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gonna tackle an interesting and polarizing geek

argument specifically in the video game realm,

which is ultimately better PlayStation or Xbox?

so this is the the tip off to a bunch of video

game coverage that we'll be doing here in the

coming months and year. So just before we get

to the actual categories that we have broken

down, because we're going to go over 15 categories.

And for those of you that don't know, On GCR

and wars, we go category by category. We kind

of give our thoughts, our ideas, and what would

be better. And then we each cast a vote as to

which side ultimately wins. And then by the end,

we'll tally up the votes in the 15 categories

and crown an actual winner. This is not one of

the actual categories. But for example, we might

say. Who has the better name who has the better

logo? You know, those are things we've used in

the past But we have some video game specific

ones looking at PlayStation and Xbox Birdman

before we start just initial thoughts that comparing

these two these two companies Well, it all comes

down to brand marketing for me because I've got

a background in public relations and I always

look at which company has worked with the public

the most and Out of the gate, I would say Xbox

might be the better company, but I don't know

if that holds up necessarily on the software

end, but maybe on legacy. It's hard to argue

with the success of a franchise juggernaut like

Halo, but PlayStation has a huge advantage because

of three letters. G -T -A. And that was an exclusive

to them for a very long time. but also kind of

hurt them in terms of controversy. While it endeared

them to the gamer, it didn't endear them to the

public. You're going to find more people empathetic

to Master Chief as opposed to Tommy Versetti

or Nico Belling. Steve, how do you view this

and kind of what's your stance or what was your

take going into this before we actually look

at the categories and how one category might

break down compared to another? Just in general,

what do you think of the two in your personal

experience? I like them both, but for different

reasons. Some of them being gaming, some of them

being some of the reasons we'll get into later,

but I've owned, I've played the PlayStation,

I've owned a PlayStation 2, I've played the PS3,

I've played the original Xbox, I own the 360,

so I mean, in that sense, I have enjoyed what

I've used of them, but I... Don't know it's gonna

kind of be a toss -up of which one I overall

choose We'll have to see as we go through based

on these 15 categories what it ends up being

for you Mr. Powers there. I just like calling

you mr. Powers. I don't know why that's fine

How do you tackle this without actually breaking

down the categories looking at it from a personal

standpoint from a personal standpoint? I'm just

gonna come right out the gate and you know, I

am a PlayStation fanboy I have been since 1997.

It pushed that fandom pushed me away from the

original Xbox, which I did not hurt my gaming

culture in any way, shape or form. But I do have

I have strong opinions on, you know, on the Xbox

brand and the PlayStation brand as a whole. I

try to play the middle of the field because I

have both. I'm not one of the people that needs

to, you know, I don't make a purchase and then

have to justify my purchase to the mass public

in. arguments. I can see the faults and the advantages

in both systems, but I am a dyed -in -the -wool

Sony fanboy. I will always go with their console

first over competitors, for better or worse.

All right, well it sounds like we have one person

who initially thinks some positive things about

Xbox, one person on PlayStation side, one person

down the middle. I'm not saying that's like how

it's gonna play out, but from initial comments.

I am going to be more of listening to who has

the better argument. I have much less experience

with these games. I'm just mainly here to facilitate

the conversation and cast a vote on which side

has made a better argument. I guess I'd be called

a... and Nintendo fanboy, maybe? I don't even

know if that's accurate, though. I'm much more

of an old school iconic, like Commodore 64, the

Intellivision, and some of the original Nintendo

stuff. I've not been in the gaming community

much in the last decade, so that kind of eliminates

me from a lot of the Xbox PlayStation talk. Mr.

Dennis, what do you like better? I'm going to

have to be the weird one and go with Sega. Just,

you just had to be strange, didn't you? Yep.

Well, if we're not gonna take this seriously,

then neither am I. Go get a Matari! We will break

it down, mainly keep it focused on Xbox and PlayStation

going forward. Our first category is looking

at basically which company has had the more iconic

or notable or the best characters overall. So

if you think about PlayStation, you know, and

you think about which characters from the PlayStation

world come to your mind and then you do the same

thing with Xbox, which group of characters stands

out more to you? Do you like better? And kind

of go from there. Birdman, since you started

with the initial thoughts, why don't you start

with this one? Which company has had the better

library of characters? Just characters. Doesn't

matter if they're in crappy games, good games,

or what type of games. We're talking pretty much

exclusive to the particular console, right? Well,

I mean, it somewhat defeats the purpose if the

characters appeared in both, unless they were

more of a staple maybe at one, and then later

on it kind of filtered to both, but I can kind

of let you go with it and we'll see where we

go with that. I would argue that PlayStation,

because you look at the success they've had with

the Grand Theft Auto franchise, which was exclusive

to them for a really long time, you would look

at stuff like, say, the Metal Gear series, with,

you know, Solid Snake and all them. this past

console generation, you've had Nathan Drake,

you've had Kratos, you've had Ellie and Joel

from The Last of Us. In terms of Xbox exclusive

franchises, their only really huge contribution,

as far as I'm concerned, is Master Chief from

the Halo franchise, but arguably, Halo has entered,

it's pretty much, it's part of pop culture slang,

like, whenever you talk about a first -person

shooter, the first thing you think about is Call

of Duty or Halo. Call of Duty is available on

both consoles, for example, but you think of

a COD player, you think of Xbox Live. You don't

necessarily think of the PC players, for better

or worse, or the PlayStation players, or basically

the PlayStation players in general. You always

think of the Xbox Live frat -boy douchebag. Hey.

True. Which sucks. Hell, I'm loving Advanced

Warfare right now, my god. But, I'm honestly

gonna have to say PlayStation. They've made more

memorable characters from franchises. Also, how

can I miss Ratchet and Clank? I'd like that to

Jack and Daxter. There's so many memorable characters

on that side. Like I said, Microsoft, not the

Master Chief, but you also have a marketing juggernaut

there. Getting the Halo Nightfall TV series,

which should be out by now. We've had Halo forward

unto Dawn. The Halo movie's been rumored forever.

There's supposed to be a Halo TV series, I think,

on Showtime in the next year or two. I don't

know, but judging purely on library and exclusives

alone, PlayStation's got this one, hands down.

Michael, what would you add? What other characters

haven't we talked about that you'd throw in that

would weigh on either side? Well, first of all,

he's not wrong. Sony... I mean, they were around

for one generation longer than the Xbox was,

than Microsoft was. So, I mean, they're stable

of characters. They own the most iconic characters

out of these two. And honestly, I would hesitate

to... I mean, there's an argument to be made

it could possibly be... I mean, stable number

of iconic characters. They could have the more

than the most out of the three companies. but

better no but the most yes I have to agree with

them it's the it's the PlayStation because I

when I think of when I think of an Xbox the only

thing that I can think of that's actually exclusive

to them is Halo and it's weird for a system that's

been around for 13 years to only have one like

IP that is there that they're known for they've

had like lots of little like false stars and

stuff but Halo is the only one that's like latched

on and luckily it's been able to transcend developers,

but usually doesn't happen You know what yeah

Well, they own gears now, so I guess you could

say that but it's not gears is not the same thing

as halo So and we'll see how that transcends

developers Yeah, are we missing any other characters

that are that are you don't know from the PlayStation

side? I know you guys mentioned Ratchet and Clank

Jack and Dax or Sly Cooper You could throw in

I I would I wouldn't hesitate to throw in Crash

Bandicoot Spiro I mean they aren't they don't

belong to Sony anymore. They actually belong

to Universal now or I'm sorry Activision But

I they started out as Sony franchises in fact

Crash Bandicoot was Naughty Dog's so Resistance

is another one. They also have Killzone Pretty

much Yep, but even yeah, so no, it's it's alright.

I I'm on Sony side firmly on this one. Yeah,

Steve Are you in agreement is this one gonna

be like a unanimous category where it's easy

to pick? I think so. I mean Xbox doesn't really

have that much going for it in this area. I think

Sony is really gonna slam dunk it They I mean

they have Final Fantasy you have all the Mega

Man X series Well Mega Man X started on the Super

Nintendo it did but then when it went to disk

based it went right to PlayStation. Yeah, it

didn't go to Sega, you know It stayed exclusive

to PlayStation after it jumped ship from Nintendo

so There's that, and then you have your Namco,

Konami type games that pop up. So I'd definitely

say PlayStation wins this slam dunk. Alright,

well then there's not much of a need to go any

further with the characters since that one would

solidify it for PlayStation. Now we're going

to get into some games for a little while. We'll

eventually talk Generations and we'll talk some

other things, but we're going to do a good number

of game categories in a row. I think about five

in a row or six in a row. So. We'll get into

the more specific types of games, but in the

first category, I just want to go over diversity

of their library as it speaks. This could be

something that would have a wide appeal, which

company has... Has done a better job having a

very large and diverse library of games because

I know that's one thing that sometimes certain

consoles can get Criticized for and not just

not enough games or who it's not just about who

has more games But who has a more diverse collection

in their library, I guess And Michael power to

let you go first on this one Who has a better

library? I know PlayStation's been around a little

bit longer, but I mean even if you were to Look

at the ones that were directly competing against

each other and in those years Maybe if that's

a fair way to look at it. Well, let's be honest

here I mean Microsoft's the only console out

there that had the Burger King games on them.

So It's gotta go to Microsoft because they had

the most they have those that's four games Sony

will never have No, I I Don't know. This is this

is kind of weird because you have to look at

a lot of franchises got their start from Sony.

And there wasn't a whole lot of deviation in

terms of GTA was a Sony franchise. Final Fantasy

was a Sony franchise until the PS3 hit and it

wasn't the, you know, Sony realized they couldn't

sell a $600 box to people. And when that happened,

those developers were like, wait, Okay, now we

need to break exclusivity and make this game

for multiple platforms so As far as more diverse

games go I They pretty much have the same if

you're comparing like I Don't know. This is really

tricky. I think they have the same the same diversity

in games because you know if you know if Xbox

has halo PlayStation has Killzone. So that's

like both a shooter. I mean, they pretty much

they've got their pros whatever the devil's advocate

to each game that they make and I don't know

I I honestly would think that that's a tie because

I think you can find just about anything you

want on each system if you want a racing game

on The 360 you go with force of you want a racing

game on a PlayStation system. You go with grant

Gran Turismo. It's I think if this was just on

volume, on number of games, I think that would

be a different conversation and probably an easier

one. A little more black and white. Working at

somewhere that sold games for nine years and

working directly in that department, we always

had more shelf space dedicated to PlayStation

than any of the other video game companies. They

just had more games available. So if it was just

strictly on like a number of games, that would

be one thing. But I guess if we're talking diversity,

it could be easier to find a similar standpoint

from both companies. Dodd, do you agree or do

you think one has a better... I would actually

disagree because Xbox has one huge advantage

over PlayStation here. Xbox Live. When you look

at all the downloadable titles available there,

plus with the Kinect sensor having I think a

year and a half lead over the PlayStation Move.

Plus, Kinect development was active a lot longer

than PlayStation Move development was. I mean,

they really dropped the ball on that attack,

which really sucks, because I thought it was

really good. Just underutilized. You look at

music games, for example. PlayStation started

that genre, and arguably they had more available

because they had... They had the Guitar Hero

series, there was American Idol, they had Sing

Star, which... DDR. Four version, yeah, DDR,

DJ Hero, Rock Band, and even lesser known ones.

But Xbox Live opened up indie development, where

you could purchase games from indie developers,

and there's so much weird variety on there. But

those games are all... But the problem is, those

games are all now available on the PlayStation.

Not not all them What and that's the thing though?

It took Sony so long to open up the PlayStation

Network development kits So so people could program

games for PlayStation and if you look at indie

titles on PlayStation compared to Xbox At least

on the 360 can you name one off the top of my

head now? Off the top of my head, but early on

Microsoft had them beat hands down now that being

said PlayStation is doing more now with their

Vita in independent platforms and I've seen any

company take a risk with in a really long time

and PlayStation would win handheld hang Without

a doubt outside of the outside of the 3ds because

there was talk of a Microsoft handheld for a

while, but we'll talk about that later But um,

I also think of all the different connects games

like for example on my Xbox one right now I have

a game called Fantasia, Music Evolved. I don't

know whether that's out on PlayStation 4. I'm

pretty sure it's not. It's not, but then it's...

I mean, that game had... I don't know. I just

don't count that as a game. It's... great. It's

friggin' fantastic. Plus, I like the fact that

you can do different things with the PlayStation,

or no, with the Xbox One. For example, both systems

have cameras, PlayStation 4 and the Xbox One.

I'm playing a game called Just Dance 2015 right

now. I can play with my cell phone, using it

as a motion sensor, just kind of using it, kind

of like how PlayStation 4 would use it as their

PlayStation Move thing. So if I had to say better

diversity, I'm going to say Microsoft, because

I think they took a risk longer. And you look

at the amount of Kinect games it had. for better

or worse compared to PlayStation Move. I think

Microsoft takes it, but just barely. Steve, what

about you? I don't know. I'm kind of in agreement

with that. But at the same time, I would almost

argue that PlayStation has more of a diverse

range. I mean, you have all the sports games,

you have all the music stuff. Granted, you know,

it's not all cross platform. Yeah, I mean, everything

is cross platform, but. One, they've been around

an entire generation longer. Two, it seems like

PlayStation seems to get the longest running

as far as constant releases, even on their older

generation systems, because their libraries for

all of them are huge by comparison to Xbox. I

think it's cheaper to license on PlayStation

as well. Which it may be entirely, but it just

seems like their library is so large that it's

almost hard to beat. I would almost argue that

they're the number one in diversity just because

they have the large library. I mean, you have

the first -person shooters, you have the sports,

you have the music, you have the... you know

the adventure you have the the kind of RPG type

stuff you have your almost side -scroller you

know like with the Mega Man type stuff you have

you have some kind of kiddish games on it but

not not to the extent that some of the the motion

stuff is but it's It's it's there see in the

thing. Sorry to interrupt Steve But when you're

talking about the motion controls and we're talking

about diversity in games I don't really think

the Kinect gives the 360 that much of a or Microsoft

that much of a leg up because I feel like Yeah,

the Kinect is a completely different technology

set than the move But there is still they both

still have the same set of games you can get

just dance on the playstation and you can get

it So it's still it one dancing games the same

as the next it's the same thing It's like I said

you can get forza on on Microsoft system or you

can get grant or Gran Turismo on a PlayStation

system It's the same type of game like just because

they have a different name doesn't make one more

diverse than the other that's what I'm talking

about because I mean in I Mean, I'm not even

gonna count as far as the the motion part is

concerned because that's a lighter category in

this but I would just argue that overall I would

say that I think PlayStation has the more diverse

better library only because One they've been

around longer and in two it just it seems like

They just have the more memorable Association

with some of those games even though some of

them may be cross -platform It seems like people

associate them more so with PlayStation than

they do with Xbox. I think this is probably the

hardest thing to compare of these two companies.

Mainly because I think this is what has made

both of them as successful as they are. This

is, I think, the biggest complaint that, and

this is coming from someone who obviously loves

Nintendo, but that's the biggest complaint or

biggest argument for a PlayStation or an Xbox

over a Nintendo is the diversity that their libraries

give you. Maybe not as true today as it was maybe

a decade ago, but I know when stuff like GameCube

and especially in the original Wii when that

came out, You know, the lack of diversity was

something that people argued against Nintendo.

I know Nintendo doesn't have anything to do with

this, but my point is that's something that Xbox

and PlayStation both do pretty well, is give

you a very diverse, large body of games to choose

from that can appeal to a lot of people. That's

why I think, you know, Michael is right in a

lot of sense where, you know... They both have

their racing games, they both have their sports

games, they both have their different types of

fighting games, etc. So it gets harder to compare

it. I don't know if PlayStation just wins based

on the number of games they have and maybe their

library is larger. I'd say it comes down to downloadable

stuff. Because Xbox has it so much larger, plus

that community is always actively developing.

Find a lot of indie games on PlayStation 4 there

aren't that many I don't know that I can't get

behind that one because I can't any notable any

notable Indie game that isn't garbage is on both

systems Oh, yeah, but they may have got their

start on Xbox, but still it's one that same game

is available on the PlayStation That doesn't

make the Microsoft more diverse because they

had it first that's available on both Xbox stop

listening. Sorry, I'm using my Kinect right now.

I Think this is a tough one Steve you you're

looking like you're leaning towards a vote for

PlayStation Yeah, and I believe Birdman if I'm

hearing right you're voting Xbox on this And

powers that you were kind of on the fence, which

way are you going? That's a great that's a great

Kinect promo Yes. Shut up! Did it do it? Oh,

well clearly I'm still talking. I hate you. Powers,

which way do you think you're going? See, I think

it's equal. I don't think one has a more diverse

library than the other. But because I'm going

to give this to Dodd because there is one game

that I can think of in the Xbox indie library

that is not on the PlayStation. One. Only one.

And that is Super Meat Boy. All right, so I'll

give it to Microsoft. OK, many smash keyboards.

This might be a little bit easier as we get into

some specific types of games and genres, and

I know there's a gazillion different genres of

games and types of games, and there's some. kind

of blurry lines as to what separates some of

them. But we'll try to do this the best we can.

I think it's a little bit easier once you start

looking at it, because even though you said like,

just for an example, like you said, you know,

one might have Forza for a racing game on one

where the other has Gran Turismo. That doesn't

mean we can't compare those two and say which

one is better. That's not necessarily one of

the examples we'll be using. But that's the type

of stuff we're getting into now. So even though

they both have games that speak to that type

of genre, which one does that type of game? better.

And the first one is we're going for more of

the kids games like the earlier aged games, maybe

educational, maybe not. But as far as if you

were trying to define it as kids games, which

company does kids games better? And we'll start

with powers on this one. Can I put a vote in

for Nintendo? Yes, Nintendo would win this and

a couple other categories hands down, but we'll

try to avoid that as much as possible. We were

going to put in the, which does better handheld

units and just give it to Nintendo, but they're

not a competitor in this one. So out of PlayStation

and Xbox, which one does kids games better? Man,

that's tough. One, because I'm not a parent and

so I have never looked at Kids games. I just

kind of treat all games as equal. I mean I will

play a kid's I will play a Lego game You know

if it's you know if it's fun well, I know you

were mentioning some characters before like You

know rationing clank and sly and you know no

I okay Thank you for for that because I don't

for some reason I again I don't think of these

as like kids. I think of them as games that I

play um yeah Again, it comes back to what Microsoft

is known for and it's like it's sports. It's

for it's it's Call of Duty It's it like Dodd

said it's the the frat boy in in all of us. That's

like, you know, that's what a Microsoft system

is known for Granted we haven't seen well, no

Russian Clank and sly are still around. So I

I went on a Given that and I haven't seen anything

outside of like Viva pinata or connect sports

or connect adventures Recently and that's all

recent with the uh with the advent of the connect

but i don't think those games stack up to like

sly and ratchet and clank so i'm gonna go with

playstation that argument against or for i would

be in agreement yeah because xbox really only

has viva piñata and maybe a few other small games

because everything else is pretty much cross

-platform i can't think of any exclusive children

okay no way there was a disney adventure for

connect for the 560 i think that was two years

ago yep it was a lot of those connect games though

as far as the uh disney one wasn't bad i tried

that out at a press event a couple years ago

it's not bad but on on actual use because my

wife wanted it just because we play a lot of

the mini games not a lot of that kind of stuff

um It's ungodly difficult to control because

you have to move your arms like above your head

and behind your back to move forward and sideways

and Yeah, the 360 connect technology just wasn't

there yet arguably with the with the one it's

getting there So yeah, honestly, I'd have to

agree with with Mike there the PlayStation just

has a wider variety although I'd argue Piva pinata

is a lot of fun, but It's it's not the other

games that are meant for and for everybody Steve

unanimous on this one or is there an argument

that we haven't heard for Xbox? I think it's

gonna be unanimous only because there's it's

a lot of it's just cross -platform and there's

a couple of uniques to to PlayStation that that

Xbox doesn't have but I don't think that Xbox

really I Don't I don't think that it really Is

any less kid -friendly, but I don't think that

it really has the the amount of Games that PlayStation

has for it in fairness to this and still I'm

not changing my side or anything But I feel like

just the way the Xbox marketing is it's very

much, you know, like I said, it's the frat boy

It's they don't it's all dude, bro Yeah, they

don't market their kids games. No, they market

towards the 18 to 35. It's almost like Nintendo

directly gears towards the younger audience.

Xbox intentionally gears towards the older audience,

and PlayStation attempts to do both in a way.

Not saying that it doesn't gear a lot of them

towards a told him towards an older audience

But it doesn't necessarily shy away from the

kids maybe as much as Xbox seems to But that's

coming from someone who's very ignorant on this

topic. So I maybe just sound stupid Um, but it

seems like we have a unanimous vote for PlayStation

when it comes to kids games Let's flip it to

the other side of the equation then and we're

talking about exclusively Mature ratings on games

mature or above. I don't know if there isn't

above mature rating. Does it go? Okay, so as

far as like the mature reading games for strictly

for adults Which system does that better and

I don't have any knowledge about these games

whatsoever or who has better ones all you guys

got to Educate me here. So dad wanting to start

on that one. I'm trying to think here. Once again,

there's a lot of cross -platform Right, but I

think PlayStation once again takes this because

you look at they had Resident Evil for the longest

time It was exclusive. I mean, I'm sure the reports

of the Dreamcast and the GameCube later on but

You look at the mature games that were good.

A lot of them came out of PlayStation Xbox I

think of Halo I think of Gears of War I Guess

you can make I think that warrior was T for teen

I don't know whether it's M for mature or not

off the top of my head. Is Halo even M? I'm being

serious. Yes. Okay. Okay. Yeah I can't think

of why, but okay. Well, if there is blood, you

can blow people up, so. Oh, okay. Well, there's

like, yeah, Mass Effect and Unreal Tournament.

Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, I think... Yeah, I mean,

and especially last console generation, and even

this one, you look at a game like The Last of

Us as a console exclusive, if there ever was

a really good use of the M rating, that's it.

It's the gorgeous game inside and out. How many

Grand Theft Auto games were exclusive to PlayStation

or are they all available in both? They're all

cross -platform now. Nope. Oh, well, I guess

Liberty City Stories and Vice City Stories, right?

Well, I'm sorry. Yeah, you're right. I was also

thinking of Grand Theft Auto and Grand Theft

Auto 2, which haven't appeared on anything else.

But those have all had mature ratings, I assume?

I think so. Yeah, all the Grand Theft Auto's

have. And I think all the Metal Gears have an

M as well. Yep. I'm not a hundred percent sure

on that one, so don't quote me on that. All of

those outside of Revengeance have been Sony exclusives.

Yeah. So, Powers, are you supporting? No, Metal

Gear Sons of Liberty was ported. Oh, well. And

it was ported in the HD collection last year.

And Twin Snakes. Yeah, and Twin Snakes. Never

mind. I'm an idiot. But initially, yeah, I think

PlayStation gets it. Plus, you look at the weird,

mature fighting games that come out on over there,

too. Over there? Yeah, over there on the PlayStation.

On Left Field? Yeah, honestly, I mean, I can't,

I mean, sure, there's a lot of bad M -rated games,

but there's also some real gems, too. Another

one that's a PlayStation exclusive and I'm pretty

sure still is. is the legacy of kane series yeah

stuff like that and xbox don't have that i think

they might have something now but i'm not sure

was two raider even m rated yeah i think it is

yeah it is well the new one is for sure um i

know the new one is are we missing anything on

the xbox side no that's the thing if you and

i'm glad we're doing this if you keep it just

strictly exclusives. Like if you take out Mass

Effect, you take out Fallout and Assassin's Creed

and stuff like that, Sony's going to win a lot

of these hands down when you're talking about

games, because they have the better exclusives

in a lot of respects. And a lot of the exclusives

tend to be immature rated games. So I'm going

to go with Sony. All right, Steve, what do you

think? In agreement again, do we have another?

I can't argue with their points. Alright, then

Looks like another clean sweep for PlayStation

with the mature games will switch to a different

genre a few more to go through here if we're

looking at RPGs and Anything within that realm

which again you guys are more educated than I

am on all the different variations of different

types of RPGs Is there a clear winner in this

one again, or is it closer? I will say I'm I'll

just jump in here I will throw out Final Fantasy

7 and I'll throw out the Kingdom Hearts series

and sony wins both of those yeah i'm just gonna

i'm gonna go ahead with something on this one

one of the things that sony has an advantage

with they get a lot of jrpg's that necessarily

don't make it over here or they only get released

on one console so that's kind of what i was going

after yeah i mean like In terms of really good

RPGs, but the thing is, once again, it's cross

-platform, because I could have argued Mass Effect

and Skyrim. Skyrim runs like shit on a PlayStation

3 when you run it on an Xbox 360. A comparison,

but Mass Effect, I think, is one of the best

games of this generation, but PlayStation never

got Knights of the Old Republic, whereas Xbox

did. So Bioware clearly has a bias. And Dragon

Age is an exclusive. No, Dragon Age is not an

exclusive. No, it is not. Yeah, that's what I

thought. Well, okay. Oh, wait, hang on. I think

Dragon Age and Dragon Age 2 might be? I'm not

sure. I'm pretty sure I've seen them for the

PlayStation 3. But are three BioWare games enough

to trump Square Enix's library of RPGs? I don't

know. Final Fantasy XIII, Lightning Returns,

and all that bullshit. Well, you've got games

to talk to 13 series there's a lot to turn me

off but I think PlayStation would get this again

because of J RPGs There's so many as there's

a lot of underrated gems there, too Plus when

you look at the PlayStation Network, you can

go back and get Chrono Trigger You can go back

and get other games that had appeared that had

appeared on older consoles But you can't get

that on Xbox public service announcement No one

please no one play Krone trigger on a PlayStation

system play it on a Super Nintendo or an Nintendo

DS Yes, so you just watch them on YouTube when

you get in between those points Steve agree or

no I agree. It's becoming a broken record. God

damn it Xbox, you're supposed to make this easier.

I know, I love Xbox too and that's the sad thing.

Maybe we'll switch with this next genre, only

two more ones as far as actual games there and

the next one could also include some of the stuff

that we were talking about I guess before with

the racing but uh... Sports or so or you can

widen it up We're not just talking about obviously

the ones that are going to be on both of them

like Madden is always going to be available in

both etc but even if you widen it out to include

racing to include I don't know if there's you

know different boxing or MMA type games or even

I guess some of the connect and move might have

some like Like something similar to like what

we sports has etc So if you're looking at sports

games in general or how you define sports games

might be a big factor in how you rule the genre,

where would you go with sports games, Dodd? Well,

if we're, are we, and you said we're including

racing? If you, if that's sports, if that, is

it when you think of sports, if you include that?

Yeah, that screams sports to me, so it's hard

to say because Gran Turismo is really good, but

Forza looks amazing year to year. Then again,

so does Gran Turismo. Don't know. I don't think

you can really Are there any of the mains? Are

there any of like if you've taken like football

baseball? I know basketball games are usually

terrible But if you take football baseball and

basketball games, are there any that are not

cross -platform? No It used to be a thing where

like all -star baseball was only on PlayStation

or whatever. I don't that might be a bad example

PlayStation has MLB Show the show. Yeah, they

have the baseball game That's the only baseball

game isn't it now it is Yes, that is the only

baseball game I think PlayStation also kind of

covers all the other sports it whereas I think

Microsoft covers Or with the Xbox they cover

like the the main sports, you know, you have

your racing you have your You know your your

football hockey basketball that kind of stuff,

but you don't really have Think there's much

of the other the sports one might have been easier

to compare and the earlier consoles because I

Wasn't it more of a thing back when they both

were starting where they had exclusive companies

that were doing sports games region Well, you

said baseball triple play baseball used to that

was across well your what he's talked with the

date mirror stuff was cross -platform But you're

talking about nine eight nine studios, which

was Sony sports game They made so many sports

games and then there was 2k Who made sports games

for at the time the dreamcast? And then they

made the then they made their games only for

the Xbox and then they started making their games

for both systems But the 2K sports brand is gone

now, and so is 989 Sports. 2K Sports is still

around, they just put out 2K 15. Oh, okay. It's

still... That horrible face scanning technology

that produces monsters. It's terrifying! I don't

follow the sports scene too well, but they don't

have the breadth of games that they had before.

Like, there is no NHL 2K anymore. Yeah, it's

all EA now. Right, so I... I was actually ready

to, until we brought up the show, MLB the show

on the PlayStation, I was actually ready to hand

this off to Microsoft. There is no clear Microsoft

exclusive sports title, or if there is, it's

not one you give a shit about. Well, I was going

to hand this off to Microsoft because in the

early days of the 360 and the PS3, Microsoft

consistently had the better, the better of the

two cross -platform games. Add -in traditionally

ran at 60 frames a second for the right out the

gate and for the second year, and the PS3 ran

at 30 frames a second. And in sports and stuff

like that, that matters. So like right up until

I realized Sony had the only baseball game I

was ready to give it to Microsoft on a technicality.

I don't know. Well, if we're going to argue that,

then you can look at PlayStation Network versus

Xbox Live for online play for sports. If we're

going to do that, Most of the most of the competitive

sports if they're played online or played on

xbox consoles But if you look at if you take

that into account i'm just i'm just throwing

this out there i'm not disagreeing with you Yeah,

if you take that into account does that automatically

mean that? Microsoft could theoretically win

another Category here It depends on how we look

at the criteria for this but MLB the show is

a pretty convincing argument for better sports

games. Once again it comes down the first party

exclusive. It has a lot of really good partnerships.

If you go away from it though kind of trying

to go off of what you guys were talking about

if you because we've been in the habit of just

eliminating all the ones that are available on

both consoles if you own both the you know a

PlayStation console and an Xbox console And and

you're a football fan per se or whatever basketball

baseball would you know, and there is a game

that's available on both Which system are you

buying it for are you buying? Because you get

a larger player base, you'll always get the updates

first an Xbox live It does have its fuck -ups,

but odds are you'll have a smooth online experience.

With Sony on the PS3 early on during their sports

games, it was a bitch to find people. So if sports

is the only, let's say you're the type of gamer

that literally sports is the only types of games

you're gonna play, would you buy an Xbox over

a PlayStation? That's so subjective. And I say

that because... I say that because well, he's

saying he could buy a sports game and play it

on the 360 and he'll have an audience there like

I could I could buy the same game and I could

have a built -in audience with my friends like

that's It's so subjective. That's why I was looking

at like technicalities Like it comes down to

it comes down to that and even talking even if

you want to talk about who has the better uh

racing game Um, you could look at four you look

at forza or you look at grand trizmo because

those are the two marquee racing games for the

two of them even that's subjective like I can't

stand the look of Forza but I love the look of

Gran Turismo however however Forza also has two

Forza franchises one for the hardcore sim guy

and the other one for like the arcade I just

want to mess mess stuff up and Gran Turismo has

no answer to that so if you take Forza as a franchise

and you take the whole, the technicality of Madden

running better, having better support early on

in the 360's life cycle, I could still give it

to Microsoft. But then again, it depends how

much does baseball matter to you. Steve, what

do you think? Hmm. See, I don't know. I'm almost

going to go Microsoft only for the fact that

I just like how smooth the games play better

on the console. I also like the controller better

to play certain games. Yeah, that's and that's

another category later on, too. But that's another

thing that kind of impacts it is I don't feel

the muscle strain. That could be an argument.

I mean, me personally, I only play I used to

play Madden, but if it was right now, I would

only play baseball games because that's the only

sports games I played in the last probably five

or six years. The only place you could get that

is the PlayStation. Right, so I mean, I would

be tempted to do that, but let's say I'm not

a baseball fan. If I'm a sports gaming fan and

games run better on Xbox, which it seems like

you guys are saying, at least in some cases,

I don't know if that's enough to sway me over

to that side or not, but see what you guys come

down to when it comes to your official vote and

what weighs mostly towards one or the other for

you. Bergman, if you had to cast a vote, where

are you going for sports games? I would say,

I would say Microsoft, simply because Xbox Live...

It comes to it's got a better in it's got a better

install base or those types of games. It's easier

to find games there Once again, that's subjective

on your area network connections. It's hard to

say it, but I would probably go Xbox Steve Going

with you as far now so you don't have to just

agree so you can't let them both vote the same

and then take some As far as what the sports

games the sports games I I'm gonna go Xbox Powers

I'm gonna go Microsoft as well, but I'm not gonna

go the subjective route that Dodd went I'm just

gonna go on the technicalities All right Um,

last group of, uh, genres of games, and I guess

we've kind of been circling around this a lot

as we get to the actual first party games. It

seems like we already kind of know where we're

going with this. But as far as first party games

goes, is it a slam dunk for PlayStation? I don't

want to go first. Yeah. Yes. No, God, there's

no arguing with this. Like I said, I love Gears

and I love Halo, but I love The Last of Us. I

love Uncharted. Infamous. Infamous yeah fucking

right infamous like man Microsoft you you've

done some amazing things, but All right Steve

do we need to make any arguments here is this

one just to move on to the next one type one

For the first party and everything I'm gonna

go PlayStation only because I like DC Universe

and which is Sony owned and then Various other

games that have already been mentioned. So all

right getting just past the halfway point here

into some Different types of categories we get

away from the actual games a little bit and getting

more into the hardware of things and then some

of the other Things that they offer we've mentioned

in a couple different times. So let's get into

it a little bit more when it goes to Something

like the PlayStation Plus or the Xbox live or

a different way of thinking in it Just if we're

looking at online gaming in general who has the

better company and system when it comes to online

gaming or if you want to just specifically compare

playstation plus and xbox live um michael powers

why don't you start us off with this one i didn't

want to go first because i know that's gonna

jump down my throat that's the fun part of it

okay here's the thing and this this is kind of

how i feel about the the the 360 and xbox live

hands down Total winner there is no comparing

Xbox live on the 360 like none the the way that

system worked was great now the only knock I

will give it is that they up until recently this

year all of their Netflix streaming and all that

stuff was behind the paywall of Xbox live which

means You know with your subscription to Netflix

you also had to pay them You know 50 60 also

if you could find it on special $20 for you know

a live subscription PlayStation Plus never did

that I On the and PlayStation online with the

ps3 was a total mess Absolute mess all the way

through the floor Horrid never used it for anything

if I was gonna play an online game in the 360

era and the ps3 era I played on the 360 net I

played single -player games on the PlayStation

As a subscription service though, I'd enjoy PlayStation

Plus more than live because I feel like they

give you more than live does Especially now since

life took all that stuff out from behind the

paywall like now you're just kind of paying for

online gaming But I feel that along this generation

with the ps4 and the Xbox one given that these

were the two only two generations with online

gaming in them. I feel like the role is reversed,

kind of like how the roles of the PlayStation

4 and the Xbox One have reversed from last generation,

where PlayStation has the right marketing message

going forward, which is like gamers first and

Microsoft came out the gate and it's been backpedaling

ever since trying to rectify their problems.

I can't use Xbox Live on my one without wanting

to throw my controller. I do not like the way

it is set up at all. I just I feel like I can

do things much faster on the PlayStation 4 like

they They knew that they had screwed up the PlayStation

3's online experience so much that they had to

Improve on that and I feel like they did and

I feel like Microsoft just made it more convoluted

Like I still like it on the 360 hated on the

Xbox one And I'm just gonna I'm just gonna cast

my... I'll just go right now, because I don't

really play my PlayStation 3 anymore, and I don't

play the Xbox 360, and every time I turn on my

Xbox One, I have to wait 45 minutes before I

can start playing games. However... Something

is fucked up with your Xbox One, then. Yeah,

it's called taking 45 minutes to install a freaking

game. But that's not the fault of Xbox Live.

No, but it's their system, and it's a piece of

crap. Yeah, yeah, it's not the way to install

stuff on the PlayStation 4, too. Okay, anyways...

No, no, no hang on no, here's the thing I installed

sunset overdrive on my p on my Xbox one It is

a 20 gigabyte game it took me 45 minutes to install

that stupid thing guess what I installed Call

of Duty it took five minutes on my ps4 there

is a problem there Anyways Anyways, all right,

I prefer the ps4 now So i'm just going to go

right now on the ps4 side because they still

have all the value of playstation plus And they've

rectified a lot of their online issues from the

ps3 a lot of them from previous generation xbox

360 Hands down. That's a winner xbox one to ps4.

It gets a little more complicated. It comes down

to apps actually PlayStation 4 doesn't have a

shit ton of them when it comes to using services.

One thing that sways Xbox One for me is Skype.

I'm talking to you in my living room on Skype

right now. PlayStation 4 does not have that.

However, most systems have Twitch streaming,

which is a service where you can stream gameplay.

The Xbox app for that particular service is twitchy

as hell. The PlayStation 4 version never had

a problem with it, never crashes. Xbox One? I

have trouble with it. When it comes to fighting

games, if I want a competitive COD game, I go

Xbox One, because I know that, and you know why?

Because Xbox pays for exclusivity to get the

DLC first. Competitive gaming is almost always

Xbox. Whenever you go to Evo, it's usually Xbox.

Whenever you go to any of the big tournaments,

it's almost always Xbox. Now, it may be certain

for, let's say, fighting games, it's a little

bit different. I prefer my For my stuff on PlayStation

honestly Being stupid There we go But One of

the things PlayStation does right PlayStation

Plus gives you so much crap. Oh My god, they

give you so much play Xbox one has not figured

out good games to give you yet PS4 gives you

two good games across every console, PS3, PS

Vita, and PlayStation 4. So it's kind of subjective

here. Like last generation, it was pretty cut

and dry. This one, they're pretty evenly tied.

But I feel like I have a better social experience

on Xbox One. But I have a better gaming experience

with certain titles. The social experience I

think that's subjective because when I each system

when I turn them on I immediately go into a party

I don't interact with the community and There's

just more of my friends playing on PlayStation

4 so I can jump in a party with eight people

like I'm not You know Xbox one I turn that on

none of my friends have an Xbox one so I could

go either Like chat and play a game with eight

people or I can go sit by myself on my xbox one

and do nothing So that's that's really the whole

social aspect of it. It's kind of to me is kind

of I mean, okay for me if I had to bring it down

to a competitive scene Xbox because I want to

play against Mlg level players in halo and the

majority of them are going to be on xbox. Really

a halo I want to play competitive lever competitive

level killer instinct xbox Now that being said,

I want to play competitive level Street Fighter.

Probably gonna have to go PlayStation 3, actually.

So, I don't know, if I want a good COD experience,

I'm gonna have to go Xbox. So this one, it's

tough, because I really like certain things about

the PlayStation as well, because the way Xbox

Live is set up, I'm in Canada, so I can't access

some of the US apps. I could if I set up an Xbox

account in the US. It had it to my console. But

it's a pain in the ass to do. Just trust me on

this. For the PlayStation 4, it's like a two

-minute process. Bingo, bango, done. I can access

the WWE Network in Canada. I can access Hulu.

I can access HBO. All these great services. PlayStation

makes it easier. This one... I'm gonna say PlayStation

right now. You get so much value for what you

get. Plus, the thing that sways my vote the most

is ease of apps. Yeah, that's pretty much what

swings my vote. It's apps. Mostly because of

Twitch. And the WWE Network, stuff like that.

It's so much easier to access on PS4. Steve,

do you have any experience with the online gaming

aspect? I feel dirty saying that, by the way.

Not really, only because I refuse to pay to play

a game on the internet. Not that I wouldn't play

the games on the internet. I just I refuse to

pay for it I've had experience playing on both

PlayStation and Xbox as far as the like the the

PlayStation 3 being on on the PlayStation Network

and With my my brother -in -law and he plays

Call of Duty and all that crap so It wasn't Don't

know I didn't I Don't much care for a lot of

the stuff that has to with PlayStation but like

Xbox I Tended to like when they had the free

weekends of the internet and I played it so and

I enjoyed that more on there, so If I was going

to actually do the the cop -out mode I would

say Xbox only because that's what I'm more familiar

with Fair enough and getting into the ninth category

and I know this is going to be a little bit up

for debate as far as which generation maybe you

look at and which console specifically but if

you're looking at the entire life of All the

different Xbox consoles or all the different

PlayStation consoles. We're looking at specifically

at controllers with this category I'm pretty

sure if we were just looking at the original

Xbox that would lose this category Um, maybe

that's just me, but that was one of the worst

controllers I've ever seen on any type of console.

Yes. It was the most awkward as hell controller

to hold. But obviously they had the original

Xbox controller. Yeah, the original S1 was shit.

Obviously they've all evolved over that and I

don't know if you want to look at where they're

at right now or if you just kind of want to look

at an entire lifespan. But if you're looking

at who did their, who's done controllers better,

made them easier to handle, more functional,

etc. Maybe it's a hard one to control. Powers,

how do you, how do you try to break this one

down and maybe go generation by generation who

had the better ones or overall, if you're the

whole thing? Okay, for the, if you're going to

play the... PlayStation to PlayStation 2 and

Xbox like if you PlayStation by a generation

by itself Obviously the PlayStation wins because

it's you know It was the only one there if you

look at the Xbox and the PlayStation 2 PlayStation

2 controller is gonna win because well, let's

face it We just talked about how bad that controller

was, huh? Yeah, so that one when when you get

to the 360 and you get to the ps3 that's a completely

different story because Microsoft Made the better

controller hands down made a better controller.

I don't have any issues using a dual shock 3

It's just that the trigger for me. It's the triggers

on the 360 controller. They feel really good

Because of the way they're they're curved for

your finger like an actual trigger rather than

just being a mound that your finger can slip

off of Even though my fingers never slipped off

of it When you get into the ps4 and the Xbox

one, I feel like Sony reclaimed their their status

like so if I That's how I break it down. You

know three wins for Sony and one for Microsoft

so I I Don't know I would I would honestly give

this category to Sony just for longevity But

it also depends on what category you're looking

at like what generation Right Steve let you go

second on this one which controllers have you

had more more ease with or more functionality

with I will say I've used all of them but the

PlayStation 4 and the Xbox One, so I'm pretty

familiar with how they feel and everything. I

didn't really have a problem with the PlayStation

controllers because, like I said, I used to own

a PlayStation 2 and I've played the PlayStation

1 and then my brother -in -law owns the PS3.

But if you're going against the original Xbox

controller, that one was god -awful. It just...

It's like holding onto a circle and like a frisbee

disc or something and trying to hold onto or,

you know, and press these buttons in the most

awkward fashion. But getting to the Xbox 360,

which I still play because I still own it, I

find the controller so infinitely more comfortable

than using the PlayStation controller. just because

the way my fingers have to bend to use the controller

I don't feel like I'm straining my hand as much

and I can play for longer times without my hands

going out on me which I've had happen playing

the PlayStation compared to the Xbox 360 so for

me I would probably choose the The 360 controller

side just choose Xbox overall because I just

I like the controller better Alright, so we've

had one argument on each side bird man. Where

do you go? It comes down to the type of game

the PlayStation 2 to Xbox. Yeah, that's pretty

fucking obvious PlayStation. It's more comfortable

when it comes to 360 and ps3 Depends on the game

For shooters, I will always go 360. It's more

comfortable because that raised D stick is more

accurate. Or that raised analog stick. Or if

you're playing like a game like like Batman or

something, you know, the Arkham games or something.

Yeah, you want more precision. But when I play

a fighting game, I want a PlayStation 3 controller.

Now, if you want to expand that out to include

different types of controllers with these systems,

I prefer my fight sticks on PS3. because they're

I Don't know. They're just they're easier to

program and make for one When I actually make

my own fight sticks and stuff like that I just

prefer it that way, but I'm going to Xbox one

the ps4 ps4 I Like it for most action games,

but not shooters like for example even playing

destiny I never feel as accurate as I am in Halo

or in COD on a PlayStation 4. Basically, Destiny

feels sloppy to me in terms of its accuracy for

shooting on the PlayStation 4 because of the

little analog stick, whereas on the Xbox One

with the raised stick, when I play games like

Titanfall, COD, or Halo, I feel damned accurate.

I feel great to rock and roll. but don't you

guys know i got better fighter control over my

character on playstation i like it was in fact

it comes down to the type of game plus there

are there are controllers made by different companies

like power a niko that are cross -generation

i've got a three sixty controller that will play

playstation three and it's really comfortable

uh... and maybe if i were a shooter like say

resistance or killzone all But I'll put in my

USB stick that powers that and I'll go like that.

But the PlayStation 3 had a lot more options

for controllers, for fight sticks, for steering

wheels. Steering wheels on the Xbox One and the

360 are phenomenal. So I think they kind of went

there just because they had better first party

support. That and second parties like mad cats,

whatever. This is hard. This is actually really,

really, really hard. I'm going to say Microsoft

on this one. It's more comfortable, but it barely

edges out Sony because I tend to game more with

Microsoft stuff. But I love my PlayStation 4,

too, and I feel like I'm betraying her by saying

this. But I want to play a shooter. I'm going

to go to Xbox. Getting into our 10th category

here, looking at what some of you mentioned right

away, especially you Birdman at the start of

the show, but when it comes to marketing, when

it comes to ad campaigns, commercials, slogans,

and that side of the company, because obviously

the company is more than the hardware and the

software. In any business, marketing is one part

of it. So who does the marketing, the ad campaigns,

the commercials, the slogans better? Xbox or

PlayStation, Birdman? Well working as gaming

press for stuff like e3 packs Etc etc and game

developers conference I'm gonna say Microsoft

because you look at the way they handle their

like e3 briefings the way that they've constructed

some of the marketing around their Their IPs

more specifically the halo IP and this is where

I'm gonna say it was most effective remember

those ads for halo 3 was like Believe and it

was the huge battlefield or it might be the soldiers

talking about their experiences fighting alongside

the Master Chief it looked like a movie and They've

they just when it comes to their certain IPs.

They market the hell I remember seeing commercials

for Forza. I see a crap ton of sunset overdrive

commercials right now Xbox I think just has a

better marketing plan But they know when they

fucked up most notably when they had all those

lockouts on the Xbox One initially during the

E3 briefing, and then they changed their minds

six months later because they knew all the negative

backlash, and I was one of them. Oh, God. But

they managed to turn things around in six months.

PlayStation has had some really weird marketing.

I'm looking at the PlayStation Baby. Being one

of them. Just Google PlayStation baby sometime

and you'll see some weird shit No, thank you

Now they did a really cool commercial. I think

it was last year maybe into this one and it was

called Oh, what a perfect day and it was And

it was just them walking through kill zone resistance

Uncharted there's just Them just walking and

saying and beating the crap out of people and

it was really fun I also like think of a PlayStation

4 ads right now for Destiny are amazing Because

they're all Sony focused and they're generally

really funny And the production value on them

is phenomenal But Microsoft has more money to

throw into it when you look at the marketing

simply halo Sony is there they're doing something

in original programming In the next couple of

months yeah, but you look at that compared to

halo nightfall with Ridley Scott I Don't see

those as marketing though, but I Don't I don't

see halo nightfall or the forward onto dawn as

commercials or anything for halo i just feel

like they're extended things for halo like to

me a commercial is like a trailer for a movie

not this tv show is a commercial for the game

but you got forward onto dawn as free as free

stuff anyway you didn't have to pay for it yeah

but i i think the game does that on its own i

don't think the game needed that stuff that's

what i'm saying okay allow me to paint you a

different example It's like running a half -hour

special on TV for, say, an upcoming movie. Like,

a couple months, a couple weeks ago, actually,

they had Marvel's Agents of S .H .I .E .L .D.

They did that 75 years of looking back. That

was one giant commercial for the Marvel Universe.

That's all it was. Fortnite and Nightfall, they're

parts of the Halo lore, but they're ultimately

a marketing tool. I can see both sides of that.

If we're looking strictly though as to how they

directly market or put the campaigns forward

for their systems or their games. If we were

looking at it from that standpoint. Here's another

good one. Microsoft in Toronto did this awesome

marketing thing once again for Halo. It was called

the UNSC Supply Point. You got to play laser

tag with people dressed up as elites, grunts,

and brutes. Here here's a giant plasma gun they

hand you something look like the halo assault

rifle here go play laser tag for ten minutes

you win Here's a limited edition copy of halo

3 Sony has done nothing like that now. I went

to an infamous and a resistance Press event a

couple years ago. I got a small cup of french

fries at end of game. I didn't get the kill on

elite their events, when Microsoft pulls out

all the stops, they go right out. Even the stuff

for Reach, they had another thing for Reach.

They had people defending hills in full Halo

Chief armor. But has Microsoft had anything on

the level of Kevin Butler? I would say the major

Nelson podcast. That doesn't... They're both

just both people. Yeah, but kept Major Nelson

didn't appear on TV and ads Kevin Butler was

like the face of that company for almost a year

or if not more And when I think of that stuff,

that's what I think of also I also think of you

know The the one that's in everyone's mind right

now is Sony's comeback like their campaign going

into this generation hands down they've Whip

the crap out of Microsoft. I would say, Microsoft

did a better launch lineup because PS4's launch

lineup was weak as shit. It didn't get good until

six months in. I could say the same thing for

Xbox One. True, but I felt it was a little bit

better because there were more exclusives. But

none that well see that's subjective because

none that interests me, but what I was gonna

say is the the thing is Sony Sony going up against

the Xbox they've they whooped them all over the

place They're like Sony was on top there Microsoft

didn't know what to do. They weren't doing their

whole halo thing again beating that one IP to

death Yes, they put a bunch of money behind halo

because that's all they've got you know for the

gang rage in season four, that's marketing money.

Whenever people get mentored in shows, that's

marketing money. Okay, I understand, and I cry

foul at all that. None of that stuff attracts

my attention, and it actually kicks me out of

the immersion of that show. So that's more detrimental

to that stuff than adding anything to that show

for me. But all I'm getting at is they... Microsoft

sure Microsoft is going to throw a lot of money

behind halo because that's really all they've

got if I if I'm looking at Microsoft if I look

at PlayStation I look at them kind of like if

I see an ad for a PlayStation thing and it's

like And it's a game that i'm aware of like uncharted

or infamous or hell even destiny right now That's

like when I see an ad for coke or mountain dew

like why are you advertising for these things?

Because they're going to sell like no one's going

to stop buying doritos because you stop putting

a dorito commercial on tv But if you show someone

a picture of cole mcgrath next to the master

chief who's going to get recognized first halo

I understand But no one is more effective marketing

media saturation. It's the Disney strategy. I

give them that they've won the 360 generation.

I don't think they've had a good marketing campaign

on the Xbox One other than backpedaling for every

single thing that they set out to do and giving

in to consumer backlash. I would agree with you

there. They haven't had a super strong title

yet. We'll wait and see what happens with Halo

5. Or message. Like they haven't had they've

been backpedaling for the last year That's what

their marketing campaign has been for the last

year is making up They didn't come out the gate

with a strong thing sony is still coasting on

what they came out the gate with Microsoft has

been backpedaling and gaining favor Sony's still

moving forward and sony also had them on the

ropes with the playstation 2 and the xbox one

So if i'm kind of going by the generation here

and who's had the better campaigns i'm gonna

go with sony because the 360, Microsoft puts

money behind Halo and they also trumped everybody

on the 360 in the 360 generation, but I can't

give it to Microsoft overall. Yeah, I mean, ultimately

it's going to be three years down the road. We'll

see who comes out of this. Steve, what do you

think as far as the different ads and commercials

that you've seen, which have been more effective

to you? I don't know. I'm kind of thinking that

they're pretty much about the same to me. I mean,

I don't really. I mean, over the years, I'd say

that PlayStation seems to have had a lot more

memorable ones over in the past, but any more,

they'd all kind of mesh together. Fair enough.

Yeah, I don't really have an opinion of them.

I honestly don't. If I'm thinking just in my

memory, like Steve said, I remember more Sony

commercials that stood out. Or that we didn't

really talk about their little slogans or their

little you know close those are yeah that type

of stuff, but I mean I was Was drawn more towards

the Sony commercials even though it didn't didn't

necessarily motivate me to buy them But I remember

more of them I'm not saying they they were more

effective or they were but it seemed like for

a long time that like powers of saying the Xbox

was on the ropes it seemed like maybe that's

Outsider seeing things wrong, but it seemed like

they were clinging By some by, you know the the

hair on their chinny chin chin there for a while

I don't know how accurate that is But I just

want to make sure that it's the it's the Xbox

versus the PlayStation 2 when PlayStation 2 was

beating the crap out of them, right? Not the

not the 360. That's what I just want to make

sure that We're on the same thing. Obviously

once 360 came out it was a little bit different

and they kind of righted the ship a little bit

and saved themselves it seemed like but I still

over time and maybe it's unfair since PlayStation

was around longer maybe I'm thinking of some

more of those early commercials but I just remember

more of the commercials more of the jingles more

of the slogans from the PlayStation side and

I'm not saying Xbox is all you know one game

or not I'm not intelligent enough to say that

but I don't remember any commercials about Xbox

that are not involving Halo. My other the other

thing I would say and this is just subjective

to me Is that I don't watch the TV that I watch

does not have commercials in it because I torrent

everything So I don't see what ads that Sony

plays on TV I don't see what ads Microsoft plays

the ads that I see are the ones that run in front

of YouTube or like like or just someone Or movies

or someone talking about something like in my

twitch stream, and I'm not talking like a promoted

tweet But I'm talking about people just talking

in general I see I'm subject for some reason

and I try to be biased but I like for some reason

I'm just I feel like I'm subjected to more Sony

stuff and it might be because when I go to YouTube

I'm searching out like how to get this trophy

or something so of course the first ad to pop

up is gonna be a Sony ad or something like that

but like in the in the limited amount of space

that I That I am personally exist in and where

I am susceptible to marketing. I see more PlayStation

stuff than I do Microsoft now they may have a

stronger TV campaign that I'm not aware of So

fair enough I think that's kind of the case too

for a lot of us and nowadays commercials are

almost a thing of the past when it comes to TV

I don't watch any commercials on TV. I can even

be home when something's airing live. I'll still

record it and watch it an hour later Just so

I don't have to watch the commercial so Embedded

marketing so it's part of the kind of narrative

like Like, for example, tonight during Agent

to Shield, Fitzen Mac were playing Halo Master

Chief Collection. What a coincidence on its release

day. Oh, the money. The money. Follow the money.

We'll hold that one off and we'll call it a tie

for that category. Since Steve wasn't voting,

we'll call it one for each with dot on the Xbox

side powers on the PlayStation side. We'll see

if that tie comes back or if we'll have to settle

it or not but moving on to the the 11th Category

here. We talked a little bit about this kind

of In the peripheral when we were talking about

some of the different games But if you were specifically

comparing the PlayStation move and the Xbox connect

Which has a better interactive, you know as we

get closer to the virtual reality Interactive

move type of functionality connect we Only when

they got Wii Motion Plus. And now they've kind

of abandoned that with the Wii U. Well, Wii Motion

Plus is still in the Wii U controllers. Yeah,

but most games use the Pro Controller. Well,

here's my one aside real quick, off topic here.

Maybe, I don't know, Dodd, if you will know this

or not. I'm trying to work this out. I bought

the Wii Sports for the Wii U because I love Wii

U. I love Wii bowling. Love it. Broken is all

get out on the Wii U and I cannot figure out

why Like it will not like it does not respond

the same way That like Wii bowling does like

the Wii U bowling does not respond the same way

that the Wii bowling does have you? I just remember

playing Punch -Out on the Wii and then just not

being able to move my arms the next day. That

was my experience with that. I have played more...

I actually have somewhat of experience with both

the Wii controllers, the Wii mode and the Kinect.

I've never used the PlayStation Move so I can't

really speak to that but the Xbox Kinect is pretty...

functional, pretty easy to use. You know, there's

a lot of software out there for it. So my girlfriend

and I have a lot of fun doing the different Xbox

Kinect stuff. So I can't speak to the PlayStation

Move. PlayStation Move had a really good launch

setup with basically their version of the Wii

Sports thing. They had this gladiator fighting

game that was a lot of fun. They had this archery

game that was a lot of fun. And other games like

Killzone 3 and Resistance 3 tried to put the

playstation move into its game in fact right

now i'm actually looking at uh it's my resistance

three or sorry killzone three limited edition

and it's one of the rifles in the game and you

put the playstation move controller in the top

slot and you put the bottom we mode thing in

the wee nunchuck in the bottom thing that's all

i get things in and you shoot the screen it never

worked out right But I always felt PlayStation

Move was more accurate in terms of gesture -based,

in terms of body movement, the Kinect had it.

And it's mostly because of harmonics and Dance

Central. Now, other developers like Ubisoft and

Capcom tried, even Namco tried it with their

Dragon Ball Z game, which is hilariously stupid.

The Napa guy knows not to judge a man by his

car's multicolor paint job or absence of modern

gadgetry. Who cares if it's technically old enough

to vote and the windows are powered by the strength

of your left arm? Your monthly payment is zero

and it'll stay that way because with over 500

,000 parts and a little Napa know -how you can

keep anything on the road. She may not be pretty

but she's all yours. That's Napa know -how. and

connect fighters within from Ubisoft. But you

look at a company like Dance Central that did,

sorry, a company like Harmonis that did Dance

Central. They also did Fantasia, which I talked

about earlier, and stuff like that. The Kinect

technology's great. I don't see a lot of PlayStation,

I don't think there's gonna be a PlayStation

Move for PlayStation 4. But it's got the camera

and it can track you in and do stuff Yeah, the

well the moves built into the controller now,

but there's no games that like use that as a

tracking thing For me the connect the connect

wins for for voice controls like I Now here's

the thing. I have the move camera for my playstation

4 and Had trouble getting it to do what I wanted

to do before the latest update now I can't get

it to do anything because I don't know what the

freaking voice commands are They're not natural

voice commands the connect They worked like I

said before now they're they're convoluted But

the connect like the the connect the voice commands

in the connect work I don't really care about

the whole motion tracking thing of either one

of them because I don't I'm not that type of

a gamer But just solely going off of the utility

of being able to talk to my console and get it

to do what I want it to do, I go with Kinect,

hands down. Yeah, like, with my Kinect, it turns

on my TV. I can control my stereo through it.

If I want to say, hey, Box, go watch AMC, it'll

do that. Or if I want to talk to you guys on

Skype, I just have to say, you know, Box, go

to Skype, and it'll do that. We're lucky we're

not losing him right now as he gives all these

commands out. That's why I'm saying box. Xbox

turn off. It's really sensitive, I'll tell you

that. Steve, you have some experience with the

Kinect, right? Yeah. Are you in agreement with

what they're saying? Yeah, I mean I pretty much

have to go with the Xbox Kinect. I don't have

any experience with the PlayStation Move. I've

used all their other accessories, but I haven't

used that. But the Kinect is pretty much spot

on for the most part, and there's a lot of other

applications to it besides just gaming. Don't

necessarily need to go and rehash some of the

arguments we've made when it comes to, you know,

the games and the controllers, etc. But we can

still kind of look at these in a more general

sense, and we're going to compare generation

by generation. I know we've touched on it a little

bit, but we'll break it down one by one here.

So, in the first, we won't compare PlayStation

1 to anything, just like we won't compare handhelds.

But if we're going PlayStation 2 versus Xbox,

if you only have, you know, if you're back in

whatever year that was, good lord, a long time

ago, and you only have I have at that point,

what, $200? I don't know how much they cost.

$300? Yeah. You can only buy one of them powers.

Are you buying the original Xbox or are you buying

PlayStation 2? PS2. I figured that would probably

be an easy one, Steve. What are you doing? PS2.

Birdman? PS2. All right, so slam dunk. Oh, dang

it. There's more stuff to do. There's more games

and there's more you get more bang for your buck

with your 300 bucks too because unlike the Xbox

the ps2 could play DVDs out the get -go Exactly

now I remember the remember what it was when

we had the contest between blu -ray and We had

two different setups to the target both having

both of them and it was like immediately we're

like that's not gonna work I actually had an

HDDVU drive propping up a couch at one point.

Nice, okay. So fast forward a few more years

and the price tag probably goes up at least at

what, 100 or 200 more dollars? I don't know,

I never bought any of these. But you only have

so much money and you have to choose to buy the

PlayStation 3 or the Xbox 360. Steve, which one

are you buying? 360. This is such an asshole

question. I'll tell you why. Why? Blu -ray! You

fucks! Because I love 1080p. I love that rich

surround sound. Because I'm a movie guy. PlayStation

3. Fuck you. Yep. Still one of the best Blu -ray

players on the market. Yep. I use it every day.

So, Powers, you're buying a PlayStation 3 instead

of an Xbox 360? Well... He already owns them.

Hang on. No. I own them for everybody else. No.

Okay. Just so everyone, I just want to share

this story real quick I bought an Xbox 360 before

I bought a PlayStation 3 simply because it was

cheaper I got my my Xbox in 2006 which is when

the PlayStation 3 came out And it was much cheaper

than the PlayStation 3 and I just want I just

bought an HD TV my first one ever I wanted to

play HD games so I didn't have a lot of money

so I went with the Xbox 360 so In that, if we're

going by history, I would have purchased the

Xbox 360. Looking back, if I had been smart,

I probably would have saved up a little bit more

and got myself a PlayStation 3, which I ended

up getting a year later. And the PlayStation

3 is just, you know, again, just like the PlayStation

2 was before, it's more bang for your buck. You

get a really good Blu -ray player. If you got

one of the earlier ones, you also got the ability

to play all your PlayStation 2 games. So even

with all the improvements that the 360 controller

made and the different things that you guys said

and other categories PlayStation 3 still wins

out But the other thing too is to me the controller

I don't I've never had a problem with the controllers

not like I don't like this system because of

the controller issue So I would honestly if I'd

had the money that time I would have gone with

the PlayStation 3 again because I was a Sony

guy like that's what I was That's what I was

playing like all my TV was a Sony. My stereo

was a Sony. Everything was a Sony Dodd you said

something real quick. Were you saying that you

would vote for PlayStation as well on this one?

I really would and I actually bought a PlayStation.

I bought my first PlayStation in 2008 Because

I really wanted Metal Gear Solid for Guns of

the Patriots, but my first HD system was a 360

because I really wanted Dead Rising The thing

the thing that would sway me is blu -ray. I Like

being in the media and going to college for this

stuff We're always on the lookout for the next

format And when it was when it was between HD

DDD and blu -ray The thing that won that war

was porn Whatever format porn goes with will

be the winner When I saw a lot of companies signing

on with with like blu -ray like vivid and hustler

and all that I have friends in the adult industry.

I'm thinking, you know what? Blu -ray five ten

years down the road Actually Dave right now is

sorting my blu -rays said I have way more blu

-rays than I have DVDs. It's kind of insane.

Yeah me too It's It's got to be that ultimately

it's gonna come down to media capability plus

Setting up the media server on the PlayStation

3 10 times easier than doing it through the Xbox

360 Yep, cuz it just shows up right there in

the dashboard I like I like the XMB too. I mean

I for the for the 360 It really didn't get any

better for me than the blades. I love the best.

Yes. I love the blades but the XMB is I don't

know what people's problem with it is. It's elegant.

It's perfect. Yeah. You know exactly where everything

is, and it never moves. Nope. It's gorgeous.

It's honestly a beautiful thing. And no ads.

Yeah, that's true. Except, again, that little

news ticker, but whatever. You can turn it off.

For the one that fewer of us probably have experience

with, but I know... both the mics can talk about

it a little bit. If we're going to what's currently

out there with the PlayStation 4 and the Xbox

One, if you can only buy one, what's the better

buy, Birdman? This comes tough for me because

both of them have really big perks. It ultimately

comes down to exclusives. For me, I hate answering

this. I really do. I really like the Xbox One

because I like the fact that finally we're getting

dedicated media, there's going to be DLNA support

soon, supports external hard drives and MP3s

and everything now via its preview program. I

like the interactive experiences that I get with

it. It can play Blu -rays, so it wins points

there. And when Microsoft was pushing at their

E3 conference how it's supposed to be an entertainment

hub, it really is. And the fact that my wife

can use it, who's not very technologically inclined,

that really says for simplicity of use. So I

love my PlayStation 4. Do not get me wrong, because

I love how simple it is to get around certain,

shall we say, regional lockouts. But it's got

to be Xbox One, but it's... Like I said, it comes

down to exclusives and I love infamous and I

love sunset overdrive. I love halo. I love the

last of us Yeah, it's gonna be xbox for right

now powers I have to go. I mean, I bought a playstation

4 first I I do not regret buying a playstation

4 first I've had the xbox one for almost a year

now and i've only bought two games for it And

that was titanfall and sunset overdrive um Dead

Rising 3 it's really I don't I don't care for

the Dead Rising games The the PlayStation 4 to

me it It's exactly what Sony advertised. It was

going to be when they did their press thing in

February of last year I mean granted some features

weren't there out of the bag but unlike the PlayStation

3 where they made all these wild promises and

Half of them never came to fruition They made

a lot of wild promises at theirs, and they're

still giving them to us. They just added the

SharePlay thing. They have said that external

hard drive support is coming. Not to mention,

it's really easy to swap out the hard drive in

it anyways. But it wipes your data when you switch

them, and I know you can back it up, but that's

just a pain in the ass game to plug the old drive

in. See, I did it really early, before I started

buying a bunch of games. I dropped a hybrid drive

in there. So I don't have to worry about that

anymore. But I just I like the simplicity of

it. I do not like the Xbox one dashboard. I think

it's convoluted and hard to figure out what you're

doing. The PlayStation four is an evolution of

the XMB, and it's it still works and and it's

just faster. It's all around. It's faster than

the PlayStation three, which makes it a lot easier

to get around and find what you're doing. And

with the most recent update, you can actually

sort things now. Yep They just they keep improving

they've improved it they've improved it and they

and they've been able to do that because they

haven't had to backpedal like Microsoft has they've

been able to keep pushing the system forward

The only thing I will knock the PlayStation 4

for and I know Dodd you said you like the PlayStation

4's twitch app The one thing I prefer over the

PlayStation 4 is twitch app or the Xbox one's

twitch app or PlayStation 4 is that if I want

to view comments on the xbox one the comments

don't show up in my stream the playstation 4

if i want to view comments at the same time i'm

playing those comments show up in your stream

too i don't i i like being able to see what's

being said i i do too but i don't think that

i don't think that needs to be broadcast to the

people that are watching is what i'm saying okay

okay i read you but that that said i'm really

i got really excited when they added in the um

party chat to be allowed into the uh the Twitch

stream, which has been a lot of fun. So I, yeah,

I might, anyways, long story short, I chose PlayStation

4 first and I would choose it again in a heartbeat.

All right, Steve, that means we got a tie. One

thing I just want to drop in, I would have bought

a PlayStation 4 first if they'd had a competitive

fighter right out of the game. That's one thing

Xbox One has. That's probably just subjective

to me because I love killer and I love fighting

games and the expo and the ps4 only really has

Injustice as far as I know I can't think of any

other maybe dive kicker skull girls, but I'm

not sure And it sucks that ultra Street Fighter

4 wasn't ported Yet yet I friggin hope so mad

because if then then I get my ps4 fight stick

see you later Alright Steve we got a tie going

for this one between the ps4 and the Xbox one

I know you don't have either of them if you were

given Pile of cash and you were able to drop

it on one. Which one would you buy? Like lazy

people on Xbox one I'm just saying I'm almost

going to go Xbox One just because I like the

Xbox structure more than I like the PlayStation

One at this point. Alright, living on the edge.

Alright, just tallying up some stuff while we

get to our final overall category which we always

end wars with a non -distinct category which

is looking at the overall... Categories that

we're comparing. So if you're just comparing

Xbox and PlayStation, which do you prefer? What's

the better company overall given all the different

categories? We've talked about in the all the

other categories that we could have talked about

What company do you prefer Steve PlayStation

or Xbox? Xbox one vote for Xbox dad Xbox and

it mostly just comes down to all the support

they've given the competitive scene Over the

years and it gave me Master Chief as much as

I love Ellie and Joel I'll always be Spartan

117 And Michael Powers, I think I know where

you're voting but let's just say it you think

you know No, I'm serious. I'm gonna go And this

is mmm, okay, I'm gonna go with Microsoft And

here's why Yes, I'm going Microsoft just because

the other two did no I'm going with Microsoft

because I've been listening to a lot of older

podcasts from like 2006 when the when the ps3

first came out when it was ramping up and stuff

like that and I heard there was a lot of talk

about There was a shift in the mentality of Sony

as a platform holder. They went from being a

platform holder and supporting third parties

to being a platform holder and supporting their

own games. And that is evident by the how great

games like Last of Us and Uncharted and such

an infamous look on their system versus other

games, you know, cross -platform games. Basically

what happened from the PS2 to the PS3, Sony stopped

supporting third -party developers. They were

on their own to make games work on their system.

The architecture wasn't that friendly either.

Exactly, and they weren't willing to... To help

they helped a little bit with middleware, but

beyond that it was like you're on your own If

you can't make it work, you can't make it work

You know, we'll deal with a game running at 30

frames a second over 60 on one system and that

to me that speaks volumes about them and I I

feel like I want to say they've turned that corner

and they've started they might be they at least

made hardware that was easier to develop for

this generation and The games that have been

cross -platform over the last year which it sounds

like it that trend just broke with Assassin's

Creed unity The game games have cross -platform

games have run better on the ps4 than they have

on the Xbox one Now I don't know if that's because

the hardware is easier to develop for or because

Sony is actually going out there now again and

helping developers, you know make things work

better, but if if I'm And there's no, I have

no evidence to support that they are. So if I

assume that they're not, and we both know, we

all know there's still a platform holder with

strong first party titles, I gotta give it to

Microsoft because Microsoft's still out there.

You know, they went out there last generation

with the 360 and they were helping these third

party developers make better games. They helped

with the marketing for these games and made them

synonymous with the 360 and their. While they're

trying to clean up their image with the Xbox

one. They're doing a really good job of that

But and their marketing has died down their their

help with their party marketing has died down,

but I Just feel like they I feel like they treat

they might not be as gamer forward as Sony is

this this one But they I still feel like they

they they care about the quality of the games

on their system so I said the two generations

and again, I have no proof that Sony is helping

or not helping third party developers. But because

I don't have one either way or the other, I'm

just going to go with Microsoft because they

care about the games. Interesting. We've had

a lot of different firsts so far in the life

of GCN wars. Few episodes back we had our first

tie that we had to have the listeners help us

out But I don't think I've ever seen this before

where we get to the the overall Who is the better

company which is what we've basically been debating

over the course of the whole episode and We've

had a unanimous all three debaters go with a

company that Does not win overall if we actually

go by the categories that we were talking about.

So not to kill the drumroll moment, but the winner

based on the category votes overall is PlayStation

by an eight to six margin. Even though all three

people voted Xbox as the overall better company,

I've never seen that happen before. So yeah,

eight categories for PlayStation. Obviously they

dominated a lot of the games categories, so maybe

that had part to do with it. They also won when

it came to the PS2 versus Xbox, the PS3 versus

Xbox 360, the online experience, and a bunch

of the different games in the character library,

whereas Xbox had the sports games, controllers,

the Kinect. Xbox One versus PS4 and the overall

vote so 8 to 6 it goes to PlayStation and if

you're going by individual votes it's 26 to 18

PlayStation. So PlayStation wins in both of the

voting metrics even though all three of you voted

as Xbox as the overall better company. Final

thoughts before we wrap this one up Steve? It's

kind of surprising overall that we all basically

chose Xbox. Out in the the ending point of it,

but Can't say I'm surprised that it won in that

terms, but I can't I'm not surprised either that

PlayStation 1 is the overall actual winner Final

thoughts powers Just just to back up I you know

thought about it again with my overall better

company You know going with Microsoft it just

you know regardless of whether or not Sony's

helping developers this generation over last

generation. They have done something, you know,

to prove that they are willing to go along with

what gamers say or what gamers want. Is that

last year with the 360 and the PS3, Sony came

out with a $600 machine and, you know, everyone

scoffed at it very, you know, it was slow to

take off. But they didn't change. They just kept.

They just kept beating that drum. It's like,

you know what? We're gonna make the content.

We're gonna make the games. You're gonna buy

this system at, you know, whatever price we tell

you to buy it at. You know, this generation that

we're in now, Microsoft came out with a completely

wrong message. The gamers didn't like it. They

got really vocal. They didn't understand, you

know, the connect needing to be bundled. They

didn't understand the need for always on DRM,

always on internet connections. And Microsoft,

like, listened to that. And, like, backpedaled

on it like they're granted Sony came out the

gate with the right message they didn't have

to do anything differently but it just seems

like they're more willing to they're more willing

to make compromises it's more like Microsoft

is being Microsoft and I feel like Sony is kind

of taking takes more of a an Apple like stance

when it comes to their hardware where apple's

kind of like you know what we made it this way

this is how it's going to work and you're going

to like it and if you don't like it you're not

going to buy it we don't really care whereas

microsoft's kind of like oh we made this operating

system but you want the start menu back okay

well in the next update we're going to put the

start menu back in there rather than trying to

innovate they're just kind of like stuck in this

perpetual state of they can't do anything because

no one wants them to do anything different but

they're willing to stay there for whatever reason

So I did that's kind of one reasons why you know

I I like that they were I wish them Microsoft

would have done what they original vision for

the Xbox one But they didn't I wish they would

have done that I really do so we can all see

what it was but they didn't and I don't know

I still think they're I I think there's a better

company because they're more willing to work

with their fans Than Sony who's just kind of

like this is how it's like Sony's very Apple.

It's like this is the hardware we made this is

the price point we put it at and you're gonna

like it it worked for them with the ps it worked

with them for them with the playstation it worked

with them for the playstation 2 and it's working

for the playstation 4 they just tripped up with

the playstation 3 and i think it was just because

of that six hundred dollar price point fair enough

i like the way you're arguing that uh birdman

what do you think our final thoughts on how this

all shaped out and what you think over all the

companies real quick Owning both consoles is

a lot of fun. It gives me a lot of variety in

my gaming experience, and both have their pros

and cons that we've discussed over the last,

like, hour and change. I like the fact that Microsoft

listens to fans. If there's a problem, they'll

do what they can. They always have a person on

Twitter willing to talk to you, Major Nelson,

and any public event will always hang out with

you. I had a conversation with him at PAX 2012.

I really like the Xbox brand Sony They're getting

there and I really think they're gonna have some

fantastic game if games like infamous and the

last of us are any indication I could stop gotta

watch their ass. Well, let's not forget about

Uncharted here I mean not sure but see the last

of us is a game that made me cry and depressed

me for days a Microsoft title outside of probably

anything that's that that's cross -platform hasn't

done that and I really give props to the storytellers

at Sony so Sony they've got the market lead right

now in terms of out selling Xbox and I hope that

leads to bigger better games across both consoles

as Microsoft tries to catch up and Sony tries

to increase this lead I hope it leads to innovations

and storytelling and gaming and if you have the

capability to own both consoles do it You're

less likely to argue if you own both of them,

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