ToonCast Beyond

Top 100 Animated Characters Countdown Part 1

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The countdown begins for the top 100 animated characters of all time, starting with entries 100 through 98. The hosts and guests discuss the rules for the list, including the exclusion of Marvel, DC, and Star Wars characters to ensure variety and focus. Throughout this segment, the panel examines the selections of She-Ra, Elmo, and Joy from Inside Out, debating the criteria for inclusion, the impact of nostalgia, and the challenges of ranking modern characters against established icons.

Hey, this is Steve blue and you are listening

to the geek cast radio network You're listening

to Hello and welcome to a special episode of

Geekcast Radio as today we begin another of our

epic adventures as we once again attempt to assemble

one of our top 100 lists. In the past you've

seen us tackle the top 100 animated series of

all time as well as the top 100 animated films

and today we begin the third list in that series

as we turn our attention to the top 100 animated

characters of all time. Am your host for this

countdown optimus solo and joining me today for

this first segment of reveals are my fellow Cinema

geeks movie rebel damn welcome, sir How's it

going? It's not too bad excited to see how this

all works out here. We also have hard candy Mandy

Hello, yola yola from her for the sense here

as well. Hey Also as we go through these episodes

we we like to bring along a special guest or

two joining us Along the way and today we have

from the tsunami faithful podcast sketch. How's

it going, sir? Great. Happy to be here Yeah,

happy to have you and we'll have a variety of

guests kind of joining us as we as we work our

way through So it's good to hear from different

voices and different takes on all this stuff

before we get going Dan I wanted to Quick ask

you a question. Are you excited last time? We

did a top 100 we did the top one 100 live -action

television series and you knew all the answers.

Are you excited to be back on the side of the

the mystery? I'm excited to do all the work that

All the math and all that stuff that's yeah I

was I was you know, I was happy to let you do

that this time. But yeah, I am because like This

one is so It was hard enough to put my own list

together So I have no idea of what we're gonna

especially today's episode where you get the

the latter half of it You know the the bottom

25 It's gonna be interesting So it seems like

when we've done these lists in the past that

that first section the first 25 is kind of a

wild card for sure We get to definitely see a

lot of variety usually when we've done these

well to see how it plays out today To give you

guys a little bit of the groundwork and the rules

as far as how we assembled this list as we've

done in the past we've invited a lot of people

to to submit lists and kind of help us form our

our 100 entries and that was no different this

time we did invite a bunch of people a lot of

GeekCast radio names that you will recognize

probably if you've been a fan of the network

over the years so we have obviously those of

us that are here on the record also from GeekCast

radio the founder Steve Megatron Phillips provided

a list Doug Abel from talking about my generation

provided a list. We had Dan, your sister who

does the board game reviews for us, Kristen,

provided a list. We had Tara Blair, rising star

from original Decast Radio Time back in Tooncast

days provided a list. We also had a combination

list submitted, Dan, from your friends there

at Talking in Circles. So they combined their

powers to give us a list. And then from outside

the network, we had a list submitted from BehindTheVoiceActors

.com from Rice and Kari. We had the simplistic

reviews guys combined and submitted a list. We

had JD and Brendan from In Session Film submit

a list. Also, frequent GeekCast radio host, co

-host and guest, TV's Mr. Neil provided a list

as well as the, gotta be the record commenter

on our Facebook post, Mr. David Baruffi. Provided

a list as well. I think I hit everybody there

So those were the the guys and gals that helped

form this list and the rules that we gave them

more simply To come up with their top 50 or their

top 100 animated characters and the only criteria

we told them basically was we had a eliminated

Marvel and DC from this countdown So if you were

looking forward when you heard the topic to hear

a lot about Superman Batman spider -man, etc

I apologize and I'm sorry to disappoint you but

we will not be hearing those names because we

wanted to say for a list all of its own. We figured

it was a rich enough category that it could provide

enough characters for its own top 100 sometime

down the line. So Dan, that was a decision that

we made. Also because in past lists, it seems

like the DC Marvel universe has dominated at

times. Yeah, it was a tough decision when we

went all back and forth with, but ultimately...

We felt like, one, it's challenging for a number

of reasons. Are you getting votes because of

what the character was on the show? Are you getting

votes because of its notoriety just in general?

Which version are people going to be voting for?

Like, do you say Batman, the animated TV character

from, you know, the Batman? So it was complicated

and like... Kevin mentioned we felt like next

year were probably or sometime be able to dedicate

a list solely to those characters so in order

to not basically talk about the same characters

over and over again and Gets more variety felt

that it was only fair. So right And I mean it

was the loose rule was kind of that we didn't

want any that was based or came to popularity

mainly from the comic books now, there are probably

exceptions because In a way, shape, or form,

there's a lot of characters that actually originated

in a comic, even if it was only weeks or months

before a TV show or before a film or stuff like

that. So there are going to be some exceptions

in some gray areas along the way. We also eliminated

all Star Wars characters, mainly for the fact

that a majority of them were probably more so

made famous through the live action films. Granted,

there's been some great Star Wars animated. cartoons

along the way that could have provided some characters.

But again, possibility for maybe something down

the line, a top 50 countdown or something of

that nature. And then we also had to deal with

certain characters that a lot of people kind

of put together in their mind, pairs or duos

in the cartoon history. So we had to deal with

which characters would count as a duo in which

characters were standing alone. And I'm sure

some people will have problems with the decision

we made here or there along the way. So hopefully,

hopefully we. fell on the side that Angers the

least amount of people but there's no way we're

gonna make everybody happy So there will be some

duos that show up in and you guys will have to

wait to see how that works out Think outside

of that. I don't remember any other any other

rules. There was no rules as far as time period.

There was no Disqualifying anything as far as

the form it goes as far as you know Western animation

or anime or things like that. So that was all

fair game Matt, let's start with you though.

What what kind of criteria did you use? What

was your thought process as you tried to assemble

your list? So, I don't know quite what happened

to me as a young child But somewhere around the

age of 12, I stopped caring about classic American

animation. I was tired of the Looney Tunes. I

was bored of Tom and Jerry. Those things don't

get me excited anymore. And so all my stuff is

almost all made within my lifetime, which is

a very short section of animation. And almost

exclusively, Cartoon Network or Hanna -Barbera.

I tried to avoid anime because I figured it'd

become a little too complicated to watch a lot

of anime. And I tried to avoid being like, well,

Mickey Mouse has been around for 100 years, so

Mickey Mouse needs to be on my list. What if

I don't like Mickey? I didn't put Mickey Mouse.

I didn't put a Bugs Bunny on my list. So my list

is probably the weirdest and least loved list.

Whoa. You're already inviting the haters. No

Bugs Bunny? Did not put him on there. You're

inviting the haters. Pick up I gave it scooby

-doo. You got a scooby -doo list We'll have to

see what else shows up on a matt's list dan What

was the how did you try to break this down because

there are so many cartoon characters over decades

and decades This is man. There's a pool to choose

from so how did you help narrow it down for yourself?

Yeah, actually was i was talking to dave dave

rathy. We mentioned bradalus Getting to us to

any mention. This is really hard to put together

Compared to like last year with the TV shows

or previous ones and this is by far the hardest

one I think we've done because of just the huge

variety you could you can easily do a top 100

Simpsons characters could even South Park characters,

you know But like there's so many and you so

it's so hard just to pick and choose which ones

you want on it so one thing I did to try to my

help my own sanity was Okay, who do I really

want from South Park? I'm gonna put that on there

because I'm not gonna put ten South Park characters

I'm gonna try to limit different properties.

I try to look at it that way. I did consider

I overall just iconography or overall Impact

on the genre along with just the quality of the

character So I did try to get a balance there

as much as I could because there are big characters

that people know and they're well They're huge

huge icons in the world of animation. But as

a character they're kind of very one -dimensional

so how do you does that mean get really high

and i try to just try to strike a balance basically

i kind of created two categories and within like

overall quality of the character and overall,

you know, impact on the, on the genre of animation

and use that to kind of balance my list. So,

uh, again, a lot of math unnecessarily probably

took this a lot more serious than I needed to.

And, uh, you know, that's how I kind of broke

it down, but you can not take this too seriously.

Amanda, your first venture into this project

was last time when we did the television shows

itself. What was it like this time? Did you change

your strategy or how did you go about narrowing

down and what made one character stand out more

to you than another? I think last time I worked

my way from the bottom up because it was so difficult

for me to choose what was my number one. So I

was able to work my way from the bottom up. This

time I did the complete opposite and like I know

which one I'm going for at the top. So I was

able to work my way down and. It's always difficult

to who's you know 65 who's 80 that weird area.

So that's always a challenge, but I think that

I went the most. into, I don't know, nostalgia

that I ever have. And like, what did I get out

of these characters? What did my child self get

out of this? And did it stick with me into adulthood?

Is this something that I really hold onto even

now? So I think that it was more about impact

on me as a child. Okay, absolutely. And Sketch,

how about you? What was your thought process

as you tried to assemble your list that you submitted?

Oh boy, I had so many things going. I agree it

was easier to look at like the top 10 and figure

that out and then just kind of work your way

down. But I figured I would be one of the only

people to have more of an international bend

on this. So I tried to include some Japanese

characters that are really iconic, like people

know about them around the world. And admittedly,

what I know Knowledge wise of how iconic they

are outside of Japan and America is limited,

but I tried to go with characters that I knew

had a lot of impact around the world and Also

tried to throw in some European characters that

I knew of and stuff like that You know, I think

I think we always talk about how sometimes our

list over at Geocast radio are somewhat obviously

Western animation Slanted towards and we sometimes

don't give anime the credit that it deserves.

Well, not just sometimes all the time We don't

give the credit deserves but you bring up European

animation. I think that even gets less credit.

Oh absolutely Yeah, a lot of the animated films

that were you know more From European countries

that we just did not give the love to that. I

thought they deserved I wish I knew more about

animation outside of the U .S. and Japan, but

there's just not a lot of information, which

is unfortunate. But beyond that, when I was looking

at American cartoons, I was thinking about the

ones that had a lasting impact, the ones that

were truly iconic, very long -term popular. Like,

I would maybe throw in a character that I really,

really loved and thought was a fantastic character,

but I put them towards the bottom of the list

thinking, you know, The archetype characters

that existed before this character are more important

and therefore should be ranked better Right,

but I didn't want to leave them out. So narrowing

that down guy Really really hard Like thinking

about oh which iconic Disney villains do I want

to include because there's so many and then thinking

about Which classic cartoon characters really

stood like really stood out? Among like there's

the obvious ones, but then there's the less obvious

ones and I had to debate with myself Is this

a character that really matters or is it just

an old character that a lot of people know about

right? Yeah, it got It got really hard and then

when it came to franchises I definitely tried

to narrow it down to one or two characters maximum

because there's just so many characters in some

of these franchises Like it killed me but I was

only going to vote for one Ninja Turtle. It killed

me. I love all four of them almost equally, but

I had to just pick one. And along those lines,

there were also characters that I do not personally

like at all. But if I felt like they were well

known, popular enough, had enough impact, I was

going to put them on the list. Not putting Johnny

Test on my list. I don't care how long that show

lasted. That was for you Mike. Yeah I had something

similar to especially what you were talking about

and what Dan was talking about. I definitely

tried to narrow down like specific shows or franchises

to a very select few and try to help that make

that help narrow my scope so if I was looking

at a certain show if I could get it down to one

or two that helped me eliminate a lot of things

and then also like what you're talking about

with certain archetypes whether you're talking

about like a Disney princess or a Disney villain

or, you know, a Hannah Barbera character that

was similar to other Hannah Barbera characters,

you know, which ones kind of stood above the

rest of them. So that was definitely one thing.

I used as well. Overall, obviously we had 15

lists submitted and I forgot to mention it up

front, but nobody here knows the results except

for myself, so it will be kind of genuine reactions

as we reveal each one. Overall, the total number

of characters that got a vote, we had over 460

characters that got at least one vote. So that

just kind of tells you the size of the pool of

characters that are available out there. And

that's just scratching the surface, but 460 plus

characters getting a boat. Dan, I had a couple

more questions before we get into the actual

countdown. One thing that I'm going to kind of

keep track, because I try to get as much information

ready for you guys as possible. But one thing

that I thought it might be interesting is to

see a couple different things here. Number one,

which companies are most well represented as

we make our way through the countdown. Dan, any

heavy hitters that you're looking at that might

have a shot at dominating the countdown or do

you think it's going to be evenly spread amongst

a plethora of different companies? Trying to

think it back to when we did the animation movie

countdown and TV countdown. I have a feeling

Disney is going to have a pretty strong Hold

the countdown just thinking about the films that

were highly rated on those and knowing that we

are dealing with a lot of the same people So

that would be my initial guess but I could be

wrong Probably not though Yeah, so we'll definitely

have to look and see which ones start showing

up more than others. It'll be interesting to

kind of track that as we go. Another thing that

I'll be keeping track of as we make our way through

this is the origin of the characters. And what

I mean by that is both number one, the year that

the character originated or the decade that they

originated, as well as what form they originated

in. Was it a book? Was it a film? Was it a theatrical

short? Was it a comic strip? What kind of thing,

you know, where did these characters originate?

So we're gonna have to look at that as well.

Matt, how about looking at it from another angle?

What do you, if you had to guess the ratio or

the percentage out of the hundred characters

that are gonna be revealed, what do you think

the male -female split would be? I'm gonna guess

it's gonna be overwhelmingly male. Probably something

like a 70 % area. I did my list with my wife

verbally. Like she, while I was driving, she

was going through the things. And overwhelmingly

I was like, why am I only picking male characters?

And I think that there was a under -representation

of female characters, especially if you go back

a long time. Or you'll have your female characters

who are just like annoying bitchy characters.

You know, like a Miss Piggy is not gonna be as

popular as a Kermit, you say. Right. Yeah, so

we'll have to see if that holds true. If your

suspicions are correct, if we have a male -dominated

list or the females surprise you. Amanda, one

question for you here. Another way to look at

it is good versus evil, because a lot of characters

either come across or are depicted as the protagonist

or the antagonist. How do you think the split's

going to be like that? Are we going to have a

list dominated? just by good characters or is

there some evil love out there? I would say it

would be predominantly good guys because everybody

likes to feel good. I would hope that there would

be some definite shows of evil power in this

because I think everybody can like a villain

sometimes. All right, last question sketch before

we get going here, looking at what I said before,

as far as the origins go, do you have any suspicions

as far as which decades will be best represented?

And we're talking about when the character originated.

What time period do you think supplied us with

the most iconic characters that are going to

show up in this list? Oh, I have a strong feeling.

I mean, it could go two ways. I think it's a

strong possibility it'll be a lot of 60s. and

90s but I think it's going to be mostly 80s and

90s. All right so we'll have to wait and see

if that holds true. I know that definitely played

a part when we were talking about our animated

series list and our animated films based on probably

the age of most people that we're submitting

lists. We'll have to see if that holds true or

if some classic characters can make a push as

to dominate the countdown. So all right without

further ado let's get to the reveals and let's

start off with our number 100 selection. For

number 100, we go to, well, maybe Scotch had

the point there. We're going to 1980s, specifically

1985. The character originated for TV, and we're

starting with a female. Good character from filmation.

We're starting off at number 100 with She -Ra.

So She -Ra starts off the countdown, voiced by

Melanie Britt. Obviously originated in 1985,

had three or four different incarnations over

the years. Dan? What do you think of starting

off with She -Ra? I have very little thought

on this, to be honest with you. You know, I never

watched the cartoon. He -Man was, she was in

He -Man, am I wrong? He -Man and She -Ra are

brother and sister. Okay, well there you go.

Yeah, so I, for whatever reason, I didn't, I

skipped over much of that regarding my time in

the 80s, but, I mean. Happy you that we're getting

some female representation already. That's pretty

cool. And though I'm not surprised. We're starting

in the 80s I don't know if this is a thing a

sign of things to come but I'm a little surprised

you made the list but May that may be more mind

-nurturing than anything. Well, and another thing

like you said the wild card that is this bottom

or you know This first section of 25 sometimes

it does not take much To get on the list in this

section of the countdown if you had at least

one person ranking it super high And we did have

one person on the panel not on the recording

panel But on the group that submitted list I

had this all the way up at number 13 on their

top 100 So that put a big deal in getting shira

onto the list Matt, I believe shira was on your

list as well. So why do you do you think she

is deserving to show up here in the top 100?

I love She -Ra. I love not just the character

of the show, because it was like, hey, we're

going to make a female He -Man. like a show aimed

at a female audience that's just He -Man. I don't

know, I love the whole show. They got the archer

guy who's not wearing anything but wrestling

tights and a shoulder strap. I love She -Ra.

I put her right next to He -Man on my list, real

high. Yeah, and I think those people that are

fans of that universe, definitely She -Ra would

place. Fairly high, and definitely a strong female

character from the 80s as far as the action goes,

which we didn't get a lot of. So, Amanda, what

are your thoughts on She -Ra showing up? I don't

have, like, memories of She -Ra. I am too young.

But I'm a little surprised that she's so low,

honestly. I would have thought that she would

be higher based on her popularity. Yeah. I mean,

I don't know if she's as popular nowadays and

if people, you know, younger generations would

know much about her. It might be just a specific

generation that really has the memories of She

-Ra. I don't know. Sketch, do you think she's

deserving or not quite? I think she's deserving.

As far as, like, strong female characters in

the 80s go, excellent choice in She -Ra. I seem

to recall a lot of people actually liking the

She -Ra series more than He -Man, but... Despite

that He -Man had many more incarnations over

the years like the 2002 He -Man show was awesome.

Yeah, so you didn't really have She -Ra in that

so bummer there and I feel like She -Ra's kind

of been lost to time a little bit, but I'm not

too surprised to see her pop up on this list

because like I said Y 'all love 80s cartoons.

Right. Yeah, I agree. She does seem like she's

got a little bit lost there throughout time.

I think the reason that some people do enjoy

the She -Ra cartoons better than the He -Man

cartoons is because there's a lot of crossovers

in the She -Ra series. So you do get He -Man

appearing a lot. So you kind of get the dynamic

of both worlds in that She -Ra series, whereas

the He -Man series, you're kind of stuck in that

one world with the same set of characters for

quite an extended time. So it's a landed universe.

Yeah, exactly. All right. So that's where we

start today. Number 100, She -Ra. Actually, though,

she was in a tie for that 100 spot, and that

brings up a couple different things. The first

of which is how we break ties here on the countdown.

And the first tiebreaker rule that I put forth

here is if there was a tie based on the points,

that the first tiebreaker would be who appeared

on more lists. So if one of the characters appeared

on more lists, then they got the bump. If both

characters appeared on the same number of lists,

then it was which character was ranked the highest.

out of all the lists that they did appear on.

So she were lost out in this tiebreaker to our

number 99, which is also going to probably open

up a can of worms on whether these characters

should qualify or not. It was hard for me to

eliminate them because some of them did appear

in an animated form, but it's also hard for me

to eliminate them because I don't know if there

was ever going to be an opportunity for us to

do a top 100 list, even though there was definitely

plenty of characters to choose from. And our

number 99 is going into the world of Muppets.

And that would be from, I guess, an iconic character,

especially for the younger generations, and that

would be Elmo. originated in one shape in 1972,

but was not named Elmo until 1985. Now, Dan,

was this something we should have outlined before

the lists were submitted, and do you think Muppets

should count for this, even though not all of

them necessarily were animated? I didn't include

Muppets in mine, just because I feel like they're

two different... They're two different things

for the most part. And yeah, there were some

like LBCF like Muppet babies or something like

that that you could argue. But I guess I always

I can I consider them separate. So I get the

idea like the thought process of OK, we're not

going to do a top 100 Muppets. So maybe we could

one day, I guess. But so for me, just because

I don't I didn't really consider them together.

I excluded them when I was putting my list together.

Elmo has appeared in 18 different shows or cartoons,

games, movies, etc. Amanda, do you have any problems

with Muppets being included in here or was that

just a flood by us in the rulemaking process

to not eliminate them off the bat? I think it

depends. I know that myself, I had a Muppet,

but my placement came because one of my favorite

books as a child was about this character, and

so I saw him in a different light on pages. I

don't know if he was ever in anything else that

was animated, but because he was drawn in a book

that... was so close to my heart, I was able

to place it. So I don't think that Elmo should

be disqualified because he has been in an animated

situation. He's in a ton of video games too now

for little kids, all kinds of stuff. So he is

essentially an animated character even if he

isn't his original self. Sketch, maybe you can

speak to this the most because you had this higher

than anybody else on your list. I did. And the

thing about Muppets, I didn't put too many Muppets

on my list. I think I put three total. And two

of them were for some Sesame Street. And it took

me a while to decide, OK, is it Big Bird or is

it Elmo? Is it Big Bird or is it Elmo? I think

I was coming down to the top 10 on that one.

Initially, I didn't want to include any Muppets,

because I thought that they didn't belong on

this list. But at the same time, I saw that they

were in consideration. And I thought, OK, so

if we're going to include Claymation and we're

gonna include other forms of animation then Muppets

are kind of an animation and whatever These are

iconic characters and Yeah, so I Decided to look

at it. Just you know everybody knows Elmo come

on Elmo is arguably the star of Sesame Street

at this point and for many many years, so I thought

he was well deserving of being way up on the

list. If he's not considered by disqualification,

I'm OK with that. But if we're going to include

Muppets, then Elmo should definitely be on the

list. That brings up a good question, Matt. If

Elmo has snuck onto the list as a Muppet character,

what's your expectation of how many other Muppet

characters should we see? Is that the only one

we should see? Should we see a dozen of them,

or are there only a few more that might have

a chat? Oh, man. Like, until I saw it get posted,

the two, like, which one of these two puppets

do you think is better on the, like, the countdown,

pre -countdown? Yeah. I didn't even think about

adding any puppet characters. And now it's, like,

a puppet beat She -Ra. I don't even know what

to think anymore. What a world we live in. Like,

She -Ra was, like, the last quarter of my list.

And it's like, I didn't even consider puppets.

And now it's like Elmo. So probably Big Bird,

maybe Cookie Monster. I'm going to say easily

three or four, if not more. All right. We'll

have to wait and see how many more Muppets appear

on the countdown and what kind of controversy

that stirs up for the listeners. Look, I would

love if Standler and Woolworth were on this list.

I didn't put them on my list because I didn't

think they should be. But I would crack up if

they made it. It's definitely some iconic characters

in the Muppet world for sure. 98. All right,

let's make our way to the next entry of the countdown.

Coming in only one point ahead of Elmo and She

-Ra, we're going to go to a more modern character

here that has not had very many incarnations

and has just recently been kind of introduced

to us. We're going to 2015, a character that

was introduced just last year in film. And that

would be from the Pixar film, Inside Out. We're

going with Joy. voiced by Amy Poehler, our second

female out of our three picks so far. Amanda,

is it too soon to put Joy on a list like this

or do you think it's worthy? I'm kind of torn

because Joy was a really great character. You

had to like her. You could really easily associate

with her. I think that she was really good for

kids. Hello, did I wake you? Do you have to play

that? Well, I have to practice and I don't think

of it as playing so much as hugging. Okay, first

day of school. Very, very exciting. I was up

late last night figuring out a new plan. Here

it is. Fear. I need a list of all the possible

negative outcomes on the first day at a new school.

Way ahead of you there. Does anyone know how

to spell meteor? Disgust. Make sure Riley stands

out today, but also blends in. When I'm through,

Riley will look so good, the other kids will

look at their own outfits and barf. Joy. Yes,

Joy? You'll be in charge of the console, keeping

Riley happy all day long. And may I add, I love

your dress. It's adorable. Oh, this old thing?

Thank you so much. I love the way it twirls.

Train of thought. Right on schedule. Anger, unload

the daydreams. I ordered extra in case things

get slow in class. Might come in handy if this

new school is full of boring useless classes,

which it probably will be. Oh, sadness. I have

a super important job just for you. Really? Mm

-hmm. Follow me. What are you doing? And there.

Perfect. This is the circle of sadness. Your

job is to make sure that all the sadness stays

inside of it. Not being a parent, I didn't see

how kids were really directly affected by her,

so I can't really... you know, speak in depth

on that. But I think that it might be a little

too early to put them on here because we haven't

even really had time to fully appreciate it.

I mean, you know, I know that people really,

really supported this film and sang praises for

it. So I guess I could be wrong because of the

baby's quality and not quantity in years. So

yeah, none of us on the on the record today had

joy listed on any of our list. Dan in session

film had it in their top 10. Worthy of such a

high position is number 98. Okay, or should it

not be on the countdown at all? I Think I think

98 a decent spot for a decent spot for joy top

10 seems Excessive to me, but you know, that's

the way it is. I Mean, I did enjoy inside out

a lot. It was the kind of return to form for

for Pixar As a character though, like I like

joy, but I don't know like I thinking of how

we mentioned previously when I looked at like

You know shows even I looked at companies to

like Pixar and if I was going to name my favorite

Pixar characters I don't know if joy would be

in the top five top ten of those. Yeah, cuz I

like I like that movie But I guess in a way it

wasn't because of her character if that makes

sense She wasn't adorable Amy Poehler was great

because she's Amy Poehler. She's created everything

she does But yeah, I think a 98 is a decent spot

for her. I have no issue including characters

that are relatively new, similar to we had like

newer TV shows. I think that's fine, so I don't

think that that should impact her, but for me

she just wasn't as strong as some of the best

characters Pixar has given us. And sketch jumping

off of that, if Joy is showing up, does that

mean we're in store for a plethora of Pixar characters?

Or do either of you think that there was other

characters in Inside Out that were more worthy

than Joy? I don't feel like any one character

in Inside Out stood out. If someone had just

said all of the emotions from Inside Out, I'd

be like, yeah, OK. And I feel like, honestly,

I feel like I missed something. I should have

been in my top 50, just that cast. But I mean,

yeah, I don't know. I like them. What about you

sketch? Do you think there's gonna be a lot more

Pixar character? There's a heading our way I

think there's gonna be a decent amount of Pixar

characters because there's there's a lot of beloved

Pixar characters I Did not expect anybody from

that movie. It's a great movie. It's very enjoyable

I feel like if you if you did a list of the best

groups characters like a cast of characters then

I would see it maybe up there because they have

great dynamic but individually Joy is a good

character but I don't think she really stands

out that much I think I might sooner give it

to sadness or anger by definition of that character

she's limited obviously so yeah exactly well

we'll have to wait and see if more inside out

characters are heading our way or exactly how

many Pixar films or Pixar Our characters will

get and if it will rival what Dan was a guessing

might be the the front -runner of Disney Obviously

they're hand -in -hand, but if we make the clarification

which one comes out on top 97 all right moving

on to a number and 97 I will say that this character

shocked me completely that it is showing up on

our countdown Maybe you guys will not be as shocked

as I am. We are going another company We've had

four different companies so far filmation Jim

Henson's Muppets We had Pixar and now we're going

into the world of the WB or Warner Brothers for

a character that first appeared on television

sets in 1993, our third female character. And

that would be from, I believe the Animaniacs

was the show that she appeared in, and that is

Slappy Squirrel. Oh, yes! Now, Slappy Squirrel

made it on the countdown because it appeared

in three different people's top 50. And it's

showing up on our list at number 97 because of...

The majority of us did not have it listed at

all. Sketch, you had a reaction there. What do

you think of Slappy Squirrel making it on the

countdown? And if she made it. Slappy Squirrel

is a fantastic character. I didn't put her on

my list because there's lots of really great

characters. I grew up. in the late 80s, early

90s. And I have a fondness for those 80s, 90s

characters from that era. And Slype of the Squirrel

on Animaniacs, like the whole cast of Animaniacs

is wonderful. And Slype of the Squirrel is a

great character because she is an interpretation

of an old cartoon character who's like over it.

And she doesn't want to deal with things anymore.

And she's hilarious. I love her. Amanda if you

were listing your top five animaniacs characters

would Slappy Squirrel even make that list? You

know, honestly, even though I've seen a ton of

animaniacs, I don't remember her. So probably

not. I think some animaniacs did show up on my

list, but definitely not Slappy. So sad to say

no. Dan, we've had four picks, three females

so far. What do you think? Pretty surprising

for she run not too surprising Slappy Squirrel.

I kind of shocked in a way. I mean, I know we

have a lot of huge Animaniacs fans that put a

list together, so maybe I shouldn't be surprised,

but I do think she's a great character. I didn't

consider her, not because she was always one

of my favorite parts of Animaniacs, but like

I mentioned previously, I kind of felt like...

There were more characters that are a bigger

part of that show, but she had some of my favorite

sketches, or I guess sketches if you want to

call them sketches, like the one where they're

at Woodstock, that's still one of the all -time

favorite moments for me for that show. So yeah,

she was always hilarious and with her, I forget,

her little nephew or whatever that would come

along, they were a great pairing. It was it's

very pleasant surprises here on this list as

highly ranked as number 13 amongst one of the

lists submitters your shares share stoner definitely

a great voice right there for slappy squirrel

and Maybe one that a lot of people didn't think

of but I guess as you think of her and if you

were to rewatch the show Maybe a character that

would stand out even higher than you remember.

All right, let's see where we go next 96 we're

heading to number 96 also a tie, our second tie

of the countdown so far. This individual character

tied with Slappy Squirrel, but came out on top

because it was on more lists. Going to yet another

company. We have not had a company repeated yet.

We're also going back a little bit further in

time than we have before. So we're going to go

to the world of Hannah Barbera in the year 1968

for this character that originated on one of

the Hannah Barbera TV shows. A male character

and our first, I guess, quote unquote, bad character.

The famously voiced by Paul Winchell character

Dick Dastardly at number 96. Sketch, you had

him at 46. He's showing up here at 96. Is it

not high enough for Dick Dastardly? No, I think

that's good. I put him high on my list because

I figured in the grand scheme of things, he would

end up towards the bottom as he should. But he's

a great character. Like Dastardly and Muddly.

fantastic villains character just that classic

twirling mustache bad guy that I mean he is he's

not Boris and Natasha but he's he's up there

Now! Now what went wrong? He's really a great

villain that you just... you love. He's hilarious.

Matt, we talked about how we might not, you know,

you expected that maybe we'd have more good characters

than evil characters, or bad characters, quote

unquote. If we're looking at just the world of

villains, is Dick Dasterly up at the top of the

villain cartoon characters? No, I think I'm gonna

have to agree with the sketch of this one. Like,

he's not the Boris and Natasha, he's not the

Skeletor. You said it and I had to Google it,

like, oh, it's that guy, Wacky Races, okay. Like

he didn't even come into my mind when I was that

I so like I said, I was focusing on Hannah Barbera

Like this, uh, this list is keeping me guessing

Dan do you remember much about dick dastardly?

And do you think he was deserving on being on

our top 100 in the first bad character? I do

actually have one reason too is because i'm reading

the wacky racers comic now for dc, which is very

different than Hannah Barbera It's like wacky

racers in the max universe How do they handle

Dick Dastardly in that? He's more of a anti -hero,

I would say. Interesting. Amanda, do you even

remember Dick Dastardly? I remember Mutley. But

that's because it was last. Right, exactly. That

was probably our first example, too, of a duo

that we had to consider if they were separate

or if they were a pair. So that was kind of the

first appearance of that in our account. down.

So interesting that our first villain from the

world of Hannah Barbera. We're going to go to

yet another company now as we go to number 95.

95. I don't know how many of you will recognize

this name but this character comes from the mind

and the creative genius of art, Cloakie. We're

going all the way back to the 1950s or none other

than Gumby. So Gumby comes in at number 95 only

one point ahead of dick dastardly and slappy

squirrel been around for a long time Gumby Amanda

top 100 worthy. He is on my list. Can you see

yes? He was at number 34 on your list He was

a big part of my childhood. I watched a lot of

Gumby He always kind of freaked me out though,

too Like I was a little scared of them like I

don't trust you gonna be all the way because

you can morph your body into all these different

shapes and His relationship with pokey pokey

was such a frickin Debbie Downer but they always

came through and did something pretty cool together

and had all these adventures and and went to

all these different worlds and I thought it was

kind of a cool concept that there was us, you

know, like regular people, and then there was

like Gumby, and you could, you saw that there

was, you know, the two, that it was very different,

and his whole world was based on imagination,

and it was great. There was a lot more creative

than a lot of things that were directed towards

that age group. Now, Sketch, you're very similar

to where Ameda, Ameda had it at 34, you had it

at 27. Are you a little bummed out that it's

appearing already in the list and it should be

higher, or do you like that he made the list

overall? I like that he made the list. I think

he should be at least in the 80s. but I'm okay

with it. I mean, the thing about Gumby is he

was really iconic for a time, but he hasn't really

been in, like, he doesn't really get noticed

anymore. And that's unfortunate, but I mean,

what you gonna do? Yeah. I mean, if I had kids,

I would seek out Gumby just to show them. Oh,

absolutely. to freak them out like you were freaked

out. Dan, your buddies, the other two thirds

of Talking In Circles, had Gumby in their top

20 at number 20, and you did not have it on your

list. Is there a difference in opinion between

the three of you, or just a character that didn't

quite make the cut? That's a good question. I

guess I just forgot about it when I was putting

my list together, and I probably should have

had Gumby listed. That was more of an error in

my mind parts. There's a lot of characters out

there. It's hard to... Similar to Amanda, Gumby

always kind of like freaked me out a little bit.

Like, I don't know, something about it always

seemed off. I would agree. I think it probably

should be higher because he was such a big character

for such a chunk of time, but he has been somewhat

forgotten. So maybe they need a little bit of

a Gumby Renaissance. Gumby -sance. Gumby -sance.

It can be voiced by Matthew McConaughey. I forgot

to mention last time with Dick Dasterly, we did

have a couple people that came real close because

Dick Dasterly was in that 96 spot and Steve Megatron

had it at 93 and behind the voice actors, Rice

and Curry had it at 92. So they were very close

on that one. I actually got pretty close here

with Gumby. He's coming in at the 95th spot and

I had it at number 97. So just barely sneaked

in, snuck into my list. So Matt, not on your

list, but do you think Gumby's deserving? Actually,

Gumby came up when we were making my list and

I was like, he's not a cartoon character. But

like, I don't know, I enjoyed Gumby as a kid.

I don't know that I'd put him on my list, though,

even if I wasn't making the rules that I was

making. Fair enough. All right, moving on to

our number 94 pick. Actually, two people on the

record today had this character in their top

15. 94. So maybe some disappointment out of a

couple of you. Also, our second Hannah Barbera

character and our second, quote unquote, bad

character. from the, originally from the 1960s.

We're going with Brack. Amanda, you had this

highest on the list out of the panel at number

13. So is this the same Brack that had his own

TV show? The Brack Show? Because that is what

I based this off. I didn't know he went back

that far. But he was on Space Ghost, right? Which

also came from the 60s. Yes. So I like Space

Ghost. I liked Brack the best. He was so freaking

weird. He looked so scary, but he was just so,

like, fun and you could love him. And he was...

you know, not the brightest crayon on the box,

but he like lived life and he did adventures

and he had a lot of funny things to say. He would

break out in songs and in like the Brack show,

I liked that they kind of brought him more into

the now. I thought it was funny that his parents

were normal and that he was whatever the fuck

he was. I had so much fun with him and he was

a part of my middle school childhood life. I

was watching late night cartoons and would see

him on Space Ghost and then on his own show.

There's definitely clips that I will still watch

now. If I had that, I would probably just pop

that in when I was cooking dinner or something.

He's super fun. You know how much you and Matt

disagree on things over the course of our episodes

in Cinema Geeks. Out of the thousands of characters

that you guys had to choose from, Amanda, you

had bracket 13, Matt had it at 14. What? Matt,

are you disappointed that he's coming up already,

or just happy that he made the list? Definitely

happy that he made the list, because I didn't

expect to see anyone from my list. Like, after

the first three or four, I was like, oh, my guys

are showing up. Shiraz, that high? I guess I

don't get an opinion here. Just as a warning,

Amanda, be very careful with Brack Show Season

2. It's very bad. A couple of years ago, me and

my buddies did what we call Brack Friday. So

on Black Friday, we watched all of Brack Show.

It's hard to get through season two. That's a

good idea. Season one, though, was so fun. Oh,

season one was a... He was, like, rapping and

stuff. Like, he was treating his dad, and it

was awesome. Yeah, and right now, every Saturday,

me and my friends are getting together. Since

C. Martin Crocker just died as a memoriam, we're

watching all of Space Ghost from episode one

to the end. Space Ghost Coast to Coast, you know,

the one he was actually on, not the 60s one.

Like, Brack's first appearance in the Space Ghost

Coast to Coast, him and his little brother Sisto

are just clone of Beavis and Butthead. Like,

to the point where I was like, is that Mike Judge?

Like, did they get Judge to do this? But no,

it's like Andy Merrill just doing his best impersonation.

I think he's absolutely deserving on this list.

Like he said, he's in my top 20. Like, love Brack.

Dan, like I said, the second Hanna -Barbera character

and they were both bad characters. Is Brack more

deserving than Dick Dastardly? I think so, mostly

because the way they were able to take that character

and completely do something different with it.

Like Manda's show, not many people even realized

that he was a character in the 60s, because Space

Ghost was a cartoon that was long forgotten by

most people. So they haven't really done that

with the rocky racers or anything like that.

So I do think so. And I think most of the people

that voted for it probably are voting not based

upon the original version of it, but... The updated

version which I actually I I don't know if I

even had him on my list But I was a huge fan

of space close coast to coast and he was always

a big part of it I actually never watched the

Brack show But I always found him very funny

when I was a kid and it scared me to realize

like I was watching that like when Before I was

in high school. That's all You brought up wacky

races again, which made me think that they are

actually supposed to be having a revival of that

series I think it's a Netflix original or a Netflix

exclusive Kicking around that idea for a while.

Yeah, it's been listed a bunch of times I don't

know if it's ever gonna actually happen with

that obviously not related to Brack necessarily

sketch What are your thoughts on Brack showing

up two places higher than dick dastardly? I'm

okay with that. Let's call this the adult swim

effect There's some of these Hanna Barbera characters

got revisioned Dramatically like if Brack from

the Brack show space goes coast to coast cartoon

planet if that Brack didn't exist Andy Merrill's

Brack Brack was not going to make this list at

all. No freaking way. He was such a minor villain

in Space Ghost. And Space Ghost is a largely

forgotten show. So I put Space Ghost on my list,

and that's mostly because of Space Ghost Coast

to Coast. And I would very likely see Zorak popping

up here somewhere. But because of Brack in that

interpretation, he's a lovable character. He's

very entertaining. He had multiple appearances,

got his own show spun off, and he's a lot of

fun. So I think it's great that he made the list.

I didn't vote for him myself, but I'm happy that

he made it. Think Zorak is more evil than yeah.

Oh, yeah See if who else from Frank's not really

evil at all outside of the original Space Ghost

Yeah, I guess that's why I labeled him. He's

just a big kid, right? All right for number 93

Let's actually stay in the world of Hannah Barbera

for our third Hannah Barbera character so far

in the countdown I don't know if I would have

listed him in my top ten Hannah Barbera characters,

but enough of you guys did We're talking about

the famously voiced by Don Messick and later

on Joe Alasky character of Droopy. So Droopy

comes in at number 93. He's had 18 different

shows, movies or games or whatever that he showed

up in. Sketch, you're the only one in the panel

that had him ranked on your list. You had him

at number 39. What do you think about Droopy

showing up again in this trio of Hanna -Barbera

characters we've seen so far? Droopy showing

up already. does not make me so happy. I think

Droopy should be up there a bit more. He's one

of those really iconic text -every characters.

And Droopy's had cameos in so many different

things. So he's had quite a lifespan, all things

considered. And he's just a great, fun character

that stood the test of time. Happy landing. probably

be right under that rock nope under this one

yeah I'm happy they made the list at all but

I think he should be at least I don't know maybe

the 40s he was ranked in the top 10 by TV's mr.

Neil he had him the highest number nine Dan do

you think he gets mic lost in the mix of characters

from that time period and that's maybe why he

didn't rank a little bit higher It was hard for

me when it came to Hannah Barbera because there's

so many freaking Hannah Barbera characters So

that could have been part of it, too I remember

like they had a it was a show in late in the

mid 90s and I was of droopy dog and I really

enjoyed that and oddly when I think of droopy

dog now I think of John Stewart's impression

of Mitch McConnell. That's like Only thing that

comes to my mind, but I'm weird like that But

uh, yeah, so I think that's kind of the hard

part when you have so many characters and you

have when you say Hannah Barbera And when I was

putting my list together, I'm like, okay, there's

like just looking at the list that's there There's

so many of them. So just by process of elimination.

I didn't want to have a list of 50 different

Hannah Barbera characters and right so I kind

of chose the top three or top four and then kind

of put the the rest of the side so maybe that's

The reason he's a lot of people a lot of people

might have left him below some other Hannah Barbera

characters and ended up not having room for him

And you had predicted early on that Disney might

dominate this countdown so far We are about what

eight picks in or whatever. We've had three Hannah

Barbera and zero Disney. Are you questioning

that prediction? No, that just makes me think

it's more in the top end like was with the movies

because we were we didn't have many Disney movies

to start off with and then like Top 50 on it

was like, all right. Here comes another Disney

movie. I'm guessing that's what's gonna happen

again Anybody else thoughts on droopy before

we move on to the next section next countdown.

All right of Disney, let's get there for the

first time. Number 92, coming from the wonderful

world of Disney, originating in a play from 1904,

and another female character so far. Amanda,

we'll start with you on this one. Number 92,

Tinkerbell. What do you think? I can dig it.

I think she's one of the first more powerful

female side characters that we get. And I think

that she really builds up like girl power and

I think that she definitely is not just a straight

good character I mean we see her do some stuff

that's you know not so uh good fairy -like and

I think that shows the dynamic of women like

we will be your best friend but we're also we

can be vicious too so watch out and I think that

she's a fun character and it's it's Super cool

that she doesn't speak and she has a different

communication style and and that adds to her

character And I think she's she's dynamic and

she's super cute as well So I can I can dig her

you weren't very far off You know it came in

at number 92 and you had her ranked at number

80 So not very far off at all behind the voice

actors rights and car He had this in his top

10 at number 60 had at the highest but sketch

Tinkerbell was also on your list a little bit

higher at 55 How do you feel about her coming

in at number 92? I think she should be higher.

I mean, if you think of Tinkerbell, she was like

the mascot of the wonderful world of Disney for

a long, long time. And I did want to include

some female characters that I felt were really

iconic. And the thing about Tinkerbell is beyond

her work as a mascot and also in Peter Pan, where

she's a very... Flip it character. Maybe not

the best interpretation But she also has this

whole line of direct -to -video movies now where

she is the heroine so that that brings a whole

nother level to the character and I think those

Versions in particular. I haven't really seen

them, but it seems like they're they're good

positive role models And I wanted to highlight

that in my list And on the other side, you have

the Tinkerbell who's kind of a brat, and it's

entertaining. So I like characters with multiple

personalities, I guess. There we go. Matt, I

asked Dan the same question last time. Do you

think Tinkerbell did not appear on a lot of lists?

Do you think that's another factor, like we were

talking about with Hannah Barbera, where there's

so many Disney characters that maybe people didn't

have room for another one in the form of Tinkerbell?

See, I don't know that that's a thing for Disney.

Like, if you say, like, I don't know if I want

to keep putting on Looney Tunes characters, that's

one thing. But if it's, like, Disney characters,

like, they're so iconic. Every Disney character

has, like, just a massive reach where, like,

people that might not have even seen the movie.

Like, I've never seen Peter Pan. I've seen as

much Tinkerbell in the Peter Pan movie as I have,

say, the Pirate Fairy. Like, I just... I have

a big gap in my knowledge, but I can recognize

Tinkerbell like that. I think with the Disney

characters, they're all like that. I imagine

if anyone had even a little bit of like of her,

she made it on the list. Our oldest so far, as

far as origin goes, all the way back to 1904.

Dan, surprised or not that Tinkerbell makes the

list? I'm actually more surprised she's on a

little higher. I think for me, I didn't have

her very high. or listed because as a character

just thinking of you know the Disney film within

itself she wasn't much of a character and like

uh sketch mentioned yeah she she had a huge impact

just being the icon that she was, but I guess,

again, when I was talking about raking the quality

of the character as a whole, as someone who's

not watched the direct -to -DVD animated Tinkerbell

movies because I'm 32 and I don't want to be

put on lists, I don't know her personality outside

of the movie. So I do, though, like she certainly

has her place, and maybe if we all clap, she'll

get higher, but I don't know. Excellent, excellent.

Alright, so Tinkerbell came in at number 92.

Number 91, only one point higher. Another female

character and another new company heard from

as we go to the world of La Liga. And we're talking

about the character that originated in the novel

from 2002, and then very shortly after that,

the film. And that would be none other than Coraline,

coming in at number 91. Dan, we'll go right back

to you. You had Coraline ranked at 55. Are you

upset that she's not higher or, like I keep saying,

just happy she's on the list? I'm just happy

she got invited. Think this is fine. I do I love

that movie and love her as a character You know

coming from Neil Gaiman book, and I thought the

representation of her in the movie was pretty

spot -on Well, I'm really surprised how many

female characters were starting off with not

that that's a bad thing But I'm just you know

knowing that this is mostly all guys putting

together. That's actually kind of impressive

a little bit I don't know if impressive is the

right word anyways, but I Progressive progressive

there you go when you have children Characters

it's that challenge of being inquisitive and

being annoying and she's inquisitive and Intriguing

she still feels like a legitimate character in

the way that she's not wise above a year She's

she's got a lot of growth with her and she's

got a very relatable story So that's three big

reason why I had her as high on my list as I

did so it top 20 for in session film and number

16 for Kristen Amanda you're a big fan of Coraline

but did not have room for her in your top 100.

So what did you think about this one? I thought

I did have her in my list, but if I didn't, a

little sad because I do share Dan's love for

Coraline. I think that her parents make her seem

a lot more annoying in time than she really is,

and it shows like the... their realization about

how much they love her through the film and how

much they kind of took her for granted. And I

think that she is somebody who is full of questions

and wonder and wants to know. And she definitely

went through something here that was unique.

And the story and the visuals were super amazing.

So I think her and her story are definitely deserving

of being on this list. All right. So a lot of

love for Coraline, which earned her a spot in

our top 100. Moving on to number 90 90 First

off. I do want to apologize ahead of time I should

have done this before we started the list But

as you guys hopefully know if you're listening

to us over at the cinema geeks We are currently

doing a retrospective series. We're going through

all of the films of Hayao Miyazaki and We're

only about halfway through so far so I have not

learned all the proper pronunciations from all

the characters from his films or slightly ignorant

to some anime as well. So when I mispronounce

stuff throughout the remainder of the countdown,

just forgive me beforehand. For number 90, we're

gonna go into that world from Princess Mananoke.

We're going to, hopefully I say this right, Ashitaka?

Ashitaka. Anybody? Prince Ashitaka. Close enough.

All right, Prince Ashitaka from the 1997 film.

Matt, I'll let you start because you are on the

Cinema Geeks, kind of the Miyazaki expert of

us. So what do you think of Prince Ashitaka coming

in at number 90? I think he's a great choice.

Like I said earlier, I kept anime off, but if

I had, he might have made my list. He's like

a great stock fantasy character where it's like,

this bad thing happens to him and he's a prince.

Now he's got to go on an adventure to save both,

to save his kingdom and his life. as well as

to like restore honor to his clan, which is a

very, you know, Eastern idea that culminates

in this massive sprawling magical story, like

great character, great story arc. This is a perfect

choice for a top 100. Thumbs up to whoever put

him on their list. Well, speaking of whoever

put him on the list, In Session Film had him

all the way up at number seven. That's the highest

anybody had it. Dan, you also had on your list

at number 33. What do you think of our first

entry as far as the world of anime goes? I'm

glad we have some, because I know that's always

an issue when it comes to any animated list,

when it comes to Geek Cast Radio, so that's great.

It's funny that this comes in what we're a couple

of weeks away from actually covering this movie,

so... Prince of Madden is my favorite Miyazaki

film, and he's a big reason why. Like Matt mentioned,

he's a great fantasy character. He has a strong

story, and as we're going through all those movies,

you really see those really rich characters that...

Have a lot of dimension to him and that's certainly

the case So I i'm happy very happy that he made

the list. I would have hoped he was maybe top

50 But you know with geocache radio when it comes

to anime you would grade on a curve So i'll just

say this is whatever 20 list, you know, whatever

he is now at 22 or minus 22 it and that's Really

really where he falls. Yeah, absolutely All right,

moving on to number 89 and another company that

we have not heard from yet. We're going to go

to the world of Amblin Entertainment. Actually

originated in a book, 1981, but more popularized

obviously in the film. And we're talking about

the one and only Roger Rabbit. Also appeared

on seven. List that's the highest we've had so

far appeared on seven of the 15 list But six

of those people had him in the you know, 60 70s

80s that range So that's why he's not any higher

even though he did appear on seven list The highest

he got was ranked at number 39 dan you had roger

rabbit at 77 He's coming in at 89 since we just

talked to you. Why don't you start here? What

do you think of roger rabbit making the list?

It was hard rink rink your roger ever because

it's it's one of those characters where he very

much is meant to be a representation or reflection

of other characters so it's like do you does

he count like do you how do you rank him as a

character that's where i struggled you know it's

like do i put him up higher so i i do feel like

you know roger rabbit is such a landmark animation

because of that he he's deserving to put on there

so i felt you know in the 70s was a good good

spot for him but you know he He can be a little

annoying as a character, but that's kind of the

point. But I do think just based upon the impact

of that movie and the characters within it, you

know. And the fact that he landed Jessica Rabbit

somehow, you got to give him props for that.

So yeah, his rankings on the list were 77, 63,

66, 85, 58, 39, and 82. So a little bit of a

range, but a lot of people here in that 60 to

80 range, Amanda, you were one of them at 82

and you came in at 89. So do you think that's

pretty spot on? Uh, yeah, I do, because it's

only a few off of mine, and I like to be right.

But I agree with Dan. He's kind of annoying,

but he's got to have, like, mad game if he got

Jessica Rabbit. I don't know what was up with

that. But I think that he had a ton of heart.

He was super selfless. He had the best of intentions

for everything that he did, and I think that

he's a really good... you know, a solid character.

Matt, as far as the little one -on -one versus

matchups, and one of them that we did post was

Roger Rabbit versus Jessica Rabbit as far as

which one was the better character. If we're

seeing Roger Rabbit on 89, at the 89 spot, does

that mean that we will not see Jessica Rabbit,

or does that mean we should expect to see her

even higher? So part of me wants to be like,

she's probably lower. Just, I mean, because the

story, it's not her story. I mean... and it kind

of is, but it's not really. But at the same time,

you said these lists are almost all guys and

she's Jessica Rabbit. So I don't know how to

swing this one. I think if I put him on my list,

I probably would have put him above her. So that's

what I'm gonna go with. I actually have a lesbian

friend that I went to school with and she shared

her experience when she first realized she was

gay was when she saw Jessica Rabbit. I can believe

it. So I'm sure, yeah. I'm like, yeah, I can

see that. I'm pretty sure she made a man out

of a lot of boys. Sketch, you had Roger at 58.

A little upset that he's not higher? No, not

at all. I think particularly Roger Rabbit is

a character that I included more so because of

the movie and how big of a deal that movie was.

As a character himself, he's a good character.

He's an interesting character. He is kind of

a flanderization of various other characters

all combined into one. But as a singular character,

he's all right. But because of the movie being

that important, I feel like that brings him up

to a certain level. But I wouldn't have him higher

than this. All right. I haven't mentioned it

because I guess I haven't wanted to point it

out. But when we get to number 88, it's going

to be the first character that's actually been

on my list for, let's see, I'm on a drought here.

The last six characters did not make my list.

So we're finally at one that was on my list.

So I'm going to have somebody to talk about hopefully

here at number 88. Going back into the world

of anime and going to the character that first

appeared in the 1951 manga, we're talking about

the classic, maybe the godfather, I guess, to

a lot of Western audiences as far as anime goes.

We're talking about Astro Boy. from way back

when, so Astro Boy coming in at number 88. Dan,

you had him at 66 and I had him at 67, so we

were almost lockstep on that. What do you think

about Astro Boy showing up on the countdown?

He's the one I don't honestly have a huge amount

of experience with. I do remember the recent

film that was, I wanna say a decade ago, was

really. Like my major experience with him, but

this is one I ranked solely honestly on reputation

Just because I know what his place within animation

is is pretty astounding Expanded years. I know

there's been video games. It's He's a huge major

character kind of along the lines of speed racer

So because of that and because of you know his

impact on the genre That's kind of where I ranked

him and why I put him on my list I think we posted

a matchup of Astro Boy and speed racer Maybe

I could be wrong, but I don't think it got any

comments which surprised me But maybe that's

more so because a lot of people have experience

with the character and I'm like you Dan I mainly

ranked him based on reputation and the fact that

I just thought from a from an impact standpoint

He deserved a spot on the list sketch. You maybe

know a little bit more about Astro Boy You had

him all the way up at number 23. What do you

think of Astro Boy showing up on the countdown?

Maybe I look like a poser, but honestly, I don't.

I just know that Tetsuo and Adam is a huge character

around the world. And to this day, it's still

very popular. And it was one of the, I mean,

honestly, the first big anime hit in America

and other parts of the world. He's a good character.

He's a good archetype. I feel like he's a lot

like Mega Man to make a video game character

comparison. And it's also kind of like a modern,

not a modernization per se, but like a scientific

version of Pinocchio. And he's a good character.

He's an earnest character. He's a lot of fun.

He does all these cool things with all the weapons

that he has. He has he has guns in his butt.

So does that. But the most I've seen of Astro

Boy is a little bit of the old shorts. I saw

them. They ran them on Adult Swim for a while

because apparently Mike Lazo, head of Adult Swim,

adores Astro Boy. So they played a whole bunch

of that. And the 2000 something series that aired

briefly on Kids WB and Toonami. And I saw some

of that and it seemed all right, but it was also

kind of not the best dub. So I didn't pay too

much attention to it. But I like the concept

a lot and the character is enjoyable by himself.

I just think he's really iconic and therefore

I put him really, really up there on my list.

Amanda, a character that has a lot of history.

Have you ever seen anything involving Astro Boy?

I know what he looks like. All right. Before

your time, for the most part, 87 going to number

87. Again, my apologies if I'm saying this wrong.

Tetsuo from Akira. Correct pronunciation of Tetsuo.

Canada. So from the character that originated

in the 1982 manga, another anime character, Dan,

you had him ranked fairly high on your list right

around the midway point. What do you think of

him showing up here at number 87? Is this a first

for animated countdown with keycast radio to

anime characters back -to -back? Before and three

out of the last four. I know Wow, that's I'm

that's pretty cool I remember when I came out

or at least when it was big in growing up as

a kid in the you know 80s and 90s when the only

way you can get it was like if you called the

8800 number or whatever or got a pirated copy

or you know So that's a big reason why Keira

hold a place with me You want to call it an 800

number or a 900 number? Because that's confusing.

What are you doing here? What'd you call an 800

number for a TV show? You're going to have to

call it and order it and stuff like that. Like,

you kind of just, like, you know. Yeah, the commercial's

on TV. Check out this amazing animation from

Japan. Oh, it was, like, a mail order thing?

Like, you had to, like, get it in the mail? Yeah.

It's for those of us that lived before the internet.

Yeah, you kind of just like download things so

it was weird like That's but anyways, I do feel

like Kara's often the first anime film when people

talk about anime when that are Maybe have a general

knowledge of it. They're like, oh you mean like

Akira and uh because of that like I felt like

he had a place in my list and I don't know as

a character if he's super strong, but Do you

enjoy that movie a great deal? So similar to

roger rabbitt in the way ranking him because

of the impact of the film was the same mindset

here a lot of love from the movie podcast submitters

because in session film had him at Number 12

and the first time we're mentioning simplistic

reviews since the introduction Add them all the

way up at number two. That is, I think, the highest

we've seen show up so far. So add them all the

way to number two. And simplistic reviews are

probably not listening anymore because we've

only had two people that have shown up on their

list so far with Brock and Dick Dastardly. So

a character showing up all the way up at number

two on their list. Matt, I know you like a lot

of anime, but you disqualified them. If you were

including them, how high would this character

land on your list? Oh, I have a... I don't know.

I feel like I have a sort of history with Akira.

It was one of the very first things that really

cemented anime in my mind. It was this and Princess

Mononoke. I saw them in like late middle school.

And then I was like, they're doing, like, this

is probably when I stopped caring about Looney

Tunes. It was like, what is America doing? Like,

why are we even trying? Because Japan's got us

beat. And I love Akira. But at the same time,

I haven't seen it in 15 years. And so it's like,

I, I would put someone on my list from it if

I was doing anime just because of the reference,

but I can't really point to one of the two really

big characters and be like, this one's more important

or this one's more entertaining. Gotcha. All

right, so like Dan said, the second anime in

a row and the third and the last four picks.

We'll have to see if that trend continues. I

just want to chime in here. Go ahead. I don't

think Tetsuo is worthy of this list at all. I

don't think he's a good enough character. Why

do you say that? He's just kind of a whiny brat

Really? It's the movie itself is stunningly animated

Definitely a classic anybody who loves animation

should see Akira, but Tetsuo is a character He's

like an annoying brat. He gets superpowers He's

overwhelmed by them. And then he's he's just

he's not that good a character. I Don't like

him Maybe it's personal bias that I just don't

like the guy But yeah, if he's on this list,

I think he should be more in the 90s. But whatever.

I think I'm actually going to have to agree with

him, because I couldn't remember whether he was

the antagonist or protagonist. And it sounds

like he's the end. Well, Kaneda is not that good

either. Oh, OK. I feel like if Sketch saw my

list, he'd be very upset, especially my top 10.

Here's why I like Kaneda, because he was voiced

by Cam Clark in that one dub. Nice Alright so

some dissenting opinions here on the Akira character

showing up so Definitely listeners will have

to chime in and let us know what you guys think

of that appearance or not 86 as we move on to

number 86 We're gonna have a couple firsts here

first the first care first time we had a character

that originated in the 70s 1973 first time we

had a character that originated on a comic strip

and the first time we've seen a character from

the company, regardless of which version you

go to, either Ruby Spheres or Deke Entertainment.

For number 86, we're going to Heathcliff, the

lovable cat Amanda. We had a matchup on the Facebook

page, Heathcliff versus Garfield. Where do you

sit on that debate? And is Heathcliff worthy

of being on our list here at number 86? I think

Heathcliff can be here if Garfield is much higher,

which I'm thinking he probably is. Although I

think that maybe we should have Done this the

matchup and forced either one out like I think

that they're pretty similar, but I think Garfield

definitely ranks above Heathcliff It's kind of

similar personalities. I remember a lot more

Garfield than I do Heathcliff, but I think that

Heathcliff is kind of like quintessential 80s

kind of vibe, even though he came out in 70s,

right? 1973, as far as the comic strip goes.

I felt like it was like 70s though. The first

cartoon was more so in 1979, 1980, 81, that range.

And it was definitely more, you know, fun and

gritty. Like, Duke was on the street. Like, Garfield

was just chilling in his house. You know what

I mean? Like, this Duke was... Heathcliff had

the street cred. Yeah, he had the street cred.

Anybody else on that debate between Heathcliff

and Garfield, and if Heathcliff has shown up

in 86, should we expect Garfield to still show

up later on in the countdown? I have a comparison

to make. Heathcliff is like if you mash together

Garfield and Topcat. Yeah, I think that's a pretty

good comparison there. I always felt like overall

Heathcliff was a poor man's Garfield, but literally

a poor man's Garfield. He's out on the street,

right? Some people don't get hand to their lasagna.

They have to dig through the garbage for it,

OK? That's right. But Heathcliff was always like

with the fish bones. Now, Heathcliff and his

whole crew just, I'm OK with the pain on the

list. If you get to bring the Cadillac Cats,

Heathcliff gets some bonus points. Yeah, it is

a better supporting cast overall, maybe. But,

nah, I like Garfield way more. Heathcliff made

it onto number 81 on my list. It comes in at

number 86. Dan, obviously not on a lot of people's

lists. They showed up on six lists overall. Do

you think he's worthy or not? Worthy, I don't

know. I guess so. I was never Heathcliff fan

personally I just every time I watched the show

as a kid. I just was bored I don't know why it

just did not click with me and I guess I'm like

I'd rather watch Scarfield because I find them

funny I never found Heathcliff funny. So I guess

you could say he's certainly disturbing because

he was pretty prominent character for such a

long time But as a character is just simply the

quality of it. I was never a fan of it. So I'm

indifferent overall I also forgot to mention

that it's another first. It's the first time

that we have seen a character voiced by the legend

himself, Mel Blanc. I would only expect that

we're going to see a few more along the way.

Oh, that's right. Matt, what do you think about

Heathcliff coming in right now? Like, I want

to rep Heathcliff because I feel like Garfield

stole shit and then got more popular. That might

be true. It's like if you've ever seen the robot

chicken court case of Heathcliff v. Garfield.

I feel like they said it out, you know, humorously,

but they said it out pretty well. Like Heathcliff

was created when Jim Davis was two years old.

Like, and then Jim Davis shows up like, I'm just

gonna make a funnier Heathcliff and give him

a better life. And like, I feel like, you know,

no doubt Garfield's more popular, more known

worldwide, bigger pop culture influence. But

it's like, he's just a copycat, if you will.

That's a fair point. He has a fair point. We'll

have to wait and let the debate for about Heathcliff

and Garfield rage on and maybe we'll have to

revisit it if Garfield shows up later on in the

countdown. We'll have to wait and see. Moving

on to number 85. Going back to a female character,

it's been a little bit, and we're also back to

a character, an anime character, Dan, and that

is number 85, Nausica. You had Nausica rated

the highest at 18. What do you feel like coming

all the way down here at number 85? It's funny

because you know six months ago she wanted to

be on my list but because we because doing the

retrospective we did get a chance to watch Nosca

Valley of the Wind and I was just really surprised

by how much I really enjoyed that character and

when we talked about the film and you know, I

won't go into huge detail here, but just the

Like complication she was dealing with as a character

and all the different things she had to level

where she had all these different forces trying

to kind of come together and take over this world

and she I don't know it was I just felt like

her overall plate was really intriguing and as

a character that she's always surprised me I

didn't recognize you it's been over a year now

it's great to see you thank you for helping me

with that arm you've certainly mastered that

glider of yours you think so father says I have

a long way to Oh, yes. I forgot all about this

little fellow. He's the reason I got in trouble

with the Om. Wow. Is that a fox squirrel? I've

never seen one. I hadn't, either. I saw an insect

carrying him off, and I mistook him for a human

baby. I had no choice but to use my gun. Oh,

so that's why the Om was so angry with you. He's

quite spirited. Apparently, he didn't inhale

too much of the jungle's poison. Better not touch

him. Even the babies are vicious. Come on. It's

okay. Careful. There's nothing to fear. Nothing

to fear. See? Nothing to fear. Before that, I've

watched a lot of men's UV films, but going back

to that one, seeing that for the first time,

knowing it's really his first big epic and first

really creator -owned, like this is him coming

out party, I just was really impressed with how

she kind of set this... stage for a lot of characters

that were to come. So I felt like, in a way,

ranking her that high was in almost representation

of a lot of the characters Manjugi was creating,

because there are elements of her that I think

you can probably put in a lot of his best characters.

So because of that, I had her in my top 20. I

mean, obviously, I would prefer if she was higher.

But like I said, when it comes to anime, in this

list, we tend to grade on a curve. So I'm happy

that she's at least here. Matt, this is, let's

see, the fourth anime character that's come up

here. We had Ashitaka, Astro Boy, Tetsuo, if

I'm saying any of those right, and now Nasuka.

How do you feel as far as the ordering of that

goes, and do you think they're all worthy, or

is Nasuka specifically worthy of being in the

top 100? I've said it probably every time we've

done a movie in the Miyazaki retrospective. I

would rate the lowest Miyazaki movie like a seven

and most of them around the 10 range. You're

never gonna hear me complain about a character

making it on this list, even if it's just like,

how about the younger sister from Totoro? It's

like, they're all deserving. Like, I could do

a top 100 Studio Ghibli characters list without

batting an eye. So like, I just hope other characters

make it higher. That's my piece on that. All

right, Sketch, you were... The dissenting opinion

first as far as the last anime character goes,

do you think Nausicaa is more deserving? Very.

I think Nausicaa is a great character. She's

really the art type for Miyazaki's heroine characters.

As Daniel said, you can see her personality in

many of the other characters to come after her.

And if you look back on Nausicaa the Valley of

the Wind is a fantastic movie. I feel like Miyazaki

was really on point with all of his social commentary

in that movie in particular, and it's kind of

gotten out of hand since then. But Nausicaa as

a character is a very strong female character.

She fights her own battles. She's trying to bring

together these two worlds. And it's really she's

admirable as a character. And there's not that.

many really great female anime characters that

I can think of, and Nausicaa's definitely up

there. Amanda, you just recently obviously watched

this for the spotlight as well, but Nausicaa

did not make your list. How close was she? Besides

the fact that she's a really great character

and, you know, a strong female lead, super likable,

very skilled, and worthy of the respect that

you see that she gets, I just... didn't I wasn't

as impacted by her as as a lot of the other characters

on my list like this is a very nostalgic for

me and she just didn't find any room there because

I had so many other picks that I thought were

more deserving based on the impact that they

actually had on my life or as I thought this

is an adult and Wasn't really impacted. All right.

I mean I enjoyed the story and I think that she

was fun But just wasn't as impactful for me.

Makes sense All right, next up on the countdown,

number 84. Possibly the Sophie's choice of the

countdown, perhaps, as one of you brought up

in the introduction. How do you choose between

four brothers? Well, number 84, we have from

the original 1984 Mirage comic book, Donatello,

which I guess will lead to a lot of questions

amongst the group. How do you go about rating

these guys? Do you rate all four of them? Do

you pick your favorite Amanda? How do you feel

about Donatello? He's not my favorite turtle,

but I definitely dealt with the same kind of

conundrum here. I'm like, I can have all five

of them on here easily, but I did just stick

with my absolute faves. I forced myself to just

pick. And I think I went with, should I even

reveal that yet? I think it went with Michelangelo

and Raphael. I was Raphael like three times for

Halloween when I was little. So I had to put

him on there. But you know, Donnie, he's a good

solid choice. You know what I mean? If you're

gonna go with the group, I guess go with the

leader. So there you go. Dan do you think it

plays into their detriment when it comes to a

list like this that there was four of them that

were Not necessarily one ever might not have

ever stood out above the others as far as the

depictions and the cartoons or the movies You

might have had your own personal favorite, but

does that does the fact there was four of them

hurt their chances more in a countdown like this

I think so because it's really Just which one

you kind of waited to most really. I mean like

which one like Michelangelo you get probably

the most popular perhaps but then you go to Leonardo

who's the probably the you know the pseudo leader

so it's challenging if you vote them together

I guess and so that that's that's hard because

they're so you know they're so tied to one another

in a way when we talked about inside out and

how joy by definition was a limited character

it's just kind of the same type of process with

the turtles. They're meant to be, yes, their

own individual characters, but they're meant

to complement one another, so that kind of makes

it complicated. So when I ranked them, I just

went with which one I personally had more relation

to, which I think was Donatello, but I don't

think I could argue that he's a better character

than any of the other ones. Sketch, you also

had Donatello listed on your ranking. Do you

think he's the most deserving of the turtles?

Should we expect to see more turtles if we see

Donatello at this number, or what are your thoughts?

I would not be surprised to see Raphael or Michelangelo

show up. Unfortunately, Leonardo is kind of the

weakest link in most interpretations. He's just

kind of boring. So I don't think we'll see Leonardo,

but I would easily see Mike or Raph pop up. I

almost had one or both of them on my list, too.

I decided to go with Donatello. For one thing,

to fill a niche, I didn't really have a geek

character except for Donatello. and there are

certainly some other arguably more iconic geek

characters, but as far as a well -rounded character

who is also iconic, very popular, has had many

interpretations, I think Donatello is like the

quintessential geek superhero character in a

lot of ways. Yeah, that's a good point. I really

like every interpretation of Donatello. I do

not in fact like every interpretation of all

the turtles. I think in the 2003 series, Leonardo

was really strong. I like Leonardo in the 2012

series, maybe the most of all versions of Leonardo

because he's also kind of a nerd and that's a

good addition to his character. Michelangelo

is a bit insufferable in the 2003 cartoon because

he's the comic relief and they kind of just thrust

everything onto him to break the tension. Raphael's

good in pretty much everything and Donatello

even more so. So I feel like no matter what interpretation

of Ninja Turtles you have, Donatello is great.

In the 2007 animated movie, I wish there was

more Donatello because that kind of snarky um

over it interpretation of Donatello where it's

like I can't believe I have to deal with this

crap still is a great version of Donatello and

I feel like the 2012 version of Donatello is

a lot like that but maybe a little bit more toned

down but a sarcastic kind of high -strung Donatello

is even better than a really smart nerdy one

so I think overall every version of Donatello

is great but Donatello among the turtles if I

had to only pick one even though Michelangelo

for many years was by far my favorite turtle

plus if we're going to throw video games into

this you're always Donatello in the video games

come on everybody's Donatello. met he brings

up a good point about don't tell being a geek

character in this obviously a geek cast radio

network does that make sense that he is the turtle

that showing up or should we expect a couple

more i mean as an interesting power is that he

didn't have enough deep representation i guess

like i didn't think about that uh... everyone

approaches these lists differently And hearing

so many people say that Raphael and Michelangelo

are hyper popular is weird because like those

two I would rate really low in my turtles experience.

So like Donatello would be my one or two and

him showing up now like to me it's like well

are they really gonna put Leonardo above Donatello?

Like if no other turtles... showed up, I wouldn't

be surprised. But if another turtle showed up,

I also wouldn't be surprised. If I had put them

on my list, I would have put all four turtles

together because, again, it's hard to separate

them out. Okay. Well, it's been a while since

we had a tie, so let's head to one next. tying

here for in the 82nd slash 83rd spot with 259

points. We have two different characters. Let's

start with the loser of the tiebreaker. And that

would be our first character from the world of

Hasbro as certain people may be rolling their

eyes out there. Originated in the 1982 comic

book. Also been a while since we had a bad character.

So let's go to with number 83 choice Cobra. Commander.

Interesting here was in one person's top 10 and

two one person's top 20 and one person's top

25 so the people that ranked him ranked him very

high. I'll start because when it came to villains

especially like 80s cartoon villains or action

villains I kind of used what we talked about

Dan in the beginning where if I was going to

put one on there I narrowed it down to just probably

just one. because obviously there's a ton of

those type of archetype characters, I guess you

could say. So Cobra Commander did actually not

make my list at all, but he is here nonetheless

on the countdown here, number 83. Dan, is he

the best out of the 80s action villains or is

he not deserving to be mentioned here in the

top 100? The best out of 80s action villains.

That's a good question. I guess you would have

to just. based on popularity, you know, him and

like Megatron are probably would be neck and

neck. I was always more of a G .I. Joe fan personally

than Transformers. So I would say, yeah, I would

lean toward Cobra just but as a character, I

don't really think he's super strong. I think

I'm actually I'm happy where he's at. I'm actually

surprised he's not up much higher. He just was

I don't know, like he was just the 80s villain.

He's evil and Talks kind of like a snake, but

uh, I don't know Yes commander, I am about to

make the first test By tomorrow the united states

shall be ours so like he he was always fine character

for me, but to me he was always more more memorable

because of the way he looked and his actual characteristics,

so. Yeah, definitely had an iconic voice too

from Chris Lada that we, same voice obviously,

very similar that what he used for Starscream.

Matt, any love for Cobra Commander or how do

you think he rates when it comes to ranking characters

like this? Well, I messed up. I did a shorter

list. I didn't do the full 100, and I put the

G .I. Joes at the very end of my list, and none

of the Cobra guys. But thinking on it, I feel

like the G .I. Joes, like, I don't know, I don't

really feel like a connection to any one of them.

Like, no G .I. Joe stands out, but with the Cobra...

the Cobra Enterprise, like Cobra Commander, Baroness,

like Destro, they're all, I feel like, more fleshed

out individual characters. Like, I'm glad he

made it the top 100. He may be a little bit higher

than he deserves. But when you compare action

guys, and you're saying Cobra or Megatron, it's

like, where's Skeletor at in this? Is he not

action enough? Another 80s action villain. Yeah,

there's quite a few you could go to. There's

a lot of them out there. Even someone like Shredder

or someone could probably qualify as... Absolutely

Shredder! Come on, Shredder and Krang. Oh my

gosh, Krang. Krang is fantastic. Catch, what

do you think about Cobra Commander? I think Cobra

Commander is a good 80s villain. I think for

a while I was debating between him and some others.

I mean, kind of the archetype for that would

have been Skeletor, I feel. and maybe Cobra Commander's

kind of pretty much as good. I feel like there

are maybe better 80s iconic supervillains, but

Cobra Commander, he is a great character, fantastic

voice, very iconic. I'm not too surprised to

see him on the list. I think he's placing a little

too well on the list, but I'm not necessarily

opposed to him being here. I may be more opposed

depending on what other iconic villains pop up,

but I don't know. It's really hard to say. There's

also multiple interpretations of this character.

The short -run G .I. Joe Renegades, I think,

was the name of the show that was on the hub.

That one, Cobra Commander, was a really commanding

presence. And I like that interpretation of Cobra

Commander. The old 80s one, I may turn some heads

here, but I feel like G .I. Joe is better than

Transformers Generation 1. So in that way, I

would maybe... But it's weird, because I think

I would still rate Megatron over Cobra Commander.

But, man, I don't know. In our 80s tournament,

our 80s villain tournament... We did a few years

back. Cobra Commander did not make it to the

finale. I believe the finale of that was Skeletor

and Megatron. Amanda, any thoughts on all these

boys action cartoons from the 80s and the villains?

Do you think Cobra Commander is worthy? I don't

have a ton of experience with G .I. Joe. It was

before my time, a little bit there with, you

know, I think in this time I was watching like

Sesame Street and stuff where you guys were getting

down on Transformers and all that where I know

a little bit more about Transformers than I do

G .I. Joe and, you know, I dug the new movies,

like the live action movies, I dug them. I think

that definitely iconic voice work and definitely

somebody that people know. He's, you know, pretty

big in pop culture. So I can definitely agree

with him being on the list as far as ranking.

I'm not sure. I mean, yeah, sure. He's a good

spot at this one. All right Moving on then to

the person that won the tiebreaker with Cobra

commander and going back somewhere where we haven't

been for a little while Let's go back to the

world of Hannah Barbera interesting that they're

both in this part of the countdown going to the

1966 original TV character here space ghost himself

So we had Brock earlier, now we get Space Ghost.

Matt, let's start with you. I don't even know

what to say. Like, he's been around for forever.

He had a TV show in the 60s that was terrible.

Like, I don't know if anyone on the panel's ever

watched it, but the original Space Ghost show

had a pretty simple format. Space Ghost is a

badass superhero. He finds himself without his

powers, and then a monkey saves him every single

episode. But that Gary owns. It's unreal. But

then, again, revived in the 90s with Space Ghost

Coast to Coast. He then has appeared in a lot

of other things, like the Bragg Show, I believe

12 Ounce Mouse, probably Aqua Teens, considering

they started on his show. He's one of my favorite

characters in any form ever. I have a costume

that I should not wear because I'm a large guy

and it's very white. I can't talk enough about

how much I love Space Ghost. I spent way too

much money on Space Ghost. Matt, you are the

first person to see their number one pick fall.

Are you sad about that? I am not surprised. I'm

actually surprised I made the list even at all.

Like I said, my list is not the normal list.

Dan, reading off the rankings that people gave

to Space Ghost outside of number one for Matt,

we had a 50, a 68, a 69, a 76, and an 83. So

it seems like there's some agreement as far as

the placement goes falls a little bit down here

to number 82. What do you think of Space Ghost

being another Hanna -Barbera character that appears

so far on the list? I think this is a pretty

good spot for him. Like Matt mentioned, I think

this is all in like with Brack. This is I think

more of a ranking based upon the re -imagining

of the character in the 90s. And that show that

came out Coast to Coast in the mid 90s was so

ahead of its time. It really pioneered the whole

adult swim movement that came. It's just watching

it now, just like the awkward humor. Like I'm

surprised he. they were able to get away with

what they did at that time. I'm sure getting

the celebrities on the show that they were able

to and having them interviewed by a cartoon,

I can imagine how confused everyone was at the

time. So he was just like this really unique,

not only character, but me re -imagining for

what Cartoon Network was going to be. It wasn't

just going to be a place where you watch old

cartoons over and over again. And maybe some

people prefer that, but I think because of the

impact he has as a character. Originally and

then later in his second life. Uh, he's certainly

deserving and you could probably argue maybe

should be a little higher than he is but Yeah,

I'd like to go to maybe he gets negative points

for being so bad previously It could be could

be I'd like to go to Amanda next because Amanda

you had brock all the way up at her bra at 13

Space ghosts not on your list at all. I do enjoy

some space ghosts. I just I did the duel between

Brack and Space Ghost, and instead of having

them both on, since they were both kind of grouped

together with my exposure, the first time I even

saw Brack was on Space Ghost Coast to Coast,

but I ended up... Identifying more with Brack,

if that makes any sense. But I think Space Ghost

is definitely iconic, definitely deserving of

being on this list. He was hilarious. I really

enjoyed Coast to Coast. I thought it was super

fun, him interviewing the celebrities and whatnot.

And his humor was definitely dull, definitely

funny. I want to go back and watch this as an

adult now. And I think I'll enjoy it even more.

But it was definitely a fun time. And his cohorts

and him have a great relationship. He tried to

be a ladies man, didn't he? He tried to put the

mic down, I think, and it was hilarious. Sketch

any comments on Space Ghost before we make our

way to the next entry? Yeah, Space Ghost Coast

to Coast is a fantastic show. A real pioneer

for that kind of humor for older viewers. And

it really opened the doors to Adult Swim. And

Adult Swim is huge now. It's like one of the

most successful networks on television now. And

Space Goes Coast to Coast is a show, is very

entertaining. It's really dry. It's kind of an

odd humor to it. But you took a really earnest,

by the book, super powerful superhero from way

back when, and you turned him into a narcissist

asshole. who interviewed celebrities and it was

always funny. And the one thing that I'm sad

about here is I'm pretty sure we're not gonna

have Zorak on this list now, if Space Ghost is

at this. Maybe not, maybe not, but if Zorak doesn't

make it, I'll be a little disappointed. He wasn't

on my list because as far as characters go, I

feel like he falls off the list just a little

bit. But I think this is generally a good place

for Space Ghost, maybe a little higher. But if

Zorak doesn't make it, that's a shame. And rest

in peace, Martin C. Croker. Absolutely. 81. All

right, making our way to number 81. We've only

had two other characters on this side of the

year 2000 until now. So this is our third post

2000 character. Also our second Pixar character.

We're gonna go from the 2007 film Ratatouille

with number 81 on the countdown being Remy. sure

to make at least one GeekCast Radio Network person

rolling his eyes and upset, but hey, he's not

here, so we don't have to deal with that. Are

you talking about Mike? Yes. Oh, punch him right

in the face, right in his eyeballs. So Amanda,

let's start with you. You had Remy ranked at

number 72, he comes in at number 81. How do you

feel? Pretty good, because that's pretty damn

close. I love Remy. That movie makes me, it just

really... really happy like it's such a feel

-good movie it makes me hungry it makes me think

of sitting in the living room with my family,

eating some nice cheese and having crackers and

watching this mouse really do something that

he was passionate about. He really was passionate.

He went against everything that he was and everything

his family told him that he should be and went

against his species really and did something

awesome because he was passionate about it and

he followed through with it and he got a little

disheartened but the camaraderie that he built

up with his new friends and managed to kind of

mend some relationships that he was having issues

with. really was heartfelt, and I loved it, and

I think that I want a sequel. I don't know if

it would be as good as Ratatouille, but I think

that I would like to see more of Remy and his

relationships. Dan, you had this one ranked as

well, as did I. I had it a little bit lower.

I had it at 98. Dan, you had it all the way up

at number 36, a little disappointed that it's

on this side of the halfway mark and coming out

already, or just happy to see another Pixar character?

I mean, I'm happy seeing a Pixar character. I

do think he maybe should be in the other side

of the top 50. You know, just being a huge Ben

Oswald fan, I think he led a lot of personality

to that character through his four years. And

he's just a really good everyman character. Anyone

who's ever had a dream of doing something that

is outside the norm of the box that maybe society

puts on you. And I think there's a lot of great

representation for that character. And it's...

It's an odd story of a mouse who wants to be

a chef, but that's kind of what's great about

it. So I don't know. I've always found him really

appealing. And, you know, there's not a lot of

like, you know, with a lot of some of these characters,

you know, that they have an iconic look to them,

or they have certain aspects to them, like a

Donatello that's part of the Ninja Turtles, where

this is just kind of a rat with a dream. But

that's simple in that way. So. To me, one of

the stronger Pixar characters, as we mentioned

with Inside Out, how those characters as a whole

work together, but individually not so much,

where Remy, I feel, now did as he was the biggest

part of that character, or that movie, obviously,

so. Well, so three of us had Remy ranked and

two did not. Does that mean that there are some

dissenting opinions on the panel from Matt and

Sketch, or just not enough room for Remy on your

countdown? Just not quite enough room. Remy is

a good character. Yeah, as he said, it was a

good everyman character working around the box

that society puts you in. I feel like Remy probably

loses some points because he is a rat. But what

are you going to do? But as far as an individual

character goes in a Pixar movie, he is a really

good character as an individual, which you can't

say about a whole lot of Pixar characters. A

lot of them kind of rely on a duo or being in

a group. But Remy, Remy stole the show. So there's

that. I got to say one thing about that movie.

Too many rats in the kitchen for my liking. Oh,

man. I saw a video yesterday of a real live rat

playing a freaking peekaboo with its owner. Oh,

that's adorable. Yeah, I was like, that's kind

of nasty, but that is the cutest ride I've ever

seen. And it was like big. It wasn't like a little

cute little rat and close to a mouse. No, this

was a big ass frigging rat. Like the thing was

almost the size of a Yorkie. It was huge. Wow

scary, right? Yeah, but it was so friendly and

cute and was getting excited when it's like Owner

would like cover her face with her hands and

it would run up to her face and like grab her

hands off It was it was adorable and that rat

should be in the kitchen I don't know about that,

but all right, five spots left for the countdown

today. I guess buckle up here because it seems

like we're going a little bit all over the place

for the remaining five spots. Some interesting

selections that surprised me for sure. Starting

with number 80, maybe not as surprising as one

to come, but we're going to go back to the 80s

action shows, I guess, for another selection

here and another bad character. We just talked

about it with Cobra Commander and how he ranked.

Well, apparently not ranking quite as high as

the one Matt brought up, number 80 would be Skeletor

from Filmation. Skeletor was in the finale of

our 80s cartoon villain showdown, facing off

against Megatron. So we see Skeletor here, two

or three spots above. Cobra Commander. I guess

when I went to rank them, I did not rank Cobra

Commander. I ranked Skeletor at number 90, just

because I thought if I'm going to pick an 80s

cartoon villain or kind of that type of mold,

he was kind of the one to pick for me. The others

seemed like they're just kind of copying that

or maybe don't quite have as much to give as

Skeletor does, especially if you kind of go through

some of the different versions of He -Man. So

that's why I ranked Skeletor instead of Cobra

Commander. I didn't have a lot of room for a

lot of 80s. action characters. It's just shocking

to me because I feel like that's your niche.

I like those shows, but if I'm looking at the

characters, some of those characters are pretty

paper thin, so I wouldn't have put them on here.

But Skeletor was just enough to get to the 90

spot for me. Amanda, you also ranked Skeletor.

Actually, a lot of love from the females here

because you had it ranked 83 and Tara Blair had

it ranked as number 10. So some love there. What

do you think about Skeletor and why did he make

it on your list? list. I think that he's definitely

one of the most iconic characters coming out

of that genre. And I think that he was super

creepy and weird, but also he was laughable.

Like you could laugh at his, some of his attempts

and just how he was of his voice. And I think

that he makes really awesome memes. So he's had

more memes than some of the other action characters

for sure. Alan Oppenheimer does a great job with

his voice. original cartoon. Matt, you as well

ranked Skeletor instead of Cobra Commander. What

made you do that? I love Skeletor. One, I love

his design. He's just fucking muscles with the

skeleton head for no reason. And then I love

his voice. I had anticipated that, that is. So

if that's the way you want it, then that's the

way you get it. Nice try, Boneface! But have

some of mine! You blasted blue bungler! Take

that! Getting rusty, Hornet? Try this! And the

reimagining in the early 2000s? He's my favorite

80s villain probably Absolutely, I could see

a lot of people agreeing with you on that one

Dan. Are we too much 80s action love here? I

Mean, we're not talking top 50 top 70 80. I think

it's fine for Skeletor, you know, so Like I said,

the He -Man was one thing that I missed in my

childhood, so I didn't really rank him, and I

think I ended up ranking Coper instead. I can't

really argue one character is better than the

next. They're both about the same. Legitimately,

you could probably list their characteristics

on a piece of paper, and they match up pretty

perfectly. It's just a preference, really. Yeah,

I can see that for sure sketch you did not rank

Skeletor either so I almost did though He was

on my list at one point and I bumped him off

for another iconic villain. I I Think Skeletor

is a great 80s cartoon villain I feel like all

of these characters are really enhanced by parodies

that came after them and like robot chicken,

the robot chicken bits with Skeletor and Cobra

Commander and Shredder and all of them. So great.

Oh, and Megatron, obviously. And even they get

Frank Welker most of the time to do Megatron.

And that's freaking fantastic. I would say, yes,

you should rank Skeletor above Cobra Commander.

I might rank somebody else. higher than that

because of when I grew up, and also because this

other character has so many other interpretations,

usually ranging in the more badass. But I think

Skeletor is a really great prototypical bad guy,

and he's ridiculous and he's entertaining. And

what more can you want out of a villain, really?

And the reason why he is a skull with muscles

is because somebody burnt his freaking face off.

And he just doesn't give a fuck. No. And that's

another great thing about him. Nice. All right.

So everybody will have to weigh in on what you

guys think. Cobra Commander falls and then Skeletor

fuses. a few spots later, a few spots higher.

79. Let's go somewhere completely different for

number 79. We have not had a character based

on a theatrical short for a while. We also haven't

had a character that could go back a ways in

origin. We're going back to 1943 for only the

second Disney character so far in the countdown,

or characters I guess you could say, because

this is our first pairing that we've had, and

it is none other than Chip. and Dale at number

79. Dan, not too far off here. You had them ranked

at 60. They fall here at 79. What do you think

of the first duo of the countdown, Chip and Dale?

Yeah, I mean, honestly, I watched a little bit

of the Chip and Dale Disney stuff. I had a lot

of VHS shorts and stuff. But this really came

down to the Rescue Rangers. As a kid of the 90s,

that was a huge show for me. when you go to other

pairings, I think maybe are a little bit stronger

or lasted a bit longer, but they're fun. I think

they're better with. stronger supporting characters.

I don't think they can hold up on their own as

much because this is why I didn't rank them as

high, but I am a fan of Rescue Rangers and you

do love the fact that if you go back to your

cartoon, you do realize one is dressed up as

Indiana Jones and the other one is Magnum PI.

So yeah, you got that going for them. So I think,

I think people, yeah, a lot of people probably

only know them through Rescue Rangers or some

other more modern. They've been in 26 different

shows, movies, games, et cetera. I think the

short shorts are kind of underappreciated because

I think they were excellent in the original shorts

as well. actually, so I apparently had them much

higher than anybody else. I just think they're

a great duo and I think they complement each

other very well, very similar to a couple other

pairings that maybe we'll see, maybe we won't,

but I have a lot of love for Chip and Dale, not

just in the Rescue Rangers, but in the shorts

as well. Amanda, Matt, or Sketch, any comments

on Chip and Dale? I think Chip and Dale is kind

of in the part of my life where I just was kind

of is starting to be able to remember things.

So memories of Chip and Dale are kind of vague

for me, but I really remember enjoying them and

I definitely saw them in Rescue Rangers and I

think that they were super fun and super cute

and I wish that I remembered them more. Fair

enough. Matt? She echoed my opinion perfectly.

I mean we are the exact same age. All right,

so Sketch, any last thoughts on Chip and Dale?

Yeah, you have the two different levels with

Chip and Dale. You have their rescue rangers,

where Chip is trying to be a leader and Dale

is a bit of a goofball and he's always kind of

trying to prove himself. And then in the old

shorts, they were just a foil to characters like

Donald Duck. And those are really funny. They

really rattled those other characters' cages,

so. There is that great level to it and I would

say if you wanted to put them up against a similar

duo of characters Macintosh the goofy golfers

Probably Chip and Dale come out on top in that

regard, too So I'm good with Chip and Dale where

they are. Maybe a little higher. I think I forgot

to rank them Somebody would Yeah enough enough

to get them up here on to the number 79 slot

Going to number 78. Well, let's stick with Disney,

but let's go with a Disney character based on

a film We've only had a few characters based

on films in this segment of the countdown and

we've only had a few characters coming from the

1990s about the first Disney princess Mulan coming

in at number 78 Amanda You had Mulan ranked the

highest, I believe, at number 17. Are you a little

sad that she falls here at 78? A little sad,

but I get it. I don't think she was one of the

most popular Disney princesses. I think she might

be a tad underrated at times. This was a time

in my life where movies really meant a lot to

me like started to mean something And I got a

lot out of it. I really connected with her I

was like a weird awkward tomboy when I was little

and you know trying to kind of come into your

own and Brush off whatever else thinks of you

and you know, especially if you're not kind of

like in this cookie -cutter Situation it's it's

difficult and I remember seeing the previews

for Mulan and being like super moved and because

it's like this storm and she's like out in the

rain crying and she really deals with like life

and death situation and the gravity of what she

goes through is is really marvelous and i think

that she she goes about it with such grace really

i mean she is kind of awkward and you know firmly

at times but i think how she she comes into her

own is it's really a great story and i think

she's empowering and i I don't know if this is

the right numbering, but like I said, in this

kind of section, it's hard for me to say, yeah,

this is a good spot for that or not. But I'm

glad she even made the list, honestly. Dan, we

talked about in the beginning that sometimes

if there were certain types of characters, we

might have only went with the top one or the

top two. Is that a situation for Mulan? And if

Mulan is here at number 78. How many other Disney

princesses do you expect to show up in the rest

of the countdown? It's hard to say because like,

I guess I don't even consider Mulan a Disney

princess in a way. Which is maybe, which is more

positive for her than strength. I feel like with

a lot of Disney princess characters, they tend

to be... Very weak as characters often like they're

you know, they were of time and place. They're

often damsel in distress They are kind of allowing

things happen around them where they're not really

the ones moving forward with the plot Like, you

know Snow White or Cinderella maybe less Cinderella

So yeah, probably others are more popular and

are more known for their movies where I feel

like if you're looking strictly on character

you could probably argue Mulan is as good as

if not better than all the Disney princesses

but probably is not getting getting ranked higher

simply because Maybe here Ruby isn't as well

known as well respected So I think that's where

you're seeing her fall here or maybe We won't

have any more Disney princesses and she's the

only one they got ranked I'm gonna probably guess

it's the former rather than the latter. So I

Like I think that's kind of a case where Maybe

we'll see a few more. I guess like I said, it's

in the roast no whites Sleeping Beauty, maybe.

But I guess, like I said, I think that's more

of a circumstantial than rather a character being

ranked where they should based upon the quality

of who they are as a character. Look at music,

though, in her movie. Tops. Oh, yeah. Sketch,

you agree with what Dan's saying? Or what are

your thoughts? I think as far as characters go,

Mulan is the best Disney princess. As far as

popularity, iconicness goes, she definitely falls

down the list. Like, I don't even think of her

as a Disney princess, really, because she's much

more than that. She's a great empowering character.

She's a freaking war hero. Yeah, exactly. Was

just kind of going in the in the way that they

merchandise, you know, they could think group

her in with yeah Yeah, they do and they do that

with Merida to for it. It really is like legit

princess. She's just like yeah, she's I mean

she's Merida warrior princess Yeah, I do expect

to see one or two other princesses to pop up

maybe just because of popularity. I mean, if

people were thinking of what's popular, then

I'm pretty sure one or two will pop up ahead

of Mulan, but if they don't... Okay, I'm good

with it. I think it's one of the most interesting

kind of little sub stories, plots, or whatever

you want to call it. Lines going through this

countdown just to see how the Disney princesses

shake down and if people did go with the ones

that were actually good characters or if popularity

played a part. So that's definitely something

to watch for as we kind of go through. If those

frozen bitches beat out in the long, I'm gonna

be pissed. Me too. Matt, I know you haven't seen

all of the Disney films, but you know of all

of them. So what do you think of Mulan in comparison

to some of the other names that you've been hearing

thrown about? Everything that I've heard is that

she's more interesting as a character. She's

more of a protagonist and less of a victim. Like

everyone says, she sounds like she's the best

choice. I have not seen her movie. But I feel

like that's a bigger regret than, say, not having

seen Snow White. Yeah, all right, so it's just

falling down the woods. Yeah, what it's you don't

want Snow White for Snow White We've asked a

lot of questions already so far through this

portion of the countdown and We actually are

gonna get one of the answers already as well

that we asked earlier 77 coming in at number

77 our second character from Amblin Entertainment

From the same film, 77 is Jessica Rabbit. So

Jessica Rabbit beats out Roger Rabbit. They both

appear in this segment of the countdown. Dan,

did we get that right or wrong? I think we probably

got that wrong because it's like name of characteristic

regarding Jessica Rabbit, like that defines your

character that doesn't reflect the way she looks.

And I don't know if you can. And that's kind

of the point of the character. So. I guess maybe

could argue she certainly has her place you know

based like as an icon or of some sort but as

a character I would I would flip flop this with

Roger Rabbit. It's interesting, too, if you look

at it, because actually more people voted for

Roger Rabbit. He appeared on seven people voted

for Roger, and only six people voted for Jessica

Rabbit. But if I read the rankings again, Roger

Rabbit, 82, 77, 63, 85, 66, 58, and then 39.

Jessica Rabbit, 97, 94, but then it goes to 43,

43, 30, and 25. So the people that did rank Jessica

Rabbit ranked her a little bit higher. Amanda?

What do you think agree with Dan that we got

that wrong or do you think this is how I should

have played out? Did I rank her you did rank

Jessica rabbit at number 94? Yeah, I would I

was struggling a little bit with the matchup

that we saw on Facebook I really it was hard

for me to to pull out one or the other but I

think that Roger rabbit was definitely more solid

character I think there was more to him and I

think that we If this being a male -dominated

list, maybe, you know, animated boobies wins

out. I don't know. Sketch, we talked about that

a lot of times at a certain TV show or a certain

film might eliminate certain characters because

you're only going to go with the top character

from that film or from that show. Who Framed

Roger Rabbit gets two characters in. Surprised

by that? I'm not too surprised because clearly

some people were thinking with their other head.

But I think it's a real throwaway, honestly.

There's much better characters than Jessica Rabbit.

She's just kind of there because of iconicness

and feelings that people associate with her.

But she's just paper thin. There's nothing to

her. Because she's 2D. But she's not bad. She's

just drawn that way. So that's three people that

are in agreement there that Jessica Rabbit maybe

doesn't deserve to be this high or on this side

of Roger Rabbit. Matt, are you going to make

it four for four or are you going to disagree?

No, I think Roger Rabbit deserves to be above

her. And again, not surprised. I think I mentioned

that earlier. All right, so that is the answer

to that question. We only have one more spot

left in today's section of the countdown 76 I'm

coming in at number 76 and This is one of the

two most surprising ones for me. This goes right

up there with slappy squirrel I'm very surprised

that this character is on the countdown and Maybe

a sign that some people might get scared here

for the rest of our countdown But we're going

back to the world of Hasbro actually and back

to a show that has already had a character Beating

out Cobra Commander coming in at number 76, Snake

Eyes. So not one of the main villain, not the

main villain, not the main hero. Snake Eyes from

G .I. Joe coming in at number 76. The Simplistic

Reviews guys had this at number 21. The Talking

in Circles guys had this at number 21. Steve

Megatron Phillips had it at 23. So that's three

people that had it in their top 25, just to mention

a few of the people that ranked Snake Eyes. Sketch,

let's start with you. Snake Eyes beats Cobra

Commander. Shocked? I don't think that's right.

Snake Eyes is a cool, really cool character.

He's like a quintessential ninja in GI Joe. He's

a cool character. He's usually pretty likable

in every interpretation. He's strong but silent

type. He's not that interesting in my opinion.

but I mean different interpretations he can be

interesting like he's he can have an interesting

backstory the whole thing with him is uh storm

shadow it makes for a good story but as an individual

character he's he's a ninja There's not much

else to him. Also one of the, unless you're counting

Tinkerbell, obviously in some of the incarnation,

Tinkerbell does not speak, but also one of the

first non -speaking characters to appear on the

countdown. I don't know if that gets him bonus

points from people when they're ranking him or

not. Amanda, do you know enough about G .I. Joe

to know Snake Eyes? I think Snake Eyes was dope

in the live -action movies, but I don't remember

him in the cartoon. Fair enough. Matt or Dan,

any thoughts on Snake Eyes showing up on the

countdown at all? Deserving or shit, what are

we thinking here? I think he's my favorite G

.I. Joe. That's all I can say. Yeah, probably.

Yeah, as growing up as a kid, he was always my

favorite G .I. Joe. Mostly because he was a ninja.

So it's like, you know, it was just the cool

dude with a noise and he had a dog, right? Like

you're I don't remember. It's been a while since

I watched the I don't Yeah, it's like like sketch

was saying if you were just looking him as the

characters there's really much there I mean not

really he he more so luck in the fact that he

Could kick butt really so if anything maybe switch

him and Donatello or something like that. So

yeah Interesting to it kind of begs the question.

We've seen Cobra commander and snake eyes. That's

two characters from GI Joe Snake eyes are genuinely

with storm shadow. We also had Destro we had

Duke. Are we gonna see a whole bunch of GI Joe's

coming down the Piper? Just Cobra commander and

snake eyes and if those are the only two that's

that's an interesting selection. We'll have to

wait and see on Looking back here on the first

group of 25, just a couple questions for you

guys. Dan, looking at the companies represented,

we've been all over the place. Obviously, we

had a handful of Hanna -Barbera, we had three

Disney, two Amblin, two Hasbro, we had Leica,

we had WB with one, Filmation with a couple,

Pixar with a couple, one Muppet, and a handful

of anime characters. What do you think of the

diversity of this? More specifically, if we're

looking at some of the action from the right

time period for the people involved in this list,

with characters from He -Man, characters from

G .I. Joe, turtles, et cetera, represented, and

only three Disney characters, is that more of

a sign that the Disney characters are being saved

for later, or are you anticipating an 80s action

bias running through this whole countdown? I

feel like it's a sign for Disney characters to

come later because when you have so many choices,

like if you get those that I think you could,

the obvious choices are probably gonna be, you

know, coming later where, you know, where you

get a lot of diversity here. Cause like once

you, when you're creating a list, it gets really

challenging the latter half. So you get more

variety. You're kind of just trying to think

of ones where I'm sure when we get to the top

25, top 50, you're going to see a lot more of

the more known studios. Maybe we'll get less

anime where we'll get most of the Pixar and Disney

and Looney Tunes coming up. I'm actually kind

of surprised we haven't seen more Looney Tunes

characters yet, considering just how many of

those are, but I'm happy. I guess that could

go into the same type of thing. If you treat

that as a franchise and you only vote for one

or two of them, will we see, how many will we

see? So that's an interesting line to kind of

follow through as well. Going into the breakdown

as far as Matt, you said you didn't rank any

anime characters. How surprised are you that

we've already seen, what was it, four or five

anime characters in this section of the countdown?

I think I'm about as surprised as how few Disney

characters we've seen. I feel like the anime

characters are going to be definitely in the

last half. Or, you know, the first half, however

you look at it. The lower ranked and the Disney

areas are gonna be higher ranked. I mean, there

is more diversity than I expected. I never even

considered Akira. And I'm sure there's gonna

be a couple of more surprises just like that.

We haven't seen Goku yet, who I'm sure made the

list. Goku? Like, everyone loves Goku. I saw

the best t -shirt online today of Goku. And it

was like the scene from Friday when they were

like, damn. But it was, yeah, I think it was

Goku and Gohan. You are a reference for all YouTube

memes and pictures out there. You're a great

source for that. I'm on it. All right, Amanda,

a question for you here. We talked about in the

beginning that maybe the female male split would

be 80 -20 or 70 -30 or something like that. You

guys were talking about 70 percentages or something

like that. So far, we've seen one, two, three,

four, five, six, seven, eight female characters

in this grouping of 24. Surprised or not? I wanna

say no, I think there should be enough iconic

characters with everything in Disney and everything

that we've just seen in like 80s stuff and whatnot.

I think that we should have enough to be able

to put a good smattering of female characters

in there. And we do have a couple females on

this panel here submitting lists. So I think

that there can be love from all sides. And I

think that... Did we underestimate the amount

of Disney females when we were putting that percentage

out, the 70 or 80 % in males? Perhaps. I mean,

there's like a ton of Disney princesses. Fair

enough. All right, a question for you, Sketch.

We also talked about the good versus evil and

how a majority of the characters would probably

be good, but we did see a smattering of bad characters

here, I guess. You got Skeletor, Cobra Commander,

Brock, Dick Dastardly. We'll call him Brock,

like Brock Lesnar is Brock. I didn't watch the

show, my bad. But Sketch, is only four bad characters

showing up, is that surprising or do you think

that's gonna be kind of the similar thing for

each section of 25, only three or four bad characters?

I think the ratio is probably gonna maintain

itself that way. I think the closer you get to

the top, it will taper off a lot more. Like I

don't think there's gonna be any in the top 10,

maybe not even in the top 20. but I think for

the next batches, you're still gonna see three

to four pop up. All right, we'll have to wait

and see for that. I wanna give you guys each

one more chance. Just give your final reaction

so far on this section of the countdown, what

you liked, what you didn't like, surprises, disappointments.

Is there one character that you definitely feel

is undeserving or what do you think? Let's start

with you, Amanda. What are your general thoughts

on numbers 100 through 76? Definitely a few curve

balls in there. I would have thought that Skeletor

would have been higher up based on the people

that are ranking here. Same thing with She -Ra.

I think that having a lot of Hanna -Barbara characters

definitely made sense though, especially in this

grouping. So a couple curve balls, but definitely

some stuff that I would expect. Sketch, how about

you? What are your overall thoughts on numbers

100 through 76? There been some interesting picks

here that I really didn't consider Yeah, I figured

there would be a lot more variety on this end

of the list and that's why I was kind of excited

to be talking about this part of the list because

I figured it would be less of the obvious choices

and more of the oh, hey, how about that and Yeah,

I think I think it's been pretty good so far.

I already mentioned that I don't think Tetsuo

or Jessica rabbit should be on this list I don't

think Snake Eyes should be on this list. At least

not Snake Eyes and Cobra Commander. And if there's

another G .I. Joe, I mean, for goodness sake,

people. Because I'm sure there's going to be

more 80s characters. We don't have Megatron or

Optimus Prime on here yet. You know there will

be. And Goku, Goku's a given, even though adult

Goku is an annoying, boring character. It's all

about Kid Goku. Kid Goku was the best. Yeah,

I like the variety we've seen so far. We've seen

a ton of different companies, studios. We've

seen a lot of different decades represented so

far, source material. I am a little bit surprised.

I guess the two that stand out the biggest for

me would be Snake Eyes and Slappy Squirrel. I

wasn't expecting those two. Slappy is real unexpected.

Yeah, and a few characters that I don't know

enough about, so I still need to be exposed to

a couple of them. But overall, I am pretty happy

with this segment and kind of the footwear we're

getting started off on. Matt, what about your

overall thoughts so far? 100 through 76, we get

some, you know, what kind of grade do we get

on this? Well, I mean, Slappy Screw Oil showing

up, and like, I'm like, is Chicken Boo gonna

show up? Like chicken poo was more entertaining

than slappy squirrel or even the good feathers

like of all of your animaniacs characters you

chose that one Like I mean the animaniacs themselves

are gonna have to show up Absolutely like cuz

I mean if just the two or three people that put

her on their list They're gonna put them on their

list, right? I have no idea. Maybe she's just

their favorite animidiac. You don't know. Oh,

man. I don't know. And that's this list. I don't

know. I feel like eight of my top 10 are not

going to be on this list. And yet puppets are.

And somehow that bothers me probably more than

it should. Because puppets, they're puppets.

Don't get me wrong. I love puppets like I watched

know you shut up. I watched I Love puppet stuff.

They're not animated So, I don't know man. This

this thing is gonna go off the rails I feel like

other than Disney princesses and a couple of

other guys here there I'm gonna have no idea

what's coming up on the next 75 of these Dan

I see the same question. What kind of grade do

you give us so far? Well, I think there are probably

I think arguably two to three characters that

maybe shouldn't be on here, like Jessica Rabbit

and Snake Eyes, and maybe you could argue that

Cobra Commander as well. So a B, I guess. I mean,

I'm happy to see characters like Nausicaa and

Coraline. I do wish they were higher, but I'm

happy that they're on the list. I'm happy that

we did see as many female characters as we did.

I hope that continues as we go forward. And like,

this is probably like SketchFunction, maybe the...

the most fun because this is where it's like

you legitimately have no idea because if you

asked me to name like 300 characters I don't

think I would in that come up with Slappy Squirrel

just because of this the amount of characters

that come up right so that was kind of a fun

fun to see so that's interesting and and I'm

also Seeing a character like Cobra Commander

go this low, though, like makes me wonder, maybe

we won't get as many of those 80s action characters

as we think we will. I mean, obviously, two big

ones like Optimus Prime and Megatron are probably

gonna be high up there, but I don't think we'll

get another G .I. Joe character, maybe Sgt. Slaughter.

You never know. He could sneak up there sometimes.

But yeah, I think it's good, but... It's hard

when it comes to this end of a countdown. I think

moving forward we'll see. I'm interested. Solid

B. That's a passing grade. So for those of you

wondering about the names and characters that

didn't quite make the countdown, we save that

until the wrap -up show once we're done with

everything just to keep the suspense going. So

we will do honorable mentions and those that

just missed at the end of the entire countdown.

But that's it for this segment of the Top 100.

Thank you very much for listening. Make sure

you go to the website geekcastradio .com and

commenting on what your thoughts are so far.

We definitely will talk about feedback at some

point along this adventure. Sketch, before we

go, how can people get into contact with you

on Twitter or how can people listen to more of

your thoughts on different things? Okay, my Twitter

is at sketch 1984. I also have a Tumblr sketch

1984 dot tumblr .com. My podcast is tsunami faithful

podcast, which is on podcast dot tsunami faithful

.com and also soundcloud .com backslash tsunami

faithful podcast or looking up on iTunes. And

my final thought is, is shredder and or crank

is not on this list. You have all failed me.

And if anybody out there likes listening to Amanda,

Matt, Dan, or I for some reason, obviously check

out Cinema Geeks where we give you guys a weekly

movie discussion on a variety of different things,

including what we talked about today, the Miyazaki

Spotlight. Also be sure to check out some of

the other contributors, In Session Films, Simplistic

Reviews, Talking in Circles, as well as the other

GeekCast Radio Network content. If you want to

get in touch with each one of us individually,

you can also do that via Twitter. Dan, what is

your Twitter handle? I'm at Movie Revolved. Matt?

I'm at Fridley Sent. Amanda? At Hard Candy Mandy,

eyes no wise. And I am at Optimist Solo. Tune

in next time for the next segment of the Top

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