Theory of a Deadman Artist Spotlight

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Episode Artist Spotlight Theory of a Dead Man

Hello and welcome to Geekcast Radio. This is

wrapping up the Artist Spotlight for the 2000s.

as we are continuing the epic music spotlight

we've been doing here at GCR. I am one of your

hosts, T .F. John -Mike, and joining me for the

first time here on GeekCast Radio is Jesse from

T .F. Wire. Hello. How are you doing? Pretty

good, pretty good. Actually, wasn't I on another

one of your shows? Was this my second time on

here? Yeah, you were on All Things Transformers

for an episode with me and Steve. Yeah, I thought

I was. Yeah. Well, no, but this is like the first

time you're on this show. Oh, gotcha. So because

we have like god twenty something shows that

we do how do you keep them all straight with

a very very jagged line but no this is uh...

this is gonna wrap up the music spotlight and

it's uh... not wrap up the overall spotlight

but this is gonna wrap up our artist spotlight

coverage and uh... what better way to uh... to

do it with uh... with a band that uh... that

i love and i You know, I know that you have mentioned

that you love them as well in Theory of a Dead

Man. Yes, absolutely love these guys. So for

those of you who don't know Jesse, why don't

you tell the people a little bit about yourself?

You don't have to go into like too much detail,

but you know, you're a Transformers geek, obviously,

since you run a website called TF Wire. Hi people,

my name is Jesse. No in all seriousness, no,

yeah, my name is Jesse for those of you that

don't know me I used to do a Transformers podcast

called TF wire over on TF wire comm I got sick

and tired of doing that after doing it for nearly

six years And then I started to focus on school

again. So that's pretty much taken up all of

my time But I'll be graduating actually next

Saturday. So Might have more time now to get

back into this whole podcasting thing after purchasing

a really nice professional microphone setup Awesome,

so maybe we'll see we'll see cool cool all right,

so We are gonna have different Topics for this

one sadly everyone lumps theory everyone thinks

of theory as the other side of the Nickelback

and I completely disagree with that there there

are certain similarities I mean let's face it

Tyler Conley has specifically stated he snuck

a demo tape to Chad kroger so i mean you know

and they and kroger and and his his label at

the time six oh four records in canada did produce

these guys but they have since uh... jumped over

to the u .s. label run roadrunner which six oh

four was a uh... subsidiary of uh... how did

you first uh... start listening to theory what

what was your first exposure to them well in

preparation for this i Because I am a member

on Spotify. I went back and I listened to not

every song in all their albums but a good majority

of them for each of the albums and The one song

that I remember hearing a long time ago Was nothing

could come between us. Mm -hmm, and that was

on their 2002 album, which was there But I didn't

I didn't know the name of the band of that time

so if we fast forward like seven years or so

so back in 2009 I had Sirius radio in my car

and at that time on there I think this was their

2008 album is when this this came out um Yep

The song that the serious hits one channel was

playing over and over and over repeatedly I was

not meant to be and I absolutely fell in love

with that song because that essentially described

my relationship with my girlfriend at that time

Which is absolutely terrible to say, I know,

but... Well, it is a song about a failed relationship.

It is, and that relationship ended up failing,

hence the ex -girlfriend. But that's how I sort

of got into listening to their music. But then,

like I said, as I was listening to their albums

on Spotify again, Nothing Could Come Between

Us really stood out, and I remember that song.

But at the time, I didn't know the band's name

at all. Right, yeah. For me it I've said this

before on the on the music spotlight is this

this spotlight has been going on since like November

of last year It's epic. I mean it started at

geek cast radio episode 30 and it'll go till

episode 35 but in between that we've had like

10 to 20 different episodes covering different

music topics and everything else and different

bands and stuff like that, but for me How I sometimes

find new music or new artists that I like is

through soundtracks and I had gone to see Spider

-Man in 2002 and I found out that they were on

the Spider -Man soundtrack at the time it was

the first excuse me the first place you could

ever hear them with their single Invisible Man

Because the self -titled album did not come out

until a few months later in 2002 So that's how

I found them and invisible man. I was just I

was just hooked and by the time I got the album

I was like I was just oh My god, I can't stop

listening to this every single no seriously every

single there's very it's very rare for me like

like take Take Nickelback for example It's very

rare for me to like every single song on one

of those albums, or even other bands that I listen

to. Default, Hall & Oates, whatever, Live. It's

very rare that I listen to every single song

on an album, but with Theory, for some strange

reason, At least with the self -titled album

and it's gonna happen with the other albums as

well some of the other albums as well Every single

song off of this is just amazing to me. It just

is Well, I guess that would be the first time

that I've ever heard them then because I did

go see the spider -man movie I didn't realize

that the invisible man was on there. Yep. It's

on the soundtrack I don't I don't know if they

got it in the movie, but it's on the soundtrack

got you But yeah, I mean, you know stuff like

nothing could come between us make up your mind

The last song say I'm sorry any other way any

other way kind of reminds me of And I know this

is probably gonna be a bad analogy, but it room

any other way reminds me of Journeys any way

you want it. I Don't know why it does that but

it just it just kind of does The funny thing

is I didn't find this out until I actually interviewed

Dave Renner a couple months ago because of their

latest album, The Truth Is, coming out, Kid Come

Out. I had, you know, I love finding out how

bands come up with their names and I still, to

the... up up to that point i had no idea how

they came up with the name theory of a dead man

and originally it was the title of one of the

songs off of the self -titled album the song

called uh... the last song that was originally

the song title was theory of a dead man because

that song is about a guy going back in just rethinking

life choices and whatever else, and they basically

said, well let's just take that as the band name

and then just rename the song The Last Song.

So I thought that was interesting. I actually

saw them in 2003, but I'll talk about that later.

In 2005, they released the second album, Gasoline.

How much of this have you heard? I just listened

to a couple of songs on this one. Not really

a Big fan of this album. I like their their debut

album and from scars and souvenirs on But I didn't

really like or particular like anything Or nothing

really stood out to me at least on this album

a Number of them stood out to me. I kind of get

like when I was listening through this album

At first I skipped over No Way Out and Quiver.

I've since gone back and Quiver especially. I've

listened to that. But when I did my first initial

listen through this album, I got the track of

living Hell Just Ain't the Same. It threw me

off so much because I've never heard of a band

doing a less than three minute song. Hell Just

Ain't the Same is a minute five. You've got that

pulled up on Spotify. It's like. oh my god seriously

how i was so confused i was like wait a second

what is going on here because it was so like

you know every other track up to that point was

a regular song and then that happened and i was

like oh my god but stuff off this uh... no surprise

uh... me and my girl uh... hello lonely uh...

they're all really great tracks uh... it it is

a solid follow -up to the self -titled album

But you know where they've really hit their stride

is scars and souvenirs in 2008 which it which

is so funny because I Don't know if the record

company made them do this or if they said hey,

let's just do this to screw with people Scars

and souvenirs was released on April Fool's Day

2008 Yeah uh... paper first two thousand eight

uh... and you know this this one to me is you

know take any other bands major album you know

i've could you know used examples like appetite

for destruction or hysteria or you know any other

doesn't matter what band it is to be a classic

rock band could be any any artist take their

major album And that's what Scars and Souvenirs

is, for theory, is their breakout, their most

famous at this point album. And this one just

flows so well. Yeah, I was looking at the Wikipedia

entry for this album. And it says that they had

five singles that came off from this particular

album. Yeah. Yeah, there's probably more than

that. I think there was like eight. I don't know,

there was just tons of singles that came off

of Scars. I was just surprised that with this

being a 2008 album, and you said it was released

on April 1st, that when I was listening to this

song, or when I was listening to Not Meant To

Be, on Sirius, and then they were playing it

on their Sirius Hits 1 channel, which is like...

Top 40 type stuff, and they're playing this particular

song like twice every hour. That was in summer

of 2009, so we're talking June, July, and that

album had been out for more than a year at that

point. Yeah, I mean, Scars and Souvenirs got

them tons of radio play. It also has a different

sound than some of the earlier stuff. At least

in my opinion like the very first album seems

to be very heavy. Yeah And their second album

their sophomore album here. I don't think I liked

it I don't really I don't know that I even like

I Can't even think of any sophomore albums that

I particularly like Because it seems like they're

just trying to live up to the first album and

they never seem to get there But the later albums

it's like okay. We already have our fans. We

know we're doing We can change up our sound a

little bit and that's what they seem to do with

scars and souvenirs because it doesn't seem to

be as heavy The themes that flow through the

song seem to be the same But but it's not as

heavy of a tone and I think that got them more

airplay on different radio stations around the

country Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm actually surprised

that Track 7, Heaven, Little by Little didn't

get any real radio airplay, but, you know, they've,

with this album, they started two crazes. They

started the bad girlfriend craze, and they started

the hate my life craze because, you know, you

look at the, you look at Theory of a Dead Man

and the first two albums are They do tackle a

lot of serious issues, but when they got the

scars, they're like, hey, let's have a little

fun, let's put the tongue inside the cheek, and

let's just do something that we want to do and

we want to have fun with. And that's really what

this album is. Now, I didn't know until much

later, actually. that there was a two disc special

edition that was put out for this for an actual

CD -DVD combo. I did know about the iTunes, Zune,

and Amazon bonus tracks, but the special edition

bonus tracks include the extra ones. It's a bunch

of acoustic versions. It's also got several covers.

It's got Got Me Wrong, Midnight Rider, and What's

Your Name, which is respectively Alice in Chains,

Almond Brothers, and Leonard Skinner covers.

They originally released some of that stuff as

a beat. It's called the B -Sides EP. You can

find it in iTunes. It essentially has What's

My Name, Got Me Wrong, or no, What's Your Name,

Got Me Wrong, and song called inside and then

a demo version of Santa Monica but uh... you

know people are like no don't cover you know

you can't cover Alice in Chains and I'm like

are you like this is why I never read reviews

and stuff but I'll write a decent review but

just reading reviews on iTunes it's like no you

guys should never no it's like sacrilege to cover

a band and it's like really? because their version

of got me you know theory's version of got me

wrong i think number one homages alice and chains

very well and they also make it their own sound

without you know desecrating the song right uh

but no scars and souvenirs is great uh songs

i i i know this is bad to say but i like all

i i that there isn't a song off of here that

i can't listen to so it's good so so people think

in general that That covering songs is bad some

people do I guess I? Don't know there are bad

covers out there, but I consider all along the

watchtower by Jimi Hendrix one of the best covers

ever so It definitely blows away the the Bob

Dylan version yeah I Think the one song at the

time when this first came out that I gravitated

towards so much was end of the summer And I know

it's a cheat for me to say that I like all the

songs off of scars and souvenirs, but it's true

I mean it was it There there isn't a song off

here that I can't listen to and there isn't a

song off here that I would change the order of

like they had The order that they have the songs

in is the best song order you could have for

this album Yeah, um, this is the one album of

theirs that I actually own On on CD and I listened

to this actually over and over for quite a while

So yeah, I completely agree with you on the on

the song over there. Yeah And then last year

on July 12th, they released the truth is now

When this came out everybody was like, oh This

is the he man woman hater band and everything

else and I'm like, oh god, you gotta be friggin

kidding me between scars and souvenirs in 2008

And 2011's The Truth Is, Tyler Connelly got divorced.

At the time, when Scars was out, his wife, Christine

Danielle, was the inspiration for Bad Girlfriend.

She was in the Hate My Life video. She's written

a number of songs between Scars and Souvenirs

and The Truth Is, or she's contributed to them.

uh... at least according to the wikipedia articles

and and the writing credits uh... but everybody

heard you know lowlife and bitch came back and

love is hell and they're like oh he writes misogynistic

lyrics about what it might be a little bit like

that but jesus christ i mean give the guy a break

he just got divorced of course you know something

that dramatic is gonna make you create an album

like the truth is Although looking just at the

surface, if you look at the names of all the

tracks here on their albums, it's pretty clear

and obvious that they do talk a lot about women.

Which I can understand. Rock is sex, drugs, and

rock and roll, right? Exactly. They're obviously

not the first group to discuss women in their

lyrics. Yeah, I mean, at this point, you would

already know what you're getting with this group,

so I don't see any problem with it. Yeah. And

I think my first experience with The Truth Is

was, well, I saw the Lowlife lyric video that

they put out, and then I heard, well, so stupid.

iTunes. I had to buy the entire Darker the Moon

soundtrack just to get Head Above Water because

it was before the album got released. Yep. I

was like, you can't just sell the songs individually.

Damn it. Now, I actually like the number of songs

on that soundtrack. Right. Yeah. But that's definitely

one of them that really sticks out. I actually

love that song. Actually, when I first heard

it, not when I first heard the song, when I first

saw the title, I thought it was a Hall & Oates

cover, because Hall & Oates has a song called

It Above Water. uh... but no this is that that

song was great and i saw the lowlife video and

uh... you know and i need obviously as you said

before you know if you listen to this ban as

long as we have you'd know what you know what

long -time fans know what they're gonna get into

i'll see people write reviews on itunes and again

i'm gonna reference this but i'll see people

right all this is the theory that i you know

i i'm sad to call myself a theory of a dead man

fan they've changed so much for a while there's

not that much difference between now and 10 years

ago when they did the self -titled album, because

you take a song, let's see, take a song like

Love is Hell, it's essentially, obviously it's

different, but it's essentially another, nothing

could come between us. And that's one thing I

like about the bands that I like is that they

change a little, but they don't go so far off

the reservation that it just is a complete disconnect.

Like I said earlier, I think they're not as heavy,

their sound isn't as heavy as what it was originally.

Like if you compare Invisible Man with Not Meant

To Be, for example. Huge difference there. But

I don't think it's as drastic of a change as

what Linkin Park has gone through. Oh, God. So

I know you're not a Linkin Park fan, but I used

to be. I used to be. I kind of went, you know,

when they started catering to being the licensed

artist that they are and they, you know, essentially,

along with Shia LaBeach vent over and let Michael

Bay rape them like Starscream makes giant metal

bugs. No. Linkin Park, The Hybrid Theory and

Meteora. Those are the two albums that I like.

Anything past that, it's hit or miss. Yeah, because

they've completely changed their sound. At least

with Theory, I mean, yes, their sound is slightly

different. Like I said, not quite as heavy, which

I think allows for them to get on the radio more.

It's, you know, you can still recognize the band

as being Theory. Yeah. Oh yeah, most definitely.

and what i loved about the truth is was the special

edition that you can that you could have bought

actually i i pre -ordered it and i got an acoustic

version of of lowlife through itunes uh... there

was another website bonus track it was an acoustic

version of the song gentleman but the the special

edition bonus tracks that came with it was uh...

careless doesn't really matter villain better

or worse and two acoustic versions one of out

of my head and the other easy to love you as

soon as i heard villain i was like yes this needs

to be in a superhero movie it was just it was

just such a great song because the whole point

of the song is you know when the heroes away

the villain the you know the villain always wins

and everything else like that and it was such

a great great thing um i absolutely loved it

uh and again the track order on the truth is

i don't think you could have a different order

here yeah from i mean i haven't listened to the

entire album but of the songs that i've heard

i want you i completely agree with you Hey, I

was making my way through the different songs

here on Spotify Some interesting information

I actually I found this out online but I also

at when I when I talked with Dave Brenner the

guitarist I I asked him I said so I read online

that Track 12 we are men or we were men was initially

meant to be on scars and souvenirs He was like,

yeah, we were you know We usually throw around

anywhere from 15 to 20 songs and that was one

of the ones that we thought about putting on

scars and it just didn't happen and You know

when we came to this album, I went back to Tyler

and said hey remember that thing We were working

on called we were men. Why don't we just throw

it on here? It's it's it's you know, it it's

sat around long enough and it's breathed long

enough that I think we can release it he said

If we were men was on scars and souvenirs i don't

think it would fit anywhere on that album as

far as the flow of of those songs but here it

fits fine uh... essentially it's their version

of a song for soldiers you know you look at three

words down they do stuff for the military and

armed forces all the time You know a lot of bands

will do that and I'm not saying that's a bad

thing That's that's a really good thing because

obviously, you know support your troops and all

that stuff But we were men is essentially Theories

supporting the troops thing and I like that.

It's here versus being on scars Yeah, I don't

know that it necessarily would have fit the scars

at all. No probably wouldn't have So you you

were talking about a number of the bonus tracks

being acoustic. Do you like the acoustic versions

of the songs? I do, but I don't find myself listening

to acoustics that much. I'm kind of the same

way. They also released a special edition of

Scars and Souvenirs and that had an acoustic

version of Not Meant To Be. I don't know, I can

kind of go back and forth between the two different

versions of that song. I can listen to each one

equally. Yeah, but but in general. Yeah, I don't

typically go for acoustic versions of the song

I mean if it's Like if I had I mentioned this

before on the spotlight when I was living in,

Massachusetts mix 98 .5 at the time used to do

something called acoustic sunrise every Sunday

and it would be like an hour of you know, top

40 bands and artists that have a acoustic versions

of their songs. I think the one that I most remember

is like an acoustic version of Colorblind by

Counting Crows. I don't know why I just remember

that one song but it was an hour of acoustic

versions of all these songs and I could probably

do it if I was just listening to the acoustics

but hearing the original like Like you said,

not meant to be hearing the original song versus

the acoustic. I would probably listen to the

original more. It's not that I don't like the

acoustic version. You just have to have a certain

mind frame and a certain set time for acoustic

listening, I think. Right. If I'm working out

at the gym, I don't want to listen to something

acoustic. No, you have to be in a really emotional

place to get the acoustic versions. So I think

we're gonna take an album break you're gonna

hear selections from the self -titled album And

then we're gonna come back with the next topic

So we are back, and the next topic we're going

to bring up, and I know a lot of people that

might listen to this are like, oh, they're talking

about the other band again. But honestly, you

can't talk about Theory of a Deadman without

talking about them stepping out of Nickelback's

shadow. It just can't be avoided. As I said earlier,

they... essentially got founded by Nickelback

as far as Tyler slipping Chad a demo tape. They

produced the first album. Tyler was a background

guitarist on Chad Kroger and Josie Scott's Hero

from the Spider -Man soundtrack. You can clearly

see him in the videos. I don't understand how

people can constantly compare Theory of a Dead

Man to Nickelback. They do sound a little bit

similar, but Nickelback is a lot harder. It's

two very different singing styles, I think. For

the most part, I would agree with that. I think

some of the more recent Nickelback stuff isn't

as hard. That sounds kind of weird, but... Anyways,

because they're on a lot of the mainstream um

stations so whether it's rock i've heard them

on pop station at least a pop station here in

my area um like they did the um they did the

super bowl so they're not quite as oh yeah i

forgot that's where you are oh wait a while yeah

what a crazy city that was anyway um no see here's

the here's the thing you know and we mentioned

this on the on the on the nickelback show with

with their new album uh... here now which came

out late last year uh... them doing the super

bowl and playing their latest single uh... we

stand together that was essentially the only

song off their album that would actually have

gotten approved because every other song off

of here now for the most part is like there's

a song called midnight queen there's a song called

gotta get me some you know so Nickelback are

essentially the the the sex and and stripper

and bar scene for 2011 they just are Theory I

think is as you said, you know nickel backs slightly

as a slightly harder edge Theory can have a hard

edge, but I like that they don't I mean they

can rock out but you there's a difference between

rocking out and just being really really hard

as far as their sound goes. Did you just say

really, really hard? Shut up. And sorry, I said

Super Bowl. I meant the Thanksgiving game. Yeah.

But yeah, I mean, you know, I used to... Was

it when yeah in 2008 when when scars came out

I made a playlist of you know because I wanted

to see if if if people were like Oh, they sound

just like Nickelback so I made a playlist in

iTunes of scars and souvenirs and Nickelback

at the time had released Dark Horse and I Shuffled

the tracks where it's every other track is each

band so there will be a theory track and Nickelback

track theory track vice versa and It's completely

different the sounds are so different. I don't

understand so I'm sure theory is you know theory

likes working with Nickelback, and they're they're

very great I'm sure the band is very grateful

for get it for Nickelback giving them their start,

but I Just hate it when people compare the two

bands. I mean yeah, they are similar They are

in the same genre, but the sound is so different

Yeah, I've got a Nickelback star course pulled

up right now and it it is a lot Sorry, I'm just

listening to the song it is it is quite a bit

different than in theory for sure Yes, it is

it is but yeah, I can see similarities Kind of

there are some but people will say oh well theory

of dead man's in exact copy. No, they're not

a fucking exact copy definitely not a copy but

yeah I can see some similarities in in some songs

but definitely not all the way through that's

for sure yeah so we're gonna head to another

album break you're gonna hear stuff off of gasoline

and you're also gonna hear some of the covers

that they've done and we'll be back after this

to talk about is concert and or personal stories

you kind of already mentioned your personal story

I did yeah with listening about not meant to

be oh yeah sorry not that cancer story though

yeah yeah no no your personal connection for

me it's more of a concert story because like

I said after after the self -titled album got

released Is actually very very awesome the local

station here in Louisville, Kentucky at the time

100 .5 the Fox they were they were like hey 12

stones theory of a dead man and three doors down

is headlining this free show at Jillian's music

hall come to the station to get your tickets

I Immediately went I found any I didn't care

if I had to hitchhike I was going to that station.

I was getting those fucking tickets You shouldn't

throw down the street, but you made it there

yes exactly it's like it's like did you just

say free concert and as long as i have to do

is go to your station and ask for the tickets

hell yeah uh but no it was a um it was an outdoor

show 2000 uh may 2nd 2003 i believe uh yeah yeah

yeah may 2nd 2003 um it was theory 12 stones

and three doors down were the headliners um The

greatest thing about this was 12 stones and theory

of a dead man were out front not out front of

them. They were Like you have the stage off to

like the left portion of the parking lot And

then like as soon as you walk back like right

there is where the two bands were set up Yeah

to sign autographs and to do a little meet -and

-greet and everything else And again, this was

like right when they were coming out. This was

before they got the the mega fame from scars

And it was just awesome. I got assigned self

-titled CD. I got assigned poster. The poster's

around here somewhere. I don't know where it

is. But it was just awesome. And this was back

at the time when Tyler was Mr. I'm not going

to have a clean look as far as the little goatee

and short haircut he has now. No, no, no, no.

Back in 2003, the Dude had slightly longer hair

and almost a mutton chop type of goatee looking

thing. They were still coming off from the post

grunge. I'm not saying that to insult the guy.

But the looks are completely different since

then. But no, I hung out with them. I hung out

with 12 Stones and it was just awesome. Got stuff

signed. They were really, really cool. Obviously,

you know, hey. get your stuff signed, say hi,

don't hang around too much. Absolutely love listening

to them in concert. It was just a great overall

experience. The one issue I had with that show

was the fact that at the time, you know, Two

Unknown, I mean, Three Doors Down had been around

for a little while, so the Two and Upcoming bands

were more interested in dealing with their fans.

Three Doors Down just came played their set and

left. That sounds about right. They'd do anything

with the fans or anything like that. It's like,

really? Oh, God. But no, that was an awesome

experience. It was an outdoor show. I absolutely

loved it. Seeing them in concert is just absolutely

great. I've had several opportunities to do so

since then, and sadly, it just stuff didn't line

up. when stars came out i so want to see them

live actually it's funny uh... when stars came

out the uh... they came here and did uh... l

r s fest a local former rock radio station which

sadly uh... went from rock format to talk format

which sucks god uh... but no i i i almost got

to go to uh... l l r s fest and what was happening

there was uh... reality show stuff because uh...

Rock of Love 3 was at LRS Fest and it was Bret

Michaels and Theory of a Dead Man and all these

other bands and everything else and it was like,

oh that's kind of cool so I had a chance to go

see them then and sadly I couldn't. I wanted

to go see them when they're doing now with The

Truth is Tour but I'm not sure when they're actually

coming here to Louisville so I don't know. But

yeah seeing them in concert and it's very rare

for me To like a bit like even though I love

the band It's very rare for me on on any music

I listen to to like concert performances or live

performances. I It just changes too much. I think

yeah, that was a question. I was gonna ask you

Do you like concerts or live music in general?

I like the experience of it. I like you know,

hey, this is this is different but Can't like

like if they released I know several other bands

have done this if they released a live album

like live at What you know live at Radio City

Music Hall or whatever else? I don't know if

I could listen to a theory album that was live

performances, but being there in the moment Yes,

I did like it. I see I've never ever ever been

to a concert of any kind the only live music

I've ever seen is just like local bands at like

a bar or something and OK, that's OK. But I don't

really know any of their music or anything. But

once I hear a group that I really like, so in

this example here, Theory, I like that clean

sound that I get from, well, now digital audio

files. So in order to go to a concert and just

have like, I'm just experiencing the concert.

or just thinking the concert experience is like

going to a movie theater where there's distractions

all around me, there's people who are texting

on their phone, they may be talking, there are

people dipping into their popcorn bucket. I know

that there's just gonna be people there making

lots of noise. If it was just the band and I

was the only one out there listening to them,

I think it would be perfect. But I don't know

that I would enjoy going to a concert. But the

reason I bring that up is I see that they're

actually playing in two different locations here

in Michigan. One of them is like two hours or

actually both locations are like two hours away

I'm in one is actually like 15 minutes from where

I grew up So I was kind of considering maybe

going to that one. Yeah, you need to go If if

the only concert you see is of the band that

made the most impact with a with one song in

your life You need to go see them live. Seriously,

even though I only saw them before they released

Because 2003, it was before Gasoline, before

the sophomore album. So the only songs I've heard

from them live is stuff from the self -titled

album. So you need to go to one of those shows

and report back. I may have to. There's one that's

coming up on May 1st, so in just a couple of

days. I definitely can't go to that one. But

the next one is May 31st, so at the end of the

month. And that one's like 15 minutes from where

I grew up. May have to go to that ones Yeah,

and I did look at some of the the playlist that

they were using They do change up their songs

a little bit from from show to show But not meant

to be was was on all of those playlists. So Hey,

that works. So they may may play that one. Yeah.

Yeah, you need to go to that Tickets, I think

are pretty cheap, too Like they click on this

actually, maybe they're sold out the links gone

Maybe you can call the venue and ask them maybe

it would be a that would be a you know I should

do it. I should look this up right now, but yeah,

no the the concerts Seeing them in concert was

great. It was one of my best concert experiences,

and I mainly went because By 2003 I was sick

of kryptonite and loser damn it. I Crip tonight

God I hate that fucking So my concert experience

was mainly for them and and and 12 stones That's

really all I wanted to see because you know once

you've seen three doors down. That's that's once

is enough But you know theory of a dead man you

you have to go to one of those shows you just

have to so I'm definitely thinking about it considering

it. I'll just have to see if tickets are still

available Yes, so we are going to take another

album break and we'll come back with some more

topics after this. Couple of topics we have to

bring up Those crazy soccer moms that think bitch

came back is anti -god That makes no damn sense

to me whatsoever As long as offensive anti -woman

anti -god anti -family you should be ashamed

of yourselves. Yes exactly and I'll I'll link

this in the post but the The DJ actually is replying

in this post. He's like, wow, that's almost exactly

what one woman said to me. So after I voiced

my opinion on the matter on the air and described

the criticism of playing the song on X, hundreds

of you female Xers jumped up and voiced as much

different opinion. Women who are complaining

about that song are the exact same women that

the band is describing in that song. That is

the general response, which is hilarious. I have

no idea how the song is anti -god or anti -family,

exactly. It's an edgy song and a novelty song

that the band did on purpose. I don't... I...

I don't think anyone is thinking the tune is

the next Stairway to Heaven. Also, this song

is certainly not for a six -year -old or even

a ten -year -old kid. I agree that you should

turn the... Turn the channel if you think it

won't work for you and your family the X isn't

programmed for Disney kids got it Oh, man, and

it goes on and I'll like I said, I'll put this

on the in the post on the on geek cast radio

calm, but it just People like that just pissed

me off because it's like why are you listening

to it in the first place? Right, you know People

know if you listen to a rock radio station, you're

going to get songs like bitch came back And actually

it's funny when I interviewed Dave He said that

it was an idea that popped up out of a out of

an old poem Dave said it was a Canadian poem,

but it's a poem called the cat came back and

And they modified it to fit the situation as

far as that goes. But no, I guess we can speculate

on their future. I think that it's pretty bright

for them. I mean, I can't wait to see what they

do in a couple years for the next album. But

so far, I mean, they haven't done anything to

disappoint or make me say, oh, I'm never listening

to these guys again. So it looks like they come

out with an album about every three years. Yeah,

about that, because they'll go on massive tours

and stuff like that to promote, obviously, the

current. It was 2008 to 2011. Before that, it

was like every three years. So it's not bad.

I mean, that's average. Yeah, their sophomore

album came out two years after, but it looks

like they're sticking to the two, three year

timeframe. Yeah, that's about average. We can't

all be like tool and release an album every ten

years if people love it Just because it's something

they haven't heard in ten years, right? You know

But no, I I always love when they show up and

do different things like with what is potentially

on the Avengers soundtrack During the break we

I was I was looking at their website because

we were still trying to find tickets for Jesse

to go to one of their shows and I noticed that,

hey, we're on the Avengers soundtrack. And it

lists, I believe it's an ACDC cover, Shoot to

Thrill. It lists it on their website as it's

a Marvel produced image. It's an Avengers image.

But yet the iTunes listing does not even list

it. The Wikipedia listing does not even list

it. So I don't know if it's a song that's just

going to be in the movie or what. But yay. Let

me pull up the. Let me pull it up here on Amazon

and see what they list. They show... Yeah, they

don't show it at all, so I have no idea. So let's

talk about theory songs we listen to the most.

For me, I can listen to their entire catalog.

I've done several playthroughs of I think my

best of theory album or my best of theory playlist

has probably got everything in it let me look

let's see my best of playlist has 61 songs 3

.6 hours so you know I love uh... say i'm sorry

and confession off of the self -titled album

i love me and my girl and uh... and since you've

been gone off off gasoline uh... i also love

it actually came off of a special that they've

been two thousand nine they released a bunch

of special editions uh... for the self -titled

album gasoline and scars and superiors uh...

there was a song off this uh... off of the uh...

gasoline special edition called lynchburg lemonade

uh... and i absolutely love that As I've said

before in this episode scars and souvenirs and

the truth is I can listen to those front to back

They're just amazing amazing albums. What about

you? The songs that really stand out with the

one that really stands out is not meant to be

why I torture myself with my failed relationship

I have no idea But that's probably it probably

tops my list Right behind that I would say is

the head above water It has a very similar at

least in my opinion not a very similar sound

to not meant to be The the topic or the idea

of the song is completely different But it has

a at least in my opinion like I said a very similar

sound But outside of that I would say out of

my head bitch came back Nothing could come between

us and I really like the guitar sound and like

to stand down. Yeah Yeah, that was always a really

unique unique thing as well. So those are probably

the top songs that stand out, at least in my

opinion. Yep. So we are going to take one final

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with Theory of a Dead Man. Do you have anything

you would like to promote or anything? Nothing

I necessarily want to promote. Most likely just

throw out TFI or other. Yeah. Like I said, I'm

done with school now, graduate next Saturday.

So I do have my professional mic set up. I want

to try and get back into podcasting. We'll see

what happens. Awesome. We hope you enjoyed this

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countdown for our top 10 favorite artist or bands

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see where Theory ranks on my list, because I'm

sure it's gonna be up there. For now, I am TFG1

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