80s Cartoon Villains Tournament Quarterfinals

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and welcome to GCRN wars episode 8 80s cartoon

villain tournament the quarterfinal round and

wow We have got a lot to get to ladies and gentlemen

first of all I am TFG and Mike one of your many

hosts and joining me is TV's Mr. Neil. Hello.

Hi there Kermit the Frog wannabe. Of course,

Steve Megatron. Hello! The other Kermit the Frog.

Okay, so we're gonna do things a little bit differently

tonight in the beginning of this episode because

Mike the Birdman Don from This Week in Geek .net

was supposed to be with us. Apparently his wife

getting him... Evil Dead tickets. Evil Dead tickets

some stupid horror movie that's coming out is

more important than 80s cartoons villains. Hey,

whatever It's a thing from his wife, you know,

that's that comes first but Mike did Did call

in and leave his predictions for? The round where

are we going from here? Steve? What are we doing?

We were revealing the quarterfinalists I've seen

your since Kevin's not here. It falls to me It

does it does uh... but eight kevin yes it did

brutally uh... so before we get into uh... dada's

response to the the next set of the bracket uh...

we must talk about the previous set of the bracket

yes and in doing so we have more of first monstar

which started great debates on the site uh...

Looking through the comments, everybody's arguing

different elements of it. Of course, some people

were agreeing with mine of, you know, Mammarra

being defeated by the shiny metal glow of Mondstar

and then other people were saying, oh no, but

he's nearly invincible and he overcame that problem

and the only way is to do something with the

ancients and I'm still... Okay, let me let me

clarify for you because I know you you haven't

watched a lot of thundercats and I just after

someone pointed out to me I'm like, oh, yeah,

that's right. That did happen in the beginning

part of the series Momra had the reflection problem.

There was a point where the ancient spirits of

evil took away his powers and Then he got them

back and he got improved powers, which no law

he no longer had the reflection weakness so I

forgot that that happened. It's been a very long

time since I watched all 130 episodes of the

Thundercats. But that was a really good discussion

to happen on geekcastradio .com with these comments,

and it was pretty awesome. Yes, I have to agree.

But sadly for this bracket, my prediction was

wrong, and Mumra won out with 55 to 17. It started

out real close and mine stars started winning

and then the mumra love came right in afterwards

Swept the floor with him. Oh But you know the

superior cartoon won out so So be it. Yes. So

yeah that that was the the first part of the

bracket The second part was big boss verse miles

mayhem This one it was kind of a toss -up off

and on throughout the the the fight I mean granted

most of us I think voted miles mayhem in the

last episode episode yeah This one the the only

counter that I could see on on the post was the

fact that big boss would play dirty and his henchmen

would get involved or He'd sit on him or something

vaguely around that Right, but the counterbalance

was that if it lasted longer than five minutes

in the battle, he'd have a heart attack Or his

oxygen machine. Yeah, or something like that.

Where's Captain Planet when you need him, but

um Sorry just fit into a another fat guy from

that show But uh, but yeah, so in this battle

Big boss lost to miles mayhem with 2244 Wow,

but I can't say I'm surprised cuz well miles

did work for Cobra and he had Yes, he finally

succumbed to his heart attack So getting into

the third battle of the bracket We have Megatron

versus Psykill. This was basically even with

our Cobra Commander battle with the last battle

on the other side of the bracket. This battle

was kind of a no -brainer. Honestly, as Neil

put it, Wheelie is about the only one that Psykill

could probably kill. I have to agree. There were

a few people kind of stirring the pot and saying,

oh, well, Cykill, blah, blah, blah. I'm voting

for him because all this Megatron is a joke.

Well, no, there was there was one person on Twitter

as a fan of ours doesn't interact with us a lot

on the website But he did on this post count

Marzo who is a huge matty collector comm apologist

He basically just said I'm so sick of you transformers

fans I'm just gonna vote go boss just because

of go bots rule and I'm thinking But I can understand

why he said that it's string yeah, it's funny

But this battle was 76 to 3 Wow There was no

contest he was sending sidekill to the smelting

pool See you just can't battle Megatron he's

a beast No, you can't and then getting into the

last battle of the bracket. We have the shredder

verse Tex mechs Tex hex, but yeah I'm calling

him Tex -Mex because... You won't glock with

that plate? Anyways, that magic is no use for

the Shredder. He's got all of his mutants and

he's got Krang and Dimension X and the Technodrone.

What does Tex -Tex got? Nothing. He's got a horse.

Yeah, that gallops. So suffice it to say this

battle was also fairly close at 69 to 6 Yes,

the the the tournament I actually had the art

made up for this bracket four days ago Because

it was still a staggering amount even then before

we had an additional 20 voters added in so Yeah,

it's it's just it's sad, but I can't say that

I'm surprised or disappointed with who made it

to the next round Yeah, the next round after

we hear from mr. Dodd is gonna be really interesting

I I think the three of us might all end up not

talking to each other after this episode because

holy crap we're gonna have a lot of debates and

and and discussions about what could happen with

the quarterfinals Yeah I'm fairly excited to

see what happens with this this particular bracket

so I will cut back over to Mike the Birdman Dodd's

thoughts on this next set of the bracket tournament

and we'll be back after a few voice clips. Hey

guys it's Mike the Birdman Dodd now due to some

unfortunate timing but a really cool wife I'm

not joining you guys tonight because my wife

got me preview tickets to see Evil Dead tonight.

Let's just say I owe the Geekcast Radio crew

guys a massive favor. It will be epic when I

choose to repay it. But anyway, so we're talking

cartoon villains tonight. And looking at the

quarterfinals so far, I've got some favorites.

When I look at Skeletor versus King's Archon,

I'm honestly going with Skeletor. I see the combination

of magic, and the fact that he has so many cool

villains to help him out. And, you know, he's

not a complete idiot. So, I'm kinda liking Skeletor's

odds. Plus, he looks fucking cool. Now, looking

at Vengar versus Cobra Commander... I gotta go

with Cobra Commander. You might be asking why.

Well, Cobra Commander does have a military background.

And considering he's able to command vast amounts

of troops and vast amounts of resources... I'd

say he's also suited. Plus the fact he's got

a terrible hand -to -hand combat. And if you

look at his history through the G .I. Joe comics,

he's also quite brutal as well. Now, I'm talking

the IDW and former Dreamwave stuff when I talk

about that. But still, I'm liking Cobra Commander

there. This is probably my favorite matchup of

the night. We're looking at Mumra versus Miles

Mayhem. I love Miles Mayhem. I think he's a cool

guy. like the Mac vehicles that he has access

to. That's pretty kick -ass. But Mumrah, the

evil villain of the Thundercats. Come on. Once

again, powerful magic. He's brutal. And I honestly

think magic will triumph against technology.

But then again, when you look at He -Man, because

that's technology versus magic too. But still,

I'm gonna give this one to Mumra versus Miles

Mayhem, because Mumra will do what is necessary,

whereas Miles Mayhem, I think he's eventually

gonna wuss out. And then this matchup, honestly,

this is no contest. Megatron versus Shredder.

Megatron will brutalize the masked menace here,

simply because, well, once again, he leads the

Decepticon forces. He's got that huge fusion

cannon on his arm. He's not stupid. Plus, he

did kill Optimus Prime, whereas Shredder doesn't

really have a victory to really call his own.

Then again, which incarnation of the Shredder

are we talking about here? But I'm going to give

it to Megatron, because once again, he's killed

Optimus Prime. He led the Decepticon forces from

nothing to be the dominant force in the galaxy,

conquering Cybertron and killing a number of

Autobots. unfortunately Megatron does have his

his pride which does occasionally cause him to

fail in his many schemes but his brutality and

tactical ability is I think what will eventually

see him through to the end of this match so anyway

guys like I said I'm really sorry that I missed

tonight I will be on another one of these shows

I assure you I will make sure I do not have tickets

to anything else coming out this month because

Evil Dead and Jurassic Park so I think So anyway

guys, this is Mike the Birdman Dodd for ThisWeekendGeek

.net saying live free or die hard and may the

best bad guy win. First battle is who, Steve?

The first battle is Skeletor against King Zarkon.

This is going to be interesting. Yeah, this this

entire round is going to be interesting to see

who gets to the semifinals next week. Yeah, I

am stoked to see what happens after this battle.

I do not know where this is going to go in the

voting. I'm very, very antsy to see what happens,

especially with a few of the rounds. A few of

them are going to be no -brainers, but a few

of them I'll be quite surprised if they are beat.

This one is Skeletor against King Zarkon, and

for me, out of the two, if you're going on sheer

fear factor of style, or magic ability or henchmen,

I'd have to give it to Skeletor. And he's got

much more of a menacing name to him. Well, I

think the thing with the menacing name with Voltron

was Planet Doom. You know, it was more so on

the planet than it was in the characters. And

Zarkon looks like a cross between a bat and a

fish. he's essentially a human version of astro

trains oh wait that's right he is jack angel

yeah yeah neil thoughts on skeletor versus zarkon

well i i was just going to compare their their

resumes here and uh skeletor for a guy who comes

from a series called masters of the universe

he he's barely failing to capture a planet whereas

zarkon You know he's his scope is larger. He's

going he's at least going for a solar system

I think and so and you know zarkon his his plans

seem to get get farther along in development

whereas Skeletor pretty much fails on a regular

basis. I can't think of a single time He won

except for you know, the one or two times that

he got one over on on hordak Um, i'm gonna have

to go with zarkon on this. I I don't see how

skeletor really stands a chance Unless he uses

his magic, but you know that doesn't never seem

to help them so The only way the only way he

could win I think Kind of now that I'm listening

to your argument. I have to agree The only way

he could win is as he trapped him in another

dimension Or trapped him somewhere else like

he did to hard act yeah And you gotta think,

and this, and I know He -Man, oh my god, we're

gonna so incur the wrath of He -Man fans if we

all beg Zarkon because, no, because it's like,

it's just, because the way I've looked at this

entire thing, I've looked at it individual. If

you put, like, if you create an 80s villains

version of Street Fighter, or Marvel versus Capcom,

whatever. If you create a fighting game with

these characters, that's the way I viewed this,

is Skeletor versus Zarkon individually in a battlefield

who wins, without using help or whatever. Granted,

they're evil, I know that they would cheat and

bring in their warriors, but if you look at them

one -on -one, or if you look at them with their

armies, yes, Zarkon has an army of what color

are those? troopers What are they like dark teal

blue? I don't I don't know the troopers that

like in the beginning of Voltron that are guards

in the prison and stuff You know, I'm sure do

you remember I'm talking about Neil vaguely.

Yeah It's basically Zarkon's version of the foot

clan basically, okay He's got that army and he's

got which Hagar and he's got her creating row

beasts His ultimate downfall in any of his plans

is his son's googly eyes wanting to get his dick

in the pants of Elora That's Zarkon's ultimate

downfall is his son because his son always ends

up fucking stuff up with Skeletor His evil warriors.

It's like a it's worse than a class of first

graders sometimes it really is because you've

got all these evil warriors and granted don't

get me wrong I like Skeletor I like the evil

warriors but I I honestly oh man I'm gonna have

to make a choice here and it's in a one -on -one

battle we have to decide what wins out Skeletor

shooting a magic blast out of his havoc staff

or Zarkon using a laser pistol Rito shot first

I was gonna say it's turning into Han versus

Luffy. I gotta go with the Skeletor because I

think Skeletor is under like like I said Zarkon

If any of his people are around him, they always

end up screwing stuff up Skeletor is just underhanded

enough That he would find some way to get around

Zarkon or he would find something that Imprisons

Zarkon or something so I gotta give it to Skeletor

Okay, so we have one for Skeletor two for Zarda

or King Zarkon yes Okay, then yes, so moving

on to the next bracket We have venger against

Cobra commander let's hear what the combatants

have to say this is the end for all of you surrender

to the new order of cobra starting at noon tomorrow

or suffer my wrath devastation ruin chaos so

we've heard what the combatants have to say and

as steve said before the break The Dark Lord

of Dragons and Dungeons versus an Agent of Mask.

That was just horrible. I know. It was meant

to be that way. But yeah, no, Cobra Commander

versus Venger. I don't know. If you look at it

in the way of the characters and if they ever

had an... Like if somehow Venger ever crossed

over into G .I. Joe, you essentially have Optimus

Prime versus Stars, well, technically Starscream,

but you would have Peter Cullen versus Creslata

just by the voices alone. As far as abilities,

Venger to me is scarier than Cobra Commander,

but I think Cobra Commander would win out. Because

of the simple fact that well, he's besides the

fact that he's just fucking Cobra commander,

but he is a badass he will cheat and use all

kinds of You know Cobra troopers and everything

else. So I don't know Neil. What are your thoughts

on on this one? Well about your thought about

Bender crossing over to GI Joe, you know Cobra

commander has had plots involving roller coasters

in the past. So it could conceivably happen Oh,

God. But I'm just looking at it as well. First,

I'm going to go one on one. And then as as villains

would go, if they were to cheat one on one, I'd

have to give it to Venger just because Venger

is a badass and he's got magic and all this power

on his side. First, Cobra Commander is just some

guy with a gun and he can barely shoot anything

to begin with. But, you know, even even if I

were to account for the fact that Cobra Commander

has has troops on his side, you know, Cobra Commander

has the resources he could. you know, enlist

Tiamat if he wanted, but he's not that clever.

He'd probably use the Dreadnoughts, and of course

what would happen is the Dreadnoughts would go

up to Venger and be like, hello, hello, hello,

and then Venger would be like, adios, adios,

adios, and that would be the end of Cobra's team,

and that would be the end of Cobra Commander.

So I'm going to say this, the only reason Cobra

Commander is here is because Serpentor is not.

And I'm gonna have to give a avenger. This I

command. Cobra Commander, you're out of here.

Steve, rebuttal? Okay. The thing about Serpentor

is he never did his own dirty work. Everybody

just cowered before him because they created

him. That's true. And when Cobra Commander did

become a man again, he turned Serpentor into

his frog bitch. We're back to the frogs. He used

Nagahide's pet. So Serpentor, like I said, is

kind of useless. Corporal Commander Granad did

have some crappy plots, as have all the 80s villains.

However, he has technology on his side. They

have everything they've stolen from the Joes,

from the government. things that they may have

come up with. I thought patrol. Yeah. Or, you

know, they have various kinds of toxic characters

later on. I mean, they in the 80s, they have,

you know, all these mystical things that sometimes

show up. I mean, I think it's kind of a hard

one to push because you have magic against technology.

Right. But you have an entire army. Granted,

they may not be able to shoot a damn thing. I

mean, just get for real. You have like 12 GI

Joes going against like a million Cobra and somehow

the GI Joes beat them. I mean, that's just every

episode. But well, you had Sergeant Slaughter

and his team of rawhides. You took out the pterodrome

by themselves. So you have six GI Joes that go

against all thousands of Cobra. And the Cobra

home base So You still have one against many

and which is as good as one It's a very hard

one to fight but just for the fact that I'd like

Cobra commander better I voted for Cobra commander

because I don't think I think it'd be a stalemate

battle, honestly You'd have technology and magic

and you'd have the equivalent of one person against

one person so it would just cancel each other

out. Armies don't count in this category. They

just don't. Alright, so we've got two for Cobra

Commander and one for Venger. So, getting into

the third bracket, we have Mumrah and Miles Mayhem.

Let's hear from the combatants. Ancient spirits

are evil! Transform this decayed form to Mumra!

So we've heard from the combatants, and I'm gonna

take this one first. Mumra versus Miles Mayhem.

All's Mumra's gotta do is get him into his little

lair there, have him stand in front of the cauldron,

and have the little lightning electrodes things

just shock the hell out of Miles Mayhem. Like...

Mumra didn't even have to transform from his

decayed form at all, honestly. I'm gonna take

this one next. Go ahead. I'm gonna have to go

with Mumra. He's got the freakish, you know,

cloaked, scary -looking dude nature. You have

a fat military guy that the most action he sees

is on a television screen. Mumra has mystical

powers and... Mean it's kind of a repeat of the

other side only this magic entity is Far superior

on this side and the military's superior as on

the other side. So it's kind of This was a no

-brainer. Miles mayhem is gonna lose Yeah All

mummer I would have to do is all mummer I would

have to do is transform into his other form and

it would scare the pants off him and he'd run

Yeah, I would just pretty much copy and paste

my last argument here except more so just because

Mumrah is that much more badass than Miles Mayhem.

And unlike Cobra Commander, I don't think Miles

Mayhem could possibly throw a saving throw. So

Mumrah all the way. Even if Miles Mayhem got

in a couple of good shots if he was in Switchblade

or something like that, but still Again the whole

magic versus technology in this instance magic

is going to win out because Mumrah can do anything

I mean hell Mumrah could transform his dog into

a poodle the damn thing it bite miles his leg

off The Napa guy knows not to judge a man by

his car's multicolor paint job or absence of

modern gadgetry. Who cares if it's technically

old enough to vote and the windows are powered

by the strength of your left arm? Your monthly

payment is zero, and it'll stay that way. Because

with over 500 ,000 parts and a little Napa know

-how, you can keep anything on the road. She

may not be pretty, but she's all yours. That's

Napa know -how. You know, it's just... Mumra

all the way. Well, that was a short discussion.

These battles are pretty one -sided at this point.

Who's next on the bracket, Steve? Last up on

the bracket is Megatron against the Shredder.

Let's hear what the combatants have to say. Wait!

i still function what the devil i'll crush you

with my bare hands we've heard from the combatants

and once again i'm going to take this one because

i just thought of something if this was the battle

that it was going to come down to megatron versus

the shredder neil you've you've watched g1 to

the point where it's basically melded into your

brain right yeah i have too Have you seen the

size of the Transformers compared to the humans?

Yes. Let's think about that on a one -on -one

battle. Technically Megatron would be three stories

higher than Shredder. All's he'd have to do is

just stick his foot down. Crunch. Steve? Not

only that, but Megatron pulled an entire planet.

Into the atmosphere Megatron has far superior

technology Even trumping dimension X Plus he

has the resources of Cybertron and shockwave

and pretty much every Decepticon That could wipe

out Anything the shredder could dish at him Megatron

is more menacing. He's got the raspier voice

He has a fusion cannon Which is like letting

off a giant nuke Yeah, there's just no contest

here Megatron all the way The only way the shredder

would ever beat Megatron now Mike don had asked

us it depends on which version of sure you're

talking about we are because this is the eighties

villains turn it we're specifically talking about

the nineteen eighty seven shredder we're not

talking about the more badass two thousand three

version we're not talking about the current version

in the nick turtle series we're talking about

the old eighty seven shredder only what uh...

uncle phil uh... yeah people bill Yeah. The only

way Uncle Phil could win is if he got in the

Technodrome and fired everything the Technodrome

had at Megatron. That's the only way. If they're

going one -on -one, as I already said, Megatron's

three stories high compared to Shredder's height.

It wouldn't even be a contest at all. Nope. I

agree. Well, plus Megaman Megaman Megaman Megatron

is so is so overpowered. I mean aside from his

fusion cannon He's got he's got that other barrel

on his back, which I've seen him use once so

that does do something He's also got an energy

morning star he's he's Many times the size of

shredder shredder has ginsu knives welded to

his costume he could go ting -ting -ting on and

Megatron's foot all he likes, but eventually

he's just going to be a street pizza. So in hardware

form, making Gold Slaw? I mean, the only conceivable

way, and this is counting, this is only if we

count the first movie, which I know doesn't count,

is if Megatron were to stomp on him. You know,

Shredder has survived a garbage compactor. Right.

That's the only thing I can think of, and even

that I'm not going to count. So Megatron, no

contest. Alright so I think we're gonna go to

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Very, very awesome. This is going to be very

interesting to see how this round's voting is

going to go because, like you said Steve, like

a couple of the battles I can kind of predict

even though I'm not going to here, but I honestly

don't know what the outcome is going to be between

Skeletor and Zarkon. Oh, I don't know on some

of these either. They're just mind boggling.

Yeah. And it's going to be very interesting to

see what happens when we get to the semifinals

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Tre - oh wait, did I step - something in my shoe?

Scrape. He stepped in shredder poo There was

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