PlayStation vs. Xbox – Console Battle

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host and joining me for this war is steve megatron

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All right. So today we're gonna tackle an interesting

and polarizing geek argument specifically in

the video game realm, which is ultimately better

PlayStation or Xbox so this is the The tip off

to a bunch of video game coverage that we'll

be doing here in the coming months and year.

So just before we get to the actual categories

that we have broken down, because we're going

to go over 15 categories. And for those of you

that don't know, On GCR and wars, we go category

by category. We kind of give our thoughts, our

ideas on what would be better. And then we each

cast a vote as to which side ultimately wins.

And then by the end, we'll tally up the votes

in the 15 categories and crown an actual winner.

This is not one of the actual categories. But

for example, we might say. Who has the better

name who has the better logo? You know, those

are things we've used in the past but we have

some video game specific ones looking at PlayStation

and Xbox Birdman before we start just initial

thoughts that comparing these two these two companies

Well, it all comes down to brand marketing for

me because I've got a background in public relations

and I always look at which company has worked

with the public the most and Out of the gate,

I would say Xbox might be the better company,

but I don't know if that holds up necessarily

on the software end, but maybe on legacy? It's

hard to argue with the success of a franchise

juggernaut like Halo, but PlayStation has a huge

advantage because of three letters. G -T -A.

And that was an exclusive to them for a very

long time. but also kind of hurt them in terms

of controversy. While it endeared them to the

gamer, it didn't endear them to the public. You're

going to find more people empathetic to Master

Chief as opposed to Tommy Versetti or Nico Belling.

Steve, how do you view this and kind of what's

your stance or what was your take going into

this before we actually look at the categories

and how one category might break down compared

to another? Just in general, what do you think

of the two in your personal experience? I like

them both, but for different reasons. Some of

them being gaming, some of them being some of

the reasons we'll get into later, but I've owned,

I've played the PlayStation, I've owned a PlayStation

2, I've played the PS3, I've played the original

Xbox, I own the 360, so I mean, in that sense,

I have enjoyed what I've used of them, but I...

Don't know it's gonna kind of be a toss -up of

which one I overall choose We'll have to see

as we go through based on these 15 categories

what it ends up being for you Mr. Powers there.

I just like calling you mr. Powers. I don't know

why that's fine How do you tackle this without

actually breaking down the categories looking

at it from a personal standpoint from a personal

standpoint? I'm just gonna come right out the

gate and you know, I am a PlayStation fanboy

I have been since 1997. It pushed that fandom

pushed me away from the original Xbox, which

I did not hurt my gaming culture in any way,

shape or form. But I do have I have strong opinions

on, you know, on the Xbox brand and the PlayStation

brand as a whole. I try to play the middle of

the field because I have both. I'm not one of

the people that needs to, you know, I don't make

a purchase and then have to justify my purchase

to the mass public in. Arguments I can see the

the faults and the the advantages in both systems,

but I am a died -in -the -wool Sony fanboy. I

will always go with their console first over

over competitors for better or worse, so All

right. Well, it sounds like we have one person

who initially thinks some positive things about

Xbox one person on PlayStation side one person

down the middle I'm not saying that's like how

it's going to play out from initial comments.

I am going to be more of listening to who has

the better argument. I have much less experience

with these games. I'm just mainly here to facilitate

the conversation and cast a vote on which side

has made a better argument. I guess I'd be called

a... a Nintendo fanboy maybe? I don't even know

if that's accurate though. I'm much more of an

old school iconic like Commodore 64, the Intellivision,

and some of the original Nintendo stuff. I've

not been in the gaming community much in the

last decade so that kind of eliminates me from

a lot of the Xbox PlayStation talk. Mr. Dennis,

what do you like better? I'm gonna have to be

the weird one and go with Sega. Just, you just

had to be strange, didn't you? Yep. Well, if

we're not gonna take this seriously, then neither

am I. Go get a Matari. But, uh... We will break

it down, mainly keep it focused on Xbox and PlayStation

going forward. Our first category is looking

at basically which company has had the more iconic

or notable or the best characters overall. So

if you think about PlayStation, you know, and

you think about which characters from the PlayStation

world come to your mind, and then you do the

same thing with Xbox. Which group of characters

stands out more to you? Do you like better? And

kind of go from there. Birdman, since you started

with the initial thoughts, why don't you start

with this one? Which company has had the better

library of characters? Just characters. Doesn't

matter if they're in crappy games, good games,

or what type of games. We're talking pretty much

exclusive to the particular console, right? Well,

I mean, it somewhat defeats the purpose of the

characters appeared in both unless they were

more of a staple maybe at one and then later

on it kind of filtered to both. But I can kind

of let you go with and we'll see where we go.

I would argue that PlayStation, because you look

at the success they've had with the Grand Theft

Auto franchise, which was exclusive to them for

a really long time. You would look at stuff like,

say, the Metal Gear series with, you know, Solid

Snake and all them. this past console generation,

you've had Nathan Drake, you've had Kratos, you've

had Ellie and Joel from The Last of Us. In terms

of Xbox exclusive franchises, their only really

huge contribution, as far as I'm concerned, is

Master Chief from the Halo franchise, but arguably,

Halo has entered, it's pretty much, it's part

of pop culture slang, like, whenever you talk

about a first -person shooter, the first thing

you think about is Call of Duty or Halo. And

Call of Duty is available on both consoles, for

example, but you think of a COD player, you think

of Xbox Live. You don't necessarily think of

the PC players, for better or worse, or the PlayStation

players, or basically PlayStation players in

general. You always think of the Xbox Live frat

boy douchebag. Which sucks. Hell, I'm loving

Advanced Warfare right now, my god. But, I'm

honestly gonna have to say PlayStation. They've

made more memorable characters from franchises.

Also, how can I miss Ratchet and Clank? Stuff

like that to Jack and Daxter. There's so many

memorable characters on that side. Like I said,

Microsoft, not the Master Chief, but you also

have a marketing juggernaut there. The halo nightfall

TV series which should be out by now. We've had

halo forward unto dawn Halo movies been rumored

forever. There's supposed to be a halo TV series.

I think I'm showtime the next year or two I don't

know but judging purely on library exclusive

alone Playstations got this one hands down Michael

what would you add to what other characters haven't

we talked about these throw in that would that

would weigh on either side Well, first of all,

he's not wrong. He's Sony I mean, they were around

for one generation longer than the Xbox was,

than Microsoft was. So, I mean, they're stable

of characters. They own the most iconic characters

out of these two. And honestly, I would hesitate

to, I mean, there's an argument to be made. It

could possibly be, I mean, stable number of iconic

characters. They could have the more than the

most out of the three companies. But better no,

but the most yes I have to agree with them. It's

the it's the PlayStation because I when I think

of When I think of an Xbox the only thing that

I can think of that's actually exclusive to them

is halo and it's weird for a system that's been

around for 13 years to only have one like IP

that is there that they're known for they've

had like lots of little like false stars and

stuff, but Halo is the only one that's like latched

on, and luckily it's been able to transcend developers,

which usually doesn't happen. I guess you could

make an argument for Gears of War. You know what?

Yeah. Not so much. Well, they own Gears now,

so I guess you could say that, but Gears is not

the same thing as Halo. And we'll see how that

transcends developers. And more people can name

Master Chief as opposed to Marcus Fenix. Yeah,

are we missing any other characters that are

that are you don't have note from the PlayStation

side? I know you guys mentioned Ratchet and Clank

Jack and Daxter Sly Cooper You could throw in

I I would I wouldn't hesitate to throw in Crash

Bandicoot Yeah Spyro, I mean they aren't they

don't belong to Sony anymore. They actually belong

to Universal now or I'm sorry Activision But

I they started out as Sony franchises in fact

Crash Bandicoot was Naughty Dogs. So Resistance

is another one. They also have Killzone Pretty

much Yep, but even yeah, so no, it's it's alright

I I'm on Sony side firmly on this one. Yeah,

Steve. Are you in agreement? Is this one gonna

be like a unanimous category where it's easy

to pick? I think so. I mean Xbox doesn't really

have that much going for it in this area. I think

Sony's really gonna slam dunk it. I mean they

have Final Fantasy, they have all the Mega Man

X series. Well, Mega Man X started on the Super

Nintendo. It did, but then when it went to disc

-based, it went right to PlayStation. It didn't

go to Sega, you know, of any time. It stayed

exclusive to PlayStation after it jumped ship

from Nintendo, so... There's that, and then you

have your Namco Konami type games that pop up.

So I'd definitely say PlayStation wins this slam

dunk. All right, well then there's not much of

a need to go any further with the characters

since that one would solidify it for PlayStation.

Now we're going to get into some games for a

little while. We'll eventually talk Generations

and we'll talk some other things, but we're going

to do a good number of game categories in a row.

I think about five in a row or six in a row.

We'll get into the more specific types of games,

but in the first category, I just want to go

over diversity of their library as it speaks.

This could be, you know, something that would

have a wide appeal, you know, which company has...

Has done a better job having a very large and

diverse library of games because I know that's

one thing that sometimes certain consoles can

get to get criticized for And not just not enough

games or who it's not just about who has more

games, but who has a more diverse Collection

in their library, I guess And Michael power to

let you go first on this one Who has a better

library? I know PlayStation's been around a little

bit longer, but I mean even if you were to Look

at the ones that were directly competing against

each other and in those years Maybe if that's

a fair way to look at it. Well, let's be honest

here I mean Microsoft's the only console out

there that had the Burger King games on them.

So It's gotta go to Microsoft because they had

the most they have those that's four games Sony

will never have No, I I I Don't know. This is

this is kind of weird because you have to look

at a lot of franchises got their start from Sony.

And there wasn't a whole lot of deviation in

terms of GTA was a Sony franchise. Final Fantasy

was a Sony franchise until the PS3 hit and it

wasn't the, you know, Sony realized they couldn't

sell a $600 box to people. And when that happened,

those developers were like, wait, OK, now we

need to break exclusivity and make this game

for multiple platforms. So. As far as more diverse

games go, I. They pretty much have the same if

you're comparing like. I don't know, this is

really tricky. I think they have the same the

same diversity in games, because, you know, if

you know. If. Xbox has halo PlayStation has kill

zone. So that's like both a shooter. I mean,

they pretty much they've got their pros whatever

the devil's advocate to each game that they make

and I don't know I I honestly would think that

that's a tie because I think you can find just

about anything you want on each system if you

want a racing game on The 360 you go with force

of you want a racing game on a PlayStation system.

You go with grant Gran Turismo. It's I think

if this was just on volume, on number of games,

I think that would be a different conversation

and probably an easier one. A little more black

and white. Working at somewhere that sold games

for nine years and working directly in that department,

we always had more shelf space dedicated to PlayStation.

than any of the other video game companies. They

just had more games available. So if it was just

strictly on a number of games, that would be

one thing. But I guess if we're talking diversity,

it could be easier to find a similar standpoint

from both companies. Dodd, do you agree or do

you think one has a better... I would actually

disagree because Xbox has one huge advantage

over PlayStation here, Xbox Live. When you look

at all the downloadable titles available there,

plus with the Kinect sensor having, I think,

a year and a half lead over the PlayStation Move,

plus Kinect development was active a lot longer

than PlayStation Move development was. I mean,

they really dropped the ball on that attack.

What really sucks is I thought it was really

good, just underutilized. You look at music games,

for example. PlayStation started. that genre

and arguably they had more available because

they had They had the Guitar Hero series, there

was American Idol, they had Sing Star which DDR

4 version, yeah DDR, DJ Hero, Rock Band and even

lesser known ones. But Xbox Live opened up indie

development where you could purchase games from

Any developers and there's so much weird variety

on there, but those ones are all But the problem

is those games are all now available on the PlayStation

Not not all them What and that's the thing though?

It took Sony so long to open up the PlayStation

Network development kits So so people could program

games for PlayStation and if you look at indie

titles on PlayStation compared to Xbox at least

on the 360 Can you name one? Off the top of my

head, no. Off the top of my head, but early on,

Microsoft had them beat hands down. Now that

being said, PlayStation is doing more now with

their Vita in independent platforms than I've

seen any company take a risk with in a really

long time. And PlayStation would win handheld

without a doubt outside of the 3DS. Because there

was talk of a Microsoft handheld for a while,

but we'll talk about that later. I also think

of all the different Kinect games. Like, for

example, on my Xbox One right now, I have a game

called Fantasia Music Evolved. I don't know whether

that's out on PlayStation 4. I'm pretty sure

it's not. It's not, but then it's... I mean,

that game had... I don't know. I just don't count

that as a game. It's... great. It's friggin'

fantastic. Plus, I like the fact that you can

do different things... With the PlayStation or

no place it with the Xbox one for example Both

systems have cameras PlayStation 4 in the Xbox

one. I'm playing a game called Just Dance 2015

right now. I Can play with my cell phone? Using

it as a motion sensor just kind of using it kind

of like how PlayStation 4 would use it as you

know their PlayStation thing so If I had to say

better diversity, I'm gonna say Microsoft, because

I think they took a risk longer, and you look

at the amount of Kinect games it had, for better

or worse, compared to PlayStation Move, I think

Microsoft takes it, but just barely. Steve, what

about you? I don't know, I'm kind of in agreement

with that, but at the same time, I would almost

argue that PlayStation has more of a diverse...

I mean, you have all the sports games, you have

all the music stuff. Granted, you know, it's

not... They're all cross -platform. Yeah, I mean,

everything is cross -platform, but, you know,

one, they've been around an entire generation

longer. Two, it seems like PlayStation seems

to get the longest running as far as constant

releases, even on their older generation systems.

Because their libraries for all of them are huge,

by comparison to Xbox. I think it's cheaper to

license on PlayStation as well. Which it may

be entirely, but it just seems like their library

is so large that... It's almost hard to beat.

I would almost argue that they're the number

one in diversity just because they have the large

library. I mean, you have the first -person shooters,

you have the sports, you have the music, you

have the adventure, you have the kind of RPG

type stuff, you have your almost side -scroller,

like with the Mega Man type stuff, you have...

You have some kind of kiddish games on it, but

not not to the extent that some of the the motion

stuff is but it's It's it's there see in the

thing sorry to interrupt Steve But when you're

talking about the motion controls, and we're

talking about diversity in games I don't really

think the connect gives the 360 that much of

a or Microsoft that much of a leg up because

I feel like Yeah, the connect is a completely

different technology set than the move, but there

is still They both still have the same set of

games. You can get just dance on the playstation

and you can get it But you can't get dance central

So it's it's still one dancing games the same

as the next it's the same thing It's like I said,

you can get forza on on microsoft system or you

can get grand or grand turismo on a playstation

system It's the same type of game like just because

they have a different name doesn't make one more

diverse than the other That's what i'm talking

about because I mean in in I mean I'm not even

going to count as far as the the motion part

is concerned because that's a later category

in this but I would just argue that overall I

would say that I think PlayStation has the more

diverse better library only because one they've

been around longer and two it just it seems like

they just have the more memorable association

with some of those games even though some of

them may be cross -platform It seems like people

associate them more so with PlayStation than

they do with Xbox. I think this is probably the

hardest thing to compare of these two companies,

mainly because I think this is what has made

both of them as successful as they are. This

is, I think, the biggest complaint that, and

this is coming from someone who obviously loves

Nintendo, but that's the biggest complaint or

biggest argument for a PlayStation or an Xbox

over a Nintendo is the diversity that their libraries

give you. Maybe not as true today as it was maybe

a decade ago, but I know when stuff like GameCube

and especially in the original Wii when that

came out, You know, the lack of diversity was

something that people argued against Nintendo.

I know Nintendo doesn't have anything to do with

this, but my point is that's something that Xbox

and PlayStation both do pretty well, is give

you a very diverse, large body of games to choose

from that can appeal to a lot of people. That's

why I think, you know, Michael is right in a

lot of sense where, you know... They both have

their racing games, they both have their sports

games, they both have their different types of

fighting games, etc. So it gets harder to compare

it. I don't know if PlayStation just wins based

on the number of games they have, and maybe their

library is larger? I'd say it comes down to downloadable

stuff. Because Xbox has it so much larger, plus

that community is always actively developing.

Defined a lot of indie games on PlayStation 4

there aren't that many I don't know that I can't

get behind that one because I can't any notable

any notable Indie game that isn't garbage is

on both systems Oh, yeah, but they may have got

their start on Xbox, but still it's one that

same game is available on the PlayStation That

doesn't make the Microsoft more diverse because

they had it first that's available on both Xbox

stop listening. Sorry. I'm using my connect right

now I Think this is a tough one Steve you you're

looking like you're leaning towards a vote for

PlayStation Yeah, and I believe Birdman if I'm

hearing right you're voting Xbox on this And

powers that you were kind of on the fence, which

way are you going? That's a great that's a great

connect promo Yes. Shut up! Did it do it? Oh,

well clearly I'm still talking. I hate you. Powers,

which way do you think you're going? See, I think

it's equal. I don't think one has a more diverse

library than the other. But because, I'll give

this to Dodd because there is one game that I

can think of in the Xbox indie library that is

not on the PlayStation. One. Only one. And that

is Super Meat Boy. All right, so I'll give it

to Microsoft. OK, many smash keyboards. It might

be a little bit easier as we get into some specific

types of games and genres, and I know there's

a gazillion different genres of games and types

of games, and there's some kind of blurry lines

as to what. Separate some of them, but we'll

try to do this the best we can I think it's a

little bit easier once you start looking at it

because even though you said like Just for an

example like you said, you know one might have

forza for a racing game on one where the other

has Gran Turismo That doesn't mean we can't compare

those two and say which one is better. That's

not necessarily one of the Examples will be using

but that's the type of stuff we're getting into

now So even though they both have games that

speak to that type of genre, which one does that

type of game better? and the first one is we're

going for more of the kids games like the Earlier

aged games maybe educational maybe not but as

far as if you were trying to define it as kids

games Which company does kids games better and

we'll start with powers on this one Can I put

a vote in for Nintendo? Yes, Nintendo would win

this and a couple other categories hands down.

But we'll try to avoid that as much as possible.

We were going to put in the which does better

handheld units and just give it to Nintendo.

But they're not a competitor in this one. So

out of PlayStation and Xbox, which one does kids

games better? Man, that's tough. One because

I'm not a parent and so I have I have never looked

at. Kids games. I just kind of treat all games

as equal. I mean I will play a kid's I will play

a Lego game You know if it's you know if it's

fun Well, I know you were mentioning some characters

before like You know rationing clank and sly

and you know no I okay Thank you for for that

because I don't for some reason I again. I don't

think of these as like kids I think of them as

games that I play Yeah Again, it comes back to

what Microsoft is known for and it's like it's

sports. It's before it's it's Call of Duty It's

it like Dodd said it's the the frat boy in in

all of us. That's like, you know, that's what

a Microsoft system is known for Granted we haven't

seen well, no Russian clank and sly are still

around so I I went on a Given that and I haven't

seen anything outside of like Viva pinata or

connect sports or connect adventures Recently

and that's all recent with the uh with the advent

of the connect but i don't think those games

stack up to like sly and ratchet and clank so

i'm gonna go with playstation died argument against

or for i would be in agreement yeah because xbox

really only has viva piñata and maybe a few other

small games, because everything else is pretty

much cross -platform. I can't think of any exclusive

children. OK, no way. There was a Disney adventure

for Kinect for the 360. I think that was two

years ago. Yep, it was. A lot of those Kinect

games, though, as far as the... Disney one wasn't

bad. I tried that out at a press event a couple

years ago. It's not bad, but on actual use because

my wife wanted it just because we played a lot

of the mini games and a lot of that kind of stuff.

It's ungodly difficult to control because you

have to move your arms like above your head and

behind your back to move forward and sideways

and... Yeah, the 360 Kinect technology just wasn't

there yet, arguably with the one it's getting

there. So yeah, honestly, I'd have to agree with

Mike there. The PlayStation just has a wider

variety, although I'd argue Viva Pinata is a

lot of fun, but it's not the other games that

are meant for everybody. Steve, unanimous on

this one or is there an argument that we haven't

heard for Xbox? I think it's going to be unanimous

only because there's a lot of it's just cross

-platform and there's a couple of uniques to

PlayStation that Xbox doesn't have but I don't

think that Xbox really... I don't think that

it really is any less... kid friendly but I don't

think that it really has the the amount of uh

games that playstation has for it in fairness

to this I'm still I'm not changing my side or

anything but I feel like just the way the xbox

marketing is it's very much you know like I said

it's the frat boy it's they don't it's all dude

bro Yeah, they don't market their kids games.

No, they market towards the 18 to 35. It's almost

like Nintendo directly gears towards the younger

audience. Xbox intentionally gears towards the

older audience. And PlayStation attempts to do

both, in a way. Not saying that it doesn't gear

a lot of them towards a told him towards an older

audience But it doesn't necessarily shy away

from the kids maybe as much as Xbox seems to

But that's coming from someone who's very ignorant

on this topic. So I maybe just sound stupid Um,

but it seems like we have a unanimous vote for

PlayStation when it comes to kids games Let's

flip it to the other side of the equation then

and we're talking about exclusively Mature ratings

on games mature or above. I don't know if there

isn't above mature rating. Does it go? Okay,

so as far as like the mature reading games for

strictly for adults Which system does that better

and I don't have any knowledge about these games

whatsoever or who has better ones? I'll you guys

got to educate me here. So dad wanting to start

on that one I'm trying to think here. Once again,

there's a lot of cross -platform Right, but I

think PlayStation once again takes this because

you look at they have Resident Evil for the longest

time It was exclusive. I mean, I'm sure the reports

of the Dreamcast and the GameCube later on but

You look at the mature games that were good.

A lot of them came out of PlayStation Xbox I

think of Halo I think of Gears of War I Guess

you can make I think that warrior was T for teen

I don't know whether it's M for mature or not

off the top of my head. Is Halo even M? I'm being

serious. Yes. Yeah, okay. Okay. Yeah I can't

think of why, but okay. Well, if there is blood,

you can blow people up, so. Oh, okay. Well, there's

like, yeah, Mass Effect and Unreal Tournament.

Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, I think... Yeah, I mean,

and especially last console generation, and even

this one, you look at a game like The Last of

Us as a console exclusive, if there ever was

a really good use of the M rating, that's it.

It's the gorgeous game inside and out. How many

Grand Theft Auto games were exclusive to PlayStation,

or are they all available in both? They're all

cross -platform now. Nope. Oh, well, I guess

Liberty City Stories and Vice City Stories, right?

Well, I'm sorry. Yeah, you're right. I was also

thinking of Grand Theft Auto and Grand Theft

Auto 2, which haven't appeared on anything else.

But those have all had mature ratings, I assume?

I think so. Yeah, all the Grand Theft Auto's

have. And I think all the Metal Gears have an

M as well. Yep. I'm not a hundred percent sure

on that one, so don't quote me on that. All of

those outside of Revengeance have been Sony exclusives.

Yeah. So, Towers, are you supporting? No, Metal

Gear Sons of Liberty was ported. Oh. Well, it

was ported in the HD collection last year. And

Twin Snakes. Yeah, and Twin Snakes. Never mind.

I'm an idiot. But initially, yeah, I think PlayStation

gets it. Plus, you look at the weird, mature

fighting games that come out on over there, too.

Over there. Over there on the PlayStation. On

left field. Oh, yeah, honestly, I mean, I can't

I mean, sure, there's a lot of bad M rated game,

but there's also some real gems to another one.

That's a PlayStation exclusive. I'm pretty sure

still is. is the legacy of kane series yeah stuff

like that and xbox don't have that i think they

might have something now but i'm not sure how

is our reader even m rated yeah i think it is

yeah it is the new one is for sure um i know

the new one is are we missing anything on the

xbox side no that's the thing if you and i'm

glad we're doing this if you keep it just strictly

exclusives, like if you take out Mass Effect,

you take out Fallout and Assassin's Creed and

stuff like that, Sony's gonna win a lot of these

hands down when you're talking about games because

they have the better exclusives in a lot of respects.

And a lot of the exclusives tend to be immature

rated games. So I'm gonna go with Sony. All right,

Steve, what do you think? In agreement again,

do we have another? I can't argue with their

points. Alright, then looks like another clean

sweep for PlayStation with the mature games will

switch to a different genre a few more to go

through here if we're looking at RPGs and Anything

within that realm which again you guys are more

educated than I am on all the different variations

of different types of RPGs Is there a clear winner

in this one again, or is it closer? I will say

I I'm I'll just jump in here I will throw Final

Fantasy 7 and I'll throw out the Kingdom Hearts

series and sony wins both of those yeah i'm just

gonna i'm gonna go ahead with something on this

one one of the things that sony has an advantage

with they get a lot of jrpg's that necessarily

don't make it over here or they only get released

on one console so that's kind of what i was going

after yeah i mean like In terms of really good

RPGs, but the thing is, once again, it's cross

-platform, because I could have argued Mass Effect

and Skyrim. Skyrim runs like shit on a PlayStation

3 when you run it on an Xbox 360. A comparison,

but Mass Effect, I think, is one of the best

games of this generation, but PlayStation never

got Knights of the Old Republic, whereas Xbox

did. So Bioware clearly has a bias. And Dragon

Age is an exclusive. No, Dragon Age is not an

exclusive. No it is not. As far as I know. Yeah,

that's what I thought. Well, okay. Oh wait, hang

on. I think Dragon Age and Dragon Age 2 might

be? I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure I've seen them

for the PlayStation 3. But are three BioWare

games enough to trump Square Enix's library of

RPGs? I don't know. Final Fantasy XIII, Lightning

Returns, and all that bullshit. Well, you've

got games to talk to 13 series there's a lot

to turn me off but I think PlayStation would

get this again because of J RPGs There's so many

as there's a lot of underrated gems there, too

Plus when you look at the PlayStation Network,

you can go back and get Chrono Trigger You can

go back and get other games that had appeared

that had appeared on older consoles But you can't

get that on Xbox public service announcement

Please no one play Krone Trigger on a PlayStation

system. Play it on a Super Nintendo or a Nintendo

DS. Do not. But it's cool to see the cutscenes,

though. You can do that. I can get those on the

DS version, I think. Yes. No, you just watch

them on YouTube when you get in between those

points. So, yeah. All right. I'm going to have

to see a PlayStation. JRPG wins this. Steve,

agree or no? I agree. It's becoming a broken

record. God damn it, Xbox, you're supposed to

make this easier. I know, I love Xbox too and

that's the sad thing. Maybe we'll switch with

this next genre. Only two more ones as far as

actual games there. And the next one could also

include some of the stuff that we were talking

about, I guess, before with the racing. Sports

or or you can widen it up We're not just talking

about obviously the ones that are going to be

on both of them like Madden is always going to

be available in both etc but even if you widen

it out to include racing to include I don't know

if there's you know different boxing or MMA type

games or even I guess some of the connect and

move might have some like Like something similar

to like what we sports has etc So if you're looking

at sports games in general or how you define

sports games might be a big factor in how you

rule the genre, where would you go with sports

games, Dodd? Well, if we're, are we, and you

said we're including racing? If you, if that's

sports, if that is it, when you think of sports,

if you include that? Yeah, that screams sports

to me, so it's hard to say because Gran Turismo

is really good, but Forza looks amazing year

to year. Then again, so does Gran Turismo. Don't

know. I don't think you can really Are there

any of the mains or are there any of like if

you've taken like football baseball? I know basketball

games are usually terrible But if you take football

baseball and basketball games, are there any

that are not cross -platform? No It used to be

a thing where like all -star baseball was only

on PlayStation or whatever. I don't that might

be a bad example PlayStation has MLB The show

yeah, they have the baseball game That's the

only baseball game isn't it now it is Yes, that

is the only baseball game I think PlayStation

also kind of covers all the other sports it whereas

I think Microsoft covers Or with the Xbox they

cover like the the main sports You know you have

your racing you have your you know your your

football hockey basketball that kind of stuff,

but you don't really have Think there's much

of the other the sports one might have been easier

to compare in the earlier consoles because I

Wasn't it more of a thing when they both were

starting where they had exclusive? Companies

that were doing sports games for each and it

Well, baseball triple play baseball used to that

was across well your what he's talked with the

Dave Mears stuff was cross -platform But you're

talking about nine eight nine studios, which

was Sony sports game They made so many sports

games and then there was 2k who made sports games

for at the time the dreamcast And then they made

the then they made their games only for the Xbox

and then they started making their games for

both systems But 2k the 2k sports brand is gone

now And so is 989 Sports. 2K Sports is still

around. They just put out 2K 15. That horrible

face scan technology that produces monsters.

It's terrifying! I don't follow the sports scene

too well, but they don't have the breadth of

games that they had before. There is no NHL 2K

anymore. Yeah, it's all EA now. Was actually

ready to until we brought up the show MLB the

show on the PlayStation. I was actually ready

to hand this off to Microsoft Well, I was gonna

hand this off to Microsoft because in the early

days of the 360 in the ps3 Microsoft consistently

had the better The better of the two cross -platform

games Add -in traditionally ran at 60 frames

a second for the right out the gate and for the

second year, and the PS3 ran at 30 frames a second.

And in sports and stuff like that, that matters.

So like right up until I realized Sony had the

only baseball game I was ready to give it to

Microsoft on a technicality. I don't know. If

we're going to argue that, then you can look

at PlayStation Network versus Xbox Live for online

play for sports. If we're going to do that, most

of the most of the competitive sports if they're

played online or played on xbox consoles but

if you look at if you take that into account

i'm just i'm just throwing this out there i'm

not disagreeing with you if you take that into

account does that automatically mean that Microsoft

could theoretically win another category here

it depends on how we look at the criteria for

this but MLB the show is a pretty convincing

argument for better sports games. Once again,

it comes down to first -party exclusives. It

only has a lot of really good partnerships. If

you go away from it though, kind of trying to

go off of what you guys were talking about, because

we've been in the habit of just eliminating all

the ones that are available on both consoles,

if you own both a PlayStation console and an

Xbox console, And and you're a football fan per

se or whatever basketball baseball would you

know, and there is a game that's available on

both Which system are you buying it for are you

buying? Because you get a larger player base,

you'll always get the updates first an Xbox live

It does have its fuck -ups, but odds are you'll

have a smooth online experience. With Sony on

the PS3 early on during their sports games, it

was a bitch to find people. So if sports is the

only, let's say you're the type of gamer that

literally sports is the only types of games you're

gonna play, would you buy an Xbox over a PlayStation?

That's so subjective, and I say that because...

I say that because, well, he's saying he could

buy a sports game and play it on the 360 and

he'll have an audience there. Like I could I

could buy the same game and I could have a built

in audience with my friends. Like that's it.

And it's so subjective. That's why I was looking

at like technicalities like it comes down to

it comes down to that. And even talking, even

if you want to talk about who has the better

racing game, you could look at you look at Forza

or you look at Gran Turismo, because those are

the two. marquee racing games for the two of

them even that's subjective like i can't stand

the look of forza but i love the look of grand

turismo however however forza also has two forza

franchises one for the hardcore sim guy and the

other one for like the arcade i just want to

mess mess stuff up and grand turismo has no answer

to that so if you take forza as a franchise and

you take the whole, the technicality of Madden

running better, having better support early on

in the 360's life cycle, I could still give it

to Microsoft. But then again, it depends how

much does baseball matter to you. Steve, what

do you think? Hmm. See, I don't know. I'm almost

going to go Microsoft only for the fact that

I just like... how smooth the games play better

on the console. I also like the controller better

to play certain games. And that's another category

later on too, but that's another thing that kind

of impacts it is that I don't feel the muscle

strain. That could be an argument. I mean, me

personally, I only play, I used to play Madden,

but if it was right now, I would only play baseball

games because that's the only sports games I've

played in the last probably five or six years.

The only place you could get that is the PlayStation.

Right, so I mean, I would be tempted to do that,

but let's say I'm not a baseball fan. If I'm

a sports gaming fan and games run better on Xbox,

which it seems like you guys are saying, at least

in some cases, I don't know if that's enough

to sway me over to that side or not, but see

what you guys come down to when it comes to your

official vote and what weighs mostly towards

one or the other for you. Birdman, if you had

to cast a vote, where are you going for sports

games? I would say, I would say Microsoft simply

because Xbox Live... It's got a better install

base for those types of games. It's easier to

find games there. Once again, that's subjective

on your area, network connections. It's hard

to say it, but I would probably go Xbox. Steve?

Going with you as far as now so you don't have

to just agree. So you can't let them both vote

the same and then take some of your thunder.

As far as what the sports games the sports games

I I'm gonna go Xbox Powers I'm gonna go Microsoft

as well, but I'm not gonna go the subjective

route that Dodd went I'm just gonna go on the

technicalities All right uh... last group of

uh... genres of games i guess we've kind of been

circling around this a lot as we get to the actual

first party games it seems like we already kind

of know where we're going with this but as far

as first party games goes is it a slam dunk for

playstation i don't want to go first yes oh god

there's no arguing with this like i said i love

gear then i love halo but i love the last of

us i love uncharted infamous Infamous yeah fucking

right infamous like man Microsoft you you've

done some amazing things, but All right Steve

do we need to make any arguments here is this

one just to move on to the next one type one

For the first party and everything I'm gonna

go PlayStation only because I like DC Universe

and which is Sony owned and then Various other

games that have already been mentioned. So all

right getting just past the halfway point here

into some Different types of categories we'll

get away from the actual games a little bit and

getting more into the hardware of things and

then some of the other Things that they offer

we've mentioned in a couple different times.

So let's get into it a little bit more when it

goes to Something like the PlayStation Plus or

the Xbox live or a different way of thinking

in it Just if we're looking at online gaming

in general who has the better company and system

when it comes to online gaming or if you want

to just specifically compare playstation plus

and xbox live um michael powers why don't you

start us off with this one i didn't want to go

first because i know that's gonna jump down my

throat that's the fun part of it okay here's

the thing and this this is kind of how i feel

about the the the 360 and xbox live hands down

Total winner there is no comparing Xbox live

on the 360 like none the the way that system

worked was great now the only knock I will give

it is that they up until recently this year all

of their Netflix streaming and all that stuff

was behind the paywall of Xbox live which means

You know with your subscription to Netflix you

also had to pay them You know 50 60 also if you

could find it on special $20 for you know a live

subscription PlayStation Plus never did that

I On the and PlayStation online with the ps3

was a total mess Absolute mess all the way through

the floor Horrid never used it for anything if

I was gonna play an online game in the 360 era

and the ps3 era I played on the 360 net I played

single -player games on the PlayStation As a

subscription service though, I'd enjoy PlayStation

Plus more than live because I feel like they

give you more than live does Especially now since

life took all that stuff out from behind the

paywall like now you're just kind of paying for

online gaming But I feel that along this generation

with the ps4 and the Xbox one given that these

were the two only two generations with online

gaming in them, I feel like the role is reversed,

kind of like how the roles of the PlayStation

4 and the Xbox One have reversed from last generation,

where PlayStation has the right marketing message

going forward, which is like gamers first and

Microsoft came out the gate and it's been backpedaling

ever since trying to rectify their problems.

I can't use Xbox Live on my one without wanting

to throw my controller. I do not like the way

it is set up at all. I just I feel like I can

do things much faster on the PlayStation 4 like

they They knew that they had screwed up the PlayStation

3's online experience so much that they had to

Improve on that and I feel like they did and

I feel like Microsoft just made it more convoluted

Like I still like it on the 360 hated on the

Xbox one I'm just gonna cast my I'll just go

right now because I don't really play my PlayStation

3 anymore And I don't play the Xbox 360 and every

time I turn on my Xbox one I have to wait 45

minutes before I can start playing games however

Yeah, it's called taking 45 minutes to install

a freaking game No, but it's their system and

it's a piece of crap it yeah, okay anyways No

no no hang on no here's the thing I installed

sunset overdrive on my p on my Xbox one It is

a 20 gigabyte game it took me 45 minutes to install

that stupid thing guess what I installed Call

of Duty it took five minutes on my ps4 there

is a problem there Anyways Anyways, I prefer

the ps4 now So i'm just going to go right now

on the ps4 side because they still have all the

value of playstation plus And they've rectified

a lot of their online issues from the ps3 a lot

of them From previous generation xbox 360 hands

down. That's a winner xbox one to ps4 It gets

a little more complicated. It comes down to apps

actually PlayStation 4 doesn't have a shit ton

of them when it comes to using services. One

thing that sways Xbox One for me is Skype. I'm

talking to you in my living room on Skype right

now. PlayStation 4 does not have that. However,

most systems have Twitch streaming, which is

a service where you can stream gameplay. The

Xbox app for that particular service is twitchy

as hell. The PlayStation 4 version never had

a problem with it, never crashes. Xbox One? I

have trouble with it. When it comes to fighting

games, if I want a competitive COD game, I go

Xbox One, because I know that, and you know why?

Because Xbox pays for exclusivity to get the

DLC first. Competitive gaming is almost always

Xbox. Whenever you go to Evo, it's usually Xbox.

Whenever you go to any of the big tournaments,

it's almost always Xbox. Now, it may be certain

for, let's say, fighting games, it's a little

bit different. I prefer my For my stuff on PlayStation

honestly Being stupid There we go But One of

the things PlayStation does right PlayStation

Plus gives you so much crap. Oh My god, they

give you so much play Xbox one has not figured

out good games to give you yet PS4 gives you

two good games across every console, PS3, PS

Vita, and PlayStation 4. So it's kind of subjective

here. Like last generation, it was pretty cut

and dry. This one, they're pretty evenly tied.

I feel like I have a better social experience

on Xbox One, but I have a better gaming experience

with certain titles. See the social experience

I think that's subjective because when I each

system when I turn them on I immediately go into

a party I don't interact with the community and

There's just more of my friends playing on PlayStation

4 so I can jump in a party with eight people

like I'm not You know Xbox one I turn that on

none of my friends have an Xbox one So I could

go either like chat and play a game with eight

people or I can go sit by myself on my Xbox one

and do nothing So that's that's really the whole

social aspect of it. It's kind of to me is kind

of Yeah, I mean for me if I had to bring it down

to a competitive scene Xbox because I want to

play against MLG level players in Halo and the

majority of them are going to be on Xbox Really?

I want to play competitive level killer instinct

Xbox now that being said I want to play competitive

level Street Fighter Probably gonna have to go

PlayStation 3 actually So I don't know if I want

a good caught experience I'm gonna have to go

Xbox. So this one it's tough because I really

like certain things about the PlayStation as

well because The way Xbox live is set up I'm

in Canada. So I can't access some of the US apps

I could if I set up an Xbox account in the US

it had it to my console But it's a pain in the

ass to do just just trust me on this in the exp

for the playstation 4 It's like a two -minute

process bingo bango done. I can access the wwe

network in canada I can access hulu. I can access

hvo all these great services PlayStation makes

it easier this one I'm gonna say playstation

right now. You get so much value for what you

get plus the thing that sways my vote the most

is ease of apps Yeah, that's pretty much what

swings my vote. It's apps. Mostly because of

Twitch. And the WWE Network, stuff like that.

It's so much easier to access on PS4. Steve,

do you have any experience with the online gaming

aspect? I feel dirty saying that, by the way.

Not really, only because I refuse to pay to play

a game on the internet. Not that I wouldn't play

the games on the internet, I just refuse to pay

for it. I've had experience playing on both PlayStation

and Xbox as far as the like the the PlayStation

3 being on on the PlayStation Network and With

my my brother -in -law and he plays Call of Duty

and all that crap so It wasn't I don't know I

didn't I don't much care for a lot of the stuff

that has to do with PlayStation but like Xbox

I Tended to like when they had the free weekends

of the internet and I played it so and I enjoyed

that more on there so If I was going to actually

do the the cop -out mode I would say Xbox only

because that's what I'm more familiar with Fair

enough and getting into the ninth category and

I know this is going to be a little bit up for

debate as far as which generation maybe you look

at and which console specifically but if you're

looking at the entire life of All the different

Xbox consoles or all the different PlayStation

consoles. We're looking at specifically at controllers

with this category I'm pretty sure if we were

just looking at the original Xbox that would

lose this category Um, maybe that's just me,

but that was one of the worst controllers I've

ever seen on any type of console. Yes. It was

the most awkward as hell controller to hold.

But obviously they had the original Xbox controller.

Yeah, the original S1 was shit. Obviously, they've

all evolved over that and I don't know if you

want to look at where they're at right now or

if you just kind of want to look at an entire

lifespan. But if you're looking at who's done

controllers better, made them easier to handle,

more functional, etc. Maybe it's a hard one to

control. Powers, how do you try to break this

one down and maybe go generation by generation

who had the better ones or overall if you're

the whole thing? PlayStation to PlayStation 2

and Xbox like if you PlayStation by a generation

by itself Obviously the PlayStation wins because

it's you know It was the only one there if you

look at the Xbox and the PlayStation 2 PlayStation

2 controller is gonna win because well, let's

face it We just talked about how bad that controller

was, huh? Yeah, so that one when when you get

to the 360 and you get to the ps3 that's a completely

different story because Microsoft Made the better

controller hands down made a better controller.

I don't have any issues using a dual shock 3

It's just that the trigger for me. It's the triggers

on the 360 controller. They feel really good

Because of the way they're they're curved for

your finger like an actual trigger rather than

just being a mound that your finger can slip

off of Even though my fingers never slipped off

of it when you get into the ps4 and the Xbox

one I feel like Sony reclaimed their their status

like so if I That's how I break it down. You

know three wins for Sony and one for Microsoft

so I I Don't know I would I would honestly give

this category to Sony just for longevity But

it also depends on what category you're looking

at like what generation? Right Steve let you

go second on this one which controllers have

you had more more ease with or more functionality

with I will say I've used all of them but the

PlayStation 4 and the Xbox One, so I'm pretty

familiar with how they feel and everything. I

didn't really have a problem with the PlayStation

controllers because, like I said, I used to own

a PlayStation 2 and I've played the PlayStation

1 and then my brother -in -law owns the PS3.

But if you're going against the original Xbox

controller, that one was god -awful. It just...

It's like holding onto a circle and like a frisbee

disc or something and trying to hold onto or,

you know, and press these buttons in the most

awkward fashion. But getting to the Xbox 360,

which I still play because I still own it, I

find the controller so infinitely more comfortable

than using the PlayStation controller. just because

the way my fingers have to bend to use the controller

I don't feel like I'm straining my hand as much

and I can play for longer times without my hands

going out on me which I've had happen playing

the PlayStation compared to the Xbox 360 so for

me I would probably choose the The 360 controller

side just choose Xbox overall because I just

I like the controller better Alright, so we've

had one argument on each side bird man. Where

do you go? It comes down to the type of game

the PlayStation 2 to Xbox. Yeah, that's pretty

fucking obvious PlayStation. It's more comfortable

when it comes to 360 and ps3 Depends on the game

For shooters, I will always go 360. It's more

comfortable because that raised D stick is more

accurate. Or that raised analog stick. Or if

you're playing like a game like like Batman or

something, you know, the Arkham games or something.

Yeah, you want more precision. But when I play

a fighting game, I want a PlayStation 3 controller.

Now, if you want to expand that out to include

different types of controllers with these systems,

I prefer my fight sticks on PS3. Because they're

I don't know they're just they're easier to program

and make for one When I actually make my own

fight sticks and stuff like that I just prefer

it that way but Going to Xbox one the ps4 ps4

I Like it for most action games, but not shooters

like for example even playing destiny I never

feel as accurate as I am in Halo or in COD on

a PlayStation 4. Basically, Destiny feels sloppy

to me in terms of its accuracy for shooting on

the PlayStation 4 because of the little analog

stick. Whereas on the Xbox One with the raised

stick, when I play games like Titanfall, COD,

or Halo, I feel damned accurate. I feel great

to rock and roll. but don't you think that's

a lot better fighter control over my character

on playstation i like it was in fact it comes

down to the type of game plus there are there

are controllers made by different companies like

powerade niko that are cross generation i've

got a three sixty controller that will play playstation

three and it's really comfortable uh... and maybe

if i were a shooter like say resistance or killzone

all I'll put in my USB stick that powers that

and I'll go like that. But the PlayStation 3

had a lot more options for controllers, for fight

sticks, for steering wheels. Steering wheels

on the Xbox One and the 360 are phenomenal. So

I think they kind of win there just because they

have better first party support. That and second

parties like Mad Cats, whatever. This is hard.

This is actually really, really, really hard.

I'm going to say Microsoft on this one. It's

more comfortable, but it barely edges out Sony

because I tend to game more with Microsoft stuff.

But I love my PlayStation 4 too and I feel like

I'm betraying her by saying this. But I want

to play a shooter. I'm going to go to Xbox. Getting

into our 10th category here, looking at what

some of you mentioned right away, especially

you, Birdman, at the start of the show. But when

it comes to marketing, when it comes to ad campaigns,

commercials, slogans, and that side of the company,

because obviously the company is more than the

hardware and the software. In any business, marketing

is one part of it. So who does the marketing,

the ad campaigns, the commercials, the slogans

better? Xbox or PlayStation, Birdman? Well working

as gaming press for stuff like e3 packs Etc etc

and game developers conference I'm going to say

Microsoft because you look at the way they handle

their like e3 briefings the way that they've

constructed some of the marketing around their

Their IPs more specifically the halo IP and this

is where I'm gonna say it was most effective

remember those ads for halo 3 was like Believe

and it was the huge battlefield or it might be

the soldiers talking about their experiences

fighting alongside the Master Chief it looked

like a movie and They've they just when it comes

to their certain IPs they market the hell I remember

seeing commercials for Forza I see a crap ton

of sunset overdrive commercials right now Xbox

I think just has a better marketing plan But

they know when they fucked up most notably when

they had all those lockouts on the Xbox One initially

during the E3 briefing, and then they changed

their minds six months later because they knew

all the negative backlash, and I was one of them.

Oh, God. But they managed to turn things around

in six months. PlayStation has had some really

weird marketing. I'm looking at the PlayStation

Baby. Being one of them just Google PlayStation

baby sometime and you'll see some weird shit

No, thank you Now they did a really cool commercial

I think it was last year maybe into this one

and it was called Oh what a perfect day and it

was And it was just them walking through kill

zone resistance Uncharted there's just Them just

walking and saying and beating the crap out of

people and it was really fun And I also like

think of a PlayStation 4 ads right now for Destiny

are amazing Because they're all Sony focused

and they're generally really funny And the production

value on them is phenomenal But Microsoft has

more money to throw into it when you look at

the marketing simply halo Sony is there they're

doing something in original programming Yeah,

but you look at that compared to halo nightfall

with Ridley Scott I Don't see those as marketing

though, but I Don't I don't see halo nightfall

or the forward unto dawn as commercials or anything

for halo i just feel like they're extended things

for halo like to me a commercial is like a trailer

for a movie not this tv show is a commercial

for the game i don't know but you got forward

unto dawn as free as free stuff anyway you didn't

have to pay for it yeah but i I think the game

does that on its own. I don't think the game

needed that stuff. That's what I'm saying. Okay,

allow me to paint you a different example. It's

like running a half -hour special on TV for,

say, an upcoming movie. Like a couple weeks ago,

actually, they had Marvel's Agents of S .H .I

.E .L .D. They did that 75 years of looking back.

That was one giant commercial for the Marvel

Universe. That's all it was. Fortnite and Nightfall.

They're parts of the Halo lore. but they're ultimately

a marketing tool. If we're looking strictly though

as to how they directly market or put the campaigns

forward for systems or their games. If we were

looking at it from that standpoint. Here's another

good one. Microsoft in Toronto did this awesome

marketing thing once again for Halo. It was called

the UNSC Supply Point. You got to play laser

tag with people dressed up as elites, grunts,

and brutes. Here, here's a giant plasma gun.

They hand you something that looked like the

Halo assault rifle. Here, go play laser tag for

10 minutes. You win. Here's a limited edition

copy of Halo 3. Sony has done nothing like that.

Now, I went to an infamous and a resistance press

event a couple years ago. I got a small cup of

french fries at end of game. I didn't get the

kill on Elite. Their events, when Microsoft pulled

out all the stops, they go right out. Even the

stuff for Reach, they had another thing for Reach.

They had people defending hills in full Halo

Chief armor. But has Microsoft had anything on

the level of Kevin Butler? I would say the Major

Nelson podcast. That doesn't They're both just

supposed people. Yeah, but kept Major Nelson

didn't appear on TV and ads Kevin Butler was

like the face of that company for almost a year

or if not more And when I think of that stuff,

that's what I think of also I also think of you

know The the one that's in everyone's mind right

now is Sony's comeback like their campaign going

into this generation hands down They've whipped

the crap out of Microsoft. I would say Microsoft

did a better launch lineup because PS4's launch

lineup was weak as shit. It didn't get good until

six months in. I could say the same thing for

Xbox One. True, but I felt it was a little bit

better because there are more exclusives. But

none that well see that's subjective because

none that interests me, but what I was gonna

say is the the thing is Sony Sony going up against

the Xbox They've they whooped them all over the

place there like Sony was on top there Microsoft

didn't know what to do They weren't doing their

whole halo thing again beating that one IP to

death yes They put a bunch of money behind halo

because that's all they've got you know for the

game Rage in season four. That's marketing money.

Okay. People get mentioned in shows. That's marketing

money. Okay, I understand. And I cry foul at

all that. Like none of that stuff attracts my

attention. Like, and it actually kicks me out

of the immersion of that show. So that's more

detrimental to that stuff than adding anything

to that show for me. But what I'm all I'm getting

at is they, you know, Microsoft sure Microsoft

is gonna throw a lot of money behind halo because

that's really all they've got if I if I'm looking

at Microsoft if I look at PlayStation I look

at them kind of like if I see an ad for a PlayStation

thing and it's like and it's a game that i'm

aware of like uncharted or infamous or hell even

destiny right now that's like when I see an ad

for coke or mountain dew like why are you advertising

for these things because they're going to sell

like no one's going to stop buying Doritos because

you stop putting a Dorito commercial on tv but

if you show someone a picture of Cole McGrath

next to the master chief who's going to get recognized

first halo I understand but no one that's more

effective marketing Media saturation. It's it's

it's the Disney strategy. I give them that they've

won. They won the 360 generation I don't think

they've had a good marketing campaign on the

Xbox one other than backpedaling for every single

thing that they set out to do and giving into

consumer backlash like I I would agree with you

there. They haven't had a super strong title

yet We'll wait and see what happens with Halo

5 or message Like they haven't had they've been

backpedaling for the last year. That's what their

marketing campaign has been for the last year

is making up. They didn't come out the gate with

a strong thing. Sony is still coasting on what

they came out the gate with. Microsoft has been

backpedaling and gaining favor. Sony is still

moving forward and Sony also had them on the

ropes with the PlayStation 2 and the Xbox one.

So if I'm kind of going by the generation here

and who's had the better campaigns, I'm going

to go with Sony. because the 360, Microsoft puts

money behind Halo and they also trumped everybody

on the 360 in the 360 generation, but I can't

give it to Microsoft overall. Yeah, I mean, ultimately

it's going to be three years down the road. We'll

see who comes out of this. Steve, what do you

think as far as the different ads and commercials

that you've seen, which have been more effective

to you? I don't know. I'm kind of thinking that

they're pretty much about the same to me. I mean,

I don't really. I mean over the years I'd say

that Like PlayStation seems to have had a lot

more memorable ones over in the past, but I anymore

I they don't kind of mesh together I Don't fair

enough. I don't yeah, I don't really have an

opinion of them hmm, I Honestly don't like if

I'm thinking just in my memory like Steve said

I remember more Sony commercials that stood out

Or that we didn't really talk about their little

slogans or their little, you know, well, yeah

that type of stuff, but I mean I was Was drawn

more towards the Sony commercials, even though

it didn't didn't necessarily motivate me to buy

them But I remember more of them I'm not saying

they they were more effective or they were but

it seemed like for a long time that like powers

of saying the Xbox was on the ropes it seemed

like maybe that's An outsider seeing things wrong,

but it seemed like they were clinging By some

by, you know the the hair on their chinny chin

chin there for a while I don't know how accurate

that is Well, I just want to make sure that it's

the it's the xbox versus the playstation 2 when

PlayStation 2 was beating the crap out of them,

right? Not the not the 360. That's what I just

want to make sure that Yeah, yeah. Obviously,

once 360 came out, it was a little bit different,

and they kind of righted the ship a little bit

and saved themselves, it seemed like. But I still,

over time, and maybe it's unfair since PlayStation

was around longer, maybe I'm thinking of some

more of those early commercials, but I just remember

more of the commercials, more of the jingles,

more of the slogans from the PlayStation side.

And I'm not saying Xbox is all, you know, one

game or not. I'm not intelligent enough to say

that, but I don't remember any commercials about

Xbox that are not involving Halo. My other the

other thing I would say and this is just subjective

to me is that I don't watch The TV that I watch

does not have commercials in it because I torn

to everything So I don't see what ads that Sony

plays on TV I don't see what ads Microsoft plays

the ads that I see are the ones that run in front

of YouTube or like like or just someone Or movies

or someone talking about something like in my

twitch stream, and I'm not talking like a promoted

tweet But I'm talking about people just talking

in general I see I'm subject for some reason

and I try to be biased but I like for some reason

I'm just I feel like I'm subjected to more Sony

stuff and it might be because when I go to YouTube

I'm searching out like how to get this trophy

or something so of course the first ad to pop

up is gonna be a Sony ad or something like that

but like in the in the limited amount of space

that I that I am personally exist in and where

I am susceptible to marketing I see more PlayStation

stuff than I do Microsoft now they may have a

stronger TV campaign that I'm not aware of so

Fair enough I think that's kind of the case too

for a lot of us and nowadays commercials are

almost a thing of the past when it comes to TV

I don't watch any commercials on TV. I can even

be home when something's airing live. I'll still

record it and watch it an hour later Just so

I don't have to watch the commercial so Embedded

marketing so it's part of the kind of narrative

like It's like, for example, tonight during Agents

of S .H .I .E .L .D., Fitz and Mac were playing

Halo Master Chief Collection. What a coincidence

on its release day. Oh, the money. The money.

Follow the money. We'll hold that one off then.

We'll call it a tie for that category. Since

Steve wasn't voting, we'll call it one for each

with Dodd on the Xbox side, Powers on the PlayStation

side. We'll see if that tie comes back or if

we'll have to settle it or not but moving on

to the the 11th Category here. We talked a little

bit about this kind of In the peripheral when

we were talking about some of the different games

But if you were specifically comparing the PlayStation

move and the Xbox connect Which has a better

interactive, you know as we get closer to the

virtual reality Interactive move type of functionality

connect we Only when they got Wii Motion Plus.

And now they've kind of abandoned that with the

Wii U. Well, Wii Motion Plus is still in the

Wii U controllers. Yeah, but most games use the

Pro Controller. Well, here's my one aside real

quick, off topic here. Maybe, I don't know if

Dodd, if you will know this or not. I'm trying

to work this out. I bought the Wii Sports for

the Wii U because I love Wii U. I love Wii bowling.

Love it. Broken is all get out on the Wii U and

I cannot figure out why Like it will not like

it does not respond the same way That like Wii

bowling does like the Wii U bowling does not

respond the same way that the Wii bowling does

have you Do you have it? We were like Mario Smash

Brothers I just remember playing Punch -Out on

the Wii and then just not being able to move

my arms the next day. That was my experience

with that. I have played more... I actually have

somewhat of experience with both the Wii controllers,

the Wii mode and the Kinect. I've never used

the PlayStation Move so I can't really speak

to that but the Xbox Kinect is pretty... functional,

pretty easy to use. There's a lot of software

out there for it. So my girlfriend and I have

a lot of fun doing the different Xbox Kinect

stuff, so I can't speak to the PlayStation Move.

PlayStation Move had a really good launch setup

with basically their version of the Wii Sports

thing. They had this gladiator fighting game

that was a lot of fun. They had this archery

game that was a lot of fun. And other games like

Killzone 3 and Resistance 3 tried to put the

playstation move into its game in fact right

now i'm actually looking at uh it's my resistance

three or sorry kill zone three limited edition

and it's one of the rifles in the game and you

put the playstation move controller in the top

slot and you put the bottom we mode thing in

the wee nunchuck in the bottom thing that's all

i get things did and you'd shoot the screen it

never worked out right But I always felt PlayStation

Move was more accurate in terms of gesture -based,

in terms of body movement. The Kinect had it.

And it's mostly because of harmonics and dance

central. Now, other developers like Ubisoft and

Capcom tried, even Namco tried it with their

Dragon Ball Z game, which is hilariously stupid.

And Kinect fighters within from Ubisoft. but

you look at a company like Dance Central that

did, sorry, a company like Harmonis that did

Dance Central. They also did Fantasia, which

I talked about earlier, and stuff like that.

The Kinect technology is great. I don't see a

lot of PlayStation, I don't think there's going

to be a PlayStation Move for PlayStation 4, but

it's got the camera and it can track you in and

do stuff. Yeah, well, the Move's built into the

controller now, but there's no games that like...

use that as a tracking thing. For me, the Kinect

wins for voice controls. Now here's the thing,

I have the Move camera for my PlayStation 4 and

I had trouble getting it to do what I wanted

it to do before the latest update. Now I can't

get it to do anything because I don't know what

the freaking voice commands are. They're not

natural voice commands. They worked, like I said

before, now they're convoluted. But the voice

commands in the Kinect work. I don't really care

about the whole motion tracking thing of either

one of them because I'm not that type of a gamer.

But just solely going off of the utility of being

able to talk to my console and get it to do what

I want it to do, I go with Kinect, hands down.

Yeah, like with my Kinect, it turns on my TV.

I can control my stereo through it. If I want

to say, hey, Box, go watch AMC, it'll do that.

Or if I want to talk to you guys on Skype, I

just have to say, Box, go to Skype, and it'll

do that. It's phenomenal. We're lucky we're not

losing him right now as he gives all these commands

out. That's why I'm saying Box. It's really sensitive,

I'll tell you that. Steve, you have some experience

with the Kinect, right? Yeah. Are you in agreement

with what they're saying? Yeah. pretty much have

to go with the Xbox Kinect. I don't have any

experience with the PlayStation Move. I've used

all their other accessories, but I haven't used

that. The Kinect is pretty much spot on, for

the most part, and there's a lot of other applications

to it besides just gaming. Don't necessarily

need to go and rehash some of the arguments we've

made when it comes to the games and the controllers,

et cetera. But we can still kind of look at these

in a more general sense. And we're going to compare

generation by generation. I know we've touched

on it a little bit, but we'll break it down one

by one here. So in the first, we won't compare

PlayStation 1 to anything, just like we won't

compare handhelds. But if we're going PlayStation

2 versus Xbox if you only have You know if you're

back in whatever year that was good lord a long

time ago, and you only have at that point what

$200 I don't know how much $300 yeah You can

only buy one of them powers are you buying the

original Xbox or are you buying PlayStation 2

yes, too I Figured that would probably be an

easy one Steve. What are you doing? PS 2 Birdman

yes There's more games and there's more you get

more bang for your buck with your 300 bucks too

because unlike the Xbox the ps2 complete DVDs

out the get -go Now I remember the remember what

it was when we had the contest between blu -ray

and We had two different setups to the target

both having both of them and it was like Immediately

we're like that's not gonna work. I actually

had an HDDVU drive propping up a couch Nice okay,

so fast forward a few more years and the price

tag probably goes up at least of what a hundred

or two hundred more dollars I don't know I never

bought any of these but You only have so much

money and you have to choose to buy the PlayStation

3 or the Xbox 360 Steve, which one are you buying?

360 question I'll tell you why why blu -ray you

fucks because I love 1080p I love that rich surround

sound because I'm a movie guy place yep yep still

one of the best blu -ray players on the market

yep I use it every day so powers you're buying

a PlayStation 3 instead of an Xbox 360 well Here

hang on. No, I don't want I own them before everybody

else. No, okay. I Just so everyone I just want

to share this story real quick I bought an Xbox

360 before I bought a PlayStation 3 simply because

it was cheaper I got my my Xbox in 2006 which

is when the PlayStation 3 came out And it was

much cheaper than the PlayStation 3 and I just

want I just bought an HD TV my first one ever

I wanted to play HD games so I didn't have a

lot of money, so I went with the Xbox 360. So

in that, if we're going by history, I would have

purchased the Xbox 360. Looking back, if I had

been smart, I probably would have saved up a

little bit more and got myself a PlayStation

3, which I ended up getting a year later. And

the PlayStation 3 is just, you know, again, just

like the PlayStation 2 was before. It's more

bang for your buck. You get a really good Blu

-ray player. If you got one of the earlier ones,

you also got the ability to play all your PlayStation

2 games. So even with all the improvements that

the 360 controller made and the different things

that you guys said and other categories PlayStation

3 still wins out But the other thing too is to

me the controller I don't I've never had a problem

with the controllers not like I don't like this

system because of the controller issue So I would

honestly if I had the money At that time I would

have gone with the PlayStation 3 again because

I was a Sony guy like that's what I was That's

what I was playing like all my TV was a Sony

my stereo was a Sony everything was a Sony Dodd

you said something real quick. Were you saying

that you would vote for PlayStation as well on

this one? I really would and I actually bought

a playstation. I bought my first PlayStation

in 2008 Because I really wanted Metal Gear Solid

for Guns of the Patriots, but my first HD system

was a 360 because I really wanted Dead Rising

The thing the thing that would sway me is blu

-ray. I Like being in the media and going to

college for this stuff We're always on the lookout

for the next format And when it was when it was

between HD D2D and blu -ray The thing that won

that war was porn Whatever format porn goes with

will be the winner When I saw a lot of companies

signing on with with like blu -ray like vivid

and hustler and all that I have friends in the

adult industry. I'm thinking, you know what?

Blu -ray five ten years down the road Actually

Dave right now is sorting my blu -rays said I

have way more blu -rays than I have DVDs. It's

kind of insane. Yeah me too It's It's gotta be

that ultimately it's gonna come down to media

capability plus Setting up the media server on

the PlayStation 3 10 times easier than doing

it through the Xbox 360 Yep, cuz it just shows

up right there in the dashboard. I just like

I like I like the XMB too I mean I for the for

the 360 it really didn't get any better for me

than the blades. I love I love the blades but

the XMB is I don't know what people's problem

with it is. It's elegant. It's perfect. Yeah,

you know exactly where everything is and it never

moves. Nope. It's gorgeous. No ads. Yeah, that's

true. Now for the one that for the one that fewer

of us probably have experience with, but I know.

Both the mics can talk about it a little bit.

If we're going to what's currently out there

with the PlayStation 4 and the Xbox One, if you

can only buy one, what's the better buy, Birdman?

This comes tough for me because both of them

have really big perks. And it ultimately comes

down to exclusives. For me, I hate answering

this. I really do. I really like the Xbox One

because I like the fact that finally we're getting

dedicated media. There's going to be DLNA support

soon. It supports external hard drives and MP3s

and everything now via its preview program. I

like the interactive experiences that I get with

it. It can play Blu -rays, so it wins points

there. And when Microsoft was pushing at their

E3 conference how it's supposed to be an entertainment

hub, it really is. And the fact that my wife

can use it who's not very technologically inclined,

that really says for simplicity of use. So I

love my PlayStation 4, do not get me wrong, because

I love how simple it is to get around certain,

shall we say, regional lockouts. But it's gotta

be Xbox One, but it's... Like I said, it comes

down to exclusives and I love infamous and I

love sunset overdrive I love halo. I love the

last of us Yeah, it's gonna be xbox for right

now powers I have to go. I mean, I bought a playstation

4 first. I I do not regret buying a playstation

4 first I've had the xbox one for almost a year

now and i've only bought two games for it And

that was titanfall and sunset overdrive um Dead

Rising 3 it's really I don't I don't care for

the Dead Rising games The the PlayStation 4 to

me it It's exactly what Sony advertised it was

going to be when they did their press thing in

February of last year I mean granted some features

weren't there out of the bag but unlike the PlayStation

3 where they made all these wild promises and

Half of them never came to fruition They made

a lot of wild promises at theirs, and they're

still giving them to us. They just added the

SharePlay thing. They have said that external

hard drive support is coming, not to mention

it's really easy to swap out the hard drive in

it anyways. But it wipes your data when you switch

them, and I know you can back it up. That's just

a pain in the ass game to plug the old drive

in. See, I did it really early, before I started

buying a bunch of games. I dropped a hybrid drive

in there. So I don't have to worry about that

anymore. But I just I like the simplicity of

it. I do not like the Xbox one dashboard. I think

it's convoluted and hard to figure out what you're

doing. The PlayStation four is an evolution of

the XMB, and it's it still works and and it's

just faster. It's all around. It's faster than

the PlayStation three, which makes it a lot easier

to get around and find what you're doing. And

with the most recent update, you can actually

sort things now. Yep They just they keep improving

they've improved it they've improved it and they

and they've been able to do that because they

haven't had to backpedal like Microsoft has they've

been able to keep pushing the system forward

The only thing I will knock the PlayStation 4

for and I know Dodd you said you like the PlayStation

4's twitch app The one thing I prefer over the

PlayStation 4 is twitch app or the Xbox one's

twitch app or PlayStation 4 is that if I want

to view comments on the xbox one the comments

don't show up in my stream the playstation 4

if i want to view comments at the same time i'm

playing those comments show up in your stream

too i don't i like being able to see what's being

said i do too but i don't think that i don't

think that needs to be broadcast to the people

that are watching is what i'm saying oh okay

i read you but that that said i'm really i've

got really excited when they added in the um

party chat to be allowed into the uh the Twitch

stream, which has been a lot of fun. So I, yeah,

I might, anyways, long story short, I chose PlayStation

4 first and I would choose it again in a heartbeat.

All right, Steve, that means we got a tie. One

thing I just want to drop in, I would have bought

a PlayStation 4 first if they'd had a competitive

fighter right out of the game. That's one thing

Xbox One has. That's probably just subjective

to me because I love killer and I love fighting

games and the expo and the ps4 only really has

Injustice as far as I know I can't think of any

other maybe dive kicker skull girls, but I'm

not sure And it sucks that ultra Street Fighter

4 wasn't ported Yet yet, I freaking hope so if

then then I get my ps4 fight stick see you later

Alright, Steve, we got a tie going for this one

between the PS4 and the Xbox One. I know you

don't have either of them. If you were given

a pile of cash and you were able to drop it on

one, which one would you buy? I like lazy people

on Xbox One, I'm just saying. Boys, come out!

I'm almost going to go Xbox One just because

I like the Xbox structure more than I like the

PlayStation One at this point. Alright, living

on the edge. Alright, just tallying up some stuff

while we get to our final overall category which

we always end wars with a non -distinct category

which is looking at the overall... Categories

that we're comparing. So if you're just comparing

Xbox and PlayStation, which do you prefer? What's

the better company overall given all the different

categories? We've talked about in the all the

other categories that we could have talked about

What company do you prefer Steve PlayStation

or Xbox? Xbox one vote for Xbox dad Xbox and

it mostly just comes down to all the support

they've given the competitive scene Over the

years and it gave me Master Chief as much as

I love Ellie and Joel. I'll always be Spartan

117 And Michael Powers, I think I know where

you're voting but let's just say it you think

you know No, I'm serious. I'm gonna go And this

is hmm, okay, I'm gonna go with Microsoft Drinking

at that moment And here's why Yes, I'm going

Microsoft just because the other two did no I'm

going with Microsoft because I've been listening

to a lot of older podcasts from like 2006 when

the when the ps3 first came out when it was ramping

up and stuff like that and I heard there was

a lot of talk about there was a shift in the

Mentality of Sony as a platform holder They went

from being a platform holder and supporting third

parties to being a platform holder and supporting

their own games And that is evident by the how

great games like last of us and Uncharted and

suck an infamous look on their system versus

other games, you know, cross -platform games.

Basically what happened from the PS2 to the PS3,

Sony stopped supporting third -party developers.

They were on their own to make games work on

their system. The architecture wasn't that friendly

either. Exactly, and they weren't willing to...

To help they helped a little bit with middleware,

but beyond that it was like you're on your own

If you can't make it work, you can't make it

work You know, we'll deal with a game running

at 30 frames a second over 60 on one system that

to me that speaks volumes about them and I I

feel like I want to say they've turned that corner

and they've started they might be they at least

made hardware that was easier to develop for

this generation and The games that have been

cross -platform over the last year which it sounds

like it that trend just broke with Assassin's

Creed unity The game games have cross -platform

games have run better on the ps4 than they have

on the Xbox one Now I don't know if that's because

the harvest is easier to develop for or because

Sony is actually going out there now again and

helping developers, you know make things work

better, but if if I'm And there's no, I have

no evidence to support that they are. So if I

assume that they're not, and we both know, we

all know there's still a platform holder with

strong first -party titles, I gotta give it to

Microsoft because Microsoft's still out there,

you know, they went out there last generation

with the 360 and they were helping these third

-party developers make better games. They helped

with the marketing for these games and made them

synonymous with the 360 and they're... While

they're trying to clean up their image with the

Xbox one, they're doing a really good job of

that But and their marketing has died down their

their help with their party marketing has died

down but I Just feel like they I feel like they

treat they might not be as gamer forward as Sony

is this this one But they I still feel like they

they they care about the quality of the games

on their system so I said the two generations

and again, I have no proof that Sony is helping

or not helping third party developers. But because

I don't have one either way or the other, I'm

just going to go with Microsoft because they

care about the games. Interesting. We've had

a lot of different firsts so far in the life

of GCRN wars. Few episodes back we had our first

tie that we had to have the listeners help us

out But I don't think I've ever seen this before

where we get to the the overall Who is the better

company? Which is what we've basically been debating

over the course of the whole episode and We've

had a unanimous all three debaters go with a

company that Does not win overall? if we actually

go by the categories that we were talking about.

So not to kill the drum roll moment, but the

winner based on the category votes overall is

PlayStation by an eight to six margin. Even though

all three people voted Xbox as the overall better

company. I've never seen that happen before.

So yeah eight categories for PlayStation obviously

they dominated a lot of the games categories

So maybe that had part to do with it They also

won when it came to the ps2 versus Xbox the ps3

versus Xbox 360 the online experience and a bunch

of the different games in the character library,

whereas Xbox had the sports games, controllers,

the Kinect, Xbox One versus PS4, and then the

overall vote. So 8 to 6, it goes to PlayStation.

And if you're going by individual votes, it's

26 to 18 PlayStation. So PlayStation wins in

both of the voting metrics, even though all three

of you voted as Xbox as the overall better company.

Final thoughts before we wrap this one up, Steve.

Just it's kind of surprising overall that we

all basically chose Xbox so out out in the the

ending point of it, but Can't say I'm surprised

that it won in that terms, but I can't I'm not

surprised either that PlayStation 1 is the overall

actual winner Final thoughts powers just to just

to back up I thought about it again with my overall

better company going with Microsoft. Regardless

of whether or not Sony is helping developers

this generation over last generation, they have

done something to prove that they are willing

to go along with what gamers say or what gamers

want. With the 360 and the PS3, Sony came out

with a $600 machine and everyone scoffed at it.

It was slow to take off, but they didn't change.

They just kept beating that drum. It's like,

you know what? We're going to make the content.

We're going to make the games. You're going to

buy this system at whatever price we tell you

to buy it at. This generation that we're in now...

Microsoft came out with a completely wrong message

the gamers didn't like it. They got really vocal

They didn't understand, you know, the connect

needing to be bundled They didn't understand

the need for always on DRM always on internet

connections and Microsoft like listened to that

and they like backpedaled on it like they're

Granted Sony came out the gate with the right

message. They didn't have to do anything differently

but It just seems like they're more willing to

They're more willing to make compromises. It's

more like Microsoft is being Microsoft and I

feel like Sony is kind of taking Takes more of

a an Apple like stance when it comes to their

hardware Where Apple's kind of like, you know

what? We made it this way This is how it's going

to work and you're going to like it and if you

don't like it, you're not gonna buy it We don't

really care Whereas Microsoft's kind of like

oh we made this operating system, but you want

the start menu back. Okay Well in the next update,

we're gonna put the start menu back in there

Rather than trying to innovate there's kind of

like stuck in this perpetual state of they can't

do anything because No one wants them to do anything

different, but they're willing to stay there

for whatever reason So I did that's kind of one

reasons why you know I I like that they were

I wish them Microsoft would have done what they

original vision for the Xbox one But they did

I wish they would have done that it really do

so we can all see what it was But they didn't

And I don't know. I still think they're I I think

there's a better company because they're more

willing to work with their fans Than Sony who's

just kind of like this is how it's like Sony's

very Apple. It's like this is the hardware We

made this is the price point we put it at and

you're gonna like it It worked for them with

the PS work with them for them with the PlayStation

it worked for them for the PlayStation 2 and

it's working for the PlayStation 4 They just

tripped up with the PlayStation 3 and I think

it was just because that $600 price point I like

the way you're arguing that. Birdman, what do

you think? Final thoughts on how this all shaped

out and what you think over all of the companies

real quick. Owning both consoles is a lot of

fun. It gives me a lot of variety in my gaming

experience. And both have their pros and cons

that we've discussed over the last, like, hour

and change. I like the fact that Microsoft listens

to fans. If there's a problem, they'll do what

they can. They always have a person on Twitter

willing to talk to you, Major Nelson. and any

public event will always hang out with you. I

had a conversation with him at PAX 2012. I really

like the Xbox brand. Sony, they're getting there,

and I really think they're gonna have some fantastic

game. If games like Infamous and The Last of

Us are any indication, Microsoft's gotta watch

their ass. Well, let's not forget about Uncharted

here. Yeah, Uncharted. But you see, The Last

of Us is a game that made me cry and depressed

me for days. A Microsoft title outside of probably

anything that's cross -platform hasn't done that.

And I really give props to the storytellers at

Sony. Sony, they've got the market lead right

now in terms of outselling Xbox. And I hope that

leads to bigger, better games across both consoles.

As Microsoft tries to catch up and Sony tries

to increase its lead, I hope it leads to... innovations

in storytelling and gaming. If you have the capability

to own both consoles, do it. You'll never look

back. You're less likely to argue if you own

both of them too. There you go. Good advice.

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