan's Batman,

but I kind of like Tim Burton's Batman. So it's

kinda like, I can exist in both worlds, but I

know people who only like Tim Burton's Batman,

who do not like Christopher Nolan's Batman. So

maybe this book might not be for them, because

it's not crazy, stop Joker from blowing up the

Empire State building with a laughing gas bomb

or something like that. Something like that.

It's more like, you know, a cop, it's literally

a cop show in the guise of Batman. And the concept

I think they nail, at least in this first five

issues, I really think they nail it. Nice so

one other thing I like to do too is take your

reactionist and see like, okay Where could you

go next outside of just reading the next few

volumes? What might you enjoy that is in line

with this some from some of the similar creators

and thinking of Batman you're talking about just

like the different versions of Batman and how

people have their own ideas about him and actually

thought got me thinking of a current series going

on right now called Sean Murphy's white black

Batman white night and the idea behind it is

Like Joker tries to defeat Batman in a way by

turning good. Like it's a very simplistic way

of the concept. There's much more to it. But

I think it first is a gorgeous book. John Murphy

draws and writes it. But he combines a lot of

the elements from the animated series, the movies,

even from the tech to the vehicles. It's almost

like an amalgamation of all the best parts of

different types of Batman into one. It's still

going on right now. I think there are an issue

six or seven, and there's a couple more to go.

But I think you might really like that. It takes

Batman in a different... Route a little bit.

Some people might not like it's a different Batman

because it's like an alternate universe type

of thing So it's a little bit more vicious of

a Batman in a way, but I've been really liking

liking that No Not as vicious as as that Batman

He has some choices that certainly you see this

is not like your this is not your Christopher

Nolan Batman or or what have you but it's still

it's really good I would highly recommend that

I mentioned every breaker like being really great

at crime and he has a lot of great novel Something

that comes to mind is like right now, Killer

Be Killed, which is the idea behind it. It's

his current series that he's writing with Sean

Phillips, and they have done a lot together.

It's this guy who he tends to kill himself But

he fails and he finds out that the reason that

he may have not have actually killed himself

is because a Demon may have stopped it from happening,

but you find out maybe that demon isn't real

But the concept is if he doesn't kill someone

every month then he will be like he'll be killed

by this demon But you're questioning is like

is that actually real is he gone crazy? What

have you but it ends up just being again a really

great crime? The story reminds me a lot of Blue

Ruin, which I think you're a fan of. Oh, yeah,

big fan of Blue Ruin. Yeah, because what you

have is - That's another minimalistic, you know,

bare -bones, gritty film. So yeah. Because of

what the idea of like this guy who's way over

his head trying to - commit crime, but he has

no idea where to start or begin, so he just kind

of fumbles his way through it. He's not really

good at it, but he evolves from there. So that's

really anything from them would be a good recommendation.

They've done The Fade Out, like I mentioned previously,

which is a story that takes place during the

Red Scare era of Hollywood that follows some

writers. that were, you know, one writer was

blacklisted and another writer who like witnessed

a murder or he thinks he witnessed a murder and

goes down that route as well. So I think those

are really two really good starting points, but.

Can't really think of anything else that's in

the line of this regarding like cop drama within

a universe Which I think makes it unique in that

way, but there's powers by Bendis Which is similar

that they it's like exists in a universe It was

first in the image universe and it's expanded

from there, but that's I guess that would be

the other comparison It's not based on that TV

show. They got cancelled, right? It was the same

the TV show was based on that but the TV show

wasn't right I've never watched the TV show what

I heard I've never watched it either. I don't

think anybody I think they might have pulled

everything if it was on we did not see it was

on my PlayStation Network or something I think

it was I forget what I just know I'm an old guy

folks. I'm sorry. What the hell is I don't know

I just remember was on something that I'm like

I didn't even know that was a thing that existed

and I No wonder it doesn't exist anymore. You

mentioned Joker as a good guy. That kind of reminds

me of the the ongoing telltale series that's

going on right now we're for I guess it's for

every system where it follows Batman I think

that's pretty well for a video game where you

know you have all these multiple choices it's

for a Batman story pretty cool but it just shows

their version of the Joker his name is John Doe

and it's like his origins kind of in It's kind

of like Bruce Wayne met him while he was sent

to Arkham for some he was framed for something

sent to Arkham he meets this character named

John Doe who's obviously the Joker before he

became the Joker and it just shows how he's kind

of devolving into the choices you're making can

make him the Joker or it can make him kind of

a Different type of joker. They have vigilante

or villain on his face or whatever. So yeah,

it's if you like Batman too, that's also you

know, Batman writing is pretty and it's pretty

gritty and it has like Gritty versions of each

character like freezer and stuff like and Bane

and stuff like that I played a little bit of

the telltale like a walking dead game, but I've

never right. It's kind of the same It's in the

same vein, but it's all Batman characters and

it's like they they did their they did their

bet there homework because it's like Lucius Fox's

and Lucius Fox's daughter is in there. It's it's

in the bat suit that I have not played the game.

They put like the they've made like movie cuts

of certain chapters or whatnot where you can

just literally watch like a show and you follow

whatever directions that the person picks and

you if you want to watch the version where you're

a dickhead Batman, you can watch that one. You

can watch the way your hero Batman. We know it's

really I mean other than that the writing is

really good because Just felt like I wasn't a

really good Batman story maybe because I'm coming

off of recent live -action Batman stuff I did

not like so maybe I was like a guy in the desert

looking for any sign of water Yeah, yeah, luckily.

There's a lot out there now, you know, so there's

a I even Tom King who's writing Batman right

now is doing a really great job with it I really

like what he's doing which is kind of odd but

there is this he did a book last year was it

was just one issue of Elmer Fudd and Batman I

can only imagine. Yeah, and it's like in realistic

Elmer Fudd, which sounds awful, but it's the

go before you eat the NRA Maybe no, he's like

a he's like a private investigator It's it sounds

awful. I must I must see this now. It is really

it's really who I can't think of who draws it

Clay man, I believe it could be wrong, but it's

a gorgeous book But it's there's they go to the

porky has a bar called porkies, but he's like

a real -looking guy But it's like a real -looking

guy that looks like porky pig. It's it's a genius

book Sounds like Lobo when he was back in the

day when he was like hunting He was hired by

the Easter bunny to kill Santa Claus and like

everything was like a realistic version of these

characters Yeah, they did a lot of that last

year where they had they had a lot of Hannah

Barbera crossovers with dc characters they had

one with like martian man hunter and marvin the

martian and uh tasmanian devil and wonder woman

most of them were not very good but uh uh now

lee weeks is the person who who drew it sorry

okay who's great he's uh great he did the annual

it was earlier this year but It's a gorgeous

book. I would highly recommend that. I know it

sounds really dumb because it's like, oh, do

we really need a realistic Elmer Fudd? But it

works. It's funny. Does that description make

me have to see what this looks like? Yeah, it's

only one issue. It's only one issue. Curiosity

will kill this cat. I must know what a realistic

Elmer Fudd talking to Batman looks like. And

they keep his impediment, speech impediment.

So it gets a little redundant with reading, but

it's like Bizarro. you just have to get used

to it and then you stop noticing it. I hate,

I love Superman. Bizarro does not like Superman,

whatever the hell it is. Yeah. But if people

wanted to get in touch with you today, I know

you're on like every podcast ever, but what's

the best way to do that? Yeah, you can find me

on Twitter at trying to be DJB, our show's on

Twitter. But her handle is simple simple at simple

tweeters and want to hear us act like crazy people

on our TV or TV show But I wish podcast Oh my

god, I've got a TV show I would make so much

money. No You can find us. I just searched a

simple simplistic reviews on YouTube tune in

stitcher iTunes all good stuff. I gotta congratulate

you and are you All had your hundredth episode.

I think what a month or two ago by now. So, uh,

yeah about three We were we were we were working

on it because we have like five Sketches in there

and those took months to put together But I think

one of your cohorts, uh, steven c phillips that

took a long time It's a great episode. I listen

to it both on youtube because I love the the

different things you put in just and then just

Because and then just in my car. So it's it's

a really great listen. I would highly advise

Yeah, if you like silliness and involving movies,

it's fine. And your boy, Optimus Ola, does a

mean Brian Dennehy. I didn't know that was in

it. Dennehy came out of it. I was like, oh my

god, it's Brian Dennehy. He hides it well. He

hides it well. He hides Dennehy very well. Awesome.

Well, thanks again for joining me. Appreciate

that. Maybe, I guess I will probably have you

on again, of course. Hopefully. I hope I didn't

cut. Again, back when it's when it turns to the

comic kiosk and we're just like, do you like

it? Yep. All right. Good. Next is the Hell's

Kitchen version of the comic concierge. Yeah,

just a pack of cigarettes and a Jack Daniels.

As always, remember the comics are for everyone.

The key is finding the right one. Thanks for

listening and we'll see you next time.