GCRN WarZ
Video Game Icons Tournament Semifinal Matchups

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About this Episode
Dr. Wily says we will not take over the world
unless we are listening to Geekcast Radio Network.
Maybe you should play something else. Welcome
to GCR and Wars. This is episode 19. This is
our video game character tournament. We will
be revealing the quarterfinal winners as well
as going through the semifinal matchups. I am,
of course, one of your hosts. If you want to
join me, it's Steve Megatron. Hello. Hello. Mr.
Solomac, hello. It's never going to catch on.
Drop it, dude. No, it'll catch on. I'll make
it catch on. Come on, say something. Oh, I didn't
know who you were talking to. Yeah, you. Yeah,
I'm from the Solos here. And of course, TV's
Mr. Neal. That's what Dig Dug did last round.
Oh. Low blow. Too soon. No, it's never too soon
for stuff like that. So, yes, what would you
like to say before we get this going, Kev? Well,
last week we revealed the Elite Eight, if you'd
like to call them that, the final eight competitors.
And we left it up to you guys to do some voting
and to select who would win in those fights to
bring us to our final four, our semi -final matchups.
And that's what it's all about today, figuring
out who those people are. And then it's going
to get real tough, I think. Like we've said,
broken record time, I guess, but every round
it gets harder and harder to have a clear -cut
winner. Back in the first round, we had some
shutouts, we had some blowouts. I think that
gets tougher as we go through, and it's going
to get real interesting to see what happens from
here. I think the quarterfinals, there's definitely
some favorites going. I'm very intrigued to see
who the winner of one of the matchups in particular
is going to be. And that's why we're here, so
everybody can hear those results. And I think
we're going to flip the script a little bit today.
Instead of starting in the upper left -hand corner
like we have been of the bracket if you've been
following along, we're actually going to start
in the lower right -hand corner of the bracket,
which our first quarterfinal matchup from last
week saw Sonic going up against Pac -Man. Steve,
how did that one turn out with the voters? I
will say for... All of the votes today, none
of them were blowouts. That's what makes it interesting
as we start going forward, and I would guess
in the semifinals and in the finals it's going
to be some close votes. I have a feeling. Sonic
ran circles around the chomper, 26 -3. So that
is probably as close as we can get to a blowout
for this round. So 26 -3. Mike, any surprise
that Sonic dominates this one? No. Because Sonic
is way faster than Pac -Man. Even when Pac -Man
has his little magic pellet. Well, he is the
fastest thing alive. I don't know. Flash would
give him a run for his money. Different entirely.
Doesn't matter. Like we said last week, though,
it's going to be hard for Pac -Man, who's used
to chasing ghosts, to catch... the speedy Sonic,
so possibly not a surprise there. So our first
entrance into the final four and into the semifinal
matchups will be Sonic the Hedgehog. He survives
to fight against the winner of our other quarterfinal
matchup on that side of the bracket, which saw
Spyro the Dragon, Mike's dark horse, favorite
since the beginning, going against Ratchet and
Clank. Steve, how did that one turn out? Let
me just start this off by saying it gives me
great pleasure to announce what happened. Screw
you. Spyro got double teamed. Or tag teamed,
whichever. He got beat 7 -22. Oh, a little closer
than the Sonic Pac -Man matchup. Not really.
22 -7, that's not exactly close. I said it's
closer. All right, so Ratchet and Clank dominated
Spyro. At this point, Ratchet and Clank are going
to take this whole damn thing. Like we said,
Spyro probably didn't deserve to be this far,
so it's no surprise that Ratchet and Clank dominated
him. Right, Mike? The opinions of Solo Mac are
not reflected in the Geekcast Radio Network.
The Dragon Power. The effects of Michael Blanchard
calling someone Solo Mac makes his entire conversation
irrelevant. No, it doesn't. Yeah, the Dragon
Power could only, the Dragon fans could only
vault Spyro so far into this tournament, but
he finally met his match against Ratchet and
Clank. So that means on that side of the bracket,
we are left with a matchup between Ratchet and
Clank and Sonic the Hedgehog. I think the LeChoy
Dragon would have stood a better chance than
Spyro. I think Mushu would have been a better
choice than Spyro. Neil, what do you think as
far as looking at that matchup now between Sonic
and Ratchet and Clank? Obviously, Ratchet and
Clank have the firepower, the duo, the tag team,
as everyone's been saying. Sonic has the speed
and the popularity, probably. How does that one
go about when we see them facing off finally
ahead, Ed? Well, I keep rooting for the gun,
but I think Sonic's got a little bit of speed
on them, so it's going to be hard to hit them,
and I think Sonic might take this one. Mike,
how do you feel this one going down? I'm hoping
Sonic just creams the two of them, just runs
them over like a giant railroad, you know, just
like a giant train, because I do not want them
to win at this point. Okay, besides your biasness
of feeling that it's unfair that they're here,
you're actually supposed to strategically...
It is actually unfair that they're here now because
there are no more other duos. They fair and square
beat everyone so far. So if you're strategically
looking at the way they would have to beat Sonic...
They cannot beat Sonic. Why? He is too fast.
They cannot beat him. There's two of them. Doesn't
matter. He's still too fast. All right, so we
know Mike's not going to look at this in any
strategic way. He's just going to say Sonic no
matter what. So, Steve, regardless of who you
think is going to win, how do they go about winning
this one? Well, yeah, before I get into actually
who I think will win, because I think it's going
to be kind of close here because you do have
two against one. However, Sonic does have experience
fighting against armies of Robotnik droids. Exactly.
And, uh, basically having to, you know, I mean,
this is essentially fighting like Robotnik and
one of his lackeys that are robotic. So, um,
in, in that essence, I could see that coming,
you know, him maybe getting some, uh, some rings
or, or going supersonic on them and kind of thrashing
them. However, I could see technology being used
against Sonic because even in the show that had
been one of his weaknesses is occasionally he
would get targeted with some kind of technology
and it would take him down temporarily. I can
see that too. And I don't know, obviously Sonic
is the faster of the competitors here. I don't
know if having two people offsets that speed
to a point where maybe you could strategically,
if you're Ratchet and Clank, set up the two of
them to negate some of that speed possibly. They
could trap him. Yeah, or even have, you know,
kind of chasing him into where the other person
might be. They probably have the better arsenal
and firepower Ratchet and Clank do, and Sonic's
got the speed, so it's firepower and teamwork
against straight speed and the ability to kind
of be hard to beat as far as Sonic is. You have
to knock him, get his rings out, like we've mentioned
multiple times, and eventually hit him with no
rings, that type of thing. But it might be an
interesting matchup. I guess if you had to say
one of these two, who's the underdog in this
matchup, Neil? Who's got the odds stacked against
them more? If you had to pick a favorite and
an underdog, regardless of how you feel it's
going to go out, who do you think has the harder
battle to actually win this vote? It's kind of
like an apple and orange situation. I suppose
Sonic, but it's really speed versus weaponry.
Yeah, Sonic doesn't really have a huge arsenal.
He just has the Spin Dash. But then again, as
I said in an earlier episode, he's basically
immortal as long as he has rings. It's definitely
one that's not as... You know, we've had certain
things where it's like one person's strength
easily plays to another person's weakness, or
as far as the matchup, it makes it seem like
it should go one way or the other. This one's
kind of harder to tell. You know, you've got
speed and you've got firepower. That doesn't
necessarily mean one has a clear advantage. That's
true. And I assume that Ratchet and Clank are
going to be more competent than your average
badnik. That's true. Yeah, he's going against
someone who's probably a little bit smarter than
he's used to going against. Steve, if we look
at the path that they've come this far, Ratchet
and Clank took out ToeJam and Earl. Then they
beat up on Jak and Daxter and finally headed
off and beat up the dragon Spyro. So that was
Ratchet and Clank's path. Rocks the dragon. Jak
and Daxter and Spyro. If we're looking at Sonic,
he spun circles around Gex, beat up Earthworm
Jim, and then took on Pac -Man. Does that mean
Sonic comes in a little better shape as far as
not having been through maybe as tough of battles?
Or how do you see the path to the semifinals
affecting either one of them? I see, I mean,
they both have had their portion of decently
heavy hitters, some more than others in certain
battles, but they've also had their more or less
losers in their brackets, their edge of the bracket
anyway. I think it's going to be a real tough
call. I mean, on the one hand, Sonic has had
Gex. I mean, yeah, that's okay. That's kind of
his loser over there. Earthworm Jim, I'd say,
is kind of a little bit difficult for him. And
then you get to Pac -Man, and obviously Pac -Man
didn't stand a chance. Then you go over to the
other side, and you have Ratchet and Clank, and
they've had to fight Toe Jim and Earl, which
is a nobody. Jack and Daxter, which could potentially
have beaten them. And then you get to Spyro,
and it was pretty much a blowout. I could see
the argument being made that Ratchet and Clank
could be hobbling into the semifinals, especially
after that Jack and Daxter matchup, and then
kind of just being able to withstand the firepower
from Spyro, maybe coming in a little bit more
worse for wear, whereas Sonic basically... Should
come in here unscathed. And he kind of got a
warm -up of this type of matchup when he fought
Earthworm Jim. Because, again, that's firepower
versus speed in a way. Obviously, firepower in
a different form coming from Earthworm Jim compared
to Ratchet and Clank, but maybe a little tune
-up matchup that he had. So, yeah, it's kind
of hard to say. Mike, what's your official vote
for this one? Sonic. Neil? I'm going to go with
Sonic. Steve? I'm going to go with Sonic. All
right. I personally would like Sonic to win,
but I'm going to be the oddball and say Ratchet
and Clank use the teamwork to somehow withstand
Sonic's speed, get him cornered where he can't
have any rings, and then it's just a shootout,
and eventually they hit him before he can get
a hold of a ring. But I'd like to see Sonic go
through to it. It'd be interesting. If we shift
our attention to the other side of the bracket,
let's start in the bottom left quadrant there
where we had... The two men going against each
other, Mega Man and Bomberman. Steve, how did
the voting turn out for Mega Man versus Bomberman?
Well, the superior model won out. Mega Man managed
to utilize all of his powers and beat Bomberman
with 24 to 4. 24 to 4. Commanding... Victory
from Mega Man, knocking out the dark horse on
this side of the bracket, Bomberman, who was
trying to make his way through. He had had some
upset wins against Kirby, etc., but Mega Man
proves too much for Bomberman, which means that
he will be facing off against the winner between
our last matchup from the quarterfinals. And
I kind of saved it for last on purpose because,
honestly, I could have somewhat predicted all
those other three. This one, I really have no
idea how the people would have voted. I think
it should be close, but we'll see. I really have
no idea who's taking this one, but we had Yoshi
versus Link in the last quarterfinal matchup.
Steve, Link or Yoshi? Before I answer this, I
will say I was right on who was going to get
to the semifinals. Excellent. It was Link. 22
-9. 22 -9 for Link. Taking out Yoshi, who a lot
of people probably were riding the wave of him
taking out Mario and thinking he was going to
hop his way into the semifinals. But we have
Link instead, which sets up an epic matchup between
Link and Mega Man. Mike, what's your first reaction
when you hear that? Well, first of all, with
Mega Man and Bomberman, Mega Man went ahead and
made a mega move in that battle, didn't he? With
Link versus... I did that just for you, Neil.
With Mega Man versus Link, that's going to be
an interesting battle, because you have technology
versus magic. In a way. Well, for the most part,
Link's weapons are mystical. I mean, yes, sure,
the sword is medieval and so is the shield, but...
a magic boomerang and magic arrows. It's definitely
a slightly different matchup than we had on the
other side, where it's strict speed against basic
firepower. This one is a little bit... These
two, mano a mano, are an interesting fight. Link
does have his boomerangs and his things that
he can do from a long distance. If he closes
it in to close combat, obviously he has the shield
and sword. Mega Man has the same things that
have been helping him this far through, including
bombs now. Which Link has. Yep, so they both
have bombs. Mike, I didn't mean to interrupt
you, though, but what's your first reaction?
How do you see this one going? Who do you want
to win? I think this is going to be, I don't
know, I'm not going to reveal who I think will
win at this point, but I think that this might
be the closest as far as numbers go. Like, I'm
betting this is going to be a one or two vote.
win for either one of them. I thought it would
be a one or two vote between Link and Yoshi and
it did not turn out well. No, because it's friggin'
Yoshi. He beat Mario. Yes, he beat Mario, but
most people don't care for Yoshi. When you look
at the Zelda fans and you look at the Yoshi fans,
the Zelda fans are in the millions, the Yoshi
fans are in the hundreds. Well, it's surprising
because Mario's actually number one over all
of them and look where he ended up. This has
definitely not turned out to be strictly a popularity
contest. I mean, you could say that the ones
that are still around are popular characters,
but some of the most popular characters we've
had have gone to the wayside. I don't know who
I'm going to vote for on this one at this point.
I'm going to have to wait until after the episode
goes up, because... I just don't know. Between
Link and Mega Man, it's going to be a really,
really close battle. It'll be a fun one to watch.
And I really enjoy both characters. So, like,
if it had been Bomberman versus Link, not that
that would ever happen, but that would have been
easy for me. Link's going to kill him, you know.
But I'm just not sure. Do the same thing we did
last on the other side of the bracket, looking
at their past a little bit. Link obviously had
a pretty tough first round match, probably the
toughest first round match out of anybody going
against Little Mac. Not really. His second round
match was tougher. No, I mean from a physical
standpoint, tough to go against Little Mac, who's
a fighter, compared to some of the easy contests
that some other people got to go against. Then
he goes up against his love interest, Zelda,
has to slay his love interest, and then go against
Yoshi, who, even though he's a fun -loving character,
Has a lot going for him. Beat Toad and beat Mario,
so that was Link's path. Mega Man took out Beautiful
Joe, took out the mighty Donkey Kong, and then
obviously took out Bomberman. Steve, do you feel
like their paths play any part of this, or what's
your first reaction when you heard or when you
saw the votes for Link and Mega Man? That's a
crazy matchup. This one, I definitely see this
being the closest out of all of them. Man. Who
has an advantage here? Yeah, it's going to be
tough because you look at it, Mega Man has beautiful
Joe's powers. He has Donkey Kong's powers. He
has Bomberman's powers, plus his own. So at close
combat, he has some of... You could almost argue
some of Beautiful Joe, and then you have some
of Donkey Kong's ground pound or the gigantic
hands to bash him or grab his sword or shield
or smack a bomb back at him. So, I mean, there's
that. And then going on the flip side, you have
Link. He could simply flip over the blast. He
could... hit his boomerang, and distract Mega
Man and get him hit from behind, he could block
any of the blasts with his shield, and then he
could also cut him apart with his sword. So,
I mean, there's a lot going in both their directions
for this, and yeah, they both had some tough
battles, so they could be far worse for the wearer
here, but I think this one's going to be really
neck and neck. Definitely going to be interesting.
Like you said, Mega Man has all the powers that
you just outlined so well. And then Link also
has a treasure chest of weapons that he takes
with him. He can flip out the boomerang, the
shield, the sword, all the different potions
he has. If he has a bunch of heart potions or
whatever, life potions, he can just rejuvenate
himself on the spot. But Mega Man can do the
same thing. Yeah. Mega Man has Eddie in the energy
tanks. Neil, we haven't heard from you. What's
your first reaction to this one? How do you see
it going? That's a tough one. I'm trying... Does
Mega Man have... all of his powers, or does he
just have the three from beating the three contestants?
This tournament. Yeah, if you picture him, he
has the same thing that he would start any game
out with, plus beautiful Joe Donkey Kong and
Bomberman's powers. Okay. So he doesn't have
the metal blade, because if he had the metal
blade, it would be over. Let's see. It's still
pretty tough to say. He can throw barrels, he
can throw bombs. You can overwhelm Link. Anyone
who's played The Legend of Zelda, if he gets
surrounded, you can get creamed pretty quickly.
All he has to do is get behind Link, and that's
a problem for Link. That negates the shield if
you go to the side or behind him. Mega Man is
pretty tough. Like you guys said, while Link
has the potions, Mega Man has the energy tanks,
and he's got quite a bit of them. So it's going
to be pretty close. But I'm kind of edging toward
Mega Man just because projectile weapons. I know
Link has those too, but the sword doesn't quite
work the way it did in the first game anymore.
Yeah. I'm going to go with the gun again and
say that Mega Man has this. I guess another way
you could look at it, and I don't necessarily
think this is how people should vote, they should
vote based on those individual matchups, Mega
Man versus Link, who they think is going to win,
and Sonic versus Ratchet and Clank, who they
think is going to win. Mike, if you're projecting
a finals matchup, I don't think we can come up
with a bad finals matchup no matter what happens,
because if you look at it, we either have Link
versus Ratchet and Clank, or Link versus Sonic.
Mega Man vs. Sonic or Mega Man vs. Ratchet &
Clank? Which of those do you most want to...
I mean, all four would be awesome finals. But
what do you most want to see in the finals? Mega
Man vs. Sonic because my prediction of it being
a Nintendo vs. Sega thing the whole time will
come true. It doesn't really matter because whoever
wins on either side... As long as it isn't Ratchet
and Clank, it's going to be Nintendo versus Sega.
It was always going to be one company versus
another company. There was no way around that.
All the Nintendo characters are on one side.
Yeah. So it didn't matter who was going to win.
You were going to get that wish no matter what.
Neil, does one of those finals matchup intrigue
you more? I really don't have an opinion one
way or another on the final match, so I'm just
kind of going to sit back and see. Sit back and
watch the fireworks? Yeah. One thing, I let you
get away with it last time, Mike, but you keep
calling Mega Man a Nintendo character. He's Capcom,
but he's on the Nintendo system. He started on
NES. He started there, but he converted to SNES
and then PlayStation. He's since jumped the boat.
He's been on just about every platform you can
possibly be on. So is Sonic, too, for that matter.
You don't hear Mega Man necessarily and think
Nintendo character. Oh, I do. That's where he
started. I don't. It's not like Mario, Yoshi,
Zelda, Link. It's not like any of them. Donkey
Kong, they're strictly Nintendo. That's like
saying Street Fighter 2 is Nintendo and it's
Street Fighter's PlayStation all day long. Steve,
a certain... finale matchup that you would most
want to see or which one do you think would prove
the best matchup? I would like to see Ratchet
and Clank versus Mega Man because it would be
kind of robot and technology against each other.
Because it would just be kind of interesting
to see it go that way. However, I have a feeling
it's going to go the Mega Man Sonic route. At
this point, what is very clear is that with these
four and the popularity of all of them, Link,
Mega Man, Sonic, and Ratchet and Clank. I don't
think it's very easy at this point to predict
a winner. I think we can all predict a winner.
We can all have our favorite or who we think,
but any one of these four could come away with
this thing at this point. I mean, there's a ton
of Zelda fans out there that would vote Link
no matter what. You know, Sonic fans are crazy.
You got Ratchet and Clank with the team -up aspect
of it, and then, you know, a lot of people like
Mega Man, too. It's hard to predict who's going
to come out with this one overall. But, I mean,
I guess we've got to get through the semifinals
first. What do you think of what our matchups
are here, Mike? Kind of final thoughts on the
two matchups we're seeing going forward, Link
versus Mega Man, Sonic versus Ratchet and Clank.
It's going to be interesting to see how the votes
come down and to see what people actually are
thinking as far as who they would want to see
win. Yeah. And out of the votes that we had for
the quarterfinals, Steve, what were the, you
said, like, 23 -4? What were the total votes
per matchup? Between 25 and 30 votes for each
matchup? Roughly. It's going to take probably
at least 16 votes. At least 16 or more votes
to get a winner on either side if we're looking
at about 30 votes total. I don't know. I can
see this one being real close. I could see a
16 -15. I could see an 18 -14 or something like
that. It's going to be tough to tell. Yep. All
right, anybody else? Last thoughts before we
let the people vote? I will say that I usually
am pretty good about predicting these. However,
well, I mean, I've been pretty damn close on
most of them, even in the original tournament.
However, that being said, this tournament when...
uh mario got booted second round that threw my
entire process off yeah mario and kirby went
out i i kind of lost some points there um because
that whole side of the bracket got totally screwed
um when those two left um because i i mean either
way i still would have had megaman and link battling
them right uh On that side. And then on the other
side, I still had Ratchet and Clank and Sonic.
One of the breakdowns I had was it was going
to be Sonic versus Mega Man, or not Mega Man,
Mario. Mario versus Sonic. Yes. At the Olympics.
Yes. But this is what we're left with, so it's
going to be up to the people to pick who's going
to win. Who wins in these fights, not just who's
favorite character, who's the more popular character.
Who would actually have the advantage? I think
it's some real tough scenarios that people would
have to paint for us. If you want, go to Geekcast
Radio and go to the webpage and give us your
scenario. Try to convince people to vote one
way or the other. Tell us why Link would beat
Mega Man or why Sonic would beat Ratchet and
Clank or vice versa. Play out the scenario and
maybe it'll influence some more people's votes.
Do it. Do it now. And otherwise we're going to
have to wait and see who comes out on top and
who is going to actually face off against each
other in the finale. Yep. Mike, anything else
they need to know about when and where to vote?
Voting starts Wednesday, Christmas Eve. It will
end Tuesday, December 30th, 9 p .m. Eastern Standard
Time. uh listen to the podcast then go vote and
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